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What 3 Episodes on School Shootings Actually Taught Us (Full) · Solving America's Problems

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Michael: Day five and we’re not slowing down — whole episode, straight through.
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Here you go.
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Alex: Solving America’s Problems – the wrap-up episode nobody saw coming.
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[short pause]
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[slow, dead-serious] Jerremy and Dave just spent weeks dissecting school
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shootings with security experts, frontline teachers, and a mom who
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turned Parkland into Alyssa’s Law.
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[quiet intensity] They went in thinking tech, threat assessments,
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maybe some panic buttons would fix it.
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[voice drops] They came out realizing the entire system is quietly
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manufacturing the exact kids most likely to snap – garbage food, zero
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movement, over-medicated, buried in paperwork, and zero real community.
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[sharp] The money’s there, the budget’s massive, yet teachers are
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drowning and kids are simmering.
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[low, almost whispering] What actually broke in the nineties that turned this
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into an American epidemic, and why is almost nobody talking about the real root?
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Jerremy and Dave lay it bare.
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Jerremy Newsome: Ladies and gentlemen, solving America's
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problems is already blowing up.
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Tons of you are reaching out, asking, making statements, getting involved in the
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comments, telling us what's going right, what's going wrong, and that Is precisely
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what we want because over the next few years we're going to continue Building a
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beautiful framework and building block.
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It's not only a reshape and reform education, but continue to understand
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truly The solutions to America's problems.
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America being the greatest country in the world and therefore giving
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us the greatest problems to solve.
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And this episode, myself and Dave Conley, we are discussing and
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going through a reflective period about what we've learned from these
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episodes about school shootings.
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After spending time talking to experts, educators, and advocates, Dave and I
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realized we weren't the same people we were when we started the series.
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And maybe that's the exact same thing for you as well, our listeners.
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So today we're hitting pause to reflect, not just on what we
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learned from our guests, but how these conversations Changed us.
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Dave Conley: Yeah, we just didn't want to move on to the next topic and be like,
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okay, we put that in a box, here we go.
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Next topic.
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this was school shootings and school safety.
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We didn't want to just leave it behind knowing that we'll come back to this
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because it's ongoing and it's big and it's complex and it's simple in a lot of ways.
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So there a lot of stories here that I know stuck with me, stuck with you.
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let's take a beat and be like, okay, what was this all about?
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That's the idea.
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Jerremy Newsome: Yep.
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That's the idea because for our listeners, we just want you to all and understand
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the premise and the reason that we came out with school shootings as really
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our main priority is because it's just the most egregious thing to me.
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And again, as my Presidential campaign begins to evolve the focus on educational
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reform and understanding how massively impactful that is to our nation,
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to our country, to our citizens.
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Every parent that I talked to knows it's a problem and every
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child doesn't like school.
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But as we continue to progress and understand these things, we
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really have to just obviously talk about the safety of our schools.
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And man, in episode one, it was really awesome having Robert and
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Alonzo being there to just give us some guidance about what's going
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right in the private sector, right?
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Robert brought his tech driven perspective.
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Let's talk in cyber security, AI, advanced school safety technologies,
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and Alonzo, really being on the ground, providing conversations
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about real world experiences, things that he's done, sharing practical
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strategies from his military and security consulting background.
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Just gave us really a big complex, but also beautiful realization that
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there are people doing things, how many times you've heard Dave Oh,
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we should do something about this.
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Like when people get up in arms about whatever problem is happening, but
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this is an example that there are people doing something about this
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One of my goals is to put a big spotlight on that, continue to bring
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it to the forefront, let people know, see, feel, and understand it so that
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we can continue to hopefully maybe even put on a pedestal and just get
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the government more involved as well.
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So that we can have this collaboration, this cohesion, bring individuals
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together and start really championing this vision so that there's no more
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mass school shootings in the country.
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Dave Conley: 100%.
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that we started with Robert and Alonzo.
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It started to frame this from, I think, my bias, which is if we just pour money
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into threat assessment, which is the human element, and that's where Alonzo was, and
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if we just pour money into technology, And that really evolved for me over the course
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of this one because one part that freaked me out was these AI powered camera systems
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and these gun detection systems and I'm like, oh my God, at one point robot dogs
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walking around and I'm like, Oh my god, I don't even like going through TSA.
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I can't imagine sending kids into.
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I said it a few times in these episodes it's the cathedral versus the prison.
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And I come back to that.
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If we have beautiful places, then you're going to act and be beautiful.
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if you're in a prison, you're going to act like you've done something wrong.
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Jerremy Newsome: What Robert was sharing some pretty surprising
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examples about the ball.
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Remember the rocks like to prevent vehicle attacks?
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I was like, that seems so easy, all schools having
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these just boundary locations.
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These perimeters.
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Where you're placing rocks.
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And as he was talking about that, I was also thinking, okay inside those
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rocks, could you have some type of EMP radar he mentioned LIDAR detective
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system that just can track weapons.
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That's all it does
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Dave Conley: Okay.
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Jerremy Newsome: being trained or being systematized for that, meaning
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it can't pick up anything else, but if there is a weapon nearby and alert
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goes Can it be trained for that?
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Is there, something that can be placed potentially, Dave, there's something
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placed in every non military gun, right?
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Every civilian gun.
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That's just maybe a microchip or some type of device that this system can detect.
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Is this what you're thinking when he was talking about that?
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Or was it just me?
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Dave Conley: I think what came up a lot, over the course of this, I did start with
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oh, if we just poured money into it, if we had the, I don't even, I still don't
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know what digital twin actually means, like he used a lot and I just, in my
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mind, just dollar signs kept on going off and I'm like okay, sure, rocks are.
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a cheap solution to prevent somebody from driving into a
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school, but is that big of a threat?
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I don't know, man.
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Sure.
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Like it doesn't sound like a bad idea and I mean what came up in three in
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particular was how money is disconnected from the system, how little money actually
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gets down to where it needs to go.
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And the people who are making the decisions are being like,
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yes, of course, put metal detectors in every single school.
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I'm like does every school need that?
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And now you've got to keep these systems up to date.
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You have to have people who are screening students.
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can you imagine getting a thousand kids through a system every single day?
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Then you have set up like a TSA system.
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And I'm like, ah, I don't know.
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Is that the first place we start or the last place?
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And it felt like to me that it was the first place.
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I liked more of where Alonzo was coming from, which had a very
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human element of what's the threat?
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Where is the actual threat assessment?
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Alonzo A: If we're looking at the buildings themselves, we should have a
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baseline of where these schools are in the sense of a threat assessment, right?
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We've probably talked about or heard about threat assessments before,
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but a basic on a basic level.
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We can look at a threat assessment to see how vulnerable the schools are
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and just some things we can do across the board to make the school safer
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with, with the caveat that we're not making the schools feel like a prison.
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some baseline things we should look at, because that's gonna be a factor that
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it's okay, we can ramp this up, 1000%.
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But what are the low hanging fruit things that we can do to
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make things a little bit better?
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Dave Conley: And that came back in two and three from me is having a very
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human centric approach, having a student centric approach, having a teacher
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centric approach, and really focusing on where you need to put gas on something
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and where you need to put a break.
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It was priority seem overall, like the big picture of this priority seem
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completely mismatched with the actual
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Jerremy Newsome: and when you're saying two and three, you're meaning
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episodes two and three just for the listeners and to remind them very
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quickly, we're going to continue to touch on that in this episode, right?
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The episode two is the educator's perspective.
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So we brought three actual educators in who have worked in
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and around schools as teachers.
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And then we brought someone In episode three who actually had the unfortunate
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impact of all this happening.
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And so we really did our best to come full circle.
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If you think about it from a, all right, are there people who
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are working on actual prevention?
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All right, there are.
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Cool.
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Let's talk about that.
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And then the people who are in the schools, and then someone who's
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also working to prevent this.
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the prevention policy, the prevention piece.
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I love the word that you've just used the human perspective, right?
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That human centric focus where the big unfortunate, hairy, scary
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debate that's happening out there on social media is guns, right?
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Arm them to the teeth or take every gun away.
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No one should have a gun.
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Me and you both know that's never going to create a solution.
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When you are focusing on an amendment, when you're focusing on someone's belief
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structure, that particular topic, isn't what's going to solve this problem.
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And most people, the first time I mentioned this
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podcast and I talk about it.
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They actually generally do bring up gun violence and again to my point It's like
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I don't believe that's going to be the solution to an issue because it's too
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divisive There's too much you make one choice in one direction Someone's gonna
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a large swath of people are gonna get very angry at you, but there has to be
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To your perspective, if we begin to make these shifts in schools, if we begin
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to make these shifts where we really understand extremely well the profile
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of a child or teenager or young adult who actually commits this heinous crime,
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and then we begin to work on reverse engineering it, saying what caused that,
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at what time, Of the century did that begin to happen begin to build up begin
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to scale up really get some Professional specialists and I know we're working on
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this but get extreme details on who why?
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reverse engineer so that in our schools The individuals who are bullied, the
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individuals who have mental health, the individuals who do not feel like
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they're being heard or listened to, or the individuals who also feel
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like they're just not being seen.
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How can we create a culture where so much more shift is happening towards
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Conversations in school, openness, gathering more prayer circles, more
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conversation circles, more discussion circles where we are allowed and open to
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have conversations that flow conversations that spark interest conversations that
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allow child to know each other, to feel each other, to understand who each
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other is from a humanistic standpoint, so that way that they're no longer
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essentially these frustrated adolescent hormone driven on on loved and uncared
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for from a community standpoint, right?
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These children no longer feel like they are by themselves.
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There's a community.
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There's a group of individuals.
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There's a group of schools.
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There's a group of teachers.
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There's a group of Parents that are all just coming together to champion
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them and champion that vision.
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This is a, to your point, a humanistic standpoint that we can really
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gather together and start making the impact before it even begins, right?
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Starting at the root of the issue, which is that internal fear and frustration
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that at some point explodes into violence.
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Dave Conley: Yeah.
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I've been trying to fit it in my head as to all the different
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aspects that we looked at.
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And I think of it this way, there's a cause component, like there's
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a reason that this is happening.
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And there's a reason why it keeps on going up.
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And I think we've touched on a lot of those places, particularly when
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we talked to number two, and then there's this world of prevention.
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And identification, prevention and identification.
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It's okay, we have the monitors, we have the technology, we have the threat
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assessment, and in a sense, in my mind, the bombs already gone off, like we've
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already primed something and we're building all of these systems around it,
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what I learned throughout this is that it's not necessarily a quick solution.
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And then there's this protection element of, okay, don't arm the
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teachers, do arm the teachers, have the fortresses, there's this world of wow.
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I think with this very first episode, I'm struggling with what's going on?
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Can we even define this issue?
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There was a point where it came up that a school shooting isn't a school
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shooting isn't a school shooting, and we talk about it as one thing.
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What gets headlines are the mass shootings where, one student really just goes,
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crazy and just shoots, something up.
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And yet school shootings happen every single week.
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And when talking about threat assessment, these are happening
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from young boys, right?
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Like it's, we know that young boys are the ones that are doing this.
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And we know that it's different between urban and suburban and rural.
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We know there's this first episode brought it out of Oh, the people who are making
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the decisions are Seem to be treating it as a simple fix just add magic And
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yet it's more complicated than that.
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Don't what do you think?
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Jerremy Newsome: Yep.
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And what was nice is at one point when we were talking about the community
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integration that I was rambling on about there just a few moments ago when
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you talk about building relationships and creating communication systems
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that connect everyone involved.
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And then for our listeners to fast forward for a second to episode three
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on school shootings where we were having a chat with the wonderful Lori and she
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was discussing Alyssa's law, right?
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That formation of a really simple, very easy to implement, let's call it free
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Dave Conley: right?
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Jerremy Newsome: of dollars a month.
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Type of thing where it's okay, that got me excited because then you have
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boots on the ground individuals.
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And then someone who has already created something, a communication system, a
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pulse system that does work and being able to combine these two rapidly where
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you and I have also the capacity and the capability to connect Robert and Alonzo
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and Lori and saying, all right, sweet.
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Hey, here is.
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Here's Alyssa's Law.
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Here's this application that is currently up and running that
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is in almost a dozen states.
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And blend all of this together and going, alright, we can start chipping away.
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Here is definitely one thing to, to your point, and Alonzo said this very
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well, if and when this does happen again in the near future, we can at
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least prevent anyone from being injured.
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So if a school shooting happens.
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In the future and no one gets injured or impacted other than the shooter.
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That is a step in the right direction.
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There's a step in the right direction from a standpoint,
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especially of the mass shootings where numerous people get injured.
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If it's a gang violence situation, it's a one V one individual.
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That's obviously always gonna be a little bit harder to protect from a inside
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the school situation, but ultimately.
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I do really get excited, Dave, about the fact that we have people
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that have implemented something.
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We have people who are working on implementing things and who are planning,
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and these things can start getting married and getting brought together.
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And those ripple effects can absolutely create massive change quickly.
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Dave Conley: You're spot on.
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It came up in number two all about community.
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It came up in number three community.
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and like parents would pay anything to keep their kids safe.
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That's no doubt.
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Where do you think the disconnect is on community?
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And I'm just going to throw it out there There's going to be communities
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where they're just struggling to get by and they're just struggling to keep
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food on the table and roof overheads.
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And so I'm going to guess that involving the community is going to
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be harder than a wealthy community.
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so where do you think the policies, where do you think the practices what do you
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think might work in order to engage?
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All communities or help communities.
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Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
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That's what got me excited also about episode two when we brought
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the educators in and the teachers in cause that also got brought up a lot
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as well that just the word community.
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But to me a parent who has and had a teenager in school and a child
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in middle school, what helped the most was just getting notice, right?
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Having a communication with the community.
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So crazy example.
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This did not happen with the school that I was in, but you have all of the teachers,
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all of the parents and all of the children on a group communication application,
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call it a Facebook group, call it a WhatsApp group, call it a discord.
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They didn't have that.
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What this particular school did have, which they were very
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good at communication, by the way, very, I truly enjoy them.
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Every single week I would get an automated obviously updated voicemail
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phone call ring From the principal.
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So every week, it was like, hi, I'm I forget the principal's name off the top of
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my head, but it's hi, I'm XYZ gentlemen.
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And this is what we're doing this week.
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And it was a recorded message that he would send out.
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That was amazing.
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And they were great with emails and the teachers would email.
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But again, that's like a one on one that's very less, not a one to many approach.
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So imagine if all of the parents, teachers, and children get on this
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group, the children, if they're old enough, obviously, but they get into
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this group application, if you're just at the teachers and the parents and
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everyone sees what everyone's doing and we get, Planned ahead of time.
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Hey, three months from now on Thursday from six to eight,
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we have a mandatory XYZ.
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Dave Conley: Yeah.
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Jerremy Newsome: And they get reminders and they're told
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and we just get scheduled.
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And so when, again, I know this is a little bit of a challenge when
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it comes to planning, but when the school year starts, all the parents,
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it's mandatory that you come in
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Dave Conley: Yeah.
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Jerremy Newsome: for an hour, probably later, early in the
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morning some time where like you have a different blocks scheduled.
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You have a morning, you have an afternoon, you have an evening.
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And this was, again, this was a thing that the other school did
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that was really great is they had.
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pretty flexible meeting times for the parents and for the teachers.
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So you could choose all different times throughout the day because
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everyone understands, adults work and they have interesting schedules.
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So you have these different schedules to choose from that you can come in.
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But again, the thing that wasn't really awesome was just a early
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planning stage where at the very beginning of the year, all right, cool.
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Here's the four things that we're going to do.
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Here's the four times that we're going to do it.
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Here's the four days.
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It's very important for you to be here.
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That didn't truly happen.
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And it was like, all right, cool.
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We're having a school cookout and it just made it a little bit more
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challenging to move stuff around.
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Obviously I was able to do it, but a lot of parents I talked to had
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a little bit of a struggle there.
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Dave Conley: Sure.
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We've already slipped into a little bit of episode two.
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Why don't we talk about that in specific?
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Jerremy Newsome: that's nice.
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Dave Conley: talking to Eric and Jennifer and Danielle.
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All on the front line.
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These are the educators.
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These are the ones that are working with your kids right now and Even though I
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have a teacher in my immediate family and I've heard the stories I had no idea.
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This was like, this was the biggest.
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Oh, wow.
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Oh, no.
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For me.
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Just the challenges of managing the physical and mental well being of
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both the students and the teachers.
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And that so little time, so little money.
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That is the biggest budget item in most states is education.
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And as far as I can tell, very little of it is actually getting to the
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students and getting to the teachers.
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But yeah, what do you think?
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Jerremy Newsome: that is, and in future episodes for our listeners, we have some
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amazing economists, Business owners real estate professionals come in and just
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talk about budgeting and money and the budget Challenges of this country the
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debt that we're facing but to that point.
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Oh my gosh, dude, if that is not a glaring Oversight that I think
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most parents slash most adults.
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Yes We feel like we're getting taxed out of the face all the time Already.
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So there's that because you got to pay, you got to pay taxes on everything.
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You make money, got to pay taxes on it.
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You buy something, you got to pay taxes on it.
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You sell that thing, got to pay the taxes on it.
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You're already taxed from the money that you get.
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So you're paying the tax on tax dollars.
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You own your house.
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You got to pay like, we already feel like we're getting way overtaxed.
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And so then people are like, or what are we getting for our taxes?
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Where's all this money going?
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We mentioned this in that episode, but the education budget and I'm
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doing air quotes for my listeners was like the third largest budget
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in the U S it's it's up there.
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It's high.
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However, also fun fact, they have that education budget split out
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into seven different little sectors.
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And then each sector is like, Oh, okay, cool.
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Where's all that money going?
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And none of the teachers that I've talked to, we're going to talk
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to more for all of my listeners.
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And if you want to be a guest on our podcast, regardless of your profession,
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please reach out because our focus is to connect with you, the beautiful listener.
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You have a voice, you have an opinion.
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This podcast is very special and extremely unique because we are
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not biased in our political views.
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We are simply here to solve America's problems and we realize that it takes
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awareness, it takes diversity, it takes different ideas, it takes different
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beliefs, different backgrounds, different religions to all come
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together and just really understand, think and know what could be a
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awesome solution to a big problem.
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So that being stated, where's the money going?
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No teacher feels like they're getting enough.
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Dave Conley: So
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Jerremy Newsome: Most parents are aware that teachers aren't getting enough.
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We already know they're overworked and underpaid.
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Fix that, dude.
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Dave Conley: we are in, I'll call it terminal bureaucracy.
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Our schools, no.
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Nobody believes that Particularly these teachers it is like what
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we're doing now is not working.
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Here's some realities from this and some highlights jennifer said she had a panic
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attack during these drills that they
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Jerremy Newsome: Huh.
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Dave Conley: because They the kids don't take it seriously And what are
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they going to do to just keep them quiet during one of these things?
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And so there's this theoretical safety Plan in place and protocols, but it
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doesn't seem to be working at all in real life Then they talked about Jennifer again
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was like look I got 41 students per class and I didn't even know what these words
25:17
were until she described them 20 IEPs and 504 s which are these accommodations
25:23
that they have to do for every single student And this is what she said.
25:29
I don't really feel like I have time to teach because I'm just
25:32
doing paperwork all the time.
25:36
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
25:36
Dave Conley: Eric revealed that multiple schools often share
25:39
a single resource officer, underscoring serious security gaps.
25:43
He said, we're going to be on our own, left to get as many
25:46
kids inside as quickly as we can.
25:49
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
25:50
Wild.
25:51
Dave Conley: Come on.
25:52
On, these are so glaring.
25:54
this is terminal bureaucracy.
25:56
we have principals, we have assistant principals, we have vice principals, we
25:59
have all of this administration, all this overhead, and we have, Teachers that are
26:06
struggling to just get by during the day.
26:09
Oh, remember the food discussion?
26:11
Jerremy Newsome: Oh boy.
26:12
Oh yeah, I remember the food discussion.
26:14
Ha.
26:15
Yeah.
26:16
Here's a cool part for our listeners out there.
26:18
Would any one of you go to a school lunch and then snack
26:21
on a delicious school lunch?
26:24
You're laughing because we already know the answer is no.
26:27
I would instantly go into a carb overload.
26:30
Whereas to the point where if the parents aren't eating it, why would the kids?
26:34
if the kids don't like it and it's not healthy, I mean that's a whole other very
26:40
potential topic that we bring in and maybe some health discussions about America
26:44
being healthy because it's all going to revert back to our education system.
26:50
That's what I want people to understand is vast majority.
26:54
So when you're talking about healthcare.
26:55
which is really sick care when you're talking about all of us getting on
27:00
a global or a universal policy and everyone's paying for everything.
27:05
listen, America becomes much more healthy through a whole array
27:11
of topics, but one of them just being how do we start in school?
27:14
What do we actually eat in school?
27:15
I brought school lunches because my mom back then.
27:19
Knew
27:19
Dave Conley: Cause it was garbage.
27:20
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah, and to her point I sold everything in the lunchbox so that I
27:25
could make some money and I didn't really ever eat lunch, but beyond the topic.
27:30
But yes the administrative overload and the amount of Money that gets poured
27:38
into the top line to the midline to the bottom line should absolutely be
27:43
looked at Because if we're going to overhaul the education system, I think
27:48
it should be a profitable endeavor.
27:50
Profitable to the point where it's not losing money in the sense that everyone
27:54
that's paying for it feels like they're actually getting a return on it.
27:58
Return being smart, healthy, vibrant, excited children
28:04
that are also extremely safe.
28:06
That would be the return and I think if any parent really truly feels like they're
28:10
getting that they're not going to have an Issue making that investment towards
28:13
the future But I think we were looking at in that episode some of the salaries for
28:18
superintendents and the people that are a little bit higher above the principle.
28:22
And it was like, I need to quit what I'm doing and become a
28:27
superintendent like mid strong, six figures, 300, 200, 400 K a year for
28:35
Dave Conley: We should definitely ensure that the only meals they
28:38
have come from a school cafeteria.
28:40
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
28:40
Agreed.
28:41
Yep.
28:42
Big start.
28:42
Dave Conley: were you as surprised or shocked as I was that Phys ed
28:46
and getting kids out there and like burning off some of this energy
28:51
and health classes and any kind of mental, mental wellbeing out the door.
28:57
So much, not even afterschool curricular activities.
29:00
I remember Alonzo from the first episode saying, Hey, we don't wrestle anymore.
29:03
Like we don't, we're not like, we're not burning this off.
29:06
I know.
29:07
I remember you talking about why aren't we having like martial
29:09
arts and self defense and what's.
29:12
Were you surprised?
29:13
I was super shocked.
29:14
It's oh, wow.
29:15
What are schools doing now?
29:16
If Like basic physical stuff is out the window.
29:20
Jerremy Newsome: Out the window.
29:20
And I think the shift.
29:23
Again, from arts and from music and from creation.
29:28
I think someone at some stage, whoever that was, or whoever the
29:31
policy makers were, Oh, let's just make them really smart.
29:36
Math, history, science, reading, and let's just shove that into their face.
29:42
All the time.
29:43
I was like here's the thing.
29:46
That's not how people learn.
29:47
you create emotion through motion, and as you move, the
29:54
movements create memories, right?
29:56
Most people's favorite memories in life is probably where
30:01
some emotion was beautifully involved, and that emotion likely.
30:06
stemmed from some level of motion.
30:09
So meaning to the point of our children, including the
30:13
adults, like how do we learn?
30:15
You do not learn by sitting sedentary in a chair facing one
30:20
individual for many hours at a time.
30:24
Every single day repeating the exact same context information without knowing
30:27
why you're being taught it without understanding what's really truly being
30:31
taught the premise and the depth behind it there needs to be tons and tons of
30:35
engagement There are some private schools that are doing this There are some charter
30:40
schools that are doing this but from a public school standpoint It's like we
30:45
need to move these kids are seven, right?
30:52
They need to run my three and a half year old when he's feeling
30:56
healthy, which is not today.
30:57
I can hear him crying and the listeners can't hear him that the
30:59
kid, he has a little bit of a fever.
31:01
And anyway when he's feeling healthy, the guy will run like four miles
31:04
a day and I'm not exaggerating.
31:05
Just he'll run around the house.
31:07
So run around the kitchen nonstop and I got to chase him and that's what he wants.
31:12
He wants to play tag, but that's three.
31:15
Or he's going to run more when he's seven, 10 and nine, we
31:19
Dave Conley: where did he learn this?
31:20
Mr. Iron man.
31:21
Jerremy Newsome: I don't know.
31:22
I'm going to blame his mom.
31:24
He definitely has restless leg syndrome like I do for sure.
31:27
But the beauty is, man, we got to move these kids.
31:29
We've got like the Fizz Ed again, in my opinion, if I had a magic
31:34
wand and I'm waving this tomorrow.
31:36
We're getting these kids outside or in a gym, like as a collective group
31:42
doing martial arts, pushups, yoga, breathwork, breathing exercises,
31:48
two, three hours a day, minimum.
31:51
Dave Conley: I will tell you, my biggest learning from this episode two
31:54
is this, it's garbage in, garbage out.
31:57
Our kids are, under resourced all the way around.
32:02
They are not getting good enough sleep.
32:04
They're not moving.
32:05
they're not getting any support for their mental well being.
32:09
Their teachers are stressed out and overworked.
32:13
the kids don't have after school programs or creative outlets.
32:18
I don't think it's a stretch to say that we are causing our own problem.
32:21
we are creating more and more kids that are stressed, depressed,
32:26
and they're going to act out in completely unpredictable ways.
32:29
Am I saying that we're creating school shooters?
32:31
No.
32:32
But we're not helping.
32:34
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
32:34
That's a big, bold statement, man, but not helping in that, My whole goal and
32:39
mission is to prevent, at the same stage, when children have extreme anxiety,
32:48
fear and misunderstandings about who they are, their identity, where do we
32:55
really feel like that starts right?
32:57
Where do we feel like that begins?
32:59
It's just an awareness piece.
33:01
It's an awareness of who you are.
33:04
That's a very strong aspect as well, because individuals that are going to
33:09
feel the most depressed, frustrated, anxious, worried, right in certain
33:14
negative emotions, are those that don't have a very strong individual identity.
33:20
And again, just from that point, are we helping or hurting that right now
33:24
with some policies and some beliefs and some discussions in certain states
33:27
where we are letting children make too many blatantly destructive decisions?
33:35
Like we're letting 13 year olds and 10 year olds dictate what's being done
33:40
and what they feel and who they are we're listening to the imaginations
33:45
of teenagers that are still growing their mind that obviously see
33:48
things differently than adults do.
33:50
And so what I mean by that is, we all realize how amazing children
33:55
are and how creative and intelligent they are, but we can't let their
34:01
decisions dictate their life.
34:04
for example, and this is a joke, but not really.
34:07
This morning I was like Jason, what do you want for breakfast?
34:09
And he said poop.
34:10
He wanted poop for breakfast.
34:12
I was like, all right, cool.
34:12
Hey, three and a half.
34:14
The kid knows exactly what he wants for breakfast.
34:17
Family, we have to realize that we really have to care and understand.
34:24
Obviously, emotions are complex.
34:26
As we go through school, the school needs to be something that provides
34:31
so much acceleration, momentum, inspiration, courage, happiness.
34:37
And we're all adults.
34:39
So the adults have to sit down and go, How do I, as an adult, feel courage,
34:43
inspiration, motivation, happiness?
34:46
Who, with what music, doing what motions, what makes me depressed?
34:50
Slouching, breathing slowly, breathing shallow, slouching over,
34:58
pulling your shoulders down, not expressing yourself, being quiet
35:02
and not thinking and not breathing and not being aware and not moving.
35:07
Those are elements that create depression and sadness extremely often.
35:14
And so when you combine from the adult perspective, all of these aspects
35:18
that are absolutely going to create certain Emotions, negative emotions.
35:25
As adults, we know what creates positive emotions and we realize
35:29
that we need more motion in schools.
35:35
we're trying to medicate our children to slow them down, right?
35:39
We're giving them legal methamphetamines.
35:41
Which is Adderall.
35:43
Like you, I think you'd probably be extremely surprised, Dave.
35:46
I don't have the stat in front of me and I'm sure we can GPT it or
35:49
something, but the amount of children that are on Adderall is wild.
35:56
And it comes from this ADHD.
35:58
Or a d. D, dude, that is to me personally, so bizarre.
36:06
If there's anyone that has a DD, it's me, right?
36:08
Like I'm sure, but I would never label myself that way because I'm like, who?
36:13
Whatever.
36:14
I think a lot.
36:15
My brain's shift focus a lot.
36:17
I ramble a lot.
36:18
I get on tangents a lot.
36:18
I get on rabbit trails a lot.
36:20
Cool.
36:21
Figure out ways to bring it back to reality.
36:23
Figure out ways to pull and reign it in.
36:26
Without medicating me and that is just something that is just so
36:30
wildly bizarre man that we just automatically fix The energy and
36:36
exuberance of youth through medication
36:39
Dave Conley: Yeah.
36:40
Jerremy Newsome: wild.
36:41
Dave Conley: Oof.
36:42
So I think the theme kept on coming back to simple versus complex, right?
36:49
Yeah.
36:49
Yeah.
36:50
And, a pill is easy, it doesn't require any systemic anything, and
36:57
it's like a one on one where every kid's going to benefit from a really
37:03
beautiful, amazing environment.
37:05
They'll thrive, right?
37:06
Like as a kid that much different than a golden retriever.
37:09
It's like water them, feed them, play with them.
37:12
They're damn happy to see you give them an enriched environment
37:15
and they're going to thrive.
37:16
And the simple thing.
37:18
comes out of okay, just Medicaid them.
37:20
And because we're unwilling to fund or do the things that really fix this,
37:27
which is to do all of those things, which is to give the rich environment
37:31
to have afterschool programs to have support for kids that are in economic or
37:38
distress, to have, All of that available.
37:42
And at the same time, the teachers are doing everything.
37:46
They are our front lines and the bureaucracy is killing them when
37:52
they are our eyes and our ears.
37:55
They are probably the first person sometimes.
37:58
in these families to really notice that something's off with a kid.
38:03
And that's going to be so much better than any behavioral profile or social
38:08
media technology or anything else.
38:11
It's going to be the teacher that knows the kids the best being
38:14
like, oh, something's wrong.
38:16
And this teacher, and this kid needs some help.
38:18
Extra support somewhere.
38:20
And I am just frustrated with this is going to be a future episode when we come
38:29
back to this in school and school safety.
38:32
I need to know where this money is actually going because I don't get it.
38:36
It's like it's not going where it needs it.
38:39
Here was the quote.
38:40
Let me see if I can find it.
38:41
The quote from the brilliant Jennifer Weathers, we don't have the money for it.
38:46
Like the school doesn't have the money.
38:50
The schools are always cutting budgets.
38:54
Come on.
38:54
Jerremy Newsome: The word is always they are they're all like how there is zero
38:59
I could pick any school in the country walk up to any staff member and go.
39:03
Hey, do you guys You Get budget surpluses Are you getting tons of money?
39:09
Do you have all the money that you feel that you need that we're
39:11
talking public schools here?
39:12
Do you feel like you have tons of money?
39:14
Like you just have all of it and you are ready to rock and
39:16
roll You have so much supplies.
39:19
You have so much help.
39:20
You have so much assistance.
39:21
Like you got everything you need.
39:23
I'm absolutely not going to get strong confirmation on that
39:28
statement or that question, right?
39:29
It's just not going to happen.
39:31
Always getting budget cuts, dude.
39:33
So what you said?
39:34
Yeah.
39:36
Dave Conley: So when I think about the priorities of like safety in
39:39
schools and coming back to episode one, I hear about the robot dogs and
39:45
the digital twins and I get it right.
39:48
Like to me, that's the Adderall pill.
39:50
That's Oh, if we just did that, that will solve it.
39:54
And to some extent, sure, right?
39:56
It might.
39:57
I'm sure fewer school shootings happen at schools with metal
40:02
detectors and plenty of security.
40:04
I get it.
40:05
That sounds great.
40:07
But what came up in this episode two with the educators is, They aren't
40:11
getting any of the money for the funding.
40:13
So I want to spend money on technology that frees up these teachers
40:19
because they are our eyes and ears.
40:20
They are the ones on the front lines.
40:22
if they're spending all of their time doing administrative tasks,
40:25
these IEPs and 504s and all of that, then they're not teaching and
40:30
they're not paying any attention.
40:32
I want to put technology there.
40:33
You said it yourself.
40:33
you were connected to the community when you got these.
40:37
automatic emails, these automatic texts, and being all, so like it, it creates some
40:42
community, it creates some involvement, and that's where I'm spending money.
40:47
Jerremy Newsome: Yep.
40:47
Agreed.
40:48
No, I totally agree with you.
40:49
That is from a technology standpoint, right?
40:52
Oh, AI is going to help so many people.
40:53
Let's help these teachers, right?
40:55
Let's get them to, let's help them grade tests, shoot
41:01
messages out, track individuals.
41:03
I say track their students attendance, where, why, when, who, like we can
41:10
easily put in some of these systems.
41:12
And to your point I truly believe that we're happy to spend money there.
41:15
One of the things I would love to do is just find a way almost across the board
41:18
to pay teachers much more, but to also really understand who is in charge.
41:25
Why can't teachers be in control of what they're teaching?
41:29
Why can't we give them, Some level of, okay here's your free reign.
41:34
You have the class.
41:36
Let's allow you to understand you're going to be building this.
41:41
You can do this.
41:41
You can provide, you can instruct, you can teach.
41:44
And then there's obviously levels of governance and oversight, right?
41:46
Principals vice principals, but I'm excited to get.
41:50
In the future superintendents
41:52
Dave Conley: we got, yeah,
41:53
Jerremy Newsome: Ask them questions.
41:54
What are you doing?
41:55
Where is the money going?
41:56
Where do you get paid?
41:57
what do you do all day?
41:58
School board members, right?
42:00
We gotta start diving into this
42:02
Dave Conley: we have to because, like that's where the rubber meets the road.
42:05
I'm just guessing that for a lot of places that there is political pressure
42:11
that's put on the people who are actually making the decisions, the administrators
42:16
and the school boards, right?
42:17
They are elected or they have, strong special interests or they
42:21
have Parents who are putting pressure there and then that top down
42:28
approach filters to everybody else.
42:30
What I heard with episode two in particular and somewhat with three
42:34
with talking to Lori, is that we don't have a teacher centric approach and we
42:40
barely have a student centric approach.
42:43
So the people who are actually having to deal with this get everything
42:47
put upon them And aren't being listened to as far as I can tell
42:51
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
42:52
Yep.
42:52
They're not.
42:53
And I'm sure the teachers would go on strike if they could, right?
42:59
If they could, meaning they know going on strike already is going to
43:02
create massive economic concerns.
43:05
Kids aren't going to be able to go to school.
43:07
What are they going to be doing all day?
43:09
But also, the truth is, Dave, most teachers don't have that heart.
43:12
They don't have the heart for, pay me more, I want a bunch of money.
43:16
They really do start.
43:18
I would say statistic I'm making up right now.
43:21
85 plus percent of teachers have the heart that they want
43:25
to teach because they love it.
43:27
They get motivated and inspired by, and I'm speaking from the heart of a teacher.
43:32
When I teach someone something that they did not know, and I helped them
43:35
understand it and see it and just practice it and then begin to implement it.
43:40
That brings me so much joy.
43:42
my day and week and month becomes brighter, becomes more
43:47
excited, becomes more purposeful.
43:49
I feel more alive.
43:50
I feel happier on all fronts when I'm living my purpose, which is to truly
43:55
provide mentally liberating education.
43:58
So for other, go ahead.
44:00
Dave Conley: The reason that teachers are teaching you said
44:03
it they're passionate about it
44:05
We are getting extremely passionate people and that's amazing.
44:09
And I think that's the bailing wire and tape that we have on this.
44:12
And it seems like it's just on the edge of disaster or maybe
44:16
it's already off the cliff.
44:17
I don't know, but all I know is that the money's not getting to the right
44:20
place because there's an enormous amount of money and it's going somewhere.
44:25
Where is it?
44:25
Jerremy Newsome: Exactly.
44:26
It's going somewhere.
44:27
Where is it?
44:27
That's going to be a great topic.
44:30
Dave Conley: Yeah, go ahead.
44:31
Jerremy Newsome: if we're talking about, we've had a great discussion in general
44:35
over episode one, episode two, and then episode three from tragedy to action.
44:42
With Lori, who just had so much bravery, so much power, so much dedication to
44:48
saying, listen, what happened to me, let's just work on preventing this.
44:53
Let's work on creating structures in place so that this does not happen
44:59
again, turning a mess into a message.
45:02
And she is.
45:04
Doing so much advocacy work.
45:07
And it's really inspiring that she is creating change implementation right now.
45:11
She's making it happen.
45:13
So her losing her daughter on February 14th, Valentine's day, 2018, it
45:18
was very moving and she was just recounting what occurred on that
45:22
day and then allowing herself and allowing her strength to go, all right.
45:30
I lost my daughter.
45:31
And it was a very moving episode for us to work on,
45:36
Dave Conley: Oh, for sure.
45:37
It wrapped up this series really nicely for me because what I heard was, yeah,
45:43
there's absolutely technical solutions out there and they're not that expensive.
45:47
In fact, Alyssa's law has a panic button and she said it, look, government
45:51
offices, courtrooms, banks, like all of these places have panic buttons.
45:56
Like it's ludicrous that the place that we send our kids to
45:59
doesn't have a panic button.
46:00
That's.
46:01
bonkers.
46:02
And she was like, it's as simple as loading it onto a teacher's phone.
46:08
And I'm like, Oh my God, come on.
46:09
It's an app,
46:10
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
46:11
Dave Conley: So they're very approachable technical solution.
46:14
And then it was all about community.
46:16
Like she lived through this.
46:18
And so they have the moss clubs, which is engaging the students.
46:22
They have the community action stuff.
46:24
All of those changes and Alyssa's law, that had been passed in a bunch of States.
46:28
I don't know.
46:29
It really brought together episode one, which had, technology and had really
46:34
looking at profiling and then episode two, which is okay, we've got these.
46:38
These students that are in this rough place and this teachers in this
46:42
rough place and then episode three was like, okay, Hey, we hear you.
46:45
Here are some things.
46:46
And I'm like, Oh, okay.
46:48
That sounds pretty good to me.
46:49
What, like, where, what did you, what were your thoughts on it?
46:53
Jerremy Newsome: My thoughts were, I loved that she not only demonstrated swift
47:00
change is possible when there is political will and having the private sector do so
47:09
much of this lift and get a lot of this.
47:13
In motion, I think just brings awareness to certain people and to certain
47:18
political parties where it's like, all right, let's start creating some change
47:21
because I'm very happy that it happened.
47:25
Obviously, me and you are extremely excited for these changes to
47:28
be ratified radically quickly.
47:33
And although I still feel like there's gonna be tons and tons of very molasses
47:39
like legislation that gets passed, it will require individuals like Lori, like
47:44
me and you, like our listeners to step up and go, we know this is a problem.
47:48
Let's keep chipping away.
47:50
Let's keep having discussions, which we're going to have plenty
47:52
of future discussions because this podcast is going nowhere other than.
47:56
farther, faster, and deeper to learn, to create solutions, to understand
48:03
some of the problems more, to realize that both you and I know very little
48:09
about the ginormous complexities that is the machine of America, but also
48:14
understanding every problem written down is already halfway solved.
48:19
So to begin to just simply say that there are possibilities, there are shifts, there
48:26
are changes, and one person can create not only a difference but an impact.
48:32
Lori literally showed us that, Dave.
48:33
She literally, physically, metaphorically created true change and true impact.
48:41
In seven states with numerous schools adopting Alyssa's law and the app
48:46
that you mentioned Seems so simple.
48:50
So it's a quick fast solution where it's hey, This doesn't require a lot of taxes.
48:54
This is dozens of dollars a year for individuals.
48:58
This is something that should happen quickly.
49:00
Dave Conley: A hundred percent.
49:02
I don't know.
49:02
yeah the work that Lori's organization does is a no brainer and her story and
49:08
story of Alyssa, really hit home with me I think we have these discussions
49:12
about politics about, whatever the issue is, whether it's school shootings
49:17
or health or debt bringing really personal impactful stories to things
49:22
really moves the needle for people when you can start feeling somebody
49:26
else's pain You're like, oh, okay.
49:29
I get it.
49:30
You don't have to show me any statistics about how weird things are but when you
49:35
tell me the story about this personal tragedy it really moved the bar.
49:39
she said it over and over again, which is that she is making systemic change through
49:46
the tragedy of losing her daughter.
49:48
I'm like, ah, I got to remember that.
49:50
I think our audience needs to think about this if you want things to move
49:55
then connect with somebody's heart.
49:58
Jerremy Newsome: Correct.
49:59
Cause that's where the change happens.
50:01
When we dig into the emotions, when we understand who's impacted, how
50:05
they're impacted, how frequently, that's the thing that surprised both
50:10
of us, as we looked into some of the statistics for school shootings.
50:16
You said a few times, the ones that most shock us obviously are the huge
50:21
ones, the mass shootings that are just so diabolical, but there are
50:27
also so many small ones that occur.
50:30
Where it's one, two, three people potentially gang violence or just
50:34
someone very upset at one other person.
50:37
And the fact that it happens again, not someone getting beat up.
50:41
like a 1975 high school film where two people just fight it out.
50:45
Like we probably all want to resolve our issues as a teenager.
50:49
Just go fight it out, dude.
50:51
But bringing a gun into school and solving the issue that way for
50:57
that particular individual is just obviously extremely ludicrous.
51:01
So what I see, man, is that there are changes that are being made.
51:08
And for our listeners, it's a topic that's going to continue to become more
51:12
and more large, more and more wide as we continue to just go down the issue,
51:19
have conversations with people, knowing that it's a problem and knowing also
51:23
that it is solvable and can at least be decreased dramatically, right?
51:29
The amount of school shootings.
51:31
have increased so abhorrently over the last decade that it's truly mind
51:38
blowing, mind altering, emotionally shifting, where you gotta go, there
51:42
has to be something done about this.
51:44
Yeah.
51:46
Dave Conley: And I know I brought it up a bunch of times,
51:47
which is okay, what happened?
51:48
It seemed like Columbine really kicked this off in the late nineties.
51:53
And then it's just, it's been a wildfire.
51:55
I'm like, okay what's going on?
51:58
You like I don't know.
51:59
Like I've, we haven't dug into that cause enough for me.
52:03
I heard a lot of things that we can do, but it's Yeah.
52:06
What happened in the nineties, man?
52:07
what's going on?
52:08
So I don't know.
52:09
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
52:10
Dave Conley: We,
52:11
Jerremy Newsome: that there needs to be more research on it, but to your point,
52:14
something happened and the word obviously got thrown around a bunch of social media.
52:18
And I think a lot of us as adults know that comparison is the thief of joy.
52:21
And so we know that's happening, but it's not like we're going
52:24
to get rid of social media.
52:25
It's not like we're going to get rid of phones.
52:28
That's not going to happen.
52:29
But is there a way to work out those discussions, work out those
52:34
conversations, let children know that it's okay to have conversations your
52:37
peers, about how they're feeling or why they're posting or why they said
52:41
this, and just be more open about it.
52:42
And just, again, to your point, have conversations, have communication
52:46
and let that healing take place.
52:47
Let teachers, counselors, guidance, counselors.
52:51
Individuals that have the skills to just sit down and moderate some of this inside
52:58
of schools to allow healing to occur.
53:01
But yes, there has been and was some megalithic shift that occurred in the U.
53:08
S. specifically.
53:09
Dave Conley: Like the rest of the world has the internet and they
53:11
didn't have an uptick and all of this.
53:13
so I don't know.
53:14
there's something in there, like maybe it's a little bit of a lot of things.
53:17
Maybe it's,
53:18
Jerremy Newsome: yeah,
53:19
Dave Conley: in our food.
53:20
Jerremy Newsome: But it's something.
53:20
Dave Conley: it's any one thing I'm not going to say it's the internet.
53:23
I'm not going to say it's social media.
53:24
I'm not going to say it's any of this, but it might be a lot of different things.
53:27
It's like something happened.
53:29
I, at least in the research, it didn't seem again, guns weren't
53:33
the thing or the accessibility of guns, because actually that's been
53:37
about the same all these years.
53:39
So I was like, man, what happened at Columbine?
53:42
I'm like, when I was growing up a million years ago, it's like
53:45
they blamed music on everything.
53:47
It's like listening To rap music, which was really launching in the late
53:51
80s and early 90s, actually it was Tipper Gore, Al Gore's wife, who really
53:55
spearheaded this whole thing about putting warning labels on all the albums
54:00
and the cassettes CDs, and at least for me and my friends, that marked the
54:05
albums that we wanted to listen to.
54:06
It's Oh, good.
54:07
It's got a sticker on it.
54:08
Let's go.
54:09
Jerremy Newsome: Yeah.
54:09
The parental advisory sticker.
54:11
Dave Conley: Yeah.
54:12
Jerremy Newsome: Quick fact check though, Dave it was 2 million
54:15
years ago that you were in school.
54:18
Dave Conley: 2 million years ago.
54:21
Jerremy Newsome: That's the birth of, I would probably just say more
54:26
freedom of speech as well, right?
54:29
Where you are allowed to say whatever you want as an artist and you can
54:34
create that and you can publish that.
54:35
And the more grotesque it is to your point, the more it
54:41
probably attracts the youth and.
54:44
There's also all the people that did listen to NWA and Eminem
54:50
and Marilyn Manson that like
54:52
Dave Conley: best
54:53
Jerremy Newsome: Korn and Slipknot that did not do anything negative as well.
54:56
Dave Conley: right.
54:57
Jerremy Newsome: Percent of all those listeners.
55:00
It's a very interesting piece.
55:01
And I think the fun topic also in future episodes really just will be
55:06
that mental health awareness, right?
55:08
if we can find maybe a profiler for the FBI and say the individual that
55:13
undergoes and performs as a mass school shooting, what did happen to them?
55:19
And how do we prevent it?
55:20
How do we lessen the likelihood that happens to a child, whatever it is?
55:26
And that is, I think, probably going to be a very strong root concern and root
55:32
cause for how we do make proper shifts and proper impact so that this doesn't occur.
55:37
Dave Conley: one key thing, what I didn't know before this that I know now that
55:44
came up in all episodes was community.
55:48
And if we're looking at a root cause.
55:53
There is something about community, like we are probably more connected
55:58
than we ever have been in humanity and yet we're feeling more alone.
56:03
We see that actually in other areas and this came up in
56:07
episodes 1, which is community.
56:09
Things get better with community.
56:12
Jerremy Newsome: Huh.
56:12
Dave Conley: future I definitely want to understand like where the money's
56:15
going and all that other stuff.
56:17
There, That's great.
56:18
And there's a rich chocolatey center at the middle of this which is
56:22
something to do about community.
56:25
That seems to be, the lack of community or, pretending we have community when we
56:29
don't, or something's been lost there.
56:33
Jerremy Newsome: Yep.
56:34
And I think probably a very valid argument would be.
56:39
Parents got to work more dog.
56:41
Like we've got to work two jobs to pay for things.
56:45
The carton of eggs over here where I live, no joke is 11 and 68 cents before taxes.
56:50
Dave Conley: It's a dollar a piece.
56:52
Jerremy Newsome: A dollar an egg dog.
56:54
When I was
56:55
Dave Conley: Oof.
56:56
Jerremy Newsome: I sold a carton of eggs for a dollar.
56:58
That's the exact opposite.
57:00
So that's the thing is like the parents got to work so much.
57:02
It's really hard for us to get away.
57:04
It's hard for us to create the community.
57:05
It's a challenge for us to actually break away from the.
57:11
day to day grind to actually be there and to spend time as a community.
57:16
And so that's obviously the challenge too.
57:18
So to that point, I think also that solution lies in education reform
57:24
because all parents were once children.
57:27
Fun fact, biology, hashtag science.
57:30
And when we understand that.
57:33
We go, yep, we were all once kids and we now know what we learned in school.
57:37
If schools begin to also just simply discuss financial literacy every
57:44
day, there can be a wealth and a prosperity shift in this country
57:49
where people are investing more.
57:51
They are spending a little bit less, or at least they understand how to spend less.
57:55
They understand how to create surplus.
57:57
They understand the assets and liabilities.
57:59
They know how to invest in and what to invest in.
58:01
They understand that mindset.
58:03
They understand the entrepreneurial mindset.
58:04
They understand different saving vehicles and different retirement
58:08
vehicles and how early one can start.
58:10
Oh my gosh.
58:12
Just knowing some of those components, knowing how the stock
58:14
market works, knowing how to make Wise or wiser investments
58:19
decisions that are more beautiful for the longevity of a portfolio.
58:23
Those are things that can be discussed.
58:25
And again, even if the teachers specifically do not know themselves,
58:29
which I think is really oftentimes the case, that's where I do believe that
58:33
a lot of the education reform is going to come down to having a one to many
58:39
approach where what was That one really popular workout that took everyone by
58:44
storm, like in the early 2000s that you would put on a DVD and people
58:48
would work out Yeah, let's say P90X.
58:51
Sure.
58:52
So let's say an example of every gym, every school in the country
58:56
has to play P90X or their version, and everyone's working out
59:01
simultaneously for a good hour.
59:03
And again, you adapt that level of intricacy and that level of
59:07
education to also potentially science or history and financial literacy.
59:13
The reason I was making that example is you can have a one to many
59:17
approach versus one teacher to 30 kids or 40 kids where they feel
59:21
overwhelmed and they feel worried.
59:22
Now you have the best of the best.
59:25
Someone teaching speaking voice lessons, piano lessons, body language.
59:33
financial literacy, history, science, Bill Nye, the science guy, right?
59:37
You create this.
59:39
This is one of the best teachers on earth teaching about this particular subject.
59:43
They teach that particular subject.
59:45
The teachers are there learning with the kids.
59:48
They're there understanding and helping and being a guidance and being a control.
59:52
And after the taping or the giant class exercises over, then they all
59:57
come together and have conversations about what went right, what was cool,
1:00:01
what was unique, what stood out.
1:00:03
What I'm saying is there are shifts that can easily be made where you put the best
1:00:08
of the best in front of our children.
1:00:10
We allow our teachers to do an incredible job, to have more space, to
1:00:15
have more flexibility, to have time to think, to plan to create, to schedule.
1:00:20
And when you make these prioritizations.
1:00:23
That also does allow the community to become more involved because if the
1:00:26
teachers are able to plan more and give a lot more notice to parents and
1:00:33
really plan and dictate and create and prioritize, that's how that community
1:00:37
can easily become more involved, especially in communities that presently
1:00:40
don't have much of an involvement.
1:00:42
Dave Conley: I love that.
1:00:43
let me also I'm sure we've had people who've listened to the series and
1:00:47
they might be freaked out, they might be inspired, whatever it is.
1:00:52
Based on what we learned, as we sat through all of these with amazing people,
1:00:58
What are steps that our audience can take today, or this week, or this month,
1:01:04
or this year, that you think will move the bar for safety in school shootings?
1:01:11
Jerremy Newsome: I think one of the big steps is get on
1:01:13
podcasts and talk about it.
1:01:16
The mainstream media, mainstream news I heard a statistic last night.
1:01:22
the average news station has a hundred thousand views weekly, which is small.
1:01:30
the people that are now being viewed the most are influencers, social
1:01:34
media influencers, podcasters, people with voices, people that
1:01:38
spend time to do the research.
1:01:40
As parents, as teachers, as community members, go get on those shows.
1:01:44
Get on this show right here, Solving America's Problems.
1:01:48
Come on and voice your ideas, your beliefs, what you believe the changes that
1:01:53
could or should easily be implemented.
1:01:56
Bring those to people that are making waves in the solution arena.
1:02:01
Also, I would think that the best thing you can do is have, Parents have
1:02:06
conversations with these teachers.
1:02:08
maybe call them on the phone, maybe schedule a sit down where you can
1:02:11
come in, be a part of the classroom for, I don't know, 17 minutes.
1:02:15
Come in early one day on your day off, spend time to really care and see
1:02:20
the struggles of the teachers, talk to them, have conversations, because
1:02:24
the conversations are what's missing.
1:02:26
The conversations between parents.
1:02:28
And the teachers, parents, and the school staff, parents, and the
1:02:31
school administration, but parents and the kids, and the teachers,
1:02:35
kids, and the school administration.
1:02:36
These are conversations that are lacking
1:02:38
Dave Conley: I that's the number one for me.
1:02:40
If somebody is passionate about this topic and school safety, go talk to
1:02:45
your kids teachers and just ask them.
1:02:48
Hey, how do you feel about this?
1:02:50
What do you think needs to be done?
1:02:52
What would make this easier for you?
1:02:54
And just listen to them.
1:02:56
And then that will develop the action plan because I know that it's
1:03:00
going to be different from school to school from urban, suburban or rural.
1:03:05
I know it's going to be different from state to state and community to community.
1:03:08
And so when you start getting curious, like me that's the moment
1:03:12
where action leads to change.
1:03:16
Jerremy Newsome: yeah, absolutely.
1:03:17
And to that point, if you are a listener, thank you so much.
1:03:22
If you've worked in policy or advocacy.
1:03:25
Come tell us what barriers you have faced from getting some of these solutions
1:03:29
that we've mentioned implemented.
1:03:30
we want to hear from you, right?
1:03:32
Hop on this podcast.
1:03:34
Let us use our skill sets and our technologies and our
1:03:38
networks to just come together.
1:03:39
And again, start building a really beautiful, cohesive platform over
1:03:43
the next three to seven years, as we continue to build and go forward
1:03:47
to just really understand see and feel what we truly can do because
1:03:54
we're not done solving problems.
1:03:57
There's going to be all of
1:03:58
Dave Conley: ever?
1:03:59
Jerremy Newsome: We're never going to be done.
1:04:01
There's always going to be problems.
1:04:02
There's always going to be challenges, but here's the beautiful part.
1:04:06
if you are a praying type and you ask God for strength, God
1:04:11
doesn't give you more strength.
1:04:14
It gives you bigger rocks to push challenges to overcome hurdles to climb
1:04:18
over so that you can become Stronger on your own the beautiful part of
1:04:24
all this is As we have challenges, we just simply have to sit down and
1:04:27
go, we know that there's problems.
1:04:29
We know that there are solutions.
1:04:30
Let's begin to tackle them.
1:04:32
Let's begin to chip away at them.
1:04:34
And I truly believe in my heart of hearts, the core change that will
1:04:39
alleviate so many of the burdens of this country is education.
1:04:43
And as you unravel, tweak, adjust, grow and expand the version of how we can
1:04:50
impact our Children closer and more.
1:04:53
We want to really focus on what we can do going forward.
1:04:57
So speaking of one of those, as I briefly mentioned in this episode, we
1:05:03
got some big things to talk about next.
1:05:06
One of them being This giant deficit that we're in, right?
1:05:11
The financial consequences of the country.
1:05:16
That's something that's not going to go away.
1:05:18
We really need to focus on that.
1:05:21
So we are diving next into college, going again into education and talking about,
1:05:31
all right, as part of this giant national looming debt that we're in, none of you.
1:05:38
Are prepared or ready for how much of that debt is being burdened
1:05:44
by people going to college.
1:05:47
So it's going to challenge us in ways that Dave and I did not expect.
1:05:52
Every single one of you are going to get absolutely just thrashed by what
1:05:56
you think is going on in colleges.
1:05:57
We have so much discussion on that topic.
1:06:00
After the kids are in school, where do they go?
1:06:01
Next is college still worth it so much discussions and topics on that day of
1:06:07
our listeners are going to be pumped
1:06:10
Dave Conley: thank you all for listening to this wrap up episode of Solving
1:06:14
America's Problems with your co hosts, Dave and Jeremy, and we're looking
1:06:19
forward to seeing you next time.
1:06:21
Jerremy Newsome: Yep.
1:06:22
See you family