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Life Lessons On Besties, Career & Finances · Two Broke Chicks

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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land Always was, always
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Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land.
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Speaker 2: Hey chicks, I'm sale and I'm Out.
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Speaker 3: This is two broke chicks to show that shares life
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Speaker 3: lessons and tips to help make you rich in life.
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Speaker 2: And today we are joined by kate Lelamico. Welcome, Hello,
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Speaker 2: all the way from New York just for this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's actually what I feel. We know it.
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Speaker 3: We are so excited because we've been following you for
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Speaker 3: a long time. For any of the chicks who aren't
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Speaker 3: across your content. You do a lot of content around
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Speaker 3: your moved to New York, but you're also a marketing expert.
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Speaker 2: You do a lot of fashion content as well. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're so grateful. Yeah, girl after our own heart.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, so we're so happy that we were able
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Speaker 3: to line it up with your Sydney trip.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm so happy to be here. I'm excited to talk.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but before we get into it, we love to
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Speaker 3: start with our life lesson of the week, So would
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Speaker 3: you like to kick us off?
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Speaker 5: Yes, I feel like when you said that and you said, oh,
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Speaker 5: could just be.
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Speaker 4: Silly, I feel like I'm like so deep, like.
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Speaker 2: Straight up amazing. Yeah, I hit it.
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Speaker 5: I had coffee with a friend so iph you could
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Speaker 5: this week, and we were talking about how in person
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Speaker 5: connections are super important, and my life lesson was to
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Speaker 5: be super traditional in the way that you conduct yourself
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Speaker 5: in business, like have face to face meetings rather than
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Speaker 5: always relying on Google Meet or Zoom or FaceTime, because
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Speaker 5: when people can like sounds weird, like see you and
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Speaker 5: like almost like just like touch you, like, they build
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Speaker 5: this emotional connection with you, and then it actually helped
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Speaker 5: you with your business moving forward because they have more
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Speaker 5: of an emotional tie, so I can like.
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Speaker 4: Screw you over.
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Speaker 5: And we were talking about how that's probably why with
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Speaker 5: like dating apps, people don't care about like ghosting you,
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Speaker 5: canceling on you, not showing up. It's because they don't
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Speaker 5: have that like emotional tie wars. If they had met
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Speaker 5: you in person once, they probably have a little bit
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Speaker 5: more of emotional connection. So just keeping that in mind.
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Speaker 3: I remember when we were doing an episode years ago
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Speaker 3: and it was like how to get a job or
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Speaker 3: how to get your dream job or something like that,
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Speaker 3: and it was like eighty percent or even ptently higher
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Speaker 3: of people get jobs because of someone they know. And
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Speaker 3: it's like from network, But we went to one recently
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Speaker 3: and it was like meeting a team at a company
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Speaker 3: that could really really.
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Speaker 2: Help support us on the podcast as well.
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Speaker 3: And then we went and had the best time with them,
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Speaker 3: and then three days later they were like, yeah, cool,
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Speaker 3: Like what can we do?
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Speaker 2: How can we help?
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Speaker 4: Like people are more willing to put their skin in
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Speaker 4: the game.
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Speaker 2: Agree, yeah, No, I love that.
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Speaker 3: It also gives you the space to have conversations outside
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Speaker 3: of work, which I think helps you connect a little
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Speaker 3: bit more to Whereas when you're on a zoom call,
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Speaker 3: you'll be.
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Speaker 2: Like, how's this weather? But if you sit down for coffee,
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Speaker 2: you can.
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Speaker 3: Actually bread at the Christmas Yeah, we always asked that
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Speaker 3: first question on zoom call. No, but yeah, you can
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Speaker 3: have some of those yeah, but yeah, you can have
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Speaker 3: some more of those deeper conbos, which I think helps Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you fuck Brad at the Christmas part?
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Speaker 5: And there's like a lot more room for humor, which
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Speaker 5: I think is like the easiest level in order to
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Speaker 5: connect someone because you can start with humor.
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Speaker 3: Then there's no one more bonded than two co workers
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Speaker 3: hanging out after work with the common enemy.
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Speaker 2: There is nothing stronger than that bond. That's how our
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Speaker 2: friendship started.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, two people that work together that go out for
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Speaker 3: a coffee or an afterwork drink and they have a
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Speaker 3: common enemy and all they need is like one extra
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Speaker 3: grain of information or that one extra thing to go higher. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's my favorite favorite activity.
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Speaker 2: Okay, what's your life lesson?
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Speaker 3: My life lesson of the week is, at the time
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Speaker 3: of recording, road Beauty just launch, right, very exciting, congratulations
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Speaker 3: my good friend Hailey Beber. However, my life lesson of
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Speaker 3: the week is you don't actually need to buy it
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Speaker 3: when everyone else is, because yesterday it launched in two
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Speaker 3: stores only in Sydney and in Melbourne on Burke Street
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Speaker 3: and George Street. Right. And then this morning I was
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Speaker 3: going to go I get some to do a giveaway
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Speaker 3: for six hundred K, which I then walked in and
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Speaker 3: the line was out the door, and I was seeing these.
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Speaker 2: Girls and they had buckets and baskets and.
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Speaker 3: All that stuff, which like fair enough, you spend your
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Speaker 3: money however you want. But I just also think, right
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Speaker 3: now is the cool aid of purchasing road Right. It's
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Speaker 3: like everyone's like, get it, and I'm going to get
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Speaker 3: this blush and this product and this product that I'm like, absolutely,
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Speaker 3: if you want to buy it, go get it.
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Speaker 2: Go for your life. But also it's not going anywhere.
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Speaker 2: That's the point. It's here now, yes, and the foama of.
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Speaker 3: It, and you have to think about it like that,
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Speaker 3: because we get briefs from brands, right and we never
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Speaker 3: fucking do them, but we get briefs come in talking
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Speaker 3: to me and that like, oh my god, I have
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Speaker 3: to get it. It's just launched, is marketing, and so
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Speaker 3: it's like, yes, it's very exciting, but also you don't
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Speaker 3: have to get it immediately.
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Speaker 2: It's not going anywhere. That's the whole point.
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Speaker 3: And maybe like five years ago this would have launched
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Speaker 3: and I would have spent easily, like three hundred dollars
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Speaker 3: on it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, easily?
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Speaker 3: Or is this something I was like, I just sit
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Speaker 3: and wait a little bit, see if I feel like
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Speaker 3: in two weeks yeah, and see like.
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Speaker 2: What Also some of the Aussie consumers say.
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Speaker 3: About it as well, like see some of their okay,
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Speaker 3: a milky tone of that I'm musing right now. So
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Speaker 3: maybe I'll try the road when when that runs out. Yeah, yes,
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Speaker 3: and you won't have to line up for three hours
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Speaker 3: to get boring of like a life lesson because it's
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Speaker 3: more fun to be like go yeah, yeah, but I'm like.
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Speaker 2: No, I think it's solid advice, big sister advice. Thank you, Sally.
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Speaker 3: Okay, my life lesson of the week is short and sweet,
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Speaker 3: but it's to.
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Speaker 2: Celebrate the winds, which we touched on.
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Speaker 1: We did.
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Speaker 2: Maybe we celebrated a little too hard. Okay, when this
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Speaker 2: episode comes.
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Speaker 3: Out, it would have been a while ago, but yeah,
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Speaker 3: we hit six hundred k followers this week and we're like.
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Speaker 2: Let's have one cocktail, have a cock how to sell way.
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Speaker 3: It was on a Tuesday, and it just didn't It's
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Speaker 3: always it's always those on our story being like all right, everyone,
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Speaker 3: seven thirty, we have to be at home.
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Speaker 2: And then we got a couple of messages in the
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Speaker 2: lit so what happened at seven thirty?
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Speaker 3: And I was like, we weren't at home home, Okay,
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Speaker 3: like I think those are the best nights.
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Speaker 4: So like low expectation. Yeah, reward exactly.
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Speaker 2: Was rewarding, but it wasn't rewarding the next day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the next day, we borrowed our happiness from the
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Speaker 3: next day.
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Speaker 2: Say, I've never heard that. Yeah, we borrowed all the
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Speaker 2: happiness from the next day.
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Speaker 4: I think it's fine, That's what I said.
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Speaker 2: I was like, whatever.
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Speaker 3: I was like, if this is the worst thing we
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Speaker 3: do this week, then it's been a pretty good week. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: a couple of seltzer was on a Tuesday, incredible coupled
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Speaker 3: us drink responsibly, jteen in new room exactly.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the episode. Yeah, okay, okay.
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Speaker 3: Then, so you moved to New York a couple of
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Speaker 3: years ago. Now, but what led to that life changing move?
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Speaker 5: Well, circling back on the one drink led into multiple.
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Speaker 4: Charles and I were on.
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Speaker 5: James Street in Brisbane and we just gone to a
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Speaker 5: TikTok event and we were both working at the same agency,
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Speaker 5: and I was like, a bit over it. Should we
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Speaker 5: just move overseas?
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Speaker 4: I actually wish it was.
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Speaker 5: More serious than this. It was so casual. I had
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Speaker 5: an emeritus hour, she had a margarita. She said, yep,
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Speaker 5: do you want to move to London or New York?
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Speaker 5: I said, I'm a citizen in the US, so that
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Speaker 5: would be easier. Then she said okay, and that was it.
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Speaker 5: And then the following weeks I think we then planned
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Speaker 5: when we were quitting our jobs, and then we moved
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Speaker 5: maybe like four months ish later.
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Speaker 2: Well, so you just didn't even deep it, I.
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Speaker 5: Know, right, Yeah, I feel like we're pretty like that
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Speaker 5: in a lot of ways, very rigid in a lot
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Speaker 5: of ways.
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Speaker 4: Were very easy going in a lot of ways.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you committed once you'd made the decision.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not cancelors.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were like any minor in venience.
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Speaker 2: We don't worry about it. Let's suck it off.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like boat nack.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, straight at home. Was it harder than you expected
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Speaker 2: or easier?
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Speaker 5: I think it was as anticipated. So my brother lives
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Speaker 5: there for a bit of context. And then also I'm
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Speaker 5: a US citizen, so I've spent a lot of time
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Speaker 5: in the US, So I don't think that I anticipated
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Speaker 5: that it was going to be hard. I just knew
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Speaker 5: it was going to be expensive. So then we would
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Speaker 5: over that four months, we already had saved a bit,
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Speaker 5: not enough, I'll get into that, and then we're just hustling, basically,
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Speaker 5: like working multiple jobs and whatnot to save. But I
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Speaker 5: wouldn't say when I got there that it was super hard.
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Speaker 5: But I do think if I had moved alone, it
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Speaker 5: would have been a very different experience, Like.
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Speaker 3: Would you recommend moving with a friend because.
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Speaker 5: Yes, if they have the same mindset as you and
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Speaker 5: the same ambition or similar ambition more so, yeah, because
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Speaker 5: you kind of need to be there for similar reasons
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Speaker 5: or else your lifestyles can go into different directions.
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Speaker 4: So I felt Tiles and I have a good.
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Speaker 5: Mix of liking to party and have fun but also
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Speaker 5: being very career driven, so it was a nice balance.
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Speaker 5: But if you went with someone who was just going
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Speaker 5: there to live there for a year and have the
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Speaker 5: best time of their life, you'd probably been different friendship
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Speaker 5: groups and directions.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you already like you were already best friends.
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Speaker 4: Yeah we met at work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like you were you as close when
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Speaker 3: you moved versus now?
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Speaker 4: No? Oh wow, really definitely not.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, so we like work wives essentially at
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Speaker 2: the time.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've only known each other for four years. Wow.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Actually surprised that so many people.
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Speaker 2: H my gosh, that's weird.
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Speaker 3: Although how is the you who moved different versus you
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Speaker 3: now after being there for a little while.
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Speaker 5: I would probably say when I moved, I like to
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Speaker 5: say that I'm quite introveted, which surprises a lot of people.
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Speaker 5: Even though I share a lot of my life, I
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Speaker 5: think a lot of my life is also private, whether
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Speaker 5: that's like dating or like work. I think a lot
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Speaker 5: of that stuff private. And I showed little bits here
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Speaker 5: and there. But when I moved, I was much more introveted,
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Speaker 5: didn't put myself out there as much. But New York
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Speaker 5: kind of forces you to become an extrovert because if
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Speaker 5: you don't, then you kind of don't make friends and
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Speaker 5: fall behind. So yeah, I would say I'm a lot
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Speaker 5: more confident, probably in myself, my day to day and
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Speaker 5: also my style.
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Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 5: When I first moved compared to now, I probably thought
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Speaker 5: I had good style at the time three years ago,
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Speaker 5: but now when I look back at those photos and went,
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Speaker 5: oh my.
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Speaker 2: God, yeah, we've all been there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you moved, was there like when you first
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Speaker 3: had the thing of being like should we move?
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Speaker 2: Like should we just go?
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Speaker 3: Was there like a lead up to that of like
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Speaker 3: you were pondering it? Or was it very no at
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Speaker 3: the moment, not at all.
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Speaker 5: Wow, there was no conversation, really, it was Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Do you think that if there was, then maybe you
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have made the move? Like, do you think that's
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Speaker 3: what made it a success because you just committed and
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Speaker 3: you didn't even give any of those chances for you
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Speaker 3: to overthink it.
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Speaker 5: Kind of yes, But Tarles and I are very big
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Speaker 5: on stop complaining and change. So it's either like you
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Speaker 5: don't complain about something unless you're going to change it,
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Speaker 5: and if you keep complaining, just like, don't complain. So
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Speaker 5: I think it's kind of similar mindset with moving. If
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Speaker 5: we were teetering, oh should we move to not move,
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Speaker 5: we both would have been saying to each other, Okay,
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Speaker 5: shut up, like either move or stop talking about it, like,
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Speaker 5: don't just kind of idle in the middle.
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Speaker 2: I like that.
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Speaker 3: It's like the saying it's like the best decision is
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Speaker 3: the one that you make yes, rather than like sitting
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Speaker 3: back and forth being like oh no.
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Speaker 5: I always say that, especially in work, like stop thinking
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Speaker 5: about what you could be doing and just do it, yeah,
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Speaker 5: because then you'll be able to work out if it
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Speaker 5: works on it.
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Speaker 3: And the worst case scenario was never that bad. No,
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Speaker 3: whatever ends up happening. I once heard this stat and
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Speaker 3: it was like eighty five percent of the things that
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Speaker 3: you stress about never happen.
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Speaker 2: And I think I became a god at that point,
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Speaker 2: I was like, elevator nothing, no one can touch me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like I need that like written in
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Speaker 3: lipstick on my mirror or I we need to get
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Speaker 3: like mirror stickers or something. Yeah, little decals some trademark.
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Speaker 3: So you kind of touched on this previously. But living
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Speaker 3: in New York is notoriously expensive, But is there an
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Speaker 3: inherent money habit that you had to unlearn.
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Speaker 2: After you moved.
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Speaker 5: I would say, as an Australian living in the US,
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Speaker 5: it was converting everything. So when we first moved, we
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Speaker 5: would sit there and say, oh, this coffee was actually
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Speaker 5: twelve dollars Australian, or this coffee or this dinner was
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Speaker 5: actually eighty dollars Australian.
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Speaker 4: That will literally wear and tear your brain.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so much so to the point that you have
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Speaker 5: like more of a scarcity mindset and you become a
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Speaker 5: little bit more frugal. So we just started just taking
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Speaker 5: the dollars as they were.
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Speaker 4: It's if your coffee is six dollars, it's six dollars.
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Speaker 5: You're not sitting there saying, oh, this is actually nine
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Speaker 5: dollars eighty in Australian because it doesn't really get you Anyways.
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Speaker 2: This is a bit of a fucking bummer.
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Speaker 3: Like when you're moving, I think it's a different thing
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Speaker 3: to when you're traveling, right, completely, it's.
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Speaker 2: A completely different thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but still if you're sitting there over every single
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Speaker 3: dollar and I'm really talking I've never moved overseas. I'm
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Speaker 3: really talking in the context of traveling though, Like if
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Speaker 3: you go to every single meal and every single thing
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Speaker 3: you do and everything, and you're going.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Australian doll sucks, so it's like.
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Speaker 3: You the whole time, we're just going to be like, oh,
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Speaker 3: that's so much more expensive.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then tax and tip, so it's like twenty
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Speaker 4: percent tip.
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Speaker 2: Is it nice coming back to Australia and you don't
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Speaker 2: have to tip?
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Speaker 5: Yes? But interestingly, I haven't been to Sydney in five
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Speaker 5: years and every restaurant has asked me to tip myda.
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Speaker 4: This is a thing.
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Speaker 5: I worked at a cafe when I first moved to
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Speaker 5: New York. Titles and I both did and my wage
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Speaker 5: was great, but then past tips, I was I'm early
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Speaker 5: like thirty eight dollars an hour. I'm going to go
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Speaker 5: because I think that was because I was working at
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Speaker 5: Australian cafes, so maybe they had different I don't really know.
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Speaker 5: And obviously different states as well, so state to state's
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Speaker 5: very different. I'm sure the Midwest and the South have
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Speaker 5: different laws to New York and LA.
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Speaker 4: So I don't really know how.
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Speaker 2: True true, true, No, that's so fair. That's so fair.
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Speaker 3: And you've mentioned Talia are your bestie. Yeah, so you
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Speaker 3: guys moved to New York together and have lived together,
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Speaker 3: but you also share your finances.
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Speaker 2: Can you talk us through how does that work? What's
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Speaker 2: the setup?
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Speaker 4: The easiest way.
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Speaker 5: To explain it is we've shared finances for three years
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Speaker 5: and it operates like a business. So say we have
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Speaker 5: a business account that sits at the top all of
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Speaker 5: the income that we make from our marketing job. So
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Speaker 5: I would say eighty percent of our income comes from
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Speaker 5: our actual work. So Tyler works at Lenabron's and then
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Speaker 5: I am a marketing consultant. And then outside of that,
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Speaker 5: obviously you have bits here and there for like content
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Speaker 5: creation and tiktoks and instagrams whatnot. All of that gets
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Speaker 5: like pulled into one account and then think of it
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Speaker 5: like dividends. So Toles will basically pay like I've never.
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Speaker 4: Paid my own rent.
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Speaker 5: She will pay our rent together, our bills, gym, anything
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Speaker 5: that's like retainer always on so like the lights are on,
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Speaker 5: you know. And then anything outside of that she'll put
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Speaker 5: to investments. So she does all of our investing for us.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she is a gun like so grateful.
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Speaker 5: And then from there I get a dividend of spending money.
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Speaker 5: So with spending money, people always get confused when we say, oh,
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Speaker 5: Caitlin like paid for this and bought Tarlie this, but
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Speaker 5: it's the same account. But realistically it all goes in
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Speaker 5: and then the dividends of spending money you can kind
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Speaker 5: of spend on whatever you wants. So if I want
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Speaker 5: to buy heaps of clothes with my spending money, even
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Speaker 5: though at the top of the pyramid it maybe it
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Speaker 5: was more hers or more mine, who knows, I can
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Speaker 5: still spend, you know, five hundred dollars on whatever. If
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Speaker 5: I want to go out for dinner with one of
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Speaker 5: my other friends that's not coming out of technically like
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Speaker 5: Tarlie's dividend.
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Speaker 4: Does that make it Yeah?
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Speaker 5: I think when we explain it people understand it, but
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Speaker 5: people still think it's pretty strange.
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Speaker 3: It's kind of like you're paying yourself a wage as
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Speaker 3: well based off of that money that's left over, or
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Speaker 3: it's like your pocket money, your extra fun money that
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Speaker 3: you can use. Yes, but I love the videos of
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Speaker 3: when you run through your online shopping before.
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Speaker 2: But I feel like she never judges, which is amazing.
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Speaker 3: Too, which is probably why because you have this foundation
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Speaker 3: of like trust together, right, do you.
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Speaker 2: Ever have to ask permission anything?
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Speaker 5: But if we're putting things on the joint account, so
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Speaker 5: then we have like personal credit cards and personal debit cards,
16:04
Speaker 5: and we have a joint account that has two cards
16:06
Speaker 5: credit card and debitcard linked.
16:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, generally speaking that it's like if.
16:09
Speaker 5: We, for example, we hosted a coffee meetup with our
16:12
Speaker 5: followers in Melbourne and Sydney and that we paid for
16:15
Speaker 5: all their coffee, so that would go on the joint card.
16:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird basically.
16:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say, you would probably have
16:20
Speaker 5: a very similar operation because you do run a business
16:24
Speaker 5: and you are best friends, so you have that income.
16:26
Speaker 4: But that's some socials or sponsors or whatever it is.
16:29
Speaker 3: You know, whether somebody is thinking of sharing finances with
16:32
Speaker 3: a friend or a partner or maybe a family member.
16:34
Speaker 2: What would be your number one tip? Or piece of
16:37
Speaker 2: advice after sharing finances with a friend.
16:40
Speaker 5: I definitely think money mindset, which I know that whole
16:43
Speaker 5: term is very much thrown around a lot, but I
16:46
Speaker 5: do think it's very important and I'm sure a lot
16:48
Speaker 5: of people can relate. If you have friends, like very
16:51
Speaker 5: close friends, you'd probably notice you guys all typically and
16:54
Speaker 5: really nice friendship have similar mindset, whether that's everything works
16:56
Speaker 5: out in the wash or you owly eight dollars sixty five. Yeah,
17:00
Speaker 5: so it's very important.
17:03
Speaker 4: Everything works out.
17:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I've always been like that, even before I
17:08
Speaker 5: was like salaried and I was working like three jobs,
17:10
Speaker 5: I would always make sure I had enough money. If
17:12
Speaker 5: I was asking someone out for coffee, I knew that
17:14
Speaker 5: I had to have double the amount of money to
17:15
Speaker 5: pay for their coffee, do you know what I mean?
17:16
Speaker 5: So I think Tylier and I, even though we grew
17:19
Speaker 5: up in very different household we have a very similar money.
17:22
Speaker 3: Mindsetial money wise, Yeah.
17:24
Speaker 5: And I think that's super important. And I also think
17:26
Speaker 5: if you are more like you need to transmit eight
17:29
Speaker 5: dollars for like the te quilla soda I got you,
17:32
Speaker 5: You're probably not going to be a great person to
17:34
Speaker 5: share finances with respectfully, so you do. In my opinion,
17:37
Speaker 5: you need to be leaning more. Everything works out in
17:39
Speaker 5: the wash because there are months where she'll earn.
17:41
Speaker 4: A lot more than me.
17:42
Speaker 5: There are months will earn a lot more than her,
17:44
Speaker 5: but we're not keeping tabs on what when.
17:47
Speaker 2: We're go traveling.
17:48
Speaker 3: It'll be like if one of us paid for dinner
17:50
Speaker 3: the night before the other one pays for the next night,
17:53
Speaker 3: it might be double.
17:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, last night was seventy five, but didn't tonight it's
17:57
Speaker 2: fifty five. So actually there's the living.
18:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like yesterday Tyles went to Lulu Lemon and she said,
18:04
Speaker 5: do you need anything. I said, yeah, actually need me
18:05
Speaker 5: a pair of leggings because it didn't bring any, and
18:07
Speaker 5: then she brings them home. But I'm not sitting there thinking, oh,
18:10
Speaker 5: I owe you from your dividend or anything like that,
18:12
Speaker 5: and she would never expect that from me.
18:14
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So it's just.
18:16
Speaker 3: Having that understanding and also maybe as well, like having
18:19
Speaker 3: an understanding of how the setup works, Like I know
18:22
Speaker 3: that you said that you're a bystand up, but even
18:25
Speaker 3: by the way that you explained it just now, and
18:27
Speaker 3: like the content that you share and how like she
18:29
Speaker 3: runs it through with you. Like you know where the
18:31
Speaker 3: money is going, you know how the system works, Whereas
18:34
Speaker 3: I think, especially in romantic relationships, sometimes somebody will take
18:38
Speaker 3: full control of the finances and that can maybe.
18:41
Speaker 2: Be a bit of a troubling situation if you don't know.
18:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it just seems to be able to have
18:46
Speaker 3: like the sometimes not saying that you guys have ever
18:48
Speaker 3: had this if it is going to be too awkward
18:51
Speaker 3: to talk about money, that you never end up talking
18:54
Speaker 3: about it, Like that's not going to help the situation,
18:57
Speaker 3: Like you need to be able to talk about money,
18:59
Speaker 3: and it's not uncomfort the books not all like a
19:01
Speaker 3: gentle very objective conversation.
19:04
Speaker 5: Yes, And I always say, because I own a house
19:07
Speaker 5: in Melbourne with my ex boyfriend, I say, like, when
19:09
Speaker 5: we sell that, then titles will get fifty percent because
19:11
Speaker 5: all of our investments and everything is split.
19:13
Speaker 4: And people think it's crazy.
19:15
Speaker 5: But I also think with her, like she sends me
19:20
Speaker 5: a Monday update, it's like this is where our investments.
19:25
Speaker 4: She's the bed. Yeah.
19:26
Speaker 5: I'm like people always say, oh, it's like crazy. I'm like,
19:29
Speaker 5: she's actually got the ship out of the.
19:33
Speaker 2: Best friend relationship the same. I don't think they would judge.
19:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, because I was going to ask, is
19:38
Speaker 3: this a long term thing or is it just while
19:41
Speaker 3: you're living together in New York?
19:42
Speaker 2: Like, how do you see this panning out if you
19:44
Speaker 2: two decide to move in separate.
19:46
Speaker 3: Cities or maybe and to like different sorts of relationships
19:49
Speaker 3: or whatever it may be.
19:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, we always say, well, I was with my boyfriend
19:52
Speaker 5: of six years when we started doing this, so I
19:54
Speaker 5: was already in a relationship. Yeah, and then I've had
19:56
Speaker 5: a boyfriend since and still shared finances with her. And
20:00
Speaker 5: then we do intend on like buying maybe property together,
20:03
Speaker 5: and all of our investments are together, so everything is
20:05
Speaker 5: very joint. It's almost I just say, it's all like
20:08
Speaker 5: a business.
20:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a business.
20:10
Speaker 3: It's not in a minimizing way, but like it's just
20:14
Speaker 3: like amazing to see two women like empower each other
20:18
Speaker 3: and support each other as well, because I do think
20:20
Speaker 3: that well, we've spoken about the single tax before as well, and.
20:23
Speaker 2: How that's really really hard and so a lot.
20:26
Speaker 3: Of people like, well, fuck, like I have to stay
20:28
Speaker 3: with this person. Yeah, that's h and that can be
20:31
Speaker 3: like really limiting as well, So you can like it
20:34
Speaker 3: doesn't have to just be that hetero relationship.
20:37
Speaker 5: I think there's so much I guess weight put on
20:41
Speaker 5: romantic relationships and so much priority put on romantic relationships
20:44
Speaker 5: and decided they're more important or more trusting. I'm like,
20:47
Speaker 5: over forty percent of marriages and a divorce, and you're
20:49
Speaker 5: going to share your money with the men from the pub.
20:51
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to share it with Talia. You
20:53
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
20:54
Speaker 2: Put that, dude, Okay, switching gears a little bit.
21:00
Speaker 3: You work in marketing and a lot of your content
21:03
Speaker 3: follows your career. How has your relationship with ambition changed
21:09
Speaker 3: over the years, Because you know, you said that you
21:10
Speaker 3: are a very ambitious person and that's a high value
21:13
Speaker 3: for you, So how has that evolution evolved?
21:16
Speaker 5: I think the best way to describe is my ambition
21:20
Speaker 5: level has stayed the same, but the goalposts always moved.
21:24
Speaker 5: So whilst it might seem like, oh if I achieved
21:27
Speaker 5: this client or I'm working with this brand or I'm
21:29
Speaker 5: doing this, my ambition is actually growing, it's not the case.
21:32
Speaker 5: It's more so the goals are getting bigger and then
21:33
Speaker 5: being achieved, and then you kind of go, okay, what
21:36
Speaker 5: could I do next?
21:37
Speaker 4: And then the goal get bigger and then you achieve it.
21:38
Speaker 5: But the ambition level is very consistent in terms of
21:41
Speaker 5: always wanting to be the best given in my craft.
21:45
Speaker 3: I think that's so cool because then it means that
21:47
Speaker 3: you're not waiting for those big opportunities to put the
21:49
Speaker 3: hard work in. Even if it is something that might
21:52
Speaker 3: be a small task or like an early stage in
21:54
Speaker 3: your career, you can still put a lot of that
21:56
Speaker 3: hard work and ambition.
21:57
Speaker 2: In and that will pay off long run.
22:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:01
Speaker 5: Even when I was running social media accounts for like
22:03
Speaker 5: local cafes when I was sixteen, I was.
22:05
Speaker 4: I was pushing.
22:08
Speaker 5: I've been playing fifty dollars a week. I was hustling,
22:10
Speaker 5: like we can pay you sixty five dollars a week.
22:12
Speaker 3: Now I'm working at a startup right.
22:16
Speaker 5: Yeah for six months, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it just
22:20
Speaker 5: wasn't really conducd for what I wanted to do. I
22:23
Speaker 5: was really long and yeah, I wasn't super passionate about
22:28
Speaker 5: working there. So then I think there's a massive stigma around, oh,
22:31
Speaker 5: you have to stay somewhere for a year, whereas kind
22:33
Speaker 5: of coming back to our point of moving, I'm very
22:35
Speaker 5: like fast and loose. Yeah, soit us I'm not really
22:38
Speaker 5: enjoying this. I think I'm going to quit tomorrow. I
22:41
Speaker 5: love that, okay, And again coming back to the shared finances,
22:45
Speaker 5: when people say what is the benefit, that is the
22:47
Speaker 5: benefit is because you can take bigger risks, I almost think,
22:50
Speaker 5: and then know that that person has their salary. You have,
22:53
Speaker 5: you're always on, and even if you are unhappy in
22:56
Speaker 5: the workplace or you're not feeling super aligned, you can
22:59
Speaker 5: make more irrational decisions and then pick up work slowly
23:03
Speaker 5: again and know that everything will be.
23:05
Speaker 3: What's the biggest mistake you see people making when trying
23:08
Speaker 3: to build a personal brand.
23:10
Speaker 4: Not being known for one thing? I definitely think there's.
23:14
Speaker 5: This whole uprise of I am the niche, when in reality,
23:17
Speaker 5: if you look at all of the biggest influences or
23:20
Speaker 5: the biggest creators or whoever celebrities, even how they got
23:23
Speaker 5: their start, they are known for one thing. So even
23:26
Speaker 5: when people talk about alex El can post whatever she wants, yes,
23:30
Speaker 5: of course she can do that now, but at one
23:31
Speaker 5: point she was known for get ready with me for college,
23:35
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?
23:36
Speaker 4: And it evolves.
23:37
Speaker 5: So I definitely think that people need to realize that
23:41
Speaker 5: just because you start in one Niche doesn't mean you
23:43
Speaker 5: can never branch out. And I always say, if you
23:45
Speaker 5: guys are at coffee and you were trying to describe me,
23:48
Speaker 5: what do I want you to say? Yeah, so put
23:50
Speaker 5: that in a mind map. And then outside of that,
23:53
Speaker 5: you should be creating content that leads into that overarching thing.
23:56
Speaker 5: And of course, just like friendships or relationships, a different
23:59
Speaker 5: version of you will exist in everyone's mind. But as
24:01
Speaker 5: long as you kind of have three key ones like
24:04
Speaker 5: mine might be how to dress your body type, then
24:06
Speaker 5: it might be TikTok girl that might be Australian in
24:08
Speaker 5: New York. But as long as I do content that
24:10
Speaker 5: kind of ping pongs around those three, you're kind of
24:13
Speaker 5: sitting in there.
24:14
Speaker 2: You know, that's good advice because that's easy to action.
24:17
Speaker 3: Of being like okay, cool, I can draw this out
24:19
Speaker 3: and like literally create a mind Matt.
24:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I love that shit.
24:26
Speaker 2: I'm like rebrand. Sorry, I'm excited, I'm hitting.
24:29
Speaker 4: Your but you know what I mean.
24:31
Speaker 5: Like Tiles and I sit a coffee all the time
24:33
Speaker 5: and I, oh, what's that girl's name?
24:36
Speaker 4: She does this style of content. She normally wears like here,
24:41
Speaker 4: that's exactly.
24:42
Speaker 5: What happens, you know, or even now I forgot her name,
24:46
Speaker 5: the girl that's only trying to buy twelve things for the.
24:48
Speaker 4: Year, Brooklyn Brooklyn boom.
24:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
24:50
Speaker 5: And then I said, so funny you say that. I
24:52
Speaker 5: know that she does that, but I know her for
24:53
Speaker 5: the payphones calling so and I was talking about that
24:58
Speaker 5: with my manager yesterday and I said, that's a perfect example.
25:01
Speaker 4: Brook I know.
25:02
Speaker 3: I saw that we've been calling her Brooklyn for like,
25:06
Speaker 3: we've spoken about her a couple of times on the
25:07
Speaker 3: pod recently, and she was like, yeah, my name's Brooke.
25:11
Speaker 3: I just thought it was boring to put on social media.
25:13
Speaker 4: So she's smart.
25:14
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, yeah, because do.
25:18
Speaker 4: You guys watch the Fat Sundays Girls?
25:21
Speaker 2: I love that.
25:22
Speaker 4: But that's that's my point, is like tell me their names.
25:25
Speaker 4: I know and the other one I don't know any
25:27
Speaker 4: of them.
25:27
Speaker 3: Maybe characters will be in like literally a pub toilet
25:32
Speaker 3: and so I won't even be with me, and she'll go,
25:34
Speaker 3: you're two broke chicks.
25:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know one.
25:38
Speaker 2: Of me, but it was that's my name. Yeah.
25:42
Speaker 4: So you guys have done a wonderful job.
25:45
Speaker 3: I feel like every girly loves marketing. Do you think
25:48
Speaker 3: we all just fell in love with it because we
25:49
Speaker 3: were watching like Andy Anderson and like How to Lose
25:51
Speaker 3: a Guy in Ten Days, and like the marketing girl
25:54
Speaker 3: right is like the modern day version of like the
25:57
Speaker 3: two thousands rom com journalists.
26:00
Speaker 2: I feel like the girl is just love marketing.
26:02
Speaker 5: I think it's because it is a fun job, like
26:05
Speaker 5: when everyone says what your hobby and I say, so
26:08
Speaker 5: lome working. It's because I love it's so interesting. Yeah,
26:13
Speaker 5: And I also do think because of social media and
26:17
Speaker 5: guidelines and restraints, there's not actually a lot of people
26:19
Speaker 5: who are like lawyers or work at VC funds or
26:22
Speaker 5: private equity that are allowed.
26:23
Speaker 2: To post, so we have more access.
26:25
Speaker 5: To see like the inside of marketing. And of course
26:28
Speaker 5: marketing girls using their marketing brains probably think how can
26:30
Speaker 5: I make my day and lifelogs look more interesting? They
26:33
Speaker 5: make their jobs look more interesting, the industry looks more interesting,
26:35
Speaker 5: like you know, kind.
26:36
Speaker 2: Of as I would love to know, what are your
26:38
Speaker 2: marketing hills? You will die on.
26:40
Speaker 5: Free shipping. Free shipping needs to be offered. We know
26:43
Speaker 5: it's the biggest barrier to people purchasing. I know personally,
26:46
Speaker 5: if I get to the end, even my cart was
26:48
Speaker 5: like one hundred and thirty dollars if you're charging me
26:50
Speaker 5: ten dollars shipping. The psychology behind it it is basically
26:53
Speaker 5: an emotional response that you think, oh, I don't want
26:55
Speaker 5: to do that. And I did a post on my
26:58
Speaker 5: marketing page where I basically said, you're margin isn't the
27:00
Speaker 5: consumer's problem because I think a lot of businesses will say, well,
27:03
Speaker 5: it's really expensive for me. It's like, well, that's great,
27:06
Speaker 5: but the consumer will go somewhere else because there's so
27:08
Speaker 5: many options in e commerce these days, which is unfortunate.
27:11
Speaker 5: But you kind of like, don't hate the player, hate
27:13
Speaker 5: the game.
27:13
Speaker 3: Do you have any accounts that are like your favorite
27:15
Speaker 3: marketing accounts?
27:16
Speaker 4: Well? Who do I like? Obviously the Shearlocks Girls. They
27:19
Speaker 4: are great.
27:19
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even say that they're like typically marketing. I
27:22
Speaker 5: think Tvashkin does a really great job. Lobby Oh Jem.
27:26
Speaker 5: I feel like I have to say that they were
27:27
Speaker 5: my first client, oh Love. They do a great job
27:30
Speaker 5: of educating as well as entertainment, which I really like.
27:35
Speaker 5: I think it's harder to get people to follow brands
27:37
Speaker 5: these days.
27:37
Speaker 4: Yeah versus people.
27:39
Speaker 3: Well, that's why you see so many brands moving into
27:41
Speaker 3: such like personality led.
27:43
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the reason it works well is because
27:45
Speaker 5: people want to see groups of people rather than one person,
27:49
Speaker 5: because in today's sand Eich, everyone wants to be a
27:51
Speaker 5: content creator. So it's like, oh, I've seen this before,
27:53
Speaker 5: but when you see a group, you can kind of
27:54
Speaker 5: see in person dynamics. And if you don't have a
27:56
Speaker 5: group of say friends at work, you'd be like, oh,
27:59
Speaker 5: that's really cool. I just hope that they're getting paid
28:01
Speaker 5: fairly and that bonuses are set accordingly.
28:03
Speaker 2: That's fair.
28:04
Speaker 4: Yeah.
28:05
Speaker 3: Kind of to round out the episode, we want to
28:07
Speaker 3: know what does a rich life look like to you,
28:10
Speaker 3: not just financially but emotionally.
28:13
Speaker 5: I always joke that like, one day I'll just delete
28:15
Speaker 5: all my socials and like live in Montana.
28:17
Speaker 3: But that's me in like a castle in Scotland.
28:23
Speaker 2: I'm like, and I'm gonna have seven cats.
28:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say.
28:27
Speaker 5: I know everyone always says like everyone in my life
28:29
Speaker 5: is really healthy, but I do think that obviously, and
28:32
Speaker 5: everyone being really happy with what they're doing.
28:36
Speaker 4: So whether that's like.
28:37
Speaker 5: My parents at their jobs, like really enjoying their job
28:39
Speaker 5: and not thinking that they just have to work, or
28:42
Speaker 5: I know that is like a luxury, but that would
28:44
Speaker 5: be my ultimate rich life is like everyone in my
28:46
Speaker 5: life because I think that energy very much like bleeds
28:49
Speaker 5: into how you like converse with them their life satisfaction,
28:52
Speaker 5: your life satisfaction and seeing them be really happy.
28:56
Speaker 3: And I'm throwing you a curveball as well. Perfect because
29:00
Speaker 3: at the top of the episode we acknowledge that you
29:02
Speaker 3: are a really good shopper, respect like like, finds like
29:09
Speaker 3: and I would love to know if you could only
29:10
Speaker 3: shop at five brands for the rest of your life,
29:13
Speaker 3: what would they be?
29:15
Speaker 2: You can take your time naked advice. Yes, I just
29:19
Speaker 2: think four.
29:20
Speaker 5: I know their price point has increased slightly over the
29:22
Speaker 5: last five years, but really great quality, amazing.
29:26
Speaker 4: Best jeans have ever put on.
29:27
Speaker 5: Maxwell Genes tied in the way though, so if you don't,
29:29
Speaker 5: you know, size up in the white ones.
29:30
Speaker 4: I would say for affordable pieces.
29:32
Speaker 5: This might be a bit controversial. Glassons great long sleeves.
29:36
Speaker 2: Their basics are good, basics are really good.
29:38
Speaker 5: Basically not going to sit here and list like you know,
29:40
Speaker 5: crazy brands. I really like the brand Eves ev Es
29:44
Speaker 5: their pants.
29:45
Speaker 2: Are they Australian?
29:46
Speaker 4: I think they might be us. I got them and
29:48
Speaker 4: Revolve oh, okay inku.
29:51
Speaker 5: Does that count because it kind of stocks like a
29:54
Speaker 5: million brands.
29:54
Speaker 2: I think so it does, it does.
29:56
Speaker 4: And then probably Reformation.
29:59
Speaker 5: Oh I really I don't know if you know, like
30:02
Speaker 5: the studded jeans, the black starded jeans. Yeah, I've gotten them.
30:06
Speaker 5: I'm obsessed with them. The really great like low rise,
30:09
Speaker 5: very comfy. I also have like that polka dot dress
30:11
Speaker 5: from them.
30:12
Speaker 2: Their paces are beautiful.
30:13
Speaker 3: I remember you posted a TikTok in like the Reformation
30:17
Speaker 3: change room, like different items being like which one do
30:20
Speaker 3: I get?
30:20
Speaker 2: And I was like every single I was like by
30:23
Speaker 2: all of them.
30:24
Speaker 4: The price one can be a bit crazy though they.
30:27
Speaker 3: Do sales though they stocked at David Jones as well.
30:31
Speaker 3: David Jones do like twenty five percent off full price
30:33
Speaker 3: items all the time, and they do get put in
30:36
Speaker 3: like you know when David Jones do one of those
30:38
Speaker 3: insane sales where it's like up to eighty percent of Yeah,
30:41
Speaker 3: they're in there. No so yeah, I got like a
30:44
Speaker 3: Reformation top like that really puff sleeve milk made the
30:47
Speaker 3: top for one hundred bucks.
30:48
Speaker 2: Yeah Australian.
30:50
Speaker 4: That's great because.
30:51
Speaker 5: I think it's like two twenty eight US, which is
30:52
Speaker 5: like free. I think it actually goes for the.
30:56
Speaker 2: Forecasted price the margin.
30:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, when we got to Henny, we're like, oh, we'll
31:01
Speaker 5: try and like the Uller tank in the Mankin and
31:03
Speaker 5: then do you have the Soria address? Online shopping, but
31:07
Speaker 5: I pretty much only shop online except when to come
31:09
Speaker 5: to Australia.
31:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're so locked in now with it being like.
31:13
Speaker 3: You're like, I know exactly what I want and I
31:16
Speaker 3: feel like I need to do that a bit more.
31:17
Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's so helpful though, because I feel like, you.
31:19
Speaker 3: Know the silhouettes that you like, and also the brands
31:22
Speaker 3: that have those pieces and that a good quality as well.
31:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.
31:26
Speaker 5: And also sizing because obviously sizing on different sides and
31:29
Speaker 5: be like the biggest bitch.
31:30
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, this is great. Even sometimes when
31:33
Speaker 2: you shop at the same place.
31:35
Speaker 4: It's different.
31:36
Speaker 3: It's like I like, yeah, like I'm like, I'm trying
31:40
Speaker 3: on jeans in the same store, but they're a different
31:43
Speaker 3: style and it's and I'm like, it makes fucking sense.
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Speaker 3: With our guests, we always like to end with the
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Speaker 3: same question, and it's what is your biggest life lesson
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Speaker 3: so far?
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Speaker 5: That's like the biggest question ever, now you can do
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Speaker 5: it probably actually more of a simple one, but that
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Speaker 5: obsession beats talent every single time.
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Speaker 4: I think you can.
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Speaker 5: Well, you would know people that you went to like
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Speaker 5: university with, or even like high school with, who are
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Speaker 5: extremely talented. But unless you're really obsessed with what you do,
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Speaker 5: I don't think that you become the most successful.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So I feel like I'm obsessed with TikTok. I'm obsessed
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Speaker 5: with knowing why brands work, why they don't work, why
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Speaker 5: consumers shop certain things.
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm.
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Speaker 5: Thinking about all the time. I wouldn't say like I'm
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Speaker 5: overly talented, like I wasn't overly smart in school and
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Speaker 5: all of that stuff, like traditionally talented. So I definitely
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Speaker 5: think that obsession. You know, it's like if you guys
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Speaker 5: are obsessed with making a podcast work, you'll like look
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Speaker 5: at the data.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
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Speaker 5: Because you're always just ticking versus someone's talented and doesn't
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Speaker 5: really care. It's like, oh, well that's why they always
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Speaker 5: say like you're talented but like wasted potential kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like that, and I have one hundred
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Speaker 3: percent agree like obsession and passion can drive you talent can't.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that.
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Speaker 2: God, You're a wealth of knowledge. What's our friendship on you?
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Speaker 4: Literally?
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Speaker 5: Like, when are you flying back? Tarles Classic? Ask her,
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Speaker 5: we've actually not booked our flights ask her.
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Speaker 2: I love that.
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Speaker 3: But thank you so much for making the time because
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Speaker 3: we know that you are so booked and busy. And
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Speaker 3: we'll make sure to put links to all of your
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Speaker 3: socials in the show notes for any of the chickies
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Speaker 3: who don't already follow you.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, great questions.
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Speaker 2: Oh god, it.
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Speaker 3: Flapping around here, but thank you so much, And thanks
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Speaker 3: to your chicks for having us in the ear holes.
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Speaker 2: We love to be here.
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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time, CHICKIESO bye