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UN Women: Standards? We’ll take double! | HBR Talk 375 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three seventy five. You
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  Speaker 1: and women standards will take double and I know, I
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that counts as sexual harassment or not,
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  Speaker 1: the page. And with that, I'll brief recap here. Last
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  Speaker 1: week we looked at some of the rights that you
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  Speaker 1: and women is attributing to women, that women should have
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  Speaker 1: these rights and they're not being defended. Women's rights are
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  Speaker 1: not being defended, and so they want these white rights
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  Speaker 1: enshrined in the constitutions of all of the participating nations
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  Speaker 1: in the continent of Africa. They're doing this in Africa,
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  Speaker 1: and they are also doing this in South America, and
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  Speaker 1: we are still in Africa. So there you go. But
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to show you just a couple more things
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  Speaker 1: here because this list they have after they've gone through
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  Speaker 1: and enumerated these rights. Then they've started talking about what
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  Speaker 1: these nation states have to do in order to protect
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  Speaker 1: these rights. So they don't just want them enshrined as
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  Speaker 1: you have the right to this and you have the
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  Speaker 1: right to that. There's some of it. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: it is essentially addressing a system in Africa that is
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  Speaker 1: similar to coverture in the UK and the US back
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  Speaker 1: in the day. But this up here at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: where I had it sitting. So they want an African
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  Speaker 1: version of VAHWA basically the Violence Against Women Act or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is in the UK that does exactly the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. And what they're wanting is to prohibit all
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  Speaker 1: forms of violence, but only specifically against women. They want
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  Speaker 1: a prohibition of rape, but again only against women. They
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  Speaker 1: want prohibition or they want they want legislature that is
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  Speaker 1: similar to the mandatory arrest policies in the US. That's
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  Speaker 1: what this one is, legislative administrative social measures to ensure
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  Speaker 1: the prevention, punishment, and eradication of all forms of violence
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  Speaker 1: against women. And then they want here it says, identify
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  Speaker 1: the causes and consequences of violence against women, that is,
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  Speaker 1: to fund research like they do here in the US,
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  Speaker 1: and the way feminists do their research is very sneaky. So,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, when they wanted to research rape in the
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  Speaker 1: prevalence of rape in the United States, what they did
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  Speaker 1: was they they defined rape to exclude male victims of
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  Speaker 1: female perpetrated sexual violence. So if somebody forces either traditional
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  Speaker 1: reproductive sex or oral sex on the victim of a rape,
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  Speaker 1: the victim of a sexual assault, if they are forcing
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  Speaker 1: the victim to penetrate, then it counts as a rape.
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  Speaker 1: But if they are now, if they're forcing the victim
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  Speaker 1: forcibly penetrating the victim, then it counts as a rape.
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  Speaker 1: But if they're forcing the victim to penetrate, then it
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  Speaker 1: does not count as a rape, and the victim, the
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  Speaker 1: victim can then just sort of go fuck themselves. Essentially,
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  Speaker 1: according to the research, they'll file it under other sexual assault,
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  Speaker 1: but they won't treat it as seriously as they treat rape.
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  Speaker 1: And in the UK, under the law, you cannot label
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  Speaker 1: a female perpetrator who forces reproductive sex on a male victim,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of his age. You can't label her as a
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  Speaker 1: rapist because the law doesn't support labeling her as a rapist.
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  Speaker 1: It only supports labeling her her violation as a sexual assault,
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  Speaker 1: whereas rape can only be perpetrated using a penis, so
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  Speaker 1: unless the individual is biologically male and identifies as male,
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  Speaker 1: because they redefine penis to mean something else. If the
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  Speaker 1: person identifies as something else, name is done out of
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  Speaker 1: being recognized as a rape victim.
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  Speaker 2: Next time I come to the United States, I hope
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  Speaker 2: I can appeal to the United States government given the
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  Speaker 2: fifty one percent of the population in my country can
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  Speaker 2: just rape the shit out of me and get away
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  Speaker 2: with it. I mean, what counts as whatever does count
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  Speaker 2: as as I've forgotten what even does count as what
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  Speaker 2: allows you to apply for asylum? I mean usually it's
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  Speaker 2: something to do with how your government is is marking
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  Speaker 2: you as able to be persecuted. And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: half of the population of my country can just rape
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  Speaker 2: me with immunity. So next time I come to the
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  Speaker 2: United States, can you'll just be like, yeah, that's fine,
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  Speaker 2: you can just come here. But they won't because that
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  Speaker 2: means half of the population of the UK, and that's
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  Speaker 2: like thirty five million people can just go there and
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  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, if I stay in my country, I
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  Speaker 2: can be raped with immunity. You think that would be enough,
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  Speaker 2: but they'll just go no, no, UK, you need to
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  Speaker 2: sort out your government first. It sounds like your government
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  Speaker 2: is a bunch of miss Andric terrorists. And yeah, fair enough,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that is kind of true. We are being ruled
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  Speaker 2: by a bunch of miss Andric terrorists. And yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: would be nice, it would be really nice if we
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  Speaker 2: could reform our government. And yeah, we're working on that,
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  Speaker 2: we really are. But in the meantime, can I please
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  Speaker 2: come come to your country, Come to come to a
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  Speaker 2: place where I can at least get some kind of
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  Speaker 2: well where if I happen to get raped, I could
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  Speaker 2: be like, can I get the government to help me
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  Speaker 2: in the event that I've been raped? But I get
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  Speaker 2: the word suspicion that even the American government were like no, no, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: Like we like, we like to pretend that we will
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  Speaker 2: protect men who've been raped by women, but we don't either.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you guys in the your your government in
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  Speaker 2: the UK will officially not help you if you've been
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  Speaker 2: raped by women. And we like to pretend that our
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  Speaker 2: government will help a man who's been raped by a woman,
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  Speaker 2: but we don't need that.
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  Speaker 1: In Ohio, they're quite open about it in court here
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio has determined that the wording
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  Speaker 1: of the Ohio law does not protect male victims, and
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  Speaker 1: if the prosecutor prosecutes for rape and not sexual assault,
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  Speaker 1: the case will be overturned. And that was in the
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  Speaker 1: case of we did a show on it. Actually, that
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  Speaker 1: was in the case of a woman who had who
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  Speaker 1: had raped her own two year old son, and she
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  Speaker 1: got her Her case got overturned after she was convicted
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  Speaker 1: because she did she did do what she was accused of,
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  Speaker 1: but because the attorney, the city attorney or state attorney
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  Speaker 1: they had the prosecutor, had prosecuted her for rape and
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  Speaker 1: not for sexual assault, her case was overturned and she
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  Speaker 1: was free.
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  Speaker 2: Much like this thing we call the Duluth model. As
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  Speaker 2: long asin it's been outdated that we call it the
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  Speaker 2: Duluth model because it's long since been expanded to the
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  Speaker 2: entire USA and indeed long since suspended to the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the anglosphere, including the UK. Much like the out
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  Speaker 2: lawing of cannabis it was it was outlawed in the
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  Speaker 2: USA and then the UK, being a vassal state of
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  Speaker 2: the USA ever since the War, that that law was
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  Speaker 2: just expanded to the UK, and now ironically there's many
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  Speaker 2: states in the in the US where they've pulled it
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  Speaker 2: back and now they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's fine
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  Speaker 2: if you smoke cannabis. But now in to this day
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  Speaker 2: in the UK, no, no, you can't smoke cannabis. We're like,
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  Speaker 2: why because America told us to outlaw it. Well, and
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  Speaker 2: we're like, well, in many states in the US have
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  Speaker 2: since anti outlawed it and now it's fine there, so
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  Speaker 2: can we pull that back? No? No, no, we've we
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  Speaker 2: with the USA gave us an excuse to clamp down
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  Speaker 2: on you and your chemical freedoms. So books to you,
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  Speaker 2: we don't we don't care if if if the USA
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  Speaker 2: is finally giving their citizens freedom, we we're going to
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  Speaker 2: follow on it on the USA's clampdowns against your freedom,
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  Speaker 2: but we're not going to follow on on on the pullback.
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  Speaker 1: So what what actually happened is that it wasn't legalized.
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  Speaker 1: It was decriminalized because we lock up everybody we lock
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  Speaker 1: up to Our prisons are full of people, right, you
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  Speaker 1: guys don't lock up any Our prisons are full of men.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be h, let's play clear on that, because like
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  Speaker 1: five percent of inmates are women, even though five percent
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  Speaker 1: of more than five percent of convicts or women women
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  Speaker 1: are more likely to get alternative sentences than men. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and but over in the UK, you guys don't lock
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  Speaker 1: up anybody, not even your rapists. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: You freedom rape a twelve year old girl if you
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  Speaker 1: want to. But no smoking the devil's lettuce, that's makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: And no speaking out against the foreign rapists or anything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's so annoying how many British people like
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  Speaker 2: to blame America for everything, but they never blame America
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  Speaker 2: for the anti cannabis laws, and they and and and
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  Speaker 2: they never blame America for any of the things that
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  Speaker 2: might that might help us blame foreigners for anything. And
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  Speaker 2: it's what it's the problem with the British government is they,
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  Speaker 2: even though they hate Americans and they hate the American government,
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  Speaker 2: in the event that they ever put America first, they
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  Speaker 2: will absorb and American law that clamps down on the
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  Speaker 2: British people. But they won't absorb any American law that
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  Speaker 2: heightens the rights of the British people.
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  Speaker 1: That is the nature of government in general, actually elected
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  Speaker 1: monarchy or whatever any law that allows them more control
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  Speaker 1: over you, but the less responsibility for your welfare. They'll
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  Speaker 1: adopt it.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much more leeway in the USA, Like if
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  Speaker 2: you get a Trump, then that Trump will put America first,
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  Speaker 2: and much to the chagrin of the Democrats and the
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  Speaker 2: anti America First people, you can at least push it
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  Speaker 2: forward and backwards, like you'll get a Trump and then
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  Speaker 2: you'll get a Biden, and then you'll get a Trump,
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  Speaker 2: and it will go forwards and backwards. But in Britain
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't fucking matter, Like there are our government like
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  Speaker 2: we will adopt any anti British policy and and then
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  Speaker 2: they'll push back on any pro British policy, and then
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  Speaker 2: they'll adopt any anti British policy. And it's largely because
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  Speaker 2: we're European. And that's just because we're leading the way.
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  Speaker 2: As much as you think the the archophobic policies are
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  Speaker 2: leading the way in America. Now we we we the
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  Speaker 2: it always led the way in in in Europe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and this this is what I mean with with with
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  Speaker 2: the with the feminist policies and the anti drug policies
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  Speaker 2: and any other policies like the UK government will will
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  Speaker 2: clamp down on any policy the fos over the British
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  Speaker 2: people and any policy that heightens the rights of any
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  Speaker 2: non British people. And yeah, this is me asking America,
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  Speaker 2: can you can you please lead the way in in
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  Speaker 2: any policy that that that that can influence British politicians
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  Speaker 2: to maybe stop dare I say, oppressing the British people
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  Speaker 2: because the idea of putting Britain first is it is
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  Speaker 2: not a policy that is even in the periphery of
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  Speaker 2: any British political party. And yeah, I know our media
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  Speaker 2: likes to present the idea that reform is the is
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  Speaker 2: the British equivalent of the Trump, but no, we don't
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  Speaker 2: have anything like the British equivalent of Trump. And I
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  Speaker 2: just want to push it forward that one day we
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  Speaker 2: could have the British equivalent. No it's not Nigel Farage. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's not reform, it's not even anything approaching that. And
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  Speaker 2: it's because our media won't allow it to happen, because
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  Speaker 2: our media is died in the wool leftist bullshit. And
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  Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just I would like it if
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  Speaker 2: we could have our Trump any day now. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to happen for another ten years or so.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not not even though it's not even as
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  Speaker 2: though Trump is legalizing weed, ironically, it's it's the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: who are legalizing weed. So yeah, we.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's them cleaning up their own mess because it
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  Speaker 1: was the Demo crats that outlawed it in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: So indeed, yeah, I mean, well it's this is a
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  Speaker 1: problem with government everywhere, and it's governments are like homeowners associations, right,
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  Speaker 1: if you if you have good people running it, then
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  Speaker 1: they do what they're supposed to do. They don't overregulate,
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  Speaker 1: and they do like keep the the upkeep done that
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  Speaker 1: they're supposed to be upkeeping. But if you have people
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  Speaker 1: like Nancy Pelosi and her ilk that are just using
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  Speaker 1: the government as a as a means of making money
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  Speaker 1: through investment and insider trading, then you you end up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with this mess that we've got Trump cleaning
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  Speaker 1: up now. And if you have people who are just
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  Speaker 1: controlling assholes with with boards up there by, So you
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  Speaker 1: get the UK government, you know, you get the Canadian government,
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  Speaker 1: you get most of the nations in Europe have the
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  Speaker 1: the type of government that is like that ho a
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  Speaker 1: board that wants to regulate everything from uh you know
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  Speaker 1: what shade of brown or tan your house has to
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  Speaker 1: be painted, to which which make and model of car
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  Speaker 1: you're allowed to own and have parked in your in
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  Speaker 1: your garage, whether or not you can smoke in your
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  Speaker 1: own home, and things like that in a non condo
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  Speaker 1: setting where the smoke isn't going into your neighbor's unit.
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  Speaker 1: But and that's that's essentially what Europe has become is
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of their governments are like a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: old Karen's old ladies, just bitching about everything because they
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  Speaker 1: don't really have They used to be every nation in
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  Speaker 1: Europe was at war with each other, and so so
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  Speaker 1: they had of my nation first attitude because their nation
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  Speaker 1: would be eliminated if they didn't. And you know now
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  Speaker 1: they don't have that going on in there. They're doing
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  Speaker 1: essentially what what hoas do when they don't have anything
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  Speaker 1: better to do, and they have an inflated sense of
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  Speaker 1: self importance. And so that's that's basically my assessment of
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  Speaker 1: the world government. But in the meantime, we do have
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  Speaker 1: a couple of uh, super chats, super chows. I will
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  Speaker 1: read these off. Meredith g gave us five dollars and said
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  Speaker 1: HBr Talk three seventy five. Honey for the Badgers, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for the thought provoking discussion and great endorse, said, gave
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  Speaker 1: us five dollars and said this week it came across
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  Speaker 1: this blog spot, gave us a link, and it made
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  Speaker 1: me wonder if hann I ever heard of TV newsman
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  Speaker 1: Chet Huntley in the New Year's resolutions he made to
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  Speaker 1: himself regarding journalists and journalistic integrity back in nineteen fifty
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  Speaker 1: five because he was getting worried about the state of
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  Speaker 1: his profession back in those days. Yeah, I have heard
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  Speaker 1: of that. It was something that was talked about in
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  Speaker 1: my newspaper class when I was in high school actually,
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  Speaker 1: and we went over a bunch of different things and
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  Speaker 1: how how journalism changed over the years. We looked at
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  Speaker 1: things like were Woodward and Bernstein really great investigative journalists
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  Speaker 1: or did they just hate the administration at the time
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  Speaker 1: and were they just salivating over a story that was
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  Speaker 1: a scandal for that administration. And I kind of in
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  Speaker 1: the long term, I kind of developed a theory on that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that my teacher was onto something there that
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  Speaker 1: they actually did just hate the administration, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that was a there was a thing in journalism already
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  Speaker 1: in the fifties. So by the time that you know,
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  Speaker 1: you had the sixties and the seventies and all that,
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  Speaker 1: all the scandals that came out after it was journalists
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  Speaker 1: had had bone to pick with whichever administration was in charge.
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  Speaker 1: There were either right wing or left wing journalists, not
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  Speaker 1: journalists that just wanted to tell you what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: And so every administration after after Watergate had its set
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  Speaker 1: of scandals, like I don't think we've had a single
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  Speaker 1: one where journalists weren't looking for some way to scandalize
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  Speaker 1: the public. And Watergate was the thing that Woodward and
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  Speaker 1: Bernstein really screwed up was they focused on the part
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  Speaker 1: of the scandal that was that would get people's attention,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't dig deep enough. And had they dug
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  Speaker 1: deep enough, they would have found a much bigger scandal
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  Speaker 1: that was was really worth looking for. And so they
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  Speaker 1: missed that because you know, they got the public all
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  Speaker 1: titillated over what they did report. And that's it's one
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  Speaker 1: of the drawbacks of I guess yellow journalism, and in
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  Speaker 1: particular yellow journalism that targets people specifically Russia Gate.
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  Speaker 2: Russia Gate was far worse than Watergate. I I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much of our audience is even aware of
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  Speaker 2: what Russia Gate really entailed, but most of you should
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  Speaker 2: bear away what agate, which is the gate that named
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  Speaker 2: all the other gates, that put the suffix gate over everything.
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  Speaker 2: And it was presented that Richard Nixon was paranoid about
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  Speaker 2: the possibility of anyone usurping his presidency through democratic means
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  Speaker 2: or whatnot. But but then, but then the possibility that
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  Speaker 2: Trump would usurp. I forget who the Democratic nominee after
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  Speaker 2: Obama was, What the fuck was it? Who the fuck
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  Speaker 2: was it? Can anyone remember who who Trump was? I
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  Speaker 2: was Hillary?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, after Obama? That was Hillary?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was it was Hilary and and yeah it
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  Speaker 2: was between Obama's paranoia and Hillary, Hillary's parent And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this whole Russia Gate scenario that this, this whole fucking
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't just paranoia. It was this well what do
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  Speaker 2: you even call it? Is this? It was the conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to call anything a conspiracy theory,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it was this idea that that if Trump he gets elected,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: it's because of Russia and Putin and it doesn't matter
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: what peutin or Russia says, it doesn't matter what anyone says. No, Look, look,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: we've we've we've employed some people. We've that is to say,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: we've paid some people to lie about Trump's campaign. And
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: this this was all leagues and I mean nautical leagues,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: worse than anything that Richard Nixon did. But people are
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: just talking about anything else but that. And this was
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the thing that that made all conspiracies called gates ever
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: since then because it was apparently so significant. But yeah,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: this is fucking Russiagate. Thing was multiple times worse than
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: any of that. And yeah, we're just we're just we're
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: just leaving aside. Meanwhile, Obama is still like turning up
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and giving interviews going like, oh, it's so bad that
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Trump is calling in the military into Chicago and Washington, DC.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: He can't be doing that sort of thing. That's that's
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: just simply unbearable. And it's and it's an attack against democracy, motherfucker.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: You've do you fill the sentence in by yourself, like
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: this guy was the worst attack on democracy in the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: entire history of American democracy. And it's yeah, the whole
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: thing is fucked. Like Obama should be in prison. Hillary
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: should be in prison, Biden should be in prison, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: fucking Bill Clinton, all of these people should be in prison,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: and get they're still out here, free as a bird,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: telling everyone that Trump should be in prison, even though
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: they fucking tried their college best to put him in
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: prison for the worst thing they could even find. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the worst thing they can even find is mortgage fraud,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: which they, you know, they couldn't even figure out because
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: he didn't really commit it, whereas Letitia James did, And
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: that's another whole story. Fuck me, It's like we're dealing
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of criminals trying to accuse their innocent
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: opponents of being a bunch of criminals. And I don't
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: even there's so much, Like I don't even know how
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: to get through the spaghetti because there's so much spaghetti.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: It's a ball of spaghetti the size of the sun.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: We're dealing with that in the meantime, is trying to
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: accuse their opponents of one single strand of Singapore noodles.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Singapore noodles are the really skinny, bright yellow ones that
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: can't even you know what I'm saying, It's yeah, it's
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: fucking career criminals. Trying to rule the country while they
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: try to accuse their opponents of being criminals despite having
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: committed the thinnest thread of a crime, and they can't
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: even do that. They tried their best to to convict
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Trump of a crime, and the best they could do
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: was something that the sister James, I'm an order of
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: magnitude more guilty of doing. And God forbid they ever
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: commit they ever tried to convict Trump of doing what
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Obama did, or indeed what either of the Clintons did.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just how do we find ourselves in
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: this timeline where career criminals who went into the presidency
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: with five million in the bank and left the presidency
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: with two hundred and fifty million in the bank. I'm
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: specifically talking about Bill Clinton there, But for fox sake,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: how I mean, by what metric do we measure opportunistic
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: career criminals other than what Democrat presidents have done versus
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: what not even Republican presidents, but what Trump has done.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton went into office with fifteen million in the bank,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: and he left office with two hundred and fifty million
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: in the bank. God only knows what would have happened
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: if Hillary Clinton entered the office with two hundred and
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: fifty million in the bank. She would have left with
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: a billion in the bank. And you know, he fuck
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: knows what it was with Obama, But it's the same
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: with almost every president in living memory. Trump is the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: only president that went into office with billions in the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: bank and then left with I mean close to a
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: billion left. Yeah, it's shorter in the bank, largely because
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: of having not accepted a wage like its what this
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: is largely the problem with with not just American democracy,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: but with democracy in general, that what you really want
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: is for someone to go in in into ruling, ruling
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the country with a certain amount in the bank, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: then leaving with less in the bank because they pay
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: more than they take out of the system. Because if
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you have a system that incentivizes people two to make
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: money as a result of of of being an office,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: then you're only incentivizing people two. It's this analogy that
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: that Dankular used once. It's this, It's like being on
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: a game show where you where you go into this
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: this perspects uh tank where where where where a bunch
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: of banknotes get thrown around you in this wind chamber
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and you have to grab as many banknotes as you
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: can in in in the in the four minutes you
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: have and and and that's that's a democracy in a nutshell.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Any any politician that gets elected it gets given four
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: years to grab as much money as they can, uh
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and and then walk away with it. And that's and
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: that's why it never works. And that's why I know
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: this is going to piss off a lot of Americans.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: This is why monarchy is better than than than democracy,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: because monarchs aren't interested in going into a person back
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: chamber where they can grab as much money as they
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: can because they already have money.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Your leaders, well that's not entirely true either, because monarchy
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: sort of has to stem from someplace. It's kind of
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: like saying, ship with corn and it is better than
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: ship with nuts in it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: It's still ship indeed. But it helps if your leader
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: is already rich and they cannot be corrupted by the
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: prospect of becoming more rich. This is this is what
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: this is what gave you the Clintons. This is.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: The only way for humans to have a system of
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: government and have it not end up like this. Is
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: exactly the same thing that has to be done with h. O. A. S.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: And that is it can't be a one way street.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: It can't be the people sit back and are governed
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and don't participate in the process. Where they're anticipation would
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: include vigilance toward the government, holding the government the individuals
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: involved in the government accountable, and being prepared to step
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: up and take over as as needed if the government
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: officials are not doing what they're supposed to be doing.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: In in HOA systems, where and usually you have if
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: you have a homeowners association, the people that are involved
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: in it usually live in the neighborhood. Once in a
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: while you have a homeowners association, that is, none of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: them live in the in the neighborhood. They own property there,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: but they're not residents, and uh, they're they're awful usually.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: But if you have an association where the people are
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: residents of the neighborhood, the people that that that are
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: part of the association, then the the other people in
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood see who is making the rules and who
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: is enforcing the rules, and how they're behaving and everything.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And it is vital for these neighborhoods that if somebody
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: is in that position they're on the board or they're
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: president of the board or whatever. That if somebody is
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: being an absolute shit, that you just you run against them,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and you campaign based on what an absolute shit they've
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: been and how you're going to do a better job
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: than they're doing. And usually your neighbors will be so
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: fed up with this absolute shit who has been enforcing
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: rules that don't exist, or enforcing rules in strange ways
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and things like that that you know, the rule doesn't
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: say what they're saying or whatever. That the people are
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: fed up with, they'll vote that person out of office
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and in comes somebody who will actually do the job.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: But if you have people that expect to sit back
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and not participate and uh not be vigilant, not keep
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: track of what their officials that they're voting for are doing,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and not hold them accountable, not actually you know, be
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: prepared to run for office if they have to, or
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to support a neighbor who's running for office against somebody
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: who's doing a bad job. Not not have any inclination
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: towards seeing people prosecuted if they break the law, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: so on. In office, you get you know, what what
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: we've had in the United States, what Canada has had,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: what the UK has had what every nation has when
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: they get a corrupt government and people just sit back
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and sit back and let things happen until it starts
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: to affect them enough to get upset about it, and
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: by the time they bellow about it, it's too late.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: They haven't they've expected this one way street to you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: lead only good things to their doorstep for so long,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and now it's it's too late for them to change
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the way that it works, at least not without pain,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: which is what we're doing now where we're dealing with
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the pain of changing the way things work. But back
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to the journalistic element of that, and what we've got
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: in every nation pretty much is it's not just our
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: governing bodies that are the problem. At this point. Part
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: of citizen vigilance and part of citizen involvement in the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: process is the journalistic aspect. What the what the sp
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: chow brought up chat Chut Huntley and his New Year's
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: resolutions to himself the reason it's vital and important that
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: journalism actually be journalism and not just say, a mouthpiece
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: for a set of beliefs or you know, a way
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to clickbait everybody for money and things like that. That
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it actually covers things that are of interest to people,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that that gives them information that they can use to
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: make decisions. It's because not everybody can see what's going
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: on firsthand, and in DC, you know, not everybody can
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: see what's going on firsthand if you're in Ohio and
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: California is doing something shady, you know. And and because
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: we are in a large nation and not everybody can attend,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you know, every government activity. You've got your city council meetings,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: You've got your county commission meetings, You've got your Civil
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: service meetings, You've got your state legislature meetings and and
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: so on. You've got school board meetings at the city
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and state level. Like all of that is stuff that
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you know, we've let it get so big and so blobby,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like the blob from the movie The Blob, that we
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: we can't keep track of it by ourselves anymore, and
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: without actual journalism where somebody is reporting on who, what, where,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: when and how, what did they do? Who did it
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and how did they do it, When did it happen,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: where did they meet? Who's affected? You know, who's what,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: what's the outcome of this? What's the upshot? So you
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing. If you don't have that, then
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: then you don't have the ability for the entire nation
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to participate in a national government or the entire state
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to participate in a state government. And uh where Woodward
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and Bernstein come in in regard to that, I don't
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many people realize this, but the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Watergate burglary, everybody always is told the Watergate burglary was
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: about getting getting materials, getting dirt on the Democrats, or
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you know, finding out what they're going to do, so
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the Republicans decide, can decide what they're going to do
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and so on. It wasn't that simple before Nixon was
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: who was president. When he was still running, he interfered
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: in peace talks around Vietnam, interfered in the peace talks
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: with North Vietnam during Lyndon B. Johnson's presidency, so that
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: it would look like only he could in the war.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: And what he was looking for was what what the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: burglars were looking for. There was a letter that had
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: some evidence of that interference, and that's what he was
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: looking for. Uh In in the in the burglary, to
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: see if if Johnson had that letter or if the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Democrat Party had that letter and try to try to
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: get rid of it so that it couldn't be used
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: against him. So it wasn't just campaign materials, it was
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: this scandal could could destroy his his chances of being elected,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and that you know, and if I remember right from
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the like, there were several articles that I read about this.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But if I remember, what he was afraid of was
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: actual prosecution because he did that before his election, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: so of course that would be in violation. I can't
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: think of this stupid act. It's they accused Trump of
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: violating this act where his once once the election was
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: over and he was president, and uh, you know, Obama's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: administration was on the way out. His administration started making contact.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: We are going to be here's how you're going to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: get a hold of us, here's you know what we're
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: going to want to work on once we get into office.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: But with Nixon, this was prior to all of that.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: It was prior to being elected, prior to having the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: authority to do that. So it actually was a violation,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: whereas Trump's administration did not actually violate that law. The
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: law that prevents them from interfering essentially in the dealings
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: of the previous administration. So definitely, yeah, the Logan Act,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: That's what it was, Thanks Meredith g. So essentially Woodward
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and Bernstein got the big story, but they missed the
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: bigger story. And it was because they were all excited
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: that they got the big story. And if they had
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: gotten the bigger story, things might have been significantly different.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Nixon probably would have been prosecuted by the time the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: bigger story came out. It would have been kind. It's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: not that it was a moot point. It's that it
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: was no longer no longer and enough of an issue
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: to care about. But they still could have prosecuted him.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: But in any case, all that aside, once again we
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: are looking at an organization is trying to create an
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: even bigger governing body that's harder to keep track of
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: and pulling the same shit. And as I said, this,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: this idea of creating creating a funding for research that
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: is manufactured essentially, like we were talking about at the beginning,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: how feminists use things like defining rape to exclude male victims,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: so that when they get statistics on rape and they
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: see that you know, in the past twelve months, the
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: same number just about the same number of men women
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: have reported being raped, and you know they don't They
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: don't have to admit that more than more than a
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: few rapists or women. They like to say that ninety
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: five to ninety nine percent of rapists are men. But
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: if you exclude rape to or if you just define
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: rape to exclude female perpetration, then of course most rapists
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: are going to be men. When you acknowledge female perpetration,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: it is much closer to about fifty to fifty in
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: terms of perpetration. And of course, the other aspect of
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that is you're looking at what percentage of a population,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: a demographic that is like less than one tenth of
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: one percent of the general population are each sex, and
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: feminists will make claims about what men are like based on, well,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you know, nine of this tiny percentage of the population
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: are men, and they'll ignore the fact that ninety nine
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: point nine percent of the male population doesn't fall into
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the category of violent criminal.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: So in any case, ye, for as bad as monarchy
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: is and for as bad as republicanism is, and we
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: can argue about that, none of it's as bad as
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: what the fuck you and women is doing.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you and women isn't even in a like nobody
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: voted for them, right nobody. They just sort of got
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: together and made themselves relevant to the United Nations. They're
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: not even really a UN organization, but the UN listens
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: to them. So be like if we got together and
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: decided to call ourselves you and badgers, and then the
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: UN had to listen to us for some reason. But
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: they're they're going through UH and and in addition, so
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: what I'm establishing here is that this is them trying
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: to enact throughout all of Africa, every country that they
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: have a connection to, they want to they want to
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: establish in those nations legislation modeled after the Violence Against
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Women Act, So the Violence Against Women Act has those
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: mandatory arrest policies, mandatory prosecution, mandatory sentencing. That's that's in
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the one thing I read UH. They they have the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: funding for research to establish essentially that that the patriarchy
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: theory of domestic violence, which everybody calls a deluthe model
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: UH is UH is act even though it's not, and
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: that all elements of the law will examine and act
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: through that filter. And they want to they want to
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: create a curriculum in the local school systems and the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: education systems that exist in these countries that will promote
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: that idea. And that's here They're actually wanting to eradicate
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: elements in traditional and cultural beliefs in these nations that
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: they content can consider to be stereotypes that legitimize or
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: exacerbate violence, tolerance of violence against women. So, for instance,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: if men are allowed to hit back right now in
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: any nation of Africa, if the response to a woman
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: hitting her partner is that he can defend himself, they
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: want that changed. But they don't want to change like
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: if men are obligated to finance the lifestyle choices of
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the women in their lives, they don't. They don't want
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that changed, and they want perpetrator programs like the ones
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: in the United States, the UK, Canada. They want to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: extend this to trafficking of women. My understanding is that
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: most Africans who are trafficked as kidnapped, victims of human
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: trafficking are male, not female, although I guess Africa does
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: have a sex trafficking problem, and that's both sexist, but
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I think most of the labor trafficking is male. But
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: they want to address trafficking of women. They want to
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: prohibit all medical and scientific experiments on women without their conformed,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: informed consent. So I look at I look at that
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: one and go back to the Sub Saharan African studies
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: on circumcision. Uh, those men were given a sales pitch.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: They didn't get the other side of the story. They
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: were told what to do, and then they were paid
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: to participate in the study. They didn't have like they
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: The people who did the study would probably call it
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: informed consent, but I don't think that that's very informed.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: They want to ensure that this is funded, so adequate
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: budgetary and other resources. So they're funding for this, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: notice all of this is specific to women. They don't
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: have in this. We want to end intimate partner and
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: family violence because intimate partner and family violence happens to
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: both sexes. It doesn't just happen to the intimate partner.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Family violence can include elder abuse, child abuse, abuse between
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: siblings living in the same home, abuse between other members
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: of extended family living in the same home. And if
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: they start in on that, then you discover that a
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: lot of women abuse elderly in laws, a lot of
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: women abuse their children, and a lot of abuse is
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: perpetrated by female family members. Right. And finally they mentioned
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: men ensure that women and men in your joy equal
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: rights in terms of access to refugee status and determination procedures,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: and that women refugees are accorded the full protection and
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: benefits but not men guaranteed under international refugee law, including
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: their own identity and other documents. So they mentioned when
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: men like once briefly, but all of this rolled together
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: is essentially they want VAWA Violence Against Women Act copy
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: pasted into every nation in Africa. What VAWA has done
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: in the United States is significantly increase the rate of
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: divorce here, and it has significantly increased the rate of
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: the use of vexatious litigation as a tool in divorce
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: as a weapon in divorce. So you get your wife
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: files for divorce. You have kids, you have you own
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: a home, and maybe you have money in the bank,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: and she wants the property, and she wants custody of
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the kids, and she wants child support from you, and
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: she wants some of that money in the bank. She
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: accuses you of abuse so that you know she can
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: use the the provisions in the Violence Against Women Act
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: and whatever state law exists in your state on top
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: of that, to ensure that she is protected from her
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: alleged abuser kicks you out of the house, and then
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: you are stuck fighting a court battle that could go
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: on for years if you want to try to get
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: any of that back and not have to make payments
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: to her for the next several years to decades, depending
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: on what laws are being enforced. And you know, she
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: chooses to never marry again, you could be paying. You'd
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: be paying for the rest of your life in that situation.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: So a lot of men do try to fight it,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: but a lot of them end up in a situation
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: where they cannot finance that fight or where the law
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't allow them to defend themselves effectively, and they lose everything.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And it's not just half. In that instance, she becomes
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the homeowner, but if there's a mortgage, he still has
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: to pay it. She gets custody of the children, but
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: he still has to support them, and she doesn't necessarily
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: have to let him see them. And if she's really
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: rabid about this fight, you know, she may end up
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: putting a criminal record on him for things that he
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: didn't do.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Andy the this, by the way, is why so many
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: of these quote unquote refugees, and I and I draw
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: the biggest hand quote unquote refugees the reason that so
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: many of them are quote unquote fighting age men, because
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: it's long since been decided that any women from these
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: third world countries are allowed to come to these first
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: world countries, because I mean, it's science to reason that
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: women must be victims. So if any woman wants to
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: come from these African or Middle Eastern countries, they should
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: be allowed to come here. But in general, they don't
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: want to because women are not being persecuted in these
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: third world African or Middle Eastern countries. It's it's very
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: much the men who face assassination by by one group
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: or another. It's very much the men who are who
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: are being persecuted by these countries and their governments. And
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: that's why it's and that's why it largely because in
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Muslim countries, men of a certain financial advantage can have
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: four wives right or more. They have as many wives
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: as they want, and that necessarily leaves a great deal
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: of men who have no option because they can't find wives.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Because so many men can have four wives each, and
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: that leaves seventy five percent of the men who can't
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: find any wives or whatsoever, and they are being persecuted
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: by their government, and so they come over here largely
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: because as as it's just illustrated by what has just
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: outlined by by the way women ship the term that
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: men should be offered the same refugee status as as women,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: even though women should have never been off at it
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: in the first place. But if men are given this status,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: then yeah, seventy five percent of the men of this
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: country should should be should be given the same the
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: same opportunities. And so they go, well, hell, yes, you're
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: saying I can go to Britain and be given free
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: ship forever. Well, hell yes, I'm going to And that's
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: and and that's how we got ourselves in this in
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: this situation. And meanwhile, the people in Britain and across
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: the rest of Europe are going, well, well, well, look,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: these foreigners are all men, and so we should hate
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: them because they're all men. And I'm like, bro, bro,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: you're completely missing the fucking point. Yep, it's it's it's
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: it's miss inry that sent these people to our country,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: and now you are greeting them with missonry.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the guy with the four wives is learning why
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: King Solomon, who had five hundred wives, famously wrote over
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and over again in the Book of Proverbs about how
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: awful it is to live under the same roof as
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: a quarrelsome woman, because you know, once you get this
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: is I never really realized how bad that would be
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: until there was There's a movie I watched on a flight,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I want to say, clear back in like nineteen ninety four,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: about four wives in a home in China, and in
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: that particular way of marriage, the first one has authority
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: over the underling wives, and like each wife after the
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: first one has authority over the next wives after her,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: and so on. So there's a built in pecking order.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: And as a result, these women are simultaneously like on
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: their face, you know, they're they're nice to each other,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: like they they're a team of wives that are taking
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: care of this husband, right, but on under the surface,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: they're just absolutely evil to each other, just horrible, and uh,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: there's a there's a whole set of like they learn
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: to respect each other, but at the same time, they
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: learn to respect each other in the way that attack
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: dogs learn to respect each other. And I cannot, for
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: the life of me remember the name of the movie,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: but it was. I mean, we're talking a long time
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: ago there, right in nineteen ninety four is a while ago.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: But it really struck me that if I was a man,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I would not want to be married to more than
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: one women woman. If women were going to behave like
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that that they can't engage in teamwork and family love,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: then then they don't need to be under the same
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: roof really, you know, so if a guy maybe kept
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: four wives in four different homes, in four different locations
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: where they didn't have to interact with each other, maybe
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: that might not be so bad. But I don't know.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine what it must have been
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: actually like for King Solomon.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: What's the name The Only fans Bonny Blue was found
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: to say, yeah, my situation is the final product of feminism,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and and a lot of the traditionalists the woe.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: That had sex with like a thousand guys or something.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of the people on our side are saying, yeah, no,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: she's She's right, These only fanshores are the final product
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: of feminism, and I'm like, no, bro, Islam is the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: final product of feminism. I realized it's going to have
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of people going, what what are you talking about? No,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: this is this is some grade eight but ship but yeah, no,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: this is this is This is where it goes because
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: feminism and Islam are both extreme measures of how we
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: protect women. Eventually it comes down to, no, the rich
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: and powerful men should should control as many of the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: women as possible so that they can protect them. I mean,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: why do you think they they dress them in fucking
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: black bags so they can protect them. And yes, I know,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I know that this seems like an extreme measure that
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: that inflicts on their human rights, but they're doing it
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: to protect them. It's it's it's just it's it's different
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: measures between the West and the East of ways of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: protecting women. And yeah, to us, it seems like like
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: like Muslims are going too far to protect them so
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: much that that they're oppressing them. But the Muslims are
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: looking at us and how how we allow women to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: dress themselves as whores and they're like, no, you're going
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: so so far to protect them that that you oppress them.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: And and on both cases they have a point like
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: you you go so mental in trying to protect women
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: that they're actually leaving them open to destruction, and yes,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: yes that is the case. Are you you can be
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: so preoccupied with protecting women that that that you actually
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: dare I say, oppress them? And I don't like using
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: that word because it's so often hideously misused, and I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: don't I don't necessarily think it's applicable in either case,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: because when two nations are at war, they tend to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: oppress each other. But the oppression never manifests as protecting
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: them too much. And you know, what you can say
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: about Islam is they protect their women too much. And
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: what they say about us is we protect our women
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: too much much. And yeah, that's in both cases. There's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: a point going on. You can protect women so much
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: that it looks like you're oppressing them, but it's not oppression.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Oppression is what happens when two nations are at war.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. They put them in camps
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: and they fucking gas them and kill them. That's oppression.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: What men do to women is not oppression, not in Islam,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: not in the West. What we do to women is
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: protect them too much. I know it looks like oppression,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: but it's not. It's protecting them too much. It's a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: very different thing. It's not oppression, it's the opposite, you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Sort of like calling, like calling Munchausen's by proxy being
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: overprotective in a way. At the top, if you go
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: to my x dot com page from my account, you'll
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: see that most people you know usually have some sort
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: of picture up there. I just have a black screen
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: with the white text on it that says, stop paying
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: women to make stupid choices. And that's that's the protection
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: that women have today in the West, is that men
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: take all the consequences when when women make stupid choices,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: so or or their children take the consequences. So woman
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: decides that she's going to ignore, ignore the fact that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: criminals exist, and she doesn't do what men have to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: do to protect themselves from from being the subject of
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: criminal violence. And somebody comes running up behind her and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: slams into her and steals her purse and goes running
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: off with it. Suddenly we're looking at violence against women.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: And even though this is just somebody that was trying
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: to get some money, and they didn't target her because
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: she was female. They targeted her because her money was
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: in a container that was easy for them to steal
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: and so you know, now we have to hear about
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: how violent men are, even though the percent of the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: percentage of the population who engages in that type of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: crime is actually incredibly tiny, and we have to hear
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: about the bear. We have to hear the bear narrative
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: is about claiming that women have just absolutely no way
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: to tell the difference between men who are criminally violent
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and normal men who don't engage in any kind of
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: violence whatsoever through their whole adult life, unless they're confronted
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: with violence that they can't get away from and have
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: to defend themselves from, and you know, they'll demonize every
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: man in the area, and i thing, you know, their
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: community passes a misogyny law and anti misogyny law, or
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: there's a new curfew and everybody has to be inside
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: earlier unless they have, you know, some sort of thing
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: saying that they're on their way to work or on
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: their way home from work, and you know, suddenly you
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: have restrictions on men that don't really make the woman safe,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: but they appeal to her ego and they make her
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: feel better. And that's happened over and over again during
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: the last century as a result of women doing stupid things.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: You have women creating an epidemic of unwed parenthood, which
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: we all know about the statistics that show that children
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: raised without an involved father have much worse outcomes statistically
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: then children who are raised with an involved father. And
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: yet over forty percent of children born in the United
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: States right now are born to single moms, and many
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: of them are single moms by choice, meaning they had
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: no intention of having an involved father when they got pregnant,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: like they got pregnant on purpose and had no intention
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: of the father being involved, but they might want his
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: wallet to be involved. Those that don't care if his
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: wallet's involved or not get artificial insemination through sperm donors
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: and sperm clinics, and that's been on the rise. Women
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: going to these clinics and getting sperm donation when they
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: don't have a partner to raise the child with and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: so there's no involved father, not even involved stepfather. And
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: when they're in that situation and they don't make enough
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: money to support the child, they end up going on welfare.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: And you support the child through your tax dollars, every
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: single one of you, every tax dollar you pay, some
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: of that money gets taken out for the welfare system,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: and that's where it goes. So women are more likely
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: to give up and declare themselves disabled if they have
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: a physical disability or a mental disability that makes it
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: difficult for them to find a job that they can do.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: They're more likely to just say, all right, well I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: can't work now and go for disability. And so you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: are also paying for that right, And you're paying for
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: a whole system to protect women against intimate partner and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: sexual violence that, as we have seen in our last
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: two shows, has spent the last thirty years in an
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: international covenant with actions being taken in every nation in
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: the world as part of this covenant. And they have
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: achieved absolutely nothing, according to their own reports. And you're
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: paying for that through your tax dollars. So women, you know,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: we women are not just overprotected. Women are surrounded in
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: bubble wrap paid for by men that is unfortunately designed
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: to prevent women from learning from the consequences of their
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: choices by mitigating those consequences to the degree that women
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: can't even consider them as consequences. I have created a family.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Now I cannot afford to get my hair and nails
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: done all the time and live life like a party girl.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Oh no, yes you can, because we're going to pay
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: for your groceries. We're going to pay for your house,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: We're going to pay for your electricity, your your heating bill,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: your water bill, your sewer and trash. We're just going
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: to make men pay those through through taxation. Right, they're
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: not oppressed. Uh Mangatka ninety two has a great way
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: of putting it. They're not oppressed, they're sheltered. Hm mm hmm. Right.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: And this is this is women looking through the bubble
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: at Africa where feminists don't have as much control and
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: deciding that women in Africa must be horribly oppressed by
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: their own culture and now they have to have they
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: got to start interfering in African marriages. So that's again,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. This is what they're
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: trying to do. Another one that that really struck me,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna skip the the first one here because
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: it's similar to previous ones. Prohibition through legislative may, backed
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: by sanctions of all forms of female genital mutilation, scarification,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: medicalization and paramedicalization a female genital mutilation, and all other
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: practices in order to eradicate them.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Do they at any point mention male genitally.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Nope, not at all.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: That's not what they call it. They call it something else,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: So it is something else, just like they call men
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: and women something else, should they decide to call themselves
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: something else? This is what This is why I go
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: on about fucking linguistics so much. This is why all
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Well went on about linguistics so much, because they're all
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: all stems from what we call things. This is why
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Confucius warned us that the beginning of wisdom is calling
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: things what they are. We calling female genital mutually what
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: it is, gentle mutilation. Meanwhile, we're not calling male genital
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: mutilation what it is. We're calling it this all manner
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: of euphemisms. And you know, I've I've made it my
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: life's work to fucking fight back against euphemisms because I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: I fancy, I fancy myself as an amateur linguist. I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: was something of a linguist myself, to do the to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: do the the Spider Man me, the William Dafoe meme. Yes,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm something of a linguist myself. And yeah, if
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: we were to really call things, then it would throw
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: all of our societies in in in into into this,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: into this chaos, because I know a lot of you
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: are going to accuse me of anti Semitism, and if
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: you got past that barrier, you would accuse me of
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Islamophone because it's not. It's not. It's not just Jews
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: who mutilate the genitals of young boys. It's I mean,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: it's something like seventy percent of Americans. It's something like
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: ninety of North Africans. And and if you were, if you,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: if you were to map this across the world, it
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: it it disappears to vanishing point across East Asia. God
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: bless East Asia, not for a number of things, but
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: for this. But yeah, a great deal of people, particularly Monotheists,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: not just Jews, but especially Muslims. And indeed, the seventy
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: percent of Americans who do this to their sons, most
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: of whom are Christians or atheists. So it's nothing to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: do with religious affiliation. This is something, you know. I
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: wish I could die so I could meet Christopher Hitchens
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: in the heavens. I mean this unlikely I would meet
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: him in the heavens. If Christopher Hitchins exists anyway, it's
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: probably not in the heavens because he was like, yeah,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: I don't. I am not all this idea the heavens,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: but I want, you know, I just I just want
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: to talk to him about this, this idea he had
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: that the genital the genital mutilation community is almost entirely
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Religiou just it's not, it's not at all. The The
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: the general American population is a testament to this. There
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: are more circumcised males in North America than there are
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: non gentle generally mutilated boys in North America. There's nothing
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: to do with the religion, there's.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Nothing that is being abandoned, but.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Slowly there's nothing in in the Christian mythos that that
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: tells people to circumcise their children. And yet there are
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: more circumcised males than uncircumcised males in America. Uh and
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: and and this can't be accounted to by by by
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: the Jewish faith faith or the most in faith. It's
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: it's so it's like like mister hit it's used to
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: say the general mutilating community is and is almost entirely religious. No,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: the the American population it's, as I say, a testament
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: against this. So we have to look to other explanations.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: And it's not just a market. Even in my own country,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: twenty percent of of of males are I want to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: say circumcised, but let's not euphemize this. Twenty percent of
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: males are generally mutilated. And it goes across the European
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: continent and amongst these things. It's and it's nothing to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: do with with with religious justifications. It's because women like it.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Let's let's get down to brass tacks. It's because women,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of women, an uncomfortable amount of women for
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: circumcised penises for whatever reason. I don't know why. I
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: guess it's because it's more comfortable for them.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: No, No, I don't know why.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just they used.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: To Women are bandwagon jumpers like that, you know. And
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: that's it's that women don't like it because there's anything
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: good about it. Women like it because they are told
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: that they should like it. Yeah, and it's gross if
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: it's not done, and that that's enough for a lot
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: of women to decide that they The circumcision pattern in
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: the United States was driven by a market for foreskins,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: and that's been a thing for a very long time.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: It was initially driven by this philosophy that masturbation makes
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: men weak, and cutting off the foreskin would discourage masturbation,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: and therefore you have to do that. That was Harvey Kellott.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Well it's my monody. Let's us not forget my monody
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: is for a Jews listening to me.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: As soon as it started becoming feasible to use a
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: neonatal foreskin fibroblasts for medical purposes and in makeup and stuff,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: it got pushed really hard, and all of a sudden,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: research was done in Sub Saharan Africa to try to
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: prove that circumcision is very important and that you'll get
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: AIDS if you don't get circumcised, which is all bullshit
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: and and so on, when in reality, you know, if
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: you really want to avoid sexually transmitted infections, don't sleep around.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: And if you're gonna sleep around anyway, you know, note
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: that you're taking the risk and use condoms to mitigate
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: it somewhat. But aside from that, like, there's there's no basis.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: A lot of people think that it's because of Christianity.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: A lot of people think that Christianity has this mandate
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: to circumcision because of the Old Testament mandate for Jews
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: to be circumcised, but in fact, there are actual verses
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: in the Bible that that state that circumcision isn't important anymore,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: that doesn't have to be done. And you know, if
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: I remember right, one of them is Incalations and basically
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: says it doesn't matter whether you're circumcised or not. It
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: matters that you exhibit your faith by working through love.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: And there was one in Corinthians again that said keeping
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: God's commandments matters, not whether or not you're circumcised, and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: the commandments being the Ten Commandments, so it's not it
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: was decided by the early Church that these verses indicated
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: that circumcision is not important to Christians and there's no
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: mandate to be circumcised. And so in other countries that
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: are primarily Christian, you will find that there's not a
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: high pattern is circumcision because of that only in the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: United States. And you know, it's because in the United
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: States it really was heavily promoted to the public and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: women just bought into it.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Women just just didn't just buy into it. They bought
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: into it because they prefer being fucked by an uncircumcised penis.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: And we really have to push this onto them, like
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: this is your son, Like, now, do you want to
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: be fucked by your son?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Is that why you're doing this? Right? I know, I
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: know that's uh that that's going through a few barriers
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: to get there. But you're You're not the one who's
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: going to fuck your son. Your son is going to
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: be fucked by someone else. So you're removing a part
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: of your son's anatomy in the hope that whoever eventually
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: develops a sexual relationship with them is going to prefer
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: a circum he gently mutilated penis. Like you really need
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: to push back on that.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't think it has as much to
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: do with that as you think. I think women women
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: have a tendency to listen to people that they shouldn't
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: listen to in general, and if somebody has a title
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: that makes them seem authoritative, women will listen to that
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: and they'll just they'll just take it for granted that
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: this person knows more than they do, and they'll accept it.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: But the other element of that is that a lot
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: of circumcisions in the United States was pushed by fathers.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: You know, I want my son to look like me. Yeah, Like,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: that's my favorite argument. I want my son to look
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: like his father. Well, doesn't his face suffice? Are they
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: walking around with their dicks out saying oh look, we
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: look just alike. I can see the resemblance. Yeah, well
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: you think of it this way, all right. If if
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: you were caught in a house fire and you have
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: burned scars, are you going to scarificate? You get to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: do a scarification ritual on your son to make matching
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: burn burn scars.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: If you.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: If you were raised by an abuser that beats you
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: with a belt and you have scars on your back
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: from that, are you going to beat your child with
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: a belt to to create similar scars? You know, this
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: is a this is a ritual that that creates a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: scar and it involves an amputation of of skin. It's
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: not you know, it's not the same as dressing alike.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: And so it's definitely not the same uh to to
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: UH say I want my son to look like me,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have this done. It's not the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: same to to uh to suggest that that's normal as
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: it as it would be to suggest that you know,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: what what nutritional things your ancestors did or right, or
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: what you know what clothing choices you wear together or right,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: or things like that. I wanted to go into my
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: profession because my profession made good money for me. You know,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: this is this is a totally different thing. This is
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: more like like I said, wanting to to scar your
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: child for you know, to to match your scars so
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: that the child looks like he went through the same
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: pain and suffering that you did. And I will admit,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: you know, when I when I was pregnant, and there
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: was a lot of pressure from from different elements in
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: my family, and you know, there was a lot of
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: pressure to to just conform to what people were doing
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: and what the medical profession was saying was necessary and
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: all that. And you know, I'm I'm the kind of
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: person that the first thought in my head was, you know,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: I took a anatomy. I took a few different courses
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: that would be precursors to going into nursing. And one
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: of the things that I learned was that the biggest
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: organ in your immune system is your skin. It's your
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: first line of defense against outside infections that if they
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: just were to land on say open muscle tissue or
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: something would would affect you, they would be able to
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: get into your bloodstream. They would be able to create
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: all kinds of problems. So you you need every time
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: you get a cut, every time you get a scrape,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: every time you get a burn, you know, anytime you
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: have surgery, anything like that. It's creating an opportunity for
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: opportunistic infections. And so the first thing I thought was,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're advising me to have skin removed from
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: my son's genitalia at a time period where he hasn't
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: learned yet to to to control his bowels and his bladder,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: so he's incontinent. Because all infants, all newborns, are incontinent. Therefore,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: that area is going to be exposed to urine and feces,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: which are germ laden, because that's your body's waste disposal.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: It seems like the dumbest thing in the world. I'm
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: looking into this before before I make this decision. What
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: the hell? Why are we doing this to children? You know,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: it'd be different if you were older, you were an adult.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: You're you've developed control over all of that stuff. You
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: know that it's you can keep it clean, you can
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: keep it bandage. You're still going to expose it to
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: your and there's no way to not but you could
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: at least keep it clean easily, right and avoid infection.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Not not as an infant, you know, but as an infant,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: you're you're in a situation where you're completely helpless, you
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: have no control over it, and you're you're reliant on
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: parents to change you as soon as you you know,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: you go to the bathroom. So then as soon as
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: I started looking into more and more information on the subject,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: it just did not make sense to me, and started
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: talking to my husband about it, and he's like, if
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: you don't want to do it, we shouldn't do it.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: And that's the way, you know. We decided to leave
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: it up to when he gets older, got older, what
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: his his decision would be, and and that's that was it,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: you know. But I would say a year later after
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: he was born, maybe two years, the first reports about
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: those subsheren studies started coming out, and I spent about
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: six months going back and forth self doubt, you know,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: should we have done that? Did I just you know,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: make my son more susceptible to HIV? And then I
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: started looking at the studies themselves and realizing that the
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: study was bullshit. They were essentially attributing to circumcision the
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: benefits of condom use. Like entirely the whole study was
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: based on attributing to circumcision the benefits of condom use.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: And as soon as I realized that, I was like,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: all right, nope, prect decision. This isn't my body. It's
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: not beneficial to do this in infancy. It's actually dangerous
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: to do it in infancy. And I'm glad I realized
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: that because as I started looking more and more like
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: I kept up on this information for a long time
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: because of that period of self doubt, and I realized
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: how many boys die every year is as a result
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: of this procedure where they bleed to death because it
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't known that they had a blood clotting issue, or
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: they get an infection and they die from the infection.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: If it's done. There's a particular procedure that is done
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: within just the Jewish community that involves this is it's
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: really gross. The rabbi stops the bleeding with his lips.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure where that came from or why
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: that there have been infants. I don't it doesn't make sense,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: but the infants that are subjected to this, some of
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: them get like that herpies that causes lip sores in
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: their bloodstream. Well during infancy, germs have an easier time
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: crossing the blood brain barrier than they do any other time,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: and as a result, they end up dying because of that.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: They get that infection and they die. I cannot imagine
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: what that must be. Like, this is this is what,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: this is what?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is what took many so many of
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: us from the the anti religious community of like just
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: ten years ago, but fifteen years ago, when we were
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: all where we had this atheist community and we were
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: all speaking out against religions and stuff. But then it,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: you know, it finally occurred to it. That's what causes circumcision,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: is I mean, male generous little mutilation is not just religion.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: It's it's mysingry. There's no other way to put it.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: Because because it spans across all religions and even across
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: non religions, even atheists can find secular ways to excuse
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: the genital mutilation of boys. And we were all like, well,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: this is this goes far deeper than religion. There is
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: something else that is causing this barbarism. It's not just Jews.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: It's not just Muslims, and it's certainly not just Christians,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: even though you think it would be. Now, the reasons
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: so many people think it's perfectly fine to genitally torture
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: young boys is mysingry. And this is why we've been
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: talking about this ship for a dozen years or so,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: because there's something that runs deeper than any religion. We
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: call it mysonry. We call it a bunch of things.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: We a bunch of things that are not in the
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: in general, in the general parlance of the average person.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Because mysionry is not in the general parlance of the
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: average person. This is why it feels perfectly normal to
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: generitally torture eight day old baby boys. It's called it's
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: it's called mysonry. It's there's a bunch of things that
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: could be called, but we don't call it what it is.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: And what it is is mysonry, which there's there's just
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: this many people that just don't give a ship if
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: if you generally torture boys because they're just boys, because
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: they're just males, and that's that's that's what it is.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: That's why so many people from from the old atheist
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: community of of fifteen years ago. I don't know how
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: many of you remember that that craze, uh where where
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: where it? It required us to push back against religious convenents,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: uh because that was all we could do to push
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: back against, uh, the the general little torture of boys.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: But that was what it took. And and and since that,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: that's what caused the the schism between between misunterest atheists
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: and non misunterest atheists. And and and ever since then,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: we've we've we've pushed back against ourselves at in order
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: to even try and isolate the notion of miss Andrew,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: the notion that there's it doesn't matter what religion you are,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: it's not okay to generously torture boys. And and this
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: is a far greater, a far more urgent issue than
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: anything religious, Like it doesn't it doesn't fucking matter what
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: religion you are. It's not okay to generously torture babies,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter what's in the back of your head, Like,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: it's not okay, yeah, to do that two baby boys.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: And it's the it's it's it's the building side of
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: every coin that the other face of the coin that
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: has the actual face face on it. Is guyinocentrism. You
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: can't have gynocentrism without missonry. This is why I don't
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: believe guyinocentrism is natural. I believe storge is natural. The
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: family love that values the entire family and places a
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: value on each person's role in the family and organizes
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: how the family is handled, how you know, who does
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: what job, and how various parts of the family are
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: exposed to government or protected from government, exposed to the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: community or protected from the community. Who handles the social end,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: who handles the economic end, who handles the the hunting,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: and who handles the gathering and all that. But it's
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: all revolving around recognizing skills within the families and recognizing
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: capabilities within the family, and loving each family member as
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: part of the family, not you know, if mama ain't happy,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: ain't nobody happy. Right. It's building happiness through the actions
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: of each member of the family. And it's one of
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: the reasons why people used to organize into small communities
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: of extended families too, because nobody was going to be
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: as invested in the welfare of your children as your
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: extended family would be. Because your children were the generation
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: that's going to take care of the extended family as
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: they become the aging generation and the wise and valued
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: old ancestors. Right, This idea that we just take boys
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: and discard them, discard their welfare for the benefit of women,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: just you can't have that and have a family and
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: a society that continues to function properly. It doesn't work.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: That's why we've ended up in this terrible situation. And
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: I think from just from having worked with people who
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: have temporarily come here, Like there was a nursing student
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: that I worked with not too long ago. She moved
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: here to study nursing, and when she got her degree,
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  Speaker 1: she was going to go back home with her degree
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  Speaker 1: in practice at home, but she wanted to study medicine here,
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  Speaker 1: and so she was going to a local university in
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  Speaker 1: the Dayton metro area, and she worked with the company
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  Speaker 1: that I worked for as a direct support professional. In
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  Speaker 1: the way that she described her experience of family and
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  Speaker 1: community in her country in Africa was very much like
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  Speaker 1: pre twentieth century family and community in the United States,
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  Speaker 1: where when your parents got old, they moved into your
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  Speaker 1: home and you took care of them, and they saw
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  Speaker 1: their grandkids every day, and their grandkids helped take care
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  Speaker 1: of them, and you know, they would help take care
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  Speaker 1: of the younger grandchildren, and the whole family was contributing
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  Speaker 1: to the household as best they could, and the whole
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  Speaker 1: family got the benefit of each other's love and each
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  Speaker 1: other's wisdom and each other's companionship. And you know, it
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  Speaker 1: made a lot more sense than what we do today,
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  Speaker 1: where elderly people, even if they have kids, get shuffled
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  Speaker 1: off into nursing homes and forgotten about. In a lot
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  Speaker 1: of instances, when I was a nurse's aid, there were
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  Speaker 1: so many people who had family members that could come
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  Speaker 1: to see them that didn't, and it was heartbreaking. And
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  Speaker 1: my grandparents moved in with my parents when I was
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  Speaker 1: in college. I had I think we were planning it
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  Speaker 1: when I was in high school, but I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we actually achieved it until I was away at school.
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  Speaker 1: But we were doing We did construction on the house.
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  Speaker 1: We built an in law apartment. I say we, but
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  Speaker 1: my my parents and my grandparents funded the creation of
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  Speaker 1: that in law and apartment and they lived there until
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  Speaker 1: the end of their lives, both of them, and it
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  Speaker 1: was it was good for them because they had a
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  Speaker 1: safe place, they had advocates. You know, somebody said, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know your father needs heart surgery. Grandpa was wet
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  Speaker 1: ready to go get that heart surgery downe a balloon surgery.
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  Speaker 1: Mom took him to another doctor for a second opinion,
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  Speaker 1: and the other doctor ran a bunch of tests and said,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to have balloon surgery. Your heart is fine.
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  Speaker 1: And he'd never did have heart problems like his whole life,
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  Speaker 1: he never had heart problems. But in any case, you know,
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  Speaker 1: those kind of things. If you're in a nursing home
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  Speaker 1: and you don't get your nursing homes don't do second opinions.
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  Speaker 1: You have one doctor that sees all the patients, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe the patients the regular doctor can come in and
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  Speaker 1: see them. But if somebody recommends a surgery, the surgery
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  Speaker 1: gets done. If somebody recommends a procedure, the procedure gets done,
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  Speaker 1: and they just build the insurance. And if somebody gets
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  Speaker 1: an infection, they they die. And you know, so they
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  Speaker 1: benefited from that. But at the same time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my brother and I benefited immensely from getting to see
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  Speaker 1: our grandparents every day and having them there. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we ate dinner every day with not just our parents,
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  Speaker 1: but our grandparents, that was wonderful, and we wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: had that if they'd have been in a home somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: even if it was the best nursing home in the
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  Speaker 1: area and they got the best possible care they could
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  Speaker 1: could get from anybody, and you know, it was a
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  Speaker 1: luxury nursing home of the few that exist. I think
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  Speaker 1: at both ends of that we would have rather have
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  Speaker 1: had that contact. And you know, that structure is under
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  Speaker 1: attack and has been under attack by feminists for one
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  Speaker 1: hundred years, and the destruction of that structure. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if I had been an elementary school kid or a teenager,
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  Speaker 1: especially like junior high age, during the time when school
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  Speaker 1: teachers were convincing students that if you know, you were
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit tomboyish as a girl, that you're actually
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: a trans man. If you're a little bit fastidious what
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: they would have called metrosexual in the nineties as a boy,
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  Speaker 1: you're actually a trans woman. But we'd had my grandparents
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  Speaker 1: at home, they both would have called bullshit on that
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  Speaker 1: real quick if I had if it had happened and
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  Speaker 1: my grandparents weren't there, you know, I had my parents,
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  Speaker 1: and they would have pushed back against it. But having
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  Speaker 1: both my parents and my grandparents would have protected me.
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  Speaker 1: But if I'd have been in a situation where I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have that kind of protection, I probably could have
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  Speaker 1: been talked into thinking I was trains because I was.
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  Speaker 1: I spent half my childhood up in a tree. I
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  Speaker 1: played football with the boys, I picked up bugs, I
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: played with gooey, gross stuff just like all the I
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  Speaker 1: took things apart to see how they worked. This got
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: me into an immense amount of trouble sometimes and so on.
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  Speaker 1: So I would have had I would have had teachers going,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's boy stuff, you must be a boy.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, clearly I'm not. Clearly I don't identify
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  Speaker 1: as male, no matter what Twitter says, but it would
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: it would be awful, you know, to be in that circumstance,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure from school and so on, without
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  Speaker 1: having some sort of protection at home. And I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of kids today would benefit from having their
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  Speaker 1: grandparents in their home. They are a major grounding factor.
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  Speaker 1: Not grounding as in you're grounded, you're being punished, but
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: as then you got both feet on the ground, and
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: it's a lot harder for somebody to push you in
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: one direction or another, including the wrong direction. The direction
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: is wrong for you. But yeah, so this thing, this
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: attack on family, and this prohibition of female genital mutilation
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: on the continent where all the experiments were done on
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: men and boys. And if you think the circumcision that
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: we do in the United States is bad, don't listen
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: to this if you have a strong stomach. But if
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: you have a strong stomach, look up thub incision. It
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: is an absolute horror show, just unbelievable stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And it is a tradition. Then I'm hoping that it's
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: mostly been eliminated because it's it's horrifyingly tortuous and unhealthy.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: On top of being excruciating, it creates health problems. But
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: this is what you know. They don't They don't have
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: anything in this about protecting boys at all from these
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: types of practices. Only girls. And like I said, the
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: face side, the side that we see, the side that
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: we think of as human of the coin is gynocentrism.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: But on the other side of that same coin, the
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: instantutional side, the side that has that little building on it, right,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: whatever building they decide to feature, that's that's uh, Miss Indry,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Miss indry is pervasive, institutionalized, it's uh imposed everywhere. So
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: and of course what what does what does you and
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: women want to do? But rescue women from it, not
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: men the people who need rescued from it. So uh yeah,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: protectors women who aret risk of being subjected to harmful practices,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: but not protection of men who are being subjected to
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: harmful practices. So I'm going to stop it there, Richard BarreR, Yes,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: I was trying to not subject the rest of the
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: listeners to a description because there are some people who
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: cannot handle gore. But essentially, yeah, if you can handle gore,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: read about sub incision. If you cannot handle gore, do
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: not read about sub incision because it is gore. There
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: is no other way to to to look at that.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: That is gore.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: So it's something that I'm hoping, hoping is being eliminated,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: hoping hoping that tradition is moving away from it, and
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that eventually we'll get tradition to move away
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: all all move away from all types of genital underage,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: genital cutting. It shouldn't be done at all. But with that,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to call the show because I don't want
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: to get onto the next subject. And I'm not going
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: to go over the changes they want to make to
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: marriage other than to say they're essentially doing anti coviture
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: in in Africa. I didn't know that there were nations
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: in Africa that the the traditions in local culture was
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: was still coverture oriented. That's kind of interesting. But the
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: thing that happened in the US was they got rid
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: of the female consequences of coverture, but not the male obligations.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: And look where we are now. So I hope the
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: African people don't fall for that shit. But in the meantime,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: we are. We don't have any more super chows, we
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: don't have any super chats or rumble rants. So I'm
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: going to say thanks everyone for listening, Thanks to my
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: two co hosts for going over this with me, and
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: thanks to Brian for making sure we are able to
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: have the vertical chat in addition to the regular chat.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: Good I there you go.
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  Speaker 2: See next Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Next well, yeah, we'll see you Tuesday. Remember there is
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: a HBr news on Thursday, though no one