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Chuck & Buck 12-26 hour 3: The Ocho, Refsnyder's role and Chuck's playoff picture is shaping out!! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 3: Well, Merry Christmas, and a happy football Friday to you all.
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Speaker 3: It's Chuck Powell, It's Ashley Ryan with you here on
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Speaker 3: No Bucky Jacobson today though, So it's Ashley and I
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Speaker 3: Saber responsibly make a nice holiday gift. Nearly as nice
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Speaker 3: as a pair of those David's offty mall their pants.
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Speaker 2: I saw him showing off.
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Speaker 4: Who wouldn't want to ward David's face all over themselves?
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Speaker 2: That had to have been a gena idea.
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Speaker 4: I assume so plus she's the only one who calls
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Speaker 4: him David.
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Speaker 2: True. Yeah, I knew I did like them. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think we could sell them in the team shop here, yeah,
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Speaker 3: KJR and probably sell a few of.
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Speaker 4: Those, which is actually very concerning.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that people would wear them to, you know,
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Speaker 3: high falutin functions, but I think see.
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Speaker 4: Them wearing them down the streets.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just down the street to the game, just at home,
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Speaker 3: relaxing comfortably as Softy looks up at you, Cann's face
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Speaker 3: on your pants.
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Speaker 4: Can you relax comfortably with those on?
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Speaker 2: No? No, no, in party mode? Yeah, you're gonna put.
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Speaker 4: Those Maybe I'll get them for New Year's.
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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I loved it. Good idea, Gina. All right,
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Speaker 3: let's get it going. Eight top stories of the day
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Speaker 3: for you. It's the Friday Oat Show. The Seahawks will
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Speaker 3: be in action Sunday at ten am against the Carol
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Speaker 3: Line of Panthers. Greg bell, our Seahawks insider, joined us
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Speaker 3: this morning and gave us his key to victory.
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Speaker 5: It's like any other game. The Seahawks are more talented
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Speaker 5: than this team. They should beat him. They have a
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Speaker 5: better roster, they're coaching their schemes. They should win this game,
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Speaker 5: so don't turn the ball over and let the team
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Speaker 5: get back in it. The turnovers are the great equalizer
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Speaker 5: in football, and when you don't turn it over, the
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Speaker 5: better team wins. That's almost always the case, home or
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Speaker 5: away weather conditions, playoff, regular season. If you don't turn
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Speaker 5: the ball over, the better team almost always wins. And
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Speaker 5: that's the turnover margin stat in football is so telling.
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Speaker 5: The Seahawks again have a quarterback who leads the league
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Speaker 5: in turnovers. Now, I know he's in better over the
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Speaker 5: last few games, but that's still the issue for this
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Speaker 5: team to me. As long as they aren't derailed by
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Speaker 5: giving the ball away, they will beat teams they're better than. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: and I think that's going to be the case on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that probably will be.
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Speaker 3: Both the Seahawks and Panthers have a divisional title on
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Speaker 3: the line the next two weeks. Unlike Carolina, the Seahawks
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Speaker 3: have already punched their ticket to the playoffs. Carolina still
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Speaker 3: has to earn that invitation to the dance. But unlike Carolina.
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Speaker 3: Also unlike Carolina, the Seahawks they don't have a chance
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Speaker 3: to walk off the field knowing their division champs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, where Carolina does.
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Speaker 3: A Carolina victory and a Tampa Bay loss and they're
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Speaker 3: both playing the early games on Sunday means the Panthers
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Speaker 3: have a chance to pay possibly walk off the field
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Speaker 3: as division champs this year, where the Seahawks would have
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Speaker 3: to at least wait until Monday night in order to
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Speaker 3: celebrate that. And I don't think we're gonna have the
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Speaker 3: chance to celebrate that, not this week.
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Speaker 6: No, I think we've got to earn every single ounce
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Speaker 6: of it. And it's gonna take a win this week
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Speaker 6: and a win next week. So one at a time,
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Speaker 6: let's go.
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Speaker 3: Hawks may start Tyokata at safety Kobe Bryant injury there. Also,
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Speaker 3: we know that Derek Hall's been suspended from the league
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Speaker 3: for a game and he will not be available to
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald and his defense. Meanwhile, Carolina has activated the
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Speaker 3: window for return for their best offensive lineman, Robert Hunt,
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Speaker 3: who's been out since week number two of the season.
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Speaker 3: So they've gotten here without their best offensive lineman and
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Speaker 3: one of their leaders of their clubhouse, and every article
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Speaker 3: that you read that's being pumped out by those that
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Speaker 3: cover the beat for the Carolina Panthers talk about how
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Speaker 3: significant it is to get Robert Hunt and he could
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Speaker 3: be the difference between them making the playoffs and not
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Speaker 3: making the playoffs. But he still has to play. He
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Speaker 3: does to be ready to play, and so man, you
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Speaker 3: just activated him off of the IR which he's been
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Speaker 3: on since the second week of the season, It'd be
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Speaker 3: hard for me to believe he's going to be ready
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Speaker 3: to play limited practice throughout the course of the week
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Speaker 3: in time for Sunday's game. Maybe it's just in time
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Speaker 3: for that crucial Buccaneers game following week, but there is
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Speaker 3: a chance Carolina is getting its best offensive lineman back,
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Speaker 3: just in case you were wondering.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think it would be making more sense
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Speaker 4: for them.
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Speaker 6: But if if it comes down to next week and
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Speaker 6: that's when they've got to pull out all the stops
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Speaker 6: to get into the playoffs, that's that's what their plan is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, would surprise me. Despite being on the road, Vegas
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Speaker 2: believes and the Seahawks. They are a seven point favorite
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Speaker 2: heading into this game.
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Speaker 3: NFL Week number seventeen started yesterday on Christmas Day, and
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Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos they have the best record in the
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Speaker 3: National Football League right now.
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Speaker 7: Nick Gonna run it and he's gonna run it into
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Speaker 7: the end zone touchdown right through Hicks at the end
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Speaker 7: of the run. Next is rolling mixt will throw and
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Speaker 7: it's cut from the touchdown by R J.
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Speaker 2: Harvey. It's been a good week for al Michaels.
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Speaker 3: Boy, he's gotten kind of crushed the last couple of
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Speaker 3: weeks for his lackluster play by play calls.
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Speaker 6: Well, and I can see why he has when that
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Speaker 6: Seahawks Thursday night game should have been like the most
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Speaker 6: exciting and he could have really stepped it up a bit.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Bob Costas had to kind of confront
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Speaker 3: this recently. You know that maybe I'm not on the
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Speaker 3: top of my game, and then half the audience doesn't
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Speaker 3: know how good I used to be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, And man, considering that I'm one of.
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Speaker 3: The greatest broadcasters of all time, really don't want to
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Speaker 3: go out with people thinking I stink at this job.
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Speaker 3: And yet that's kind of what's going on without right now.
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Speaker 3: So for his sake and his reputation, I hope that
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Speaker 3: he does hang it up after this year. I don't
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Speaker 3: like seeing Al Michaels and Bob Costas get criticized, even
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Speaker 3: though their game has slipped considerably well.
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Speaker 6: And I think the thing with Al too is it
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Speaker 6: just sounds like he's uninterested. It's not even like he
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Speaker 6: just is, you know, messing up and he's trying and
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Speaker 6: he's got the excitement he I mean, he does not
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Speaker 6: sound like he cares at all to be there.
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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying that's where he's at, but it comes off
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Speaker 2: that way.
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Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 6: And so then it's like, well, you could fix that
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Speaker 6: on your own, yeah, and it just and so that's
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Speaker 6: where I get frustrated.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, you just don't seem like you have an
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Speaker 4: interest in this.
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Speaker 2: Seems like you're just taking a paycheck. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Broncos approved to a league best thirteen to three, as
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Speaker 3: I mentioned, but they still haven't wrapped up their division either.
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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, it's going to come down
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Speaker 3: possibly to the last week of the regular season. They
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Speaker 3: will host the Los Angeles Chargers. The Chargers will need
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Speaker 3: a win over Houston and then a win over the Broncos.
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Speaker 3: So that's two really good teams, two hot teams that
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Speaker 3: the Chargers are going to have to beat to close
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Speaker 3: out the regular season, but they do have a chance
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Speaker 3: to still sniper the AFC West. The Vikings eliminated the
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Speaker 3: Lions from the playoffs yesterday with a twenty three to
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Speaker 3: ten win Detroit and six turnovers in.
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Speaker 2: The game, six crazy turnovers.
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Speaker 3: Also, I think GoF Goff sacked five times and they
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Speaker 3: were at bad penalties in the game. I didn't watch it,
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Speaker 3: but it sounds very much to me like the Detroit
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Speaker 3: Lions kind of knew that their season was over and
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Speaker 3: they were just not ready to play. Yeah, what it
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Speaker 3: sounds like against an inferior team to them, But that
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Speaker 3: inferior team has the exact same record as the Lions
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Speaker 3: have right now.
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Speaker 2: They're both eight and eight on the year.
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Speaker 4: Well, and their rivals, you should always be up for
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Speaker 4: playing Arrival.
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Speaker 3: You would think, you would think some soul searching going
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Speaker 3: to be done there in Detroit. I know that most
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Speaker 3: people in the country are rooting for the Lions and
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Speaker 3: the Bills if their own team doesn't get the job done.
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Speaker 3: And yet the Lions, they'll go another year without a
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Dallas won at Washington thirty to twenty three.
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Speaker 3: And now we get ready for the weekend Saturday. You're
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Speaker 3: gonna have a doubleheader. That Chargers Texans game is at
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Speaker 3: one third Saturday, and then Baltimore at Green Bay at
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Speaker 3: five o'clock. All four of those teams still alive for
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Speaker 3: a playoff spot. Playoff implications are everywhere in the NFL playoffs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about playoffs. Got kidding me? Playoffs? Well,
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Speaker 2: why wouldn't I?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, right, that's what we're discussing, playoffs, Jim.
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Speaker 2: Every talk show sportscaster is required to play that once.
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Speaker 2: Here there was our one time check. We got it
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Speaker 2: in right before the off. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's reacquired by law. If I didn't, i'd get
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Speaker 3: fined by iHeart. I've watched their HR videos. Yeah, I
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Speaker 3: know this every year.
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Speaker 4: I don't listen. I don't let them play on me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville at Indianapolis is the best early game if it's
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Speaker 3: not us in Carolina. Philadelphia at Buffalo is the afternoon
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Speaker 3: game of note, and then Sunday night Chicago at San Francisco.
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Speaker 3: So the Bears are in the playoffs, forty nine Ers
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Speaker 3: are in the playoff, but both of those teams still
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Speaker 3: trying to win their respective divisions.
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Speaker 2: The NBA.
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Speaker 3: On Christmas Day, there was there were five games that
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Speaker 3: were played yesterday in the National Basketball Association, and they
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Speaker 3: saved the best performance of the day for last.
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Speaker 2: Here's the Joker against Gobe or cross to the left,
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Speaker 2: hats the sixteen footer. See there on the screen. The
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Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets zero for five in overtime, and there's a.
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Speaker 8: Hit out of the time out by the Joker at three.
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Speaker 8: It's two minutes to go in overtime. Joker feeling it
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Speaker 8: hits a three, forty four points for the Joker.
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Speaker 3: He would finish with fifty six in the game, sixteen rebounds,
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Speaker 3: fifteen assists.
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Speaker 2: Just incredible, just incredible.
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Speaker 3: It's right, and the Nuggets won over Minnesota in overtime,
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Speaker 3: one forty two to one thirty eight five Christmas Day games.
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Speaker 3: As I mentioned, is the NBA tries to remain the
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Speaker 3: league synonymous with the holiday. The NFL certainly opened the
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Speaker 3: door back up for them yesterday by airing three subpart
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Speaker 3: matchups with their portion of your holiday viewing, and they
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Speaker 3: did it on two different streaming networks. I hope the
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Speaker 3: NBA won this one. I mean, I mean, I get it.
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Speaker 3: The NFL is king. I love the NFL that said it,
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Speaker 3: just I mean it there's some respect out there.
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Speaker 2: Ashlely. We talked about this in the last hour. The
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Speaker 2: NBA tries not to, you know, stomp on March madness.
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Speaker 2: For example, they sort of give March madness, all right,
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Speaker 2: this is your time, you know, to college basketball.
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Speaker 3: If the NFL was playing in March, they'd probably schedule
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Speaker 3: their entire week on Thursday and Friday just to try
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Speaker 3: to take away from college basketball.
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Speaker 2: That's just the way they operate. And I think it's
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Speaker 2: shady and nasty.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, it doesn't.
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Speaker 6: It does seem like a lot of other leagues like
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Speaker 6: to work together to yeah, and to enhance all the products,
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Speaker 6: and it does not seem like the NFL wants to.
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Speaker 1: Yet.
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Speaker 6: They just want to be like, no, wait, wait, wait.
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Speaker 4: We're better.
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Speaker 6: Let's and we don't believe we're better today where our
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Speaker 6: self esteem is low, so we're going to schedule games
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Speaker 6: where you have games so we can remind ourselves that
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Speaker 6: were better.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And for the NBA, I hope you did well in
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Speaker 3: the ratings. Boy, you should have. If ever, there was
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Speaker 3: an opportunity for you to win the day, you had
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Speaker 3: five good matchups featuring some of your best individual players
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Speaker 3: to showcase and the NFL didn't have an interesting game
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Speaker 3: that they aired that does not for fantasy football. But
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Speaker 3: there wasn't really much interest in any of those host
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Speaker 3: three games. So I hope for the NBA's sake that
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Speaker 3: they held their own at least, because.
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Speaker 2: If you got crushed by the NFL again, you're never
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Speaker 2: not going to get crushed. Yeah that was your chance. Okay, See,
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Speaker 2: by the way, lost to San Antonio again. The Spurs
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Speaker 2: are three to.
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Speaker 3: Zero against the Thunder, who have lost only five games
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Speaker 3: this year, so three of their five losses to the
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Speaker 3: same team. Obviously, there's a difficult matchup there for the Thunder,
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Speaker 3: and San Antonio's got a really good chance to add
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Speaker 3: at the trading deadline, but so does Oklahoma City, so
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Speaker 3: we might be staring at the best rivalry vergeoning rivalry
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Speaker 3: for the next few years in the NBA. If San
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Speaker 3: Antonio is for real, there certainly is a matchup problem
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Speaker 3: there for the Thunder. JJ Reddick said his team doesn't
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Speaker 3: care enough after a loss to Houston and.
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Speaker 2: Then got criticized by NBA players afterwards. They're just not
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Speaker 2: accustomed to an NBA coach calling.
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Speaker 3: Out his players as consistently as what JJ Reddick does
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Speaker 3: in postgame press conferences. And the next yesterday Edge the
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Speaker 3: Cavs and what was probably the most entertaining game of
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Speaker 3: the day. All right, Item number five on your road show,
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Speaker 3: your eight top stories of the day, the Michigan job. Man,
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Speaker 3: it's been lingering. It's been out there, so many coaches
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Speaker 3: have been rumored. Michigan's not really been at the forefront
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Speaker 3: of spreading those rumors. They've actually kind of conducted this
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Speaker 3: thing with some class, and Michigan football.
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Speaker 2: Really doesn't operate that way.
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Speaker 3: Well, they have none, But it looks like we're getting
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Speaker 3: really close to this finally being solved.
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Speaker 2: In order to expedite these negotiations, we are prepared to
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Speaker 2: make you a very generous offer, and we are prepared
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Speaker 2: to reject.
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Speaker 4: That offer like I haven't even heard, never accept their
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Speaker 4: first offer. What is your second offer? Twelve thousand dollars?
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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? That is insultingly low. I don't
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Speaker 4: even want to hear where your first offer was.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, wonder, it's taking a while.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not going to go well, so.
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Speaker 2: Are you sitting down?
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Speaker 3: The morning started today with news from Adam Schefter saying
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Speaker 3: that the new front runner for the head coaching position
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Speaker 3: at Michigan is Kyle Whittingham. He recently retired utah UT's
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Speaker 3: head coach, retired utawt UT's head coach who remember had
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Speaker 3: had enough, and yet apparently the Michigan job is just
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Speaker 3: that appealing that Kyle Whittingham would be willing to come
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Speaker 3: out of very short retirement to take the position as
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Speaker 3: head coach of the Michigan Wolverines.
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Speaker 2: It sounds like he is the singular.
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Speaker 3: Focus of the athletic department at this point, and it's
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Speaker 3: just a matter of hammering out an agreement today and
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Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham will be the next head coach of the Wolverine.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 6: I hope their negotiating skills are better than what's happening
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Speaker 6: at dunder Mifflin.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine they're a little bit better.
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Speaker 3: But I tell you, for a sixty six year old
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Speaker 3: head coach who obviously felt he didn't have the energy
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Speaker 3: in today's game to keep going, yeah, with where he
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Speaker 3: was and where he's beloved and where he did a
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Speaker 3: phenomenal job, I'm up big, Kyle riding in.
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Speaker 4: I don't know many people who aren't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to then say to yourself can I summon the
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Speaker 3: energy for a bigger program with bigger headaches and bigger responsibilities, and.
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Speaker 2: At age sixty six, starts something.
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Speaker 3: Brand new And oh, by the way, I've got to
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Speaker 3: fix a few broken things in the program as well,
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Speaker 3: because the last two head coaches that were in charge
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Speaker 3: kind of left the damn thing in shambles.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. I don't understand.
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Speaker 6: You had a great thing the way you were being
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Speaker 6: at Utah and then leaving. Nobody could fault you for
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Speaker 6: retiring and being tired. It was twenty one years, Like,
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Speaker 6: kudos to you, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,
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Speaker 6: maybe I'm not too tired for Michigan Now. It's like, well, no,
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Speaker 6: there's no way that that just changed all of a sudden,
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Speaker 6: unless you were just not feeling Utah anymore.
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Speaker 3: Well, I would think that Kaylin de Boor if he
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Speaker 3: really did want to stay at Alabama this entire time,
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Speaker 3: then he'll be relieved to have this thing filled. I
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Speaker 3: would think Jed Fish the same way.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping that he's not bitterly disappointed because he wanted
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Speaker 3: the job the whole time and just didn't want to
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Speaker 3: tell us.
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Speaker 2: I hope there is good.
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Speaker 3: Finally I'm gonna be out from underneath this thing and
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Speaker 3: I can focus on Washington Nusky's football.
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Speaker 2: But who knows?
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Speaker 3: So there that saga could come to an end today
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Speaker 3: we shall see. Speaking of Washington football. Since last we spoke,
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Speaker 3: Denzell Boston entered the NFL Draft. No surprise there, He's
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Speaker 3: gonna be a first round pick, and the college football
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Speaker 3: playoff is going to resume on New Year's Eve. Just
17:33
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, the Seattle Kraken decided, Hey, we're just
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Speaker 3: not gonna lose anymore.
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Speaker 8: Look call him long lead feed, broken up Tobenen got
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Speaker 8: one ahead every with.
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Speaker 2: The empty NATI stars sword in every flip boards.
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Speaker 7: Tolliver is a big blow and it could be the
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Speaker 7: final one thirty five second sleft in regulation as every breaking.
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Speaker 2: The time, we're back to back goals and the krack
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Speaker 2: and take a three to one lead. World's nicest human
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Speaker 2: Mike Benton, I mean who would win that? Between him,
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Speaker 2: Everett and Al being the nicest.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they're the three nicest human beings and they're
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Speaker 3: all on our crack and broadcast together.
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Speaker 4: We got a nice team.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a nice team. Get it nice, nice
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Speaker 2: group of group of fellas.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Kraken have won three straight this after dropping
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Speaker 3: ten of eleven games and losing several key players to
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Speaker 3: injuries during that stretch of bad play. And yet now
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden they can't lose, right, they will
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Speaker 3: try to make it four in a row Sunday at
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Speaker 3: five when they host the Philadelphia Flyers. And finally, I
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Speaker 3: have not had a chance to talk about this. I
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Speaker 3: know that Ashley and Bucky have, but the Mariners have
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Speaker 3: signed Rob Refsnyder, as you know, to a one year deal,
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Speaker 3: and that is ref Sneider, not Rob Snyder.
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Speaker 8: You can do it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I'm not the same person. Yeah, remotely
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Speaker 3: spelled the same. So I have not had a chance
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Speaker 3: to weigh in on this, and I will do it next.
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Speaker 3: There's your oh show, your eight top stories of the
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Speaker 2: That's what it's tapped into. The Toad's Happened Christmas? Oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: I got a bunch of them.
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Speaker 4: Are best of shows?
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Speaker 2: Oh great?
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Speaker 6: Need a little fun holiday ish music without being too
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Speaker 6: Christmas Eve.
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Speaker 4: You know, some people don't want to hear Christmas music,
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Speaker 4: it's not Christmas anymore.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty good strategy.
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Speaker 5: Thank you. I like it. Thank you.
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Speaker 3: It's Chuck Powell, it's Ashley Ryan with you know, Bucky Jacobson.
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Speaker 3: Today it is a Football Friday sponsor by Tito's Handmade Vodka.
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Speaker 3: And we got Hugh Millen coming on the show. We
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Speaker 3: got Mike Sando filling in for Mike Holmgren today at
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Speaker 3: nine thirty since we didn't get the chance to chat
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Speaker 3: with Mike on Thursday. And we also have a little
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Speaker 3: baseball here that I would like to discuss. I did
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Speaker 3: tune into the show one time while I was taking
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Speaker 3: my two days off, and I heard you both talking
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Speaker 3: about Rob Refsnyder. That's what I heard you talking about. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: And I have not had a chance to talk about it.
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Speaker 3: We haven't recorded an episode of Stove Anders and I
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Speaker 3: yet regarding this, so I have not had a chance
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Speaker 3: to discuss the signing of Rob Refsnyder.
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Speaker 2: And it's crazy. I mean, maybe some could track it up.
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Speaker 3: To the holiday season and everybody's just filled with mirth,
20:46
Speaker 3: but I think this has more to do with Look
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Speaker 3: what happens when you have a season like the Mariners
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Speaker 3: had when Cal Rawley becomes a superstar and you make
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Speaker 3: the playoffs with some wiggle room, and you win the
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Speaker 3: division and you make it all the way to the ALCS,
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Speaker 3: how much the fan base's perception changes, and the media
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Speaker 3: as well, about how much more credit they give the
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Speaker 3: organization when the organization seems to be on a hot
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Speaker 3: streak right now. Because I cannot even believe. I'm not
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Speaker 3: saying you're wrong. I can't even believe the love for
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Speaker 3: this Rob Refsneider deal. Yeah, when I've been here ten years,
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Speaker 3: you people have never liked signing a platoon player to
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Speaker 3: a free agent contract.
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Speaker 2: Yeh.
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Speaker 6: Ever, Ember, if the Mariners would not have signed Josh
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Speaker 6: Naylor already, and this was the first thing they'd done,
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Speaker 6: they wouldn't have. If they wouldn't have signed Josh Naylor yet,
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Speaker 6: Jorge Polanco was gone and they signed Rob Refsneider, people
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Speaker 6: would be losing there.
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Speaker 3: You know what, I don't know, maybe not because they
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Speaker 3: were losing their you know what's anyway, every time anybody
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Speaker 3: ever suggested spending any money on a platoon player, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I got news for you.
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Speaker 2: This is no different than Aj Pollock.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, same age thirty four years old, and
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Speaker 3: Pollock actually had a better slugging percentage when he came here,
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Speaker 3: and Mariner fans hated aj Pollock.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that signing.
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Speaker 3: And Mitch Garver hit three p forty four against lefties
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Speaker 3: the year before he came here had a five hundred
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Speaker 3: on base percentage.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, a nine to eight ops.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, Rob Reschneider has a reputation of crushing left
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Speaker 3: handed pitching and he did it as recently.
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Speaker 2: As this season. Yeah. And for me, I get the signing.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way to love the signing,
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Speaker 3: but yeah, I get how that works and that improves
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Speaker 3: things for.
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Speaker 2: The Mariners this year.
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Speaker 3: But it is amazing how a little bit of success
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Speaker 3: and a little bit and an Executive of the Year award, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and some momentum and people being able to see the
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Speaker 3: forest for the trees here in the last three months
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Speaker 3: with this organization, with this particular front office, and now
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden signing a platoon thirty four year
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Speaker 3: old short side platoon outfielder is suddenly a wonderful thing.
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Speaker 2: The Mariner fans and media are celebrating throughout the city.
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Speaker 2: It's hilarious.
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Speaker 6: Well, and imagine being in the Mariner's front office, They're like,
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Speaker 6: wait a minute, guys, if we would have done this
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Speaker 6: years ago, we could have had this success years ago.
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Speaker 2: We would have saved ourselves a lot of grief.
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Speaker 4: We should remember this.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: The move itself, yeah, I get it.
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Speaker 3: I mean I do wonder how it is going to
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Speaker 3: impact others already on the roster, because I am imagining
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Speaker 3: that your right field is Ref Schneider and canzone splitting
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Speaker 3: that like just a full fledged platoon? Does that mean
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Speaker 3: Victor Roblaz is on the outside looking in? Does that
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Speaker 3: mean Victor Roblaze moves over to left field and a
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Speaker 3: Rose Arena who's not as good a defender becomes your
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Speaker 3: full time DH since you don't currently have one of
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Speaker 3: those people on the roster at this point. I don't
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Speaker 3: hate that idea. Is it a combination of all of it?
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Speaker 3: Is it just gonna be rotational? Julio plays every day
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Speaker 3: at center field, you know that. But the five of them,
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Speaker 3: because you also have Luke Rayley still in the picture here,
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Speaker 3: And I don't think we should give up on Luke Rayley.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he he had two really good years as
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Speaker 3: a Mariner and then he had a terrible one this
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Speaker 3: past year. It's not like he's thirty five years old.
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Speaker 3: He could bounce back from it. You know, maybe he's
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Speaker 3: a year older, maybe sleeping through the night. Maybe that's
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Speaker 3: what caused Luke Rayley to have a bad year this year.
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Speaker 3: Who knows.
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Speaker 2: But between those five guys, you're.
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Speaker 3: You know, can Zone, Refsnyder, Roeblaze a Rose Arena and
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Speaker 3: Rayley and you're rotating them through the two corner outfields,
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Speaker 3: and the DH with a Rose arena the only one
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Speaker 3: you're playing every day. Whether he's d H or left field,
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Speaker 3: whatever the case may be, but he plays every day.
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Speaker 3: So that that that to me, is the question that
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Speaker 3: comes out of this because there's no question that Rob
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Speaker 3: Refsnyder's going to play against left handers. That's the reason
25:37
Speaker 3: that he's here. And I'll say this about him as well.
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Speaker 3: He came up as an infielder, became an outfielder. He's
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Speaker 3: kind of muscle bound and he's pretty athletic.
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Speaker 2: He's thirty four years old. He's not the speed guy
25:50
Speaker 2: he was once upon a time, but he is good
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Speaker 2: for like two show stopping sensational defensive plays single year.
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Speaker 4: Okay, and I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I haven't watched him enough to know if he consistently
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Speaker 3: plays like a gold Glove caliber outfield, but I'll tell
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Speaker 3: you this, he will make two of the best catches
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Speaker 3: you'll see all season long.
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Speaker 2: He does it every damn year of his career.
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Speaker 1: So I like it.
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Speaker 2: But then I saw the merits to the Pollock move. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and I saw the didn't love it. Didn't love the
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Speaker 2: Pollock move, didn't love the Garvor move.
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Speaker 3: But I saw the merits to it. And that's how
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Speaker 3: I feel about Rev Snyder. I see the merits to
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Speaker 3: this signing, but there's no way to love this signing.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that it changes the entire game for
26:36
Speaker 3: the Seattle Mariners. It's just a good, cheap, one year
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Speaker 3: signing that should make you a slightly better team.
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Speaker 2: In certain situations than what you've been in the past.
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Speaker 3: And I think once you've established yourself as a quality
26:52
Speaker 3: we feel like we are a playoff team, and it's
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Speaker 3: about winning the World Series. Once you've established that, and
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Speaker 3: I think that's where we are, then little tiny moves
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Speaker 3: like this that are.
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Speaker 2: Just slight adjustments seem to score better.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, with even the most frustrated a fan bases when
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Speaker 3: they feel when they do buy into all right, we're
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Speaker 3: moving in the right direction and now all of a
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Speaker 3: sudden something they've tried several times and everyone hated.
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Speaker 2: Now the reaction is great, move really smart.
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Speaker 4: Wow, these guys are genius, really clever. Wonder Jerry One
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Speaker 4: Executive of the Year.
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Speaker 2: Pres Nyer is a good player, kills lefties.
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Speaker 6: I totally get why Dan Wilson's the top three a
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Speaker 6: Manager of the Year. Guys, they're really really onto something,
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Speaker 6: all right, and.
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Speaker 3: I think that it absolutely takes you out of the
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Speaker 3: running for anybody else outfield wise. I think right now
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Speaker 3: they're going to add another bat. It's going to be
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Speaker 3: a third basement or second basement, and maybe somebody that
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Speaker 3: does both.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I think they are still the market for another bat,
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Speaker 3: one that could play every day. But I think you're
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Speaker 3: down to either third base or second base.
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Speaker 2: That's it. That's the only mystery that remains. All right.
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Speaker 3: Coming up next on the radio program, before we bring
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Speaker 3: Hugh Milling up at nine o'clock, we'll just take a
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Speaker 3: look at that NFL playoff picture as it sort of
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Speaker 3: comes into focus. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
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Speaker 4: Is the season to be.
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Speaker 2: I have been decided on how I want us to
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Speaker 2: get in to win the NFC West.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm ready.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, here is the scenario that would tickle me most
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Speaker 3: in terms of winning the NFC West late on me.
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Speaker 3: I would like to beat the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: We'll start there, check, okay, and then I want the
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Speaker 3: Rams and the forty nine ers.
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Speaker 2: To both tie.
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Speaker 4: Okay, did not see that coming?
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Speaker 2: Yes, because in that situation, we could wrap this thing
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Speaker 2: up by Monday night.
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Speaker 4: Okay, if they both lose, then what would happen? Oh yeah,
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Speaker 4: we can do it that way too, But time makes
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Speaker 4: it funnier.
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Speaker 2: Time makes it much funnier.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they could both lose and we're good, but
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Speaker 3: they also actually I know that's that's actually not true.
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Speaker 2: I would take that back the forty nine ers even
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Speaker 2: with a Nope, that's not true. That's not true. No,
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Speaker 2: you're right, you're right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, both of the loss, but two ties would also
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Speaker 3: get it done. So all right, that would be awesome.
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Speaker 4: All right, I'm in sign me up. I will laugh
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Speaker 4: very hard if that happened.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, so there's a there's a lot at steak
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Speaker 3: heading into this weekend, and certainly a lot of different
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Speaker 3: moving pieces out there. Chicago can clinch the NFC North
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Speaker 3: Division title with a win or a Green Bay loss.
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Speaker 3: That either one of those things for them. Carolina, of course,
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Speaker 3: we've talked about quite a bit. They clinch with a
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Speaker 3: win and a Tampa Bay loss, and then ties do
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Speaker 3: come into play here.
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Speaker 2: I just don't want to go through all of this
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Speaker 2: and mentioning all the ties.
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Speaker 4: Right, you know they're unlikely, right.
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Speaker 3: San Francisco is ahead of the Rams in the NFC
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Speaker 3: West based on division records, so San Francisco wins a
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Speaker 3: tiebreaker with the Rams where it doesn't look like we
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Speaker 3: would ultimately. And Minnesota is head of Detroit in the
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Speaker 3: NFC North based on head to head sweep but I
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Speaker 3: think that only actually comes down to draft positioning at
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Speaker 3: this stage because they are both eliminated. So that's what's
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Speaker 3: at stake in the NFC. In the AFC, the playoff picture,
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Speaker 3: Indianapolis is still alive, but they can't afford another loss,
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Speaker 3: So Indianapolis Houston clinches with a with either an Indianapolis loss,
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Speaker 3: which feels likely right now, or a Houston win against
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Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Chargers. But the Chargers have a lot
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Speaker 3: at stake as well, because the Chargers can still win
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Speaker 3: the AFC West. So but they're gonna have to win
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Speaker 3: against Houston this weekend Saturday, and then they're gonna have
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Speaker 3: to defeat Denver in the final week of the regular season.
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Speaker 3: So Denver sitting there with the best record right now
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Speaker 3: in the National Football League, and all they need to
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Speaker 3: do is that you have the Chargers lose Saturday, and
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Speaker 3: they've they're at.
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Speaker 2: The top of the AFC West.
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Speaker 3: New England win and a Buffalo loss puts the Patriots
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Speaker 3: in this weekend, So that means that Buffalo with a win,
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Speaker 3: still can pull this thing off in the AFC East.
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Speaker 3: So there are scenarios big picture where everything pretty much
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Speaker 3: can be decided this weekend.
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Speaker 2: But there's also a scenario where almost.
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Speaker 3: Nothing is decided this weekend, and so the NFL once
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Speaker 3: as many puzzle pieces strewn about as they possibly can
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Speaker 3: have on the you know, Christmas Day floor for the
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Speaker 3: final week of.
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Speaker 2: The regular season.
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Speaker 3: And it would be hard to believe even though CBS
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Speaker 3: took the time to write an article about how Week
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Speaker 3: eighteen could be very uneventful. It could also be extremely eventful,
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Speaker 3: and you could have you know, ten games with playoff
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Speaker 3: ramifications this weekend. And of course they still haven't decided
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Speaker 3: who's going to play the last game of the year,
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Speaker 3: and the Seahawks are a strong.
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Speaker 2: Candidate for doing that. Yeah, and part of me the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks are guaranteed, well not guaranteed, but almost guaranteed of
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Speaker 2: having something at stake in Week eighteen.
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Speaker 4: I would assume so.
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Speaker 6: And part of me loves the idea of having Week
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Speaker 6: eighteen have so many awesome games that you're just glued
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Speaker 6: to the TV all weekend and can't get enough. But
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Speaker 6: part of me also loves the idea of having everything
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Speaker 6: wrapped up on Week seventeen and the NFL going, wow, crap,
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Speaker 6: no one cares about us on Week eighteen.
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Speaker 4: What are we supposed to do?
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Speaker 2: Oh, we don't even have fantasy football on weekend?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that means no one's too need What are we.
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Speaker 2: Going to do if three trillion people don't watch? I
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Speaker 2: have a feeling we'll get about half.
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Speaker 3: I think we're going to get about half the drama
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Speaker 3: that you could get for Week eighteen, and that's plenty.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we got a lot at.
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Speaker 3: Stake here in the Pacific Northwest and across the National
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Speaker 3: Football League, and we'll start figuring some pieces out tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Two games tomorrow with some playoff ramifications, all right, Hugh
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Speaker 3: Mellon's next, Mike Sando at nine thirty. It's Chuck and
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Speaker 3: Ashley with you here on this Football Friday. Sports Radio
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