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🚨FREE AGENT SIGNING🚨 Instant reaction to the Pirates adding Marcell Ozuna · Bucco Territory: A Pittsburgh Pirates Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory, presented to
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  Speaker 2: you by the Foul Territory Network.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Noah Hiles.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me as always are my co hosts Platinum Key
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  Speaker 2: aka Mark and Josh Harrison akaj hey Fellas. We come
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  Speaker 2: to this viewing audience with breaking news. Overnight after we
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  Speaker 2: were all sleeping off that horrible performance by the New
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  Speaker 2: England Patriots in the Super Bowl, the Pirates signed Marcelo
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  Speaker 2: Zuna to a one year, twelve million dollar contract with
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  Speaker 2: a mutual option worth sixteen million dollars in twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: He looks to probably be their final significant edition of
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  Speaker 2: the off season. So this show, in addition to be
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  Speaker 2: a breaking news reaction, will be kind of our analysis
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  Speaker 2: on the off season as a whole. But before we
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  Speaker 2: get into the big picture, just want to get your
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  Speaker 2: instant thoughts on this signing.
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  Speaker 1: We'll start with Mark.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my first thought is, so, I guess Andrew McCutcheon
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  Speaker 3: is not going to be a Pirate this year. That
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  Speaker 3: was my first initial thought. And I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: nice having some power, but I'm concerned about Zina's thirty
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  Speaker 3: five is is he going to continue to decline? So
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of my next thought. What about you, Josh.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously first thought was definitely, you know, dampens the you know,
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  Speaker 4: the the light on possible Cutch return. But also it
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  Speaker 4: does address what we've always said is power. But the
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  Speaker 4: flip side of that, we can dive more into it
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  Speaker 4: is a you know, at at what cost is at
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  Speaker 4: with defense because you know, originally we had talked O'Hearn,
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  Speaker 4: you know, taking the bulk of dh at bats. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think you're signing Marcel Zona with twelve years in
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  Speaker 4: a mutual option to you know, just get half of
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  Speaker 4: those dh at bats. Yeah, that was my next thought.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of where I am.
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  Speaker 2: I think my overall take away here on Ozuna is
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  Speaker 2: this was the best that they could get right now
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  Speaker 2: in free agency. They tried for so many guys, and
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  Speaker 2: I guess we can just start the breakdown into it now.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at this Pirates off season.
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  Speaker 2: I just wrote a column on it, which you can
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  Speaker 2: read at postash because at dot com. The lead of
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  Speaker 2: the column, the first sentence was a quote, you get
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  Speaker 2: what you get and you don't get upset. That was
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  Speaker 2: kind of the synopsis of the Pirates off season where
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  Speaker 2: they beggars could not be choosers because of the way
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  Speaker 2: they went about their business for however, many years in
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  Speaker 2: the past, they were not a priority, and they made
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  Speaker 2: it clear that they were going to try, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that effort was clear. They were legitimately in on
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  Speaker 2: a handful of real difference making talents, and almost every
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  Speaker 2: single one of those talents used the Pirates interest as
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  Speaker 2: leverage to sign with a team that's had more success
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  Speaker 2: recently than the Pirates. I mean it started with Josh Naylor,
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  Speaker 2: who he used the pirate Its interest as leverage before
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  Speaker 2: they could even extend him a formal offer. Then Kyle
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  Speaker 2: Schwarber did it, and then they made a trade for
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Law and that was enough to entice Ryan O'Hearn
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  Speaker 2: to sign with the Pirates, and it looked like things
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  Speaker 2: were coming together. But when they got to a position
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  Speaker 2: where the needs weren't as wide ranged, where they had
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  Speaker 2: to really lock in and say, okay, we need some
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  Speaker 2: specific things now, we can't just shop for offense, they
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get it done. Both of the international guys Okamoto
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  Speaker 2: and or is it Yeah and more COMMI both of
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  Speaker 2: those guys were not interested in the Pirates Gino Suarez.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Pirates probably expressed more open interest than
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  Speaker 2: Gino Suarez throughout this winter than any other team in baseball.
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  Speaker 1: But the Pirates.
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  Speaker 2: Sources even said, like team sources even said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't come down to money, It came down to interest,
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  Speaker 2: and they weren't willing to overpay to negate that stigma.
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  Speaker 2: So they got to a position where they couldn't address
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  Speaker 2: team specific need and they needed to get something in
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  Speaker 2: order to improve the offense.
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  Speaker 1: So now what you have is an addition at the
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  Speaker 1: right side of the plate.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, I think he is the best right
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  Speaker 2: handed hitter that was available in free agency right now.
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  Speaker 2: But this addition, as Josh noted, it might make your
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  Speaker 2: other additions lesser due to the sum of the entire hole. Because,
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  Speaker 2: as Josh noted, if Ozuna is going to be your
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  Speaker 2: everyday DH, where does that put Ryan O'Hearn.
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  Speaker 1: Does it put him at first base? And if that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, you're taking.
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  Speaker 2: A at bats away from Spencer Horowitz, who is your
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  Speaker 2: best hitter last year. You could maybe play him at
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  Speaker 2: second base, but oh yeah, you just acquired an All
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  Speaker 2: star to play there, and you also have Nick gon Zalez,
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  Speaker 2: who's a better second baseman, so it's.
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  Speaker 1: Not going to come there.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other option is playing O'Hearn in the outfield.
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  Speaker 2: Ohearn has only played twenty nine games in the outfield.
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  Speaker 2: That's the most he's played in a major league season.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's played one hundred and one games total,
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  Speaker 2: but he's never had a major league season where he's
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  Speaker 2: appeared more.
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  Speaker 1: Than twenty nine times in the outfield.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna make that one of your primary outfielders, and
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  Speaker 2: in return, that's probably going to mean Brian Reynolds moving
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  Speaker 2: back over to left. Brian Reynolds is one of the
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  Speaker 2: worst defensive outfielders in baseball. He's been at a rapid decline,
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  Speaker 2: and you're gonna move him from right field, the easiest
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  Speaker 2: place probably anywhere to play in penc Park, to left field,
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  Speaker 2: which is probably the most difficult left field to play
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  Speaker 2: in Major League baseball. And with those additional responsibilities, you
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  Speaker 2: have to wonder is Ryan orharn gonna be as productive
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  Speaker 2: as a hitter as an everyday right fielder compared to
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  Speaker 2: playing in a position that he is most comfortable in.
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  Speaker 2: And for a guy that was acquired strictly for offense.
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  Speaker 2: That's a concern. Brian Reynolds. Is he going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Able to produce at a rate that you need him
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  Speaker 1: to in left field?
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  Speaker 2: Heck he It felt like the defense wore down his
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  Speaker 2: offensive abilities in right field last year. So if your
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  Speaker 2: two highest paid position players reduce offensively because of this addition,
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  Speaker 2: how much better is your team getting? I get that overall,
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  Speaker 2: this is a problem the Pirates would like to have
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  Speaker 2: compared to the problems they had last year. Last year,
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  Speaker 2: they were just struggling to find nine worthy major league hitters.
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  Speaker 2: Now they had to find their best nine hitter. To
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  Speaker 2: find a way to get their best nine hitters in
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  Speaker 2: a lineup that doesn't completely compromise the team's greatest strength,
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  Speaker 2: which is pitching. I don't know how they do that.
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  Speaker 2: All open the floor up to suggestions.
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  Speaker 4: I'll start because as you're going on, you know, just Bill,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sitting here analyzing things, and it is I can't
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  Speaker 4: speak for him, but is it the flip side of yes,
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  Speaker 4: you have this offensive lineup that looks better. Are they
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  Speaker 4: thinking of trying to shorten the game and by inning
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  Speaker 4: seven use the bullpen and defensive replacements. And I'll be
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  Speaker 4: honest not to compare it, but I was a part
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  Speaker 4: of a team that operated that way. But that was
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  Speaker 4: back when those National League rules where you could flip
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  Speaker 4: the line them. You could will switch. Ryan O'Hearn moving
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  Speaker 4: to the outfield. To me is like Garrett Jones. Garrett
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  Speaker 4: Jones was flip flopped. They were based off of our lineup,
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  Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I think Garrett was more of
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  Speaker 4: a natural outfielder, but sometimes our lineup calls for him
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  Speaker 4: to go to first base, which was a little different,
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  Speaker 4: which is the flip. But anytime you got guys that
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  Speaker 4: are playing, I don't want a little bit out of position.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes it can affect offense because defense, that's the one
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  Speaker 4: thing that you're like, well, I don't want to lose
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  Speaker 4: a game defensively because I mean, I know I may
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  Speaker 4: be out of position, but nobody wants to make an
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  Speaker 4: error that they're all that's gonna cost the game. You know,
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  Speaker 4: guys really take pride in not wanting to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: make pitchers have to throw extra pitches. As you said,
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  Speaker 4: no highlighting the pitching staff is just a move that
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  Speaker 4: with what you have, are they banking on you know,
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  Speaker 4: getting a lead through seven ins and going to the bullpen.
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  Speaker 4: But even if you do that, you shorten your lineup
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  Speaker 4: and somebody that you have paid is not getting that
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  Speaker 4: fourth at bat. So you see what I'm saying, If
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  Speaker 4: that's the way, or are you going to play nine
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  Speaker 4: straight innings with a defense that you're hoping is gonna
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  Speaker 4: be overshadowed by an offense that puts up a lot
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  Speaker 4: of runs in a park that is not the greatest
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  Speaker 4: hit or friendly. But things still remain to be seen.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know if that's a situation where they're
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  Speaker 4: trying to do the reverse where we were gonna try
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  Speaker 4: to jump out and by inning seven make defensive replacements.
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  Speaker 4: As I said, I played on the team that operated
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  Speaker 4: that way, and we could get leads, but it's baseball.
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  Speaker 4: What happens when they tied up and you look in
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  Speaker 4: the ninth inning, you're like, oh man, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: wish you know he had another at bat to change
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  Speaker 4: the game. And that's that's a situation where you're trading
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  Speaker 4: offense for defense. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: defense wins games, but offense is going to be up
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  Speaker 4: and down. But I don't know if it's a situation where,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, they can't be choosy. They got what
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  Speaker 4: they got and they're gonna have to make most of it.
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  Speaker 2: So Mark, I wanted to ask you, I mean, Josh
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  Speaker 2: brought up kind of another point I wanted to make
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  Speaker 2: that you know, you might be trying to sacrifice a
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  Speaker 2: little defense for offense here. Is this offense good enough
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  Speaker 2: to do that? Or is this a team that still
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  Speaker 2: needs to win on the margins, because I think it is.
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  Speaker 2: I think that, yes, you've got your offense to a
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  Speaker 2: point where it's about league average now, but that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean that you can just get by by having bad defense, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was one of the strengths of this
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  Speaker 3: team last year is they played great defense behind fantastic pitching,
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  Speaker 3: and that's how they got to be so close in
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  Speaker 3: those one run games consistently, and so you needed the
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  Speaker 3: offensive upgrades to get you over the hump. But seems
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  Speaker 3: like they've sacrificed that defensive benefit that they had to
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  Speaker 3: get to this offense. So it's how much of a benefit,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, Noah, are they actually getting from this.
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  Speaker 3: And that was one of the big concerns with Cutch
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  Speaker 3: was if you're gonna sign him and have him DH
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  Speaker 3: all the time, that's gonna take a lot away from
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  Speaker 3: this team because you can't have Oharne filling and you
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  Speaker 3: can't have Reynolds taking a day off at DH and
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  Speaker 3: so just piling on these guys and asking them to
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  Speaker 3: go out and be consistent outfielders every day is that's
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  Speaker 3: a big ass. So I don't know. It's nice to
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  Speaker 3: at least have Ozuna. He does bring more than just power.
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  Speaker 3: His walk rate has been close to the top of
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  Speaker 3: the league. I think it's just behind like Judge and Sodo,
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  Speaker 3: So he does draw a lot more walks recently in
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  Speaker 3: just the last couple of years, so you're getting a
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  Speaker 3: benefit there as well. But yeah, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: this offense is good enough yet. I mean, they added
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  Speaker 3: three All Stars. They there's way at least six guys
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  Speaker 3: that would have been the best hit around this team
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  Speaker 3: that they've added now. So it's improved, but it would
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  Speaker 3: have helped if they got a guy like Gino Suarez instead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said at the beginning, this was the
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  Speaker 2: best they could do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, the best.
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  Speaker 1: Right. If you had to pick, you had to pick
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  Speaker 1: your best fit.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean the reality is it looks a little
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  Speaker 2: crowded right now, but Josh knows this all too well.
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  Speaker 1: A team that you enter camp with is not the
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  Speaker 1: same team that you leave camp. There are going to
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  Speaker 1: be injuries.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at last year at this time,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was like to this day, actually, I
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  Speaker 2: was getting a call from sources about Spencer Horowitz having
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  Speaker 2: just underwent surgery on his wrist, and this big offseason
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  Speaker 2: acquisition that was going to be their staple at first
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  Speaker 2: base was out for the first six weeks of the
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  Speaker 2: regular season. And then they lose Nick Gonzalez to a
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  Speaker 2: broken ankle on opening Day, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: your right side of the infield's completely wiped away. Now
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  Speaker 2: you have a little bit more leeway with that right
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  Speaker 2: You can afford to have an injury at first base,
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  Speaker 2: at second base, at pretty much any outfield spot.
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  Speaker 1: But I still look at.
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  Speaker 2: Third base and I wonder, I mean, who can play
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  Speaker 2: that position other than Jared Triolo, who can play it
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  Speaker 2: well defensively, but I just I mean, if he goes down,
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  Speaker 2: is it Nick and Zalez?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, like not remarkably well, like not
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  Speaker 2: consistently not well Like. That's the thing now where I
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  Speaker 2: still feel like their issues at third. I mean, offensively,
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  Speaker 2: they might have been a race by adding this right
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  Speaker 2: handed power, but I still think they need to make
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  Speaker 2: another new move for infield depth because if, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: you never want to enter season where you only have
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  Speaker 2: one guy that can truly play, and so we saw
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  Speaker 2: what happened last.
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  Speaker 4: Year, and especially especially if Triolo is a guy that
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  Speaker 4: can bounce around too. Obviously, I know you said he's
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  Speaker 4: gold glove, you know, ready at third base, But like Sill,
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  Speaker 4: we still don't know what they're gonna do with Connor Griffin.
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  Speaker 4: That short stuff. What if kind of starts in triple A?
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  Speaker 4: So then do you move Triolo to short, which then
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  Speaker 4: puts you at who's going to play third? But then
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  Speaker 4: if he's playing third, who's gonna play short? Which I
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  Speaker 4: know that's a lot of questions for Nick Gonzalez or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: But as you said, they need to find another you know,
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  Speaker 4: defender that can play all three of those positions. And
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  Speaker 4: my if you ask me, because one of the things
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  Speaker 4: we talked about through this, you know, whole off season
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  Speaker 4: with signings and you know you're good at getting, you know,
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  Speaker 4: making these signs, but you also got to be as
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  Speaker 4: good as your depth. And depth is only going to
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  Speaker 4: carry you so far. And right now, the depth on
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  Speaker 4: that left side of the infield is scary.
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  Speaker 2: Just the left side in general, I mean left field
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  Speaker 2: depth is I mean, who in the world is even
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  Speaker 2: gonna play left field? Like you have a great defensive
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  Speaker 2: left field or and Mangham but seems like he's the
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  Speaker 2: odd man out right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, after the seventh when they got the lead, Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 4: he goes left and Rentals goes the right. But then
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  Speaker 4: you're taking that bad away from o'harne or you're taking
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  Speaker 4: that bad away from Reynolds and horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that's why I said, you end up taking your
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  Speaker 4: trading offense for defense. But then at the same time,
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  Speaker 4: the money that you spent for some of these guys
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  Speaker 4: to get at bats might be taken away because you're
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  Speaker 4: trying to shorten the game. Baseball is unpredictable.
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  Speaker 3: We know that So one other thought I had after though,
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  Speaker 3: soon as signing, is how does this impact the Pirates
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  Speaker 3: interest in East Sikkarates because he has I think a
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  Speaker 3: nine million dollar contract for this year. Yeah, that's probably done,
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  Speaker 3: and so I could does yeah, yeah, and which is
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  Speaker 3: because the Red Sox just traded for Caleb Durbin. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Baserman from the Porkers, and the Red Sox were another
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  Speaker 3: team that was interested in Prady's but obviously I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he makes sense for the Pirates with their budget.
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  Speaker 2: So no, and I mean I think that now, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's still holes to be filled.
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  Speaker 1: I still think they could add starting pitching depth.
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  Speaker 2: I still I mean, you have a lot of young,
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  Speaker 2: exciting arms, but three of the guys factoring into this, Ashcraft, Jones,
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  Speaker 2: and Barco, all have had arm surgeries in the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of years and they're all under twenty five years old.
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  Speaker 1: So that's scary.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to count on those guys to cover
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty innings, right, And if that's the case,
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  Speaker 2: then you're you feel comfortable asking Schemes and Mitch to
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  Speaker 2: do it because they can have.
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  Speaker 1: Done it before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But after that, I mean you're juggling a lot
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  Speaker 2: of innings to cover, and that two or that three
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  Speaker 2: through five spot in the rotation, and if one of
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: those guys regresses, one of those guys gets injured, now
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  Speaker 2: you're depending on prospects to cover those innings. So I
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: do think they could add a little bit more to
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the rotation just so you have that surplus. And yeah,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I think their offensive depth is remarkably better, oh yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: than it was last year.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: But their defensive depth, i'd argue, is maybe worse.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if their pitching depth is as
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: deep in either the bullpen or the starting rotation, so
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: it'll be interesting. It's definitely, I think, an overall better
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: lineup than what we saw in twenty twenty five. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: don't know how this puzzle comes together and forms a
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: playoff team just yet, so that's where.
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  Speaker 1: I'll leave it.
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• 18:18
  Speaker 2: territory merch guys. Any final thoughts before we wrap this up?
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Uh? Not really, just curious to see what possible moves
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: may be left because I still think something needs to
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: be done. So there's what pictures and catchers report here
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: pretty soon. But yeah, but we still know things happen before,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: during spring train, and after. But I'm curious to see
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: because there's got to be something else in store if
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: you ask me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see the final pieces, but overall
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: it's an encouraging offseason and excited to see what they do.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess my final note would be I
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: think Ben Charrington had a good offseason. I don't know
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: if the Pirates as a whole had a good offseason,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: but based off the circumstances that he had to deal with,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: and granted part of that is due to his own creation,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: his inability to get the most out of trades in
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: recent years, but it was pretty clear that his budget
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: was around one hundred and ten million. I think it's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a like one hundred and seven million is what payroll
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: is now or one hundred and eight after this signing,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: so they pretty much spent every dollar they could have.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: They added some all stars.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: They added three guys who hit twenty plus home runs
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: last year. They only had one of those guys on
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the team last year, so they achieved I guess the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: overall goal, which is to add offense, but it came
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: at a very unique way. It came via a very
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: unique way, and it was a lot more difficult than
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: it probably needed to be because of people above Ben Charrington.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: So that's how I'll wrap it up. He's Josh Harrison,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for tuning in to another episode of Bucko Territory,
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