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How Locals Are Defeating Data Centers(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: And so, you know, this came in fast, furious, overnight.
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  Speaker 1: And we are watching real time the rise of the people.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think they expected that.
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  Speaker 2: And you do believe that?
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  Speaker 1: Yep. I'm watching it happening everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: You are?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they're making change.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we now have— Where are you seeing this happen?
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  Speaker 2: Because I love hearing this, and it gives me hope.
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  Speaker 2: Because it feels like we're not standing a chance sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've shown up in force and it's not one state.
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  Speaker 1: It's all states. We're showing up in a completely bipartisan issue.
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  Speaker 1: There's no division here. This is right and left, red
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  Speaker 1: and blue. You're taking every resource that every single one
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  Speaker 1: of us thrives on and is essential to every one
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  Speaker 1: of us. And I don't think they were expecting that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe in one town, one community, not all towns, not
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  Speaker 1: all towns. And, you know, We are now, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: and you can look this up, we've got 14 states
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  Speaker 1: now looking at bans, moratoriums, or pauses. Blackstone, I believe
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  Speaker 1: you can look that up, just withdrew their big appellate
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  Speaker 1: court lawsuit. Because of the opposition, they said, we're out. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
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  Speaker 1: The people showed up and they're out. And now we're
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  Speaker 1: looking at over 120 municipalities that have put on, hey, pause, moratorium,
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  Speaker 1: or flat out, Get out. So most states are now
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  Speaker 1: wanting to know, whoa, wait a minute. How much water
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  Speaker 1: are you going to use? What does this entail? What
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  Speaker 1: does it mean for the safety and the future of
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  Speaker 1: our environment? So you are seeing the pauses, moratoriums for
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  Speaker 1: one and two years. And some communities like in Texas,
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  Speaker 1: they just, the local county flat out banned them. You're
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  Speaker 1: not building one in our county. So in every state,
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  Speaker 1: you've got multiple cities and counties. And they have their
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  Speaker 1: own ordinances and rules, so they can stop them. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I see. By the state may not.
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  Speaker 2: So it can be stopped at different levels.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And you're seeing many counties, like Monterey Park is
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  Speaker 1: a city within California. So think of it as your
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  Speaker 1: upper level state going down to cities, going down to
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  Speaker 1: local councils and counties. They run in, they have like
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  Speaker 1: a tier.
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  Speaker 2: Got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the local... can say, fuck you. But the
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  Speaker 1: state might not take that position.
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  Speaker 2: Right, but we also saw, I mean, from the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of this conversation, we saw that local was a spot
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  Speaker 2: where people were getting compromised a lot also. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but there's different levels where you can have pushback.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and they showed up at the local level,
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  Speaker 1: and the opposition was significant. So in Utah, in Box
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  Speaker 1: Elder County, and that's been on the news a lot,
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  Speaker 1: it was... Kevin O'Leary was coming in with a ginormous
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  Speaker 1: data center, and the people showed up in protest, big time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I saw that.
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  Speaker 1: And the three Box Elder County guys let it come
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  Speaker 1: through anyway. So the governor came back in because of
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  Speaker 1: the opposition from the people and reduced Kevin O'Leary's facility,
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  Speaker 1: and the exact numbers, don't quote me on this, but
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  Speaker 1: almost cut it in half, if not three-quarters. And because
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  Speaker 1: of the opposition, he had to do something. And then
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  Speaker 1: just recently, their House speaker, the senator— Fox? Lost. Because
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  Speaker 1: of the whole opposition to these data centers and all
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  Speaker 1: three council members no longer— out.
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  Speaker 2: So let's go.
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  Speaker 1: It's really interesting. And like Festus, Missouri, you voted them in,
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  Speaker 1: vote them out. They voted all their council out. So
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  Speaker 1: this is like, I think something politicians should really be
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  Speaker 1: looking at. The opposition is strong enough. And again, in
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  Speaker 1: my entire career, in 30 years, I've never seen something bipartisan, disunited,
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  Speaker 1: that Everybody better be paying attention to because I think people,
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  Speaker 1: you're pushing people too far at this point. You're taking
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  Speaker 1: their water. Their air is jeopardized. Their land is jeopardized.
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  Speaker 1: Their farmland is jeopardized. Their sanctuary is jeopardized. Their wildlife
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  Speaker 1: is jeopardized. The trees, the rivers, the creeks, the birds,
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  Speaker 1: all of it. It's a stake too high including their health.
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  Speaker 1: And they're just showing up. And it's enough. And I
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  Speaker 1: think Some of our leaders should look at that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they are going to vote people out. And You've put
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  Speaker 1: the squeeze on us. It's too much. You're taking all
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  Speaker 1: of the natural resources. And the next thing that people
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  Speaker 1: are reporting, their electric bills, who's paying for this? They are.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's go into some of that. What information are
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  Speaker 2: you seeing about that? And Trevor, while we discuss this,
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  Speaker 2: can you look up who voted to approve that data
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  Speaker 2: center in Louisiana? I want to know.
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  Speaker 1: You should see the council.
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  Speaker 2: Who was it?
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a local council.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, a local council. I just want to know the
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  Speaker 2: names of the people that voted yes on it.
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  Speaker 1: So we are definitely seeing local opposition winning, local municipalities, counties.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Like an example?
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  Speaker 1: Well, a big one is the Prince William Digital Gateway
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  Speaker 1: Data Center project. Huge, by the way. And that was Blackstone.
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  Speaker 1: And it was in the appellate courts. They've withdrawn. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And the project is now dead because of the opposition
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  Speaker 1: of the people. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: The Court of Appeals, it says right here, Prince William
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  Speaker 2: Digital Gateway Data Center project officially dies. The Court of
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  Speaker 2: Appeals affirmed on an August 2025 decision by William Circuit
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  Speaker 2: Court Judge Kimberly in favor of the Oak Valley Homeowners Association,
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  Speaker 2: 11 other Gainesville landowners.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: After a legal battle that lasted more than two years,
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  Speaker 2: the controversial Prince William Digital Gateway, a proposed 23 million
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  Speaker 2: square foot data center complex planned on 2,100 acres near
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  Speaker 2: Manassas National Battlefield Park is officially dead. That's incredible. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's the power of people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is the power of the people, Aaron. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's what gets you about Louisiana. It's like our state
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  Speaker 2: is all about nature. It's all about being able to
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  Speaker 2: fish out there.
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  Speaker 1: Water. Water. Water. Water.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what they're there for.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why the largest one in America, they want
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  Speaker 2: to do it there in Louisiana.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Can you pull up who voted for and against it? OK,
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  Speaker 2: we have right here. They had Eric Scermetta. This is
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  Speaker 2: for Jean-Paul J.P. Cousin out of District two year. And
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  Speaker 2: then we got Mike Francis. Yeah, Mike Francis. Foster Campbell,
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  Speaker 2: for sure. District 5. And then who? They voted for it.
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  Speaker 2: And who voted against it? Devontae Lewis. That's wild, bro.
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  Speaker 1: What I want people to do is remember, you're your
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  Speaker 1: own best critical thinker. So think fast. Feel and have
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  Speaker 1: courage to– you see my conversations with AI. I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: it that's bullshit. Fuck you. That's ridiculous. Try again. And
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  Speaker 1: it's just spitballing. It doesn't know everything. It's only going
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  Speaker 1: to be what it's either programmed or we teach it
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  Speaker 1: to be. So just keep that in mind. And you
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  Speaker 1: know what I really see going on in this country
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  Speaker 1: is we're– We're getting back to ourselves, man. Again, we're
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  Speaker 1: thinking for ourselves. We're feeling for ourselves. Get in those
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  Speaker 1: solar plexus and find some courage and show up. They are.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I wrote the book Superman's Not Coming, and
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  Speaker 1: that never scared me because I knew eventually we'd show up.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're here.
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  Speaker 2: Do you really, Erin?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do. And I said that the other
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  Speaker 1: day on one of my Facebook posts, to think the
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  Speaker 1: data centers would be what unites us. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: But I think in some ways it makes sense. You're
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  Speaker 2: waiting for something. We're all like, you always want to
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  Speaker 2: be the hero, I think. Sometimes always like we want
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  Speaker 2: to be the hero in some way, you know? Like
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  Speaker 2: of just something. It could be something small. It could
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  Speaker 2: be something big. But you want to be on the
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  Speaker 2: right side of things, you know? And maybe this is.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe there needed to be something that would come along
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  Speaker 2: that these like rulers and tech lords and these dark
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  Speaker 2: evil moneyists would come along and be like, this is
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  Speaker 2: how we're going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And we've just said enough. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: it happen. I think we all are. I'm just their
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  Speaker 1: biggest cheerleader, and this isn't about me. It's actually about
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  Speaker 1: all of us. But it's coming at us so hard,
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  Speaker 1: so swift for every reason that we've laid out today.
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  Speaker 1: The stakes are too high. When you corner someone that way,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to join forces. They're going to rise up.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to show up, and they're doing it. And
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  Speaker 1: it's about time.