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CHARGED: GLAM ‘KETAMINE QUEEN’ SELLS DEADLY DOSE TO FRIENDS MATTHEW PERRY? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Busted the so called glamorous ketamine queen. Did she sell
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  Speaker 2: the deadly dose to beloved friend star Matthew Perry At
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  Speaker 2: this hour, federal indictments going down. I'm Nancy Grace, this
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  Speaker 2: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. Two doctors,
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  Speaker 2: two drug dealers, and Perry's live in assistant charged in
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  Speaker 2: the death of friend star Matthew Perry. Prosecutors claimed the
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  Speaker 2: defendants new Perry was struggling with his addiction, but we're
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  Speaker 2: more concerned with making money than his well being. A
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  Speaker 2: so called kennemy and queen. Let me tell you something, lady.
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  Speaker 2: That birkenbag and all those Gucci clothes.
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  Speaker 1: You're wearing that ain't gonna get you out of this girl.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they don't have Burken and they don't have Gucci
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  Speaker 2: behind bars.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you like the color orange. Get used to it.
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  Speaker 2: This woman living in the lap of luxury on the
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  Speaker 2: backs of drug addicts and likely been doing it for years.
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  Speaker 2: In her rarefied Hollywood environment to all the A list
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  Speaker 2: celebs who are now quaking in their shoes that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be found out next.
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  Speaker 1: You don't think they've got this woman's little black book.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they do. So who is the so.
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  Speaker 2: Called ketamine queen and why is she living off the
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  Speaker 2: misery of others? You know, sometimes people kid themselves into
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  Speaker 2: thinking certain drugs are glamorous, you know, like cocaine or ecstasy,
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  Speaker 2: designer drugs, ketamine.
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  Speaker 1: It's not glamorous.
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  Speaker 2: It ended Matthew Perry under the water, dead in a
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  Speaker 2: hot tub after years of fighting addiction, lying about hiding it,
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  Speaker 2: paying tens of thousands of dollars to rehab only the
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  Speaker 2: best the Betty Ford clinic, to this clinic, to that clinic,
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  Speaker 2: that this specialist covering it up from the world so
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  Speaker 2: he could maintain his Hollywood image. He suffered and died,
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  Speaker 2: and this woman is sitting in her claw foot tub
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  Speaker 2: with a birken bag on her foot.
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  Speaker 1: Woman, you know what, It's not glamorous.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just kick it off right now to doctor
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  Speaker 2: William Maroney.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Maroney, listen to this.
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  Speaker 3: Radio.
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  Speaker 4: One of droning.
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  Speaker 5: Federal prosecutors alleged that Perry first obtains ketemine from an
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  Speaker 5: unscrupulous doctor aiming to take advantage of the actor's addiction issues.
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  Speaker 5: Doctor Salvador Placentia teaches Perry's living assistant, Kenneth Ewa Massa,
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  Speaker 5: how to administer the drug and provides ketamine to both
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  Speaker 5: Perry and Ewa Masa at exorbitant prices. When the drugs
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  Speaker 5: become too expensive, Perry and Ewa Maasa turned to street dealers,
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  Speaker 5: including jazzvin Songha dubbed the ketamine Queen.
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  Speaker 2: You know to doctor William Moroney joining me, renowned medical examiner, toxicologist, pathologist,
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  Speaker 2: opioid treatment expert, and author of American Narcan that would
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  Speaker 2: have saved the life of Prince and so many other
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  Speaker 2: stars and people from opioid overdose, Doctor Moroney, somehow, it's
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  Speaker 2: the misconception is flourished, as it did about Matthew Perry,
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  Speaker 2: that ketamine and other so called designer drugs are glamorous.
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  Speaker 1: They're not.
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  Speaker 2: All of those abusers end up in one place, a
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  Speaker 2: cold slab in your office.
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  Speaker 6: Explain, Ketamine is never really meant to be self administered,
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  Speaker 6: and it's never really meant to be used in a
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  Speaker 6: family setting or an ambulatory setting. It's a hallucinogen, it
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  Speaker 6: causes sedation, and the FDA approved use of.
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  Speaker 7: Ketamine is once a month.
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  Speaker 6: In his last day, according to testimony, three three times.
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  Speaker 6: He was given ketamine injections the day he died. It's
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  Speaker 6: meant to be given once a month under supervision during therapy.
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  Speaker 6: Ketamine is a plan. And this is so out of control.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what. I appreciate all of that.
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  Speaker 2: But what I I asked you, doctor, my longtime colleague
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  Speaker 2: and friend. I asked you, is it Glammar Russ, because
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  Speaker 2: that's the way it's betrayed. Hold on, if you can
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  Speaker 2: see your screen, can you show me the dealer, the
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  Speaker 2: glam ketamine queen, because she makes it all look so good. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen that picture. Do you have another picture you
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  Speaker 2: can show me? Okay, there that right there, How can
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  Speaker 2: you It's hard to look at her and reconcile that
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  Speaker 2: that woman right there, according to prosecutors, according to the state,
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  Speaker 2: has heaped misery and suffering on so many people so
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  Speaker 2: she could line her pockets her right there. Perry is
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  Speaker 2: dead thanks to her, according to prosecutors, and all of
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  Speaker 2: his friends.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't mean that as a play on words.
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  Speaker 2: You've got this longtime friend, living assistant giving him the dope.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is. Dope.
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  Speaker 2: Until he dies, everybody knew he was struggling with addiction.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody knew that. Does this woman care? No, no drug
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  Speaker 1: dealer cares. What does it do to a person, doctor.
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  Speaker 6: Morony, Well, at higher doses than needed, it sedates you,
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  Speaker 6: It drives your heart rate up, It can give you
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  Speaker 6: a rhythmias that make you susceptible to sudden death, and
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  Speaker 6: it prevents.
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  Speaker 7: You from moving.
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  Speaker 6: Because it's an anesthetic, nothing can change the classification. It's
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  Speaker 6: called a dissociate of anesthetic. Why would anybody take an anesthetic?
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  Speaker 6: You can't think, you can't move, and eventually you can't breathe.
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  Speaker 7: So the whole problem.
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  Speaker 6: Is people think they can get away with it. These
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  Speaker 6: people are sold the idea that this is the answer.
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  Speaker 6: At one point, it could have been heroin, It could
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  Speaker 6: have been cocaine, could have been alcohol, stitutamine, and they say, okay,
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  Speaker 6: when you need more, give me a call after one shot.
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  Speaker 7: Eventually you need to.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, doctor Moroney, because that's exactly what happened right here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to drink in everything you're saying. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: a tryal lawyer. You're the professional, the toxicologist, the pathologist,
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  Speaker 2: and you've even written the book about use of opioids
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  Speaker 2: and drugs and how to save people's lives to doctor
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  Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall, Doctor Bethany Marshall, Finally somebody brings down the
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  Speaker 2: hammer on this drug operation.
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  Speaker 1: And this is not, according.
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  Speaker 2: To sources, the first person that has lost their lives
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  Speaker 2: to the Please very people, listen, doctor Bethany.
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  Speaker 8: The two lead defendants in this case are defendants Salvador
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  Speaker 8: Placentia and defendant Jesseviine Sanya. Defendant Placentia was a medical doctor.
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  Speaker 8: He worked with another medical doctor, defendant Mark Chavez, to
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  Speaker 8: obtain ketmy. He then worked with mister Perry's live in
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  Speaker 8: assistant defendant Kenneth Iwamasa to distribute that ketamine to mister Perry.
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  Speaker 8: Sonya and the broker defendant Fleming saw this as an
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  Speaker 8: opportunity to profit off of mister Perry. She sold approximately
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  Speaker 8: fifty vials of ketamine for approximately eleven thousand dollars in cash.
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  Speaker 8: She worked with a broker defendant, Eric Fleming, and also
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  Speaker 8: the live in assistant defendant Iwamasa to distribute this kedemy.
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  Speaker 1: A tangled web of dopers, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall is joining us a high profile psychoanalyst
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  Speaker 2: author of deal Breaker Doctor Bethany.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of all the.
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  Speaker 2: Drug lords and dopers that I have prosecuted put behind
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  Speaker 2: bars over all the years. You know, this woman we're
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  Speaker 2: looking at, there's so glamorous and her high end lifestyle.
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  Speaker 2: She had just traveled to Tokyo, Europe, all over the world.
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  Speaker 2: Have you, Bethany, did you grow up on a farm
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  Speaker 2: you went with your parents all around the world as
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  Speaker 2: a missionary?
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  Speaker 1: Correct?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, grew up.
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  Speaker 9: In Central West Africa, Congo.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, then you've seen a tick.
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  Speaker 2: I assume you know bloods Absolutely, yes, that's who she is.
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  Speaker 2: Every time I look at her, I see a tick,
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  Speaker 2: and they get bigger and fatter as they suck the
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  Speaker 2: blood of their victim.
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  Speaker 1: And that is what.
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  Speaker 2: She was doing with Matthew Perry. And I guarantee you
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  Speaker 2: he's not the first.
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  Speaker 9: You know, she was going out selling one more vile
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  Speaker 9: and one more vile to go out and buy one
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  Speaker 9: more Airmeas bag or Gucci pair of shoes, or you know,
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  Speaker 9: she was just really satisfying her own greed. And what
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  Speaker 9: makes me so sad, Nancy, is that people suffering from
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  Speaker 9: some substance abuse disorders are extraordinarily vulnerable. Matthew Perry was vulnerable.
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  Speaker 9: He was chasing that next high. His brain was craving
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  Speaker 9: the addiction. He had a long history of substance abuse disorder.
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  Speaker 9: And by the way, so do About fifteen percent of
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  Speaker 9: all Americans over the age of twelve have suffered from
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  Speaker 9: a substance abuse disorder in this past year.
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  Speaker 1: Can you say that again? I thought I didn't hear
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  Speaker 1: you correctly.
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  Speaker 9: What more than fifteen percent of all Americans over the
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  Speaker 9: age of twelve have suffered from a substance abuse disorder
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  Speaker 9: in this past year. Of those Americans, only six point
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  Speaker 9: seven percent of them ever received.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to this, everybody, Mike McCormick joining me, owner, lead
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  Speaker 2: investigator mcmm mother c Charlie m Mother Investigations, former LAPD
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  Speaker 2: over twenty five years.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to this, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: It is reported that the Ketamine Queen supplied twenty five
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  Speaker 2: vials of ketamine four days to Parry just four days
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  Speaker 2: before his death, and boasted as she.
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  Speaker 1: Sold it to him as it being a high.
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  Speaker 2: Quality drug, adding it's unmarked, but it's amazing now. Immediately
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  Speaker 2: after his death, is reported she messaged her co conspirators,
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  Speaker 2: according to the state, stating delete all our messages, and
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  Speaker 2: then she goes off on a whirlwind tour I think
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  Speaker 2: it was Japan, but flying off on a private jet,
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  Speaker 2: laid all your messages, destroy the evidence she knew. She
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  Speaker 2: knew Mike McCormick. And there's no way in huble l
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  Speaker 2: that there's not a string of other Hollywood celebs that
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  Speaker 2: are her clients.
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  Speaker 10: That's true. It's going to be probably a lot more
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  Speaker 10: suspects brought into this death of Matthew Perry as time
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  Speaker 10: goes by. I don't think it's limited to just the
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  Speaker 10: amount of people that have been in the news in
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  Speaker 10: the last few days. I think there's going to be more.
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  Speaker 10: I think the assistant Kenneth definitely didn't do his job.
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  Speaker 10: He should have. He should have brought in the family
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  Speaker 10: members and made them aware of what the extent of
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  Speaker 10: the problem is. And we have been able to actually
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  Speaker 10: save Matthew from this situation, from dying of an overdose,
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  Speaker 10: you know.
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  Speaker 2: But instead of trying to save him, Mike, everyone enabled
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  Speaker 2: him with friends like those I mean listen.
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  Speaker 11: Perry turned to a street dealer, Eric Fleming, who sourced
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  Speaker 11: his ketymine from a drug trafficker known as the ketemine
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  Speaker 11: Queen Jasvine Sangha. The ketymine supplied by Sanha would ultimately
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  Speaker 11: be the dose that took Matthew Perry's life. Some knew
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  Speaker 11: that the ketamine she supplied could be deadly.
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  Speaker 1: Despite this knowledge.
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  Speaker 11: She continued to sell ketamine and methaphetamine throughout Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: Now joining me, high profile lawyer, former federal prosecutor, Nima Romani,
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  Speaker 2: president West Coast Trial Lawyers, author of.
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  Speaker 1: Harvard to hashtag Nima.
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  Speaker 2: It was slow in coming, but finally the Fed's hand
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  Speaker 2: down a major indictment.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy they did it, But do you.
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  Speaker 2: Think if they had acted earlier, Perry's life could have
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  Speaker 2: been saved and probably the lives of many others well.
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  Speaker 3: Probably man See, let's not forget that Soga was responsible
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  Speaker 3: for another drug related death in twenty nineteen, Cody McKellen,
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  Speaker 3: and it was kedemene that she provided.
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  Speaker 1: That killed them that same day. And the political.
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  Speaker 3: Reality is that they spend a lot more time investigating
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  Speaker 3: this case because of who the victim was. You have
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  Speaker 3: a celebrity victim obviously got a lot of attention, and
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  Speaker 3: that's why you had federal resources as well as local resources.
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  Speaker 3: LAPD put on this case to bring hopefully the perpetrators
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  Speaker 3: to justice.
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  Speaker 8: They distributed approximately twenty vials of ketamine to mister Perry
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  Speaker 8: in exchange for fifty five thousand dollars in cash. Defendant
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  Speaker 8: Placentia saw this as an opportunity to profit off of
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  Speaker 8: mister Perry. He wrote in a text message in September
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  Speaker 8: twenty twenty three, quote, I wonder how much this moron
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  Speaker 8: will pay. He also stated in text messages that he
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  Speaker 8: wanted to be mister Perry's sole source of supply. He
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  Speaker 8: wrote in a text message that he wanted to be
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  Speaker 8: mister Perry's quote go to for drugs.
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  Speaker 12: I wonder how much this moron will pay? Let's find out.
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  Speaker 12: Text messages reveal the motivation of those charged in Matthew
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  Speaker 12: Perry's death.
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  Speaker 2: Joining us right now, Lauren Colin, investigative reporter and star
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  Speaker 2: of Crime Time on YouTube, Lauren Colin.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: So who while they're literally killing him like a tick,
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  Speaker 2: just sucking his blood, taking his money as they know
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  Speaker 2: his condition is quote spiraling out of control. They that
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  Speaker 2: their communications not me, their words not mine.
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  Speaker 1: They actually call him a moron.
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  Speaker 2: Matthew Perry, who was a child tennis prodigy who goes
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  Speaker 2: to LA and lands on his.
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  Speaker 1: Feet, ending up with the role of a lifetime on friends.
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  Speaker 1: That that moron who said.
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  Speaker 13: That, Lauren Conlin, Yes, this is doctor Salvator Placentia who
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  Speaker 13: said this, And Nancy, let's not forget that. Sixteen days
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  Speaker 13: before Matthew Perry's death, Salvator Placentia shot up Matthew Perry
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  Speaker 13: with a very large dose of ketamine, which caused Matthew
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  Speaker 13: Perry to freeze up, and doctor Placentia said to Kenneth Ewamasa, hm,
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  Speaker 13: we better not do that again. Well, we know that
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  Speaker 13: that was not the case, and just very quickly Nancy
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  Speaker 13: going back to jazz Beene Sangha as Mima said. She
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  Speaker 13: was found to be responsible for the twenty nine nineteen
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  Speaker 13: death of a thirty three year old young man, Cody
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  Speaker 13: mclory in LA and also Matthew Perry was said to
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  Speaker 13: have met her in rehab along with Brooke Mueller.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, speaking of Matthew Perry quote freezing up listen.
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  Speaker 8: Defendant Placentia knew full well the danger of what he
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  Speaker 8: was doing. In fact, on one occasion he injected mister
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  Speaker 8: Perry with kenmine and he saw mister Perry freeze up
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  Speaker 8: and his blood pressure spike. Despite that, he left additional
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  Speaker 8: vials of ketamine for defendant Iwamasa to administer to mister Perry.
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  Speaker 8: Of course, defendant Ewa Masa had no medical training to
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  Speaker 8: speak of.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor William Maroney joining me, renowned toxicologist and pathologist, author
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  Speaker 2: of American Narcian who has devoted his career to fighting
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  Speaker 2: opioid and substance abuse. Doctor Moroney, I've heard it stated
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  Speaker 2: in several publications and several points of evidence.
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  Speaker 1: That they had observed or knew.
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  Speaker 2: Of Matthew Perry quote freezing up. I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 2: that means, but it didn't stop them from giving him
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  Speaker 2: nearly thirty miles of ketamine just before his death.
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  Speaker 6: What it actually comes down to is ketamine is an anesthetic.
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  Speaker 6: So if you give too much, you don't just relax somebody.
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  Speaker 7: They do freeze up.
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  Speaker 6: You freeze somebody up at the side of their pool
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  Speaker 6: or in their kitchen. You don't have a crash cart,
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  Speaker 6: you don't have anything else. You just have to wait
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  Speaker 6: it out or possibly call nine to one one. They
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  Speaker 6: were lucky that they didn't kill him earlier. But the
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  Speaker 6: end result is the same because of the disregard for life.
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  Speaker 6: As they gave him more, he became more dependent. And
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  Speaker 6: then the final day when he died, he got three injections.
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  Speaker 6: This is a drug proved to get once a month
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  Speaker 6: from a psychiatrist, and they were giving it daily, which
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  Speaker 6: is more dangerous than anything.
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  Speaker 2: Back to him freezing up. That is what going into
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  Speaker 2: a seizure.
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  Speaker 6: What is that muscle stiffness and the early stages of anesthesia.
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  Speaker 6: Anesthesia making him fall asleep on purpose, because that's how
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  Speaker 6: we use it when we take people to surgery.
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  Speaker 1: How exactly did the scheme work?
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  Speaker 14: Listen, Doctor Salvador Placentia obtains ketamine for Perry from doctor
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  Speaker 14: Mark Chavez. Chavez writes a fraudulent prescription for an unwitting
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  Speaker 14: patient and lies to wholesale ketamine distributors to obtain both
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  Speaker 14: liquid and lozenge forms of ketamine for doctor Placentia, who
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  Speaker 14: in turns dispenses them to Perry on at least seven occasions,
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  Speaker 14: despite noting Perry's addiction is quote spiraling out of control.
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  Speaker 14: When Placentia is ord to turn over Perry's medical records,
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  Speaker 14: the doctor falsifies and alters several reports to show a
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  Speaker 14: purported treatment plan for Perry.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, back to Lauren Conlin joining us from Prime Time
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  Speaker 2: Crime on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren, So let me understand this.
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  Speaker 2: They state amongst themselves that his addiction is spiraling out
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  Speaker 2: of control.
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  Speaker 1: Their words, not mine, but they.
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  Speaker 2: Continue and they call it a treatment plan.
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  Speaker 1: Why did they name it a treatment plan?
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  Speaker 2: Sang Hay is just basically a dope dealer, just like
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  Speaker 2: a doper on the street that a couple of blocks
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  Speaker 2: from the elementary school. She's no different. So what was
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  Speaker 2: the so called treatment plan?
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  Speaker 13: This is absolutely absurd, Nancy. And let's not forget that
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  Speaker 13: Matthew Perry just started working with these doctors a month
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  Speaker 13: prior to his death, So this quote unquote treatment plan,
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  Speaker 13: it was all made up. They literally just did this
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  Speaker 13: for money. And it also was stated in the press
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  Speaker 13: conference that these doctors were selling him vials that they
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  Speaker 13: paid twelve dollars for for two thousand dollars. And Kenneth
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  Speaker 13: Ewamasa confirmed with the LAPD and the DEA that the
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  Speaker 13: three days before Matthew Perry's death, he was administering between
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  Speaker 13: six and eight doses of kenymine a day. And you know,
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  Speaker 13: like doctor Moroney said, the last day he was alive,
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  Speaker 13: he had three, but the days leading up to it
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  Speaker 13: it was between six and eight doses.
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  Speaker 1: And if the.
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  Speaker 13: Doctors prescribed that, oh boy, I would be shocked.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, the price differential.
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  Speaker 2: You can get the same amount of ketamine on the
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  Speaker 2: street for twelve bucks, and he's paying two thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: for one vial, Doctor Bethany, speaking of blood sucking ticks.
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  Speaker 1: Not only do.
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  Speaker 2: They aid him, enable him to his own death, but
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  Speaker 2: they make fun of him, overcharging him, gouging him. But
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  Speaker 2: then they call him names and make fun of how
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  Speaker 2: much he will pay.
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  Speaker 9: In their text, Nancy, they had disregard and disdained for them,
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  Speaker 9: But who are the morons? They killed their cash cow
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: in one month and now they're going to spend years
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: behind bars. So I think what really upsets me about
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: the situation. I'm thinking about a very wealthy patient in
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: my Beverly Hills practice struggling with addiction, and everybody tried
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: to provide drugs for him. I would get him into rehab,
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: then all of a sudden, the house manager would come
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: in and just leave drugs around the house. He would
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: get rid of the house manager, then he would get
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: a new girlfriend who then would addict and hook them again,
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: so he would take her shopping for jewelry. I mean,
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: he was a mark sitting out there in society because
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: of his substance abuse. So people who have these horrible
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: addictions like Matthew Perry, the people around them are bloodsucking
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: ticks to attract a whole network of people who just
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: see dollar signs all over the place, and they do
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: not care about the patient. Did you notice that picture
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: of doctor Placentia has UCLA Healthcare on his lab jacket,
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: UCLA on his lab coat. There it is a UCLA
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: health system. So under the guise of being a medical expert,
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: of caring of the oath of do no harm, he
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: is actually extracting money from somebody, worsening that person's addiction,
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: knowing that that person's going to die, and so stupid
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: and more on it. He thinks he's not going.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: To get caught.
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: One doctor notes Matthew Perry's addiction as spiraling out of control.
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: Still Perry is sold twenty mials of ketamine, totaling fifty
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: five thousand dollars.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Finally, federal indictments go down. I'm thrilled about the indictments,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: But I wonder if they had been handed down against
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: this as I'm calling them blood sucking ticks that lived
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: off Matthew Perry and others. If it had happened earlier,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: could his life and others have been saved? Right now,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad the charges occurred. Now we're talking about
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: other potential victims.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Listen, Doctor Salvador Placentia's exorbitant prices pushed Matthew Perry to
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: seek a new ketamine source. Assistant Kenneth Ewa Massa reaches
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: out to several street dealers. Eric Fleming agrees to a
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: deal and turns to his supplier, Josvin Songhaw for ketamine
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: from her North Hollywood stash house. Fleming pays Songhaw from
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: the drugs with cash from Ewa Masa. Songha is well
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: aware of the dangers of ketamine. One of her previous buyers,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Cody mclory, died of an overdose on the drug four
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: years earlier.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: We were just talking about a guy named Cody mcclauri.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Also dead.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Jazzvien Songha sells Cody mclowery several vials of ketamine. Later
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: that same day, mclowry's family finds him dead. A family
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: member tells Sogha her ketamine caused mclowry's overdose death, and
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Songha google's can ketamine be listed as a cause of death? Nevertheless,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Songhak continues peddling ketamine and other drugs from her stash house.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: You know that's the thing, Doctor William Maroney, renowned toxicologist
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Dr Maroney.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Dopers don't care.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: The family goes to sing y'all and says, you did
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: this to Cody, and she's like, oh okay, Google, Google, Google,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: can kennymy be listed as a cod not? Oh my stars,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I'm never doing this again. It's how this horrible effeke.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Cody is dead.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: No, she just wants to find out is basically she
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: gonna be implicated and the death of Cody McLaury se
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: jets off to Japan with burken bags on both arms.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: I mean really, Ketamine is listed as cause of death
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: all across America. Fentanyl is listed as a death cause
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: of death all cause America. Methanphetamine. We're very specific about
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: cause of death. We mention the chemical if it's a chemical,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: and we mentioned the medicine if it was prescribed and
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: it was ethical. There are five manners of death, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: his death is considered an accident because the CDC says
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: drug overdoses are accidents. But we'll have to see if
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: in a court that's a different definition that it was
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: caused because somebody else did the injections.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: So there's a play between the picate.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: Clearly, always ketamine will be listed as a cause of death.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: Always name it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Romani, former federal prosecutor turned trial lawyer Nima Why is
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it that all the so called rich, glamorous people get
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: sweetheart deals?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Why is that if there is a.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Sweetheart deal on this bloodsucking tick song.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm going to do a backflip. You've got Cody McLaury.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: That we know of, and now Matthew Perry. Well are
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: they going to kind of deal with this woman?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, Nancy. Like I said, there's two
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: drug related deaths, and it's not just the ketamine we're
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: talking about, which is a Schedule three And even though
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: because death as a fifteen year max it's not methamphetamine,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: there are very significant sentence in guidelines. So because of
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the myth, which is scheduled too, she's looking at a
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: potential life sentence. If the fence cut her a deal,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: it's only because she's going to identify her source. I
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: don't think that was medical grade ketamine. And obviously we
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: know in drug cases prosecutors they.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Want to work their way up the chain.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Kennemine is a huge problem in LA right now.
• 28:13
  Speaker 12: Perry's live in assistant admitted to repeatedly injecting the actor
• 28:18
  Speaker 12: with ketamine without medical training, and administered multiple injections. The
• 28:25
  Speaker 12: very day Perry died.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: One celeb after the next dead from overdose, probably drugs
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: given to them by friends.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Listen to this now heard.
• 28:40
  Speaker 15: How are you doing it? In security? From burdle Hilton
• 28:42
  Speaker 15: h right, what going on? I need a paramedic fently.
• 28:43
  Speaker 15: I've got a forty six year old femail. I'm found
• 28:45
  Speaker 15: in the bathroom to follow God right now, but they're
• 28:47
  Speaker 15: requesting paramedic. Okay, panel fell about them? I love Rimscannal.
• 28:50
  Speaker 15: I'm not sure she fell. She was in the bathroom
• 28:52
  Speaker 15: with the water four four three four. I'm sorry. We
• 28:55
  Speaker 15: had a room four three fourth fieen, Okay, they're not
• 28:57
  Speaker 15: us or anything else.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: That's room four three yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 15: Okay, we don't know if she was contract of breathing
• 29:02
  Speaker 15: at all. Apparently she wasn't breathing and she's y six
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: year old. She was not breathing.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Whitney Houston, that's a nine to one one call.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Found in a luxe hotel submerged in water? Why because
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: of drugs? And there's so many others. Amy Winehouse a
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: brilliant shooting star dead. Of course, Anna Nicole Smith. All
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: of her friends fed her drugs, drugs, drugs until the
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: very end, leaving behind children. Chris Farley, the funny guy.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Everybody loves Farley, people took advantage of him until he
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: was dead. Heath Ledger, the joker, leaving behind a little girl.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Of course, let's just start at the beginning with this guy.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: He had a fishing tackle box full of drugs? Who
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: gave him that? Janice Jotham, what a star od And
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of course no loose is complete without him. Belushi the
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: ultimate funny guy, Little Peep, just don't forget him. Kurt
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Cobain Nirvana leaving behind Francis Bean and of course one
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: of the biggest stars ever, Michael Jackson like just a brilliant,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: burning talent dead, and of course my favorite Prince he
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: could have lived if he had been given a narcan injection.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: That didn't happen.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Everyone stood by, lived off his money and kept feeding
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: him drugs. We were Phoenix gone so young, de viperome.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Of course, Whitney voice like an angel. Vern Troyer, you
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: can't help but love this guy wrestler China. It just
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: we don't even have enough time to go through all
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the celebrities that have lost their lives, not just because
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: of drugs, but because of a tight little circle.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Of so called friends.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And back to Mike McCormick joining US owner lead investigator
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: mcm Investigations, former LAPD over twenty five years at mcminvestigations
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: dot com.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Mike, that's the way it is in Hollywood, and the.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Beat goes on the day after Matthew Pierry's dead. Everybody's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: getting their supplies from their friends. It it never ends.
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: It never ends because of the suppliers and the people
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: involved walk the drugs. I don't know how I ended.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: You know too, Doctor Bethany Marshall joining US renow psychoanalyst.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: You would think that after Cody McLaury was killed that
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the so called ketamine queen I go you know, what.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It's not worth it. How many more birking bags do
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I need? How many more private planes do I need
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: to take.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: To Japan or Europe? It's not worth my clients dying.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It didn't stop her.
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: Why, Nancy, she's homicidal. I mean, we really have to
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: think about that. That one picture where she has the
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: red lipstick, black T shirt, straight hair. Do you know
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: what it says, rip on her T shirt rest in peace
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: with a picture of Kobe Bryant underneath. I mean, perhaps
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: it's just I don't know. I design her T shirt
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: right there, rip cross guy with black classes. It tells
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: me that on some levels, she really knew what she
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: was doing. She's wearing her crime. She's wearing her intention.
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: That watch that beautiful top, that Airmes bag, you know
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: that is the blood of her clients. The blood of
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: her clients, Nancy. I think it's easy to glamorize along
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: with her, that she has these beautiful outfits in the
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: shoes and this, that and the other. She has sucked
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: this money.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: As so many people do with addicts out.
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: Of her client to their death. This even happens in
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: the homeless population, Nancy, where family members will addict homeless
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: people so that they can take their SSI checks. It
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: happens from high to low, low to high, all over
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: the place.
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: According to Matthew Perry, he had been cleaned for nineteen months,
• 33:42
  Speaker 16: but The Daily Mail reports the actor died from an
• 33:45
  Speaker 16: overdose of the party drug ketamine. According to the autopsy report,
• 33:49
  Speaker 16: a detective who attended the scene of Perry's death said, quote,
• 33:53
  Speaker 16: during my investigation, no alcohol, elicit drugs or drug paraphernalia
• 33:57
  Speaker 16: were found unquote. The Daily Mail also claims the fifty
• 34:00
  Speaker 16: four year old was getting injections of the male hormone testosterone,
• 34:04
  Speaker 16: and an unnamed female associate claimed the injections were causing
• 34:07
  Speaker 16: him to be angry and mean for the last couple
• 34:10
  Speaker 16: of weeks.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Doctor William Maroney, if you could put this in regular
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: people talk in a nutshell. I've read your autopsy reports
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: like one sentence can be two paragraphs.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Boil it down, Boil it down.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: So Matthew Perry took the ketamine and then he goes
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: into a euphoric sedation state.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And his body can't fight back. When he goes under
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the water.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: There's high dose and lotos. You start going into sedation
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: and euphoria, but it doesn't stop as the dose builds
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: up in you. That's where you go into frozen muscles.
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: You can't breathe, your body locks up, because that's what
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: it's really meant to do as an anesthetic.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: It is a.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Pros so a euphoric sedation.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: And you I wonder if he could feel himself going
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: underwater and there was nothing he could do about it,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: or look there he is in the hot tub. To
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Nima Romani, high profile lawyer, listen to this Songha was
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: a quote large volume drug dealer and in the complaints
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: we find out that she would sell ketamine lollipops as
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: an ad on.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Because his orders were so large.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Now, after seizing her phone, police apparently have found footage
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: of her on her phone. That's pretty arrogant cooking up ketamine.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: She has videoed herself cooking.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Up ketamine and it just you know, there's pictures she
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: posts online, for instance, of her in a private jet
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: having caviat and champagne. Just before her arrest, she was
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: sharing photos on Insta of her with her knee purple hairdoo.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Just she could not have cared less well.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: The answered she's on a strip of hole there with
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: a money gun. But you know you're right, Kennymine is
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: a big time party drug here in Hollywood, and it's
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: not given with an ivy at a party.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: So what is.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Typically done is users are addicts to cook it and
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: they transform it into a white, powdery substance like cocaine.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: So when you said folks are sniffing each other at
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: these parties, they're sniffing cocaine and kenemine and not each other.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's even put in a nasal spray, but that's
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: primarily how it's used and abused in the party scene here.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: So the fact that Sanga is one of the world's
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: dumbest criminals who's videotaping herself processing these types of drugs
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: isn't surprising because I've seen criminal defendants do all sorts
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: of stupid things.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of hard to take in her
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: and her glamour lifestyle, and you juxtapose that against Matthew
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Perry feeling himself going underwater and he's so immobile he
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: can't fight back. But doctor Bethany Marshall on Insta, this
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: woman posts herself enjoying caviar in a private jet lounge
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: just after Perry dies, she's sipping leechy martinis at the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Mandarin Oriental in Tokyo, each suite about two thousand dollars
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a night. A few weeks after that, she's sunning herself
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: by a pool and playa Del Carmen in Mexico, sharing selfies,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: drinking more cocktails. It goes on and on and on.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: When she finally touches back down. In the US, she
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: was lapping up the La lifestyle, having ivy drips and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: lake night parties.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: End quote.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Sound healing sessions helped me out, Doctor Bethany.
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: Sounds very la to me. You know, she was corrupted
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: by greed and lack of concern for others. But Nancy,
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: we see this with Big Pharma. We see this with
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: the Sackler Family show.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: Let's throw them on.
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: The trash heap of people who have become so greedy
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: and their lives got so big, and they earned billions
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: of dollars, and because of that, they did not care
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: about the millions of Americans who died. These people who
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: used drugs to have control over others, it's like they're stealing.
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: It's like they're creeping through a window in another person's house.
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: Taking the diamonds out of the safe going and just
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: gloating over the diamonds that they've gotten. They don't care
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: about the house, they don't care about the people in it,
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: they don't care about the neurobiology of addiction, and they
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: don't really care about the wave of devastation that goes
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: outward and this person's life. Matthew Perry had many people
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: who love him. The public love him, we love him,
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: we're talking about him today. But their children, nieces, nephews, parents, cousins,
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: church members of people he was doing business with. It's
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: wid spread devastation.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: That you know.
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: Sonier really didn't really care about that. She just wanted
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: to lead you, Martini, and that was it. Talk about
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: again moronic. It really is moronic behavior.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: We haven't even gotten to the doctor, the drug lord
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: posing as a doctor, and as you see La health
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Jacket and all the others involved in Matthew Perry's debut.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: This is where it leaves me. Those people that are
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: charged by the fans.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Finally, they're no different than dopers selling a twenty five
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: dollars rock out on the street, no different.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: They just clean up better. Thank you to all of
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: our guests.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Being with us tonight, highlighting the devastation of addiction. Nancy
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Grace signing off goodbye friend,