Latest / Teach Me Something Hosted By DJ Prostyle & Penny Dellas / Outside Again: Music, Empowerment & Brooklyn with Maiya The Don
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, what's up?
- 0:00Speaker 2: This is DJ Pro Style.
- 0:02Speaker 1: And this is Penny Delos.
- 0:03Speaker 2: And this is Teach Me Something.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Brought to you by Berklee College.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, guess what? We
- 0:09Speaker 2: are back, baby. We are back. It is Teach Me
- 0:12Speaker 2: Something presented by Berklee College. I am Pro Style.
- 0:15Speaker 1: I am Penny Delos.
- 0:16Speaker 2: How you doing, Penny?
- 0:17Speaker 1: I'm doing great. You know, look at the white kids
- 0:19Speaker 1: with tans.
- 0:20Speaker 2: They're I just came back from the Dominican Republic, so
- 0:22Speaker 2: I'm a little, you know, I'm still in the red phase.
- 0:24Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I have done a summer tour with the podcast.
- 0:27Speaker 2: I know. I've seen you.
- 0:28Speaker 1: I just finished it off where you were not.
- 0:31Speaker 2: I wasn't there.
- 0:31Speaker 1: You were on a boat.
- 0:32Speaker 2: I was at the Dominican Republic. I was on a boat.
- 0:33Speaker 1: You were doing emergency situations. Yeah.
- 0:35Speaker 2: You have to go to my Instagram to see what
- 0:37Speaker 2: she's talking about.
- 0:37Speaker 1: You guys got to go to the social media and
- 0:39Speaker 1: check it out.
- 0:39Speaker 2: But anyway, we have a guest here that's looking at
- 0:42Speaker 2: us talk about our cans. We do.
- 0:45Speaker 1: I'm 10 all year, baby.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Are we going to introduce Maya the Don or what
- 0:48Speaker 2: are we doing?
- 0:48Speaker 3: Let's introduce her, the one and only Maya the Don,
- 0:52Speaker 3: 2024 XXL freshman class in the building.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Hello.
- 0:56Speaker 2: And Maya's like family because I've seen Maya at all
- 0:58Speaker 2: our events for Power. Everything we do for Power, for iHeart,
- 1:01Speaker 2: she's at all the events, so I love it. You
- 1:03Speaker 2: know what I mean? She's like family.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Yeah, we cousins.
- 1:06Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 1:08Speaker 1: Maya, I don't know. She came in here with snacks.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:11Speaker 1: So honestly, the listeners like to know what we're eating.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Maya had some chips earlier. Yeah, I had some chips.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I had a turkey and cheese on a roll.
- 1:17Speaker 2: By the way, the chips you had, those are the
- 1:18Speaker 2: ones I go to all the time also. Those are
- 1:20Speaker 2: my go-to chips.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Those was yummy. I needed that for a second. I
- 1:23Speaker 1: was like, my stomach was touching my back.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:26Speaker 1: I needed to revive myself real quick.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Shout out to Quick Check. I'm going to say that
- 1:31Speaker 2: because every time I stop there, I always get those.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Those are the ones. I like the hot chocolate. The
- 1:37Speaker 2: kids get the Funyuns. I get those.
- 1:39Speaker 1: I like their hot chocolates.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Hot chocolate?
- 1:40Speaker 1: For life. They're hot chocolates.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Really?
- 1:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:43Speaker 2: I've only gone on a quick check for gas and
- 1:44Speaker 2: sandwiches and chips. Nope.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Got to do the hot chocolate. Look at us giving
- 1:47Speaker 1: free promo. Anyways.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Shout out to the quick check.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Shout out to the quick check to the iHeartRadio partners.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Quick check. They're the bomb.com. If you're in Jersey, stop
- 1:55Speaker 1: by there.
- 1:56Speaker 2: So Maya was asking, you know, about the podcast. It's
- 1:58Speaker 2: obviously called Teach Me Something. Yes. And I said, you know,
- 2:00Speaker 2: so Maya, you know, it's about you teaching us stuff. And,
- 2:03Speaker 2: you know, it's about learning stuff. So we like to
- 2:05Speaker 2: start with like multiplication questions. We'll go to little The
- 2:08Speaker 2: vision after that. You know what I mean? We're going
- 2:10Speaker 2: to ask you some questions.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I'm really good at math. I'm like, no, this is
- 2:13Speaker 1: right on my ass.
- 2:13Speaker 3: The studio is the classroom.
- 2:15Speaker 1: The whiteboard's about to come down. I'm like, oh, okay.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Let me ask you.
- 2:19Speaker 2: This is a funny question because I see this on
- 2:21Speaker 2: social media all the time since you're good at math. Okay?
- 2:23Speaker 2: And I ask my kids this all the time. We'll
- 2:24Speaker 2: ask Penny, too.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Okay.
- 2:26Speaker 2: What is 2 plus 2 times 2? What is the answer? Quickly. 8. 8.
- 2:31Speaker 2: She says 8. What do you say?
- 2:32Speaker 1: 2 plus 2 times 2?
- 2:33Speaker 2: No. 2 plus 2 times 2.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I would say 8, too.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Okay, both of you guys are wrong. This is amazing.
- 2:38Speaker 2: So let me teach you guys something because the rule.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Of mathematics is... No, you just paused. You said 2
- 2:42Speaker 1: plus 2.
- 2:42Speaker 2: You paused. No, 2 plus 2 times 2.
- 2:45Speaker 1: No, you said 2 plus 2 times 2. You paused. Okay,
- 2:47Speaker 1: so what's... So 4 times 2 is 8.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Okay.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Yeah. So.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Let me say it again. Two plus two times two.
- 2:55Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess if you were going to go,
- 2:57Speaker 1: because you have to do the multiplication first.
- 2:59Speaker 2: First.
- 2:59Speaker 1: And then add two. The answer is six.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Penny's going to take this
- 3:04Speaker 2: out anyway.
- 3:05Speaker 1: For those that are listening to us at home, when
- 3:07Speaker 1: you hear the pause.
- 3:08Speaker 2: That is one of those questions.
- 3:09Speaker 1: We're going to clip this and post it on social.
- 3:12Speaker 2: You should have wrote it. No. Okay, Liam.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Liam's holding up his phone saying he's right.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Two times two.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Can I see that?
- 3:19Speaker 2: If I put this up, what's the answer? She would
- 3:21Speaker 2: have still said eight.
- 3:22Speaker 1: No, Alex, it's the way that you pause in between.
- 3:25Speaker 1: So how would you read this? Because you have to
- 3:27Speaker 1: do the two times two first. Yes, but you're seeing
- 3:29Speaker 1: it there. Really, the correct math question would have parentheses
- 3:32Speaker 1: in there. Let me tell you how that's supposed to be. Okay. Okay. No, no.
- 3:39Speaker 2: No, get out of here with that.
- 3:41Speaker 1: This is how it's supposed to be. Two plus two
- 3:43Speaker 1: is four. Times two.
- 3:45Speaker 2: I'm probably the only one here who went to college.
- 3:47Speaker 2: That's what it is.
- 3:48Speaker 1: I have three degrees.
- 3:48Speaker 2: I'm just playing with you.
- 3:49Speaker 1: It's eight. I was like, wait.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Hold on. Okay, let's talk about these degrees.
- 3:54Speaker 3: For those of you that are at home, we are
- 3:56Speaker 3: drawing this on paper and holding them up.
- 3:59Speaker 1: So you got to go to those socials.
- 4:00Speaker 2: You know why I asked that question, by the way?
- 4:02Speaker 2: I did that the other day because it came up
- 4:03Speaker 2: on social media.
- 4:04Speaker 1: What did the kids say?
- 4:06Speaker 2: They all said, everyone said eight.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:08Speaker 2: But it was... The guy was asking the question.
- 4:11Speaker 1: I am not smarter than a fifth grader is what
- 4:12Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, yeah, basically.
- 4:14Speaker 2: I just wanted her to get it wrong and she did.
- 4:16Speaker 2: So I was hoping you were going to get it right.
- 4:18Speaker 1: It's the way that he paused. We still stuck on
- 4:21Speaker 1: that pause. We're going to be ending the podcast like,
- 4:24Speaker 1: but you know you shouldn't have paused that way.
- 4:28Speaker 3: But what's not a pause is the phenomenal collaboration that
- 4:32Speaker 3: you've done with Brooklyn FC.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's talk about it. How did that come about? Um,
- 4:39Speaker 1: they like hit me up and it was like, Hey,
- 4:40Speaker 1: you want to come to a game? I was like, sure.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I love women's sports. I love just, yeah. Like women's
- 4:47Speaker 1: basketball is my thing, but I love women in sports.
- 4:49Speaker 1: I'm very adamant about women playing sports better than men.
- 4:51Speaker 1: I'll argue anybody down about that. Um, so I like to,
- 4:56Speaker 1: you know, go and attend the games and support women.
- 5:00Speaker 1: And so I went to the game and then they
- 5:02Speaker 1: brought me the opportunity and it was great. I think also, um,
- 5:06Speaker 1: I did the song for the Liberty song. their walkout
- 5:09Speaker 1: song as well. Let's talk about it. What are the
- 5:11Speaker 1: names of the songs? That song is called Frenzy, the remix.
- 5:14Speaker 1: So that was really fun. I worked with them the
- 5:16Speaker 1: year they won the championship. So I don't want to
- 5:19Speaker 1: say it was me, but it was probably me.
- 5:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:25Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe like 15% of it. I should
- 5:28Speaker 1: have got a ring, but. Yeah, yeah.
- 5:29Speaker 2: They should give you a ring. They should give you
- 5:31Speaker 2: a ring for sure.
- 5:31Speaker 1: They should give you a ring. That was a really
- 5:34Speaker 1: fun experience. Yeah, I'm really excited about the BKFC thing
- 5:37Speaker 1: because it's like, I'm from Brooklyn. Yeah. It's the Brooklyn team.
- 5:40Speaker 1: It's women in sports. They're really good. Yeah. And, yeah.
- 5:45Speaker 1: What was the process of doing Outside Again? Oh, it
- 5:48Speaker 1: was a long process. You have to make sure, like,
- 5:52Speaker 1: when you're writing songs for things, It can't be just like, okay,
- 5:56Speaker 1: this is what I want to say. It's like for
- 5:58Speaker 1: this one thing. You have to incorporate. Right. And I
- 6:01Speaker 1: can't always cuss or like I can't always, you know,
- 6:04Speaker 1: say certain things that, you know. So it's kind of strict.
- 6:07Speaker 1: You know, it's a line you got to tell. But
- 6:09Speaker 1: it was really, really fun. Like I was in a studio.
- 6:12Speaker 1: I worked for two days just coming up with ideas.
- 6:17Speaker 1: I had some other girls come, like the players.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 6:20Speaker 1: And I had them do some backgrounds for me. It
- 6:22Speaker 1: was really fun. That's awesome. They were like... fish out
- 6:24Speaker 1: of water they was like I don't know so it
- 6:27Speaker 1: was like nice to like coach them on something.
- 6:29Speaker 2: But it had to be fun yes it was because.
- 6:32Speaker 1: When I went to the game and I like hung
- 6:33Speaker 1: out with them a little bit and I like raced
- 6:35Speaker 1: them like me racing a soccer player like okay girl
- 6:39Speaker 1: I won though I did win um but it's like
- 6:42Speaker 1: stuff like that and then so it was nice to
- 6:45Speaker 1: kind of like have them come and I was like
- 6:47Speaker 1: yeah we're on my turf now so Ooga booga. Ooga booga.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I love it.
- 6:54Speaker 2: I love Maya's energy. That's fire.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. No, it's a good time for sports. Yeah.
- 7:00Speaker 1: For female sports.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Especially New York.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just coming out of the World Cup.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:05Speaker 1: They're promoting already the Women's World Cup, right?
- 7:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:08Speaker 1: That's going to be in Brazil. So it's a good time.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:11Speaker 3: And you're very much about female empowerment, body positivity. What
- 7:15Speaker 3: does that mean to you?
- 7:17Speaker 1: I think just... Being a woman and, you know, being
- 7:21Speaker 1: like a public figure or whatever you want to call it,
- 7:24Speaker 1: it's easy to be critiqued for that just because I
- 7:28Speaker 1: am a girl. And our autonomy is our superpower. And
- 7:34Speaker 1: I think having complete control of that and your confidence
- 7:41Speaker 1: and like what you do with that and how you
- 7:43Speaker 1: weaponize that. is a big part of navigating whatever field
- 7:48Speaker 1: you're in, but specifically my own. So I just try
- 7:51Speaker 1: to put out what I want to receive. I want
- 7:55Speaker 1: people to support me because I'm good, not because of
- 7:59Speaker 1: girl power or anything like that. And so I'm just
- 8:02Speaker 1: really adamant about doing it for women because every time
- 8:05Speaker 1: you turn around, there's always somebody trying to humble you,
- 8:07Speaker 1: whether it's a man. For those of you listening at home,
- 8:13Speaker 1: the look she just gave pro-style.
- 8:15Speaker 2: The look I got.
- 8:16Speaker 1: But like, there's always a man trying to humble you. Like,
- 8:19Speaker 1: you know? Girl, what did you do before this interview?
- 8:22Speaker 2: It's definitely not me. It's always somebody.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Even other women trying to humble other women.
- 8:26Speaker 2: This has to do with the question I asked earlier
- 8:28Speaker 2: with the multiplication. This is only because two plus two
- 8:32Speaker 2: times two is not eight.
- 8:33Speaker 1: It was because of that dang question. See, he tried
- 8:35Speaker 1: to humble you with your mask.
- 8:36Speaker 2: You see that?
- 8:37Speaker 1: You see that? Oh, he tries to humble me every week.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I'm cracking up. But, yeah, so that I think it's
- 8:44Speaker 1: important to me to kind of just lead and do
- 8:48Speaker 1: what I want to see. And, you know, it's easy
- 8:50Speaker 1: for me. It comes natural, you know. I love that.
- 8:55Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I hope you do that, too.
- 8:59Speaker 3: It's all about aspiring to inspire.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Right?
- 9:03Speaker 1: Being the better version of ourselves and empowering those around us.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 9:07Speaker 3: And we talk about that. It's a common theme here
- 9:08Speaker 3: on the pod. Everyone comes up and they all say
- 9:11Speaker 3: that their network, right, is their net worth, a version
- 9:15Speaker 3: of that.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:16Speaker 1: And it's really about finding your tribe. Yeah, for sure.
- 9:18Speaker 1: I think networking and community is going to be your
- 9:23Speaker 1: most valuable currency.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:24Speaker 1: For sure. Especially in media.
- 9:26Speaker 2: I would say that your networking is great, too, because
- 9:28Speaker 2: like I said, I feel like all our events and
- 9:30Speaker 2: all the station events and everything... on the music side,
- 9:32Speaker 2: you're always involved in. I try to. And that's important
- 9:35Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people who try, like sitting
- 9:37Speaker 2: on the other side of the table on the programming side,
- 9:39Speaker 2: I get the phone calls from everybody who wants to
- 9:42Speaker 2: get involved. And unfortunately, sometimes you can't. We don't have
- 9:45Speaker 2: space or whatever, but you're always there, which is awesome.
- 9:48Speaker 1: I try. I really appreciate the DJs. These guys break
- 9:51Speaker 1: records and I exist.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. But it's based on your relationships.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Yeah, but I nurture those relationships because they mean something
- 9:59Speaker 1: to me. you know what I'm saying like you support
- 10:01Speaker 1: me play my song I'll come to wherever you want
- 10:03Speaker 1: I go to birthday parties I go to sweet 16's
- 10:06Speaker 1: for the kids like I do it all because that's
- 10:10Speaker 1: currency that's like valuable to me so when I'm ready
- 10:12Speaker 1: to drop a project and I'm like hey I need
- 10:14Speaker 1: some help hey remember that party I did two years
- 10:19Speaker 1: ago but it's not even like a tip or tat
- 10:21Speaker 1: thing it's just like I know that I'm a show
- 10:23Speaker 1: for you it's a love thing it's a support thing exactly.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Absolutely and on the music side obviously you were named
- 10:30Speaker 2: in the 2024 XXL freshman class since then you know
- 10:35Speaker 2: what's been going well first of all how was that
- 10:36Speaker 2: I mean that's a big honor right there when you
- 10:38Speaker 2: got that That announcement, they told you that was happening.
- 10:40Speaker 2: How did that come across? How'd that feel?
- 10:42Speaker 1: It was really fun. I just got the phone call
- 10:43Speaker 1: and they was like, hey, you got in. We're going
- 10:45Speaker 1: to do the shoot this week. I was like, what?
- 10:47Speaker 1: And I couldn't tell nobody. It was like a secret.
- 10:49Speaker 1: So I was like, that's probably the one time I've
- 10:52Speaker 1: ever kept a secret. Because I can't water. I can't.
- 10:55Speaker 1: I'm a Pisces.
- 10:55Speaker 2: You couldn't wait, right? You were like, I can't wait
- 10:58Speaker 2: to tell everybody.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Yo, literally, people were like, you deserve this. I hope
- 11:01Speaker 1: you get it. And I was like, what?
- 11:03Speaker 2: Knowing that you got it already.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Knowing that I got it. Like you already knew. It
- 11:07Speaker 1: was so silly. But that was really fun. Like, shout
- 11:11Speaker 1: out Vanessa, man. Like my whole XXL family. They're so
- 11:14Speaker 1: sweet and they really helped me a lot. And that's
- 11:17Speaker 1: like hip hop history, you know?
- 11:19Speaker 2: That's fire.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Someone 10 years when they looking at the, you know,
- 11:23Speaker 1: back at the classes, I'm going to be there. My
- 11:25Speaker 1: big head right in the front.
- 11:26Speaker 2: So what got you? So what got you into music?
- 11:29Speaker 1: Um, music's in me. I love music. I'm from New York.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Like this is where hip hop was birthed. So it's like,
- 11:36Speaker 1: I couldn't walk out my house without hearing music, you know,
- 11:39Speaker 1: like somebody on the corner playing in and somebody in
- 11:42Speaker 1: a car and they loud, loud Honda Civic driving. You
- 11:46Speaker 1: get on the bus, somebody put a speaker out loud.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Somebody on a bike. Yeah, there's the scary men who
- 11:52Speaker 1: walk with the speaker attached to their book bag, like
- 11:54Speaker 1: crazy people, and just play their music out loud like
- 11:57Speaker 1: headphones don't exist.
- 11:57Speaker 2: There's still a lot of people like that.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Yo, why they do that? Like headphones. You don't need them?
- 12:02Speaker 2: Even just now, we were talking about I was in
- 12:03Speaker 2: Dominican Republic. So I'm at a pool, right? We're at
- 12:05Speaker 2: the pool in Punta Cana, right? So there's a DJ
- 12:08Speaker 2: playing music. Right. And there's still a guy.
- 12:11Speaker 1: With his own.
- 12:12Speaker 2: There's music being played and there's another guy.
- 12:13Speaker 1: And as a DJ, did you feel like the disrespect?
- 12:15Speaker 2: No, I just remind myself that I'm grateful and blessed
- 12:20Speaker 2: that that's just not me. Yeah. I'm not that guy. Yeah.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Like walking around blasting my own music really loud.
- 12:26Speaker 1: It's crazy, but then also like while somebody's just taking
- 12:28Speaker 1: the time to find their own joy and like give
- 12:30Speaker 1: themselves joy.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:31Speaker 1: It's like kind of cool. It's like insane, but I
- 12:34Speaker 1: respect it.
- 12:34Speaker 2: There's a little craziness in it. Yeah. Yeah.
- 12:37Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, they're just finding joy.
- 12:39Speaker 1: I love that. You know, sometimes I'd be needing to
- 12:42Speaker 1: play my song too. Like, girl. I got to just
- 12:45Speaker 1: calm down for a second.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Yeah. He had a little crazy tone. We're not going
- 12:50Speaker 2: to get into that story, but you could just tell.
- 12:52Speaker 2: There's something else going on. But shout out to those people.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Tell me after.
- 12:56Speaker 2: But yeah, that's great. So listen, so obviously we were
- 13:00Speaker 2: all born in New York, right? And we all kind
- 13:01Speaker 2: of grew up around music and fell in love with
- 13:04Speaker 2: it and all that. But at what point did you
- 13:06Speaker 2: realize that it's something you could actually do?
- 13:08Speaker 1: Um, probably not until I got older, like right before
- 13:10Speaker 1: I started actually rapping. Um, I used to always write
- 13:13Speaker 1: music when I was young. I wanted to be a singer,
- 13:16Speaker 1: but my grandma told me I couldn't sing. So I
- 13:19Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'll go to college. Right. I
- 13:23Speaker 1: think my grandma was just honest. She was like, girl, stop.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Don't know why you wanna hear that all day. I
- 13:28Speaker 1: was like, you know what? All right. Like, okay. Um,
- 13:32Speaker 1: but then like, yeah, I, I think. I was, I
- 13:35Speaker 1: was in school. I had met my manager. And he
- 13:38Speaker 1: was like, yo, you should like take this serious. And
- 13:41Speaker 1: I think I always say that it just took for
- 13:44Speaker 1: him to believe in me, for me to be like, yes,
- 13:46Speaker 1: like I can do this actually, you know. I don't
- 13:49Speaker 1: think I had felt safe enough to dream so big
- 13:53Speaker 1: at the time, you know. But by then I was like,
- 13:57Speaker 1: I mean, what do I have to lose? Like I'm
- 13:59Speaker 1: almost done with school, so whatever. If it don't work out,
- 14:01Speaker 1: I got my degree. I'm going to go figure it out.
- 14:05Speaker 1: And then it worked out. So it was really, really cool. Yeah,
- 14:09Speaker 1: it's my favorite thing ever. I'm like, wow. So I
- 14:12Speaker 1: always say all it takes is for somebody to tell
- 14:14Speaker 1: you you can. And that's it. Even if it's yourself
- 14:17Speaker 1: that you got to tell yourself you can do this
- 14:19Speaker 1: and just believe in that. That belief will take you
- 14:22Speaker 1: anywhere you want to go.
- 14:24Speaker 2: 100%.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Affirmations. Yeah. Every day. Literally. Literally.
- 14:29Speaker 2: So you mentioned, you know, if it didn't work out,
- 14:31Speaker 2: you had your degrees. And earlier when we were joking
- 14:32Speaker 2: around with the mathematical questions I was dropping on you guys,
- 14:35Speaker 2: you did mention that you have three degrees.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I have two associates, like regular stuff. But then
- 14:40Speaker 1: I have... Don't do that.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Don't brush that off. You have two associate degrees. She's like, yeah,
- 14:49Speaker 2: just a little.
- 14:49Speaker 1: No, that's a huge accomplishment. Thank you. In what, may
- 14:52Speaker 1: I ask? I'm putting my profesora hat on. Okay. The
- 14:56Speaker 1: first one I got because I had enough credits. Out
- 14:59Speaker 1: of high school. So it's like the regular arts associates.
- 15:02Speaker 1: And then I went in business. And I have a
- 15:04Speaker 1: bachelor's in clinical and abnormal psych.
- 15:07Speaker 2: In what?
- 15:07Speaker 1: Clinical and abnormal psych.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Evaluate pro. I'll wait.
- 15:12Speaker 2: It's going to take a second.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Don't put me on the spot. It's been years. Those
- 15:19Speaker 1: are my favorite classes that I took. Really? In college. Psychology.
- 15:22Speaker 2: Really? Yeah.
- 15:23Speaker 1: I agree. Abnormal psychology. Phenomenal. I took my first. It's
- 15:27Speaker 1: all based on psychology. I took my first psych class
- 15:30Speaker 1: in high school, like my college psych class. And that's
- 15:32Speaker 1: why I decided to major in that. I was going
- 15:34Speaker 1: to major in like music distro or some shit like that.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Something like that. But I loved my first psych class
- 15:44Speaker 1: and I was like, this is what I want to
- 15:46Speaker 1: do because I just love the brain. And I like
- 15:49Speaker 1: I'm so like. why did you do that? I always
- 15:52Speaker 1: want to get to the bottom of something, you know? Like,
- 15:55Speaker 1: why did you do that? What made you do that?
- 15:56Speaker 1: The inquisitiveness and then the assessment. Exactly. Like, I love,
- 16:00Speaker 1: I'm like, mapping it out. Yeah, I'm so diagnostic with it.
- 16:04Speaker 3: I love it.
- 16:05Speaker 2: So you should grab one of those people who walk
- 16:07Speaker 2: around playing music.
- 16:09Speaker 1: No, literally.
- 16:10Speaker 2: What is it that... Why do you do this?
- 16:12Speaker 1: No, but that's what I was saying. Like, I got
- 16:14Speaker 1: to understand why you do that.
- 16:15Speaker 2: How does it make you feel? Like, what is it that.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's so much power in music. I think
- 16:18Speaker 1: that's what it is. Like, sometimes people just need something
- 16:21Speaker 1: to ground them.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Some of the answers, I'm sure, would be shocking. Yeah.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Sometimes maybe it's... Some people need the sound, the quietness or...
- 16:31Speaker 2: made they're not comfortable with that they need to be
- 16:33Speaker 2: surrounded you know to block out other sounds you know
- 16:35Speaker 2: things like that.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Like it's you know people it's so much psychology in
- 16:38Speaker 1: music it's very psychological like when i want to clean
- 16:41Speaker 1: and get things done i put on like music in
- 16:44Speaker 1: fast speed like so like anything that's gonna make you
- 16:47Speaker 1: anxious so you like i'll be like edm no like
- 16:51Speaker 1: you know i'm like the cartoons yeah yeah where something's
- 16:54Speaker 1: they're moving really fast like that I'll put that on
- 16:57Speaker 1: and my headphones. It really makes you move faster. I
- 16:59Speaker 1: swear to God.
- 17:00Speaker 2: She's looking at me like I'm nuts, but.
- 17:03Speaker 1: I swear it works.
- 17:05Speaker 3: So even when you're shopping, everything is based on focus
- 17:10Speaker 3: group psychology.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:11Speaker 3: From where everything is placed on shelves to the ambience,
- 17:14Speaker 3: the lighting, the music that is played.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Everything is meant to drive you for sales.
- 17:19Speaker 2: As a DJ, I can tell you that's 100%. Even restaurants.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Restaurants. You know it's dark in there because they want
- 17:24Speaker 1: to make you sleepy so you hurry up and get out.
- 17:26Speaker 2: In the gym, for instance, you're not going into a
- 17:28Speaker 2: gym and playing. You're not doing slow music. You're not
- 17:31Speaker 2: in the gym doing cardio. It's some laid back kind of...
- 17:34Speaker 2: It sets the tone for the mood for what you're
- 17:36Speaker 2: trying to do, for sure.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Maybe something like in park. Whatever. Exactly. Some Megan. Yes.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Some Aya.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Don't get me started. I love it. So what's next?
- 17:53Speaker 1: What is on your vision board? A big fat Grammy.
- 17:58Speaker 1: There you go. Okay. That's on my vision board. I
- 18:02Speaker 1: love that. I just got an Emmy. You want to
- 18:05Speaker 1: see it? You have it with you?
- 18:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I just got it sent to me.
- 18:09Speaker 1: What you got it for?
- 18:10Speaker 2: I feel like I like Penny.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Yep. I think you like Penny. He's making a joke.
- 18:17Speaker 1: It's a dad joke. I'm cracking up. He swears he's hilarious. What?
- 18:27Speaker 1: It looks like an Emmy, right? No, I can't touch it.
- 18:28Speaker 1: I can't touch it. No, you can, yeah. No, I
- 18:30Speaker 1: don't want to. Why? Because. No, you can.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Bad luck or something?
- 18:34Speaker 1: No, it's not bad luck. I just. I know.
- 18:37Speaker 2: It is so nice. You already broke your bracelet. Now
- 18:40Speaker 2: you're trying to break my Emmy?
- 18:42Speaker 3: Okay.
- 18:44Speaker 1: It's nice, right? I received that.
- 18:45Speaker 2: I was saying this how I stretch in the mornings.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Wow, look at you. It's not an Emmy, though, by
- 18:52Speaker 1: the way. No, it's our version.
- 18:54Speaker 3: It's the Communicator Award of Excellence for the Teach Me
- 18:57Speaker 3: Something podcast.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Look at that.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Pretty awesome.
- 19:01Speaker 1: The box is fancy. Here I am like, wow, you
- 19:03Speaker 1: really got an Emmy? I pulled it out of the box.
- 19:05Speaker 1: I said, that's not no damn Emmy, but it's nice.
- 19:08Speaker 1: It looks like an Emmy, doesn't it? I was like...
- 19:13Speaker 1: It's our version. I didn't want to rain on your parade.
- 19:18Speaker 2: That's funny. I'm taking all this time to put this away.
- 19:21Speaker 1: All right, guys. He just wanted the flakes. He's like,
- 19:25Speaker 1: you want to see it? I'll show it to you
- 19:26Speaker 1: right now. He was trying to aura farm. He just
- 19:30Speaker 1: wanted to show people he got an award.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Look. No, I did that anyway.
- 19:34Speaker 1: I got an award.
- 19:35Speaker 2: We did that already.
- 19:36Speaker 1: We did that already.
- 19:37Speaker 2: This was for motivation, all right?
- 19:39Speaker 1: Yes. No, you did that for aura.
- 19:41Speaker 2: This is hopefully leading into your Grammy.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. Manifestation. Yeah, I really want a Grammy. I
- 19:47Speaker 1: feel like I deserve it.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Okay.
- 19:49Speaker 1: If you ask me. I don't know. What's your top reason?
- 19:52Speaker 1: Because my precious cargo, my project, my precious cargo, my project,
- 19:56Speaker 1: precious cargo, is so Grammy worthy. It's so good. I
- 19:59Speaker 1: just dropped it. And it's incredible. I don't know. That's it.
- 20:04Speaker 1: That's all I can say. I'm really proud of it.
- 20:06Speaker 2: Well, talk about it a little bit. What could the
- 20:08Speaker 2: people who haven't heard it yet expect?
- 20:09Speaker 1: Um, Precious Cargo is like a coming of age story.
- 20:13Speaker 1: It's about from the time I dropped my first project
- 20:16Speaker 1: to like now, like kind of what's been going on.
- 20:19Speaker 1: I'm really honest. I'm really vulnerable. Um, and I kind
- 20:23Speaker 1: of bear it all. I have complete creative control. It's very, um, traditional.
- 20:29Speaker 1: I want to say it's also regional. So bare bones
- 20:33Speaker 1: hip hop, if that's what you're into. Um, and this
- 20:36Speaker 1: is something I'm really proud of. You know, I worked
- 20:38Speaker 1: really hard. on it and it's like my baby like
- 20:43Speaker 1: I gave birth but I'm really I'm really excited about
- 20:46Speaker 1: it I think there's a song for everybody on there
- 20:48Speaker 1: I talk about my mom I talk about my journey
- 20:51Speaker 1: in the gym. I talk about how I like to read.
- 20:54Speaker 1: I talk about, you know, school. Like, I talk about everything,
- 20:57Speaker 1: you know? I diss a couple people.
- 20:59Speaker 2: You diss a couple people?
- 21:01Speaker 1: You have a diss track? Yeah. I got a diss
- 21:04Speaker 1: track to my mom. This is the most, wow.
- 21:07Speaker 2: This is a couple people, one of them being her mom.
- 21:09Speaker 2: My mom, my dad.
- 21:10Speaker 1: They're getting whooped on there.
- 21:11Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie. Oh, wow.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Both parents. Combo. Yeah, they getting whooped.
- 21:17Speaker 3: For those of you listening and not watching, the glow
- 21:21Speaker 3: that she had on her face talking about this diss
- 21:23Speaker 3: track to her parents.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Very proud of that.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Yes, I'm very proud. I think it's such a great song. Yeah,
- 21:29Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think I'm saying a lot
- 21:32Speaker 1: of things for people who can't. I think I serve
- 21:34Speaker 1: as a proxy for others who aren't able to be
- 21:38Speaker 1: so passionate about their feelings towards music. their mom or
- 21:41Speaker 1: their dad or their best friend or whatever the case
- 21:43Speaker 1: may be and I take it very seriously I don't
- 21:45Speaker 1: take it for granted so um I'm just using my
- 21:49Speaker 1: art to you know do that be a proxy and
- 21:54Speaker 1: of course it's my own story but I think I
- 21:55Speaker 1: represent so many women like me and I'm really excited
- 21:58Speaker 1: about it and I love it and everybody else seems
- 22:01Speaker 1: to really love it and yeah Your level of awareness
- 22:05Speaker 1: is extremely admirable. Thank you.
- 22:07Speaker 3: And resonating with your audience is something that you really
- 22:10Speaker 3: have to be aware of, of what your target segmentations are.
- 22:12Speaker 1: For sure. So the fact that you.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Know your audience, you know what they're going to resonate with,
- 22:17Speaker 3: and you have that comfortability to reach them through your craft,
- 22:21Speaker 3: that's powerful.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I am my audience. I know that
- 22:25Speaker 1: I am a reflection of who listens to me, you know?
- 22:30Speaker 1: So if.
- 22:32Speaker 1: I'm going around and I'm seeing things that don't mean nothing.
- 22:35Speaker 1: I'm not going to mean nothing to nobody, you know?
- 22:37Speaker 1: So there's going to be a little piece of me
- 22:39Speaker 1: in every girl, you know, whether it's the fact that
- 22:41Speaker 1: I wear my hair braids or the fact that I'm
- 22:43Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, the fact that I'm Afro-Latina, the fact that
- 22:45Speaker 1: I like to read, I went to school. Like there's
- 22:48Speaker 1: so many interesting things of me that I can put
- 22:52Speaker 1: into my music and that's going to reflect on who listens.
- 22:55Speaker 1: So a girl going to hear and be like, girl, hey,
- 22:58Speaker 1: my mom too, turn it up.
- 23:00Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about?
- 23:01Speaker 1: Girl, I like to read this book too.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Turn it up.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Or they're going to say, hey, you know what? I
- 23:06Speaker 1: play soccer. Turn this song on. And it's going to
- 23:08Speaker 1: be great. So that's always my goal is to connect
- 23:12Speaker 1: with my audience because who am I without them? You know? Facts.
- 23:17Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
- 23:18Speaker 2: That is all of us.
- 23:19Speaker 1: How do we become part of this book club? Oh
- 23:21Speaker 1: my gosh. I should have bought you a book, Mar.
- 23:23Speaker 3: How do we integrate ourselves into this book club?
- 23:27Speaker 1: I read. Okay. Yes, I'm actually reading the first 90 days.
- 23:30Speaker 1: I read it every time I start a new project. Really?
- 23:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Look at that. It was a gift.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Shout out to Man City. The head of marketing gifted
- 23:38Speaker 3: it to me when I started my new job.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Do you only do, like, self-help?
- 23:43Speaker 2: No.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Okay. What do you like to read? Stephen King is
- 23:47Speaker 1: one of my favorite authors. Okay. Yeah. Okay, I never
- 23:51Speaker 1: read anything about him. Fantasy. Okay.
- 23:53Speaker 2: How about you? What do you like to read? Yeah.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Tell us some of your favorite books.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't... Like The Shining, all that.
- 24:00Speaker 2: I can't.
- 24:01Speaker 1: I don't do nothing scary. The scariest I get... Girl,
- 24:04Speaker 1: it's good because you can just close the book if
- 24:06Speaker 1: it's too scary, you know?
- 24:07Speaker 2: Yeah. Then the thoughts are stuck in your head.
- 24:09Speaker 1: Exactly. And now I can't sleep. No, you leave it
- 24:10Speaker 1: with the book. You just leave it. You put it there. No,
- 24:12Speaker 1: not me.
- 24:13Speaker 3: The team smiling in the background, they know.
- 24:15Speaker 1: You just set it aside. I'll read until I fall asleep.
- 24:18Speaker 1: And I read a lot of like urban romance or
- 24:20Speaker 1: urban fiction. Oh, interesting. Girl, I'll fall asleep and... I
- 24:23Speaker 1: be in a shootout and then I wake up and
- 24:25Speaker 1: gotta pee. Girl, I'm telling you. I just told myself, like,
- 24:29Speaker 1: no more reading before bed. I gotta stop 25 minutes
- 24:32Speaker 1: before bed because... I just read a thriller. It was
- 24:37Speaker 1: like a whodunit thriller. Oh, those are fun. Right? The
- 24:41Speaker 1: ones that you could read from back to front or
- 24:43Speaker 1: front to back. Yeah, it was so good. Oh my God.
- 24:44Speaker 1: I was literally dreaming that it was me who did it.
- 24:47Speaker 1: I thought I was going to go to jail. I
- 24:49Speaker 1: woke up in a cold sweat like, no, don't take
- 24:51Speaker 1: me to prison. And I was like, oh wait, I'm
- 24:53Speaker 1: in my bed, so it's good.
- 24:54Speaker 2: No.
- 24:57Speaker 1: I love your energy. I can't do a word. We're
- 25:01Speaker 1: hanging out with Maya.
- 25:03Speaker 2: For sure.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Yeah, the fine print, I started it because I was like,
- 25:06Speaker 1: another thing with my audience, I was like being very
- 25:10Speaker 1: vigilant about the types of things that I was posting
- 25:12Speaker 1: and seeing on the internet because I want to be
- 25:17Speaker 1: intentional about the audience that I'm curating. And I don't
- 25:20Speaker 1: want to just be, you know, saying all types of
- 25:22Speaker 1: stuff that maybe six years later won't represent who I am.
- 25:25Speaker 1: I'm not the same person I was 15 minutes ago.
- 25:27Speaker 1: So I don't want to say something in a year.
- 25:30Speaker 1: I'm like, why did you do that? You know, we're
- 25:33Speaker 1: constantly evolving. Exactly. So I was like, you know, something
- 25:37Speaker 1: I will talk about on the Internet or posts or
- 25:39Speaker 1: whatever is going to be about these books that I
- 25:41Speaker 1: really enjoy. Yeah. And it was just about.
- 25:43Speaker 2: I think reading in general is such a good thing
- 25:45Speaker 2: to push.
- 25:45Speaker 1: It's a great habit. You were reading a script before
- 25:48Speaker 1: we started. You read every day.
- 25:49Speaker 2: Well, you know, just in general, I think more people
- 25:52Speaker 2: need to get into it.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:54Speaker 2: It needs to be out there in front of you.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Yes. We are in a severe literacy crisis.
- 25:58Speaker 2: And I love the fact for the younger audience and
- 25:59Speaker 2: the younger youth and the people coming up that you're
- 26:01Speaker 2: pushing that.
- 26:01Speaker 1: Right. No, it's important.
- 26:02Speaker 2: When I came up, it wasn't getting pushed.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Right.
- 26:04Speaker 2: Like school and things like that when I was young
- 26:06Speaker 2: in music and in hip hop weren't something that was
- 26:09Speaker 2: being pushed.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:10Speaker 2: You know, so the fact that it's being pushed now
- 26:13Speaker 2: is amazing.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's something I'm really passionate about, especially like
- 26:16Speaker 1: as someone who went to school and like. You know,
- 26:18Speaker 1: I just love to read. It's great entertainment. I stopped
- 26:20Speaker 1: watching TV. So I was like, I need something to do,
- 26:23Speaker 1: you know?
- 26:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:24Speaker 1: So I wanted to, you know, build my audience and
- 26:27Speaker 1: also platform these authors. Black women specifically are being published
- 26:33Speaker 1: at a far less rate than their counterparts. And I
- 26:38Speaker 1: don't think it's fair. And I'm like, well, I have
- 26:41Speaker 1: this big platform. The least I can do is that,
- 26:43Speaker 1: you know, because we have to support each other. This
- 26:46Speaker 1: is how you, you know. You want to see black
- 26:48Speaker 1: women and Afro-Latina and women in stores, in any positioning, right?
- 26:53Speaker 1: That's in any form of entertainment. So you want to
- 26:56Speaker 1: see them writing movies and acting in movies, in fashion
- 27:02Speaker 1: and media, like anything, like we have to put them there.
- 27:05Speaker 1: So if I want to walk into a Barnes &
- 27:06Speaker 1: Noble and see, you know, a Jacquel Jay or a
- 27:10Speaker 1: Casey Mills in the store, then I have to talk
- 27:13Speaker 1: about them so that, you know, the publisher who follows
- 27:16Speaker 1: me can be like, oh, I never heard about this girl.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Let me go look into her. And the next thing
- 27:20Speaker 1: you know, she got a book in store. You know
- 27:22Speaker 1: what I'm saying? So, like, that was really important to
- 27:24Speaker 1: me as well. So I started to just talk about it. And, girl,
- 27:29Speaker 1: it's a whole new world. Just like Arielle said. It
- 27:33Speaker 1: is beautiful. It's amazing. And I love them. And I
- 27:36Speaker 1: love all the authors. And they inspire me so, so much. I, like,
- 27:39Speaker 1: read a lot. So, like, these books be so good.
- 27:43Speaker 1: I want to pull my hair out. I be like...
- 27:45Speaker 1: and then it would be like you ever see yourself
- 27:47Speaker 1: writing a book heck yeah oh heck yeah you should
- 27:50Speaker 1: get into it I told myself I was gonna go
- 27:51Speaker 1: and take a creative writing course in school so I
- 27:54Speaker 1: could like be good at it because I don't want
- 27:55Speaker 1: to put no I don't want to put out no
- 27:57Speaker 1: dud you know what I'm saying I'm trying to put
- 27:59Speaker 1: out a New York Times bestseller Oprah's List Reese Witherspoon
- 28:03Speaker 1: book club okay talk about it fine print book club
- 28:05Speaker 1: approved that's what I need that's what I'm working on
- 28:07Speaker 1: now actually I want to figure out how I'm gonna
- 28:10Speaker 1: get To Reese Witherspoon. You know how she got the
- 28:12Speaker 1: stamp on the book? Yes. I need my stamp. Who
- 28:15Speaker 1: going to be fine print approved? Like, who did that?
- 28:17Speaker 1: Somebody got to let me know who was talking to
- 28:19Speaker 1: Reese and them and Oprah. Two-year research. Find their people. Yeah,
- 28:23Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to find the people who did that.
- 28:25Speaker 1: Because my book club got a lot of members. We
- 28:28Speaker 1: have a lot of members. I have 3,000 members online
- 28:30Speaker 1: right now.
- 28:31Speaker 2: That's great.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Like, active people who are reading the book and we're
- 28:34Speaker 1: talking about books all the time. So, I think that's
- 28:37Speaker 1: a pretty big deal. I don't know. And I just
- 28:39Speaker 1: started it, so.
- 28:40Speaker 2: It's only going to grow.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Yeah. Reese, call me, girl.
- 28:43Speaker 2: How do people get on it for the people listening
- 28:44Speaker 2: right now?
- 28:45Speaker 1: Oh, you can follow her on Instagram at fineprint.collective. And
- 28:48Speaker 1: then all the information is up on the page. So
- 28:50Speaker 1: as soon as you go and find it. I need
- 28:53Speaker 1: to get a website, too, for the people who don't
- 28:56Speaker 1: got the.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Social media, like the IGs.
- 28:58Speaker 1: The people who think they're cooler than us because they
- 29:01Speaker 1: don't got Instagram. I'm not. I hate those people. Oh,
- 29:03Speaker 1: I'm not on IG.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Oh, okay, whatever, girl.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Like, move. This is the 21st century, girl. Get on it.
- 29:09Speaker 2: But you also have older people who may want to
- 29:12Speaker 2: be involved.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I got.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Who don't want to be in social media.
- 29:15Speaker 1: I got a 63-year-old girl in my book club. She
- 29:18Speaker 1: got every type of social media app there is, okay?
- 29:20Speaker 2: Oh, we know. We talk about this.
- 29:23Speaker 1: We know.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Our mothers are all over it.
- 29:25Speaker 1: My great-grandmother is 76, and she liked to gossip. She
- 29:29Speaker 1: always called me, like, girl, guess who won the Olympic?
- 29:31Speaker 1: I'd be like, girl, stop.
- 29:33Speaker 2: Well, that's the news for them.
- 29:35Speaker 1: Yeah, social media hurts. She loves Facebook. Like, I totally stopped.
- 29:39Speaker 1: I don't know. My mom still watches the Primera Impacto, but,
- 29:41Speaker 1: you know.
- 29:42Speaker 2: You've got to remember, our parents are the ones who kept, like,
- 29:44Speaker 2: newspapers and.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Those kind of things live. No, my granddad, he'd be
- 29:47Speaker 1: reading the paper.
- 29:48Speaker 2: They're the ones who, now, all those things are gone.
- 29:51Speaker 2: So social media is the platform.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Exactly. My great-granddad still reads the paper. I'm like, yo,
- 29:55Speaker 1: your eyes are shot. Like, you can't see that. I
- 29:57Speaker 1: know you can't see that. Why are you pretending like
- 29:58Speaker 1: you can't? That and wrestling. He keeping them in business.
- 30:01Speaker 3: It was definitely a difference when I switched from tangible
- 30:04Speaker 3: newspapers and my subscriptions to then digital.
- 30:07Speaker 1: It's different. Dang, I should get that. I'm like, I
- 30:11Speaker 1: don't want to know the news, please. I'm scared. I'm like,
- 30:14Speaker 1: I told the line between being hypervigilant and like, don't
- 30:18Speaker 1: even tell me, you know? Like, ignorance is blaze. Sometimes
- 30:22Speaker 1: you need a break.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why I go into my book world.
- 30:24Speaker 2: You get over-consumed.
- 30:25Speaker 1: I literally, that's why you go in the book world.
- 30:28Speaker 1: There's no news in my book. And then it's misinformation.
- 30:31Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things going on with that.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Everyone's saying a different story. Depends who you're listening to.
- 30:37Speaker 1: All different vantage points and perspectives. But you know who
- 30:40Speaker 1: don't got that? Kennedy Ryan. I don't got a vote
- 30:45Speaker 1: in Kennedy Ryan's book.
- 30:46Speaker 2: I know.
- 30:47Speaker 1: It's not even a real place. And that's what I like. No,
- 30:52Speaker 1: don't do that, guys.
- 30:53Speaker 3: I love the imagination.
- 30:56Speaker 2: What?
- 30:56Speaker 1: The imagination soaring. You're so creative. Yes.
- 30:59Speaker 2: And so artistic.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Listen, I love watching a movie. I love this. And
- 31:02Speaker 1: then I blink and then it's just words on my Kindle. Yeah.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Why are you looking at me like that? You're just
- 31:10Speaker 1: so bubbly.
- 31:11Speaker 2: I love it. But that's what being a good reader is.
- 31:13Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what Toni Morrison said. Like,
- 31:17Speaker 1: when you can see it, you're reading. Or when you
- 31:19Speaker 1: don't know what you're reading, then you're reading. That's what
- 31:21Speaker 1: she said. You know, she said if you read some
- 31:23Speaker 1: of her nonfiction stuff, she talks about why she writes
- 31:26Speaker 1: the way she does. I don't know if you've ever
- 31:28Speaker 1: read a Toni Morrison book, but I can only read
- 31:31Speaker 1: three pages at a time. Toni Morrison makes me feel
- 31:34Speaker 1: like I'm dyslexic. Like, I don't know what's going on.
- 31:36Speaker 1: I'd be like, in the beginning, what? I go, hey, girl,
- 31:41Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know
- 31:43Speaker 1: what she be talking about. It takes me 15 minutes
- 31:45Speaker 1: to read one page by Soni Morrison. But she said
- 31:48Speaker 1: that's reading. And she talks about in her nonfiction that
- 31:51Speaker 1: she writes that way to force people to be proactive
- 31:55Speaker 1: and to, you know, engage.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Figure the words out and stuff like that.
- 31:57Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Oh, she like misspells words and things like that?
- 31:59Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. It's just written so incredibly.
- 32:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it.
- 32:03Speaker 1: It's so good.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Do you have a, like, I always have like a
- 32:05Speaker 3: notepad on the side to write down words and things
- 32:07Speaker 3: and highlight. And then go back and I look at, stop, bro.
- 32:11Speaker 1: No, you have to. With Toni Morrison, you have to.
- 32:14Speaker 1: I promise you, like, I don't care how smart you
- 32:17Speaker 1: think you are. Toni Morrison going to have you stumped
- 32:19Speaker 1: by eight words in. I'm telling you. You're going to
- 32:22Speaker 1: be like, what is she talking about? You know what
- 32:25Speaker 1: I mean? What does this paragraph mean? But that's what
- 32:28Speaker 1: reading is. Listen, we look forward to having you back
- 32:31Speaker 1: with your book.
- 32:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:33Speaker 1: When I start writing.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Yes.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to be on my sister's ideas.
- 32:37Speaker 3: I'm going to start DMing you once a month and
- 32:39Speaker 3: be like, what's the progress?
- 32:40Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Savannah, slow down.
- 32:44Speaker 1: You ain't hear me say I just dropped the project, girl.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Wait a minute. No, not yet. I got to wait,
- 32:51Speaker 1: I got to wait, I got to wait. Not yet,
- 32:53Speaker 1: but it's coming soon. When I take my creative writing course,
- 32:55Speaker 1: that's when I'll call you, profesora.
- 32:57Speaker 2: I'm glad that you're doing it right, though. That's how
- 33:01Speaker 2: you know she really wants to do it the right way.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't do anything.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Instead of just randomly saying, I'm going to do it
- 33:06Speaker 2: just to do it.
- 33:06Speaker 1: No, no, no. I would do it just to do it,
- 33:09Speaker 1: but I have some integrity. But I would do it
- 33:12Speaker 1: for the money. You're wrong. Hey, publishers, if you're listening.
- 33:19Speaker 1: I'll get the writing tomorrow. I'll get better in time.
- 33:22Speaker 2: We'll figure this out together.
- 33:25Speaker 3: In true Teach Me Something fashion, if you could describe
- 33:30Speaker 3: your legacy in one word, what would that word be?
- 33:37Speaker 1: My legacy?
- 33:38Speaker 2: Yes.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Can I make one first? I'm like.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Just getting started?
- 33:44Speaker 1: Yeah, you know? I feel like... Yeah, like I'm only 23,
- 33:50Speaker 1: so I don't. Maybe like my dog? No. Dang, I
- 33:55Speaker 1: don't know.
- 33:56Speaker 3: What do you want people to remember you by?
- 34:01Speaker 2: For where you're at right now.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Yeah, where you're at right now. Tenacious, I would say.
- 34:07Speaker 1: I like that. I was really tenacious.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Tenacious is good.
- 34:10Speaker 1: That's a good one.
- 34:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:11Speaker 3: Let's just a round of applause for being 23 years
- 34:15Speaker 3: old and everything you have accomplished and what you're continuing
- 34:18Speaker 3: to accomplish.
- 34:19Speaker 1: I know, kind of chic, right?
- 34:21Speaker 3: The world is at your palms and we wish you
- 34:25Speaker 3: the best of luck in everything that you do.
- 34:26Speaker 2: You're just getting started.
- 34:27Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate you, friends. I love it. Well,
- 34:32Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in.
- 34:32Speaker 2: That's right. I am ProStyle.
- 34:34Speaker 3: I am Penny Tellis. And you can catch us on
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- 34:41Speaker 3: by Berkeley College.
- 34:42Speaker 2: Holler.
- 34:44Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening. Tune in next week.
- 34:46Speaker 2: For our all new episode of Teach Me Something.
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