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Doug Marrone Show: August 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The show, former Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Logherman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the latest Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: news with the head coach. The Doug Moron Show starts
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  Speaker 1: right now. Welcome in The Doug Moron Show, JP Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Loghuman, head coach Doug Marone. The first full week
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  Speaker 1: of training camp. Team is nearly in the books with
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  Speaker 1: the family Night Screamers coming up tomorrow night. How you doing, coach?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? I'm doing well. I think that you know
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  Speaker 1: when you know, obviously, tonight's the Hall of Fame game,
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  Speaker 1: and I think when that game, you know, so they
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  Speaker 1: think some of the players will be able to go
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  Speaker 1: back tonight and watch some of it, you know, after
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  Speaker 1: our our walkthrough, But like for me, it starts saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. We've got to speed this process up.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to get you know, better quick, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and a week from today we'll be playing our first
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  Speaker 1: preseason game, and um, you know, it just goes by,
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  Speaker 1: goes by so quick. With the Hall of Fame game, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the the induction ceremony is right around the corner of
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. Any memories of some of these guys that
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  Speaker 1: are going into the Hall this weekend. I mean played,
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  Speaker 1: you know obviously against or Lacquer, you know, the linebacker. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, let's see ray Lewis against him when he
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  Speaker 1: was in Baltimore. Um, who else is going? Tara Owens?
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  Speaker 1: Tara Owens a little controversial. They're not gonna be there,
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  Speaker 1: right boss? You teach hatt Nooga, Randy Moss, Randy Moss
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  Speaker 1: played again? Yeah, I think you know all great players,
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  Speaker 1: you know for me, obviously I was an offensive line
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  Speaker 1: coach coming up, so you know or Lacker and ray Lewis,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I remember them. And then obviously, um, I
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  Speaker 1: remember a game we you know, we threw a quick
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  Speaker 1: game or lac I picked it off and ran it
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  Speaker 1: back when we were playing when I was with the
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  Speaker 1: Saints wim in Chicago. And then do you remember what
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  Speaker 1: he played in college? He was a safety. He was
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  Speaker 1: a safety New Mexico or New Mexico State or there
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  Speaker 1: it was. And and I remember the first time I
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  Speaker 1: ever saw him, I was like, I don't know, hell
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  Speaker 1: did he play safety at that height in college? And
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  Speaker 1: you have the big guy had a lot of range,
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  Speaker 1: can run? Um, you know in Baltimore. You know, ray
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  Speaker 1: Lewis we always felt was the heart and so a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and um, I mean when he was at Baltimore,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, we had some battles with him. When
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  Speaker 1: I was in um, New York with the Jets and
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  Speaker 1: had had some had some really good games against him.
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  Speaker 1: The guy that the two guys that he had in
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  Speaker 1: front of him in his heyday, I'm talking about ray Lewis. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean Tony Seagoosa and Sam Adams maybe two of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest human beings that were ever walking on this
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  Speaker 1: planet in that at that time frame, and ray Lewis
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  Speaker 1: just ran unscathed from sideline to sideline. Yeah, And that
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  Speaker 1: was the thing. I mean you always tried to say, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: if we can get up on them, we can block them.
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  Speaker 1: But that was the problem. You couldn't really get up
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  Speaker 1: there because they had those two big guys in the middle,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And I'm sure a lot of linebackers would
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  Speaker 1: say that, Um, you know, We're like, I had some
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  Speaker 1: good guys up front. And then you know, also I
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  Speaker 1: remember you know back then, you know, Miami had you know,
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  Speaker 1: Zack Thomas, who uh with a heck of a player.
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  Speaker 1: He would make a ton of tackles. But he also
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  Speaker 1: had those two big guys up in front. And it
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  Speaker 1: was funny because you know we'd always go into these
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  Speaker 1: uh uh scouting me. So someone would go out a
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  Speaker 1: week earlier, you know, scout the team, come back if
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  Speaker 1: a scouting report, and like Sam Adams, they would say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hey, this you know the same Adams. He's
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  Speaker 1: this height, this weight. Uh. You know he doesn't you know,
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  Speaker 1: he takes a lot of plays off and you know
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  Speaker 1: only he'll only go hard for you know, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: couple of plays. And I would be sitting there going yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and those plays that he goes hard, something bad is
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  Speaker 1: about to happen, you know, I used to say. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, they make it sound like, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: kind of downplay him, and I would think that every
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  Speaker 1: time those sun of a guns, those big guys up
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  Speaker 1: front when they go you know, just something bad is
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen. Nice. So they Hall of Fame game tonight
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  Speaker 1: a week from the night, the Jags and the Saints
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  Speaker 1: here at t I A. Bank Field. So m I
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  Speaker 1: guess a full weekend the training camp. Now, are you
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  Speaker 1: starting to see the personality of your team come through.
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  Speaker 1: Is it still too early? Do you have to wait
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  Speaker 1: for real games so that I know you spoke to
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  Speaker 1: that a bit the other day. Well, I think you
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  Speaker 1: see the personality who I mean, we got a ton
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  Speaker 1: of personality you know on a team, but you don't.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to him more about identity, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: what's our team's identity and what we're gonna be. That's
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  Speaker 1: something that we're building and I still think that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's something you can talk about, something you can practice about,
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  Speaker 1: but your team identity is going to be how you perform.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to the players the other night and I
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  Speaker 1: was talking about, you know, um, just don't fall into
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  Speaker 1: the trap of if you go through the process that
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  Speaker 1: you will be successful. In other words, just because we're
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  Speaker 1: working hard, where we're doing all this stuff, Um that
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  Speaker 1: that that's not gonna you know, mean that, oh shoot,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go out there on Sunday be successful. We're
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  Speaker 1: doing it so we have the ability that we have
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity on Sunday because it's still a performance based business.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting that you talk about that about just because
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  Speaker 1: you're working hard doesn't mean that you're working to get better,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I remember a coach and I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember which coach it was, but he told me said, look,
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  Speaker 1: he said, every day that you're in training camp, he said,
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  Speaker 1: pick one thing, one thing, write it down before you
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  Speaker 1: go out there, and see, this is what I want
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  Speaker 1: to work on today, that I am definitely gonna get
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  Speaker 1: better at this one thing. And I think in training
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  Speaker 1: camp sometimes to break it down to that simple of
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  Speaker 1: a process where you're picking one thing. You obviously are
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  Speaker 1: concentrate on everything, but to make sure that that one
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  Speaker 1: area that you're focused on, whether it be hand placement
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  Speaker 1: if you're on offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, or
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  Speaker 1: pad level if you're you know, striking or footwork if
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  Speaker 1: you're a cornerback. I mean those things, it seems to
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  Speaker 1: make a difference. Yeah, I got I got a great story.
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  Speaker 1: Something I learned a long time ago. So when I
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  Speaker 1: was with Miami, my locker was next to Dwight Stevenson,
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  Speaker 1: who's in the Hall of Fame, great player, And you know,
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  Speaker 1: we practice back down, we practice twice a day, and
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  Speaker 1: we'd have a walk to at night. So I was
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  Speaker 1: a young player, so I'm exhausted. You know, we're going
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  Speaker 1: out there for the walk through and we're basically in
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  Speaker 1: hats and jerseys and we go out there and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the whites playing center. We come back in after the
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  Speaker 1: walk through and he's sitting next to me a locker locker,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean, he's drenched in sweat. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: he has this great player, and I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing. He's like, every time I step
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  Speaker 1: on the field, I pick one thing. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: he said. I pick one thing and I work on it.
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  Speaker 1: So this way, when I come off the field, I
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  Speaker 1: know that I've gotten better. And I think that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: something that we try to tell, you know. I think
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  Speaker 1: I think more so with the veteran players is I
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  Speaker 1: think some of the younger players there's maybe a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more you know, one or two or three things
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  Speaker 1: you know that you want to come out of a
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  Speaker 1: practice and be better with. But you know, those veteran
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  Speaker 1: players the I think it was in a Lebron James
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  Speaker 1: interview this year, UM, I'm obsessed with change, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that, um he had said that, and
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of and I talked to our
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  Speaker 1: players about that about great players are obsessed with change,
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  Speaker 1: meaning they're going to go out there, work on something
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  Speaker 1: and change something, do whatever they have to do to
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  Speaker 1: to maintain, you know, this level of greatness. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think that that that's what makes that's a big difference.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people don't understand every time you go out there,
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  Speaker 1: if you work on one little thing and get better,
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  Speaker 1: that one little thing could be the difference between winning
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  Speaker 1: and losing. And a great player is a great player,
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  Speaker 1: but there's always something that that great player wants to
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  Speaker 1: improve upon. There's always something that's at least they feel
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  Speaker 1: that mindset that there's always something that can be improved, right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you know, with our football team, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we have some some very good players and it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: when you go out there, you know, their their competitiveness,
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  Speaker 1: you know of you know, not wanting to lose the drill,
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  Speaker 1: not wanting to look bad, not wanting to you know,
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  Speaker 1: do those things. It's something that I think it's probably
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  Speaker 1: a little bit underappreciated by you know, people out there.
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  Speaker 1: They just think that they're just talented and and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's easy. There's nothing easy about playing a sport
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  Speaker 1: of football. I think I think it changed when you
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  Speaker 1: talk about the competitiveness, and I remember watching practice, okay, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: the first path of day Monday, and then Jalen returns.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe it's me making more of it, but I
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  Speaker 1: just sense heightened competitive atmosphere when he's on the field,
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  Speaker 1: not only just because of how he is, but I
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  Speaker 1: think of also how he elevates the competitive atmosphere with
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  Speaker 1: his teammates on the field as well. Do you sense
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  Speaker 1: that well, you know, I think I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say it to a point where I'm taking you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of other I think. What makes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the defense or what has the potential to make them
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  Speaker 1: a good defense is they're they're all competitive. They don't
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  Speaker 1: you know, a j you know the opposite. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's just as competitive, t Gett Church, you know, all
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  Speaker 1: those guys. And I'm seeing some of that with some
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  Speaker 1: of the young guys you know that that that we
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  Speaker 1: brought in or drafted, you know, their competitiveness. So I
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  Speaker 1: think when he comes when he came in, I think
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  Speaker 1: it was more of there's a little bit like okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're complete, you know, and and maybe in their mind
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  Speaker 1: of you know, hey, one of us is in here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whatever the reasons are, you know, whatever they're
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about. But I think when he came in,
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  Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, now we're here, Now let's go.
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  Speaker 1: And it might have been something in that that effect, but
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen now what you might have seen. Jalen
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  Speaker 1: does like to talk a little bit, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, and that kind of and and I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a problem with that, you know, and it kind
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  Speaker 1: of gets everyone riled up, which isn't you know, for
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  Speaker 1: me as a coach, I want to see them being competitive.
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  Speaker 1: So if it takes someone saying, hey, I'm I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna beat you know, beat your butt this this this play,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm good. I'm good with that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's see who's gonna rise to the occasion, because
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  Speaker 1: that's really what happens out there on Sundays. You know,
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  Speaker 1: to think that there's no talking going on during the
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  Speaker 1: game is ridiculous, And you know they're there, there's there's
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  Speaker 1: some talking going on, and you want to see who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna rise to the occasion the other guy that And
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of flashing back to last year a little
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  Speaker 1: bit here, that I thought had an unbelievable camp was
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  Speaker 1: in Gockway. And this year watching him a training camp,
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  Speaker 1: the the effort, the concentration, you know, conditioning. At the
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  Speaker 1: end of practice, he's the first guy in line. He
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  Speaker 1: just seems like he's taken that next step of being
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  Speaker 1: even more of a consummate pro and it really seems
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  Speaker 1: to be taken on a little bit of a leadership role.
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  Speaker 1: That's just seems to becoming naturally for him. He really has.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, uh, what I see with with
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  Speaker 1: with John is you know, here here's a guy that
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  Speaker 1: you know, had some success, but it's just feels like
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  Speaker 1: he's not satisfied with that. And so he went out
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  Speaker 1: in this offseason and he worked on, you know, different things,
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  Speaker 1: different counters, different things to better his game. He went
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  Speaker 1: out and researched other players or what they've done, spent
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  Speaker 1: time with them, um, and did a lot. And I
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  Speaker 1: told him, I reminded him, I said, remember where any
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  Speaker 1: information gathering business, not the information given. You don't need
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  Speaker 1: to tell anyone how about your moves. But you know what,
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  Speaker 1: let's take all their moves, you know, and see it.
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  Speaker 1: But um, he's been like that from day one. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's he's an unbelievable worker. Uh. He's you know,
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  Speaker 1: a very uh you know, break guy, smart and really
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  Speaker 1: uh is always in great condition and he can he
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  Speaker 1: can go all day. So Um, he plays with a
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  Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder. And I think that's helped him.
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  Speaker 1: It's been successful for him and and that's that's how
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  Speaker 1: he plays. Officials are in the building this week. We'll
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  Speaker 1: We're back JP Shatterick, Jeff Flagman, head coach, Doug Marone
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  Speaker 1: The Doug Morone Show, and Doug went back to your
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  Speaker 1: roots This week in training camp a bit with Tony
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  Speaker 1: Sperranto junior out. Pat Flaherty was out of practice as
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  Speaker 1: well for personal reasons. You went over to the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line room, and as you said, you were probably a
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  Speaker 1: little more excited about it than they were. How did
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  Speaker 1: it turn out? No, it turned out well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we we had a discussion about it, um Coach Hacking
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  Speaker 1: and I and you know, hey, what what do we
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  Speaker 1: want to do? And you know what's gonna happen with practice?
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's one thing, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we have Coach Kafflin here, so when I was
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  Speaker 1: on the other field, coach would go ahead and be
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  Speaker 1: able to blow the whistle. And what the goal was
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  Speaker 1: is to make sure that you know, we didn't take
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  Speaker 1: anywhere else and less than anything. And I would go
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: in there and I just hope that I didn't screw
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  Speaker 1: those guys up. And Coach Coffin got to blow the whistle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: coach without that, yeah, we're gonna get the so from
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I'm sure to training the equipment room,
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  Speaker 1: I don't imagine. Yeah, I think that's what's good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We have people, everyone's backed up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you don't usually have to at the same position,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, to be able to step in there
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  Speaker 1: and keep everything going and everything running smoothly and no
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  Speaker 1: one really taking any notice of it. You know, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's all a good sign and the player
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  Speaker 1: is really just going to work and not making a
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  Speaker 1: big deal out of it's important too. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line, I don't say make a statement because
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  Speaker 1: that's probably making too much of it. But the first
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  Speaker 1: padded practice in the the one on one drive blocking drill,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line, I mean they made me notice,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I can tell you that. And then since that time
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I have paid more attention to that drill and kind
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: of I don't say keeping track or score, but watching
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: how the results are. They're holding their own against a
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: really good defensive front that you guys have, which is impressive. Yeah,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I think I think you know you know I again,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like you, I don't really keep the score. What
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for is, you know, to you know this
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: one on one and who can just either knock you know,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: the offensive guy that knocked the defensive player off the ball,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: and the defensive player can knock the offensive guy off
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the ball. I'm a firm believer that I think in
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: this game, somewhere somewhere along the line, you know, when
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the game's on the line, someone's gonna knock somebody off
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the football. And I don't think you can get any
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: more than just one on one. And I'm a firm
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: believer that, you know, a you have to learn first
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: how to win the one on one battles, then when
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the combination battles, then win the half line battles, then
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: when the team battles. And I think there's a progression
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to that. You know that you want to see them
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: excel at. I think that you know that competition, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: for offensive line against our defensive line is gonna make
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: us a better offensive line. And I'm hoping with the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: way our offensive guys are going at it is gonna
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: make our defensive you know, players better players. That's one
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: of the key that if you can have two competitive
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: sides of the ball where they don't talk over the ball,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: working against each other to get each other better, because
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: when you become one one team, you've helped each other.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of what we talk about. It's
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: uh some notes that I've just metal notes that I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: just kind of made on myself a j can. I
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: think it's been very good so far, particularly in that drill. Uh,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the young draft pick Will Richardson Junior has got he's
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: got a great get off, and he's got power. And
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: then two guys on the defensive side of the ball
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that are just so incredibly strong, And it's just I'm jealous,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, how come I didn't have that level
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: of you know when I played Taven Brian and Marcel Darius. Yeah,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Marcel I used always I used always killing with Marcel
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and say, um, you know, hey, listen, tell me when
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you're you're ready to come over to the good side,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: you know. And he's like, well he looked at me,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and I said, I think I think we can make
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you a pro Bowl guard. You know. He's like, I'm
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: a pro Bowl nose tackle, you know. And I mean
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: he's you know, he's difficult to move. And some of
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: those you know, and and and Tateman has done a
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: nice job too. He's you know, he's quick off, you know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: quick off the ball, and and and he's got that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that strength. And we got a couple of guys in
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: there that are just strong. And it's amazing because I
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: always say, not that those guys aren't strong in the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: weight room, but you see some guys that aren't that strong,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: maybe in the weight room, and then all of a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: sudden you can't knock them off the football, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: because of their leverage or their speed off the football.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: And um, you're right it it does it. You know.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: As a former offensive lineman, there's guys I went against
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: some I'm like, I hit that. I hit that that
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: son of a gun as hard as I could and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and I could not move him. My favorite stories I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: had Randy Thomas, who was a great player with me
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: at the Jets, and Kareem McKenzie who later went on
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to the Giants. We're playing a game, we're running power
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: to the right and um, Tim Bowen's you know from
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I think it's from Ole, miss was playing
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: from Miami and um and and those those two guys
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: are very good run blockers. So um they hit him
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and h about Randy Thomas, Kareem hit Bowens. The double
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: team and bones, they double team and they don't move them,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you know, so they come over the sideline. I'm piste off,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, we got two guys on and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: we can't move him. You know, that's a bunch of crap,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, And I'll never forget Ranny thom
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: It was probably as straight as straight it can be.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget what I'm saying. You know, he's on
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the bench on on my knee, looking at the line
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and he's like, we can't move him. And I was like,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a bunch of crap. He goes,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you we're not gonna move him. So
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: halftime comes and we're running out the tunnel, right So
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm all piste, you know, I'm like, I got
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: two of my best players and we came up. So
• 19:35
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• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the tunnel at halftime and I looked to my left
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and it's tim Boone, you know, he's there. And I
• 19:43
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• 19:44
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• 19:47
  Speaker 1: calf is about it. Now, I have big calves. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: looked at him and they look like dighes. And I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: looked up and he's like six six and I and
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I said, and they've got cleats on, so he's like
• 19:57
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• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and I go, hey, listen, I understand we can't move
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: this guy. This is what we have to do. After
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I saw him, I would like I was like, yeah, yeah,
• 20:07
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• 20:10
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• 22:51
  Speaker 1: this week. John Perry and part of his crew are here.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: They're on the practice field each day. I believe they
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: are in meetings with your team throughout the next day
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: or two here and and they go around a different
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: teams in the league. This is that week that all
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  Speaker 1: the officials get out there. Got to be helpful obviously
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  Speaker 1: to have a hands on the NFL crew with you
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and then to ask questions. The players get to pick
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the brain as well. Oh absolutely, I think that you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: they first of all, John and and and the guys
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that he had had brought in, you know, from his
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: crew had done an outstanding job. And I think that
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you know, we had a lot of questions. We we
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: take some clips you know, from practice, we cut it up,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I meaning put it in the cut up,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: put it for them to watch so they can help
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: us of you know, what they're looking for, how they're
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: gonna call it, so we can coach, uh, the players better.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So this way we know how to play within the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: rules of the game, you know, because a lot of
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: times there's there's some judgment calls, but you want some
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: clarification on it. And and they've been great, and our
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: players have asked a lot of good questions. Are coaches
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: have asked a lot of good questions that definitely, you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: when they leave here will have a better understanding of
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: how the game is going to be officiated. Well, you
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: talk about the explanation and the understandings. And obviously with
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the new rule that's instituted this year, I saw numerous
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: instances in practice yesterday where John Perry and his officials
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: were having conversation with the players and you could just
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: tell by the body language because the helmet the had
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: they were asking questions about this new rule. As a
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: coach and as a team, have you gained a better
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: understanding of how this new rule will get officiated and
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and how it actually is going to be interpreted on
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: game day, because there's a lot of people that have
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: had conversation with officials and have read the rules and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: really maybe a little bit more confused than prior to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: what they were before. I don't think I'm I'm confused
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: on on the rule. You know, how it's going to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: be officiated, you know, is something that always remains to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: be seen. But I do have an understanding of what
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: it is the foul and what's not. You know, I
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: think any time I think the first thing, you know
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that we've talked to our players about it. Any any
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: time your your head goes down and you're looking at
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the ground, now you're in a potential foul position. You know.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Then obviously once you go linear and you have that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: flat back head down to the ground, you know, if
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you use your in your helmet makes you know, first
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: contact with the opponent at really anybody part, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: then then that's a foul. And I think that you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: for for me as a coach that did one of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the videos, you know, I've watched thousands of clips and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you know it's something that you look at you say,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: we don't want that in this game. And I just
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, from everywhere, we have to take
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the lead on it as coaches in the NFL to
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: make sure that we're doing the best possible job we
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: are of coaching our players the proper technique, go it
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: out and drilling it, showing it to him on tape
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and and doing the best job possible to make this
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: game safer. For you did the offensive line video, I
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: did the offensive line video. How does that change the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: offensive and maybe you guys pulling and and going out? Yeah,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: for for me, you know, when I when I at
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the tape, I I you know, I watched a lot
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: of you know, I didn't really see a lot of
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: things inline. You know, most people are coming off with
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: shoulders or most people are coming off with their hands,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: so you know, I didn't see any of the the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: inline um, you know, face down helmet. You know what
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I see. What I did was I saw a lot
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of you know, time and space, which means, you know,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: maybe some longer polls. You know, we're off people of polling,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and and it was really a recurring theme of you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: my hands go down to the side, my head, my
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: head goes down. I'm looking at the ground and I'm
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and I'm coming in there, you know, in a linear position,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm making contact and putting all that pressure you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: on on on on, you know, my head and neck area,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: my my back, and then you know, there were also
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of good shots of being able to perform
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the same block because you know, the one thing, we
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: don't want to take the physicality out of the game,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and we can be physical and we can use it
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: with the proper technique. And I think when you have
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: time and space, you have the ability to make a
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: decision of how you want to do it. I think
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the one thing that came up as you know, hey,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: when you see those offensive linemen pulling on the perimeter
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and going hard and you know, corners or defensive backs
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: coming up to um you know, set the edge or
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: or maybe just to go and take out someone's knees.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: You know, you still have the ability to put your
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: hands and lead with your hands, you know, your forearm, uh, shoulders,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: something of that nature. You don't want, we don't want
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: our players going out there with their head down, leading
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: with their head. Yeah. I think it's gonna be an
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: interesting because you know, you talk about the offensive line
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and and some people have talked about, Okay, well you
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: get the short yardage and goal line, there's a did
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you talk about time and space? Well, there's not a
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: lot of time and there's not a lot of space.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And and will it be officiated to to the letter
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of the law, so to speak, when in that particular area,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: or will the understanding be the Hey, time and space
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: is not there, so they're gonna let them play? Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I think you know, I I think you know there's
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: one in line where someone comes off the ball going
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to the second level, you know what I'm saying, and
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and the head drops I don't it even looked like
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they may have tripped or just caught themselves, but their
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: head was was down. You know, all the goal line
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and everything I've seen, I've seen a lot of shoulders,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of hands, you know, And I think that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you know, you rarely, at least from all the tape
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I watched, and I looked at goal line because that
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: was one of the things I was trying to see
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: is that you know, you rarely ever see it just
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: go boom helmet to helmet with I'm talking about in
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: line play, offensive line and defensive line. You always you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: someone's coming off at an angle, you know, of that nature,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to come up with the hands. You know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you look at every defensive lineman, you see them how
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: they taught. You know, the first really do every day
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: is they're shooting their hands inside, shooting their hands inside
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and offensively we were trying to do it. I just
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: think it's when it's in that that time and space,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you know, where you have that that space where um,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you tend to run and you tend to
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: drop your head. You know, that's something that we've got
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: to get out of the game. Family Knight scrimmage tomorrow
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: night inside t I a bank field. Uh, it's another
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: padded practice. But what can we expect a little differently
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night, If anything, well, I think we'll have the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: situations that we we've changed the practice a little bit. Uh,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: we have changed the practice a little bit even now
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: from from what we did last year, you know, doing
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: more to situational work. But you know, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: out there and we're gonna put in a day's work.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that it will be exciting, um
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  Speaker 1: for you know, the players to get out in the
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope they're excited about the practice,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: or they can be more excited about the twenty four
• 29:31
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• 29:35
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  Speaker 1: Doug Marron in the first half hour each and every
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  Speaker 1: week five o'clock to start time on the Jaguars Radio
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  Speaker 1: Netw're glad you're with us. We finished with Doug Moron there,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff talking about the new rules, and John Perry, the
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  Speaker 1: NFL official who's been a head referee in the league
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  Speaker 1: since two thousand seven. He's been an official in the
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  Speaker 1: league since two thousand But it's the first time in
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a few years the Jaguars have actually had a head
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  Speaker 1: of referee as part of the crew in here. I
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  Speaker 1: think that might help things a little bit, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of the interpretation of these new rules. There's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of new rules this year. Kickoff rules are different.
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  Speaker 1: Um the helmet rule. Obviously, as you as you talked
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  Speaker 1: about some of the differences, a lot of questions to
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  Speaker 1: be asked. Well, there's a big part of the process
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  Speaker 1: to kickoff rules. I mean, coaches can adapt and adjust
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  Speaker 1: on that. Just tell us what we can and can't do,
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  Speaker 1: and we're fine. I made mention a few weeks ago
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  Speaker 1: that I didn't like that they made the you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of small changes recently. We should have made
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  Speaker 1: the changes and left them alone. But the but the
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  Speaker 1: helmet rule is because everything that was reported that that
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  Speaker 1: came out of Baltimore, as far as when the officials
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  Speaker 1: were more confused by what the rule or what the
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  Speaker 1: interpretation of the rule was going to be than they
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  Speaker 1: were prior to hearing from the officials, because they had
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  Speaker 1: officials that were supposedly split fifty fifty on whether some
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: plays would be called or should be called a penalty
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  Speaker 1: versus some that felt that they shouldn't be called a penalty.
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  Speaker 1: And so, you know, officiating the National Football League is
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  Speaker 1: hard enough as it is. I mean, look, you're talking
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  Speaker 1: things happened very quickly. So when you when you present
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  Speaker 1: a situation where instead of trying trying to make the
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  Speaker 1: rule clear cut where it's black and white, and then
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  Speaker 1: trying to make a quick decision in a black and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: white decision situation, now you're trying to make a quick
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: decision in an area that's kind of gray. And so
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I'm tomorrow we get a presentation by uh the referee Mr.
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  Speaker 1: John Perry and his officials, and so I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to hearing what this presentation says, how they present it,
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  Speaker 1: the examples that they show of what will be penalties,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: what will not be considered penalties. Because this is another
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, are things that catch
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  Speaker 1: or are they not a catch controversial? They just it
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: went back to the way it should be okay, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: so now we we kind of cleared that rule up.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Now we're introducing another rule that has a lot of
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: gray area to it, like a catch rule. I mean,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be, I think very interesting to see
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  Speaker 1: what happens in the National Football League this year, how
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: they call it and how they find it. Because you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about significant amounts of money that could be fined
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  Speaker 1: on players for these violations. And if you start running
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  Speaker 1: guys from the game, that's you know, that changes everything.
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  Speaker 1: And you're you're talking about professional football players who do
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  Speaker 1: a good a job as any being coachable and making
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  Speaker 1: sure that they're doing things the right way. But when
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  Speaker 1: you start changing, you know, the game completely because I
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  Speaker 1: mean some of the some of this is what they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about, is big changes. And you start changing the
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  Speaker 1: way a guy played the game his entire life since
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  Speaker 1: he was eight years old, and he's had great success
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  Speaker 1: with it. Now you're asking him completely changing. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's not easy to do. And all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: what he's been doing. You let's say you got a
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  Speaker 1: ten year veteran Clay's Campbell, Okay, ten years and I'm
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: not saying he's been violent in rules. But let's say
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: for ten years he's been doing it a certain way, okay,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: never had a penalty called on him, And now all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, some thing that he is doing is
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  Speaker 1: now considered a penalty and you're asking him to change that.
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  Speaker 1: And what he has been doing for ten years is
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  Speaker 1: not findable now is becoming fineable. I mean, that's it's
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  Speaker 1: I said it from the very beginning. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: wait and hear the interpretation of the rule, which we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna hear clearly tomorrow, and then after that I want
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  Speaker 1: to see how it's enforced. But this, this is a
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  Speaker 1: game changer. I mean, this is a game changer league wide.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, it could have a huge impact on players
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  Speaker 1: availability for the season, suspensions, etcetera. Uh, players hits to
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  Speaker 1: the pocketbook and everything else. And and here's the other
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  Speaker 1: thing the players have brought up. I think that it
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  Speaker 1: is concerning a lot of players are talking about. Look,
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  Speaker 1: if I can't hit a guy up top, I'll just start,
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  Speaker 1: you know, taking the legs out. Then I don't have
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: to worry about the head, you know, making contact in
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: another person's head area, and I'm not gonna get fine.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: So now you have players that are concerned about well,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: look I'm sitting. If I'm an offensive player, you know
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start getting targeted in the legs more because
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to hit me up here for fear
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: of this this this helmet violation. Well, the helmet violation
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  Speaker 1: is no matter where they hit you. So if you
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  Speaker 1: if they hit you with your head first, no matter
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: where on the body it is. But I'm with you
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: on that because a lot of the fine herbal stuff
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: is helmet to helmet and all that still stands. But
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the new rule, where it's we'll find out for sure tomorrow,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it's no, we won't. That's that's That's the thing I
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  Speaker 1: think that's concerning the most is that tomorrow we will
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  Speaker 1: hear John Perry's interpretation of the rule. But I think
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  Speaker 1: if you were to let's say we left Jaguar's camp
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night, hopped on a plane and there was an
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  Speaker 1: officials presentation, let's say in Minnesota or Seattle or Dallas
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  Speaker 1: or Cleveland, wherever we hopped on a plane, and we
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  Speaker 1: went to hear a different presentation with the same film,
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee you that we would hear a different interpretation
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  Speaker 1: of the rule from official to official to official shoal
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  Speaker 1: that's concerning. We'll find out really starting tonight how they
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  Speaker 1: call this like Hall of Fame game tonight, and then
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  Speaker 1: of course throughout the preseason the next four weeks, how
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  Speaker 1: in the first half hour in this program. Are you
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  Speaker 1: all are, my goodness, I mean every every day, I
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  Speaker 1: earlier this week in a press conference and he said
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  Speaker 1: the floor has risen for him. You know, last year,
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  Speaker 1: the first padded practice he through five interceptions and the
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  Speaker 1: sky was falling and what in the world's gonna happen
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  Speaker 1: at quarterback? And oh, this team is gonna win five games,
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  Speaker 1: and go on and on and on and on. Well
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  Speaker 1: did fast forward a year and what he did in
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  Speaker 1: December in the playoffs? He signed the contract. He went
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  Speaker 1: back to California. His wrist is healthy. All's well with
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  Speaker 1: number five, and the lows aren't as low now it's
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  Speaker 1: at least in training camp, he says. This year, as
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  Speaker 1: they have been in the past, one to three reps
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  Speaker 1: here there might go bad, but it doesn't linger for
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  Speaker 1: an entire tract. I mean last year, JP I he
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  Speaker 1: had some practices that you were you know, uh you I,
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  Speaker 1: everybody else was going that was terrible. And at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the practice you would sit there and go,
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  Speaker 1: is he hurt? Is there something wrong? Do they do?
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  Speaker 1: They need to open up the competition? You know, the
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the five interception practices obviously one to point towards, but
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  Speaker 1: that just wasn't the practice. Remember the practice that was uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was the practice that was held indoors over there
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  Speaker 1: at the Daily's place. And I remember Doug Brow went
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  Speaker 1: up to him after an hour of practice and he
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  Speaker 1: his performance was so bad And was it risk related?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I just know this clearly.
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  Speaker 1: He is better this year in training camp. Is is
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  Speaker 1: he all of a sudden Peyton Manning and practice whoa? Whoa?
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  Speaker 1: You know, no, not many are, first of all, but
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  Speaker 1: he's but he's getting better, okay. And I think also
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  Speaker 1: what will help him, which I think is you know,
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  Speaker 1: you remember last year watching Tom Brady in the New
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  Speaker 1: England Patriots practice on offense. How many different wide receivers
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: did Tom Brady worked with? Just the starters like his guys? It? Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: he had Edelman, Danny am Mondola and the new guy
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  Speaker 1: that they had acquired from the Saints who Brandon Cooks
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  Speaker 1: who was now with Ramsay. Those were history wide receivers
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  Speaker 1: and okay those were his four guys, and then the
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  Speaker 1: never never, never, never. Now Blake is working with anybody
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  Speaker 1: and everybody. And I think the more that things get
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  Speaker 1: that they will have. Okay, because now you have a
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  Speaker 1: comfort level with a couple go Look, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: develop a comfort level with many wide receivers. They got
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  Speaker 1: on the roster at one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, eleven.
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  Speaker 1: There's twelve white outs. Okay, So to try to find
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  Speaker 1: a chemistry with twelve different guys is impossible. It's easier
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  Speaker 1: to find a chemistry with three guys when you get
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  Speaker 1: don't know? And and and it could change a time
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  Speaker 1: or two. Okay, we you've watched practice for a week,
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  Speaker 1: has it gotten any clearer for you on who those
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logerman had coach. Doug Moron joined
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  Speaker 1: us in the first half hour tonight, our conversation continues
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  Speaker 1: logs with wide receivers and your point that in training
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  Speaker 1: camp in New England last year, Tom Brady worked with
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: three four of his main guys and that was about it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if you had to pick three or four main guys
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  Speaker 1: right now, who would they be? And I think it's
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  Speaker 1: it's become tougher as the week has going on here.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you can uh pick three guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know for this football team. And Okay, Donte Moncree
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  Speaker 1: free agent signing one year deal. Expectations pretty big for
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  Speaker 1: him to come in here and to make a big contribution,
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  Speaker 1: hurt off the side until he gets to be a
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  Speaker 1: if if you can't be that, you know, it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to make an impact. Markis Lee missed some time. He's
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  Speaker 1: I think if if you look at the wide receivers
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  Speaker 1: gonna make it, Okay, markis Lee, Healing, Cole and DJ
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  Speaker 1: Chark Jr. Okay, that's three. Moncrieff is four d d.
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  Speaker 1: Westbrook is five, and I think it will be tossed
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  Speaker 1: up between Rashad Green and Jaydon Mickens. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna keep six. Okay, so let's take six wide receivers. Okay,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: there's three primary guys when you go to your passing
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  Speaker 1: down offense. Okay, if you took all six names, put
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: him in a hat, shook him up, and I held
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  Speaker 1: my hat out to you and I said, pick three names. JP,
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  Speaker 1: you pick three names, put him out on the table.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be your starters for this week. Okay, take
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  Speaker 1: those names, put him back in the hat. Next week,
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  Speaker 1: shake that hat up again. Okay, I'm gonna have you
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  Speaker 1: picked three more. Now you're gonna put them down on
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: the table. That's your starters for that week. Okay, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna put him back in the hat. Check him back
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  Speaker 1: up again. Okay, pick three three, got him? Got him?
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: That's your starters for that that third week. I think
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: it may be like that all season long. I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I think that the three main guys could change week
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: to week depending on the matchup, depending on no. I
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: just think availability, health, and uh guys get hot, and
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: if God gets hot, then he's gonna stay in the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: Is not, then he will he will come out of
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the lineup. I think that there will be there will
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: be some consistencies. I think Keilan Cole has impressed me
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: more than any wide receiver in camp so far. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: think he's been very impressive. And I know a lot
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of people are are tooting horn of d J h
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  Speaker 1: R Jr. Couple days he's been good. But I think
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  Speaker 1: Heiling Cole has been has been very consistent. He's always
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  Speaker 1: been very dependable. He's been able to to be a
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  Speaker 1: vertical threat for this football team. And uh and I
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: just like his skill set. I think Marquis Lee has
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: been up and down so far in camp. He hasn't
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: really grabbed the attention, so to speak, so far in
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: training camp. I think Deeedy Westbrook has been good at times.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Everybody has been a little bit good at times, you know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: but no, but nobody's really consistent. And here's here's here's
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  Speaker 1: an example. You remember last year in training camp, who
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: is the best wide receiver in training camp? Hands down?
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Bar None wasn't even close the best in camp last year.
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I gotta remember last year. Now, he had
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a great camp no, no, no. They camp tell me
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  Speaker 1: Alan Romson hands down by far the best wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: and camp and it was obvious to everybody. Okay, everybody's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy is a monster. He's crushing it. Okay,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: is there one guy that you say in camp that
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: is hands down crushing it right now? No, not above
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  Speaker 1: beyond everybody else. Some of them that are good. That's
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: my point. I think. I think there's a lot of
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: these guys are all our group are good players. But
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  Speaker 1: at some point you'd like to have some of these
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  Speaker 1: guys separate a little bit, you know, separate from the pack.
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  Speaker 1: Get the coaches a reason to say, hey, you're number one,
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  Speaker 1: or you know what, you're two, and you're to A
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  Speaker 1: and your to B, and then that there's your three guys.
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  Speaker 1: That would be nice. Little time left o'clock's ticket though.
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  Speaker 1: you see the stadium shot we just had on sidelines underwater?
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  Speaker 1: Oh a little rain out side today. Glad you brought
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  Speaker 1: small little canoe. I might be here for a while.
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  Speaker 1: See right there, the water is not quite to the sideline,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: but like the sidelines where the bench area is, but
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: that's underwater. The warning track, gravel area, that's underwater. How
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: about that. Hopefully it drains out before tomorrow night, the
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  Speaker 1: family night scrimmage. I'll never forget. Uh. There was a
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: game in Carolina years ago that I called for when
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• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I mean like you've never seen it rain before. And
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: the water was like coming down the steps of the
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  Speaker 1: stadium and just piling onto the field. And to go
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  Speaker 1: from the tunnel to the field, it was a foot
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  Speaker 1: deep of water because they got kind of got that
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  Speaker 1: crown there on that field. I've never seen anything like it. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the drainage there was not built to handle that kind
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  Speaker 1: of rainfall that we had that day. Crazy anyway, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe a little drain before tomorrow. And I the
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  Speaker 1: time and then see the Jags and actually you saw
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: you heard Doug Moron earlier say, uh some more situational stuff.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: They've been working that a little bit more in camp
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  Speaker 1: this year as opposed to last. So first time under
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the lights for a lot of these guys in front
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: of some some fans. Hey, I'm looking forward to, uh
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: getting an autograph and checking the fireworks out they got
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: that from going on tomorrow. I too love it. Yeah,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I love it. Who you like tonight? Hall of Fame game, Bears, Ravens.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: So you got no, I'm not, I'm I'm asking. I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking forward. I'm looking forward to watching the young quarterbacks
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: play tonight. Okay, the young quarterback Drabinsky for the Bears
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: and then also for the raven the first round draft
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: pick Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson, Lar Jackson. You might see
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  Speaker 1: smart G three tonight as well. Could could very well know.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: That'll do it. We'll see you in a couple of
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: weeks preseason game next Thursday, two weeks away from the
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  Speaker 1: next Doug Moron show on the Jaguars Radio Network.