Latest / Hydroponics Daily / Fruit Attraction 2025: Hydroponics Discoveries and Industry Surprises
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- 0:00Hello there and welcome back to
- 0:02Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host Dr. Russell Sharp, the founder
- 0:09of Utrema Limited and I took a day off this week
- 0:12to go to Fruit Attraction in
- 0:15Madrid and I'm going to give you all the findings
- 0:18relating to hydroponics that I discovered at Fruit
- 0:21Attraction which is one of the premier trade shows
- 0:24for fruit and the fresh produce sector
- 0:27in general now you might be thinking fruit logistica have
- 0:31you ever heard of that that's a trade show in berlin in february and
- 0:34that was normally considered to be the premier fresh produce
- 0:37trade show worldwide but fruit attraction's been
- 0:40going for about five years now in madrid and it
- 0:43has one distinct advantage over the fruit logistica
- 0:47trade show in that it's not in eastern europe in
- 0:50the middle of winter which it's nice
- 0:53once you're in there but getting in and out of the show and moving
- 0:57around getting to berlin and back again it's hard work
- 1:00in february whereas madrid i was able to get there and back in a day no hotels
- 1:05required i did have i do have to admit that i paid extra for business class
- 1:11fast track in the airport and pod parking where i got a it's nothing to do with podcasts i got a.
- 1:17Little automated pod parked for me so
- 1:20i saved a lot of time that way so i didn't need to stay over so
- 1:23i was able to get to madrid and back in a day and still
- 1:26spent a good six hours at this trade show looking for hydroponics and
- 1:30anything to do with hydroponics so really good
- 1:33it's grown massively it's only been going for about five years but it's now the
- 1:36size of say fruit logistica was say seven years
- 1:39ago so there was loads and loads of companies there and companies
- 1:43from all around the world there were three halls for spanish growers and spanish
- 1:48technology probably about three or four halls for other europeans and then a
- 1:52hall for america both north and south and central and then a hall for asia and
- 1:59and i think that was combined with the african hall as well.
- 2:02So very interesting. Key takeaway you find from going to these two shows,
- 2:07these fruit shows, is that the people who've moved fruit from A to B are the
- 2:13people who are making serious, serious dollar.
- 2:17Their stands were massive. They had the best bars.
- 2:21They had Spanish hams on free to anyone coming onto their stand. They had paella.
- 2:29They had free giveaways. they had massive screens
- 2:34to display their technologies and things like this that the
- 2:37people who move fruit from a to b the distributors
- 2:40they were the guys making a serious money what was disheartening from somebody
- 2:44who makes specialist fertilizers biostimulants and biopesticides was that the
- 2:48biostimulant companies were the little companies around the edge of the show
- 2:53floor and it's disheartening because these companies have been going for a number of years now,
- 2:59biosteamilants are nothing new, and they're just not growing,
- 3:02and they're not seeing the, everyone says, you know, biosteamilants is worth
- 3:06this much, it's going to be worth so many billion in so many years.
- 3:09These companies are still the same size, and they're still the same crappy stands
- 3:14that they had, you know, seven years ago.
- 3:16So they're not invested in new massive stands.
- 3:19There were some really big stands by some fertilizer companies,
- 3:23and even some vegan fertilizer companies.
- 3:26That are basically just selling microbial products and nothing else.
- 3:30Not sure whether that is because the Spanish market is massive for microbial
- 3:36products or because they've had a big lump of investment.
- 3:39Probably the latter. There were some really big, massive, really impressive
- 3:43vegan fertilizer companies.
- 3:46I mean, the problem with vegan fertilizers, you can't even use animal waste.
- 3:49You can't use like chicken, I don't know if you can use chicken manure.
- 3:54You certainly can't use blood bone meal and things like this so which
- 3:58are normally organic fertilizers so that was really interesting to see
- 4:00there were some really big organic and
- 4:03vegan fertilizer stands not many fertilizer stands though really really interesting
- 4:10there's lots of lots of packing equipment there was a few hydroponic companies
- 4:14but fertilizers was few and far between they're obviously the big pesticide
- 4:18companies like Syngenta, Bayer, BASF,
- 4:22Cortiva were there showing their wares.
- 4:25There were a few microbial companies, some really interesting microbial companies,
- 4:29some that were, as I say, at Utrema, we only have a couple of living products,
- 4:33but there was one, I'm looking to develop one microbial product for a very,
- 4:38very specific niche use, not in hydroponics, and there was a company there that
- 4:43can basically take your bacteria once you isolate it and grow it up.
- 4:48So that's something i'm looking at so i'm interested in that and i was talking to a company that does.
- 4:55Granular fertilizers because we talked in the past about how the likes of osmocotes
- 4:59and miracle grow sell those plastic coated granules and they're supposed to
- 5:04be controlled release and they and i said this is bad because they releases
- 5:08microplastic it's the only time you ever really,
- 5:10willingly throw plastic at your soil i think that's bad and turns out speaking to some of them.
- 5:18There's one granular product I was interested in.
- 5:20He says, oh yeah, we work with ICL. I said, well, why are you working with ICL?
- 5:23I said, oh yeah, because they make Osmocote. I didn't realize this.
- 5:25Maybe I'm stupid, effing stupid Russell, but Osmocote is owned by ICL.
- 5:30These are the guys putting the plastic in the soil. They're also the company
- 5:34that, you know, talked about funding the Gadza 585 in Palestine,
- 5:39burned down the greenhouses.
- 5:40And yeah, there's loads of crap on ICL. You know, former CEO got resigned for
- 5:45various reasons as well.
- 5:46I'm not going to go into, I'm not going to pick a fight with ICL anymore. I don't need it.
- 5:51What else was I looking at? That was interesting.
- 5:54There wasn't much on novel crops. There were very few novel crops coming in.
- 5:58There was a few microgreen companies, not as many as i would expect there
- 6:02was very few hydroponic companies a
- 6:06lot of the chinese off the shelf hydroponic systems
- 6:09the there weren't the likes of
- 6:12say lettuce grow or any of the systems there was no lighting companies there
- 6:19at all so it was really just focused on field-grown fruit there wasn't a focus
- 6:25on tomatoes and cucumbers i guess that's a different show there's a show down in Almeria for that.
- 6:31So it was really just like your
- 6:34bananas, your oranges, but then also weird things like globe artichokes.
- 6:38And yeah, it was a bit of a strange show really.
- 6:42I guess, you know, it attracts a certain type of exhibitor and some of them
- 6:48that if your competitors aren't there, you're not going to go there.
- 6:53So there's opportunities there for people who might not normally exhibit or even go to the show.
- 6:59And there was even a company that had a blockchain coin, a Bitcoin type thing. It was called GoPyro.
- 7:07Global coins and something like this that was carbon neutral or actually sucked
- 7:11in carbon when you bought it i'm not sure how that worked but yeah bizarre sort
- 7:17of companies that were there,
- 7:18and there was a couple of microalgae biostimulant companies and they were showing
- 7:23their products very popular in spain that because they don't have the ascophyllum
- 7:27seaweed extract to produce,
- 7:29seaweed extract so they produce the microalgae product
- 7:32and they've got lots of sun for growing them bioreactors one
- 7:36of them by a rise and biotech unfortunately also
- 7:39sell a cobalt product which is not
- 7:41cool and we talked in the past about cobalt how it's carcinogenic fertilizer
- 7:45so those guys need to book their ideas up and stop selling cobalt so you could
- 7:49buy a rise and that would be fantastic stop poisoning the farmers with carcinogenic
- 7:53cobalt i really like speaking to the growers from sort of central asia so like
- 8:00um or western asia as you call it like georgia.
- 8:05And just like that there was a georgian stand that was
- 8:07just loads of blueberries blueberries are really massive massive crop in ukraine
- 8:12georgia place like that and they had like blueberry juice and that you could
- 8:17try on the stand which i thought was really nice loads of stands had bars with
- 8:21beer and coke and things like that but blueberry juice well you I've never had blueberry juice.
- 8:25They had blueberry liqueur, but they weren't giving that away,
- 8:28unfortunately. It did look pretty nice. It wasn't blue. It was white.
- 8:32There was, what was really disappointing from a British perspective was that
- 8:36there were hundreds of Germans, hundreds of Dutch, hundreds of Argentinian,
- 8:41Italian stands, and there were three British stands.
- 8:45No, actually, two and a half on the official stand, and then maybe two on the
- 8:50fruit and apple production. So maybe I'd say probably like definitely less than
- 8:5410 stands from the UK, which is pathetic and really disheartening.
- 8:58And like even North Macedonia had a biggest stand.
- 9:03Bananas that have been dipped in wax as well i
- 9:06have no idea why the the top of the banana on the
- 9:09hand as you were of the banana is that the word technical word dipped
- 9:12in wax no idea was that i saw some cabbages and some turnips
- 9:15in glass jars as if they were the crown jewels i
- 9:19thought that was quite good you know like you know you put like a
- 9:21protection around it and say do not enter and you know warning lasers
- 9:24and then there's a cabbage inside the glass you
- 9:27know it lit up and stuff that's cool
- 9:30how you sort of frame that there was a number of chefs that
- 9:34were doing recipes on certain stands with the
- 9:37produce obviously all in spanish so i couldn't understand what
- 9:40the likes of daniel del toro you know
- 9:43some ginger chef was was saying a couple
- 9:45of lady chefs as well lots of banana stands one
- 9:49stand had a little rotten bananas on their stand no idea
- 9:51what that was about didn't want to stop and find out there was
- 9:54a it was a good stand by enza the
- 9:58seed company they had hydroponics and
- 10:01like little kettles and copper pipes coming through the
- 10:04the hydroponic system that was really cool like
- 10:07glass kettles and then like crops that you could walk on the crop and it was
- 10:11like a glass above it like a bridge that was quite funky what else did i see
- 10:17let's just have a look at my notes lots of plants for sale micro-propagated
- 10:20plants so you could buy like micro-propagated strawberries and kiwi plants things like this.
- 10:26Fair few say bacterial products just looking through my.
- 10:29Notes here a nano fertilizer company one company
- 10:32that's from turkey that was doing copper fertilizers and
- 10:36the front of their banner said be safe with copper but you
- 10:39can't really be safe with copper because it's a toxic heavy metal so the
- 10:42best best way to do it without that is to not use copper based products
- 10:45if you do one thing from this podcast it's avoid
- 10:48copper based products there are a number of them in hydroponics avoid them
- 10:51they're going to do you no good and they're just going to poison your plants your soil
- 10:54your own media and your customers the santander
- 10:58stand stand the bank they had tony
- 11:01nadal giving a talk tony nadal if you don't know
- 11:04is the uncle of rafa nadal and
- 11:07he coached rafa nadal to be arguably the
- 11:10best tennis player in the world and i just
- 11:13had a massive crowd imagine i couldn't think of that in another
- 11:16in england of a trade show where you would have
- 11:19the uncle of the famous sportsman and he would attract a
- 11:22massive crowd only only in
- 11:25spain but mind you only in america would you have
- 11:28a massive audience for a university college sports
- 11:31person footballer in the uk if you
- 11:34were if you played football soccer or
- 11:38any sports any sport at all for your university you wouldn't you would not be
- 11:43famous and not even your friends would acknowledge you were something special
- 11:47so that's something you know the difference between sports people in spain us
- 11:52and the uk yeah i just found out that that coin is the cool earth coin.
- 11:58Let's say, is a currency created by Cool Earth CO2 that represents CO2 reduction
- 12:03through regenerative agriculture.
- 12:04That's where we're getting our CO2 reduction from. We're buying carbon credits, aren't we?
- 12:08For every fruit pack purchased under this model, the consumer receives one CEC,
- 12:14equivalent to 50 kilograms of CO2, removed from the environment.
- 12:18Additionally, you can collect 20 CECs. You'll receive a certified carbon credit.
- 12:23With this credit, You can either contribute to reducing CO2 emissions on the
- 12:27planet and become zero or redeem it for money. The choice is yours.
- 12:33That's interesting. There was an interesting little handheld scanner that told
- 12:38you if your fruit was ready for harvest.
- 12:40So you literally like just shoved it onto a fruit and it measures bricks,
- 12:44firmness, starch in real time and tells you if it's ready for harvest.
- 12:49Because one of the issues with fruit harvesting is to find out if a fruit is
- 12:53ready to is ripe you need to cut it in two. Obviously that's not a very good idea.
- 12:57There were grapes that.