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David Benavidez is the New King of Cinco De Mayo · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In this corner, standing at six foot five, weight class
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  Speaker 1: unknowns but hailing from the city of Sands.
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  Speaker 2: Put your hands together for Jamison Wells.
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  Speaker 1: And in this corner, standing at five foot ten, weighing
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  Speaker 1: in at pound and coming to us from his super
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  Speaker 1: secret bunker with no AC in Tucson, Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: Put your hands together for Luis Montemao. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the episode of the Mixed Company Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I'm gonna have the show. I'm Jamison, I'm
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  Speaker 1: drawn by Louise, Louise. What's going on, man, Jameson.
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  Speaker 3: It's been almost a week, but man, I am still
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  Speaker 3: riding high from that David Benavidez fight last Saturday. What
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  Speaker 3: an awesome performance, What an awesome night that I personally
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  Speaker 3: had watching the fight with some friends. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a very Beneveta's heavy episode. But first I just I
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  Speaker 3: want to get your takes on. You know, what, do
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  Speaker 3: you watch the fight at home? Did you go out?
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  Speaker 3: What was your situation on Saturday?
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  Speaker 2: So this fight, I actually watched it from home.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't feel like going out and doing anything else,
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  Speaker 1: kind of tired, so just watched at the crib and
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  Speaker 1: kind of knew what was gonna happen, Like we kind
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  Speaker 1: of had an idea of what it was. But the
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  Speaker 1: thing that was interesting to me is that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Vegas showed out. You know, people came. It wasn't for
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  Speaker 1: a regular May holiday weekend fight. It had buzz. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the normal, but it wasn't like a Canelo buzz,
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  Speaker 1: but it was buzz enough because it wasn't necessarily about
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  Speaker 1: this fight. It was about who was he gonna fight
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  Speaker 1: after this? Like this was almost a four round conclusion. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about the way it was bet hold On.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, all right, well he's gonna walk to
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  Speaker 1: this guy to night, but what's the next right, And
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  Speaker 1: then after he won, it's like, hey, all of Papa
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  Speaker 1: buds are coming out. It's like, all right, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: what happens. But it was an interesting night so to speak.
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  Speaker 1: They did well at the arena. Obviously the fight was
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  Speaker 1: what it was, but also Benavidez is the boogeyman.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's the guy. Uh Dams Crawford retired, he knows
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  Speaker 2: at the other end of his career.
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  Speaker 1: I think Dang Benavidez is the guy that we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be marketing huge fights with it because he's so big, right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: his frame is a heavyweight frame. He's not a middle
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  Speaker 1: where he's not no crew like. He is a heavy like.
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  Speaker 1: You look at his body like he always brought it up.
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  Speaker 1: He looked like a linebacker, like he had long arms,
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  Speaker 1: long towards, so he looked like an athlete, like a
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  Speaker 1: true athlete. That's just something that Canelo doesn't look like.
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  Speaker 1: And Canelo and his party know this was never gonna work.
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  Speaker 1: That was never gonna You could tell why that might
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  Speaker 1: never got made. As saying to Benavidez, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of options for him because he can move up and wait,
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  Speaker 1: he can stay where he's at. I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna move down much, just because there's what they don't
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  Speaker 1: need to. But naturally, his body feels like it can
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  Speaker 1: hold anywhere between one eighty and two hundred fairly easily
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  Speaker 1: while maintaining.
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  Speaker 2: Power and speed and everything. So I'm curious in the
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  Speaker 2: next steps.
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  Speaker 1: But it was a great performance and overall good vibes
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  Speaker 1: will fight.
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  Speaker 3: Before we get into all the details, I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: give a shout out to a friend of the show,
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  Speaker 3: Tony Zamorano, he's been a guest on the show. He
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  Speaker 3: actually co hosted an episode of the show completely in
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  Speaker 3: Spanish with me last week, which was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: And on Saturday, was his birthday, we went out to
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  Speaker 3: let's say, an undisclosed location in Tucson because I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if we were allowed to play pay per views there.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we were given we were given the owners
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  Speaker 3: looking the other way, asked for forgiveness instead of permission
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  Speaker 3: kind of deal. But it was a great vibe. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I had a bunch of Tony's friends there that I
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  Speaker 3: hadn't met, so a group of like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: five or six guys got together to watch the main event.
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  Speaker 3: We ended up putting cash bets on the bar, just
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  Speaker 3: five bucks, ten bucks on benevide. Yeah, so, and just
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  Speaker 3: drinks flowing, you know, everybody U bring home and getting
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  Speaker 3: home safely. But yeah, just joking around, laughing, cheering for
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  Speaker 3: the fight. And there were actually a couple of people there.
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  Speaker 3: There was one guy, I forget his name, but he
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  Speaker 3: said that he loves all sports, but he hadn't watched
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  Speaker 3: boxing in like over ten years, and he was getting
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  Speaker 3: in really getting into it. I'm sure it didn't hurt
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  Speaker 3: that my ass was hooting and hollering all night for
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  Speaker 3: the matches. But it was really cool just seeing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sports fans that aren't boxing fans in the wild and
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  Speaker 3: just kind of seeing, you know, how a really, really
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  Speaker 3: great fight can bring people together. And everybody was super
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  Speaker 3: stoked to it. So a lot of fun, great vibes
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  Speaker 3: and shout out to that venue that you know, gave
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  Speaker 3: us the tacit permission to put the PPV on. Also,
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  Speaker 3: I split the pay per view with my buddy, with Tony.
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  Speaker 3: That's the first time I realized I actually paid for
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  Speaker 3: a pay per view ever in my life. No comment,
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  Speaker 3: no comment, to be fair, To be fair, I've gone
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  Speaker 3: out for fights a lot, A lot of the time.
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  Speaker 3: I go on to Sports Park. Yeah, I pay the cover.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I spend you know, easily over one hundred
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  Speaker 3: bucks on dinner and drinks. So you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a total total scammer.
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  Speaker 2: It all bound it out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly. But you know, sometimes you're at
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  Speaker 3: home and you know, you just you just want to
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  Speaker 3: watch the fight and not go out, So I get you.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, so let's start with what you mentioned about
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  Speaker 3: benavide is at heavyweight. You know, this is something I've
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  Speaker 3: been kind of going back and forth with with commenters
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  Speaker 3: on our TikTok account. Please check us out at Mixed
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  Speaker 3: co podcast on TikTok. The comments there have been popping.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that have been saying, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Benevidez actually should be at heavyweight. That's some people even
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  Speaker 3: criticize him and said he's being a waight bully. He
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  Speaker 3: should be fighting people that are bigger than staying at
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  Speaker 3: light heavyweight or super middleweight. That's something I want to
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  Speaker 3: I want to discuss with you because I'm a little
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  Speaker 3: bit conflicted on that. I mean, yes, he is a
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  Speaker 3: big dude. He is naturally a large guy. He's definitely
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  Speaker 3: a guy who cuts weight. But I've always taken it
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  Speaker 3: as you know, even if he walks around it over
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  Speaker 3: two hundred pounds, he's he's large and he's got a
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  Speaker 3: big frame. But also, like, what could he possibly be
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  Speaker 3: to twenty? That doesn't mean that he's going to fight
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  Speaker 3: a dude who's like to sixty right like or to eighty?
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  Speaker 2: My god, how much does usik way?
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember. Actually, let me see if I can
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  Speaker 3: find it while we're discussing this, but because as the.
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  Speaker 2: Fight that he is getting brought up. But here's it,
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: The reason why it's being brought up because there's no
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  Speaker 1: more fights to make at this current level, at one
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  Speaker 1: seventy five, there's really no other fights to really make.
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  Speaker 2: So with that being said, the.
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  Speaker 1: Money fight, the big money because he's that he can
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  Speaker 1: always where is that not now, he can always go
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  Speaker 1: back to Well, if a Usik fight is there and
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  Speaker 1: that is a megafight, you have to make that fight.
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  Speaker 1: Because one there is no king of the hill in
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  Speaker 1: boxing right now, like the throne is kind of open,
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  Speaker 1: like Tarans Crawford did what he did last year, Now
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  Speaker 1: it's open now. Benavidez, from what we saw last weekend
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  Speaker 1: and just in general and the way things are looking,
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  Speaker 1: he looks like the guys he wants to be king
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  Speaker 1: the hill. He looks like the guys were like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I run this shit. That's what it's looking like to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it shows. So that being said, if he
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  Speaker 1: gets up to two hundred two ten whatever he's comfortable
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  Speaker 1: with and faces Usk and beats Usick, that's the guy
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  Speaker 1: that that's the guy and then it also opens up
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other things too, so I can definitely
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  Speaker 1: see that sooner than later. I know there's been other
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  Speaker 1: you know, interviews to come out with him wanting to
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  Speaker 1: bevall and all that, so we'll see. But I just
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  Speaker 1: think that the end of the day, when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to what's going to bring in the most money, it
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  Speaker 1: just feels like, you know, the Lusik fight is going
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  Speaker 1: to be the one that is like, hey, now we're
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  Speaker 1: we're good financially and legacy wat you move up, you
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  Speaker 1: win that one, your legacy is totally different. And you're
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  Speaker 1: also doing all someone else's time too, because right now
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  Speaker 1: this is technically mc canelo is still fighting, so it's
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  Speaker 1: technically his air or his generation in is sent.
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  Speaker 2: So that's also the ither think about too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and just I did look it up to twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: Was it Usik came in for at the at the
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  Speaker 3: fear of fight, So I think that's doable. I just
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to tell, like what your upper limit is
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to weight, and if you're in that
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  Speaker 3: area where you can go to light heavyweight and then
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  Speaker 3: you know cruiser weight, you keep going up. There's no
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  Speaker 3: limited heavyweight, so like, is it really smart? Is it
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  Speaker 3: something that you do and not everybody's Roy Jones Junior,
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  Speaker 3: who can dominate from okay, well like one to sixty
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  Speaker 3: I think was his lightest and made it all the
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  Speaker 3: way to heavyweight.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I would worry that because Benavidez weighs over
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  Speaker 3: two hundred, that that doesn't necessarily mean he can compete
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  Speaker 3: at over two hundred at heavyweight, And I would worry
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  Speaker 3: about him biting off more than he can chew. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I'll say two things. Number one right now,
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  Speaker 3: I really don't see anybody below heavyweight beating Benavidez. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think I think he would win the Bvoll fight.
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  Speaker 3: I think it would be Jayopataia. But Usik is the
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  Speaker 3: one guy that really really would give Benavidez difficulty in
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  Speaker 3: the bring. I think that is like the most formidable
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  Speaker 3: challenge for him right now. I've said it on here
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  Speaker 3: that my dream fight for the year is Benavitez versus
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  Speaker 3: Beval Dimitri Beval. I still would like to see it.
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  Speaker 3: But bro, when when you said that to the group
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  Speaker 3: chat and they were dangling Benevides versus Usik, I started
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  Speaker 3: like salivating him, like, oh I got excited. So so
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  Speaker 3: you know, based on my own reaction, I one hundred
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  Speaker 3: percent agree with you that that might be the major,
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  Speaker 3: major fight to make. But I don't know. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the the article, the link that I that I saw
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  Speaker 3: said that they were kind of aiming for that for
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven anyway, So it could be that a
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  Speaker 3: Bevo fight has made at the end of this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we get a second half for the
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  Speaker 2: year sometime.
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  Speaker 1: I probably set timber Ish set Timber October is for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I could definitely see that probably back out here in
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  Speaker 1: Vegas again.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a it's.
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  Speaker 1: A very promising event, and you set that up for
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  Speaker 1: the with the USAK matchup some part of the first
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  Speaker 1: half next year, and then that year. That's one of
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  Speaker 1: the faces of boxing right there, because every fight he's
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  Speaker 1: getting into is now a main event.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big deal, and that's what we need.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of guys who do that
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  Speaker 1: right now, but if he's one of them, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna love it.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna love it.
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  Speaker 3: Sure. Let's and let's be clear. I am I've said
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  Speaker 3: I'm a Canela fanboy. I'm also a Benavita's fanboy, but
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  Speaker 3: I definitely want to be sure that i'm you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm being fair here. Uh, but you tell me, Jamison.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen some people still after Saturday saying Benavitez ain't ship,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't imagine any justification for saying that this
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  Speaker 3: guy doesn't got it. You know, you can say maybe
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  Speaker 3: he hasn't faced like the toughest opponents. That's fine, I'll
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  Speaker 3: accept that. But to say that he's just that he's
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  Speaker 3: just not that good, I don't know. I mean, do
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  Speaker 3: you see any any universe in which that could possibly
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  Speaker 3: be true, that he's not the shop.
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  Speaker 2: He's very good. I think people are threatened.
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  Speaker 1: I think when people see that someone else is coming
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  Speaker 1: after their guy is not as good as anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I think people get caught up in their emotions.
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  Speaker 1: So I see is a guy that is getting better
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  Speaker 1: as each fight goes on, and you see his body,
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  Speaker 1: see the way he moves. See a guy it's very
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  Speaker 1: difficult to face because he's not a normal you know,
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  Speaker 1: super middleway.
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  Speaker 2: He's not He's not a normal one sixty eight guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's not a normal He looks like his frame the
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  Speaker 1: way his arms look, with his legs look, he looks
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  Speaker 1: like a heavyweight fighter, like that's the thing. And his
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  Speaker 1: hands were heavy. He's not a pit pit pat guy.
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  Speaker 1: He is throwing blows like he is throwing He's throwing
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  Speaker 1: punches with dangerous intentions. So with that being said, it's
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  Speaker 1: one of those things where it feels like heavyweight is
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  Speaker 1: the spot for him eventually. Just the way his body is,
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  Speaker 1: the way his body's looking, the way he's going to
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  Speaker 1: fill out, it feels that's the natural situation. With that
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  Speaker 1: being said, though I'm not as trainer, I am not
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  Speaker 1: a doctor, I am not him. So if we're going
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  Speaker 1: too far ahead of the game, hope, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: hope we know as quickly as possible. With that being said,
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  Speaker 1: for when I know when I see man, that guy
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  Speaker 1: has a lot of options in the next year or two,
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  Speaker 1: and he has a really big.
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  Speaker 2: Opportunity to stamp his name on the sport.
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  Speaker 3: I think him fighting Bevo would be a challenge. Don't
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  Speaker 3: get me wrong, because Bevo is definitely, you know, a
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  Speaker 3: high low fighter and kind of the same thing as Benavidez.
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  Speaker 3: Has speed and power, and we saw, you know how
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  Speaker 3: we overwhelmed Canelo with those very very fast punches for
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  Speaker 3: a very big dude. Like I said, I still think
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  Speaker 3: Benavidez takes it, but Usik is the one I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it on footwork. Benavitez has not had
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  Speaker 3: the best footwork, hasn't really needed it because of his
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  Speaker 3: style anyway, but Usic is definitely a lot lighter on
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  Speaker 3: his feet. I think, Uh, but I don't know that one.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, I believe it say. I wouldn't at
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  Speaker 3: the moment. I wouldn't say that Benavidez one hundred percent
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  Speaker 3: takes the w against Yet I wouldn't say either way.
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  Speaker 3: I have to really go back and look at the.
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  Speaker 2: Tape, same saying, I would need to review some things.
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  Speaker 1: However, I feel a lot more confident now because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think we've seen the best of ben Avida as yet.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing. I think we're still. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: still on his trajectory up. I don't think we've seen
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's peaked dur Ahim like that. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's still getting better and again his body is still developing.
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  Speaker 2: So all that being said, I think we're in for
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  Speaker 2: a very good situation.
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  Speaker 1: Going forward with a guy that is getting better, he's growing,
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  Speaker 1: he's getting smarter, fighting better everything. I think we have
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  Speaker 1: a very good prospect because a lot of times ends
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  Speaker 1: up happening. A lot of these guys end up peeking
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  Speaker 1: too early, a lot of these guys end up plateauing
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  Speaker 1: in the wrong part of their career.
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  Speaker 2: This is the guy on the rise.
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  Speaker 1: It's only a handful of young guys when me young relative,
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  Speaker 1: young guys on the rise, and we got to appreciate
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  Speaker 1: that guy's really dope to see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I and you know, we'll say
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  Speaker 3: that we the show has bought stocking name of Benavidez early,
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  Speaker 3: so I want to make sure that we put that
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  Speaker 3: out there. Now, let's talk about that elbow. Did you
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  Speaker 3: see the footage so motion of yea, yeah, So I
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  Speaker 3: just to be clear, so right before the knockout when
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  Speaker 3: the hit the ground the second time, took the knee
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  Speaker 3: and his eye was all fucked up. You know, Benavidez
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  Speaker 3: was thrown very fast, hooks, left, the right hooks and
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  Speaker 3: then caught zo with his left elbow. I've watched that
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  Speaker 3: footage and rewounded, you know, easily by now like a
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  Speaker 3: couple over a couple dozen times, like it's my favorite movie,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Suppruder film, studying it little by little,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna say I think I'm of the opinion
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  Speaker 3: that it was definitely a mistake. It was an accident.
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  Speaker 3: Shit happened to the ring. Ben Avetez throws really fast punches.
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  Speaker 3: I've done some sparring, nothing like that, as crazy as
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  Speaker 3: that has happened. But I've actually almost elbowed somebody in
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  Speaker 3: the face kind of putting my arm up to block
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  Speaker 3: a punch, just trying to, you know, just try to
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  Speaker 3: save myself. Because also, just to be clear, I'll say
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  Speaker 3: this every time, I was never that great as sparring,
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  Speaker 3: so uh, but but I've done it, you know, dozens
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  Speaker 3: and dozens of times. Uh, you know, gotten hit on
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  Speaker 3: the back of the head, hit people on the back
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  Speaker 3: of the head, not intentionally head butts. You know, all
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  Speaker 3: that shit that we see in the in fights, you know,
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  Speaker 3: happens in sparring too. And I, you know, never like
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  Speaker 3: I have too much respect for you know, uh, the
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  Speaker 3: sport and for the friends that I that I sparted
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  Speaker 3: with to ever like intentionally do that shit. Like I
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  Speaker 3: would rather fall on the canvas than try to head
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  Speaker 3: butt somebody intentionally to get And yeah, so I think
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: the combination of the combination of Benavita's throwing, the combination
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: is really really fast, uh, swinging those hooks. Plus if
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: you look at the tape, like I said, I was
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: a Zupruter, Uh, focusing on it like the Zuppruter film.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Benavitas gets caught in the face right before that elbow,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: so he kind of like moves back and his left
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: them kind of goes up right right, So he's still
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: in the middle of throwing his flurry of punches, but
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: it gets interrupted. But he sticks to the plan, which
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: is what a boxing coach said to me, is you're
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: gonna get hit, but still stick to the plan if
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: you're whatever it is you're doing, if you're throwing power punches,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: speed punches, et cetera. So I think Benavidez was sticking
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: to the plan even though he got you know, just
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: caught with the cut in the face down the middle.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: And yeah, honestly, you know, But what's your take, I mean,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: do you agree there's a lot of people already online saying, oh,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: he's a cheater, he should have been a disqualification.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: We're not doing all that tonight. We're not doing that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Shit happens and the rain. Things happen where it might
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: look contentional, but it wasn't intent. Like you can tell intent,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing in the box, And you can
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: tell somebody's trying to be dirty and someone's literally just
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: trying to do with their natural form, their natural release,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: their natural punt. You can tell. So if you watch
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: box long enough, you know who's dirty and who ain't.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about anything like that. It happened
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: where we got wet, and also it didn't change the fight,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: so it's not like he was losing. This happened, and
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: you know the results was gonna need the results, right.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: It's not the best thing that could happened. But at
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, Benavidez fought a great fight.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: So people are just picking at this point. I'm just
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: at the point where you know, people just trying to
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: reach for things.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just not I'm just not there with it.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think that had that elbow nothing to do
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: with anything. That wasn't gonna change anything of the fight.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It happens, it's it's you don't play boxing, so these
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: things happened in the sport. With all that being said, Sorry,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: oh well, too bad, my bad, and that's really about it.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Like sorry, yeah, I mean, and you know, I let's
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: all keep in mind, I said, I've done some sparring.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: It's boxing, sparring in a gym with friends where they're
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: not trying to knock you out, where nobody was trying.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: We're going we were going sixty percent every time, and
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: shit like that did happen. You know, Yeah, I have
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: whacked somebody in the back of the head trying to
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: throw a hook and they move their head the wrong way.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: The same thing happened to me, you know, many times.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: It fucking sucks. But now this is the guy that, yes,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: you're this is a fucking monster that is in the
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: ring and his goal is to destroy his opponent and
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: he's gonna go hard like he's he's not holding back
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: like somebody in sparring would. So just yeah, it just
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: makes me gives me all the more reason to think
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: it was a mistake. And plus yeah, I mean, he
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: was already winning, Like there's there's no reason if like
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: you know, Zudua last another one or two rounds that
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna end up the same way with the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: way he was getting caught. Yeah, definitely. The thing too,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: is that Benavitez I mentioned his footwork, but his overall
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: his defense and avoiding punches. After landing a bunch fucking
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: spot on Saturday night. You watch back, you know, you
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: see him like land even just like the Floria, a
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: bunch of different hooks are are jabs and jabs and crosses,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: and then he moves immediately back and Zudo was coming
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: back at him and that shit was missing. But he
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: ua was not landing with as much accuracy by any
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: means based on what I was seeing. So if you
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: see that, if you had that, if that were to
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: continue for another round or two, same thing, Zuda was
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: gonna get beaten down. He was just systematically, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: just crushed. So yeah, I don't definitely I think that
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: it's an excuse for people to hate, and you know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I think people just kind of want to, Uh, people
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: always gonna poopoo everything, right fighters match ups. Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: One thing that we can kind of segue into this
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: next topic is that, uh, one thing I realized that
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I really don't like about the commentary between uh, you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: fans of boxers not boxing boxers, is that they're gonna
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of people are hating him. It and be
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: is because maybe they're fans of Canelo the same thing,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: you know, vice versa. Yeah, yeah, you know you could
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: like both, right, Like, Like I said, I'm a fucking.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And I'll work that way in sports, you got like
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: one of the other.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just a fan, such a fan of the sport
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: as a whole. You know that, I can't really see
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: myself saying, you know, this is my guy, but this
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: guy is not. Because Canelo for whatever, you know, his
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: decision not fight Ben and Vitez. You know, he ducked him.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Yet I'll say he ducked him absolutely, and I'll say
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: this for good reason, was smart to not take that fight.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: We I don't see how Canelo could have could have
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: won that, and I think he saw it as well,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: right am.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I Like it's a bad matchup. This is an overall
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: bad matchup. Agree.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: So if y'all want to go ahead and say, oh, well,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Canelo was scared, Callelo is a coward, Canelo dug that's fine.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna even argue at that point what I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: am saying here is that at uh, there's no reason
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: why I'm gonna be less of a Canelo fan because
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I'm a Ben a Vitas guy or vice versa. Like
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I want to see them both kicking ass in that ring.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I want to see great fights every time either of
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: them gets in gets in, uh through the ropes. So
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: maybe I'm you know, maybe it's a lost cous but
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: maybe putting that positivity for the sport as a whole
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: out there, it can maybe change some minds, change some hearts,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: capture some hearts and minds. But man, you know, we
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: want to see great, great performances in the ring. And
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: don't you know, just write off a dude because you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you you rode with one guy and then another guy
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: is better, is a better fighter than him, is a
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: tougher fighter them, is a younger fighter than him. Like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: it's also not acting, you know, Canelo's just just sucks.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: He's just getting older and he has a shitload of
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: fights behind him.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: He's a different stated to his career, so it's different.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So you're not going to take along certain challenges at
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the end of your career that you would maybe ten
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: years ago or maybe even five years ago.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: It's just different. So being said, you're gonna be way
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: more strategic.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And how you evaluate potential fighters and potential fights and whatnot.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: But it's just a bad matchup a six' two guy that,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: powerful that athletic in the ring and looks like the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: condition is really good as. Well it's a very. Bad
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: but if he had problems With Tance, crawford who was
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a you, know similar, active you, know rangey kind of,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: guy he would have a lot of issues with Ben
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: videz because six' two at, that weight with those arms, and, yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: no no that would not.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: BE well i.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Would say that The peak canelo at let's, say, middleweight
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: uh the way he moved with his head movement and
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: just able to dodge punches in, the Ring that canelo
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: could conceivably have fought Like A. David, benavidez obviously it's
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: like time doesn't match up that. They weren't, you know
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: he wasn't the same weight class When bena vitez was
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: able to take on the. Big fights But that. Canela's gone,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: i'm sorry, you know the Last time canelo moved in
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: a way that let's SAY like i, don't know Uh
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: previous canelo To. CURRENT canelo i think that line Is
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: The Billy joe, saunder's fight if you see him on
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: that ring and then see. EVERYTHING afterwards i think it
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: really was a stark difference into how how you Know
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: slower canelo was moving? The clip what's that? Clip of
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: that always Comes Up? Danny Jacobs when Canilo Fought, danny
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: jacobs that shit always comes Up on instagram highlights or
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: TikTok because he's just Dodging Like danny jacobs doing like
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: what twenty Punches and canlo fucking dodged all, of them
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: under moved and moved his neck when the when the
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: upper cut. Came up we haven't seen, that guy and you,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: know what like eight years something. Like that definitely not since,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: TWENTY twenty i. Don't think, uh, SO yeah, i mean
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and not to, say that, you know there's no fault of.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: His own he's just. Getting old we. All are i'm
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: over forty NOW where i am, forty NOW and i
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: don't even move down the fucking BLOCK like i, used
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: to just walking from where you're down down the block
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: to get. The Mail, uh, SO yeah i THINK that
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: i think that kind, of sticking sticking putting one guy
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: against the other in terms of, your fandom or putting
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: pitting your fandom against. One another with those, TWO guys
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: i don't. LIKE it i think they're both, amazing fighters,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and uh you know you could be fan.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Of BOTH but i think you guys made a good
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: point on when we are the, three guys when we
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: have show three people that Canals from mexico And ben
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: avida Is A, mexican american that ship's real like THAT
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: is i forgot whether it was YOU who, i FORGOT
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and i know you mentioned, it before but that was
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a hell of a point because because there is a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: difference and the fan that roots for, each guy so
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: there's something there with, that alone because that sound has always.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Been RIGHT so i think that is a. Big deal
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: But also mexican fans are very prideful in their own
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: whether you're from here, From there but if you're from
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: there and you come here and do well, in boxing
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: yeah you have A whole you've got a whole critic.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Behind YOU so I get i get the the disdain
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and the the uprising amongst. THE family i definitely can
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: That is a really really Good, POINT honestly i kind
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: of neglected to even bring this up in this discussion,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: so far, BUT yeah I mean benavidez is already getting
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: some complaints when the all the ads, were, like Oh a,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: mexican showdown, you Know between benavidez and is from Us,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: at lata so he's Born. In mexico but Are the
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: instagram COMMENTS will i Can hate instagram comments over and
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: over benavide Is, A mexican He's, Not mexican he's Half.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: For macuador Where's the? Ecuadorian flag blah? Blah Blah and
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: TONY and i actually got into that conversation a little
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: deeper in last Week's Episode Totally. En espanol we won't
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: go through all of that because we talked, a lot
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: BUT what i will say is he made a good
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: point is that, you know if you embrace the culture
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: and if you get in the ring and you fight Like,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: a mexican like that's a compliment and that's kind of
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: what matters, the most because fighting In the, mexican style
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: that is. A thing and his take, was like as
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: long as you, display that like you should be embraced
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: by by the, boxing FANS and i think it's Happening
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: for benavitez because he's very very quickly become, becoming. Undeniable
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: unignorable his performances are. Just there they speak. For themselves
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: here's another TAKE that i made in the last ep
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: that'll repeat Here that i'll. Translate here just kind of
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: popped into my HEAD as i was talking To to
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: tony in. Last episode so boxing is not as popular
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: as he used. To be i'm not breaking. Any news
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: we all. KNOW this i do Feel that mexican fans
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: aren't really. THEY haven't i don't feel like they've wavered.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Very much mexican's are always gonna, Love boxing they're always
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: gonna watch it with their family and. Their KIDS so
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: i don't think for the future of boxing we need
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Lots more. MEXICAN fans i think we need the. Other
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: side We Need mexican, American Fans latino, american fans and
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: we need fighters who are IN the Us from hispanic Heritage,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Like Benevetez ryan Garcia And, Milano Vargas bam rodriguez to
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: create new fans ON the us side of the border with.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: That heritage there's like it's like leaving money on. The
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: table there's a whole crop of people that could potentially,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: be FANS and i think it's gotta it needs to
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: balance out that way in order to make boxing maybe
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: not as popular as it used, to be but definitely
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: more popular than it is at. The, Moment RYAN so
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I think i would like, to see, you know a
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: big wave of More young HISPANIC like i like saying
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: brown because it's a nice solidarity between all the different
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: types of, you know Communities like latino Plus like indian
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: people Are around filipinos, are brown so it kind of
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: makes me feel. Like connected but, but yeah young brown
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: fighters From Different latin american backgrounds but are creating new
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: fans IN. THE us i think that's what we really
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: could be a good. Way FORWARD but i don't know
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: what's your what's your take.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: ON that i think we need younger people to be fans.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: As WELL so i agree, with you we Need The
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: mexican american people because for the, longest time People from
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: mexico would really carry this quart, of boxing whether the fights.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Were here where you're At.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: In, arizona la other Parts. Of california the People from
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: mexico are so prideful and love boxing so much that
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: they would basically fund all these these events between people
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: who go to game or, matt sorry people go, to
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: matches people who, buy, beer, merchandise trout the. Whole nine
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you have to transfer that to the younger generation and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Also The mexican american fan that's, from here but it
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: may not be as involved in boxing as their. Parents
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: were that's something that we got to. Figure out like
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that's the that's seem like we're losing. That battle it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: seems like the people in our generation and younger they're
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: not so keen on being all in with somebody boxing
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: because they're the.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Same race we've somehow lost that, some way shape. Or
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: form got to get.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: That, Back Sure and i'm sure that there's some people,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: out there uh You Know mexican American Or hispanic american
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: people our age that grew up with boxing and kind
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: of and hate it now because there was so prevalent
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: when they, were, kids right and you don't Want to
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: you kind of get sick of it and you. Move
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: away i'm sure that's that's also. A thing, but, YEAH
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: no i younger fans Are definitely and here's the Thing
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: that i'll Say About. Ryan garcia, You Know i've i've critiqued,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: him for, you know Not being i've said that his
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: skills don't really translate to. HIS fame i really like
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: the Performance Against. MADIO barrios i want to see more.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: OF that i definitely think he's he could Be a
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: ryan two point zero. After this but this is a whole.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Different conversation And A ryan, garcia type who does, you
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: know Call, himself mexican is born IN, the us has
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: those roots and has a lot. Of popularity that kind
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: of guy can actually be good to create fans of.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: The SPORT so i want to be want to be
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: fair to all the All the ryan fans that fucking
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: came at me when he when He. Beat barrios, after
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: that UH after i Predicted that. Barrio's win, but, YEAH
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: no i think we're that would be a very very
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: good opportunity for for the future.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Of boxing, so.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Right so we can't really we've already. Done it we
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: can't really Talk about metavidas without Bringing. Up canelo here's
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: ONE point i want to MENTION that i don't know
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: if you realize that at the Time, on saturday during
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: the call out at the end Of the, Benavitas fight
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: canelo had left like he went To See. Hymen mungia
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: he left for the fight with the starting before the,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: main event which, you know that's a, bitch, move bro that's,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: come on that's, fucked up like you were a. Boxing
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: fan kind of goes TO what i, was, saying like
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: why wouldn't you stay to watch at the main event
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: on secret with the mile that's kind.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: OF shitty.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I feel indifferent. ABOUT it i feel you where you're,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: coming FROM and. I agree i agree. With you by the,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: same time it's a story. Either way if he stays
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and goes to the, whole thing it's. A story if
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: he leaves before, the, fight oh if he leaves for the,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: fight starts it's. A story he's the kind of damn
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: if you do, it there if you don't kind, of
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: situation and he knows.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: He downside he ain't fighting. It anyway so.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: If you're there for a purpose and that purpose, is
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: fulfilled you can go ahead. AND bounce i get why
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he did what, he DID but i don't think it's
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: some tragic day or some. Crazy thing this is one
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of those things where, All right I'm herefore i'm supposed
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to do and it.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Could happen this is with. This situation it's a very high,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: profile situation. That's.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: ALL yeah, I MEAN i i think he knew what
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: was coming and knew that he was gonna get, Called
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: out and but, you're, right yeah he would have Definitely
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: been it would have been a, whole thing and, you
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: know they would have been asking him about it. Afterwards
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: anyway but the call out there probably still will be
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: when he. Does INTERVIEWS but i think the main thing
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: is everybody has to just get on board with the
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Fact that Canelo versus benevetez will.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Not.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Happen correct there's definitely people still, saying, like oh, You're
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: running you're running. Right now, he ran like the shit's,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Done WITH like i don't see any possible world where
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: this could. Still Happen and i'm not even saying don't,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: criticize anybody, critique whatever do what. You want but my
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: thing is, is like let's all just be clear about
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: what's what the situation. Is here that shit is not
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: gonna happen.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Right Now and wade passed that at.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: This, point, yeah oh and that. Reminds me actually there
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: was a an Article where Canelo's Trainer eddie renoso actually
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: said there was a time For the, benavita's fight but
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: that time has, moved on, it's passed which that's super
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: shitty because, he's, like oh he's a cruiser, weight now
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: like You think benevidez wouldn't come back down To. Fight,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: canelo like, of course.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: It's more of a situation where it's basically politely letting
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: him know that we don't want. To smoke it's, basically,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: saying hey we don't we're. Not interested there's nothing we
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: can do at, this stage and we're we're pat where
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: where we're over it because there's, no way there's no, Way.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Sure AND and I just i just really DISLIKED the
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: i guess the frame of it of there was, a
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: time but. It's passed the time Was when benavitez was your,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: mandatory bro don't give me.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: THAT ship I mean vanessa's. Boxing though when you are,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the name when YOU'RE the, a side you can pull,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: these stunts that's. The, thing Like and canelo has not
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: enough in sport of boxing to be able to do.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: These, THINGS yeah i think the biggest QUESTION mark i
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: have right now is what the hell is gonna Happen.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Next Skodamayo so canilo still has two fights on. A
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: schedule he's already Scheduled. For september he Usually Fights, may
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: september Skip this may because of, you know an. Injury,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: surgery whatever, That's fair so what the Hell? Is canelo
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: let's Say even canelo wants to have his final fight
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: And retire may of twenty, twenty seven are you gonna
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: take that? In good in, My fight.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I'm lose it against, All right but who does he
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: fight in a? Farewell, fight.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah A triple g. Part four, THAT'S like i would,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: love it but that's the only thing that will get,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: people like that's the only thing to grant, people's attention
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: right because those those first two fights are. So legendary if.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: It's a, SWAN song, i mean people will always be
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: interested in a boxer's last or ross bestially while they have.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Their SENSES so i mean it would do well and,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: All that but in terms, OF like i don't know.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: She's that's A good i don't. Know, WHO yeah i
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: don't know who he.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: WOULD fight, I Mean i'm i'm, actually curious like thing
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: on who would he.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: ACTUALLY fight I honestly i would be at a loss.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Right now, another possibility which again would be fair is
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: a passing of the torch, and, say look and, You
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: know i'm sort of pre Assuming that canel is going
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: to retire after us to. Fight contracts, of course we don't.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Know that we don't. KNOW that i personally think it'd
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: probably be a good time for him to back. It
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: up but maybe he Could say I'm fighting september twenty
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: twenty seven And skipping may of. Twenty, seven yeah and,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: you know giving it Up. TO benevitez i think that
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: would be the very, you know the very gracious thing,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: to do just, to, say like let's open it. Back
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: up HE'S still, i mean and Let's. Remember september is
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: He fights september because It's Around mexican independence. Dayp yep
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: so wouldn't, be like, you know ruining his his legacy
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: of fighting at, that time, you know his his what
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: do we, call it his his track record of fighting at.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: THAT time I think i'd be kind of, the best,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: best compromise the best of. All.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Worlds yep it is.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Him skipping Sequin. To mayo plus another thing that, you
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Know the september fight is going to be in riot
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Again In. SAUDI arabia i Saw.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: That i'm not throwed, about IT but i saw, it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: WELL and i think that we shouldn't be taking Sequin
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: to maya fights Away, from vegas to be quite honest
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: with you. At All, especially yeah like last year, twenty
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: five it, happened luckily So the canola Fight, Was saturday,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: May fourth luckily we had now, yeah Anyway, on Sunday actual,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: may fifth with one of the best fights of. The
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: year definitely saved that weekend from the borings fights that came.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Before it but especially with the news kind of, saying that,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: you Know the saudi's are going to be less involved.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: In FUNDING, UH i i don't see why why Syncron
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: de myo fights would change, that tradition not even to
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: say that like traditions, can't change Or that i'm stuck in,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: the past any. Of that it's just it for for
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: the benefit of the Sport like vegas in boxing and
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: getting shithoused and gambling like all of that together, is
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: benefit not just, you know for people to, get there
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: but financially for fans to get There. To Vegas like I'm.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: In arizona it's easier for me to get there than
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: to get to fucking read right, that part that Part so,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: UH yeah i really kind of. Wish that how about
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: this any other fight any other time of year fighting read?
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: That's fine synchre demas specifically that one's a tough one
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: to take Away. FROM vegas i think that's uh that
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: has the, most repercussions if that. MAKES sense i.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Think That And mexican independence. WEEKEND too i think those
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: would Be for, vegas only and if some stuff back
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: east that we don't, know about that should Be For
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: new york and all. That stuff BUT while i look
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: at the situation like we need fights as much as possible,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: OUT here i GET the. Ria thing, excuse me with
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: all that, being said who's going over there and watching
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: these fights? Like that with all due respect everything they
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: have going on. OVER there i don't want to, offend
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: nobody nothing. Like that but these fights are made popular
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: because of the the buzz and. Create here like if
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a fight is going on, over there even from a,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: large crowd it doesn't hit the same, Over here like
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: we'll watched, the fight, of course but we're not going
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to Trip over oh there's forty thousand. People there if
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: they're not, fight fans, Doesn't MATTER like i think that
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: makes big fight nights, here dope whether it's in, the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: garden whether It's In, la vegas wherever the, fight is
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: it's normally a lot of fight fans in. The building
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: people who are are there for. The fight, they're knowledgeable
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: they know. The sport they want to see a. Good
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: scrap that's why. They're there so to see a fight
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: in a random place only because they could fit in
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: sixty thousand people or. Whatever whatever those aren't boxing fans
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: or they're not there for the. Right reason it doesn't
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: hit the. Same line i'd rather have twenty thousand PEOPLE
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: At t mobile Here in vegas than sixty thousand somewhere
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: else where the fans aren't.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Into, it.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah and actually that reminds me of SOMETHING that i
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: probably should have asked you from the. Very beginning, you
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: know Obviously you're I'm, A tucson You're, in vegas so
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: you've seen many a Syncre de bio. Fight weekend you
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: said the buzz was not, the same but it, Wasn't
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: enough so can you can you describe exactly what you
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: saw on what was different or is it just?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: A vibe it wasn't ply those, part vies but also
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: it wasn't, Marketed correctly they felt it could be marketed
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Better because benavidez is a guy, that's marketable, you know
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: especially being a guy That Is, Mexican american he's, definitely
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: marketable and he's a good. Looking guy so it felt
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: like they left they left twuch on the table in
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: terms of the possibilities with him that when you're Coming
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: to vegas it's your first. Headlining fight it just felt
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: that they could have done a lot more for him this.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Time around now that might change, going forward but it, felt,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: like hey like should have been, more billboards should have been,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: more ash this should have been way. More things but
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: at the, same time this might be the introduction to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the next five or seven years, for him so.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Who knows, but overall too the card didn't.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Have a lot of other guys on it either that
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the regular boxing fan would. Know either that's the. Big
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: thing so a lot of some of the minor fights
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the card would, be, dope right you would have the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: co headline or the fight before the fight would be
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a guy that both people know or both fighters people,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: would know and there'd be a young up and coming
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: guy that and THAT'S where i think we're losing recipes
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: with is that the the undercards are not as strong
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: as they won.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: The past this is a very very exciting time, for,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: boxing honestly with the Prospect of, Canelo retiring husick talking about,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: him leaving, You know benevidez on. The rise plus we
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: got Guys Like, beam rodriguez, you know, and uh, You
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Know keishan davis is back and he's fighting. This, month,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: actually well there's actually a lot of. Other things, You
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: know bevall's back this in this may. As well it
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: is a tune, to fight but still it's he's always gonna.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Have hype it's kind of been like a. CRAZY month
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: i looked at the CALENDAR and i, was like even
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: if things aren't super like, exciting, matchups like of Course
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: wus sick is fighting that kickboxer, this Month, recover Hope
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: and usik is still a name and a draw and
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: he has his fans and he's. A star same thing
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: With bevill he's fighting a MANDATORY somebody i hadn't, heard
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: of maybe a lot of people haven't, heard of but,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: you know his return then opens up the door, Of,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: like okay he's still in, The game what, the hell
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: what's up with with A better bee of trilogy Or a,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: benavitez fight you KNOW what. I MEAN so i think
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have a lot to discuss on. The show definitely.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Go forward. So, cool well we're gonna wrap it up here. For, now,
• 42:04
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• 42:07
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