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How did young mom's body end up in a landfill if she 'committed suicide?' What happened to Kerrilee D'Avolio? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. Yeah, my name is Jeborimaut
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  Speaker 1: the police department. About eleven am this morning on a
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  Speaker 1: police department received information from Nina County nine one regarding
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  Speaker 1: a man who had entered a business in Chadwick's, New York.
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  Speaker 1: He had had a conversation with a family member and
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  Speaker 1: he the information he gave to the family member was
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  Speaker 1: alarming to him. It was actually his brother. His brother
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  Speaker 1: then called nine one one to relay information that he
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  Speaker 1: was under the impression that homicide had occurred on Belmont
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  Speaker 1: Street in the city of Rome. You are hearing a
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  Speaker 1: live press conference out of Rome, New York covered by
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  Speaker 1: wukt V. First of all, again I starts talking to
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  Speaker 1: apparently his brother at a family business, and whatever he
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  Speaker 1: tells the brother makes the brother call nine one one.
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  Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. You know I don't get it before
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  Speaker 1: I go any further into the fact, straight out to
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  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst out of la You know, Bethany,
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  Speaker 1: I know you see it all. You know, all kemped
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  Speaker 1: up in your luxury pad. They're in Beverly Hills. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've never felt so bad about myself as when I
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  Speaker 1: walked down the street. I just wanted to see what
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  Speaker 1: Rodeo drive I eat Rodeo drive was. I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: so many tall, skinny, perfectly blonde, straight teeth, big fake
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  Speaker 1: boob women in my life. I felt awful. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if I'd had a car out there, I would have
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  Speaker 1: gone and hidden in it. The last thing I could
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  Speaker 1: do is go into one of those stores where you
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  Speaker 1: pay three hundred dollars for a skirt that you can
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  Speaker 1: put one leg into. I mean, I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you do it. So my point is, I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 1: heard it all, But what does it say to you
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  Speaker 1: when a guy goes into like a family owned business
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  Speaker 1: and starts yaking to the point his own brother calls
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  Speaker 1: nine one wood, I'm an idiot. I believe he went
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  Speaker 1: with his two year old, four year old and five
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  Speaker 1: year old Nancy. It tells me that, as is the
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  Speaker 1: case with most criminals, he is kind of stupid. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he has no cause and effects thinking, he does not
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  Speaker 1: have a grasp on the big picture to commit the crime.
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  Speaker 1: He begins to try to cover up the story by
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  Speaker 1: running straight to his brother's business and telling him a
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  Speaker 1: story that absolutely makes no sense at all. And the
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  Speaker 1: sad thing is that this perpetrator probably believed the story
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  Speaker 1: he was telling by the time he told it, and
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  Speaker 1: he thought that his brother would believe him too. But
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  Speaker 1: we see this with criminals, right. They have a hard
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  Speaker 1: time anticipating that other people will have insight into the
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  Speaker 1: stupidity of their actions. Speak of the police press conference.
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  Speaker 1: Now you know there's a glaring, a glaring let me
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  Speaker 1: just say clue. Wendy Patrick, California Prosecutor Extraordinaire, author of
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  Speaker 1: red Flags on Amazon. Here's a red flag for you, Andy.
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  Speaker 1: He shows up at the family business with all of
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  Speaker 1: his children, but one person is clearly missing. You've got
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  Speaker 1: the dad, You've got all the children. Uh, where's mommy?
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to more of that police presser and
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  Speaker 1: found some circumstances that are suspicious to us and indicative
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  Speaker 1: of the aftermath of a serious crime. There was no
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  Speaker 1: one home at that time. As a result of that
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  Speaker 1: initial response, in subsequent investigations, several people have been interviewed,
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  Speaker 1: including a gentleman that is known as Jason Tifoglio, and
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  Speaker 1: we are questioning him at this time regarding the disappearance
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  Speaker 1: and what we believed to be the homicide of Kerry
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  Speaker 1: Lee l. I mean, why did they talk like that.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to ask you that, Wendy Patrick. They say,
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  Speaker 1: circumstances indicative of a serious crime. Translation. We found the
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  Speaker 1: house that looked like it was ransacked. There was blood everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: the furniture was upside down, clearly, there was a sign
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  Speaker 1: of a struggle, and there was a knife lying on
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen table dripping blood. Instead, they say circumstances indicative
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  Speaker 1: of a serious crime. Okay, explain that cop. Talk to me. Hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: I've had to do it myself before. But why do
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  Speaker 1: they talk like that, Wendy. Yeah. Part of the same
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  Speaker 1: reason that we have to talk like that sometimes impressors
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  Speaker 1: is it's this pre trial publicity is wanting to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that the defendant gets a fair trial and that
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  Speaker 1: everybody's innocent until proven guilty. And it's hard to restrain
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  Speaker 1: ourselves when we know what the facts are and we
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  Speaker 1: know how bad the circumstantial evidence looks. To sort of
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  Speaker 1: sanitize it and make it clinical enough to where you're
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  Speaker 1: actually able to talk to the press about it and
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  Speaker 1: not be accused of attempting to prejudice an upcoming y pool.
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  Speaker 1: And you're right about the you know, coming into this business.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta laugh though, Nancy, you talk about these blonde
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  Speaker 1: perfect you are beautiful, so it's it's hard to hear
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  Speaker 1: you say that you would go and hide in your car.
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  Speaker 1: But be that as it may, be, that as it
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  Speaker 1: may When you do have the family coming into the
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  Speaker 1: store all together like that, you know, family members, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: we say willful blindness. You don't want to see that
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  Speaker 1: a loved one is actually culpable of committing a crime
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  Speaker 1: like this. On the other hand, when the emotional dynamics
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  Speaker 1: change to such an extent that you cannot deny that
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  Speaker 1: somebody's absence leads to some nefarious conclusion, that's also very telling,
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  Speaker 1: and that no doubt explains why the brother called the police.
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  Speaker 1: Want to go to crime online dot Com investigative reporter
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  Speaker 1: Levi Page Levi, I want to start this at the
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  Speaker 1: very beginning, okay, because I got carried away with him
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  Speaker 1: sauntering over to the family business and yacking to the
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  Speaker 1: extent that the brother calls nine one one, Okay. I
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  Speaker 1: want to start at the beginning, the who, what, where, when, why?
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  Speaker 1: And then I'll take it from there. Who is this
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  Speaker 1: guy they keep talking about? Rome? Is Rome New York
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  Speaker 1: and they every state has a Rome. There's a Rome Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: They refer to themselves as Romans. Okay, as do I.
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  Speaker 1: But this is Rome, New York. What do we know
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  Speaker 1: about Rome, New York? What do you know about this
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  Speaker 1: scenario where this guy, Jason Devoglio goes into the family
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  Speaker 1: business and essentially starts bracket. So this is about four
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  Speaker 1: and a half hours north of New York City and
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  Speaker 1: where they live in Rome, New York. It's actually a
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  Speaker 1: very quaint home. The neighborhood is lined with trees. It
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  Speaker 1: seems very quiet and peaceful, not something that you not
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  Speaker 1: a place where you would think of brutal murder would
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  Speaker 1: go down. But that is what police think happened. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: wait wait wait wa wa wa wa wa. You got
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  Speaker 1: me at tree lined Okay, because okay, doctor Bethany Marshall,
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  Speaker 1: I know you hate when I do this, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: going back in time to where I grew up. They
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  Speaker 1: were only about three or four houses max in you know,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred acres, and it was tree lined, all right.
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  Speaker 1: It was a red dirt road and it was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: We could ride our bikes after school as long as
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  Speaker 1: we wanted. We could, you know, slash through creeks and streams.
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  Speaker 1: We could be able to pinestraw forts and yes, throw
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  Speaker 1: pine cones at each other. I mean our dogs. We
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  Speaker 1: could run around with them. I mean we just when
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  Speaker 1: I hear tree line, now I know, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to go back to leave my page on this. We
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  Speaker 1: say this tree line, it sounds like kind of a
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  Speaker 1: subdivision where trees are intentionally built along the street. But
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  Speaker 1: it sounds so like I want to go there. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to go late in somebody's hammock in the backyard,
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  Speaker 1: and she'll acts, that's what it sounds like. And it's
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  Speaker 1: hard for people to see. That's the problem at trial,
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  Speaker 1: which I'll circle back to Wendy Patrick, n and Karen Smith.
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  Speaker 1: But it's hard to tell you in that there's a
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  Speaker 1: potential murder down the street. In your quote tree line neighborhood,
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  Speaker 1: Levi Page is describing. And yet Nancy, when you look
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  Speaker 1: at the profile of men who kill, one of the
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  Speaker 1: things you read is that they are usually middle aged
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  Speaker 1: family men to four children in suburbs, and they drive
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  Speaker 1: family vehicles. That's one of the things that always stick.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like you're describing David Lynch. Go ahead, can
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  Speaker 1: you tell me so? The profile is of a person
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  Speaker 1: who lives in an idelic neighborhood. It is not some
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  Speaker 1: guy lurking on the street corner in a trench coat.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a man who's so antisocial that he never
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  Speaker 1: gets married, never has children. These men have a veneer
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  Speaker 1: of assability and sociability. They can be ministers, parmickchanics, policemen,
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  Speaker 1: but Nancy, they almost always have wives and children, murderers too,
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  Speaker 1: So they are an idea. Like you know, you're totally
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  Speaker 1: freaking me out as usual, doctor Bethany, at least for
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  Speaker 1: what's so far anyway, you haven't tied it to Santo masochism.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just waiting on that. But Wendy Patrick right now,
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  Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of Red Flags on Amazon, she's absolutely
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  Speaker 1: right as usual. You know, I wish I could catch
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  Speaker 1: her being wrong just once, but so far I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, you know that reminds me of what she's saying,
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, BTK Treeline neighborhood, wife, children, he was a
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  Speaker 1: dog catcher, and a big deal in his church. Wendy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you know you talk about this. This is the
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  Speaker 1: the axe murderer next door. This is the exact same
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  Speaker 1: circumstance that we see repeatedly where when you actually look
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  Speaker 1: below the surface, even though they have jobs and they
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  Speaker 1: have wives and they have kids, when you look below
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  Speaker 1: the surface, there are still those signs of psychopathy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when doctor Bethany would know more than I about the
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  Speaker 1: actual the clinical signs that the family members would see,
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  Speaker 1: but they've got to see them. There's no way that
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  Speaker 1: you have just this. You know, sometimes they even do
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  Speaker 1: go to church, but there's no fruit. There's no outward
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  Speaker 1: sense that this is a good person. In fact, quite
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  Speaker 1: to the contrary, when you look and actually talk to
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  Speaker 1: the co workers, to the family members, to the wife,
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  Speaker 1: all of those signs are there. But again unless the
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  Speaker 1: something actually happens, or I should say until until something
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  Speaker 1: actually happens, you almost want to look the other way
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  Speaker 1: and mute these red flags to where they become. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're wearing rose colored glasses instead of your reading glasses.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why it's not that you don't see them,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't report them. Crime stories with Nancy Grace No.
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  Speaker 1: Police say Jason Diavolio went to his brother's business in
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  Speaker 1: Chadwick's Monday morning along with him and Karen Le's three
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  Speaker 1: young children. After that, police say Jason's brother called nine
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  Speaker 1: one one. Jason shared alarming information that a homicide may
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  Speaker 1: have occurred on Belmont Street. Welcome back, everybody, I mean it.
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  Speaker 1: See Grace. This his crime stories. A an Upstate suburban
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  Speaker 1: dad of three goes to the family business and talks
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  Speaker 1: in a way that makes his own brother call nine
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  Speaker 1: one one. He's got his three children in tow with him.
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  Speaker 1: They're all very, very young. Someone is obviously missing. It's
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  Speaker 1: like cutting a head off a body in the church
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  Speaker 1: directory picture. Mommy is gone. Joining me right now, Wendy Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of Read Flags on Amazon, doctor Bethany Marshall,
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  Speaker 1: renowned psychoanalysts out of La joining me, really well known
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  Speaker 1: forensic expert Karen Smith, founder of Bare Bones Consulting. But
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  Speaker 1: right now, to Crimeline dot Com investigative reporter Levi Page,
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  Speaker 1: we keep saying family business, family business, family business. What
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  Speaker 1: can you tell me about that his brother worked in
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  Speaker 1: an auto shop and after police believe that he killed
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  Speaker 1: his wife. He showed up at this auto shop and
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  Speaker 1: started talking to his brother about how he says, his wife,
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight year old Carolite Davaglio, killed herself, and he
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  Speaker 1: cleaned up the scene the home, took the weapon that
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  Speaker 1: she used and disposed of it, and then threw her
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  Speaker 1: body away in a dumpster. That's what he told his brother.
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  Speaker 1: His brother was understandably very alarmed, and he picked up
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  Speaker 1: the telephone and he called nine one one. Hey, stop
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  Speaker 1: right there, stop right there. Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm drinking out of a fire, Hijah
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  Speaker 1: Leavi page. Okay. He goes, did you say it's auto
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  Speaker 1: salvage or what kind of family business is it? It's
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  Speaker 1: an auto shop. I think it's like a repair shop,
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  Speaker 1: repair shop, Okay. So he goes in with this shildren
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  Speaker 1: and he says what he says, that his wife killed herself,
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  Speaker 1: that she shot herself, and that he cleaned up the home,
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  Speaker 1: got rid of the gun, through it in a canal,
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  Speaker 1: and then to her body and put it in a dumpster.
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  Speaker 1: And then his brother called nine one, and that's when
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  Speaker 1: police showed up and arrested him as a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: take a listen to our friend at Eyewitness News, Ben Dennis.
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  Speaker 1: Approximately shortly after eight o'clock our dive team arrived set
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  Speaker 1: up on the shore of the Bard's Canal, and I
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  Speaker 1: believe around nine am or shortly thereafter, the weapon was recovered.
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  Speaker 1: It was a relatively new weapon, hadn't been in the
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  Speaker 1: water very long. It is evidence believed to be part
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  Speaker 1: of their case. Therefore, we recovered it, secured it, and
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  Speaker 1: then obviously the evidence was transferred to the Rome Police Department. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like you said, Levi Page. I want to
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  Speaker 1: go straight out to Karen Smith, forensics expert. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's usually a simple matter of comparing ballistics one gun
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  Speaker 1: to a bullet five, but in this case there's no
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  Speaker 1: body yet anyway. So the other thing is, did you
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  Speaker 1: hear what he said? They had to bring out a dog.
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  Speaker 1: I've team now before I had the twins. I have
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  Speaker 1: not done this since I had the twins. They've got
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  Speaker 1: on a lot of snorkeling and a lot of deep
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  Speaker 1: water snorkeling together, where there's devices that you can actually
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  Speaker 1: go down underwater and you're a snorkel tube will close
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  Speaker 1: and you can stay under water, you know, as long
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  Speaker 1: as you haul your breath. But no diving. No diving
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  Speaker 1: since the twins came. But can I tell you, in
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  Speaker 1: a lake such as this, it's really hard to see
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  Speaker 1: due to sediment on the bottom of the lake. But
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  Speaker 1: they manage to find a gun. How hard is that,
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  Speaker 1: Karen Smith? It's not easy, and you're right, the visibility
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  Speaker 1: would be extraordinarily limited. You're dealing with touch and feel here.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to be so much lake water. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've all seen lakes, We've all most of us have
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  Speaker 1: been swimming in lakes. It's not you know, I'm always
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  Speaker 1: worried about a turtle or something, you know, pinching me
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  Speaker 1: or coming up and swimming around me. That's why I
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  Speaker 1: don't like lakes when they But when you're looking for
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  Speaker 1: an item such as a gun or a rifle or
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  Speaker 1: whatever was used, it's touch and feel and you use
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  Speaker 1: a grid search. You start in one area, you flag it,
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  Speaker 1: you put out lines if you have to, you follow
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  Speaker 1: those lines, and you literally go along the bottom and
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  Speaker 1: you feel for any items. And apparently they were very
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  Speaker 1: successful and within a couple of hours they found the gun.
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  Speaker 1: So kudos to them. They did a great job. So
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  Speaker 1: back to the scene. You got to figure out the
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  Speaker 1: scene of what we think is a crime. You got
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  Speaker 1: to find out if there are any bullets there, where
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  Speaker 1: is the Mom's just this some crazy story he's come
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  Speaker 1: up with. Back to Levi page and I hear you
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  Speaker 1: say he told his brother that his wife, Kia Lee,
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  Speaker 1: committed suicide, that she shot herself dead. That what he said. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's what he told his brother. And he also told
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement that as well. Okay. And then he said
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  Speaker 1: that not only did she kill herself, that he then
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  Speaker 1: cleaned up the scene and hid the body. And I
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  Speaker 1: get that right, Levi, Yes, and hid the gun through
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  Speaker 1: the gun in the canal. And law enforcement say when
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  Speaker 1: they found that gun in the canal that they examined
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  Speaker 1: it and it appeared that it had not been in
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  Speaker 1: the canal very long at all. Okay, So explain something
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  Speaker 1: to me, doctor Bethany Marshall. If somebody commits suicide or
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  Speaker 1: somebody's your upstad I got Jackie Howard here in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: No offense, Jackie, But if you kill over, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to go hide your body in a dump. Thank
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome, and you get rid of whatever you're drinking
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  Speaker 1: in that cup right there, that massive, gigantic cup. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's saying there A strong suspicions, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to try to quote get rid of the evidence,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany. That sounds like a load of Let me
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  Speaker 1: just say b S technical legal term. You know. The
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  Speaker 1: only explanation I can go back to, Nancy is something
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  Speaker 1: I've said so many times on your show before. We
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  Speaker 1: know in the field of psychology that sociopaths are born
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  Speaker 1: with less anxiety than the rest of the population, and
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  Speaker 1: because they have low levels of anxiety, they never think
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  Speaker 1: they're going to get caught and they make stupid decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Anxiety is what causes the conscience to form, Like when
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  Speaker 1: we're little and we do something bad and then we're
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  Speaker 1: afraid that mommy will be mad at us and mommy
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  Speaker 1: will withdraw her love. Many of these interactions with our
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  Speaker 1: mothers throughout development cause the conscience to form. Sociopaths miss
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  Speaker 1: out on this whole process because they have low levels
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  Speaker 1: of anxiety about getting into trouble, so they would do
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  Speaker 1: something like clean up the scene, tell a big fat
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  Speaker 1: lie about it, think that nobody will see through because
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  Speaker 1: they don't really feel the weight of what they've done.
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  Speaker 1: You and I would be terrible. First of all, we
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, But secondly we would be so terrified.
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  Speaker 1: If I walk down the street or I'm driving my
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  Speaker 1: car and I see a police officer, I think I've
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  Speaker 1: done something wrong. I mean, my anxiety level is high
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  Speaker 1: about these kinds of things. The sociopath has no anxiety
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  Speaker 1: at all. Another issue, dot do Bethany Marshall. He comes
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  Speaker 1: in and tells this to his brother, like to see
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  Speaker 1: actually think the brother is going to cover for him
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  Speaker 1: in an alleged homicide of his sister in law, the
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  Speaker 1: mother of these three little children. I mean, you know
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  Speaker 1: how all the children are, right, Massilie two, four and five?
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  Speaker 1: Is my understanding? Yeah, Nancy. It could be one of
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  Speaker 1: two things or bulls. One is that he's beginning to
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  Speaker 1: build a narrative to cover the crime. The other is
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that he's so pleased with himself he wants to go
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and break about it. My cat killed the mouse the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: other day, brought the mouse in, started throwing it around.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: The cat looked so fat and happy that he brought
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: me this gift that he had killed mouse. I somehow.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I sometimes think sociopaths feel like that after they've killed somebody,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: that they kind of there's a quality of gloating, there's
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: a quality of having enjoyed the experience. And I understand
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: these two were going through a divorce, so there could
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: be this additional motive of not wanting to divide assets
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm not wanting the white today, and then a
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: period of relief after having killed her. So then he
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: goes and breaks to the brother. Hi, guys, Nancy Grace
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: here a beautiful mom of two. In fact, I call
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: her a Reese Witherspoon look alike because in a lot
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: of pictures that's exactly who she looks like. The mother
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: of two beautiful little children, including an eight year old
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: little girl, is found dead in a bloody bathtub a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: slip and fall, and her eight year old daughter Anna
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: is the one that found her. This Saturday, six o'clock Eastern,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: five Central on Oxygen Injuice with Nancy Grace, we investigate
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the death of Shelley Danishevsky because I do not believe
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: this was a slip and fall, and from what I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: can see, there has been a grave injustice on many levels.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Please join us in a search for the truth. This Saturday,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: six pm Eastern, five Central Injustice with Nancy Grace. Thanks guys,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. We are still conducting interviews
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: with him and we are trying to locate the location
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: where we believe that he placed her body. Where we
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: would like to help from the public is information is
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: being given to us that her body may have been
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: placed in a dumpster somewhere within the city of Rome.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: We had patrols actively checking every dumpster that we could
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: come across in the city. However, if there is a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: business out there or people live in a housing development
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that of dumpsters, if they're comfortable looking at those dumpsters
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: in case we missed it, and if they find anything
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that's suspicious in nature at all, please do not touch it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Call ther Olle Police Department right away. You are hearing
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a police press conference. Square cops are begging people to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: search for this young mom, Kirelee Develio's body. Can you
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: imagine her family must just be horrified and one day
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: what her children, who are all under a five and
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: under are gonna look at all this and reread it online.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Where everyone's being asked to search for their mother's body. Oh,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: they're searching dumpsters, They're searching trash cans, begging people to
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: look for her, this gorgeous young mom of three. In
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the meanwhile, the husband, Jason Devilio, says his wife, his
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: young wife committed suicide, and he took it upon himself
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to clean up the sane dispose of her suicide weapon.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Straight out to Karen smith Ensi, expert founder of Beer
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Bones Consulting, you know, searching a landfill a dump is
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: a daunting, overwhelming task. I just can't describe it. I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: mean people that go out and search, if they're not
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: in a hazmat suit, they actually will pass out from
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the fumes. Explain how you go about searching a dump
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it is. I've done it a number of times, one
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: for a six month old, maybe another for a torso,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and other times for murder weapons, so I can tell
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you that you're right. It is a sensory overload experience
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: in every aspect. It's hot. You know, there's vultures and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: seagulls picking up god knows what and flying off with it,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and you are dealing with an enormous amount of refuse.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: The thing about landfills, though, is that they're actually gritted out,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and they're a fairly organized place. It's not like trash
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: is just randomly dumped there. So depending on where apparently
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: he placed her body, they're going to follow that truck
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that is scheduled to pick up that dumpster. That truck
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: has then scheduled to dump in a certain place in
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that landfill. So they're not dealing with, you know, a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: square mile worth of landfill trash. They're going to be
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: dealing with maybe a few tennis courts sized area. Even
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: though that is still an ungodly amount of trash to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: go through, it does narrow down the possibilities of finding her.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: It's just so overwhelming. I remember the first time I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: was involved with a landfill, a dump search. It is overwhelming.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: That leads me to this heartbreaking conclusion. Here at the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Ava landfill where Rome Police believe, with the assistance of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: State Police cadaver dogs, they have found the body of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: thirty two year old Carrie. Lead Devolio of Rome will
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: take a look at the activity behind me. Oft in
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the distance, you might be able to see a black
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and white Rome police cruiser a little to the left
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of that as a minivan which could be a coroner's van,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: but we're simply not close enough to make that determination
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: for sure. But again, police still on the scene here
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: at the Ava landfill. You're hearing from our friend at
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: w KTV. That's Jolene Ferris straight out to crime online
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter at levipage. What can you tell
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: me about the landfill and how they found the body.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the body of Kerley Devilio, the mother
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: of three. Before they found the body, Jason Devoglio actually
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: led police to the dumpster where he said he put
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: his wife, but the sanitation workers had transported it to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the landfill, and that's when they had to go to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the landfill and sift through everything to find her body,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: which was wrapped in a bedsheet when they found it.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: With me Levipage, crime online dot Com investigative reporter, I'm
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: looking at the video of the search. First, I see there,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: as you described, tree lined neighborhood. It looks like the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: perfect place to raise children. And then the very next
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: thing you see is a giant landfield. I mean how tall,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: how many feet highs that trash lead It's very high,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and it's just sickening to think about and law enforcement
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: has said, whatever happened in that home, that the children two,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: four and five were there in the home when it happened,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and that's the most tragic aspect of this case, besides
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: what happened, that the children were there and they could
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: have possibly witnessed it well. As a matter of fact,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: take a listen to Jason Palace at w KTV. Autopsy
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: could help police learn more about how the role mother
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: of three died. It could also lead to more charges
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: for her husband at your top story here on this
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. The body of Carrie Lee the Bolo was
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: uncovered on Tuesday at the Adle Landfill, Nita County. Sheriff's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: dive team found a long gun in the Bars Canal
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: under the Mill Stry Bridge in Rome. Carry Lee and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: her husband, Jason Devolio. We're going through a divorce now,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: police say. Jason began giving various versions of events. The
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: couple's daughters, ages two, four and five years old, are
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: safe in the care of relatives. It's still unknown though,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: what if anything, they witnessed. Well, you know, as Levi
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Page Crime online dot Com investigative reporter is describing the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: children of five and under I mean, doctor Bethany Marshall,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: do you remember the case of Susan Powell, her husband
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Josh Powell. Susan goes missing in the middle of the night.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: It's freezing cold outside. Josh Powell, the husband, says that
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: he's taken the boys spur of the moment camping. It's freezing,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: there's snow on the ground. When asked to describe what
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: happened that night, the children really couldn't say much, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they drew pictures of themgoing camping and mommy is in
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the car trunk. Nancy, this sounds like so many other
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: stories you've covered where father takes underaged children on some
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: crazy wild trip as a cover for the fact that
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: he's killed his wife. I mean, doesn't this sounds have
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a familiar ring to it, and there's poor children being
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: dread out into the wilderness. You know, one of the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: things we see in domestic homicides is that there is
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a period of domestic violence, generally that precedes the crime,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and in the midst of these domestic incidents that the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: children are used as pawns. Right. We see this again
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and again, and sometimes the children are killed along with
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the mother. I mean, I would just say in this case,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: thank God that the children are still alive, because they
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: could have been victims of homicide too. This is what
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: we know right now. The body of this young mom
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of three, Kierley Delio, has been uncovered in the ava landfield.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Her husband, Jason Devilio, claims she killed herself. But I mean,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the reality, Karen Smith, how do you kill yourself with
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a long gun a rifle? What rig it up with string?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Sheet yourself with your toe? I mean, you can't hold
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: it at a distance and pull the trigger on yourself.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So the story is fantastical, Karen Smill, I mean, talk
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to me about suicide by long gun. I've seen it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: It's not easy. You know, under the chin it's possible
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: with bum pulling the trigger. It's unlikely. It's highly, highly unlikely.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: And you know what, Nancy, Now that they've recovered her body,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that's a crime scene in itself. Now they have a
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: secondary crime scene. Her body is going to go in
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: for autopsy and they're going to do an assessment of
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: where the bullet entered, where the bullet exited, and that
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: is going to tell a huge part of the story
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: in itself, along with the crime scene back at the house.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So the forensics are going to tell the entire story
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: of this case from top to bottom, from the ballistics
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to the trajectory to any blood stains left at the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: crime scene. Those forensic technicians have their work cut out
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: for them, but I think the story is going to
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: unfold in quick time crime stories with Nancy Grace. Investigators
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: will also look to cell phones and other electronics gathered
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: to tell them about potential motive what might have led
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to carry lead Devolio's killing. District Attorney mcnamaro believes the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: couple's children, ages two, four, and five, were in the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: home at the time, but doesn't know if they saw
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: their mother shot. There will be a time where we'll
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: use the investigators that are properly trained to interview children,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if this is the time. I'm
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: not going to ask anybody to go back and hit
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: these kids up with a hard interview. At this you're
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: hearing law enforcement speaking to our friend at w KTV
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: reporter Jolene Ferris, the children most likely were home. If
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: not home, then where the body of Kerley Devolio has
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: been uncovered at the Ava landfill. Her husband, Jason Devilio
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: claims she killed herself and he took it upon himself
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to clean up the crime scene and dispose of the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: body and the suicide the so called suicide weapon. Levi Page,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: weren't you telling me? Levi Page with me crime online
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter where you can read about this
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: at all other breaking crime and justice news. Levin, didn't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you mention to me that they were in the midst
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: of a divorce. They were in the early stages of
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a divorce, and people are wondering what could motivate this
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: man to possibly kill his wife. Divorce could be a motive.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I checked out her Facebook and she had reverted back
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to her maiden name on Facebook. So I'm wondering, is
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: it possible that she was ready to move on and
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: he was not ready to move on and that is
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: what spurred this anger and possible murder? Well, speaking of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: this cut thirteen, speaking of the children, can you imagine
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: but in a couple of years, My children are like
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: little monkeys when it comes to the phone, the TV,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the iPad. They can tell me anything I want to know.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: They're all over it. There's no way to keep these
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: children curely. Devilio's children from finding out what happened. I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: wonder what their response is going to be and how
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: they're going to digest hearing this from WKTV. This is
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Joeyne Ferris a Channel two. It's of activity this morning
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: regarding the search for this missing mother of three. Heartbreaking
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: conclusion here at the Ava landfill. Like you just said,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: we're Rome Police believe, with the assistance of State police
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: cadaver dogs, they have found the body of thirty two
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: year old Carrie lead Devolio of Rome. We'll take a
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: look at the activity behind me. Oft in the distance,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you might be able to see a black and white
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Rome police cruiser a little to the left of that
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: as a minivan which could be a coroner's van, but
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: we're simply not close enough to make that determination for sure.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: But again, police still on the scene here the Ava Landfill.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Earlier today, about an hour and a half ago in Rome,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we caught up with the Oneida County Sheriff's Department. They
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: were searching the barge canal in an area beneath the
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Mill Street Bridge, where after about an hour of searching,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: they found a long gun which fit the description of
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the gun Rome Police had asked them to search for
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: in connection with this case, I can only imagine dotor
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall when those children get old enough to go
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: online and hear the reports from our friend Jolne Ferris
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Well Nancy. Not only do they face the trauma of
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the loss of their mother, but one of the ways
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: children overcome trauma and have the resiliency to move on
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: throughout the lifespan is that the relationship with family members
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: comforts them, protects them, gives them a feeling of security
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: so that they can get over the trauma. Well, now
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: they've lost that key figure in their life who would
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: be the one person to help them with their trauma.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Their mother, their father's going to go to prison, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: they're going to be placed with relatives or foster care
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: or with some family that's not a first degree relative.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So I would say reading about the homicide is just
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: only the beginning. It's going to be all that disrupted
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: attachments as they're moved out into different homes and possibly
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: even separated. That's where the real tragedy lies. In my
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: mind right now, I believe Lea vi Page that they
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: are with Kirolee's family. They are with her sister, the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: victim's sister. That is the children are with and Nancy,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm thinking of. There was a case
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that I was reading about out of Florida where this
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: young man he was in his twenties, but he was
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: a toddler when his father was suspected of killing his mother.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're gonna say. And he goes
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: back to the childhood home and they start digging and
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: they find the mom skull at my pool, right. So
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: sad about that case is very early on in the investigation, Nancy,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: that little boy told child Protective Services that daddy hurt mommy,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: but they did not charge that husband until he actually
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: sued his father for wrongful death. And they went to
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the home and he was remodeling it and they were
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: digging in the backyard and he discovered his own mother's
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: skull and that's when they charged him. And I think
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: that if the kids know something and they say something,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: that we should take that very serious. You know, you're
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: scaring me because we are now reading each other's mind.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And you're right, no one took him seriously, and he
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: grows up knowing what he thinks he learned as a child.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: This guy finds his mom's skull in his childhood backyard
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: twenty years after telling police Daddy hurt mommy. It was
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. I remember it clearly, and it was Michael
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Ham and the jury convicted him and the slaying. The
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: murder was back in nineteen ninety three. He got a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: good memory. Leave by page. I mean, just read about that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And in this case, police and prosecutors say Jason Devilio
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: leads them to the dumpster, they find his wife's body.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: They go to I said late earlier it's a canal,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: but same scenario, very hard to dive in murky waterne
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: canal where he allegedly dumps the gun that she used
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: in her quote suicide. He says, his wife killed herself,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: then he disposed of her body, disposed of the weapon
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: she used to kill herself, and then took it upon himself.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: What a neat nick to clean up the residence. That
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: is what law enforcement is saying. They also going to say, quote,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of suicide. I don't remember a
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: family disposing of the body or the weapon us and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: then cleaning up the scene. You know, why is it?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, You're the shrink. Why is it that
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: men suddenly turned into neat Nick's when their wife quote
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: goes missing. Well, you know, I can't imagine what this
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: house actually look like. I mean, what he thinks is
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: leaning up a crime scene versus the reality of how
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: that house appeared or probably two different things. And as
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Wendy said earlier, you know with this police talk, sometimes
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the POI officer will make it sound like, oh, that
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the house was I can't do the police talk, but
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: you know, they minimize the reality of what the crime
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: scene looks like. In this case, I bet it wasn't
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: neat I bet there was blood spatter, as you said,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: furniture was overturned, chaos, and the idea that he cleaned
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: up was probably one more shallow sociopathic concept like breaking
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: about the crime or saying that his wife killed herself.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: It's not credible, it's shallow, it doesn't hold up. You know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: there's only one story that doesn't change, and that's the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: truthful story. And in this case, there's no truth to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: anything he said. Take a listen to eyewitness Knees bent Innis.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Forty eight year old Jason Devolio has pleaded not guilty
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: for that fellow any charge concealment of a human corpse
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: after his wife, thirty two year old care Lead Davolio,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: was found at the Nida County Landfill in Ava today
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and during his appearance, he waved his felony exam hearing,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: meaning the case heads over to the Uida County District
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Attorney's office. Jason's bail was set at ten thousand dollars
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: cash or twenty thousand dollars bard. Now what you see
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: on your screen our images of Kareley Devolio's home on
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Belmont Street in Rome, which police still had roped off
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: this morning. Mister Devolio went missing around went missing Saturday
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the twenty seventh, and just this morning, the Unida County
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office located a long gun in the barge canal
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that matched the description of a gun Rome police were
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: searching for after interviewing Jason Devoli. Right now, our prayers
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: with those three children in the family of Kireley Devolio.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: We wait as justice and false Nancy Gray's crime story
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: signing off, goodbye friend,