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🏡 The Valley Finale Chaos & 🍊 RHOC Working out the Kinks + Amy's Home Organization and Back from the Flu · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling. Well, hello and I'm back.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: We're back. It's amazing to be here you guys. Boy,
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: did I get hit with a flu like no one's business.
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  Speaker 1: But albeit it's over and you'll hear maybe a residual
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  Speaker 1: cough here and there, maybe a lot, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it's fine because I feel great and
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: I needed the break. I think my body was like, girl,
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: you're not going on vacation this summer, so we're going
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: to get you just a little six so you can
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  Speaker 1: take some time off work and reorganize your house. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Deanna Chang is here. Yeah, thanks for being
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  Speaker 1: here for my first day back after like a week,
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  Speaker 1: which feels like three months.
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  Speaker 2: Truly, I didn't realize I was the first, and I
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  Speaker 2: am deeply honored and I am honored to be here
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  Speaker 2: with you and the darlings and get back to business,
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  Speaker 2: get back to what's right.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: We got to get back to work. We got to
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: get to work. We have to on account of Vicki
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  Speaker 1: gun Wilson. We are going to be talking about OC today,
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  Speaker 1: but first we're going to talk about The Valley, the
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  Speaker 1: season finale. Of the Valley and quickly, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to say thanks for your patients, darlings, for you know,
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  Speaker 1: just sticking there with me, and those of you guys
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  Speaker 1: on Patreon who've stuck around I appreciate it. And those
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: on the luxury level wondering where are the bonus episodes
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: in the ad Freeze. We're back, baby, and just consider
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: it a summer break, because here we are now. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to just quickly just tap into the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the studio, the Drama Darling Lounge, basically the Cheetah Lounge,
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  Speaker 1: is under construction. And that's because I've turned this place
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  Speaker 1: upside down with organization that of which I've never experienced
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  Speaker 1: before in many, many years. And I am loving every
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  Speaker 1: second of it. Those of you who are into organization
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  Speaker 1: and like to do it, hit me up. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a blast. So I got a table for
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  Speaker 1: my office. It's actually I'm gonna call it a studio.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call it an office anymore, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a studio. It will house it could house upwards of
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  Speaker 1: two one to four people at this table for recording
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  Speaker 1: should we need to. That's down the line and behind me, Darlings,
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  Speaker 1: it's under construction. You know you're gonna see some pieces
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  Speaker 1: of furniture that are on their way out. So bid
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  Speaker 1: you're ado Marie condo it. Thank you for your service,
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  Speaker 1: Beauty bar, Thank you for your service. Desk. We will
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  Speaker 1: be selling on Facebook marketplace, so stay.
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  Speaker 2: Tuned it to that marketplace. Was gonna get lit up,
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  Speaker 2: lit up like a Christmas tree, lit.
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  Speaker 1: Up like the drum darling sign that I am fully
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  Speaker 1: blocking right now. But the darlings and I have been
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  Speaker 1: in communication over on the Patreon. We're talking about what
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  Speaker 1: am I going to do in the background. Probably gonna
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  Speaker 1: put up some shells, Probably gonna you know, highlight some
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  Speaker 1: items and so forth, some memorabilia. You never know. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens more on the organization later.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, please did you did you just out of curiosity?
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  Speaker 2: Were you tapping into some YouTube's or were you just
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  Speaker 2: firing off? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Now I have been following. Okay, I've been watching tons
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  Speaker 1: of videos on Clutterbug podcast, which is on YouTube but
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  Speaker 1: it's also a podcast. This galler name is Cass. She's
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  Speaker 1: the kookiest gal you've ever seen, and she has got
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  Speaker 1: it on lock the way to organize and the types
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  Speaker 1: of different people that have different strategies for organizing, and
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  Speaker 1: she nails down like these four categories because she's it's
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  Speaker 1: called like clutterbug. But then she goes down and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: are you bug? Are you a butterfly? Are you a cricket?
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  Speaker 1: Are you this? Are you that? And I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: tell you what it's game changing and the way she
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  Speaker 1: simplifies things and the way she gives you the map
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  Speaker 1: as to how to start with the zones and the categories,
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  Speaker 1: and like, don't go out and buy a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: stuff first, you got to like declutter first, see what
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  Speaker 1: you have, see what you need to house. Then you
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  Speaker 1: go out and you get your stuff, and the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that you get is going to be dependent on what
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  Speaker 1: kind of organizer you are. I mean, it is like
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  Speaker 1: a whole thing that I am deep into and I'm
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  Speaker 1: loving it. I've done many things in the kitchen, I've
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  Speaker 1: done many things in this huge this closet in my studio,
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  Speaker 1: and I have to be smart about it because I
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  Speaker 1: have small space. I've got small storage space and got
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  Speaker 1: to be smart about it.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, what type of obviously we all need to
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  Speaker 2: know are you okay? Well, are you a ladybug?
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  Speaker 1: What are you? I think I'm a ladybug? I do?
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm a ladybug.
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  Speaker 2: That's nice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it just basically means that I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see the mess. Like I don't want to see
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  Speaker 1: all the stuff. But I can have the bins out,
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  Speaker 1: but they have to look cute and they got to
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  Speaker 1: be open. I don't want lids. I got to be
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  Speaker 1: able to quickly throw shit in there and be done.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't have the time to get like
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  Speaker 1: a cricket be all like this is going to go
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  Speaker 1: in this little bit and this is going to go
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  Speaker 1: over here. I can't deal.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to be precious about it. You want
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  Speaker 2: don't to throw it at it. You set it and
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  Speaker 2: forget it and then just pop it in and march
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  Speaker 2: on your merry way. But it needs to be a
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  Speaker 2: vessel that is pleasant.
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  Speaker 1: To the other. Yes, And it can be opaque. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be see through. I don't want it
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  Speaker 1: to be see through because I don't want to have
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  Speaker 1: to see the stuff, but I want it to be
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  Speaker 1: out so I don't forget about it, and I want
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  Speaker 1: to be able to get into it in and out
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  Speaker 1: of it easily, whereas if you're another type of organizer,
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  Speaker 1: you may need to have stuff out on your walls,
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  Speaker 1: utilize the vertical spaces, have all clear organizing vessels so
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  Speaker 1: that you see what's in it, and that's not going
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  Speaker 1: to bother you. If you're a cricket, you're gonna want lids,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna want things that are opaque. You know. There,
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  Speaker 1: it is a system.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to take a few shots of my
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  Speaker 2: garage because recently I've had a vision for my garage
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  Speaker 2: for a long time. Oh man, okay, yeah, and we're
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  Speaker 2: not at a getting scent, but we're at like seventy five. Wow, sexy.
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  Speaker 2: And I said to my husband, we are because I
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  Speaker 2: was always thinking I need someone to come in and help.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, right, that's how I've always felt, too.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, you know what, budgets are going elsewhere,
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  Speaker 2: Budgets are not going towards the garage. So like this
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  Speaker 2: room I'm getting, I'm gonna match you with a cuter studio.
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  Speaker 2: Things are happening, okay, And so here's the thing. It's
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  Speaker 2: like that garage is not even on deck, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for anyone to come in and help.
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  Speaker 1: Tell it to me straight, and I'll slap it right
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  Speaker 1: back to you because I'm not getting to that until
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  Speaker 1: fall winter.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. So I just said, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to do it like we are going to and
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  Speaker 2: we are going to use that goddamn wall. I said,
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  Speaker 2: let's go, let's go, gonna get things up. And things
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  Speaker 2: are up, and it feels so good to have you
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  Speaker 2: some goddamn vertical space.
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  Speaker 1: Vertical space.
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  Speaker 2: I am real.
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  Speaker 1: I am so happy. I have the chills. I am delighted,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you it's everything it is. It really
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  Speaker 1: means a lot to get this done. And to be
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  Speaker 1: quite honest with you, I wouldn't have been able to
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  Speaker 1: do this had I not gotten sick and sick in
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  Speaker 1: the way that I'm coughing and hacking my throat. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, Bernie, that's for another time. But like I
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  Speaker 1: can walk around and do a ton of stuff while
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  Speaker 1: I'm sick, and it was the greatest blessing of my life.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the that's where what it is, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't have to feel bad because I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm missing all this work. I had no voice, I
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  Speaker 1: could not talk as you can stay see but like
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a gift that we give
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  Speaker 1: to ourselves to live in the way that we're meant
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  Speaker 1: to live. And I wouldn't have been able to make
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to move the needle hadn't
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  Speaker 1: I done this in such an extreme way to start. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I still have a lot, a lot to do.
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  Speaker 2: You've done, I've done that, You've done some heavy lifting,
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  Speaker 2: and you know the system. Yeah, I know the system,
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  Speaker 2: which is everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I understand it. You know, it's like a cult.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm brainwashed in a great organ And
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: by the way, I've taken a couple of videos posted
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  Speaker 1: on my Patreon because the darlings have been with me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to post some more. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: show you my work. I'm going to show you some drawers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to show you some drawers. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: show you some cupboards.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Anyway that being said, I know, thanks for diving
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  Speaker 1: in with me because I I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy. Guys.
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  Speaker 2: I could just talk about this the whole time, but
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: we have other things to tackle. You know, you're right,
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: And you know the Valley season fun Alley.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean, this show's like when you're
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: looking at some other shows, this show's cooking.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: This shows you think, yeah, it's cooking so hard. I
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: didn't even know that the season was ending, that's how
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: much it was cooking. Plus I was sick. But still
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: at this at this Halloween party, talk about fireworks. You know,
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: Kristen doesn't even know what's coming out her mouth this season,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: by the way, she doesn't know what weighs, what forward,
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: and she can't back it up even her confessional She's like,
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: it may have been a bad choice of words. I'm like,
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: how do you not know what manipulate means? At this point,
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: my girl, Yeah, you know, I'm going to help her
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: out and say, this is like postpartum brain. You just
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're saying. And I think that she'll
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: realize that. I think she's gonna have some apologizing to
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  Speaker 1: do come the reunion. But she doesn't know what she's saying.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: Zach doesn't know what side he's on or which way
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: he's coming or going. And then and and Danny is
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  Speaker 1: it has a problem and does not want to deal
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: with it, and Janet is not winning points with anyone again.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: She ended the season with a real with a splash.
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  Speaker 2: Splash Jason to both and this season last last night
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  Speaker 2: of filming with her assaulting, you know, sending out that's
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: an assault, and him, you know, an accidental gropage. But
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  Speaker 2: he just like I mean to hit them like that
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  Speaker 2: just truly made me laugh, Like all this for that, guys, all.
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  Speaker 1: This for that, all this for that, Deanna. Now, when
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  Speaker 1: he came up to that gal who was not Janet,
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  Speaker 1: as they sat at the bottom, he came up, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like he came up real close to her,
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: but I don't did he touch her.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: He didn't. I don't even know what. I don't exactly know.
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  Speaker 2: It was just funny.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that. Thank god he was on crutches,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: because he could have.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: He could have grabbed her right by the tuckis. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it would have been.
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  Speaker 1: Have you done that before? I have. I haven't grabbed anyone's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but I've come up to a man that
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: looked like Brent and I I was like, oh my god,
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah I did that to like as a kid, I
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: thought at the bank, I remember it so vividly. I
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: thought this guy was my dad, and my dad was
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: like joking. He watched the whole thing, he saw it unfolding.
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  Speaker 2: He was like enjoying letting it unfold. And I was like, eh,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: then the guy looked out. I was like that, you know,
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: it's just so upsetting.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: It's tough. I've been mistaken for other mothers before. Many
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: times kids come up to me and it's so cute.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: It's so cute at first, and then they are so terrified.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrible, and you feel.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: And you feel so bad. One time, I remember I
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: was at this like kid's gym. I'm sorry, I have
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: to tell this. There was this guy and he had
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: on like a like sporting pants, like a like a
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: track pant that showed his his chunk in such a
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: way that it was out you know, I mean you
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: could kind of see it. My daughter just she was tiny,
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  Speaker 1: she just went up and grabbed She just went up
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  Speaker 1: there thought it was part of the gym. I swear
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 2: She thought she could was a climbing on yet to.
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  Speaker 1: Climb on, And I was like, oh my god, I'm
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: who would have I'm like, bro, you can't wear those
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: kinds of pants around the kids. I knew, you know,
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: they think they're handlebars. They think they're a swinging thing.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: You can't bring your junk to the to the gym.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: So there's that. But indead I digress. He so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for them areas to do that, to end up like
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: this is a really tough place to go. I was proud,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: not proud is the right word. I was glad that
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: Danny just got up and left because I don't I
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: don't think that like violence is his way. I think
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  Speaker 1: that he just wants to be, you know, belligerent and
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: pass out. But I don't think that that violence is part.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: Of Yeah, that's the other thing is like he wins
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: passed out for all intents and purposes. When these this
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: gang descended upon Yang, so he was just a gang
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  Speaker 2: of fee getting his bearings. You know, he's drunk, he's
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: like horizontal and then he's got this one, that one
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  Speaker 2: the other. They're they're all coming in like out of
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: a clown car and out of the clown car, and
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: he gets a drink literally and cup thrown at him,
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: which is so yeah, fuck it, you know it's so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: am I I froze there for a second. It was
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: just so it didn't even match the energy of what
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: was happening. It was just so ridiculous.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she really went from zero to one hundred and
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: for what though. I know, and I was like, this
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: isn't Housewives, And you know it's Danny him being like,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: am I talking to you? I'm not talking to you?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I get that he's rude, but you're walking
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: into it, and you guys are coming over there, poke
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: him more. You're coming over there because you know it's
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be drama for the television, for the for the
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: finale finale, and now we know producers in a way
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: told La La that Danny has an apology for her apparently.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: So that's why I think she skirted over there because
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: she's like, I guess because she's like, I.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Go grab it, right.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go grab thispology Danny. I I was told
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: there may be an apology somewhere on this couch that yeah,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: And he's like what, oh right? Right? I mean, you know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: we all know he's wasted, we all know he's not changing,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: we all know the wheels aren't turning. What do you expect,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Jason and Janet when you come over and you start
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: poking at this guy who clearly has a drinking problem,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: is gonna give you more of the same. It's it's
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: proving insanity on their on their side.
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  Speaker 2: Just too much. I mean, and Jason's been gone, so
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: He got to get he had to get right in there,
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  Speaker 1: finally get his leg up in that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to get his licks in. And I
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: just I mean, talk about beating a dead horse. You know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I've and I you know, I've said on this program,
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  Speaker 2: on this platform, I have understood Janet. Okay, and I.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: In solidarity all call it what it's called, and it
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  Speaker 1: was assault. We agree, We're fine with it.
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  Speaker 2: Not the rest of the internet, but we we at
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  Speaker 2: least we agree, we agree. But then we've gone through
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: like she's an odd duck. Okay, she's an odd bird
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: because okay, and I really did feel like she's trying
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: she you know, Danny, in my opinion, is the one
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: who's constantly been bringing all of this up. He's constantly
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: wanting to know where people stand. He constantly if you
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: drop yes, you would drop it. I think we'd be
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: in a different place. Yeah, but then we have Janet.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: You know, she's talking about old assault. Then she's talking
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: about she regrets saying sexual assault, and in the next
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: breath she's like, it is what it is. Of course
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, she's not saying sexual assault, but one
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: moment she's saying, I regret it, and the next breath
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: she does not regret it, and her heels are in
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, Janet, you're strange, You're odd, You're odd,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: You're an odd girl. You're just an odd girl.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: You know. I can't I can't deny that nothing goes
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: down easy with her. And it's like I have a
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: hard time with her on the show. And I'm not
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. Do I have a harder time with Danny
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  Speaker 1: being on the show?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Uh? Not? Now?
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  Speaker 1: I hate to say it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: A couple ups back, we were like more ready for
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: a night out with Janet. But right now, today, as
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: it stands, on this day.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: On this day, is all we can speak for, you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: It's all I can talk about, and right now and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: right now, we got to go with what we know.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: And Danny is he's very like I enjoy I'm sorry this,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: it's hard to say that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I'm really going to laugh.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Fun laughing at him in a way that it's so ridiculous,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Like what do you wise men? Wise men think I'm
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: on upstanding man. It's like, okay, okay, what do we
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: who do you want to bring him in like the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: guys from the church so they can tell us. I'm
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: glad that you consider that. We don't care. Say what
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you got to say about yourself and that's fine, and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: coming out on the internet and saying you've been porn
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: free for like seven or eight years. Good Christ, I
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: have no problem. If that's what you want to do,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: that's great.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: But I'm just I don't think that we need to
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: know that alone.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I don't just I don't think we need to know that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Danna don't want to know it. I don't want to
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: ever think about it. He's under the impression that I
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: want to think about his body and himself, and I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: do not. I do not want to think about Danny.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: He wants to defend himself, and he thinks that defending
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: himself is telling everybody I'm not going to assault anybody.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I never wouldn't assault anybody. And I and because I'm
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: not watching porn or because I'm an upstanding man of
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the community and character, well, it happened. It is what
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it is, and it happened. And their problem is that
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: they never could move on from not getting what they
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: wanted from Janet. And that's where it all ended. Now,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: did we need that for the season? I mean, I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: guess kind of, because not a ton happened. However, a
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: lot happened at this party. I mean, we had the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Jesse and Michelle's stuff is quite juicy, and you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: with Lacey being a part of it, Jasmine and this
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: best friend Natalie getting into Farland was wild. And I'll
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: tell you what. Jasmine got so mad and the reason
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: why is because.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Great tell me, because I felt completely lost. I'm like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: what's happening right now?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think she was right. It was very weird.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: It was very weird, and I don't think that she
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: was right. And I thought, what do you expect coming
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: over to confronting Michelle and standing ten toes down for
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Jessets and then really planting and like Natalie said, kind
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of painting the narrative that she's a bad mom by
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: reinforcing what Jesse was just saying without without acknowledging that
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: she just heard Michelle's explanation about how she knows this
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: guy and they haven't even gone on a day, and
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that's where it ended. She didn't accept that. She kept
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: like pushing, and so part of it, I think is
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: like Jazzmin wants to be integrated into a storyline bad,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and so she's choosing Jesse to do that. And then
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the other part of it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Is almost like, you know, you're playing that game of
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: you know, hot potato, and he's the only potato left.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, poor thing, you know, she's she's got
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to take up with Jesse, Like I just trying to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: crunch the numbers really quick, and I'm like, I guess
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: that's who's left over.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I know, because she happened to walk in when he was,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know, reacting from Michelle responding to him about being
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: called out about this guy. And then the other reason
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: why I think that she reacted like this, like many
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: reality people do. If they are a full cast member
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and somebody comes onto the scene that isn't on the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: show or is lightly a friend of but not even
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a friend of, but just somebody who's there at the party, yeah,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and they speak up and they're in the scene like
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: they are a main cast member in that scene. In
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that moment. It makes the cast member irate. Who are you?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I don't even know you. What are you doing in
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: my scene? You're not even on this show. That's the underling,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that's the underlying narrative that I was seeing it. Jasmine
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: was like, you're not on this show, like this is
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a cast member. I'm I'm actually doing a storyline
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: with her right now by choosing Jesse, let me see that, right,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: please step away from this scene and right. But that's
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: kind of like what I liked about it is that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: it was very organic about where everyone was in that moment.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I appreciated Janet kind of sticking up for Michelle in
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that moment, and I thought she did a good job
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: of doing it. I appreciated Michelle speaking her piece and
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: not getting that upset. And I appreciated Natalie being like, Okay,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: now you've heard the explanation, you still haven't accepted it,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and you're still pushing and now the world is watching
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and you're making it look like she's a bad mom.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: And when it comes to mom stuff, I'm going to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: have her back. So I'm going to insert myself and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and Jasmine I have to say saying like but bye,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: bitch by Chicago. I don't know, like, I don't.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Know why what was accomplished?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. To make you laugh, yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it totally made me laugh. No, it did make me
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: laugh calling her Chicago and and then of course following
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that up with calling her a bitch again because to her,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: obviously she's like, it's not. I think she was trying
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to diffuse it a little bit by saying, like, I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: call it everybody bitch, like I'm not. It's not that deep, Like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: don't think I'm And if you watch these shows, people
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: do do that. However, we don't. We don't know, people
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: don't know each other in this scenario necessarily like that's
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and I would also I didn't see it as a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: term of endearment, and that's what she was trying to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: say it was and it wasn't. No.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, are you so irritated that you have
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to from remote Jesse's storyline that you're just taking this girl?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is that where it's coming from? Your irritation
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: that he was the only potato left and now you
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: have to like deal with his storyline because you had
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: your wedding and you're sort of left a little empty handed,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: even though Yeah, so I couldn't tell what was going on.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It came on so fast and furious, it did.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I hadn't rewatch it many times, and I was writing
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the dialogue down because I wanted to see where it
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: went left and.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Because I just took it in in a onesie and
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: therefore I don't have it. Like I genuinely was like,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: what the hell was that? Like it just was crazy?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was. It was fast and furious,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: but it was It definitely went down the way that
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: we basically just talked about it, and you know, Natalie
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: immediately after Jasmine was told like, no, I it's just
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: like with real estate. And I took Isabella with me.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: We showed this guy this place and they probably met
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: in that way, but they didn't go out on a date,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: is what I understand. And what's tough about it is
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: that I do have empathy. When Jesse says that Isabella
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: is crying about Aaron, that does make me really sad.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: That has to be painful. And at the same time, Jesse,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: who's to say you and Lacy are actually going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: work out, and how is she going to feel at
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that point?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Sad? You know, sad Listen, Jesse has you know he
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: will want to take Michelle down for the rest of
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: his life, regardless of how he has got a bug
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: in his bonnet over her, and he does look for
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: moments to take her down. And there really haven't been any, right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they've been getting How about that scene when
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: they were like having champagne and toasting for their future.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. Weird watching, Yeah, I know it
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: got me.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Listen. I like Michelle a lot. I like her the
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: way she is the most dynamic. No, but I do
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: like it. I do just like an even person in
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the game, like a Cynthia Bailey Like. I just do
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: like that. I need it a lot of the time
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to just make my way. She seems real, She seems real.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I think she stands up for what she believes in
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: in a way that's real and not over the top.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: And when when Danny came in with that was it
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: count Bookula, Oh my god.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I gotta give it to him. After most of the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: people at that party don't like him, and he's he's
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a showman. He's going to come in and he's going
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to present, and I got to give it to him,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: good for you, Good for you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Michelle, when she just so earnestly was like, I would
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: be so irritated if I was nia dealing with characters
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: all the time, all the characters, and I was like
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: thinking of Mama Joyce, who I.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Don't want characters.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I want characters. So you know, she just is. She's
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: just a real gal on there. But Jesse is diabolical,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and we can't lose sight of that, like the fact.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: That no, Dan, You're right, we can't lose sight of that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: No, Danny, And this is maybe why Jesse does like
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Danny and just sticks up for him, the fact that
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Danny has overshadowed this Jesse. Yeah, and Jesse's been skating,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: just got free he is, he's free skar ultimately, Oh yeah, sir,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm waiting for him to prove otherwise. But when
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: he does stuff like this, it pisses me off, like
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: no one's business. And then then like I don't really
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: know who he fully is. It's like he seems like
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a good person. Oh my god, he's a grifter.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: He is a dirty john. Like I'm sorry, he is
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: he is. There's a lot there.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, whoa wow. I never thought about it
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: like that, meaning like a dirty John. You know. I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: can't disagree with that because there has been no consistency
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: with what we've seen from him, like it is. So
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: there's twenty percent that we've seen of him that I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: feel like is good when I'm like, he's a good dad,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you know, like he's a really good dad. And actually
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that's separate. I do think he's a really good dad.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I do think he absolutely loves his daughter and that's great.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So that's separate. But like him as a person in
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: terms of relationships with women, yeah.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And that when she crunched whatever, I don't I don't
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: have them at the ready, but she crunched some numbers
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: in terms of money and what he was giving her
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: for Isabella, you know, and what he brings to the table.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: It was like, he doesn't have two hundred dollars.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right to do, X.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Y and Z. I'm alarmed. And I think he's hitched
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: his wagon to a wealthy girl. Yeah, and that's why
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: he's there. And I think if that wasn't working, he'd
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: pull out the Philodaxon. I just don't, wow.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Deanna, that's what I said that, Well, it must have
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: been two weeks ago, but that's what I said. That
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the only reason why he's with Lacey is because of
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the money. That's that's what I said.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's the true. It's the truth.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Wow, there's it's interesting to hear it back. Like I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: thought that, and then I just wasn't sure. That was
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: second guessing myself. But now you're saying it. What do
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you guys think you know? I mean, because it does
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: seem pretty obvious. And also like if Michelle keeps saying
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: he never was like this when we were married, because
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that's kind of who he really is probably with her,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I do believe that they really had something in the beginning.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's clear. Sure.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And so when they had that champagne and you could
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: see how sad they were, I was kind of like,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: for a second, I was like, Oh, that's really too
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: bad it didn't work out, because they really did seem
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to have a good several years together. And I did
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: love what he said about Isabella. He wants her to
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: know that she was like, you know, born in love,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: like created with love, and I loved that. I thought
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that was really beautiful, very mature of them to handle
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it that way, and then you know, we pop into
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: this because it does it makes Michelle look like a
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: bad mom, and it makes her look like a hypocrite
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: because she had such a problem with him introducing Isabella
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to Lacey when they had agreed. So it's like he's
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: trying to burn her back and it's like, dude, it's
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: not the same thing anyway.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: No, and she she's, yeah, totally, but this.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I did think it was funny when Jasmine came in
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and he's like, she's seeing this comedian and Jasmine's like, comedian,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: she doesn't even laugh. I was like, that was that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: was like the funniest thing.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: She said, that's really funny. She doesn't even laugh.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we got to talk about just basically Kristen
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and Zach and Nia and La La and Janet and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: this whole little mix them up situation.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mix them up, you know.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it does kind of seem like
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Zach is playing both sides, but I think he's also
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: being pretty upfront about playing both sides exactly about like
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'm honestly saying, I'm not completely closed off to moving
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: forward with you, Janet, but I'm watching you and I'm
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: waiting for the behavior to speak for itself, and right
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: now you're not doing it for me. In the meantime,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: was on this side of the of the group and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: then maybe I'll cross over at another But Kristin isn't
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: going to go crossover to Janet anytime soon. She has
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: really been very clear.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: She's been very clear, quite quite quite quite clear.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Lalla is trying to do everything in her power. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: feel like to get Kristen to soften up, you know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: with to to Janet.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to Janet because of what happened to her,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and I didn't I did like that conversation that they had,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and you know about what Janet's has gone through, and
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Kristin was very open to acknowledging that. And it's not
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: going to push things further with their friendship, but I
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: think that Kristin will probably pull back with like jumping
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: on the bandwagon. Yeah, and I'm glad because no woman
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: needs to be doing that to any other woman, period, stop,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: end of story.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: No, And I think the most interesting thing about that
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: conversation was just like seeing old friends like when her
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and Brittany and La La Brittany and Kristen were together.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: There was an enjoyment of seeing like the oldies together
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and the you know, because Kristin and I will maintain
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Kristin and Nia.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Nia.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was one after show with Kristin and Nia,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: and I may have said this before, but like Nia
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: didn't say a single word, and Kristen was like just
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: running it all for her, you know, just doing all
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the talking for her, and I'm like.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: It is God, She's like a Amanda from Summerhouse. Nia
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: is like an Amanda from Summer House.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah in that way, in that yeah, you let the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: other people fight the battles. And I definitely think Nia has,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: you know, her eye on that piece of Kristin that
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: she can manipulate. And I don't say that horribly like
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you're you're at war on this show, you know what
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I mean? Like you have to find your allies and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: work with them. But it's just like almost almost like
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: it a work situation when you have a boss and
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: an underling and they can't like be in a relationship
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: because it's the power dynamic is off. I kind of
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: feel that way with Nia and Kristin. The power dynamic
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: is so off because Kristin is just so looks up
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to her so much.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: It's so wild.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Why is I mean, well, I understand, I.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Guess I do. Think we've talked about this a little
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: bit before. But it is ironic considering that Kristen is
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: really the veteran of reality at this point. You know
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Nia is so together in so many ways, and so
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: high functioning and beautiful, lovely and all the things, and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: looks like she has it under control in terms of
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: her kids. And Okay, so it's very enticing that, you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: she wants to touch that smellet be.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Near it to Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for reminding me
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: about that. I've sort of lost my way a little bit,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: but that is such a good reminder. You're right. The
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: power dynamic is off, and just like what you're saying
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: when Lalla was like she feels like the Godfather, when
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Nia's like, oh, be a shame of something happened there,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and then Kristen goes and does it. I love that
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: because I wouldn't have thought about it being that Nia's
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: more in charge. I would have thought it was more
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: like neutral and they were simpath in terms of the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: level of respecting but you're right. I do believe that now.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I get it. And I also think too that when
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: you have a baby, you're coupled up, you really want
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: another couple in the same exact situation as you. Yeah,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and it's certainly a benefit if they're the one. If
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the other couple has done everything before and they have
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: other kids, they know what's up. You can kind of
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: follow their lead and they know. So I understand that too.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Kristin's going to want to hold on to that, you know.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I don't you know, take that away from Kristin. I
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: get it one hundred percent. But it is funny because
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: she did correct me if I'm wrong, But this is
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: now like I think the second time and maybe I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: heard it wrong, but where she will lie to people's
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: faces because she doesn't want to admit something and she's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: just a camera leader, like.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I lied, you know right right, I'm right about that,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: which makes me laugh because I'm not sure I wouldn't
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: do that, you know, on a reality show. It's like, yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with it right now, and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I lied.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love and respect I respect that, And with
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the miscommunication thing, I think I don't know if that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: was a lie that she really I think she just
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: blatantly forgot what she had even said. And I was
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: feeling the frustration that Lala and Brittany felt like when
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: She's like, no, you guys are the one who said it,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I can't imagine if
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: someone was saying that to me when we clearly heard
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: you say it out of your mouth, and you're now
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: so convinced. And then Zach is over there going, I
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: believe Kristen, I don't believe you. Brittany, Oh my god,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: is that? Oh she did not know what to do now?
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Her and Zach like that is a tougher one because
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: they are a sad legit friend now and have so
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: much history and I'm sure Brittany brought him on and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: all of that, and so you know, but Zach, I mean,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: what would we do without him? I don't know. I
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: He's great, I really don't. And I love Kristen and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I love Adelaide. That baby is a star so beautiful.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: She has she has charisma that you know what I'm saying,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: when you see someone with star quality, no matter what
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: age it is, could be ninety nine, could be six, months.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: But that camera loves her and she loves that camera. Yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: oh my god, is she cre I love her?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: She is really beautiful.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great. Well, I think I think we ought
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: to like move on to Orange County. We are gonna
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for the reunion and I'm not looking
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: forward to those reunion looks. We were talking about this
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: on the drama Darling text thread that everyone except for
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Emily is giving him a chance to sit down to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: see what they look like, and the rest of us
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: hate all of the living.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: She really is giving those people a chance too, As
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: she said, sit down, you know, sit down in their outfits.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: That at the best way an alpha can be is standing.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: So what sitting down will never bring you up in
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: a in a dress, in formal wear, It just can't. No,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: you're punching. Let's think about you know, for who was
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: it on Beverly Hills when she had her face on
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: the gorgeous Jennifer Tilly, Yes, Jennifer Tilly. When she sat down,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: her face went sideways. You know, it's never gonna.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Be that's a well, that's a good example.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it's it's not like it has to
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: be bad when you said, but you're just opening yourself
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: up just so many more vulnerabilities in terms of things
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: spilling out, spilling over.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: You can't have bows running down your center line.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: What the frig what happened there?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm sorry, No, I'm not sorry, but I like,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I love Brittany, but I don't I can't imagine that.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's she must like it. She wouldn't have
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: worn it, so I don't know, man. But then again,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: it's like I don't look to Brittany for like the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: greatest fashion in the first place. So whatever, No.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: But I would like to, you know, she sat there
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: and did her big, you know, mommy makeover, and I
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: would like something m Boudoir shoe, which I did think
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: she looked great in, Oh stunning, but I would have
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: liked her. This was such an opportunity for her to
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: march on to that stage and stick it to Jack's,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: you know, and unfortunately that won't be happening. No, no,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: you know at this time around, not this time, not
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: this time. All right, right, well it's the time. It's
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: the place we're gonna we're gonna talk about Orange County.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Shannon and Tamra have worked it out and they're going
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: to move forward. I mean great to sit down at
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the quiet woman, you know. Yeah, And for Tamra to
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: start by being like and this was last week, by
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: being like, I'm not apologizing, and then to end it
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: with Shannon, I'm kying when I got a text, I'm
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: just says that I'm just sick to death about the
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: disgusting things I said to you in height, just cheated you.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just so sorry. So you know, I mean, she
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: can turn, she can turn, and I'm glad. It's nice
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: to see Tamra cry and say she's sorry to Shannon.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Shannon has been hurt by her. I know they both
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: hurt each other, but I would say, if you're looking
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: at the scales, it absolutely tips and Tamra's direction.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: So for sure, and Amy, if I could, I'd like
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to start out reminding you, okay, where what happens to
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: me with Tamra, because I do think it's important before
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: we get into this to say it out loud, okay.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: For reasons unknown, for reasons I can't identify within myself,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I have a hard time having anything Tamra does stick
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: in terms of bad behavior, Like I know I've seen it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I see it. I see that people hate her mad
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: all that, and for reasons I can't access her bad
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: behavior does not stick for me. No bounces boom boom.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Bounces like Shannon in that bouncy house. I think it's
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: because we know, we know her so well, because she's
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: been around for so long and her pony tricks. We know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: like she's not gonna throw us a curveball. We know
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: her fastball, we know her. I don't know my baseball pitches.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I end at fastball, I end at curveball.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Is gonna know for me? But like we knows, you know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I mean Lob, I don't. Yeah, seems like those are
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the only one sure.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: So we know what she's gonna throw out right, Yeah,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: she's she's gonna hit low. She's gonna go deep, and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: she's gonna hit low, and she's gonna hit you where
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: it hurts. And then she's gonna come back eventually. It's
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: gonna take a while.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: She'll be at this season next.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah she'll cry and Stacey say she's sorry, But that's right,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: that's what you get. And Vicky said it pretty plainly,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: which I thought it was great when she mediated that
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: lunch at the quiet woman, but she was like, I mean,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: they have history, these are friends, and it's not like
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: they slept with each other's husbands. They didn't steal from
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: each other, So like, what's the problem. They're on a show.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Would they be talking if they were off the show?
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Absolutely not, There's no way. But this is
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a work friendship that runs deep and they have to
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: stick it out. And I respect that for being on
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the reality show that it is. And I think that
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Shannon is way more sensitive than Tamra. Tamra is saying, like,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: it's not deep. I'm joking and it's never been okay,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Like the things that you say you're joking about or whatever,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: it's never been okay. No one ever takes it well.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know why you think that
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to just brush it off. But at least
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: she does eventually apologize, and then we move on, and then.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: We move on. You know, we were discussing before we
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: got on here that it has been a bit of
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: a slug this oc this twentieth where we should be
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: firing on an all cylinders twenty It seems it seems
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: like what's happening is something gets said, someone collects it,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: collects the bone and immediately marches it over to the person.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's an assembly line of reality and
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: it has it is manufacturing itself and they don't even
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: know it. They're just showing up to work like Laverne
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: and Shirley at the bottle factory. And what I would
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: like to happen is for the for the what is
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: that called the thing a conveyor belt. What I would
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: like to happen is for the conveyor belt to go
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: wonky and for things to get genuinely messed up and
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: for them to have to deal with that. But it's not.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: It's going real smoothly, way too smooth.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: And god, it just feels like when we're starting off
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: an episode talking about and spending a decent amount of
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: time time at the importance of doing tiktoks. You got
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: me worried. That's a hard kickoff of an episode, it is.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: And then to continue on with this door bag that
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Carmela gave to Emily, which is a big price tag,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: which is she trying to buy her her friendship? Yeah,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: of course, I mean this is smart smart decisions.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great, great financial decision.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's fine Gina being like,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: what is she want from you?
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: With these big eenies vibe eating you don't geey, they
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: don't dress you.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I mean like it's a she's trying
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to buy her way in and try to you know,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Brown knows the newcomers. But Gina, just wait for your birthday.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: If you're nice, she'll give you something nice too, right, Okay.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Right, God Like, like we you know that's that was
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: the Sutton way. She really stopped with those gifts. But
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: we had he she was dolen amount when she was
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: got on, and.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: That was smart. But we have all of these things
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: that are not sticking, like the Gen and Heather situation
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: that even with the telephone about Emily misspeaking and saying
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: that Heather said that Jen was obsessed with Tamra when
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: actually Heather said that Jen was obsessed with I'm sorry
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that Jen was obsessed with Heather, when actually Heather said
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that Jen was obsessed with Tamera. You know, even that
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: telephone got us nowhere, it's like it just all is.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Going very flast so it's like, yeah, it just sort
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: of plum plunked off the end. No one was there
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: to catch it. No one, it's it's such a bummer. Yeah,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: And I think we've felt this way about OC in
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: general for a while.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: But maybe I don't. I think that I I will
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: speak for myself and say I do agree that a
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: lot of people have felt that way about OC. I
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: have never really been one of those people because I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: can kind of get behind some of the worst seasons
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: and just take it for what it's worth. But this
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: has me like, oh, you should I tell you know,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is Mama medja. Yeah, this is like
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go organize. And I don't even
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: want that on the background. Do you know what I'm
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: saying like that? No? Yeah, no, it's bad. And like
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Vicky's trying to Vicky's god lover. She's like he's trying
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to developer, like she's She's a developer, good one, that's good,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: slammer in her business. I like it. Let's see where that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Goes old times? Yeah, that felt like old time.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: It did. She knows where to go hit the business.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: That's where she's the best. She wants to talk about business.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: She's even with the drama. She wants to she wants
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: to stir up drama about people's businesses business. That's what
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I love about Vicky, right.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, even with the Michael thing, It's like when
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: he came in, first of all, you look great, like,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, your son looking great. But forty we finally
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: have something, you know, forty it's like.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Oh god, he was in college like you.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Just I don't have the constitution for it right now.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I really can't crunch it. Honestly, it's I can't.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to choke.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I can't do do to these numbers at this time.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: No, we can't.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I can't. With all the love in the world, I
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: cannot crunch.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: But what I do enjoy is that, no matter what,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: we are always going to come back to vickiy in
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: a confessional saying, I regret divorcing divorcing Don, and no
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: matter what, no matter how.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: She regrets that ship and just A is for Don.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: You know, Oh that hurts. Like but even that moment
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: where this reveal that Michael has not seen his sister
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: in a and has not met his nieces and nephews
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: at least two of them.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Vicky really brushed over that as if nothing was wrong,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: and that they like talk and FaceTime all the time.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: And it was when she said that, I was like, oh,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: well that's a relief. But then I was like, but wait,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: that is not Some people are not normal, No, some
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: people are. The internets are swirling about like allegedly like
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Ryan is the problem, like Brianna's Brianda's husband, like the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: he's the Michael and Ryan is I mean, he is
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a problem.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: But it would be nice to have a little that
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: was juicy, you know, like let's can we can we
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: ask a follow up question instead.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Of dredge up Brianna in uh, where is she? Where
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: is she?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Kansas City is you know?
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: But what's going on there? And I would have liked
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: to have heard if he is facetiming every once a week.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I would have liked to have heard her say when's
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the last time you FaceTime? Oh? Last week? Because I
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: don't think that happened. She she was just she was
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: on mute.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: There was show no, because she has her boundaries. She
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: comes back on the show, She's like, would I talk
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: about let me take it by Bridet? I talk about
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: like Greg Kid, are you gonna talk about love my life?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And maybe I'll get a rig and said how much time.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: We were good, and.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I did love that Emily in this game
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: at their I don't know what the party was. I
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: don't even know I tapped.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Out that was whatever the funk that was was so
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: upsetting and so insulting to me, and so it was
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I felt that was some bottom barrel ish.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: What I mean in the world, What in good God
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: in the Michaels are you doing?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Like, get out of here?
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Please? What time of year is this? Is this the Fall?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Well, God bless it. You better get into some fall activities.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I want to see pumpkins dunk some fucking caramel apples.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I don't care, but this is insane. Heather puts people
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: in a box and now we're doing a game, and
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: then we have Gina. The only funny part to me
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: was Gina and her confessional be like these game that demages.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: He's not eating gem upleases did something that's not about
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Hea here. We need to boxing about either.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just but I am. I'm happy
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: for Gina. I'm so happy that she has literally no
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: drama in her life, that there's anything to you know,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: expedite there. I'm sorry, like Expedite Excavate there, you know gvate. Yeah, like, yeah,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: she's great, but like this is bad.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: But that does not show make you know, love like
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: great to talk for. Yeah, your hair looks healthy and
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: your life is sorted and you're making money fantastic. Listen.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Did I take the feedback and say to myself, get
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: your fat ass over on TikTok and start chicking and
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: start talking.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah I did.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: But that's not again, for a show. That's for like
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: a special, that's for just like interstitial stuff that like
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: is not main That's not where we kick off an episode.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: That's not the main feed. Guys, you know no put
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: that in your stories. That's not the main feed of Bravo.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you freaking Bravo Television. And we're not going to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: have an intervention with Shannon about how she needs to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: bump up her social media. But what I do want
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: to know is I'm glad she got those boat pants
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: at that store. We saw her eyeing, and she wore
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: them on the boat. I also enjoyed seeing that whale.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I also saw on CNN Instagram that there was a
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: whale born in the ocean and a drone caught it
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: all and it's quite beautiful. Check it out.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Well. The fact that you're even having to pull that
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: in yeah, for this episode says it all.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: You know that you're let me tell you about what
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I did in the pens drawer, Okay.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: During this, during the during the boat trip, during the game.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, here is a genuine thought I did have.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Amy hand to God, I said to myself, the producers
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: have had it. Whoever has been producing o C. I'm
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: not even putting on the girls. I swear to God.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I said, this is a dusty producing team and they
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: have lost their way, they have lost their mama's spirit. Okay,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: well how I felt.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna throw it on the girls, and that's fine.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: You you put on the producers. I'm gonna slap it
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: right back over to those girls who are making six
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: fucking figures. And Tamra is reading from a piece of
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: paper how the game goes. This is your game, babe,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: learn it.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Learn it, learn it. Learn your lines, honey, it's the producer.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: The producer printed this out for me and it says this.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, you know, go back over to Teddy.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Why don't you just do a whole season of you
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: and Teddy because that was moving and I appreciated that. Okay,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: but this is bad. It's real, it's real. And then Vicky,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I did I did find it funny that Emily was
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: like told Vicky that her box was that she was
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: a Debbie Downer because that hits right between the eyes.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I like, of all the things you could call Vicky, like,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I could spend a year thinking
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: about what to call her, and I wouldn't have hit
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: the worst thing, and that is Debbie Downer because she
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: fancies her. So will whoop it up? Oh yeah, you know.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: And not to slight the insult, but I will say
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: it's recycled because she did hit up Shannon and she
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: was like, I want fun Shannon, You're not fun Shannon,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: And she did that a long time ago.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of the same. It's you know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: it's pulling from the same deck, but still funny, still funny,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: and I think funny, like, hey, you know, you're back
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: on this show and people are gonna want to see
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: whoop it up, so you better get whooping it up
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: for not only me and not in but for the fans.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate that.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Good point. Good point, Well, Heather, you know, she's been
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: clocked out for quite some time. I will say a
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: lot of the seasons she comes very fancy pants and
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: then she's and I feel angry because I feel like
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: she's just doing a literal character that she dive back in,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: like iOS in the nineties, and I'm like, okay, and
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: then and then she settles into herself. She came self
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: from this one. We are not doing any character work
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: around being rich at this moment. And I'm like, I
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: guess I miss it, you know, cause it just is
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: you know, I think just maybe she's like, this is
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: dire straits for us.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I better show the people something.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: New, something new, a new feeling, and I don't even
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: know what it is.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she is workshopping some stuff right now. Yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: And it is a little confusing at times because it
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't let us go anywhere. I'm trying to figure it out.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I kind of don't really want to try to figure
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: anything out, like, because it's.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Not id you you know, why would you waste your
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: time if they're not going to do it? So you're
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: going to have to do the heavy. Yeah, you're gonna
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: have to punch the clock.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: No, it's not true crime, so I don't it's not
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I need it delivered to me. Yes, I needed Postmates,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I need door Dash. I don't want to have to
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: like go on Reddit and figure out what's happening. But
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: when Heather was talking with Tamra and and Jen, and
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Heather was like, I just I am who I am,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: and this is what it is. And I feel like
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I am giving you what I am and how and
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: who that's it. And she's like so convincing, and so
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: it literally disarms Tamra and Jen systematically where it's like
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: weapons down, like they don't even know what to do.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: She neutralized them, and there's nowhere to go from that
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: because she is kind of like, yeah, I already said
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: what I said and that's that, and I'm not mad.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I'm also I also love you guys. I also want
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: to move forward and that's that. And it's like, Okay,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. We're on a beautiful cul de sac with
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: nowhere to freaking go. It's a dead end. It looks nice,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: but it's a dead end. And Jen is now left
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: in her confessional going, I tried something. I tried to
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: stir it up with Heather did not go anywhere. That's
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: not gonna work. Also, I'm gonna put her in a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: box because uh can't. I can't work with her in
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: terms of like dredging anything up. And even Tamor's like, so, yeah,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: what's next. I'm gonna try to figure something else out
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: like they just are done, because like, and I kind
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: of appreciate Heather being organic to the situation where she's saying,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: now it's gonna feed the beast of false narratives and
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: go down a wormhole of like this bullshit because I
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: didn't appreciate it when Jen was doing this either, because
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is waste of time. So I do
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: appreciate what Heather's doing. But then we're left with.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Like, upkiss up, kiss, So it's it's bad.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: It's bad, And I get you know, we have these seasons,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: and I think we're just gonna have to lean in into.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: You know, we have these seasons.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: You now one thousand dollars thirty five thousand? Did you
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: know thirty five thousand dollars a month on rent? Did
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: you know forty five? Wasn't it forty five? I thought
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I jotted down forty five. Hold on, you might be right. No,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: it came to four hundred and fifty thousand.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: For the year. Oh so it might have been thirty five. Yeah,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you're right, thirty five, thirty five.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: But it's so funny because who said, well, now I
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: know how much you make in how much you pay
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: in rent? Any was camera and I liked that she
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: was trying to like bring that bone so that maybe
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Carmela could be mad about someone talking about her rent.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: But we're left again in the call to Sack of Nowhere.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: The bones are just fall bones are driven to thinking
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: very your about.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Don't all right, it's a quitting time. We're gonna punch
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: out for the day, see tomorrow.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: The other thing I'm feeling is like just to go
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: back to the TikTok of it all. It's like with
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: love at what age, m at what age do you
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: get to where you can just be like, no, I
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: don't want to I don't want to do that. I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: don't want to do tiktoks. I'm at this big age
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: and I not TikTok like that any tiktoks. You know.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: It's almost just like, do I have to like how
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: old Shannon's in her late sixties? Early? Is she in
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: her early seventies? Shannon storms buttour what sorry?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I know what? No to say to hear someone say
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: early seventies just kills me.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, so sorry, sixty two she's sixty two? My bad,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: my bad?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, you wait, take that again. Yeah, don't make me laugh,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: so oh I will die? Okay, So take it about like,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: so how old is Shannon?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, so how old is Shannon? Is she like
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: she's in her sixties?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, sixty two.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: It's just like, okay, so sixty two. It's just like,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: at what age do you get to be like I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: actually just want to live my life and I don't
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: regardless of And also, Heather, I'm sorry, how much do
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: you need coming in from these tiktoks? It seems to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: quite healthy, and I guess like, also I'm jealous because
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not making any money off of my tiktoks and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I don't actually have any tiktoks, so like I'm looking
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: at myself. But also well, it's just like at some
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: point sort of like not caring so much about how
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: you look. You should be able to breathe a little
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: breathing room and not have to focus on social media
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: in your sixties.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: You don't want to, right if you don't, And I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: think Shannon is saying it in her confessional, I just
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: want a rotary phone and be done with it. And
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, respect, Shannon, yes and thank you. And
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna do a TikTok.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I need an intervention.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: No. And if let's let's lean into who Shannon is,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: and if you're gonna do tiktoks, have her sitting with
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: her dogs and showing them, showing the community how to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: use a rotary phone, you know, and be done. That's all.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Listen, I gotta go do some tiktoks. Okay, I
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: gotta go put an eyelons over my head and blow
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: out a candle stuck in a watermelon.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Lauren, have mercy. I mean I did.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Laugh, but you know you did see I didn't. I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: was like, huh. I thought to myself. No, here's what
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I thought. I thought, good for them, this is their
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: sense of humor. This is not my sense of humor,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: and I am not on that level. And I just
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: don't get joy from that. But then I thought, I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: wonder how many people really love this stuff, and there
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: must be a lot of people out there who love it.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people out there who love the stuffy, right.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: There has to be. There has to be for them
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: to keep getting the hits that they're getting. Okay, our lesson.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: We are a country that has some base desires at times,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: you know, and so they're just doing.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: They're leaning into what works for them.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, right amongst you know, I'm sure the number that
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: they're making, we would turn our tune right around. Yeah,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: would probably be like, I'll see you up in Santa
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Clarita with a freaking nylon and let.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thank you. Well, look you've got a point there,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: all right. Well let's c the numbers. See what we got,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: all right, thirty five thousand a mons are Let's do
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: it drama, Yeah, dNaM Chang check her on Instagram and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the montage queen how to be less old substack baby bye,