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Will Trump TACO on Terror Thursday? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas · DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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  Hey there, this is Deep Program with Ted Rall
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  and Jamarl Thomas for Wednesday, October 14,
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  2026. Thank you so much for joining us. We have
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  a full two -hour show today, so we go all the
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  way from 9 a .m. until 11 a .m. So please like,
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  follow, and share. You know the rest. Here's
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  what we've got for you this morning. We have
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  Donald Trump just found out that the guy he wants
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  to execute on live television on the Internet
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  is in a wheelchair um we'll talk about that he
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  didn't know and so that's making him reconsider
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  because as the new york times says he is very
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  concerned about optics i'm like okay how okay
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  my question i'm previewing my question my pre
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  my question is If you don't even know something
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  as basic as the fact that the guy was shot in
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  the ass and is now sitting in a wheelchair since
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  2009, I don't think you know enough about him
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  to sign off on killing him. That's what I think.
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  If you don't know anything about someone, it's
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  like I met this British reporter in Afghanistan,
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  and he was like, you know, if you Americans can't
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  identify three cities in a country, you shouldn't
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  be allowed to bomb it. And I said, we wouldn't
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  be able to bomb anyone. We wouldn't be able to
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  bomb Canada then under those rules. But I still
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  think it's a good rule. Anyway, we'll get into
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  that. We'll get into it. We'll do it right after
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  I preview everything here. Also, Cornell has
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  suspended all frat parties. So I know this affects
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  your plans for the rest of the year tomorrow
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  and mine. I don't know how I'm going to reschedule
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  my party plans, but that's a hard hitting. Cornell
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  University, taking rape seriously and rape culture
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  seriously. No frat parties. Sorority, no word
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  on sorority parties. I guess those are go. That's
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  totally it. Yeah, maybe they can like rape a
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  dude. Like, hey, free dick upstairs. A total
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  Jamaral story that I put in just for you. Scientists
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  say it might be time to move. There are apparently
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  super -Earths that might be even more habitable
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  than the Earth, with thicker atmospheres, better
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  climates, better magnetic shields. So maybe it's
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  time to pack up and go. The Houthis are kicking
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  the Saudis' asses. We'll talk about that. The
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  Houthis are kicking the Saudis' asses six ways
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  till Sunday. Not only is the airport closed now,
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  the oil facilities are under threat in Daran.
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  Even so, the Saudis think it's a good idea to
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  strike back at Sanaa. That's not turning out
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  to be true. Also, there was a false alarm, a
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  false hijack code in Germany. caused the Nuremberg
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  airport to get shut down. And, you know, I have
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  questions about how this bodes about AI and,
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  you know, when you have more and more autonomous
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  systems that are going to be triggering things
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  like this. I mean, Germany almost went to DEFCON
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  4 over this. And one year after the Gaza, quote
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  unquote, ceasefire scare quotes intentional,
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  residents say that. Basically, nothing's happened.
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  There's been no reconstruction. Israelis are
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  still bombing them every single day. The war
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  never ended. 65 % of the population still lives
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  in tents. And last but not least, especially
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  for us, Germany's Nord Stream 2 pipeline sabotage
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  trial is underway. And we'll talk about that.
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  So a lot to talk about. Oh, and we have a friend
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  of the show. uh laith fidel uh political analyst
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  and uh war correspondent will be uh calling in
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  live from uh israeli occupied lebanon so that's
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  cool lake maroof i'm a roof sorry sorry differently
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  yeah and he's in beirut i believe okay okay he'll
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  be in beirut okay thank you Cool. So, yeah, I
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  mean, the situation in Beirut, I mean, in Lebanon
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  definitely needs to be updated. So that is cool.
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  Looking forward to that for sure. All right.
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  So I guess we want to talk about the executions
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  first, right? Yeah, let's start there. Let's
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  start there. You made the point of saying that
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  if a person doesn't know something about them,
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  that the person shouldn't necessarily be involved
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  in killing the person. I don't know why the wheelchair
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  would matter. I think it's kind of. Not racist,
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  but what is the word? Ableist? Ableist, yes.
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  I think it's very ableist to say you can't shoot
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  a man in a wheelchair. Just to watch him die.
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  Right. I'm trying to say the wheelchair shouldn't
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  matter. It's very ableist to say that the person
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  shouldn't be able to do this. It's like if it
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  was like a blind guy that, a blind mass murderer
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  would be an event. Right? Right. Like, whoa,
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  you've... move the needle for blind people in
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  committing mass murder. Yeah, you can't turn
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  around and say, well, we can't shoot the guy
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  because he's in a wheelchair. Just because a
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  man's visually impaired doesn't mean he shouldn't
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  be able to go on a shooting spree at a public
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  school. Right. If you're going to kill him, you've
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  got to kill him. It is what it is. Also, they
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  do know something about him. They know that he
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  killed a bunch of people at the military base.
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  Whether he's in a wheelchair or not is secondary
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  to that. It's like saying, well, Hitler kept
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  the trains running. And it's like, yeah, but
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  the genocide thing matters more, right? It doesn't
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  matter about the trains. It's the genocide. It's
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  kind of that. Obviously, you've never waited
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  hours for a train that never came. Fair enough.
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  I'm just saying the relevant part to this is
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  the number of people that he killed, less about
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  the fact he's in a wheelchair. And if you're
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  going to kill a man. then him being in a wheelchair
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  shouldn't matter i mean and for the and for the
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  record he ended up in that wheelchair in the
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  process of killing people right like the cops
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  responded and shot him you know while he was
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  shooting people yeah right right he didn't roll
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  in there and open fire do you think they're going
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  to really do this i mean again is beginning to
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  say like look um i told trent to write the headline
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  like will trump taco again um it it feels like
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  he's gonna crap out right i mean it really seems
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  and i mean to me look this raises it's absurd
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  the whole thing is outlandish and absurd um and
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  and the idea of how they're like why why'd they
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  choose him doing it live stream you know why
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  does it matter like you said that he's in a wheelchair
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  because it'll look like oh It'll look sad. Well,
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  yeah, it'll look sad because you're killing it,
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  dude. And yes, it will look a little more sad
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  when you either are pulling him out of a wheelchair
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  to strap him up to a pole or just shooting him
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  in the chair either way. I get the optics, I
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  mean, for sure. But to me, this raises a lot
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  of questions. Can you hear me, Ted? Okay, I think
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  Ted is frozen. Or is it me frozen? I can't tell.
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  It's you. I don't know which one of us is frozen.
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  It's you. Yeah. Thank you. There, you're back.
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  But I mean, I don't see how you can have a president
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  who has the power of life and death over millions
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  of people to be so fucking ignorant and stupid
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  that he doesn't know something as basic as this,
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  you know, in terms of like the status of the,
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  I mean, he wasn't briefed on this guy. He wasn't
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  said, you know, he wasn't told like Nadal Hassan.
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  Okay, so this is the story. He killed 13 people.
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  He entered 30 more. okay we don't we know those
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  things okay it's his job to know those things
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  it's our job too but i mean it's really his job
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  to know it and he's better paid than we are um
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  you know i mean it's just i don't know it's just
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  shouldn't he know that shouldn't he have known
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  that yeah of course i mean do you think hexup
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  threw this out without telling donald trump that
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  he was going to execute him on live stream thank
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  you That's the that is exactly the most important.
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  I mean, seriously, like the outlandishness of
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  it is is hilarious and we can make jokes about
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  it all day long. But the no, I mean, I think
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  that's the interesting thing. I think what we're
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  witnessing here is an administrative style that
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  reminds me of when you when you read about Hitler's
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  administration style, take Hitler's politics
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  out of it. Hitler was kind of a lazy guy and
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  he didn't really he wasn't a good administrator.
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  He slept late. stayed up until 3 in the morning
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  and often wouldn't drag his ass out of bed until
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  11 in the morning. And he had the lifestyle of
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  an artist, basically. And one of the ways that
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  he kind of dealt with that is he created a management
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  style called working toward the Fuhrer. So in
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  other words, he encouraged everybody in his administration
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  to compete against each other. for his favor
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  like you guys come up with the ideas you know
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  what i'm into you know my bag you know my jam
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  you do your thing and like you know probably
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  it'll be okay because you know we know each other
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  and if you're and if you're wrong in the middle
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  of the night i'll drag you out of bed uh from
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  your gay lover and shoot you in you know in the
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  night of the long knives but if i'm right yeah
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  it'll be fine until it's not right and yeah it
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  was called they called it in germany working
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  your way toward the furor And I think that's
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  what Hegseth did here. I think Hegseth didn't
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  check in with anyone. You know, Trump is basically
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  lazy. He doesn't he doesn't he doesn't want to
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  know all the details. He's not a micromanager
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  like Jimmy Carter or Lyndon Johnson. He's like
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  one of those guys that just fucking do it. You
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  know, I'm busy with executive time right now
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  in the Oval Office. I don't have any. Do it.
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  And then it's like, wait, you did what? you know
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  we've had that boss right you have carte blanche
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  wait you what so i mean you know carte blanche
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  is carte blanche carte blanche is really truly
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  do whatever you want um and you know when bosses
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  say that they don't really mean it they expect
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  you to read their mind and i think you know the
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  problem with hegseth is he's not really a bright
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  guy and so you know i can't imagine i mean If
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  I were buddies with Hegseth, I would have been
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  like, come on, Pete. Like, you know, Trump, it's
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  all about optics. He's not going to like the
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  wheelchair thing. I've mentioned the wheelchair
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  thing here a bunch of times, right? I was like,
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  that's a big component of it because it's all
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  about optics. You're going to shoot a dude, you
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  know, for the first time in public, right? On
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  the internet. The first time in 90 years. And
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  last time, last time it went really badly in
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  Kentucky when you guys basically legally lynched
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  a black dude and the guy who hung him was drunk.
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  And it was so bad that even without the Internet,
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  the newspaper guys like wrote up how embarrassing
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  it was and they didn't do it anymore. So, yeah,
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  you've got to be and you just had this, you know,
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  fiasco in Tennessee that was only wasn't on the
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  Internet, but it was witnessed by enough people
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  to make it a disaster. I mean, you know, I mean.
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  I think little Petey just basically, he went
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  off, he didn't think it through. He went rogue.
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  I think the odds are Trump is going to taco on
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  this. It didn't seem like Trump did. I mean,
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  it didn't seem like Trump did. I mean, because
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  people when they asked him, he was like, ugh,
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  I don't know. And he's been getting a lot of
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  shit for this, by the way. Apparently a bunch
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  of Republicans are like, this is barbaric. We
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  should kill him, but I don't want to see it.
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  And my thing is like, why don't you want to see
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  it? Like, why are we doing this? You and I are
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  on the same page. We've always wanted to. We
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  believe this should be public. It should be live
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  streamed. If we're going to kill people, and
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  it's going to be done by the state. Yeah. Kill
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  the guy in his wheelchair. Yeah, kill the guy
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  in his wheelchair. On live stream. This is the
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  death penalty. And honestly, it should be, it
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  will be done during the day. According to Pete,
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  little Pete, it's going to be at the same time,
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  one o 'clock in the afternoon as before the shooting
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  same day of the week. Oh, the symbolism is so
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  resonant. Dramatic theatrical. So gay. So gay.
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  And it's like, yeah, it's like, so. All right.
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  I mean, maybe Pete should lead the firing squad
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  himself. I think that'd be good. I assume he
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  knows how to shoot a gun. yeah totally cool um
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  you know and and they should i think it should
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  be you know it should be it should be all school
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  kids should have to watch it down you know pre
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  -k you know head start program everybody everybody's
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  got to watch it i don't know but gotta watch
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  it i don't know how you force people to watch
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  it i just put it on they can close their eyes
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  they want you get it you get an f automatic f
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  in the in that day in that day's class if you
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  don't if you keep your eyes closed shit too wait
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  kids watch this right i mean obviously i mean
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  it's it but the thing is it's it's it's it's
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  fucking ludicrous i mean just this whole like
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  wait i didn't know yeah that's just that's what
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  do you mean you didn't know how do you not consult
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  the president when you're saying we're going
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  to execute somebody live on tv in this very dramatic
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  theatrical way yeah like like like mr president
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  I have an idea. There's something, like at the
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  cabinet meeting, oh, by the way, I need to ask
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  you about something. I mean, it would have only
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  taken like 30 seconds. Like, hey, so what do
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  you think? And wait, is this on YouTube? Or is
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  this just, when he says live stream, he's talking
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  about like C -SPAN or something. Well, he said
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  live stream, so I don't know if it would be.
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  It seems like it would, you and I have had enough
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  problems with YouTube that it seems like it might
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  have to be Rumble only. right or it's like is
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  it so special oh they might have a special government
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  like you know execution .army .mil like streaming
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  website i hope i hope that it doesn't crash the
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  way that the uh health care website crash this
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  is so what if they fuck up you know there was
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  some firing squad thing i think it was in south
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  carolina like a year ago where all the marksmen
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  missed And then they had to go for a second round.
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  Yeah. That's wild. So the guy was alive for like
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  another like minute and a half, two minutes.
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  Oh shit. Oh shit. He's still moving. Shoot him
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  again. Oh, that sucks. Yeah. That sucks. You
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  would think that these guys will be better than
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  that. And maybe it's just the fact that they're
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  taking a life. Like maybe this is hard to do.
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  Shooting people is hard. I mean, I heard an interesting.
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  conversation on the radio where about the death
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  penalty in general it was about the krista pike
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  fiasco and they talked about this um and and
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  one of the questions came in from a listener
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  which was how come we're able to eat euthanized
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  pets like no must no fuss uh every day and how
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  come we it's so hard to kill people and the answer
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  was great the answer was you don't really know
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  what the your cat or your dog is going through
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  when they're lethally injected the truth is that
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  it probably is horrible for them and um i was
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  like yeah that makes sense i mean mammals right
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  i mean mammals are hard mammals die hard unless
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  you chop up their head or whatever well well
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  no there's a difference the the drugs that they're
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  giving them are not drugs to kill people they're
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  drugs that these guys are kind of concocting
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  because they can't get the drugs from the industry
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  meaning when they're euthanizing an animal they're
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  actually using the drugs put the animal to sleep,
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  stop that type of thing. In this case, I don't
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  know what the hell they're using. I don't think
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  they're using the same things. No, I think they,
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  well, I think that the, it's a three drug protocol
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  and like with animals, they, they put them to
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  sleep. Yeah. They, they knock them unconscious
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  first and then they stop their heart. Right.
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  But I think the point is that like, they might
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  be screaming inside when they're, when their
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  heart stops, but like, we don't, we're not going
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  to know because. I don't want to think that.
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  It's a cat or a dog. I've had to put a dog to
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  sleep. I had to put a cat to sleep. And Bo was
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  extremely sick. Like, he was extremely ill. And
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  that was one of the most painful things in my
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  life. Like, it is a painful thing to put an animal
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  down. Vets say that you should absolutely be
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  in there with them when you do it because they're
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  looking around scared and people never want to
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  see it. And he said, it's like, they're always
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  looking for their owner. And that's the most
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  important thing is that they... you know if if
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  you have to do that to your pet you should be
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  there with them yeah i mean they have to go through
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  it it's the least you can do is go through it
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  with them it's true no i think you're right i
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  was not strong enough to do that and i didn't
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  want my wife in there either i wasn't strong
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  enough to do it with my cat but next time when
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  i have to do it to my cat if i have to do it
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  to my cat i would definitely be there for him
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  no i think you're right but that's hard i had
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  never heard that from a vet before yeah You know,
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  it's hard. It's no fun. I mean, you know, I hear
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  that completely. Cats are different. No, I'm
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  teasing. I'm joking. My mom hates cats. She's
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  terrified. She hates cats? She's terrified of
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  them. I have no idea why. There are a lot of
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  people who, yeah, I had a roommate who was, he
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  hated them. He was scared of them. Which I don't
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  get. They can't, they're so small. There's not
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  much they can do, really. Right. Well, they can,
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  they do. they can claw you but i mean honestly
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  a cat can't kill you okay i mean really yeah
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  god can take you out in a fair fight true you
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  know depending on its size but no i don't hate
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  cats i mean i've gotten to like dogs but um f
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  you so says just give the man the electric wheelchair
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  execution and alexander says clovis is immortal
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  Thank you. I appreciate that. And Nick Rivera
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  says we both tacoed out. True. That is true.
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  You don't think he's going to do it? No, we tacoed
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  out, like on our pets. Oh, yeah, we tacoed out.
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  Yeah, we tacoed out. I think Trump's going to
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  taco out. By the way, I don't think he should.
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  I mean, personally, I think it should be in public.
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  But also, you know. I really want America to
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  expose itself as this horrible, outlandish, brutally
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  violent, psychotic country. I really want that.
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  I feel like it's important for us in our psychological
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  development and for our relationship with the
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  world and that people stop taking it seriously.
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  I really want that. First and foremost, when
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  you go to AA, I am an alcoholic. I have no power.
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  First step is admitting you have a problem, right?
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  You admit you have a problem. And Lord knows
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  that admits you have a problem. because that
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  is the world that these guys are talking about.
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  Hexeth is thinking like, we want to show the
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  world how strong we are. And it's like, that's
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  not the message you're sending. The message is
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  that you're fucking crazy and stupid. Yes. And
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  racist. And fucking racist. It's outlandish.
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  That's why I want it. Me too. I'm dying for it.
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  Well, my thing is... And if I'm an adult, you
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  know, they're also concerned about turning him
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  into a martyr. I think that's like a lesser concern.
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  Although, frankly, if I were him, I'd rather
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  die this way than just be put down like a dog
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  in private. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I suppose. I mean,
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  people would ask, why did they kill him? Which
• 20:24
  inevitably brings up the reason why he did what
• 20:27
  he did, which, you know, they may say he's a
• 20:30
  Muslim extremist. Yeah, but how did he get that
• 20:32
  way? Like, what radicalized him? talking radicalized
• 20:36
  yeah right they missed that part um but no i
• 20:40
  i want it for the same reason you want it it's
• 20:42
  not just because i want to see an execution i
• 20:44
  don't even know if i watch it it's i want that
• 20:46
  shit to be exposed i'd watch it because it's
• 20:50
  news and um you know look i watch the isis videos
• 20:53
  if i can watch that i can watch anything i've
• 20:56
  seen people die in afghanistan i mean it's like
• 20:58
  the way i look at it is he has to go through
• 21:00
  it i can watch it you know If that makes sense.
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  Yeah. Let's see if we have any comments. So today,
• 21:09
  unfortunately, producer Robbie West is out, which
• 21:12
  means you're reduced to dealing with me and my
• 21:15
  ability to scroll through the headlines here.
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  But yeah, so when it's like this, seriously,
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  this is very self -serving, but it's much the
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  paid comments stick out. And I'm just definitely
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  going to look at those faster. Yeah, they're
• 21:32
  easier to see. It's really true. Anyway, please,
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  oh, by the way, the list of subscribers is increasing.
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  guys. And I'll put the information up for how
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  to subscribe on YouTube. Anyway, all right. I
• 22:02
  think we can move on from this, right? All right.
• 22:05
  Shall we follow up yesterday's topic about Cornell
• 22:08
  University that we talked about with Michael
• 22:11
  Tracy? So Cornell has decided that amidst the
• 22:16
  explosive backlash over their handling or lack
• 22:20
  of handling of the 2024 gang rape allegation
• 22:23
  at the frat, Cornell has taken the bold and decisive
• 22:27
  measure of taking a cue from... that important
• 22:31
  film from the late 70s, Animal House, and they
• 22:34
  have decided to cancel all frat parties for the
• 22:41
  rest of this year. Just to be clear, that happened
• 22:45
  in 2024. Right. That's true. And they've had
• 22:49
  frat parties for the last two years. Right. But
• 22:54
  sorority parties are go. Other parties are go.
• 22:59
  I mean, just to be clear here, I mean, you know,
• 23:01
  like, well, what am I on about? What I'm on about
• 23:04
  is that frats are toxic. So are sororities. Greek
• 23:07
  life should be banned. Secret societies should
• 23:09
  be banned. Single sex environments that are bathed
• 23:13
  in secrecy, where you're all kind of like in
• 23:17
  this sort of homoerotically bonded network of
• 23:20
  people who swear to keep secrets and have hazing
• 23:24
  rituals that often are sexual in nature. It's
• 23:28
  naturally going to lead to shit like this, you
• 23:31
  know? And so I just think it's like, you know,
• 23:35
  it's the environment that causes this. I don't
• 23:39
  think there's any place for secret societies
• 23:41
  in the United States or in colleges and universities.
• 23:44
  Secret societies are bad. I mean, look at the
• 23:47
  KKK. That was a secret society. No more. So people
• 23:52
  can't choose to collectively come together to
• 23:55
  be in a group. directed in the way that they
• 23:59
  want to direct. Because I would argue religion
• 24:00
  is a secret society of sorts. People go into
• 24:03
  a church. It's not secret. Anybody can join.
• 24:09
  Anybody can walk into religious services, right?
• 24:13
  I mean, I don't think there's any... No, no,
• 24:16
  I accept that. Maybe Scientology is different,
• 24:18
  right? I mean, I don't know. No, I accept that.
• 24:20
  But you don't believe that people can come together
• 24:21
  and join in something that is collective to their
• 24:24
  own interests. So, for example, people want to
• 24:27
  have swingers. Okay, they have... a group of
• 24:30
  people come together to do and pursue carnal
• 24:34
  delight or whatever, but they don't let everybody
• 24:36
  into the group. The group is isolated. Would
• 24:39
  that be considered a secret group? It's a good
• 24:42
  question. I guess the ultimate question is, why
• 24:46
  can't people come together and make a decision
• 24:49
  about stuff that they may be interested in? I'm
• 24:51
  going to roll that back. You're right. Okay,
• 24:53
  they can. I'm wrong about that. I just think
• 24:55
  colleges and universities, though, we have a
• 24:57
  long track record of fraternities. And, you know,
• 25:01
  look, there's been false allegations. We you
• 25:03
  know, there was the Virginia Tech thing, you
• 25:06
  know, was it Virginia Tech or UVA? UVA, I think
• 25:10
  it's one of them. Yeah. One of those Virginia
• 25:12
  schools anyway, where it was like the I forget
• 25:15
  what team it was. Polo or some shit. Anyway,
• 25:19
  the point is these guys were they were falsely
• 25:23
  accused There was a false accusation of gang
• 25:26
  rape at Columbia University in the mid in the
• 25:30
  late 80s It happens, but there's also legit ones,
• 25:34
  right? I don't know. It's just like it seems
• 25:37
  to me like from a college administrators point
• 25:39
  of view frats are a lot of trouble and it's like
• 25:44
  you know and i'm not sure what they benefit i
• 25:46
  mean except like what you're going to give each
• 25:48
  other jobs when you all get older and it's just
• 25:52
  it's why does it have to have a benefit meaning
• 25:56
  it's just people deciding to come together to
• 25:58
  join a particular group for whatever reason i
• 26:00
  find it to be dumb but it doesn't really matter
• 26:02
  if i find it to be dumb it's just what they want
• 26:05
  to do they think they get something out of it
• 26:07
  whether it's fraternity whether it's brotherhood
• 26:09
  whether it's hey these are my friends and my
• 26:11
  friend i think it's silly but it's not It doesn't
• 26:15
  really matter if I think it's silly. The catch
• 26:17
  becomes, why shouldn't people be able to do that?
• 26:21
  I mean, look, there are all sorts of things where
• 26:22
  people get into trouble with driving, for God's
• 26:24
  sake. How many accidents? Oh, right. It's the
• 26:26
  Duke lacrosse case. Thank you. Daniel and P .W.
• 26:30
  Walker. North Carolina. Look, I guess my point
• 26:33
  is, pretty much anything that we do, Catholic
• 26:38
  Church, the number of kids that were effectively
• 26:40
  raped at the Catholic Church, horrendous. And
• 26:44
  yet it still exists. And so it's like every few
• 26:48
  years a threat shows up with either a fake rape
• 26:52
  allegation or real rape allegation. Well, I guess
• 26:55
  allegations. You get my point? Yeah. That's going
• 26:59
  to happen in general. Like just being in society.
• 27:04
  Rape. I don't know how many gang rapes. Okay,
• 27:06
  rapes, sure. Rape is an incredibly common crime.
• 27:09
  But gang rapes? That's not such a common crime.
• 27:15
  No, it's not such a common crime, but it does
• 27:17
  happen. And I guess, look, my argument is not
• 27:19
  entirely for frets, even though I guess it sounds
• 27:21
  like it is. It's trying to make the point of
• 27:23
  saying people have freedom of association. Yeah.
• 27:27
  If they want to come together for some kind of
• 27:29
  group, for some kind of ends, they can do so.
• 27:31
  And yeah, frets are toxic. I accept that. I've
• 27:37
  never been in a fret. So if somebody is out there
• 27:39
  saying, hey, every guy. you know how it is you
• 27:42
  meet frat bros and you know they're douchebags
• 27:45
  to enjoy i was offered i was offered to be involved
• 27:49
  in a gangbang by a guy who was in a frat i thought
• 27:52
  it was gross but again you guys yeah even assuming
• 27:59
  even assuming total consent right right it's
• 28:03
  like who's number six but if that's if that's
• 28:10
  your life do you right And in college, if that's
• 28:13
  what you want to experience, do you, providing
• 28:14
  everybody's willing for the thing. I guess my
• 28:17
  thing is, yes, it will be part of a risk of having
• 28:20
  a frat in existence or having a sorority in existence,
• 28:25
  even though I don't know what that would look
• 28:26
  like. But that's not necessarily an argument
• 28:28
  that they should be removed, destroyed. I don't
• 28:32
  know. I'm not extreme with it. These same colleges
• 28:35
  got rid of Jewish Voice for Peace. you know what
• 28:41
  i mean i mean it's like jewish voice for peace
• 28:46
  you got rid of of a peace group by and for jews
• 28:52
  against killing palestinians you got rid of that
• 28:55
  you're like we don't have any place for that
• 28:57
  no that's dangerous that shit you know we don't
• 29:00
  we can't have that but we gotta have our frats
• 29:02
  we gotta have that I mean, just so much that
• 29:09
  you can live together and drink in the sweet
• 29:14
  smell of dirty socks and testosterone. I know,
• 29:17
  but they apparently like that nonsense. In their
• 29:21
  minds, it may make them think, hey, I'm more
• 29:23
  of a man. I am somehow connected. I'm somehow
• 29:25
  whatever their feelings are about. And it's professional
• 29:29
  connections for the future. yes but i agree with
• 29:34
  you i'm a beta theta pi dude from way back oh
• 29:37
  me too yeah you want a job man yeah it was it's
• 29:43
  and the thing is to be clear i mean there's a
• 29:45
  cliche that this is like all it's all you know
• 29:48
  white bros and that's most of it for sure but
• 29:51
  you know it's not exclusive i mean there's a
• 29:53
  there's a there's a jewish frat at columbia i
• 29:57
  don't know if it still exists but you know there's
• 29:58
  the jack and jill society which is for you know
• 30:01
  upscale professional blacks i um i happen i happened
• 30:04
  upon one of their gatherings at martha's vineyard
• 30:06
  once and you know you see like wow there's like
• 30:09
  all these people driving these like incredibly
• 30:11
  nice cars and they're all dressed to the nines
• 30:14
  and it's like what's going on it's like oh it's
• 30:16
  jack and jill and um it's like wait what's that
• 30:19
  and i remember thinking like you know it's in
• 30:21
  the one hand i was like i get but on the other
• 30:23
  hand it seems really snotty like uh like you
• 30:26
  know us rich black people we don't want to mix
• 30:28
  with anyone else i don't know i hate that kind
• 30:30
  of yeah i mean i don't know people are people
• 30:36
  they form into groups and collectives i i look
• 30:42
  i gotta be honest i never understood threats
• 30:43
  um i never saw why people wanted to subject themselves
• 30:49
  to the things that they subject themselves to
• 30:51
  in order to get into the frets it just never
• 30:53
  made sense to me but i knew people many of them
• 30:56
  were very cool Sure. Yeah, I don't know. But
• 31:01
  my first impetus wouldn't be to get rid of it.
• 31:05
  And by the way, Cornell already suspended the
• 31:09
  frat that was involved, right? This does bring
• 31:12
  up the issue of collective punishment. I mean,
• 31:14
  the other frats are like, hey, we don't have
• 31:17
  any ladies who've charged us with gang rape,
• 31:20
  right? Like, we had nice, civilized, drunken
• 31:23
  parties with a minimum of ketamine and a minimum
• 31:26
  of rape. And just the bare acceptable amount
• 31:30
  of rape. And also, you already closed the frat
• 31:37
  involved here, right? That building's been closed
• 31:40
  for two years. And it's been two years. Yeah,
• 31:43
  it's been two years. They've been having frats
• 31:44
  for two years doing what frats do for two years,
• 31:46
  and now you're shutting it down. i mean as far
• 31:49
  as we know there's been no subsequent gang rape
• 31:51
  allegations at any other frat at cornell i mean
• 31:53
  so like why this is all just it's ridiculous
• 31:56
  you know middle management um you know typical
• 32:00
  college cowardly college administrators like
• 32:04
  oh my god like oh there's about do you see there's
• 32:06
  a nut you know they get these administrators
• 32:08
  they get like a stapled summary of all the media
• 32:11
  coverage about their institutions right like
• 32:14
  if you i i worked at a bank where it was like
• 32:16
  that and it's like every you know Someone would
• 32:18
  look for every mention of the Industrial Bank
• 32:20
  of Japan in every news outlet, and then we'd
• 32:24
  get it every morning. It'd be like, oh, shit,
• 32:26
  they found out about that guy who embezzled $10
• 32:29
  million. Oh, fuck, should we do something about
• 32:32
  it? That's what they're like, right? So they're
• 32:34
  like, oh, fuck, we're getting hammered in the
• 32:37
  press over this rape thing. We got to be perceived
• 32:41
  as, we don't need to do anything. We need to
• 32:43
  be perceived as doing something. Right. Yeah.
• 32:47
  Because we can't do anything about it. We can't
• 32:49
  stop people from, we can eliminate every frat.
• 32:52
  You're not going to eliminate rape. You're not
• 32:54
  going to eliminate illegal drug use. You're not
• 32:57
  going to eliminate people slipping Mickeys into
• 33:00
  people's drinks. That behavior will go on. I
• 33:03
  mean, so all you can do is be perceived as like,
• 33:06
  look, we did something. So when your alums call
• 33:09
  and say, what the fuck? Why am I donating millions
• 33:12
  of dollars to you? You can say something. Yeah.
• 33:16
  I mean, they want to be perceived as being strong
• 33:17
  on the issue, right? As opposed to like, but
• 33:23
  strength is not always the best response. I know
• 33:27
  why. It's because they want to be able to defend,
• 33:29
  you know, our actions. We did this in order to
• 33:32
  deal with this particular issue. But is there
• 33:34
  a better way to do that? I mean, threats have
• 33:36
  been going on for the last two years. And what
• 33:38
  is he trying to say? That they're rape factories
• 33:41
  and rape factories have been going on for two
• 33:43
  years. And so now we're taking a stand two years
• 33:45
  later. That just feels dumb. And you're punishing,
• 33:49
  as you point out, everybody for something that
• 33:51
  a specific group ultimately did. Yeah, that's
• 33:54
  wrong. That's weird. Yeah, that's not right.
• 33:56
  So unless they're trying to make the argument
• 33:59
  that all frets are problematic based on the gang
• 34:03
  rape at one fret, this seems to be a weird argument
• 34:06
  to make. And we know that's not true, right?
• 34:09
  Like certain frets at every school, right? There's
• 34:12
  always that one fret that's really wild and crazy
• 34:15
  and has that, they're the animal house rat. And
• 34:18
  then there's the other boring ones, right? I
• 34:20
  mean, there's the ones that are like more dominated
• 34:23
  by like engineering students who are like grinds
• 34:25
  and they spend all their time at the library.
• 34:28
  I mean, each frat has its own culture. Yeah,
• 34:31
  they're different. So no, I agree. It's just,
• 34:34
  yeah, that sucks for the frats. Yeah. That sucks
• 34:39
  for the frats. Don't worry, gang rapists. There's
• 34:41
  always the sorority parties. it's like it's just
• 34:47
  being right guy it's like it's just such a hilarious
• 34:51
  it's such a hilarious headline though like all
• 34:53
  frat parties are off it's like really this is
• 34:56
  national news national news okay well all right
• 35:02
  um we're trying to let's leave the uh middle
• 35:04
  east for uh for late uh all right what do you
• 35:08
  want to talk about oh should we we should do
• 35:10
  nordstrom Oh, by the way, did you see? Oh, dude,
• 35:14
  this is the funniest thing in the world. Did
• 35:15
  you see that woman? I think she was running for
• 35:19
  Texas. That clip where she's she seems to be
• 35:24
  completely drunk, like it completely inebriated
• 35:27
  a Democrat. Can we can we find it? If we find
• 35:30
  it. Yeah, I have it. And send me the send me
• 35:34
  the link and then I'll put it up. OK, this I
• 35:37
  don't even. i don't know maybe you know who this
• 35:42
  woman is but she's apparently running i think
• 35:44
  she's running in texas um and this will make
• 35:50
  your day all right so it is i just pasted it
• 35:54
  it's there now okay all right all right now just
• 36:00
  for the setup she's in a an interview and in
• 36:06
  this interview she's talking to a news woman
• 36:07
  and the news woman is basically asking her questions
• 36:10
  related to the campaign this is uh the clip okay
• 36:16
  here we go i'm i'm pulling this up oh god yeah
• 36:22
  it always helps to have a producer yeah this
• 36:24
  is like people who are like don't appreciate
• 36:26
  robbie let me just say this is like well now
• 36:29
  you appreciate rob yeah yeah we need him all
• 36:36
  right hold on all right let me have it queued
• 36:40
  up and then i'm gonna Put it up. Okay. I played
• 36:49
  this earlier and was laughing my ass off. Oh,
• 36:52
  good. I can always use a good laugh. Although
• 36:54
  we've already had some good laughs. All right.
• 36:55
  Here we go. All right. All right. We ready? All
• 36:58
  right. Here we go. And that's what I have to
• 37:03
  say about that. Okay. And our last question of
• 37:06
  the night is, if elected, what is one decision
• 37:09
  that you expect to make that may be unpopular
• 37:12
  with some voters, but you believe ultimately
• 37:14
  would be in the best interest of Fayette County?
• 37:17
  I wouldn't raise your taxes. What is the one
• 37:23
  decision that I would make? Repeat that again.
• 37:30
  What is the one decision that I would make that
• 37:31
  might not be popular? Right. That may be unpopular
• 37:34
  with some voters. But is in the best interest
• 37:37
  of the county. Firing all Republicans. I wouldn't
• 37:44
  let them. I mean, I don't even talk to them.
• 37:48
  I don't like them. I mean, they voted against
• 37:51
  our own state representative voted against her
• 37:55
  own party. I mean, what do you want me to say?
• 38:01
  I don't like being around them. I mean. Y 'all
• 38:04
  did this to us. You all voted for us. You made
• 38:07
  this happen. This ice coming into our communities,
• 38:12
  stealing people's jobs. I mean, I've been threatened
• 38:19
  so many times to my face by MAGA. We'll call
• 38:26
  them because there's Republicans. We'll call
• 38:28
  them. Who actually get it. You know, there are
• 38:33
  good Republicans out there. But then there's
• 38:36
  these men who are just racist and aren't very
• 38:42
  intelligent at all. They call you names. They
• 38:45
  don't share a nephew trying to blow my head off.
• 38:50
  But, you know, what are you going to do? Well,
• 38:53
  that brings us to your opportunity to say just
• 38:57
  a few last words to the voters. Only a few last
• 39:01
  words. We have guns, too. All right. The general
• 39:09
  election is November 3rd. Early voting began
• 39:12
  October 6th. You can vote Monday through Friday
• 39:14
  from 8 .30 a .m. to 4 p .m. at the Ferret County
• 39:18
  Courthouse. Remember to bring to the courthouse
• 39:21
  with you when voting an acceptable government
• 39:24
  issue. Yeah, that happened on air. Well, she
• 39:29
  was obviously impaired, right, in some way. I
• 39:33
  mean, so she's drunk or she's stoned or, or maybe,
• 39:36
  you know, I mean, there are people who get like,
• 39:38
  okay, I'm going to say there are, to be fair,
• 39:40
  people who get like adverse reactions to medicines,
• 39:43
  you know, like they have a cold medicine interacts
• 39:47
  with something else. Ambien was so rough at 12.
• 39:51
  Yeah. Don't forget George H .W. Bush when he
• 39:56
  puked on the Japanese prime minister. Oh, that's
• 40:00
  gross. And he blamed, I forget what he blamed,
• 40:04
  but he blamed a drug that he was on. Probably
• 40:06
  true. I mean, travel makes your stomach do funky
• 40:09
  things, right? I mean, campaign can release a
• 40:11
  statement saying that she was on Benadryl or
• 40:13
  something like that. That's what they said about
• 40:15
  Joe Biden, right? At the debate. Well, he was
• 40:16
  on, you know, medication. He had a cold. He had
• 40:20
  a cold. For about five years, he had a cold.
• 40:24
  That is insane. That is insane. That's America.
• 40:28
  By the way, she's got my vote. If I lived in
• 40:30
  her district, I would totally vote for her. I
• 40:32
  love her to death. She's the best. I love her
• 40:35
  to death. She's awesome. She's so cool. She's
• 40:38
  like, they might blow your head off. Whatever.
• 40:43
  What do you do? What do you do? Fight all the
• 40:47
  Republicans. She said, I would fight all the
• 40:50
  Republicans. She said, I don't like them. i don't
• 40:53
  even know what's so funny is she probably has
• 40:56
  no she probably didn't really know until later
• 40:59
  i mean like so one time um i had to give a speech
• 41:02
  at the editorial cartoonist convention and these
• 41:06
  conventions always have a lot of hardcore drinking
• 41:08
  and i i went to i i you know i just didn't have
• 41:13
  much to eat that day i didn't even drink much
• 41:15
  i had like there was an open bar before and two
• 41:17
  glasses of wine i can hold my liquor usually
• 41:21
  Or at least I think I can I mean that's for others
• 41:23
  to judge Anyway, the point is I had like a couple
• 41:26
  of glasses of wine on an empty stomach went up
• 41:29
  and gave my speech and you know My friend Scott
• 41:32
  Stantis with who I do DMZ America was in the
• 41:34
  audience and afterwards He's like Jesus Christ
• 41:38
  Ted and I was like, I don't know if I can feel
• 41:40
  my lips and he goes He could hear so smashed
• 41:45
  visibly I'm like, really? Can other people tell?
• 41:49
  He's like, yeah. I do remember holding on to
• 41:54
  the podium to keep from falling down. And it
• 42:00
  was just like, well, and honestly, I told myself,
• 42:04
  well, who gives a shit? It's a bunch of cartoonists
• 42:06
  anyway, right? It doesn't matter. And it wasn't
• 42:08
  on television or anything like that. But I mean,
• 42:10
  I feel for this woman because, you know, I've
• 42:14
  been there. I mean, I have to admit. I would
• 42:17
  show up fully caffeinated and not boozed up for
• 42:20
  something like this, but you know, it can happen
• 42:23
  to the best of us. I don't, I don't, yeah, I
• 42:29
  don't see myself. Especially if you're trying
• 42:32
  to get elected for something, getting hammered
• 42:33
  and then going into the event. I don't know,
• 42:36
  man. That seems insane to me. You're running
• 42:39
  for office and people are watching you give an
• 42:41
  interview. How do you, okay. I don't know if
• 42:45
  she was smashed like on alcohol, but she's obviously
• 42:47
  on something. she's something's going on right
• 42:50
  unless she's always like that she might be like
• 42:53
  you know the dude in the big lebowski like hey
• 42:56
  man although he's always smashed so that's a
• 43:01
  bad example um so i will repeat that i will repeal
• 43:05
  the two drink minimum Yeah, don't knock Ms. West.
• 43:16
  She still sounds more coherent than Fetterman.
• 43:19
  That's true, and she's only running for some
• 43:22
  shitty local office. He's a U .S. senator from
• 43:25
  a major state. By the way, they're talking about
• 43:28
  Lindsey Graham's sister. I'm sorry, is it sister?
• 43:31
  Sister. Yeah, it's his sister, yeah. I don't
• 43:36
  know necessarily what she has, that she's pulled,
• 43:39
  that allowed her to necessarily be eligible for
• 43:42
  office. She may lose. Lindsey Graham had that
• 43:46
  seat forever. Well, she's she's incredibly incompetent.
• 43:51
  Yeah. I mean, I think she might lose. It's interesting.
• 43:54
  I mean, we may see some surprises. It's not going
• 43:56
  to be a straightforward Democrats rule. Republicans
• 43:59
  lose. I mean, that's going to be the overall
• 44:01
  tenor of the election night. But it's going to
• 44:05
  be I think there's going to be some surprises
• 44:06
  like like Said's not doing that great in Michigan.
• 44:11
  Really? Yeah, yeah. I'd say if the election were
• 44:16
  held right now, he might lose. I'm very annoyed
• 44:18
  with Black people on this. Because of the whole
• 44:22
  Michigan demographic? Yeah. It's so weird to
• 44:25
  me. Well, he has an ace in the hole in that respect.
• 44:31
  Obama's coming. I think it's October 27th. Yeah.
• 44:34
  I think that's a game changer for Saeed. I think
• 44:39
  Obama's still a nuclear weapon in regards to
• 44:41
  Democrats. oh but obama he's clearly you know
• 44:45
  still a power broker in the democratic party
• 44:48
  oh i mean yeah that's that's that's he's got
• 44:50
  to be good for eight to ten points i mean just
• 44:53
  by parachuting in yeah i mean because i hate
• 44:57
  this idea that somehow him being muslim is somehow
• 45:00
  different than the experience that black people
• 45:02
  go through right these are the and democrats
• 45:07
  do this and they do this all the time and it's
• 45:10
  it it's bad politics they create this division
• 45:14
  between people okay you're hispanic you're black
• 45:16
  you're this you're that you're this as if these
• 45:18
  things are somehow somehow distinct in regards
• 45:21
  to their experience it's like oh you're a black
• 45:23
  african or you're a caribbean black that's not
• 45:26
  the same as a descendant of slaves black you
• 45:28
  guys are different well i mean i do think descendants
• 45:31
  of slaves are black they're different of course
• 45:33
  they're different but yeah but political interests
• 45:36
  are not necessarily different yeah the political
• 45:38
  interests are the same for all of these groups
• 45:40
  But the experience of a Hispanic, the experience
• 45:42
  of an African -American. OK, they may have like
• 45:44
  when the cop pulls you over at two in the morning,
• 45:46
  you know, they're not making those distinctions.
• 45:49
  No. What matters is the economics of it all.
• 45:52
  And if somebody is talking about, look, I'm going
• 45:54
  to put more money in your pocket. We're going
• 45:55
  to stop sending money to genocidal maniacs. If
• 45:59
  you think he's sincere, then maybe you should
• 46:02
  back that guy, regardless of his rights. Like,
• 46:04
  it doesn't matter that Sanders is Jewish. It
• 46:06
  doesn't matter that some random person is Hispanic
• 46:09
  or somebody else is trans. Are they going to
• 46:13
  represent the interests of the public? Right.
• 46:15
  It doesn't matter that Ted Kennedy was wealthy.
• 46:18
  Exactly. Well, FDR was wealthy, right? Right.
• 46:21
  Like, if they will represent your interests,
• 46:24
  they represent your interests. It's that. And
• 46:26
  so I hate the idea that they're looking at him
• 46:28
  like he's somehow different. Oh, he's not, you
• 46:32
  know, part of our experience. OK, does he need
• 46:34
  to be part of your specific experience? Is he
• 46:37
  doing what you're sending him to Washington to
• 46:39
  do? But is it about that tomorrow or is it about
• 46:41
  is I mean, you know, I mean, look, obviously,
• 46:44
  you know, I'm not I'm obviously white. But I
• 46:48
  mean, from what I hear and what I read, this
• 46:51
  is mostly a quite, you know, conservative, older
• 46:54
  black, small C conservative, you know, older
• 46:56
  blacks like Democrats. They're worried. Right.
• 46:59
  They're like kind of like we don't want to waste
• 47:00
  our votes. We don't want to vote for some clown.
• 47:03
  and then and then get burned and have them lose
• 47:05
  we want our best possible chance at winning yeah
• 47:08
  but that attitude ensures that that happens right
• 47:13
  yeah plus you're in the gym you're in the general
• 47:15
  now he he's the democrat right he's the democrat
• 47:18
  right so it's like if you're looking at the like
• 47:21
  yeah i don't want to vote for that guy because
• 47:22
  the guy is doing so and so you are ensuring what
• 47:25
  you are um afraid of like i hate this stuff right
• 47:30
  like like The system that we have at our disposal
• 47:33
  is basically because Blacks do, as a rule, keep
• 47:39
  the monster at bay. Which candidate keeps the
• 47:42
  monster at bay? Now, that makes sense in the
• 47:44
  primary. Which is how Bernie got fucked over.
• 47:47
  Which will make me think, OK, the Black vote,
• 47:50
  they might have been skeptical of him before.
• 47:52
  OK, why would you be skeptical of him now as
• 47:54
  he's the Democratic nominee? But apparently that
• 47:58
  skepticism still exists, which is wild to me.
• 48:02
  Yeah. Yeah. It's like, look, it's one thing if
• 48:05
  you say, I don't believe in a political system,
• 48:06
  I don't think we can get there through voting,
• 48:08
  meaning we can't get what we want from here.
• 48:10
  I get that. But to say you're a part of this
• 48:15
  political system, you vote in this political
• 48:16
  system, and yet you don't want Saeed because
• 48:18
  of some hashtag reason, that's a little weird
• 48:21
  to me. Like if you're a Democrat, it looks like
• 48:23
  you have to vote differently. I also kind of,
• 48:24
  I mean, I guess the thing is, I would hope for
• 48:26
  some... generosity of spirit on the part of some
• 48:29
  older black voters in michigan that they would
• 48:32
  sort of say in the same way that a lot of white
• 48:35
  people said in 2008 like you know let's let the
• 48:38
  black guy drive the car for a while you know
• 48:40
  everyone else has had their chance and like maybe
• 48:42
  let's let the let's let the younger you know
• 48:45
  uh let's let the younger uh muslim dude try have
• 48:48
  a shot at you know right why not you know so
• 48:51
  let's see how it goes yeah i mean him being muslim
• 48:54
  shouldn't matter Is there a shared experience
• 48:56
  among the people in the state that he's going
• 48:59
  to represent? It's just that. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
• 49:03
  I don't think he's, I mean, I will say tonally,
• 49:06
  I don't think he's the perfect candidate. I mean,
• 49:08
  nobody's really a perfect, well, Obama was a
• 49:12
  perfect candidate. There are perfect candidates
• 49:13
  sometimes. Trump was a perfect candidate in 2016.
• 49:18
  I mean, but I think, you know, Saeed, there's
• 49:22
  something, you know. he's not likable somehow
• 49:26
  um i mean he's got that hillary clinton thing
• 49:30
  where he's annoying that's not a good thing to
• 49:34
  have i mean do you feel it i mean it's completely
• 49:38
  look it's just that's just me seek i mean i don't
• 49:40
  know if anyone else sees it when he got pissy
• 49:44
  with the reporter and so that lingered i don't
• 49:47
  know what he is in earnest but that image lingers
• 49:50
  right um but yeah i i don't put it this way i
• 49:55
  don't want them shortchanging him just because
• 49:57
  he's muslim or just because he's you know whatever
• 50:00
  if you don't like him and i don't really care
• 50:02
  that he's i mean i'd still vote for him if i
• 50:03
  lived in michigan even though i think he's a
• 50:05
  little uh you know broey and spicy but okay whatever
• 50:09
  yeah but yeah when obama comes i suppose we need
• 50:14
  to look at the polling after it because i'll
• 50:15
  be interested in whatever that shift is because
• 50:17
  that shift will take place i think that's literally
• 50:20
  going to make or break him um without obama visiting
• 50:23
  i think he loses um shit for that like for him
• 50:28
  campaigning with kamala harris or him campaigning
• 50:30
  with obama i mean for one i don't know if kamala
• 50:33
  harris is running again i know you don't think
• 50:35
  she is i think there's a chance that she may
• 50:37
  oh there's a chance it's it's definitely i just
• 50:40
  don't think it's 50 or better should they have
• 50:43
  given him shit for campaigning with them too
• 50:45
  because their their thing is okay you criticized
• 50:48
  obama on you know on his policies when he was
• 50:52
  in office And Kamala Harris was supporting a
• 50:55
  genocide. How are you campaigning with these
• 50:57
  people? That's the argument that's used against
• 51:00
  the matter left. It's a legitimate argument.
• 51:02
  I mean, Barack Obama expanded the drone wars.
• 51:05
  He expanded the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. He
• 51:09
  oversaw the Maidan coup. You know, there's a
• 51:15
  lot of stuff that he has to answer for, for sure.
• 51:18
  Yeah. I mean, I wrote an entire book about it
• 51:22
  called The Book of Obama about just basically
• 51:24
  the entire book is basically like Obama sucks
• 51:26
  and you don't think he does, but he does. But
• 51:29
  I get that. But he's trying to get elected, right?
• 51:34
  Like you can say you're selling your soul. If
• 51:36
  I were advising him, I'd be like, man, you need.
• 51:38
  I mean, I said this, I wrote about when I did
• 51:41
  my syndicated column about Said a few months
• 51:44
  ago. I said, he's got to get, you know, the Democrats
• 51:46
  have to get serious and they have to get behind
• 51:47
  him. And I was like, first and foremost, they
• 51:51
  need Obama. I mean, the main thing about Kamala
• 51:53
  was, I mean, come on, it's like it's profit and
• 51:56
  loss. What is the advantage of having Kamala?
• 51:58
  I mean, except for the fact that she's a woman
• 52:01
  of color, she brings nothing to the table. I
• 52:03
  mean, she lost. She doesn't have any charisma.
• 52:08
  Talk about annoying. People find her annoying.
• 52:11
  She sent Black people to death row in California,
• 52:15
  including innocent ones. I mean, fuck her. I
• 52:19
  just don't know what she brings to the table
• 52:21
  if you're trying to get someone to come as a
• 52:23
  surrogate. But we all know what Obama brings
• 52:25
  to the table. Yeah, but the problem is they may
• 52:28
  be a package deal. He may not be able to be like,
• 52:32
  I don't want her. I want him. like it may not
• 52:34
  necessarily be this thing where he could just
• 52:35
  one column a not one from column b no i don't
• 52:38
  know if he could do that and if he did do that
• 52:41
  i don't know if he would get obama like meaning
• 52:44
  if you're if you're a democrat you're democrat
• 52:46
  kamala harris has not been excluded from the
• 52:49
  democratic party so if she's like hey i'll come
• 52:52
  to your event okay and obama says hey i'll come
• 52:56
  to your event yes thank you good oh i mean i
• 52:58
  would say like look uh if If you're Saeed and
• 53:02
  you can get Obama, but you also have to have
• 53:04
  Jack the Ripper, that's fine. I would be like,
• 53:08
  whatever. He needed Obama. He needs Obama to
• 53:13
  show up. He needs Obama not to have a cold or
• 53:16
  the flu. He needs Obama to show up on time, early.
• 53:19
  I mean, that's what he needs in this case. Yeah,
• 53:23
  it will move the needle, I think. It'll really,
• 53:26
  seriously, he'll owe Obama in a big way. No question.
• 53:30
  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So I see Laith Maroof in
• 53:35
  the green room. So, Laith, if you would be so
• 53:39
  kind as to turn on your camera and your mic,
• 53:43
  you'll see underneath your name. There you go.
• 53:46
  All right, cool. Should we go ahead and bring
• 53:48
  him in? Sure. Okay. We are joined with the one,
• 53:53
  the only, Laith Maroof on Free Palestine TV.
• 53:57
  How you doing, Laith? You doing okay today? Doing
• 53:59
  good, doing good. It's my first time on this
• 54:02
  Rumble platform. I'm actually impressed. I didn't
• 54:06
  think that it would be this well organized. And
• 54:10
  I'm glad to be on your new show, guys. It's my
• 54:14
  first time with Jamal many times before, but
• 54:18
  it's good to see that you guys are doing other
• 54:22
  work. So it's great. We're trying to kick ass.
• 54:26
  And by the way, let people know where you are.
• 54:29
  Free Palestine TV is the network. I want to make
• 54:32
  sure I get this right. And Free Palestine, that
• 54:34
  video is where they can find your work online.
• 54:36
  But I want to give you space to tell them where
• 54:39
  they can find your work. Yes, yes. And thank
• 54:43
  you so much for letting me bring it up because...
• 54:47
  We just got a strike on YouTube. We've been under
• 54:51
  like a sustained, organized Zionist attack of
• 54:55
  trying to report everything on the channel. And
• 55:01
  it's really awkward because we just got this
• 55:05
  strike, not because of a content that we produced,
• 55:08
  but a short from an interview that Carl Zah conducted
• 55:12
  with me. What? Yes. And so the channel, Carl's
• 55:17
  last channel, and the full interview is still
• 55:19
  up there. But this clip that we put, and it doesn't
• 55:23
  have anything. It's just talking about, you know,
• 55:25
  my usual speech that I talk about what has happened
• 55:28
  in the last three years as a result of the war
• 55:31
  on Gaza, the genocide there. And now we're unable
• 55:35
  to upload for the next two weeks. It was a 90
• 55:40
  -day penalty. Somehow they just changed it by
• 55:46
  themselves to 15 days So I think maybe the pressure
• 55:50
  is working. I hope more people complain to YouTube
• 55:53
  about it so we can get our channel back and you
• 55:56
  know, we are 100 % dependent on the donations
• 55:59
  of our viewers even with the Monetization we
• 56:02
  had on YouTube. They were not giving us more
• 56:04
  than a dollar fifty per part of the documentaries
• 56:07
  that we're posting every day uh they're really
• 56:10
  robbing us of any possible money from youtube
• 56:13
  so donations uh are appreciated so we can continue
• 56:17
  um our content production free palestine that
• 56:20
  video is the website where people can do that
• 56:22
  yeah that sucks they did it to caleb also where
• 56:26
  they took his entire channel down and then like
• 56:29
  a couple of days later it's like oh by the way
• 56:31
  we got this wrong here's your channel back it's
• 56:34
  like what How do you get something like that
• 56:36
  wrong? I was watching last night. Saudi Arabia
• 56:40
  is getting hit over and over and over again.
• 56:43
  Ansar Allah has basically made the point of saying
• 56:45
  that there's a blockade on Saudi airports, which
• 56:47
  many airplanes or many airport companies are
• 56:49
  effectively honoring because Riyadh's airports.
• 56:53
  And I forget there was another airport last night
• 56:55
  that got hit. On top of that hit, Saudi Aramco
• 56:58
  also got hit with ballistic missiles. Give us
• 57:03
  a breakdown of what is effectively taking place
• 57:05
  currently in the context of the war with Yemen
• 57:08
  and Saudi Arabia. And there's something else
• 57:10
  I want to ask you about this, but this is the
• 57:11
  question I want to get first. Yeah, well, obviously
• 57:15
  the Saud regime is being pulled by a leash to
• 57:22
  conduct this war against Yemen. The Zionists
• 57:26
  and the Americans are getting them to commit.
• 57:30
  Public suicide, it seems like, on their behalf.
• 57:33
  You know, the Saudis hit the oil facilities outside
• 57:39
  Sana 'a, but they were empty because every oil
• 57:44
  facility that is under the control of Sana 'a's
• 57:46
  government has been hit a million times over
• 57:48
  the last 15 years. So the Yemeni government has
• 57:53
  created underground facilities to protect its
• 57:57
  reserves. and the Saudis are unable to reach
• 58:00
  those. And so it was just a really clear, stupid
• 58:06
  thing for the Saudis to do to attack the oil
• 58:10
  facilities outside Sana 'a, because that opened
• 58:13
  the door for the government of Sana 'a to retaliate
• 58:17
  in kind, and the Saudi oil reserves are not destroyed
• 58:21
  already. They're not underground. And when you
• 58:26
  think about... the effect of Iran's war, the
• 58:31
  40 -day war on Iran, where Iran destroyed much
• 58:34
  of the air defenses in the Arabian Peninsula,
• 58:37
  much of the satellite receiving information centers
• 58:42
  and the radars and so on. It's clear that the
• 58:45
  Saudi assets are less protected than they were
• 58:49
  before the war on Iran. So why would you take
• 58:53
  such a stupid decision? The only answer is that
• 58:57
  the government of Saudi Arabia are vassals, complete
• 59:00
  vassals that have no control of their own decisions.
• 59:08
  Leith, if you could maybe comment a little bit
• 59:12
  on what the future of the Saudi oil industry
• 59:17
  looks like, that would be great. Because, I mean,
• 59:19
  it really seems like the Saudis are out of options,
• 59:22
  right? the uh you know answer uh answer alam
• 59:26
  uh ala kerry um in the aka the hooties control
• 59:30
  the gulf of aidan uh the the uh the the street
• 59:33
  of hormuz is is controlled by iran there's no
• 59:36
  way to the pipeline has been under attack multiple
• 59:40
  times and basically the hooties have been clear
• 59:42
  about like we're going to keep we'll let you
• 59:46
  repair it and then we'll hit it again so You
• 59:49
  know, Saudi Arabia was once the world's largest
• 59:52
  oil exporting nation and still obviously a very
• 59:55
  important one. Are they going to basically, are
• 59:59
  their exports going to slow to a trickle? I mean,
• 1:00:02
  you already have oil prices around the world
• 1:00:05
  and in the United States critically skyrocketing.
• 1:00:09
  Diesel prices are way up. Truckers are stopping,
• 1:00:12
  are starting to not roll their trucks anymore
• 1:00:15
  because it's not worth it. What options did the
• 1:00:19
  Saudis have at this point besides making peace?
• 1:00:23
  You know, the CEO of Aramco in a conference two
• 1:00:28
  days ago informed the world that the last defensive
• 1:00:34
  line of the Saudi oil industry, which is their
• 1:00:39
  land -based reserves, are right now getting pounded.
• 1:00:43
  So there's no exports, there's nothing. No oil
• 1:00:47
  reserves outside Saudi Arabia, like in facilities
• 1:00:50
  that they export in and so on, left. And now
• 1:00:53
  this reserve is getting destroyed. So even if
• 1:00:58
  we think that the war stops today, and it's going
• 1:01:03
  to take six months to two years to rebuild all
• 1:01:08
  of this infrastructure, and the output of Saudi
• 1:01:12
  Arabia is not going to rise to its pre -war.
• 1:01:16
  output for years even after that. The oil prices
• 1:01:22
  right now on a global scale should be actually
• 1:01:25
  around the $200 a barrel, except for as we see
• 1:01:30
  the Israelis and the Americans manipulating the
• 1:01:35
  market prices by dumping futures at a cheaper
• 1:01:39
  price than they bought them. uh make it look
• 1:01:43
  like that the price is less okay than it is and
• 1:01:46
  that's not gonna last for long because even the
• 1:01:49
  futures themselves that they are dumping the
• 1:01:51
  losses that they're you know um having to uh
• 1:01:55
  you know absorb because of this dumping uh is
• 1:01:59
  not sustainable this this action so and and the
• 1:02:03
  fcc and um you know the commission's uh you know
• 1:02:08
  the trading commission in the united states are
• 1:02:11
  hiding these facts. Even there's complaints about
• 1:02:14
  them. They're not allowing investigations to
• 1:02:16
  happen on this manipulation of prices. There
• 1:02:19
  is no way for Saudi Arabia to return to the good
• 1:02:24
  old days, except by letting go of Yemen. And
• 1:02:31
  the United States and Israel are not going to
• 1:02:33
  allow them to do that. Because the... future
• 1:02:38
  of Israel depends, and the future of the United
• 1:02:41
  States in Western Asia, depends on defeating
• 1:02:44
  the axis of resistance. And as we see, the axis
• 1:02:46
  of resistance is coming out victorious in most
• 1:02:49
  of these battles. I don't know, honestly, I can't
• 1:02:55
  anymore analyze the decisions of these vassals.
• 1:03:00
  except through the prism of ideological constraints
• 1:03:04
  of Zionism that is forcing them all to take these
• 1:03:07
  suicidal actions. Saudi Arabia seems to get...
• 1:03:12
  Somebody made the point of saying the attacks
• 1:03:14
  by Ansar Allah, basically the fact that Saudi
• 1:03:17
  Arabia can't do anything about it, is pushing
• 1:03:19
  them closer to Israel, and that Israel was in
• 1:03:23
  some level of consideration about basically entering
• 1:03:26
  the war. real do you think that is I mean that
• 1:03:32
  seems like there will be a hard sell for a government
• 1:03:35
  that considers itself this kind of you know Muslim
• 1:03:38
  capital working with a Jewish supremacist colony
• 1:03:42
  that seems like that's a tough sale to your population
• 1:03:46
  but do you think that's possible look behind
• 1:03:50
  the scene Israel is already involved yes uh there's
• 1:03:55
  a symbiosis relationship between the Saud regime
• 1:04:01
  and in general all of these Arab vassal monarchies
• 1:04:06
  and the Zionist column. And people can research
• 1:04:11
  by themselves and look at the exchanges of letters
• 1:04:14
  between King Abdulaziz of the Saudi kingdom and
• 1:04:18
  Ben -Gurion in the 1930s plotting against the
• 1:04:22
  citizens of the kingdom themselves. and against
• 1:04:26
  the Arab revolt in 1936 that swept through much
• 1:04:30
  of greater Syria and Palestine. So this is a
• 1:04:35
  symbiosis. The Zionist regime needs these vassal
• 1:04:40
  monarchies to be the defensive line for it. And
• 1:04:43
  these, you know, illegitimate vassal monarchs
• 1:04:48
  that were appointed by the imperialists need
• 1:04:50
  the protection of Israel against its own people.
• 1:04:55
  uh it's uh they're gonna ride together uh till
• 1:04:59
  death basically right and that's that's i think
• 1:05:03
  what's gonna happen uh there is israeli military
• 1:05:07
  and intelligence experts in the saudi command
• 1:05:10
  centers and that's been in reality for you know
• 1:05:14
  decades if not almost a century uh and so do
• 1:05:19
  they need to openly be involved when they are
• 1:05:23
  already involved they don't need to be openly
• 1:05:25
  involved i mean but i don't see how the economics
• 1:05:30
  make sense right i mean saudi arabia is an oil
• 1:05:32
  producing state they have nothing else going
• 1:05:34
  on of substance in their economy um it's you
• 1:05:37
  know it's i just don't see how this works i mean
• 1:05:41
  okay yeah they have these obviously they're deeply
• 1:05:43
  intertwined uh you know with the zionists and
• 1:05:46
  with the state of israel but they're okay but
• 1:05:49
  what good does it do them they need to export
• 1:05:53
  oil or they die i mean how does this look in
• 1:05:56
  two five ten years you know this this argument
• 1:06:02
  also applies to the whole imperial order look
• 1:06:06
  at uh the elite in europe that are destroying
• 1:06:10
  their own economies and their trade capabilities
• 1:06:12
  uh through this war in ukraine or the you know
• 1:06:17
  suicidal pact with israel uh you know, destroying
• 1:06:20
  their reputation, destroying the social services
• 1:06:23
  that they have. And even when we talk about Europe
• 1:06:28
  and the US having economic warfare with China,
• 1:06:31
  I mean, it's suicidal because you depend so much
• 1:06:35
  on Chinese products and from the Chinese market
• 1:06:38
  to buy your products to continue existing. So
• 1:06:42
  what we see is that All the traditional ways
• 1:06:46
  that we can analyze the decisions of power centers
• 1:06:50
  in the imperial alliance, meaning economy, trade,
• 1:06:57
  territory, resources, have now ceased to be meaningful
• 1:07:03
  ways that we can analyze these decisions in life.
• 1:07:06
  There is total ideological blindness. The elite
• 1:07:10
  in the imperial core Europe, North America, Oceania,
• 1:07:16
  and the GCC have now all decided that they're
• 1:07:22
  going to risk everything they have all for the
• 1:07:27
  maintenance of the Jewish colony, even if it
• 1:07:29
  means that their whole thing collapses, right?
• 1:07:32
  It doesn't make sense. The Emirates or Bahrain
• 1:07:36
  or Qatar or Kuwait, which are city -states with
• 1:07:40
  less than a million populations. to go in bed
• 1:07:44
  with the u .s in a war with iran that's not a
• 1:07:47
  decision that anyone who's logical would make
• 1:07:50
  right so there is ideological blindness now this
• 1:07:54
  is the only way the only prism that we can analyze
• 1:07:57
  that the united states has a far more diversified
• 1:08:00
  economy right i mean so the u .s ha this is this
• 1:08:05
  is you know the u .s is the last one that will
• 1:08:07
  collapse probably economically, because of these
• 1:08:10
  crazy ideological wars. And as we see, it's already
• 1:08:14
  cannibalizing the smaller components of the empire,
• 1:08:18
  the economies of Europe and Canada, Greenland,
• 1:08:23
  all of those. That's actions of cannibalization
• 1:08:25
  within the imperial order. And unfortunately,
• 1:08:30
  the craziest thing is that the components that
• 1:08:33
  are being cannibalized, like Canada, like Greenland,
• 1:08:37
  are actually defending their own cannibalization.
• 1:08:42
  Like they're continuing with it. So we're in
• 1:08:46
  bizarre moments. I mean, think about it. You
• 1:08:52
  know what's the most bizarre thing that has happened
• 1:08:54
  over the last three years? And I think this is
• 1:08:58
  going to be like an anomaly in human history's
• 1:09:01
  record, is seeing, let's say, schools and preachers
• 1:09:06
  in the united states posting this online that
• 1:09:10
  they are teaching their children in these schools
• 1:09:12
  that are christian schools that jews are better
• 1:09:17
  than them that there's a chosen people and that
• 1:09:21
  their own life as christian white americans are
• 1:09:25
  in the service of jews god damn i mean human
• 1:09:30
  history has been always like We are better than
• 1:09:33
  somebody else. Each nation is saying that they
• 1:09:35
  are above somebody else and that those people
• 1:09:38
  are less than us. We've never in human history
• 1:09:42
  had a civilization stand up on a podium and say
• 1:09:46
  those people are better than us and we are in
• 1:09:50
  their service. The American politicians, British
• 1:09:54
  politicians, French politicians, German politicians
• 1:09:57
  are telling their own citizens in their own country.
• 1:10:00
  you have less rights than a jewish american than
• 1:10:03
  a jewish german and a jewish and plus all our
• 1:10:06
  army will be in the service of the jewish colony
• 1:10:09
  and we will die for it and you have to approve
• 1:10:11
  that but this is this is lunacy i i don't know
• 1:10:16
  what kind of psychosis how you have to be in
• 1:10:19
  to actually stand up and say i am less than and
• 1:10:23
  there's a chosen people and i'm not one of them
• 1:10:25
  We've been accustomed to Western civilization
• 1:10:29
  say it's the end of history, that there's a superior
• 1:10:33
  race that's called the whites or Germanics or
• 1:10:36
  whatever it is, but we've never seen people do
• 1:10:40
  this in any human historical period ever. Yeah,
• 1:10:44
  the Christian Zionists are weird, like the Hegseths
• 1:10:48
  or the Huckabees. Just the ideology in and of
• 1:10:53
  itself is terrifying. I'm curious on something
• 1:10:55
  else. Foreign Minister Arigachi, Iran's foreign
• 1:10:58
  minister, apparently have been pressing Ansarullah
• 1:11:01
  to come to some kind of negotiation or negotiate
• 1:11:04
  with Saudi Arabia. They've done this on multiple
• 1:11:07
  occasions. And on both kinds, Ansarullah had
• 1:11:09
  basically said, no, they didn't trust Saudi Arabia
• 1:11:12
  and Saudi Arabia wasn't necessarily going to
• 1:11:14
  abide by anything that they came up with in the
• 1:11:16
  negotiations. The question is, why is Arigachi
• 1:11:20
  even doing that? Yeah, I mean, you know. We've
• 1:11:26
  got to take that with a grain of salt, the reports
• 1:11:29
  of this. You don't believe it? No, I don't believe
• 1:11:33
  it. In fact, what we have more proof of is that
• 1:11:37
  the Foreign Affairs of Iran called the Foreign
• 1:11:41
  Affairs of Saudi Arabia and offered to negotiate
• 1:11:44
  a ceasefire. for the demands of Yemen, which
• 1:11:52
  is very simple demands. Leave us alone. Literally,
• 1:11:55
  this is the demands of Yemen. Leave us alone.
• 1:11:57
  Stop your bombardment. Stop your blockade. And
• 1:12:00
  we will leave you alone. We never wanted to attack
• 1:12:02
  you. That's literally what the Yemenis have said.
• 1:12:05
  And that the Saudis actually are the ones that
• 1:12:07
  refused to have any negotiations. The Saudis
• 1:12:12
  demanded a ceasefire of four weeks. And Yemen
• 1:12:17
  returned by saying, no, we want a complete cessation
• 1:12:22
  of hostilities and a peace treaty, basically.
• 1:12:25
  And the Saudis have refused. So, you know, people
• 1:12:31
  should watch out with all of this stuff constantly
• 1:12:35
  trying to undermine the foreign affairs department
• 1:12:39
  of Iran. Not to say that there is no, you know,
• 1:12:45
  differences of opinion within the Iranian establishment.
• 1:12:48
  But the Iranian Foreign Affairs Department, after
• 1:12:53
  now the destruction of Syria's Foreign Affairs
• 1:12:55
  Department, is the only most advanced, most capable
• 1:13:03
  foreign affairs establishment outside Russia
• 1:13:05
  and China in the world. constantly talk down
• 1:13:12
  about, I mean, their job is to negotiate. Their
• 1:13:15
  job is to be the good face, while there's the
• 1:13:18
  military that is supposed to come and use a stick
• 1:13:22
  on the enemies of Iran. If the Iranian foreign
• 1:13:25
  affairs is always just giving the finger, what
• 1:13:28
  kind of foreign affairs would it be, right? It's
• 1:13:30
  their job to negotiate, and then the final decisions
• 1:13:34
  are to the military and the government. So let's
• 1:13:37
  not undermine their efforts. to actually do their
• 1:13:40
  job. Find solutions. No, that's a fair point.
• 1:13:44
  That's a fair point. And you may be right. But
• 1:13:47
  the story had floated out. So I definitely wanted
• 1:13:50
  to hit you with it to get your take on it. Laith,
• 1:13:53
  you have my thanks for this. Unless, Tit, you
• 1:13:55
  have another question? I'm good. Okay. Laith,
• 1:13:59
  thank you for this, man. Laith Marouth, Free
• 1:14:02
  Palestine TV. Check out his work on freepalestine
• 1:14:05
  .video. Laith, you be safe. i see you thank you
• 1:14:08
  so much guys thank you very much appreciate you
• 1:14:11
  bye -bye so yeah i mean let's talk let's keep
• 1:14:16
  let's keep the conversation going um regarding
• 1:14:19
  uh the middle east so it's been a year since
• 1:14:23
  the so -called ceasefire uh in gaza it turns
• 1:14:26
  out that turned that turned out to be like a
• 1:14:29
  really good israeli propaganda move to sign that
• 1:14:32
  ceasefire because they can they get to keep bombing
• 1:14:34
  gaza there's been no reconstruction whatsoever
• 1:14:38
  the board of peace remember that is like nobody's
• 1:14:41
  heard hide nor hair of them uh there's been uh
• 1:14:45
  you know basically the locals are still living
• 1:14:47
  in tents two out of three at least um everything's
• 1:14:50
  just been demolished there's no infrastructure
• 1:14:52
  no clean water uh no no no reliable access to
• 1:14:56
  food just abject misery and the press is still
• 1:14:59
  not allowed in the international press still
• 1:15:02
  the israelis still don't let them in so we don't
• 1:15:04
  get a full picture of what's going on there i
• 1:15:06
  mean I guess I don't feel like this situation
• 1:15:10
  is going to change anytime soon because there's
• 1:15:12
  no pressure for it to change on the Israelis
• 1:15:16
  or even on the part of the media to get in there
• 1:15:19
  and find out what's going on. It's just sort
• 1:15:22
  of like these people just languish and the Israelis
• 1:15:24
  just keep on keeping on. Say, hey, everything
• 1:15:39
  is good. Nothing to see here. The war has stopped.
• 1:15:42
  And focus on other items as they continue to
• 1:15:47
  take land and territory. And by the way, one
• 1:15:50
  of the common elements, whether you're talking
• 1:15:53
  about Lebanon or whether you're talking about
• 1:15:54
  Gaza, is the destruction of everything. Because
• 1:15:57
  they want the land. Meaning there's a reason
• 1:16:00
  why they're attacking construction companies
• 1:16:02
  or construction equipment in Lebanon. They don't
• 1:16:04
  want them to rebuild because that's land they
• 1:16:06
  want to take for themselves. The same thing is
• 1:16:08
  true in Gaza. What, like 70 % they've stolen
• 1:16:10
  of the land that they've effectively pushed people
• 1:16:13
  back on where basically the rest of the population
• 1:16:16
  that hasn't been murdered is living in the much
• 1:16:18
  smaller, like 30 % of Gaza. I mean, think about
• 1:16:22
  that. Like it was already one of the most densely
• 1:16:25
  populated places on earth. And now you've compressed
• 1:16:28
  that into like 30%. So no, they effectively used.
• 1:16:35
  quote peace as a way to continuously conduct
• 1:16:37
  their war just to do it behind the scenes while
• 1:16:41
  they also went and started killing people in
• 1:16:44
  lebanon stealing territory in lebanon no you're
• 1:16:47
  right and i mean is there also an even more sinister
• 1:16:50
  motive which is i mean look um officially 70
• 1:16:54
  000 uh according to the gaza health ministry
• 1:16:57
  70 000 people died in gaza uh since 2023 however
• 1:17:02
  they the way that they i mean it's it's it's
• 1:17:05
  funny because i mean funny it's strange because
• 1:17:08
  normally one side the victim side in a in a war
• 1:17:13
  will tend to over count their casualties but
• 1:17:16
  that's not what happened here because of the
• 1:17:18
  methodology of the gaza health ministry is that
• 1:17:21
  they have to have a bot they have to be able
• 1:17:23
  to have a body and they have to be able to identify
• 1:17:25
  that body for that person to count and say okay
• 1:17:28
  so this was ted roll he was 63 he was a cartoonist
• 1:17:32
  um and uh and he lived at this town um okay then
• 1:17:38
  then i count but if i'm in bits and pieces under
• 1:17:41
  the rubble i don't count for the gaza health
• 1:17:44
  ministry now the pop you know the zionists are
• 1:17:47
  all over twitter uh slash x saying like what
• 1:17:50
  kind of genocide is it that the population of
• 1:17:53
  gaza keeps going up it's like well it's not is
• 1:17:56
  the first answer the population has been dropping
• 1:17:59
  um not that that would mean anything i mean you
• 1:18:02
  could conceivably have large family sizes that
• 1:18:04
  would make up for it but that's not really what's
• 1:18:06
  going on i mean by the latest estimates are that
• 1:18:09
  it's closer to five six or even seven hundred
• 1:18:12
  thousand dead which you know that kind of makes
• 1:18:15
  sense when you consider the ferocity of the war
• 1:18:18
  and uh all all those ruined buildings i mean
• 1:18:21
  is a big part of this just to make sure that
• 1:18:24
  those bodies stay buried um it's rubble like
• 1:18:27
  you cover over the rubble you're covering over
• 1:18:30
  the bodies the bodies never get counted you never
• 1:18:33
  have to account for them you know and that's
• 1:18:36
  it that's a good point that's a very good point
• 1:18:40
  Basically, we don't want people on the ground
• 1:18:42
  to see the level of carnage that we inflicted
• 1:18:44
  on this population. That's a good point. Especially
• 1:18:49
  if reporters ever get in there. Yeah, if they
• 1:18:53
  ever get in there. And at that point, you know
• 1:18:55
  how much time would have passed. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:18:59
  you know, it can be in the 90s. You know, I mean,
• 1:19:02
  bodies don't last. so i mean i i do i mean they're
• 1:19:07
  doing yeah they're doing the same thing in southern
• 1:19:09
  lebanon right they're just pulling they're just
• 1:19:11
  demolishing everything and like the thing is
• 1:19:14
  i always have this argument with defenders of
• 1:19:16
  israel i'm like look that is part of the genocide
• 1:19:19
  because one of the definitions of genocide is
• 1:19:21
  to try to abolish the cultural presence of uh
• 1:19:26
  of a people in a place like for example uh china
• 1:19:29
  has been one of the accusations against china
• 1:19:32
  in what's going on in Xinjiang with the Uyghurs
• 1:19:36
  is that, for example, in the old city of Kashgar,
• 1:19:40
  which is an old Silk Road city in western China,
• 1:19:43
  that the Chinese government has been tearing
• 1:19:46
  down a lot of these very, very old five, six
• 1:19:49
  hundred year old apartments and houses. that
• 1:19:54
  were constructed using traditional Uyghur architecture,
• 1:19:58
  replacing them with sort of large, nondescript,
• 1:20:01
  modern Chinese apartment blocks. And they're
• 1:20:04
  saying that's a form of cultural genocide. I
• 1:20:07
  think that's a valid criticism to be raised without
• 1:20:11
  diverting us into the Uyghur argument. But it's
• 1:20:17
  and I've seen them tear it down and it is kind
• 1:20:19
  of sad, although I can also see it from a Chinese
• 1:20:22
  standpoint, government standpoint, like these
• 1:20:25
  are almost uninhabitable dwellings that are filthy
• 1:20:27
  and derelict beyond belief. And, you know, they
• 1:20:31
  don't have running water. And like, it's kind
• 1:20:32
  of like, you know, we're a modern country and
• 1:20:34
  we don't live like that anymore. So that's also
• 1:20:37
  a fair argument, too. This is I mean, again,
• 1:20:40
  you're tearing down, you know, mosques and churches
• 1:20:44
  and. Even, you know, stores and, you know, shops,
• 1:20:48
  all of that is part of the culture of a place.
• 1:20:50
  If you just have like, you know, Warsaw at the
• 1:20:55
  end of World War II, where, you know, there's
• 1:20:57
  like that great scene from The Pianist where
• 1:20:59
  the camera pulls back and you just see that the
• 1:21:01
  Nazis have completely demolished everything.
• 1:21:04
  I mean, you can rebuild, but what was there is
• 1:21:08
  just permanently gone. The culture is gone, even
• 1:21:12
  if the people... start having babies again it's
• 1:21:15
  never it's never their history is gone i mean
• 1:21:19
  what what is i mean we should be very clear the
• 1:21:22
  entire point of what israel did was to do this
• 1:21:24
  we want to make this uninhabitable we don't want
• 1:21:28
  people to come back because they're like hey
• 1:21:30
  why are they taking down hospitals because they
• 1:21:32
  don't want them to get medical care because they
• 1:21:35
  don't want them to come back and bakeries so
• 1:21:39
  you can't buy food or water Yeah, we want to
• 1:21:43
  make this unlivable. Why do they go after the
• 1:21:46
  water? Why do they go after, you know, these
• 1:21:48
  things? Because they want to make it unlivable.
• 1:21:50
  They want to make it where the people can't necessarily
• 1:21:52
  live in that area. They want the land. Like when
• 1:21:55
  Joe Biden or when Donald Trump is like, we're
• 1:21:57
  going to try to get them to move to Jordan or
• 1:21:58
  we're going to try to get Egypt to take it or
• 1:22:00
  we're going to try to get some random country
• 1:22:01
  to take them. What do you think is happening
• 1:22:03
  with that? It's forced relocation, which is the
• 1:22:07
  plan. Oh, by the way, that's it. You know, I'm
• 1:22:09
  sure you've seen this, Jamal, on Twitter. One
• 1:22:12
  of the big talking points nowadays is about the
• 1:22:15
  Egyptian border fence that they've erected between
• 1:22:19
  Gaza and the Sinai Desert. And they're saying,
• 1:22:23
  oh, if Egypt cares so much about the Palestinians,
• 1:22:27
  why did they build this giant fence there to
• 1:22:29
  keep them out? But the reason that they built
• 1:22:32
  that giant fence there was because they know
• 1:22:35
  that the plan of the Israelis was to obviously
• 1:22:38
  kill as many Palestinians as they could. but
• 1:22:41
  also for those that they couldn't kill to drive
• 1:22:44
  them into the Sinai. And basically then they'd
• 1:22:47
  be able to annex Gaza. That's always clearly
• 1:22:50
  been the plan from day one. And so the Egyptians
• 1:22:54
  are like, you guys do you, but we ain't playing
• 1:22:59
  your stupid game. And so that's why we're putting
• 1:23:01
  this big thing here. So even if you open the
• 1:23:04
  fence, your border. the population you can drive
• 1:23:08
  the population in here but they'll have nowhere
• 1:23:09
  to go they're not coming into the sinai we're
• 1:23:11
  not going to cooperate with what year with your
• 1:23:14
  plans i mean and so this is i mean as strange
• 1:23:18
  as it is to say that fence actually supports
• 1:23:21
  the people of gaza and their right to remain
• 1:23:23
  in gaza which is what they want when you talk
• 1:23:26
  to them that's what they want they this is our
• 1:23:29
  ancestral home this is where we want to stay
• 1:23:30
  this is home and so But I think it's interesting
• 1:23:35
  that, you know, the Zionists are kind of like
• 1:23:38
  trying to put pressure on Egypt, like, well,
• 1:23:40
  you should take refugees. There'd be no refugees
• 1:23:43
  if it wasn't for the fact that the Israelis are
• 1:23:45
  bombing the shit out of them. Yeah. It's like
• 1:23:48
  you should stop killing. Right. Right. Hey, you
• 1:23:53
  should open the gates. If you guys care so much,
• 1:23:55
  you should open the gates. Hey, maybe you should
• 1:23:57
  stop murdering people, women and children. Yeah,
• 1:23:59
  maybe do that. Yeah. If you do that. Why don't
• 1:24:03
  you open your gate into the Negev, right? Why
• 1:24:05
  don't you do that? Yeah. So, no, I agree with
• 1:24:08
  you. I find that argument to be nonsense. How
• 1:24:11
  is it Egypt's problem something that Israel is
• 1:24:14
  doing? Yeah, it's not our mess. Fuck you. We
• 1:24:18
  know what you're on about. We're not playing.
• 1:24:20
  Yeah. And that was what Biden and Trump wanted
• 1:24:24
  to do. I never hear any Palestinians complaining.
• 1:24:27
  I never hear any Gazans saying like, oh, fucking
• 1:24:30
  Egyptians, they're such assholes. They won't
• 1:24:33
  let us in as refugees. You don't hear that. That's
• 1:24:35
  not a thing. No. I mean, they fought this war
• 1:24:39
  or this struggle for like 70 years, if not longer.
• 1:24:41
  They want to stay where they are. Yeah. So, I
• 1:24:45
  mean, Israel is obviously trying to create a
• 1:24:49
  context or pretext, a context by which they can't
• 1:24:52
  live in that situation. basically trying to force
• 1:24:54
  them out. I mean, they've taken 70 % of the territory,
• 1:24:57
  give or take. There's only 30 % left. And again,
• 1:25:02
  as I used to talk about the Board of Peace, and
• 1:25:04
  in fact, if I remember correctly, this is exactly
• 1:25:06
  what we said would happen, that they were trying
• 1:25:08
  to use this, quote, Board of Peace as a way to
• 1:25:11
  continue pursuit of their war aims, basically
• 1:25:13
  their war aims under the cover of peace, which
• 1:25:16
  is effectively what they've been doing. The question
• 1:25:20
  is, will they be able to accomplish their war
• 1:25:22
  aims? It doesn't seem like these people are leaving.
• 1:25:25
  it doesn't seem like they want to leave despite
• 1:25:27
  the horrible conditions that they're effectively
• 1:25:29
  living in but and yeah i agree with you this
• 1:25:31
  is going to go on for a while because there's
• 1:25:32
  nobody else to put focus on it the only right
• 1:25:36
  now what you have is well there's some kind of
• 1:25:38
  peace deal in gaza which there's not and there's
• 1:25:41
  some kind of deal in lebanon which there's not
• 1:25:44
  because if you notice they did the same thing
• 1:25:46
  southern lebanon they gave this argument like
• 1:25:48
  well the u .s and the puppet government of lebanon
• 1:25:51
  have made a deal to carve off southern lebanon
• 1:25:54
  from lebanon it's like whoa whoa southern lebanon
• 1:25:57
  is not lebanon like what right and but the team
• 1:26:01
  rules don't apply apparently to the donbass yeah
• 1:26:04
  they don't apply it's so weird right but i guess
• 1:26:08
  i'm trying to point out that in both of these
• 1:26:09
  situations they're trying to use this idea of
• 1:26:11
  peace as a cover to pursue their war aims in
• 1:26:14
  gaza they've been able to do it very proficiently
• 1:26:17
  in lebanon less so because that has gained more
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  focus Hey, so we are in the Q &A hour for people
• 1:26:25
  who remember that. So if you have questions,
• 1:26:28
  please put them into the live chat. A paid question
• 1:26:30
  from Peter Ive. My wife still, or comment, my
• 1:26:33
  wife still blames me for voting third party in
• 1:26:35
  2016 in Rhode Island, which hasn't voted for
• 1:26:38
  a Republican since Nixon. Your wife blames you?
• 1:26:44
  People always, oh God, if you vote third party,
• 1:26:48
  as I do, you always catch shit. No, I mean. Again,
• 1:26:53
  and I live in New York. It's the white part.
• 1:26:55
  If Hillary Clinton was going to lose in New York,
• 1:26:58
  well, I mean, I don't know what to say. Where
• 1:27:00
  was she going to win? It's the white part that
• 1:27:02
  I love in that. So his wife, apparently a Democrat,
• 1:27:07
  blames him for going third party. Now, I guess
• 1:27:10
  how deep does that go is the question. Is she
• 1:27:14
  angry, angry? She spits in his food. Yeah, because,
• 1:27:20
  you know. My wife and I, we had the same political
• 1:27:22
  leanings. So that was never an issue. So it would
• 1:27:26
  be very interesting to figure out. Yeah, my wife
• 1:27:29
  and I had the same leanings too. That was not
• 1:27:32
  an issue. People are asking where Robbie is.
• 1:27:34
  Robbie has the week off. It's his birthday yesterday,
• 1:27:38
  I think it was. And so he and his wife are camping
• 1:27:43
  in the wilds of Montana, where I think it's already
• 1:27:46
  snowing, if I'm not mistaken. so he sent pictures
• 1:27:50
  of them living hard it's in the it's in the group
• 1:27:53
  it's in the shows chat yeah it's like it's like
• 1:27:58
  i mean camping is kind of funny like i like camping
• 1:28:01
  but it's kind of funny because it's like you
• 1:28:03
  have a perfectly good home and then you go live
• 1:28:06
  outside yep it's like you you play homeless for
• 1:28:10
  a while you know it's funny when uh minya and
• 1:28:13
  i went to um the biden putin summit in geneva
• 1:28:18
  switzerland And we ended up going, I think it
• 1:28:20
  was like in France or Italy first. We ended up
• 1:28:23
  driving to Switzerland or even taking the train
• 1:28:26
  to Switzerland. I forget which one. But when
• 1:28:28
  they were there, they were like, hey, we're going
• 1:28:30
  out for a camping thing. And I was like, yeah,
• 1:28:34
  screw that. Somebody got a sauna massage. I got
• 1:28:37
  a massage, a pedicure. Europe. Yeah. It's like
• 1:28:42
  this has been supermodel is giving me a rub down.
• 1:28:48
  But I want to go out and rough it, right? And
• 1:28:50
  he comes back and he's like, yeah, you probably
• 1:28:52
  had the better choice. Yes, I had the better
• 1:28:53
  choice. Yeah, because you were sleeping outside.
• 1:28:57
  Yeah. I mean, that's literally the entire purpose
• 1:29:01
  of civilization with all of the bad things that
• 1:29:03
  it's wrought is that you get to sleep inside.
• 1:29:07
  Sleeping inside is pretty nice, you know? Like
• 1:29:10
  you don't wake up, there's no spiders walking
• 1:29:12
  across your face, you know, nothing like that.
• 1:29:14
  Ideally, depends on where you're at. Hopefully,
• 1:29:16
  hopefully. What is the thing for Geico? It was
• 1:29:21
  a Geico. God, Jesus. I was about to say, what
• 1:29:24
  is the thing that Geico has with Geico insurance?
• 1:29:27
  It's the Geico. When I was in Indonesia, there
• 1:29:29
  were like Geicos that was on the 39th floor.
• 1:29:31
  I was on the 39th floor. I was at the very top
• 1:29:33
  of the place. And these Geicos somehow snuck
• 1:29:35
  into the apartment. And it's very weird when
• 1:29:39
  you know that there's another living thing in
• 1:29:40
  the apartment that you're trying to sleep in.
• 1:29:42
  That you'd like to kill. Yeah. Or at least make
• 1:29:45
  a course to leave. I don't like to kill when
• 1:29:46
  they come to the door. They're fair game. Yeah,
• 1:29:49
  no, it's true. It's like, well, yeah, it's kind
• 1:29:51
  of, well, it's like, it's like your little nation
• 1:29:53
  state, like no illegal immigration. I didn't,
• 1:29:56
  you know, it's like, like if you're a pet, I
• 1:29:58
  went and bought you, then you have a, then you
• 1:30:00
  have permission to come in. But like, if you're
• 1:30:03
  a bug or a mouse, you snuck in like without my
• 1:30:07
  permission, like then I'm going to go ice on
• 1:30:09
  your ass and kill you. Now I don't kill outside
• 1:30:12
  the house. If you're a bug outside the house,
• 1:30:15
  you're a game. I mean, you're, you know. Yeah,
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  for sure. but when you come in although i will
• 1:30:22
  say if you have if i have a wasp's nest like
• 1:30:24
  as i recently did like right under the front
• 1:30:27
  door like yeah that's that's going to be a problem
• 1:30:30
  you can't really yeah you use the back door from
• 1:30:34
  now on like we're still a house yeah it's it's
• 1:30:38
  the house but if there's a but if there's a wasp's
• 1:30:42
  nest let's say a pie and it's up on the side
• 1:30:45
  of the house like yeah you guys do you you know
• 1:30:48
  yeah yeah as long as you're not affecting me
• 1:30:51
  you're good yeah yeah yeah yeah but you know
• 1:30:54
  wasps or wasps be dangerous um oh my god there's
• 1:30:57
  these there's like i used to when i used to live
• 1:30:59
  in long island they had these they're probably
• 1:31:01
  all over the country but there were these wasps
• 1:31:03
  these ground wasps that would make their nest
• 1:31:05
  in tiny little hole like the size of a nickel
• 1:31:08
  you couldn't see it and they'd come and go from
• 1:31:10
  there right and it doesn't really matter but
• 1:31:12
  in august thereabouts the hive gets like spicy
• 1:31:17
  because the queen leaves and then the whole societal
• 1:31:20
  breakdown like of the hive causes them to become
• 1:31:23
  paranoid and aggressive and territorial and so
• 1:31:26
  i was cutting the lawn in my shorts and a t -shirt
• 1:31:30
  and i went over it unbeknownst to me right and
• 1:31:33
  uh the fucker is like They were yellow jackets.
• 1:31:36
  They went up my shorts, stung me on the balls.
• 1:31:40
  It was, like, totally. And, you know, one yellow
• 1:31:43
  jacket can hit you multiple times. It's like,
• 1:31:45
  boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And so it literally
• 1:31:48
  feels like you're being, I mean, because it's
• 1:31:50
  your balls, it feels like you're being shot.
• 1:31:51
  So you're literally, and they don't stop until
• 1:31:54
  you kill them. You can't just, like, brush them
• 1:31:56
  off. You have to kill them, like, bam, bam, bam,
• 1:31:58
  right? So there you are, you know, hurting yourself
• 1:32:00
  even more. And then, like, oh, my God, it hurt
• 1:32:03
  for a month. And I was like, you have to sting
• 1:32:06
  me on the balls? Really? I mean, we could have
• 1:32:09
  worked this out differently. I was so pissed.
• 1:32:11
  I personally took care of it. I went out at night
• 1:32:14
  with a, I read about on the internet how to do
• 1:32:16
  this, with a giant vat of boiling water and poured
• 1:32:19
  it in there and killed them. I was like, I'm
• 1:32:22
  killing you myself. I'm not calling Orkin this
• 1:32:26
  time. This time it's personal. This shit is personal.
• 1:32:32
  they could have bit leg they could have bit thigh
• 1:32:35
  he wasn't yeah yeah straight up also note to
• 1:32:39
  self get like tighter fitting underwear you know
• 1:32:43
  otherwise holy it's like i just wanted my balls
• 1:32:47
  to hang out in the sun and this guy's for like
• 1:32:49
  a year or two after that i was only cutting the
• 1:32:51
  lawn wearing like uh my jeans tucked into my
• 1:32:54
  into my into my into my socks I'd be paranoid,
• 1:32:58
  too. I would never wear shorts again after some
• 1:33:00
  shit like that. Is that over my hat? He could
• 1:33:04
  have stung anything. That's like Luke Skywalker
• 1:33:06
  hitting the Death Star at the right spot. He
• 1:33:10
  blew up. Oh, my God. Dodged anything that he
• 1:33:13
  had to. My kid heard me screaming. He said, I
• 1:33:16
  thought I heard a girl screaming. I'm like, you
• 1:33:18
  did. You did. It was rough. Oh, that is the funniest
• 1:33:27
  shit I've ever heard. Tetra says, yellow jackets
• 1:33:29
  are fierce, no lie. They've nailed me in the
• 1:33:31
  woods a few times. Yeah, they are brutal. I've
• 1:33:36
  never been stung by a yellow jacket, thankfully.
• 1:33:37
  I've been stung by a bee, and I destroyed that
• 1:33:40
  thing immediately. I killed that thing immediately.
• 1:33:44
  Oh, one useful piece of advice, news you can
• 1:33:46
  use, right? It's like toothpaste. Smear toothpaste
• 1:33:50
  on your sting right away. uh you know because
• 1:33:53
  the yeah because it's uh the the sting is acid
• 1:33:57
  and uh toothpaste is a base i i talked to the
• 1:34:00
  a b guy and he uh you know one of those guys
• 1:34:03
  who still drives around with the giant bug on
• 1:34:05
  the roof and he and he was like he had like tubes
• 1:34:08
  of toothpaste stacked on the on the front of
• 1:34:11
  his car and like he's like oh yeah i need these
• 1:34:13
  i use this every day oh he gets stung a lot oh
• 1:34:16
  all the time yeah jesus yeah that's rough they're
• 1:34:22
  monsters That's rough. I'd be killing yellow
• 1:34:25
  jackets every time I get my hands on one. Oh,
• 1:34:27
  yeah. No, no. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. John Doe
• 1:34:32
  says yellow jackets sting more than once. Yeah.
• 1:34:35
  No, it's true. That's the thing. A bumblebee
• 1:34:38
  will get you once. And there's a lore that they
• 1:34:40
  die afterwards. I'm not sure that's true or not.
• 1:34:42
  We'd have to get an entomologist on to say that.
• 1:34:44
  But it doesn't seem like it would be true. But
• 1:34:48
  the stinger comes off and that's it. I bet the
• 1:34:51
  stinger grows back. But I don't know. That just
• 1:34:53
  doesn't really make sense that you would just
• 1:34:55
  die after you sting. It's like something kids
• 1:34:58
  say, you know? Like, you get it one time and
• 1:35:02
  then it dies. It's probably something that parents
• 1:35:05
  tell their kids to make them feel better. Like,
• 1:35:09
  don't worry, he died. You got hurt, but he died.
• 1:35:12
  Oh, okay. Nature's weird. I mean, it's a little
• 1:35:16
  bit strange that you have one weapon and you
• 1:35:17
  can only use it once. Tetra says... honeybees
• 1:35:20
  definitely die after one sting pulls out their
• 1:35:23
  whole insides i witnessed it that's wow for me
• 1:35:27
  that's so great yeah it's like you have one weapon
• 1:35:31
  and the first time you use it that's your life
• 1:35:34
  yeah you've got one bullet do they know that
• 1:35:36
  do they know that if they see that yeah do they
• 1:35:39
  know like okay this is it i mean do they ever
• 1:35:41
  think like oh this isn't that important i'll
• 1:35:44
  hold my fire right all right Which makes you
• 1:35:47
  feel a little bit more important when you get
• 1:35:49
  stung like that. It's like, he died for this.
• 1:35:52
  Or maybe it's because of the evolution of like
• 1:35:56
  the hive mentality, right? Just sort of like,
• 1:35:58
  now, you know, my life as an individual isn't
• 1:36:01
  that important. This is about the Borg hive mind,
• 1:36:04
  right? This is about, it's about the collective.
• 1:36:07
  And it's like, I regret that I have but one stinger
• 1:36:09
  to give for my hive. Right. What was the other
• 1:36:15
  story? Because we're talking about... All right,
• 1:36:17
  all right. Nord Stream, Nord Stream. We were
• 1:36:19
  about to start talking about it. So, all right.
• 1:36:23
  So do you want to tee up like what the official
• 1:36:25
  account is of... This is hilarious, right? But
• 1:36:28
  like basically what Germany is... They alleged
• 1:36:33
  that they've arrested dudes who were involved
• 1:36:35
  in the Yachters Gone Wild incident that blew
• 1:36:40
  up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Yep. Because they're
• 1:36:43
  claiming, and look, for my, okay, the official
• 1:36:47
  story that they were running with is that Skipper
• 1:36:52
  Gilligan and a few bros were having a drinking.
• 1:36:55
  It's a tale of a tiny ship. Yeah, they were a
• 1:36:57
  tiny ship. But before they got to the point that
• 1:36:59
  they tried to say that, well, Zelensky didn't
• 1:37:02
  have anything to do about it, per se, that this
• 1:37:05
  was illusioning, and that they came up after
• 1:37:07
  having a drunken night, decided that they were
• 1:37:09
  going to blow up the pipeline. Meaning that the
• 1:37:12
  story. isolate Zelensky from it, to make it as
• 1:37:15
  if, okay, Zelensky didn't have anything to do
• 1:37:16
  with it. This was somebody else. Somebody else
• 1:37:19
  was paying for it and funding it. And they decided
• 1:37:22
  to go out on the ship, the SS Minnow. And it
• 1:37:24
  was just a few bros. And they decided to somehow
• 1:37:28
  cut Nord Stream Pipeline. Like, the story is
• 1:37:32
  absurd. Like, where did you get the explosives?
• 1:37:35
  When did you get the time frame in order to do
• 1:37:37
  this? When did you get the experts of divers
• 1:37:39
  and other ships that were around to support the
• 1:37:41
  divers as they were going around and blowing
• 1:37:43
  up a pipeline? Right. But they're trying to act
• 1:37:47
  like any random Ukrainian bros could have just
• 1:37:50
  done this. OK, so they have them on trial. Now,
• 1:37:54
  I guess I would make the point to anybody with
• 1:37:57
  a brain and with ears that when Joe Biden comes
• 1:38:01
  out and Joe Biden says that the Russians go in.
• 1:38:04
  That pipeline is going to stop. And the reporter
• 1:38:07
  asked, well, wait a minute, sir, that's not your
• 1:38:09
  pipeline. How are you going to do that? And he
• 1:38:11
  said, we'll do it. And then they go to Schultz,
• 1:38:14
  the chancellor, and they look at him and like,
• 1:38:17
  that's a German property that the president of
• 1:38:21
  the United States is claiming he's going to do
• 1:38:24
  something about. Right. The Russians go in, the
• 1:38:27
  pipeline blows up. And then their first response
• 1:38:30
  was, well, Russians obviously blew up the pipeline.
• 1:38:32
  It's like, whoa, whoa. Because who wouldn't blow
• 1:38:35
  up their own pipeline? Who wouldn't blow up their
• 1:38:37
  own infrastructure, right? And then my thing
• 1:38:40
  is like, okay, everybody heard Joe Biden said
• 1:38:42
  this at a press conference. And you will play
• 1:38:44
  the clip. I'd play the clip over and over and
• 1:38:46
  over and over again. Because I tried to make
• 1:38:48
  the point of saying, okay, is Joe Biden a psychic?
• 1:38:50
  How did Joe Biden know that the pipeline was
• 1:38:54
  going to blow up if the Russians went into Ukraine?
• 1:38:57
  They never explained that. They never said Joe
• 1:38:59
  Biden had remote viewers. Joe Biden had psychics
• 1:39:02
  on staff. And rational man says, he obviously
• 1:39:05
  blew it up. Now, didn't UK Prime Minister Liz
• 1:39:10
  Truss call him and say, it's done? It's done.
• 1:39:15
  There's an intercepted, I think by Russia, phone
• 1:39:19
  tap of Truss talking to Biden, basically like,
• 1:39:24
  it's done. Also, Seymour Hersh wrote the best
• 1:39:27
  article on this. These were US divers, trained.
• 1:39:33
  do exactly what they did. Meaning it wasn't just
• 1:39:36
  bros on a weekend trip that decided to go down
• 1:39:39
  and cut a pipeline. That story, the story in
• 1:39:41
  and of itself, it sounds ridiculous. The idea
• 1:39:44
  that any random person could go down and blow
• 1:39:46
  up a pipeline is outrageous. And the ships that
• 1:39:49
  were around - We should talk about the logistics
• 1:39:50
  of this a little bit, right? So, okay, so the
• 1:39:55
  pipeline was blown up at a depth of approximately
• 1:39:59
  180 feet. Now - Bear in mind that recreational
• 1:40:03
  diving is maximized at 130 feet. And that diving
• 1:40:09
  is basically the math of it is exponential. In
• 1:40:13
  other words, the pressure at 40 feet is not twice
• 1:40:17
  as intense as at 20 feet. It's four times and
• 1:40:20
  so on. And so by the time you get down to 180
• 1:40:24
  feet, even if you were in the clear waters of
• 1:40:29
  the Caribbean on a sunny day, it would be pitch
• 1:40:32
  dark down at 180 feet. The water would be brutally
• 1:40:36
  cold, and you're going to need lamps, and the
• 1:40:41
  pressure is going to be extraordinary. You're
• 1:40:43
  going to need mixed gases to spend any time down
• 1:40:46
  there, and you're going to have to take some
• 1:40:49
  serious precautions in terms of not getting the
• 1:40:52
  bends. You're going to have to take multiple
• 1:40:53
  safety stops on the way back up. But this didn't
• 1:40:58
  take place in the beautiful waters off the Bahamas.
• 1:41:01
  This took place in the North Sea, right? The
• 1:41:04
  water is brutally cold at the surface. That much
• 1:41:08
  colder down there. That much darker down there.
• 1:41:12
  It happened at night. So, you know, you're talking
• 1:41:15
  about people dealing in very adverse conditions
• 1:41:19
  for a considerable amount of time. plant detonation
• 1:41:23
  there was a there was a concrete casement of
• 1:41:26
  the pipeline that had to be pierced in order
• 1:41:29
  to cause this thing to blow up and release the
• 1:41:32
  gas right so you need a lot of bomb you need
• 1:41:35
  a lot of explosives you need and you need to
• 1:41:38
  be able to get away from it right before this
• 1:41:41
  happens so this is like you know according to
• 1:41:45
  everybody knows anything about scuba diving Only
• 1:41:49
  a state actor is capable of having access to
• 1:41:52
  the specialized training and the specialized
• 1:41:55
  high -quality divers who do this kind of work.
• 1:41:59
  One of the members of my family was a member
• 1:42:01
  of the French Navy who did exactly this kind
• 1:42:03
  of work. And he was an elite diver, paid many,
• 1:42:07
  many high into the high six figures. This is
• 1:42:10
  a very dangerous work. um and it's highly specialized
• 1:42:13
  it's not just any jackass even an experienced
• 1:42:16
  dive master can't do this um and then you know
• 1:42:20
  you're gonna need you're gonna also need access
• 1:42:21
  to some serious bang bangs right i mean yeah
• 1:42:25
  and that's not gonna be easy to get so um but
• 1:42:29
  that's the official story um the germans have
• 1:42:32
  have started the trial um they claim that the
• 1:42:36
  uh the villains here uh conducted this plot quote
• 1:42:40
  unquote on behalf of the state authorities in
• 1:42:42
  ukraine um there's just so much here right i
• 1:42:46
  mean like why did germany decide to press forward
• 1:42:49
  with this trial knowing that it's going to obviously
• 1:42:52
  imperil their relationship with ukraine at a
• 1:42:55
  key time why they do that why are they running
• 1:42:59
  with this narrative um which is almost certainly
• 1:43:02
  at best half true right at best and i don't think
• 1:43:07
  it's half true i don't think it's hardly true
• 1:43:09
  at all um you know what is going on here i mean
• 1:43:14
  they have to answer for the fact that a piece
• 1:43:16
  of german architecture was blown up i mean that's
• 1:43:19
  an act of war and it's up the economy too yeah
• 1:43:23
  and it's very weird right that because the argument
• 1:43:27
  is germany is giving money to ukraine that blew
• 1:43:30
  up a pipeline that damaged the economy of germany
• 1:43:33
  like how like how do you continuously give this
• 1:43:38
  corrupt government that blew up a piece of your
• 1:43:39
  architecture more money and more support and
• 1:43:42
  yet that doesn't necessarily seem to register
• 1:43:45
  that both of these things will happen simultaneously
• 1:43:47
  supposedly under this narrative the ukrainian
• 1:43:51
  government in some way worked with these randos
• 1:43:55
  to blow up a pipeline that damaged the integrity
• 1:43:58
  of germany from the standpoint of their ability
• 1:44:00
  to run businesses and those type of things and
• 1:44:02
  it's like however we're still going to give them
• 1:44:05
  money Schultz, not Schultz, still goes walking
• 1:44:10
  through with a 10 % approval rating into Ukraine
• 1:44:13
  at the moment with air bells and everything else.
• 1:44:16
  Like, it's a very strange thing that both of
• 1:44:19
  these things will happen simultaneously. Here's
• 1:44:21
  billions. At the same time, we're putting you
• 1:44:23
  on trial for blowing up our pipeline. Yeah. I
• 1:44:27
  mean, it's so incongruous. I mean, it's very,
• 1:44:31
  very weird. And the story doesn't make sense.
• 1:44:35
  No. You're right about the fact that the story
• 1:44:37
  doesn't make sense. It's like, what are the specialized
• 1:44:42
  skills of the people that they're claiming did
• 1:44:45
  this? And do they have the specialized skills?
• 1:44:48
  Have they shown, demonstrated that they can operate
• 1:44:50
  explosives, they can operate at that level in
• 1:44:53
  depth? Because as you pointed out, it's not just
• 1:44:55
  getting down there. You have to be able to function
• 1:44:57
  down there. plant explosives, blow up the casing,
• 1:45:00
  blow up the pipeline, get away from it, and then
• 1:45:03
  do it in a way that apparently nobody sees it
• 1:45:05
  because these were in natal waters at the moment
• 1:45:07
  where they were having natal tests. I think it
• 1:45:08
  was ball tops tests or something like that. It's
• 1:45:12
  obvious. the us had a role in this if not and
• 1:45:16
  i believe peace on let me read let me read something
• 1:45:19
  to you naval experts from germany sweden and
• 1:45:22
  denmark including lieutenant governor uh commander
• 1:45:24
  of the danish navy and an analyst at the royal
• 1:45:26
  danish defense college obviously a dummy, Jay
• 1:45:30
  Riber scoffed at the idea that a 50 -foot sailing
• 1:45:34
  yacht could be used for such a spectacular attack.
• 1:45:37
  Naval experts point out that even with very skilled
• 1:45:40
  divers, it would be extremely challenging for
• 1:45:43
  the crew of six to place, oh, sorry, at 262 feet,
• 1:45:47
  according to this report, which is like insane,
• 1:45:50
  okay? 80 meters in depth. The explosives needed
• 1:45:54
  to create a 2 .5 Richter scale blast. Danish
• 1:45:58
  and Norwegian engineering newspapers cited this
• 1:46:02
  lieutenant commander that it was not credible
• 1:46:06
  that such a small vessel could be used for the
• 1:46:08
  sabotage. The force of the explosion and the
• 1:46:11
  dispersed debris implies that several hundred
• 1:46:14
  kilograms of explosives were used, an impractical
• 1:46:17
  amount to transport with such a small sailboat.
• 1:46:22
  And surprising the traces of the explosives would
• 1:46:25
  be found on the yacht, since in this case, clearly
• 1:46:28
  no homemade explosive device was used. And placing
• 1:46:32
  the explosives on the pipeline from a small surface
• 1:46:36
  vessel would be practically impossible. This
• 1:46:39
  skepticism was shared by a former chief analyst
• 1:46:42
  of the Danish Defense Intelligence Service, now
• 1:46:44
  a senior analyst in the Danish think tank Europa.
• 1:46:48
  who said that a submarine was clearly used to
• 1:46:51
  place the explosives and pointed out that a sonar
• 1:46:54
  -equipped submarine can, with relative ease,
• 1:46:57
  accurately place a naval bottom mine with about
• 1:47:01
  1 ,000 pounds or half a ton of explosives. That
• 1:47:06
  sounds more right. That just sounds more right.
• 1:47:10
  Whether it's divers, whether it's a sub, whatever
• 1:47:13
  it is, the story that they're selling doesn't
• 1:47:14
  make sense. So they tried to say that it was
• 1:47:18
  an improvised home explosive that blew up the
• 1:47:21
  pipeline. Is that really what they're trying
• 1:47:22
  to argue? Yeah, it's like an IED. That's insane.
• 1:47:28
  That's what I mean, right? The story makes no
• 1:47:30
  sense that they were running with. And the only
• 1:47:33
  reason I think that they would run a story like
• 1:47:34
  this is because the honest answer is the U .S.
• 1:47:37
  did it and they can't acknowledge it. If you
• 1:47:39
  so. They learned it on a TV show. They learned
• 1:47:42
  from television. I bet these guys were plumbers.
• 1:47:46
  Yeah, Israeli plumbers. It's okay. Because they
• 1:47:51
  can do anything, right? Yeah, this is very strange.
• 1:47:55
  Peter Ives says, the next day, Mr. Ann Applebaum,
• 1:47:58
  she's the neocon writer. Poland Foreign Minister
• 1:48:03
  Sikorski posted a thank you America on Twitter
• 1:48:07
  with a picture of the methane bubbling up. Yep.
• 1:48:10
  Because everybody knows who did it. Are these
• 1:48:15
  patsies? I mean, are they going to convict them
• 1:48:18
  and be like, look, we solved it? I mean, I guess
• 1:48:20
  my thing is the moment how does the U .S. president
• 1:48:24
  stand up there and say we are going to stop that
• 1:48:27
  pipeline and then the pipeline blows up and everybody's
• 1:48:30
  like we're bewildered by what just happened.
• 1:48:32
  That blows my mind. Yeah, I'm on Team Cy Hersh
• 1:48:35
  here. The Cy Hersh thing makes sense. Yes. Yeah,
• 1:48:40
  this doesn't make any sense. Anyone who's ever
• 1:48:43
  scuba dived recreationally knows this doesn't
• 1:48:46
  make sense. And by the way, even if Cy Hersh
• 1:48:48
  is wrong, this story still doesn't make sense.
• 1:48:51
  No. Cy Hersh could be wrong, but this is definitely
• 1:48:53
  wrong. This is definitely not true. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:48:58
  And by the way, so what would be the interest
• 1:49:01
  in trying to, since this is obviously a fairy
• 1:49:03
  tale and they're trying to set up these defendants,
• 1:49:06
  are these defendants involved in some way, any
• 1:49:10
  way, but just not the way we're being told? And
• 1:49:13
  then what is the point of trying to say they're
• 1:49:16
  working for the Ukrainian, what did they say,
• 1:49:19
  the Ukrainian state authorities? I mean, it seems
• 1:49:24
  like that. If I remember correctly, though, they
• 1:49:26
  didn't include Zelensky. meaning they carved
• 1:49:28
  Zelensky out of this, if I'm wrong on this. Correct
• 1:49:31
  me if I'm wrong, because I don't know. They may
• 1:49:33
  be coming up with a new story than what they
• 1:49:34
  were coming up with before, meaning they may
• 1:49:36
  come up with a different theory of the case than
• 1:49:38
  what they had prior. Initially, though, in the
• 1:49:40
  reporting was they were trying to exclude Zelensky
• 1:49:42
  from being involved. By the way, what Tara Predowild
• 1:49:45
  says is very important, too. That methane bubbling
• 1:49:48
  up released more global warming gases than anything
• 1:49:50
  else in human history. True. It was a massive
• 1:49:53
  economic environmental disaster. funny enviros
• 1:49:57
  were silent yeah true yeah they really were a
• 1:50:01
  little european i can't wait to have stephen
• 1:50:04
  kinzer the author of boiling point on yeah i
• 1:50:06
  mean this is the best mainstream account of like
• 1:50:11
  the line of we've been sold about supporting
• 1:50:14
  ukraine um that i've ever read i mean you know
• 1:50:17
  you can read this stuff in like stuff you and
• 1:50:19
  i have covered and and and stuff that you know
• 1:50:22
  people like us have written but it's like this
• 1:50:25
  is a mainstream mass market book that you'll
• 1:50:28
  be able to buy at every Barnes and Noble in the
• 1:50:30
  country. And I don't know how they're going to
• 1:50:33
  manage to try to ignore it. Yeah. I mean, look,
• 1:50:37
  what happened in Ukraine is a crime and it's
• 1:50:40
  a catastrophe in a way that is somewhat breathtaking
• 1:50:44
  to really get people's head around. It's a war
• 1:50:47
  that never needed to happen. And I know for myself,
• 1:50:50
  when I was at the radio station and they used
• 1:50:52
  to talk about Nord Stream and initially I didn't
• 1:50:55
  get it. Right. Because it was like Peter Oliver
• 1:50:57
  used to come on it every week. He's talking about
• 1:50:59
  Nord Stream over and over and over again. And
• 1:51:01
  it would kill time. But it was kind of like,
• 1:51:02
  why are we still talking about this fucking pipeline?
• 1:51:05
  And then it's blowed up. Then they blow it up.
• 1:51:08
  And it's like, holy shit, they blew up a pipeline.
• 1:51:11
  And it's like, holy shit, this is a real war.
• 1:51:13
  Like there are people being shot in the face
• 1:51:15
  to the tune of thousands every day or every.
• 1:51:17
  It was such a big economic link between Russia
• 1:51:19
  and Europe. Right. I mean, that's why they had
• 1:51:21
  to get rid of it. they got rid of it but it's
• 1:51:24
  just the fact that they did which gives context
• 1:51:27
  to the changing of the world like that's a big
• 1:51:29
  deal like that's not a minor thing to blow up
• 1:51:32
  a pipeline that is like 100 feet underwater i
• 1:51:36
  think we should continue to watch this when the
• 1:51:38
  try as the trial proceeds and see exactly what
• 1:51:41
  the how they try to frame this yes it would be
• 1:51:43
  very interesting and i would be very interested
• 1:51:45
  in the ukrainians defense yeah maybe we should
• 1:51:48
  try we should try to get someone on I'll reach
• 1:51:51
  out and see if we can get someone more attached
• 1:51:55
  to the trial, maybe a journalist or someone from
• 1:51:58
  the defense team or someone like that. It would
• 1:52:00
  be interesting. Because my first argument would
• 1:52:02
  be, how do you expect us to do that? Yeah, totally.
• 1:52:07
  My argument would be, your story is impossible.
• 1:52:10
  I don't need to prove that I'm innocent. Your
• 1:52:12
  story is impossible. It did not and could not
• 1:52:15
  have happened. Yeah, that would be my story.
• 1:52:18
  You should have come up with a better story.
• 1:52:20
  And yeah, and maybe this is just, hey, we need
• 1:52:24
  to have a trial in order to say that we did something,
• 1:52:26
  not because we want to commit. That could be
• 1:52:29
  that. It's like, oh, it's a mystery who did this.
• 1:52:31
  And it will be a mystery forever. They're insulting
• 1:52:33
  our, they're totally insulting our intelligence.
• 1:52:36
  We have two more stories to cover. Let's do super
• 1:52:39
  earths. So it's time to say that super earths,
• 1:52:43
  super earths are orbiting cooler. K -dwarf stars,
• 1:52:49
  maybe you can explain what a K -dwarf star is
• 1:52:51
  because I don't really understand, could be more
• 1:52:54
  habitable than Earth because they have thicker
• 1:52:56
  atmospheres, stabler climates, and stronger magnetic
• 1:52:59
  shields that would allow complex life to live
• 1:53:03
  longer and become even richer. So there's been
• 1:53:07
  experiments with garden crests, which sprouts
• 1:53:10
  faster under simulated light by K -dwarfs. And
• 1:53:14
  so basically... we might be living in kind of
• 1:53:16
  like a bad neighborhood of the universe. You
• 1:53:19
  know, it turns out we might be in the slums and
• 1:53:21
  we could like, we should, we should follow Elon
• 1:53:24
  and like go to space and get the fuck out of
• 1:53:26
  this place. Shake the, shake the dirt of earth
• 1:53:29
  off our feet and go explore the stars. It could
• 1:53:33
  be worse. We could be living in Mars or Mars.
• 1:53:36
  At one point they were like planet. I had waters
• 1:53:39
  and rivers and lakes and, you know, stuff like
• 1:53:42
  that. what like a million years ago before whatever
• 1:53:44
  happened in the solar system um a kato star if
• 1:53:50
  i'm not mistaken it's just a smaller star like
• 1:53:52
  you know it's like planets have classification
• 1:53:53
  dwarf planets etc etc from my understanding it's
• 1:53:56
  just a smaller star um and for the super earth
• 1:54:02
  thing it's like we haven't even finished up this
• 1:54:04
  earth before moving on to another planet it's
• 1:54:07
  like man we need to start considering the next
• 1:54:09
  place we're going to go after we screw this place
• 1:54:11
  up i mean it's Look, under my assumption, there
• 1:54:15
  is life in the galaxy. There has to be. There
• 1:54:18
  are too many stars, too many planets, for there
• 1:54:19
  not to be. The universe is just such a big place.
• 1:54:22
  Yeah, it's such a big place. I mean, like, there
• 1:54:24
  are more stars than grains of sand on every beach
• 1:54:27
  on Earth. And when you try to process it, like,
• 1:54:29
  how many grains of sand are there on Earth? And
• 1:54:31
  it's like, there are that many stars in the galaxy
• 1:54:32
  plus more, or in the universe plus more. There
• 1:54:35
  has to be. There has to be. It would be weird
• 1:54:38
  if there was, like, you would have to invoke
• 1:54:39
  God in order to say there's nothing else. Very
• 1:54:43
  strange. So will they be super earths out there?
• 1:54:47
  I assume they would be. My assumption is yes.
• 1:54:50
  Will they be super earths with life forms on
• 1:54:52
  it? Yes. I assume they would be. Life has a tendency
• 1:54:56
  to prosper. Life tries in pretty much every environment.
• 1:55:01
  Like volcanic pits. And you have life that are
• 1:55:03
  growing in volcanic pits. And you're like, how
• 1:55:05
  could anything live in temperatures like that?
• 1:55:07
  And yet, they do. So, yeah, I assume. that life,
• 1:55:11
  given any opportunity to grow based upon any
• 1:55:17
  particular dynamic that's sustainable, grows
• 1:55:20
  and happens. I don't know what that looks like.
• 1:55:22
  Should we, now that we've crapped up the Earth,
• 1:55:24
  should we leave and go look for something else?
• 1:55:26
  I think we always should have left. I mean, look,
• 1:55:29
  I think we should have an intergalactic civilization,
• 1:55:32
  but we got to get our shit straight here first.
• 1:55:33
  I don't want wars in space. Yeah. We're headed
• 1:55:37
  that way. We're headed that way, but I don't
• 1:55:39
  want us fighting on the moon. I think things
• 1:55:44
  will crash before they change. And when they
• 1:55:48
  crash, whatever comes after, God willing, is
• 1:55:52
  better than what it is now. Meaning I hope humanity
• 1:55:55
  gets its shit together. And obviously it's going
• 1:55:58
  to take something cataclysmic for it to get its
• 1:55:59
  shit together, but I hope it gets its shit together.
• 1:56:01
  And that's when I want us to go into the stars
• 1:56:03
  as one thing. I mean, look, this is me being
• 1:56:07
  idealistic and maybe even sentimental, but that's
• 1:56:10
  what I would prefer. I don't want us... where
• 1:56:13
  some rando general is like, we need to have wars
• 1:56:15
  on the moon. Okay, for one, I don't want us having
• 1:56:17
  wars in space in general, right? And more to
• 1:56:20
  the point, it is cheaper to have peace. That
• 1:56:23
  doesn't seem to matter. But it's cheaper, like
• 1:56:26
  many, it's easier for me to go to Russia and
• 1:56:28
  China and say, hey, let's make a deal on security.
• 1:56:30
  And in this deal on security, we agree to blah,
• 1:56:34
  blah, blah, blah, blah. In which case, I don't
• 1:56:36
  have to spend money creating weapons in space.
• 1:56:38
  I don't have to spend money creating new nuclear
• 1:56:39
  weapons. I don't have to spend money on this
• 1:56:41
  other shit. I can spend my money in other places.
• 1:56:43
  That's what I would prefer Earth to do. Will
• 1:56:46
  they get to that point? The U .S. does not seem
• 1:56:48
  to be in any mindset for that particular point
• 1:56:50
  of view. The rest of the world, at the very least,
• 1:56:53
  the non -Western world seems to be on that kick.
• 1:56:56
  Why do you think it's the Western world that
• 1:56:59
  seems to be in this mindset of conquest, even
• 1:57:02
  now? I mean, Europe may not be... Europe has
• 1:57:05
  no issue with the US going to war in Iran, short
• 1:57:07
  of the fact that Europe is that energy from that
• 1:57:10
  region. It seems like it's the rest of the world
• 1:57:14
  that is in this mindset of compromise. It seems
• 1:57:17
  like it's the West that's in this mindset of
• 1:57:18
  we need to retain control and authority in the
• 1:57:21
  context of this kind of multipolarity world that
• 1:57:24
  seems to be emerging. I mean, I think it's a...
• 1:57:27
  I think it's a hangover from like the age of
• 1:57:30
  exploration that led to colonialization. And,
• 1:57:33
  you know, and I think it's a colonialist mentality,
• 1:57:37
  right? And like the European powers, ironically,
• 1:57:40
  right? Most European countries lived in a pretty
• 1:57:43
  sweet place, like in terms of climate. and soil
• 1:57:47
  and all that like you know the french didn't
• 1:57:49
  have to leave they had great soil great climate
• 1:57:52
  uh you know everything grows there's fish there's
• 1:57:55
  everything all the food you need to eat you're
• 1:57:57
  fine um and like they up and went and decided
• 1:58:01
  to take over big parts of the world and you know
• 1:58:03
  obviously the brits the same you know same thing
• 1:58:06
  and spanish and belgians and so on um i think
• 1:58:09
  it's that same i mean there's one mentality that
• 1:58:12
  anglo -saxons specifically are the most aggressive
• 1:58:16
  i've read this theory by anthropologists are
• 1:58:18
  the most aggressive tribes that have ever existed
• 1:58:21
  in modern in quasi -modern history and that they
• 1:58:25
  just have they're sort of wired to go out and
• 1:58:29
  want to go come go to other places and kill and
• 1:58:33
  rape and steal it's just there it's just there
• 1:58:35
  it's there yeah that may be for whatever particular
• 1:58:40
  reason it may be their jam i don't think i mean
• 1:58:42
  they're just people right sure why why them um
• 1:58:47
  i don't know i mean i think it probably boils
• 1:58:49
  down to because they can or because they could
• 1:58:51
  um and then once you start doing things a certain
• 1:58:54
  way that's just what you get used to i mean i
• 1:58:57
  think the chinese might have been more expansionist
• 1:59:00
  if not for the fact that they were subjugated
• 1:59:02
  and contained for so long that then they had
• 1:59:05
  to learn you know after the during the opium
• 1:59:07
  wars and all that stuff they had to learn basically
• 1:59:10
  like oh like we need to figure out another way
• 1:59:13
  to become powerful. We have to do our own thing
• 1:59:16
  first. And then, you know, they didn't want to
• 1:59:18
  be on the receiving, they didn't want to put
• 1:59:20
  other countries on the receiving end of the same
• 1:59:22
  mentality that oppressed them. You know, I mean,
• 1:59:26
  it's hard to say. I mean, that is a big, like,
• 1:59:29
  Jared Diamond, you know, kind of type question,
• 1:59:33
  right? Like a big fat doorstop of a book could
• 1:59:37
  be written about this question. All right. One
• 1:59:41
  last thing quickly. So. 11 o 'clock. I'm going
• 1:59:46
  to have to close, but. Okay. All right. We'll
• 1:59:48
  close. And what was the thing we were going to
• 1:59:51
  talk about? We were going to talk about. Oh,
• 1:59:53
  I guess we did. We did cover it. Oh, yeah. The,
• 1:59:56
  the airport thing. We can do that tomorrow. Okay.
• 1:59:59
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