Latest / The Downing Arts Podcast / ET25.4 A glimpse into the Advanced Popular Performance Scheme
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- 0:00Welcome to the Downing Arts Podcast.
- 0:11This week we'll be hearing from two students who've been involved with the university Wide
- 0:15Advanced Popular Performance Scheme this year. We are very proud of all that they've
- 0:19achieved. We'll meet them in just a second. In the meantime, creative arts
- 0:23activities are still in full swing across the college despite impending exams.
- 0:27On Tuesday evening we heard a beautiful vocal recital from Ina Kruger
- 0:31accompanied by Larry Wang on the piano. And last night Downing BI
- 0:35Fellow Andrew Sachin Pol hosted a wonderful evening of readings and discussion with
- 0:39contemporary poet Sandra Moussonpes.
- 0:48The Centre for Music Performance is a university wide endeavour which aims
- 0:52to work with the colleges to facilitate music making in a variety of genres and
- 0:56across all levels of aspiration and experience. I have with me
- 1:00in the studio two of our own students who have benefited from a very prestigious
- 1:04opportunity in the realm of popular music. Welcome Denise Rabalo and
- 1:08Imogen Barnes. Hi Louisa. Hi. Could you introduce
- 1:12yourselves? Hi. So I'm Denise Raballo and I'm a third
- 1:16year studying Bionatsky at Downing. And I'm
- 1:20Imogen, I'm a fourth year studying French and German.
- 1:24Fantastic. So what is the Advanced Popular Performance
- 1:27Scheme and what have you been up to this year? So it's
- 1:32a mentorship scheme that's run by the CMP who are the Centre for Music Performance.
- 1:36I'm pretty sure there's like two kind of strands you
- 1:40can go down. The first is like vocal. So I'm sure that there's like a
- 1:45few vocalists in Cambridge that get tuition and things like that.
- 1:48But Denise and I are part of bands in Cambridge
- 1:52so we get mentoring from Yolanda Charles who is a,
- 1:56a renowned and very talented bass player. So you've both been working
- 2:00on different projects. Do you want to just tell us a little bit about what
- 2:04you've been doing? Yep. So I'm in a band called Lost Projects
- 2:09and we do hip hop, R and B and
- 2:13then like pop as well. So just all sorts of genres and
- 2:18yeah, so we're made up of like guitarist,
- 2:23bassist, drummer, pianist and then we've got a female
- 2:27vocalist and then a male rapper. So a lot of what we've been doing with
- 2:31Yolanda is just trying to,
- 2:34she's like opened our minds up to like this load of rhythm because
- 2:39we found that at times when we were performing maybe we
- 2:43could have integrated the rapping with the instrumentals
- 2:47a bit more rather than just having the rapper rap over an instrumental,
- 2:51do a bit more like call and response and interaction. So she's been helping a
- 2:54lot with that. And she's told us think in sixteenths.
- 2:57So when we're composing and Imi, you're.
- 3:02A singer, so has that been a big part of what you've been doing?
- 3:05Yeah, yeah, quite a big part. I'm part of a band called
- 3:09Girl Band, and we're like a pop kind of jazz band.
- 3:13And our experience with Yolanda has been quite similar, but I'd say
- 3:17we focused a bit more on songwriting as opposed to performance.
- 3:21So I haven't worked with Yolanda much yet on my singing,
- 3:25personally, but I've had a lot of advice on how to kind
- 3:29of write music with my fellow bandmates and write the
- 3:33kind of melodies and lyrics and things which I haven't had a lot of experience
- 3:36with before. So that's been really helpful because I was
- 3:40a bit worried before the process that I would be
- 3:44a bit out of my depth because I'm working with amazing instrumentalists. I mean,
- 3:48we've got really talented, like, horn section, rhythm section. All of the
- 3:52girls are incredible. And I've always been on the kind of performance side
- 3:56of singing as opposed to the, I suppose, like, productive or creative
- 4:01side of it. So Yolanda's really helped me kind of gain the confidence to
- 4:05I think back my own ideas and stuff.
- 4:08So that's been nice. Fantastic. So how did you get into
- 4:12the scheme? I mean, I imagine it's quite competitive. So there's an audition
- 4:16process that happened, I believe, and Michaelmas,
- 4:21I don't remember too clearly, but yeah, so when you're
- 4:25auditioning, you're auditioning for this Battle of the Bands competition called Take
- 4:29it to the Bridge or otherwise. If they think it's more appropriate,
- 4:32they can award you the UP scheme. So, yeah,
- 4:36I think only four acts get selected for this app scheme.
- 4:40And I think this year I'm not 100%. Yeah. I think there's four
- 4:44bands that got selected this year. So one was Project Skull Band, and then two
- 4:48other bands. So it was, like, really competitive. And when I found out that we
- 4:51had Yolanda, I was pretty happy because of the stuff that she does.
- 4:54I thought she'd be well suited. She's quite well
- 4:59rounded, but I believe she does a lot of R and B work
- 5:03as well. So, yeah, I was happy that we were selected
- 5:07to work with Yolanda. So is there potential next year for you to do
- 5:11the Take it to the Bridge sort of competition or, like, is this just for
- 5:15one year, presumably? Yeah, this is for one year. I believe there will be potential.
- 5:18Like, lots of projects are kind of new I think we started up
- 5:23just over a year ago and it was just. We kind of started up for
- 5:27the funsies. Like we were just like, I just want to do like literally me
- 5:32and my friend, so I play the guitar. It's probably worth mentioning that earlier,
- 5:34but like, my friend and I were just kind of like,
- 5:37we want to do a bit of music whilst we're at uni because she
- 5:41sings and then I like produce. So that was the idea. And then we did
- 5:45an open mic and that went down really well. And I was like,
- 5:48oh no, this guy that raps, let's do an open mic with him. And we
- 5:51performed with Kwaser and we were like, oh, this is really cool, let's start a
- 5:54band. So then we found people that either we knew or like
- 5:57the drummer. We didn't know him at the time, we had to search out for
- 6:00a drummer. But we've all become like really good friends in the process. So.
- 6:04Yeah, it wasn't anticipated but like, it's been
- 6:07really nice to see how like much love and I guess popularity that last
- 6:12projects have gotten because we didn't expect it. I think they'll do really well next
- 6:15year. I graduate this year, so I probably won't be around for whatever next
- 6:19year. And I think, Amy, I believe you're graduating as well.
- 6:22Yeah, I am too. So I don't know what the future of girl band will
- 6:26be either. Yeah, about half of us are leaving, but you never know with
- 6:30Cambridge bands. There's so many talented people coming in that I think they have quite.
- 6:34They can have legs, you know, and live for quite a long time. Time even
- 6:37if people keep coming and going. So, yeah, I'm the only one that's leaving Lost
- 6:41Projects is yet the rest of the. Yeah, so I'm going to get a
- 6:44bit of FOMO when I'm gone. But yeah,
- 6:48hopefully they'll get. Take it to the bridge. Maybe it
- 6:52happens in like junction and it's like four arcs
- 6:56as well. So yeah, we'll see what the future
- 7:00holds at least in terms of when I'm around. There's a lot of like
- 7:04May events that we're doing and I think we have like maybe
- 7:08like some other gigs next term. But it's been like a good year compared to
- 7:12last year. Like we've had a lot going on. So. Yeah, yeah,
- 7:16it's been very busy. I mean, I joined girl band in Michaelmas
- 7:21and it had existed, I think last year as well, but half of them ended
- 7:25up leaving because they graduated. And so I saw while I was on my year
- 7:28abroad, actually an Instagram post that was saying, oh, you know, girl band are looking
- 7:32for a singer or whatever. And it just came up randomly on my feed.
- 7:35And so I was going through their account, like, trying to get, you know,
- 7:37suss out the vibe, and I just saw they were singing like, all of my
- 7:40favorite songs. Like, their set list was like my Spotify
- 7:44playlist. So I just thought, you know, why not kind of go for it?
- 7:47And it's genuinely just been so enriching and just to see this
- 7:52other side of Cambridge music, because I've been involved in, like, choirs, as Louisa
- 7:57will know, I'm in Down in College Chapel choir and I've done
- 8:00that since my first year and then I did a bit of jazz from my
- 8:03second year. But it's such a thriving scene,
- 8:07kind of the. The band scene here and all of the popular music and stuff,
- 8:11which I think apps kind of shows you. And yeah,
- 8:15I've had probably. I think we did four or five gigs in Michaelmas term and
- 8:19then a lot of things this term as well. I mean, we had the chance
- 8:22to do, like, shoot a music video with some. Some people over
- 8:26at ARU as well. So it was honestly just like beyond anything
- 8:31I could have imagined when I thought I might audition for the band. So,
- 8:34yeah, it's been brilliant. And how do you balance all of this with your studies?
- 8:39Because, I mean, presumably you put the work in there as well. I think if
- 8:42it's something that you enjoy and you care about, it can sort of be beneficial
- 8:46because it means that you have to organize your time a bit better.
- 8:51I also, like emi, did jazz band last year,
- 8:54but since I'm like a finalist now, I had to unfortunately
- 8:58leave because, yeah, lost projects were just taking
- 9:02up a lot of time and like Imi said,
- 9:06there's a big community, so it is a really enriching experience.
- 9:10And it's just nice that you get to like, kick back and do some music
- 9:13after you've been doing your degree and other stuff for that week.
- 9:16So, yeah, it's just like good fun. And also
- 9:20in terms of the community, I didn't expect it. And it's
- 9:24something that you kind of don't know about unless you're in it. And we
- 9:28all know each other, like everyone from the. All the Cambridge bands, we all know
- 9:31each other now, made a lot of friends, so that's been really nice as well.
- 9:34I guess that's something you can take with you when you leave, you know,
- 9:38those friendships. And I mean, you're clearly Both very
- 9:43talented and very committed and very good at what you do. So would you like
- 9:47to carry on after you leave university? Like, whatever you end up doing, doing this
- 9:50sort of alongside it. It's a good question. I think
- 9:54I ask myself this a lot, especially kind of coming towards the end of my
- 9:58time here. And I think that I'll definitely continue with music in some
- 10:02capacity, but maybe not kind of professional, if that makes sense. I think
- 10:06I'm very aware that Cambridge is quite a uniquely suited
- 10:11place for this kind of. This kind of scene to
- 10:15emerge, you know, this kind of community to emerge where there's just so many creative
- 10:19people with actually, like, the free time to kind of do this and to
- 10:23be really committed to it. And I anticipate that being a bit trickier
- 10:27maybe once I've left university. So I'm just trying to capitalize on it now.
- 10:31But, yeah, I'd love to keep going in a choir, in a band
- 10:35or something. And the good thing is all of us do leave here and we'll
- 10:39end up in similar places, similar cities, and hopefully we'll
- 10:44find new communities that can give us the same kind of experience.
- 10:47In terms of myself, I grew up playing musical
- 10:52instruments like violin, keyboard, guitar.
- 10:56I would just sort of. I was kind of obsessed with trying to learn how
- 10:59to play everyone. So I've got, like. I can play lots of different
- 11:03ones, but I kind of became a. Was it Jack of all trades,
- 11:06master of none. So coming here, I've learned,
- 11:10like, being around so many people that. Because I think
- 11:14in terms of what I tend to do is I like to produce and stuff
- 11:17like that. But I've been around, like, other musicians, like jazz musicians,
- 11:22classical musicians, have sort of learned, like, the value of learning,
- 11:26like, your theory and the technical stuff as well. So it's. I think
- 11:31I can take that on because, yeah, I typically just sort of do things by
- 11:35ear, but I think I've, like, learned that lesson
- 11:39that I should, like, lock in pretty much. And it's
- 11:42really been, like, motivational to be around, like, people that are full of knowledge.
- 11:47And I always, like, grew up wanting to do music in some capacity,
- 11:51like when I'm older. So hopefully we'll graduate and get, like,
- 11:55really good jobs. But, like, I would like to be music as a
- 11:59sort of side hustle. So probably, like,
- 12:03yeah, I think Yolanda's definitely helped me with the performance aspects
- 12:07and being more confident in that. But I think, like, at heart, I just like
- 12:10making songs and producing, so I want to do that. Maybe, like,
- 12:14learn how to dj. As well. So I think that's what
- 12:18I'd be looking to do and made a lot of connections here and
- 12:22it's really nice as well. There's a lot of people that graduate and they might
- 12:25not even go corporate and they just go into the arts, whether that be theater,
- 12:28whether that be music. So yeah, I don't know if it will be a full
- 12:31time thing, but I definitely want to give it a lot of time. Yeah.
- 12:35And do you think the center for Music Performance has been a
- 12:39good thing in facilitating all these opportunities? I think there's a
- 12:43growing general awareness that outside of instrumentalists or jazz
- 12:47or classical music, that there's other genres as well that people are interested in.
- 12:51And I even spoke to Simon who leads the center of Music Performance and
- 12:55he was saying that, yeah, they're trying to involve more genres and
- 12:59people with more backgrounds and they do DJ workshops and
- 13:05music production workshops. I've not really had time to dip into that too
- 13:09much but I do know that they're trying to do that. And then also there's
- 13:12like hip Hop society as well. So yeah, I think there's like
- 13:15that's what's nice about Cambridge. You do find like your scene and your
- 13:19people. So yeah. Well, thank you very much. Perhaps if
- 13:23hopefully the podcast is still going in a couple of years, you can come back
- 13:27and tell us about all the amazing things you're doing. Thank you.
- 13:31Thank you.
- 13:37This week in college this evening in the hyung Gallery at 6:15,
- 13:41the Fitzwilliam Museum Society has kindly organised an artist led
- 13:45sand painting workshop exclusively for Downing members. On Sunday
- 13:49the commemoration of benefactors service begins in the chapel at 6:15pm
- 13:53with the choir singing works by Parry, Walton and Bird.
- 13:57Take a break. Choir happens again on Monday at five in the chapel.
- 14:01Another Disney fix is on the cards this week I think. On Thursday 22 May
- 14:055 till 6pm there is a special film screening happening in
- 14:09the gallery entitled A Glimpse of Venice. In Cambridge, spaces are limited
- 14:14and need to be reserved. See the show notes for details. This week is your
- 14:18last chance to catch the Twining Eggington exhibition in the gallery. Do go and have
- 14:21a peek if you haven't already. And finally a shout out to all
- 14:25students expecting to graduate this summer. The Judy C. Petty Prize for
- 14:29Music and the Arts Closing date is 22 May in if you have
- 14:33contributed to the arts in any way at all during your time at Downing,
- 14:37do consider giving it a go. Details in the show notes. Next Thursday
- 14:40is also the deadline for the John Trehearne Creative Writing Prize
- 14:44again. See the show Notes for details. Next week I'll be
- 14:48chatting all things Paddington with first year medic Bede Doe. Thanks for listening.