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E.V.Podcast Ep. 2 | Boselli Talks Offseason Program, Throwbacks & More · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Sean made my dream come true when he named me
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  Speaker 1: Executive vice President of Football Operations. That's a guy I
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  Speaker 1: want to be in the bunker with.
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  Speaker 2: You know, his passion for the Jaguars, his support that
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  Speaker 2: he shows right off the bat. You know, it's contagious.
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  Speaker 1: Tony taking over. His EVP impacts not only the coach,
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  Speaker 1: but also impacts the front office. So look, he's in
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  Speaker 1: a very important and prominent role. There's some real, real
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  Speaker 1: wisdom to support and you know, security when you're with him.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, that's all I care about.
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  Speaker 1: James Glabs though and Lamb Toue have success. Tony was
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  Speaker 1: born for this.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Welcome into this month's EV podcast. I'm here
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  Speaker 2: with Jaguars Executive vice President Football Operations, Tony Bcelli. John,
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  Speaker 2: that's quite a title, but while serious and has said,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to deraise it because you've been in the
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  Speaker 2: position two months. What have you learned about the title,
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  Speaker 2: about the position in two months that maybe he didn't
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  Speaker 2: know that maybe stands out for you.
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  Speaker 1: I guess the title is always is like I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say secondary, but I don't think about it
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  Speaker 1: in the overall role. Sure, and I think what I've
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  Speaker 1: loved about the job, and you don't know until you
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  Speaker 1: actually do it, is working with James and Liam and
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  Speaker 1: the structure that Shad has set up where the three
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  Speaker 1: of us all reported him working together in collaboration. You
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  Speaker 1: don't really know how that's going to go until you
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  Speaker 1: do it, and that has been probably my favorite part
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  Speaker 1: about the job. You know, obviously the things I figured
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  Speaker 1: i'd love, I do love coming to this place every
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  Speaker 1: day working in football, talking about the thing and focusing
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  Speaker 1: on the thing I love, the game of football, and
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  Speaker 1: trying to make this organization the best with everyone else
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  Speaker 1: in this building, and then the entire organization, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: on the football side or the business side, working together.
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  Speaker 1: That's something I was looking forward to, and I would
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  Speaker 1: say it's my expectations, if not exceeded, how much I
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  Speaker 1: enjoy doing it.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned Sead how much you talk to him on
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  Speaker 2: a continuous basis.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I mean we're in communication. I think
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  Speaker 1: the way I would kind of describe it as needed.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously big decisions we make, strategic decisions that we're thinking about,
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  Speaker 1: we definitely consult with him, talk with them before big
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  Speaker 1: meetings like the NFL league meetings, spend a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time with him when he's in town, walking him through
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  Speaker 1: what we're thinking about the draft. We did the same
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  Speaker 1: thing with free agency, and so it's not daily And
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  Speaker 1: again it's not one of those things I think and
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  Speaker 1: think about. It's like, you know, we have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a cadence of check ins that we have to hit.
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  Speaker 1: It's more of let's make sure we're communicating the big
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  Speaker 1: decisions that are going to impact this club from a
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  Speaker 1: strategic standpoint, and other that, I think his expectations for
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  Speaker 1: us to go do a good job. That's what he's
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  Speaker 1: put us in place for and and has asked us
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  Speaker 1: to lead this organization from the football side and and
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  Speaker 1: put a winning product on the field.
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  Speaker 2: And pretty much whenever he wants to talk.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he's the boss. I mean the boss. Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: it's his it's his club, it's his team, and he's
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  Speaker 1: the boss. And if he wants to talk every minute
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  Speaker 1: of every day, fine, that's just fine too. But he
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  Speaker 1: I figured this again, this is one of the things
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  Speaker 1: things you don't really know until you get into the
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  Speaker 1: into the role, into the job. Because you're My relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Shad for the last with thirteen years, sure or
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  Speaker 1: so has been one thing as working in radio, helping
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  Speaker 1: on the business side, seeing him at games, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously I'm a part of the organization, and then now
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  Speaker 1: you go into a different role, which creates a different
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  Speaker 1: relationship because now I'm reporting directly to him. He's you know,
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  Speaker 1: he I guess he was always my boss, even when
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  Speaker 1: I was doing radio, but now the you know, directly
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  Speaker 1: reporting to him, working with him, making sure we're operating
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  Speaker 1: in a way that represents this organization and the con
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  Speaker 1: family and our fans in the city all very important
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  Speaker 1: to myself, Liam and James. I think it's important to
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  Speaker 1: everyone in this building, and if it's not, it should be.
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  Speaker 1: And so he's It's been great. I've really enjoyed the
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  Speaker 1: new relationship with Seod and not new in the sense
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  Speaker 1: obviously I've known, as we just talked about for a while,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it's different because now I'm working directly
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  Speaker 1: for him, and he gave me this opportunity, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: very thankful for and I'm enjoying every second of it.
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  Speaker 2: People ask me all the time. I'm sure people ask
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  Speaker 2: everybody in this room all the time, what's it like
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  Speaker 2: now with the change. Are somebody who asked you that
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  Speaker 2: what do you like about what's going on? What makes
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  Speaker 2: you feel good about this going forward? Because we all
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  Speaker 2: feel it, but fans don't see it till it's on
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  Speaker 2: the field, right, So what do you like?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would flip the question to you, John, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because it's one thing to say what I like? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think Liam, James and I have a very clear
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  Speaker 1: vision of what we want to do and how we
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  Speaker 1: want this place to operate and what we want it
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  Speaker 1: to feel.
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  Speaker 2: Like, which might be the answer right that that's I
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  Speaker 2: mean actually.
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  Speaker 1: And what and what it's going to look like when
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  Speaker 1: we're on the grass and and how we operate in
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  Speaker 1: a day to day manner. I'd ask you what's it
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  Speaker 1: feel like? Because I think it's for me, it's I've
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  Speaker 1: changed from doing the radio and working on the business
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  Speaker 1: side now to full full time and helping lead the
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  Speaker 1: football side. You're in the same seat. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 1: been here a long time and I think it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: and I try to talk to people that have been
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  Speaker 1: here for a while and also new people. What's your experience?
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  Speaker 1: You know, what does it feel like? You know? Because
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the things you got to be
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  Speaker 1: careful of is not getting drunk on your own you know,
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  Speaker 1: your own message, your own thing, because I think it's
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  Speaker 1: healthy to get good community, to have good feedback, criticism,
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  Speaker 1: constructive criticism of understanding what the things that we're doing,
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  Speaker 1: how is it impacting the whole building, How does it
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  Speaker 1: impact the whole organization. I think sometimes you try, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as myself as a leader, trying to make sure I'm
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  Speaker 1: aware of that. But i'd ask you, what's it like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say probably the thing that defines it
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  Speaker 2: that I tell people when they ask me, probably, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for some reason, I'm locked on to James's communication. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he's pretty good well, and I think that sort of
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  Speaker 2: defines I think you are as well. Right, that's a strength.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't talked to Lim as much, but I think
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  Speaker 2: that element of everybody being clear in their goals, in
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  Speaker 2: the way they're going.
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  Speaker 1: To do it.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much more to it, but that's sort of
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  Speaker 2: the defining part, which I think is something that you
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  Speaker 2: guys well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think, yeah, I mean, I think if
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  Speaker 1: you were you know, core values is something that's thrown
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  Speaker 1: around a lot of times, but if you were to
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  Speaker 1: think about, you know, what we want to make sure
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  Speaker 1: is in this building, and that's clear, concise communication, right,
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  Speaker 1: because that's how you build relationships. That's how you build
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  Speaker 1: relationships built on trust is through you know, strong communication, direct,
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  Speaker 1: honest communication. I think you nailed it with James. He's
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  Speaker 1: world class at it. He's certainly set the bar for
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  Speaker 1: me for something to go chase. As a communicator, he's
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  Speaker 1: really good. Liam is a great communicator. I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people in our in this organization saw that
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  Speaker 1: the other day when he presented the whole culture and
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  Speaker 1: how we're going to operate. I mean, you can see
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  Speaker 1: a leader in our head coach that is has strong
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  Speaker 1: convictions and has the ability to communicate that clearly, both
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  Speaker 1: at an individual level but in a group setting to
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  Speaker 1: understand like, hey, this is how we're going to operate,
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  Speaker 1: this is our commitments, this is how you know the
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  Speaker 1: style of play we're going to have. And so I
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  Speaker 1: think one of the things that we want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure throughout the building, throughout organization, throughout our locker room,
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  Speaker 1: how we operate from coach to coach, coach to staff,
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  Speaker 1: players to coach, players to players, players staff, all the
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  Speaker 1: things vice versa is that there's open, clear lines of communication,
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  Speaker 1: because I think one thing that we all believe is
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  Speaker 1: that's how you start building really good relationships, which done
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  Speaker 1: the right way, it's gonna help us win football games.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned Liam talking to the staff, he talked to
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  Speaker 2: the players as well. I guess it was the Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: the players got in. Aside from the message about communication,
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  Speaker 2: the message that Liam gave them, what did players get
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  Speaker 2: when they walked in this building this time? What did
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  Speaker 2: they see that was different? I know it's a question
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  Speaker 2: for the players as well. Sure, but what do you
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  Speaker 2: think they saw what's gonna be different for them?
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  Speaker 1: Well, probably just you know early in that in this
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  Speaker 1: phase phase one, and a lot of new faces, some
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  Speaker 1: familiar faces and new roles. Me but I hope what
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  Speaker 1: they felt is a bunch of energy, positive energy, enthusiasm,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, walking in saying hey, this feels different,
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  Speaker 1: you know whatever that means. And again though it's early
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  Speaker 1: and well, and I think you got to get the
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  Speaker 1: first steps right, because if the first steps are off,
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  Speaker 1: you're going in the wrong direction really quickly. But you
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  Speaker 1: got to continue down that path. You got to continue
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  Speaker 1: to build and don't get comfortable, you know, let's not
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  Speaker 1: break our break our arms, patting ourselves in the back
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  Speaker 1: because how we feel things are going so far, and
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  Speaker 1: they are going well. I'm like, I'm really excited what
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  Speaker 1: we've accomplished, whether it's start from you know, obviously starting
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  Speaker 1: with hiring Liam and then getting James, and then we
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  Speaker 1: went through free agency. You know, we're building up towards
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  Speaker 1: the draft here coming up really soon. Players are back,
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  Speaker 1: we can put a staff together, you know, So we're
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  Speaker 1: really excited at what we've accomplished so far. But it's early,
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  Speaker 1: and each day's a test. Each opportunity is a test
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  Speaker 1: to see and it kind of test what you're building,
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  Speaker 1: but also how you respond to the challenge. And we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of opportunities to see if we
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  Speaker 1: can meet the standard that we're setting, both as staff members, coaches, players,
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  Speaker 1: all of us. We're all in this together. So early,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy what we've accomplished. It's exciting to have players
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  Speaker 1: back in the building, you know, because you know, each
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  Speaker 1: of these are steps in the progression of building a
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  Speaker 1: championship level organization, and we got to just continue to
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  Speaker 1: put the hard work in and make good decisions and
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  Speaker 1: learn from our mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: You liked James from the start. What do you like
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  Speaker 2: about him? Now? Maybe you didn't know a month ago.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't jump out.
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  Speaker 1: He's just a good dude. Yeah, I mean he's a
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  Speaker 1: good dude. He's obviously he's talented or what he does.
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  Speaker 1: He's a great communicator, smart as heck, good evaluator. I
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  Speaker 1: mean all those things. You know, it was pretty clear
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  Speaker 1: just from the interview process and him working here early days.
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  Speaker 2: That's a cool thing to see that you can also
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  Speaker 2: work with the guy.
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  Speaker 1: But I enjoy the like again, you don't know this
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  Speaker 1: until you go through it. So far. Now, have we
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  Speaker 1: hit huge moments of adversity, have we you know, lost
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  Speaker 1: a tough game that we felt like we should have won,
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  Speaker 1: you know whatever, the challenges that are coming, which they
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  Speaker 1: are coming, but early I enjoy coming to work every day.
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  Speaker 1: And part of that's because, yes, I love the organization,
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  Speaker 1: but I really like it, and I'm grown to love
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  Speaker 1: the guys that I'm working with. I mean, they are enjoyable.
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  Speaker 1: Like James is just a if someone said, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: describe them and you can go through all the characteristics
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  Speaker 1: and everything else. I think to sum it up, he's
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  Speaker 1: just a good dude.
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  Speaker 2: Same question for Liam, and that would be a very.
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  Speaker 1: Similar, very similar answer. They're very different and I think
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  Speaker 1: we're all different and James said it early. It's something
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  Speaker 1: that we've all kind of and I've always believed this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I would articulated exactly how I
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  Speaker 1: do now, but being the best version of yourself, not
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  Speaker 1: trying to be someone else. And I know we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about what makes head coaches great, you know, or leaders
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  Speaker 1: great in the past, and one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I've always said is great leaders are themselves. They're not
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  Speaker 1: trying to be somebody else. They're not trying to put
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  Speaker 1: on a facade, they're not trying.
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  Speaker 2: To players since fraud pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man. I mean I've said it since the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the time. Players know in about fifteen seconds whether
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  Speaker 1: you're authentic or not when you're in the of the room.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things that I enjoy again is
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  Speaker 1: I can be myself, which I think people who know
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  Speaker 1: me have pretty much done that for most of the
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  Speaker 1: time I've been around here. But you got two individuals
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  Speaker 1: that with me and James and Liam, like, hey, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna show up every day. We're gonna try to be
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  Speaker 1: the best version of ourselves. And uh and that's enjoyable.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy coming to work. I enjoy working with that
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  Speaker 1: type of those type of people.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a minute, But what do you like about
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  Speaker 2: free Agency?
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  Speaker 1: Probably the same thing I liked last time we talked,
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  Speaker 1: because we haven't seen anything yet.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well we haven't talked. I think we talked
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  Speaker 2: since free agency.
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  Speaker 1: Oh we have not. Okay, you and I talk a lot,
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  Speaker 1: so I gotta always remember what we talked about on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast and what you and I just talk. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: I think we got better and that that's the goal.
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  Speaker 1: I really like we've invested, you know, four offensive linement
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  Speaker 1: and McCarry at the guard. You know, saw him when
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  Speaker 1: he got he's back in the building coming back. He
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  Speaker 1: looks great. Hainsey at center Cuba who's played center guard.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I said to Excoose me tackling guard. And
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  Speaker 1: then big Fred Johnson was the last guy from the Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: who's just a massive human being. So I really like
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  Speaker 1: what we did up front. I'm biased.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nastier bunch up there, right.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're hoping yeah, And what we want to
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  Speaker 1: do is in all these rooms is bring competition because
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  Speaker 1: great competitors love to compete, and so let's bring it
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  Speaker 1: into the room. So we start competing right now. But
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  Speaker 1: then you look at the rest of free agency. I
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  Speaker 1: think Jordan lewis really excited about getting him in here,
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  Speaker 1: just his play style, what he was able to do
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  Speaker 1: both as a nickel and outside corner in Dallas. I
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  Speaker 1: think him and Eric Worry make us better in the
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  Speaker 1: back half. And then Diami Brown is another guy who
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  Speaker 1: can take just take the top off. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: got two guys now in BT and Diami that can
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  Speaker 1: really stretch defenses. They can run all three uh, they
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  Speaker 1: can run routes at all three level. And so and
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  Speaker 1: then we got a couple of tight ends, you know,
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  Speaker 1: round out that room. So I think, and again I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna steal this from James, because you know, as the
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  Speaker 1: gm is, as we were talking about free agencies, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna raise the floor, right like Withiams.
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  Speaker 2: Guys who sort of gets some people around here, right like,
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  Speaker 2: there's some connections absolutely matter as.
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  Speaker 1: Well they do. And and so we're just going to
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  Speaker 1: continue to improve the roster. We did it through free agency.
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  Speaker 1: The draft now is right, you know, right there getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to We have ten picks, and uh we want
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  Speaker 1: to continue to just uh make sure we're getting we're
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  Speaker 1: becoming a better and better team every day, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: the off season program and the weight room, on the
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  Speaker 1: grass and the classroom, but also as we add uh
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  Speaker 1: individuals to the organization.
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  Speaker 2: It's so hard to pre discuss the draft because it's
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  Speaker 2: all speculation and one pick changes everything. But what do
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  Speaker 2: you think you'd like to see the week after the draft?
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  Speaker 1: Really good really good players.
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  Speaker 2: Speed, in size, anything like that or is it just
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  Speaker 2: that listen attributeta Yeah, I mean the attributes are always important,
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  Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know, high weight, speed, length, all those
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  Speaker 1: type of things. But I think what I'm looking for,
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  Speaker 1: and I think what we are looking for is guys
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  Speaker 1: who love the game of football are good football players.
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  Speaker 1: You know, James talks about intangibly rich individuals. I translate
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  Speaker 1: that into my offensive line brain is just guys who
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  Speaker 1: love ball and are just tough and want can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to compete on the football field. They love the game
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  Speaker 1: and they're good football players. And so that's what we're
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  Speaker 1: looking for, and that's what we're gonna go find. So
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  Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, SO want guys
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  Speaker 1: who can help us on the grass, go compete and
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  Speaker 1: be our best and win as many games as we can.
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  Speaker 2: I keep thinking of Keenan whenever he says intangibly rich, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, great bunch of guys.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you could have fifty three Keenan McCardell's
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  Speaker 1: across the every position group, I think you'd be probably
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  Speaker 1: a dang good football team. And but a lot I'm not,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not sure. And Keenan was gonna beat
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  Speaker 1: anyone in the forty wasn't the biggest human being, so attributes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, probably was dinged in. Probably one of the
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  Speaker 1: reason he's probably got drafted really really late. Wouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: been drafted in the seventh round draft that we have
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: round pick twelve round pick. He'd been a college free agent,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: one of the best Jaguars ever to play the game.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: And because it's a guy who loved football, love to compete.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Was He's just a good football port, right, So that's
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: what that's what we're looking for.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Gotcha. One thing I want to touch base on before
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: we closed in the first two months. I think one
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: of the things we talked about the top for fans
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: has been how transparent the organization has been. And it's
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: easy to say that, it's a little harder to put
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: it into action. But the hunt obviously was fantastic and
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: different things like that. Why so important? I assume you've
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: been around it, you've been a fan a little bit
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of a team for a while, You've had a lot
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: of different roles, and you know how important it is.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: But I guess put that into your words, why does
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: that matter to you?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think it's important to communicate with
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: your with your fans and give the I mean, people
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: are curious, they love us, they love the they love
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: they love the organization, love the NFL, love the game
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: of football. So let's give them as much of a
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: behind the scene, behind the scene look as possible. Obviously,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: we can't be fully transparent. We're not gonna get up
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: here and tell people what we're doing in the draft,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: sure and uh or free agency when that comes. For
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: everything that happens in the building, there's certain things just
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: from a competitive advantage you're not gonna or you don't
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: want to have it. You don't want to have a
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: competitive disadvantage, so you're not going to share certain things.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But if we can, if we can connect with our
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: fans and give them a little bit of a taste
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: of what's going on and give them some insights so
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: they feel like they're more connected to us, that's really
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: important to me, and I think it's important to the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: whole organization. And what's exciting as we have a head
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: coach and Liam and a general manager and James who
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: get it. They understand it. They said, hey, listen, let's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: connect with our fans. Let's give them a little bit
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of a look of what we're doing. And it makes
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: it easier for us to do that because we have
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: great people in the organization. We have a great the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Jaguars have a great team that put the hunt together
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and all this information this podcast, and so when you
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: build that trust, and I think it helps that I've
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: worked with a lot of you guys for a long
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: long time, and so there's that trust that as an organization,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: everyone in it is marching in the same direction. They're
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: trying to accomplish the same thing. And so because of
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: that collaboration, because of that trust, we're able to do
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: some pretty cool things and give our fans an opportunity
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to see some of the day to day life of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: their of their coaches, of our coaches, our players, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: some of the people in the building.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if people haven't seen the Hunt, it's they
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: did a great job, top level stuff in terms of
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: access and production.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Like we should get that like on like Netflix or
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: something like a documentary. Sure, why not?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: And I get some pay raises in this room.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, let's slow down there a little bit.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Let's not get big huts.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Now they come out of a different budget.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I'm all for it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Then we're gonna go into the bow zone.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Of stuff here. I don't want to get into the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: specifics of some of it, but it's good.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Daniel from Saint John's Florida Rights. Do the Jaguars think
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: they solved the offensive line problem short term or do
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: they think that they just put duct tape on it?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think either of those are the right answer. Correct.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: You never solve like you're always you're always working to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: get better. Big believer in the saying that you're either
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: getting better or getting worse. Nobody's staying the same, right,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So we're not going to be satisfied. We're gonna look
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: for more and more good players at every position, not
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: just the offensive line, but every position group. We're always
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: looking to improve. We're always looking for guys to come
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: in here and challenge and compete, because as we do that,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you know, the whole the whole team gets better. But
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: duct tape, No, we would. We're not going to bring
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: people in here that we don't have a vision for
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and we don't think can help us win football game.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for background, I talked to you today that you
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: got these offensive linemen in here, and the excitement you
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: have is real.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I was excited about a whole free agent class. Obviously,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm always going to lean towards the little uh internal
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: biases for the offensive line, so I'm gonna get probably
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the most excited about the big guys. But I love
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: what we did. And no, this is not duct taping.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: This isn't temporary. We're not trying to just to plug
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: a hole. We're trying to get better, right, and we
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: will always. We're not going to be satisfied, so the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: building process never stops.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Now, JP from the vortex, and I don't think this
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: is your JP. I think this is a different JA
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: sure about that because he lives in the vortex.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: But where's the vortex? You know?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: The Ozone people are at the Ozoner different people.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Good enough.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I saw we can now wear our throwbacks four times
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: this year. I guess we are getting at least four
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: wins this season. I'm not sure about the guarantee, but
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I know you like the throwbacks. Any thoughts on that direction,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: because you are in charge of uniforms.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I'll just say this, I love the throwbacks. I think
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the uniforms, the jerseys whatever you want to call it,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that I wore and the teams that were here in
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the nineties, those are the best jerseys. Probably I'm biased
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to go by it, but it sounds like our fans
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: feel I have similar thoughts. So I'll just say based
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on that, you can imagine that if it's up to me,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: we'll try to wear those things as much as possible.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: You will lean in that direction. So the last one
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: is interesting to me. Michael from Orange Park, Florida writes, Zone,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: You've known seventy one a long time. You're seventy one, by.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: The way, I think you do.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: You think he knows what an need ghost system is
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and is he intangibly rich?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It sounds like, what's this guy's name?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: This is Michael from Michael.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Sounds like Michael's questioning my intelligence with if I understand
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: what an ecosystem?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I did? I graduated high school and I went to USC.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You know, some call it the Harvard of Los Angeles
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: in this seat, right, some of us, I do know
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: what an ecosystem is? And what was the second part?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Are you intangibly rich? And I would argue that you,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: even though you were a great Hall of Fame talent,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I would say you did fit James Gladstone's build intangibly
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: rich with the way you play.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And I'll set then I appreciate that. I'll say this
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: about the intangibly rich. Don't think that means somebody doesn't
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: have great attributes, right, I would say this like, these
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: are the guys guys are looking for that have there
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: are big, fast, long jump and are intangibly.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Like really talented intent.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: By the way, guys, the guys most of the guys
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame are guys are intensely rich,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: have attributes. We're just saying we value guys who love ball,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: who are competitive, that are have high football IQ high
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: football instincts that you know that are have leadership, to
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: have toughness, that are have grit to them, Like we
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: value that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: We're not saying we value that over great athletes. We're
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: looking for both. We're hunting up for both. Like you know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: because I think I have a hard time I always
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: have with you turn on the tape and you watch
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: a guy play and you get all the background and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you're just kind of like, h not sure. And then
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: somehow because they go put on a pair of shorts
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and a T shirt and go to the combine and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: run fast, jump high, you know, you know, do all
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: these things right that yes have some correlation. All of
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a sudden they're like, you know, they're a first rounder.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I just don't understand that you have three
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: four years of tape on these individuals, and after watching that,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: there was nothing that got you really juiced up. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: now because they went for a weekend to Indianapolis and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: ran fast or jumped high, now you think they're gonna
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: be a great football player when you have no evidence
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: of that. That's where I've always struggled from when I
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: was on the on the outside. So I think Ideally,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you're looking for guys who are in tangibly rich and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: great athletes like those are the guys that would be
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: fun to Let's get as many of those guys as
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: we can on the football team. But sometimes, guys we
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: talked about Keenan, My guess is Keenan wasn't. I don't
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: even if you got invited to combine, but if you did,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: probably not you know, winning the combine because whatever Keenan ran,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: it was not under four or five is my guess.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Wasn't a big human being. But you know what Keenan did.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: He played football. He could just he could just flat
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: play and uh and was a leader and it was tough,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: had grit, so like we've.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: We looked to him in big moments, show up.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: So we're what we're looking for is guys who have that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: We value that. We're not saying we devalue someone who
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: are great athletes. But let's look at the whole picture,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: because we're we're not running forties, we're not we're not
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: doing broad jumps. We're playing football. I want and we
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: want good football players, guys who love it, who want
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: to compete every day to be the best they can be.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: The best version of themselves. So like, don't mistake when
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you hear in Tanziby Rich it's like, we're just looking,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you know, for guys.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: We don't care you're now looking for forty five or weeks.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: This is all existence. We already got about two plays,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: all right, this is probably probably not where we're looking for.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Guta Tony. As always, thank you for doing the e
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: V podcast and uh we'll see you next month.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to John