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Korean Megastar Escapes Satanic Mind Control Experiment | Ken Chana · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello friends. I'm your host, Chris Throuw.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a former Ruleries commando. I've adventured for better and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes worse, across eighty countries on all seven continents. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: to the Port the t Shirt podcast. Ken. How are
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  Speaker 2: we doing, my friend?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing well. How are you doing, Chris?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely delighted. You sent me an email, didn't you?
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  Speaker 2: And you said that this is where I am on
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  Speaker 2: my journey. I'm seeking the light. I've done this, this
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  Speaker 2: and this, and then you told me your history coming
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  Speaker 2: from chronic addiction, which is the same background as mine,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, you know what, we have got to
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  Speaker 2: have a chat, because if we can support people out there.
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  Speaker 2: I get a lot of messages and emails came from
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  Speaker 2: my wonderful viewers, and quite often it's off the kind
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  Speaker 2: of hey, Chris, you're this, and you're saying that, and
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  Speaker 2: what you're saying is and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
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  Speaker 2: The answers are in you, in you. I'm just a
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  Speaker 2: conduit ere hopefully of the divine, trying to be in
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  Speaker 2: service to you. But don't come You know, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: failed human being. I've proved that time and time again.
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  Speaker 2: I just happened to have one foot in the light,
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  Speaker 2: and so I thought this chatmate could really, you know,
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  Speaker 2: be a benefit of people. So really good to meet
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  Speaker 2: you man.
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  Speaker 3: Great to meet you too, And that's kind of what
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to do as well. I have been smacker
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  Speaker 3: over the FaceTime and time again for the last two
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  Speaker 3: and a half years since my awakening started of what
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  Speaker 3: I should be truly doing with my sole purpose, right,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what I want to embark on your audience.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I wrote the book that I just wrote,
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  Speaker 3: Enlightenment Express, and it is to help free people from
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  Speaker 3: suffering from their addictions and give them the exact practical
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  Speaker 3: tools to use to get them not only on the path,
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  Speaker 3: but if they're already on the path, to get them
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  Speaker 3: to free themselves from suffering, to eliminate all the nonsense
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  Speaker 3: in their lives, and to get them in alignment. Right.
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  Speaker 3: And while I'm still on a journey and I am
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  Speaker 3: not enlightened yet, I have been in these exalted states
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  Speaker 3: of unity consciousness somebody consciousness, and we'll get into that
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  Speaker 3: and how I got there within weeks of meeting my
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  Speaker 3: first Guru and transmission from never meditating atheist, anti natalist
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  Speaker 3: to then having these mystical states, and now my whole
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  Speaker 3: purpose is to become unconditional love. Like I've made a
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  Speaker 3: complete one eighty and this is something I want to
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  Speaker 3: embark on your listeners as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, great start, great start, and we can compare notes
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  Speaker 2: on this because a lot of people must be wondering, well,
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  Speaker 2: what actually easy in light? And I totally get it.
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  Speaker 2: I would be frustrated if I didn't know what it
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  Speaker 2: was and I didn't have an eperienced it. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: come on and talk about that. So how did somebody
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  Speaker 2: from your background? Sorry, I'm just moving my things around
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  Speaker 2: my screen here. Friends at home, I've got three screens
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  Speaker 2: on the go so I can try and show you
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  Speaker 2: some of Ken's background or stuff that's relevant to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Please don't think I'm ignoring my guest. I'm just a
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  Speaker 2: one man band. I'm not at the I'm not at
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  Speaker 2: the Joe Rogan stage yet where I can have a
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  Speaker 2: disco dave in the background. They're doing all the tech
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  Speaker 2: for me. But rural Kentucky. Is that where the Kentucky
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  Speaker 2: Derby is? Or is that a stupid question?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, you got it. The Kentucky Derby. It's one
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  Speaker 3: of the few things we're famous for. Kentucky Derby, Kentucky
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  Speaker 3: bourbon horses. I mean, that's pretty much it.
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  Speaker 2: Frankie Dettories made a debut over there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that name.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he was a very highly successful jockey
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  Speaker 2: in this country. Italian descent became a sort of English
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  Speaker 2: as it were, with this very bizarre northern Italian accent.
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  Speaker 2: And he was an incredible rider. And he, I think,
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  Speaker 2: like a lot of people that have that genius, crashed
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  Speaker 2: on cocaine for you know, for a while, and then
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  Speaker 2: he made a comeback a sort of I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: he must be over forty, might even be my age,
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  Speaker 2: you know, closer on fifty. I'm fifty six, by the way, folks,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to saund fifty. And he went over
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  Speaker 2: to America to restart his career and there was a
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  Speaker 2: documentary on the TV about it. And I don't think
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  Speaker 2: he won the Kentucky Derby, but he was doing really well.
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  Speaker 3: Oh interesting. Do you know the name of his horse.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's called Trigger. No, that's probably too old
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  Speaker 2: for our audience. Was it Roy Rogers? His horse was Trigger?
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  Speaker 2: That's an American thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got me on that one too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, don't worry, don't worry, let's get back on track.
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  Speaker 2: As sorry. I'm aware time is precious for us. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: big thing, Ken, I'm big on because being a veteran,
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  Speaker 2: we deal a lot with PTSD and what nobody talks about,
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  Speaker 2: especially off the back of the Rambow movies and Platoon,
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  Speaker 2: which I think was just what I call the cabal,
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  Speaker 2: the big dark Club. That was their brainwashing society into
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  Speaker 2: mass hypnosis of hey, where you didn't support the war,
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  Speaker 2: you know, why should you? But you've got to support
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  Speaker 2: the service men and women, you know, And very cleverly
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  Speaker 2: they've shifted society. They've indoctrinated society to look at the
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  Speaker 2: military machine and see no wrong with it, despite the
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  Speaker 2: fact the actual job it really carries out is if
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  Speaker 2: you look at the last twenty years, it's just been
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  Speaker 2: absolutely sort of awful. And what it's left us with, Ken,
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  Speaker 2: is this situation where people now think PTSD is like
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  Speaker 2: the Rambo and Platoon movie, this guy must have seen
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  Speaker 2: all this service and yes, that is true for some individuals.
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  Speaker 2: But the one thing that's not being discussed, and this
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  Speaker 2: is why I'm going to summit Mount Everest in April
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  Speaker 2: is to raise awareness of the fact many of us
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  Speaker 2: had childhood trauma and we left the military and once
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  Speaker 2: that protective bubble was gone and we faced quote unquote
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  Speaker 2: real life in civilian street, then all of that trauma manifests.
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  Speaker 2: You get that feeling of lack of self worth that
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  Speaker 2: many of us had from relationships with our parents. You
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  Speaker 2: start self medicating and feeling that you're not good enough,
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  Speaker 2: and it's spirals. Yet and yes, I was in combat conflict.
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  Speaker 2: You can see stuff in combat that affects people differently.
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  Speaker 2: But so I'm quite keen to ask you. And sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I'm aware, I'm I'm talking a lot. I'm just trying
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  Speaker 2: to like lay that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I love it, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask you, Ken, what kind of
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  Speaker 2: childhood did you have?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you know, that's a great question. So I had
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  Speaker 3: a lot of There's PTSD and there's CPTSD, right, which
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  Speaker 3: is complex PTSD. I'm a firm believer that pretty much
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  Speaker 3: everyone walking Earth has some form of PTSD. We don't
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  Speaker 3: make it through life without emotional scars, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Even those quote unquote vacation lives that they talk about
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  Speaker 3: that souls go on like every person, no matter how awesome,
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  Speaker 3: quote unquote, that your life has been has some form
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  Speaker 3: of PTSD. Okay, And mine was filled with extreme fear.
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  Speaker 3: So I was the most religious household in a county
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  Speaker 3: filled with heroin. Okay, to give you perspective. So in
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  Speaker 3: my graduating class, twenty five percent of the girls before
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  Speaker 3: they graduated had a child. There's so many children there
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  Speaker 3: that we had to put a daycare in high school.
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  Speaker 3: My sister had a child at seventeen, my other sister
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  Speaker 3: at eighteen. Is it's just the way. My mother had
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  Speaker 3: three before twenty two. So I grew up extremely, extremely Catholic.
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  Speaker 3: I was studying to become a priest. Why was I
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  Speaker 3: so Catholic. It's not because I love Jesus so much.
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  Speaker 3: It's because I was afraid of hell. And I was
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  Speaker 3: taught that if you sin with a thought, it's called
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  Speaker 3: an intrusive thought. It's a sinful thought. You can go
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  Speaker 3: to hell. Okay. So I was trying to get rid
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  Speaker 3: of my thoughts. I was trying to not sin. I
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  Speaker 3: became a mute for a while. I just did not
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  Speaker 3: want to go to hell, all right, and that was
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  Speaker 3: extremely traumatic. My parents were very loving parents, they just
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  Speaker 3: didn't know any better. You only know what you know,
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  Speaker 3: and so I had all this fear inside of me.
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  Speaker 3: And it wasn't until my awakening some thirty odd years
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  Speaker 3: later that all of this came to the surface and
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  Speaker 3: then I could to see it for what it really
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  Speaker 3: really is and was, And so it wasn't traumatic and
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  Speaker 3: that it was physically vieuwsed outside of relentless bullying. It
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  Speaker 3: was more of the internal monologue that I had every
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  Speaker 3: single day of Afraid of Hell. There was pictures of
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  Speaker 3: you know, religious material everywhere in the house. It was NonStop.
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  Speaker 3: There's a three days of darkness. That's that's gonna come
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  Speaker 3: whenever the Antichrist comes again. There's gonna be three days
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  Speaker 3: of darkness. That's you're not gonna be able to see anything.
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  Speaker 3: Demons are gonna eat people. This is really what the
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  Speaker 3: Catholic Church was teaching, and I believe everything in it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a firm believer that the Catholic Church. The biggest
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  Speaker 3: scandal isn't so much the pedophile stuff, which is really bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's the marching of billions of kids into church and
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  Speaker 3: saying Santa Claus is not real, but Hell is, and
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  Speaker 3: you're going to go there more than likely. Like that
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  Speaker 3: really focks with a kid's mind, right, Like imagine that, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's forever, It's forever, and you're accountable for your
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  Speaker 3: sins after the age of seven, which is the age
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  Speaker 3: of reason. So that messed me up for years and
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  Speaker 3: years and years, and I spent a lot of time
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  Speaker 3: escaping that. You know, I was a virgin until I
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  Speaker 3: was like twenty or twenty one. I just I was
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  Speaker 3: really afraid of women. I was afraid of everything. And
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  Speaker 3: eventually I went on to become a news reporter because
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  Speaker 3: I had this I want to call people out on
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  Speaker 3: their nonsense, right, I love calling people on their nonsense.
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  Speaker 3: There's two sides of every store. And then eventually I
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  Speaker 3: got a message from somebody who she was in Korea.
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  Speaker 3: She's somebody from Kentucky that escaped Kentucky. And I said,
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  Speaker 3: how are you traveling the world right now? And she said,
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  Speaker 3: I just went to Korea. I took some random jobs
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  Speaker 3: and I traveled the world. And so I booked a flight.
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  Speaker 3: I left my job as a news reporter and I
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  Speaker 3: booked a one way flight to Korea because I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to travel the world. And not long after being there,
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  Speaker 3: this Swedish guy, I'm sorry, I'm going off a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of tangent from the childhood story. It all feeds
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  Speaker 3: into it, though, and is random. Swedish guy comes up
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  Speaker 3: to me at a bar and he says, are you
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  Speaker 3: an actor? And I said no, what I was a
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  Speaker 3: news reporter. And he said, I'm I want to make
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  Speaker 3: you an actor here. You got the look, you're fit.
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  Speaker 3: We get a swimming movie coming up next week. You
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  Speaker 3: want to be in the movie. Well, hell yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: want to be that. I'll be in the movie for sure.
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  Speaker 3: So I did that movie. I did a good job, apparently,
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  Speaker 3: and he said, I want to be your agent and
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  Speaker 3: I want you to be an actor here full time
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  Speaker 3: and I will represent you. And after being on a
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  Speaker 3: movie set, after being from middle of nowhere, Kentucky, heroin
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  Speaker 3: addicted town right to like that in the second biggest
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  Speaker 3: city in the world, I was in. I was not
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  Speaker 3: only in, I was all in. And fast forward seven
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  Speaker 3: years and I was in over one hundred and thirty movies,
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  Speaker 3: K trauma, K pop music videos, billboard ads, commercials, your
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  Speaker 3: Samsung LG Kiya. I was on reality shows. I was
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  Speaker 3: the white guy that was in everything. Have you seen
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  Speaker 3: Squid Game by any chance you at least know about it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I
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  Speaker 2: didn't watch you avidly. It comes a scale. It's also
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  Speaker 2: you get that horrible dubbing with Korean us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was as good as can be.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a there's a scene at the end of
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  Speaker 3: season one, not the ruin for everybody. I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to ruin it, don't worry. But there's white people and
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  Speaker 3: if I would have been there for the filming that,
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  Speaker 3: I would have been one of those white people during
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  Speaker 3: one of those final scenes. Okay, and I knew all
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  Speaker 3: the people in there. I filmed movies with Liam Neeson,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. I was living the life. Now
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  Speaker 3: this life came with, as I mentioned before, addiction. Korea
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  Speaker 3: is a number one drinking culture in the world, not
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  Speaker 3: just in Asia, in the world, and I became a
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  Speaker 3: full blown alcoholic. I didn't know back then. I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was just part of the culture. I was just
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  Speaker 3: keeping up with the Joneses. But then I was drinking alone.
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  Speaker 3: And I also developed a sex addiction because whenever you
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  Speaker 3: are starring alongside their versions of Brad Pitt and George Clooney,
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  Speaker 3: who are not just famous in Korea. Korean entertainment is
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  Speaker 3: number two entertainment in the world. And I developed sex addiction.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't. It went from a guy that has access
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  Speaker 3: is having sex to full blown sex addiction. And the
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  Speaker 3: difference is I whenever I'd hug a woman, it didn't
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  Speaker 3: matter if it was an old lady or a stranger.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking about them naked. I was thinking about
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  Speaker 3: their breasts against me. Like if I didn't get laid,
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  Speaker 3: I was furious, right, absolutely furious. I was ashamed of
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  Speaker 3: myself if I went to the bar and didn't get laid. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the porn addiction was out of control, like I um,
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  Speaker 3: that was my everything, It was my everything to get
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  Speaker 3: late okay, And it was. It was awful. It was
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  Speaker 3: absolutely awful. And the way that it ended, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: come to the good side of the story here soon.
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  Speaker 3: The way that it ended was I was dating a
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  Speaker 3: Korean girl at the height of my fame, and I
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  Speaker 3: broke up with this Korean girl. And over in Korea
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  Speaker 3: they have Korean law and they have foreigner law and
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  Speaker 3: foreigners have different laws in Koreans, like, we can't we
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  Speaker 3: can't vote, we can't protest, we can't you know, make posts,
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  Speaker 3: negating a business, we can't go into business without a
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  Speaker 3: Korean partner. And the foreigner law is there's no phone
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  Speaker 3: call and there's no lawyer. So I'm on a set
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  Speaker 3: filming a movie and my agent comes up to me
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  Speaker 3: and he says, hey, Ken, the police are here. Do
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  Speaker 3: you do drugs in South Korea? Do you do drugs here? No?
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  Speaker 3: And then out of the back comes five undercover police detectives.
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  Speaker 3: They slap handcuffs on me, They tie me up in
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  Speaker 3: a rope, and then they say you have the right
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  Speaker 3: to remain silent, etc. Etc. They take me to my
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  Speaker 3: hotel room, which they already knew where it was. They
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  Speaker 3: raided the hotel room, found no drugs. I wasn't a
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  Speaker 3: drug dealer. By the way, they knew where I lived.
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  Speaker 3: They were hitting me in the back of the van.
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  Speaker 3: The unmarked van. Drove me to my place, went into
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  Speaker 3: my place, raided my place, found no drugs, threatened to
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  Speaker 3: kill my dog if I didn't confess where the drugs were.
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  Speaker 3: Took me to the police station, threw me into solitary
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  Speaker 3: confinement and they were essentially torturing me until I gave
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  Speaker 3: a false confession. I false confessed because I was scared shitless.
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  Speaker 3: Eventually they let me go. They put a ban on
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  Speaker 3: my passport for four months, and I was scared shitless.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to go to prison for seven years.
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  Speaker 3: And then eventually I got a letter to mail aside
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  Speaker 3: you're proven innocent, and they threw me out of the country. Anyways,
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  Speaker 3: kept all of my money, my life savings was in
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  Speaker 3: the bank account. They froze all my assets and at
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  Speaker 3: the age of thirty four, I had to come back
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  Speaker 3: to shithole Kentucky again and moved back in with my
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  Speaker 3: parents with zero dollars, no fame, no women, all of
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  Speaker 3: it was gone. And that's when that's the PTSD from
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  Speaker 3: being tortured, right, And so I yeah, I tried to
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  Speaker 3: kill myself on January second, twenty twenty and it didn't work,
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  Speaker 3: and so I was put into a mental hospital tried
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  Speaker 3: to maintain my life. I didn't know what to do, Chris,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I didn't know what I was doing,
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  Speaker 3: Like what was I supposed to do? And I have
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  Speaker 3: had connections in Kentucky's a place. Fortunately somewhere down the line,
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  Speaker 3: fast forward a few years of just intense mental suffering.
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  Speaker 3: It's I won't even get into how bad the mental
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  Speaker 3: suffering is. I don't think I have to tell you, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: my awakening began, and maybe this is a good point
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  Speaker 3: to stop and see if you have any questions before
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  Speaker 3: I start with how the wakening began.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna they probably threatened to kill you,
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  Speaker 2: tokas they wanted to eat it can didn't they.
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  Speaker 3: True?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, sorry Koreans.
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  Speaker 3: But they're laughing right now. They're laughing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let let's keep it light hearted. Had somebody grassed
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  Speaker 2: you up for the cocaine? Someone must have said some
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  Speaker 2: into someone had they.
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  Speaker 3: No, there was there was no drugs. There's nothing. They
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  Speaker 3: didn't have any drugs.
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  Speaker 2: Were they just like hoping to get a bus because
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  Speaker 2: you're a celebrity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So they have something called gadoghy, which means they
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  Speaker 3: have these you'll notice, like celebrity stories, and when the
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  Speaker 3: government does something bad, they have this backup and they're
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  Speaker 3: pocket story of celebrities, not only to scare the populace,
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  Speaker 3: but also to cover up whenever the government does something bad.
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  Speaker 3: Which is why they'll keep in their back pocket the
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  Speaker 3: K pop celebrities scandal in their back pocket hit, right,
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  Speaker 3: and then they'll just throw that forward whenever some government scandal.
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  Speaker 3: It's to cover up the news press, right, And so
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  Speaker 3: they needed that, and they also wanted to scare all
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  Speaker 3: foreigners in the in the country with an example, it
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  Speaker 3: was news worth because there's news reporters there. As I'm
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  Speaker 3: being arrested, there's news reporters like, Okay, come on, it's
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  Speaker 3: a total setup, right, And so that's what they were
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: trying to trying to do with it, and that's why
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: they were so furious that to spend so much time
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: and money on it and nothing, nothing came from it,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: which is also why they kept doing bad things to
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: me until I confess something. Funny enough, they have like
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: a ninety five percent conviction rate. It's like same in
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Japan too, by the way, and I love these countries.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: That's a reason why I stayed there for seven years.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I love Korea. Japan is still one of my favorite
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: countries in the world. But as far as being a
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: foreigner is convicted of a crime, yeah, it makes it
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: makes the Western judicial system look pretty darn late you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: if you know what I mean.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely yeah. I mean your story is similar
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to mine. I came back from Hong Kong. I was
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: doing a lot of drugs over I came back chronically
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: mentally unwell. I'd been a kind of minor celebrity. Not
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to blackcat you or anything. I'm just
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: saying I was. I was a nightclub dorman in the
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: club land over there, which is quite a quite a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: small community, you know, everybody knows each other, and I was.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I was the dormant on three nightclubs, and I was
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: also DJ of the biggest nightclub in southern China at
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: one point. And I'm not saying this to you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: impress people. It's nothing to do with that. It was
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that when I got back to the UK and my
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: psychosis kind of fixed itself because the drugs in the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: UK weren't as strong as the ones in Hong Kong,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and and I then I had my dark night of
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: the soul then, which led to my enlightenment. So there's
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a lesson there for all of us. You know, nothing ventured,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: nothing gained good. You know, good comes out of bad.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: But getting back to your story, could we just touch
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: You know, in Hollywood, you've got all this Illuminati symbolism,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and you know they're always making the one eye and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the celebrity giving the devil's horns, and they've got the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: checkerboard floor of freemasonry. They seem to all duality, it is, really.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: They seem to cram it into you know, every movie.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: The film the last film I watched two nights ago,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: was made by the Saturn Film Company, which is a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: cult kind of a link to the occult. You can say.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, And I've got my friend
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Martin in this country. He's a film director, and he says,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: sometimes you get your actors when you start to take
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: some promost shots of them, and he says, they start
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: doing all He's like, wait, fucking stop with that shit,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I just wondered, is
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: that a thing in Korea or is it just a different.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't see. I didn't know about any of this
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: stuff until about three years ago, that you would just
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: talk about the one eye and the devil horns. But no,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: none of that was over there. One of the things
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that they do have, they have two or three things.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: One is the k pop factories, which is where they
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: signed sinned, these slave contracts where from a very young age,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: when you're not even owned up to sign for your
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: parents sign for you. You can put into these buildings and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: they'll die your hair blonde. You're the one that learns Chinese,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: You're the one that learns English, right, And then they
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: mix and match each other and they study there and
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: they stay there and are not allowed to leave the compound.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: And that's how they make these K pop groups. They
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: give them a name, they throw them out at these festivals.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: If it doesn't work, you come back and they reshuffle,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: and the hope that one of them makes it. They don't.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Nine point nine percent of them don't. They waste a
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: lot of money trying to do it. But that's the fame.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: That's their level of fame. The ones that do make it,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: they have to do what they have to get what's
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: called a sponsor, and a sponsor is somebody you have
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: to sleep with. It's essentially a guy that just has
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: connections in the music industry and you have to sleep
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: with that guy. That guy's wife is very aware of it,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: like they're not like oblivious to it, and so you
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: have to have a sponsor. It's extremely corrupt. There's been
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: multiple celebrities that have killed themselves and then on with
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: their suicide note they talk about the sponsors and the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: kpop factories and how brutal the industry really is. So
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: there's not really any Satanism that I could see. It's
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: more just like a big sex cult. It's just it's awful.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: It's extremely patriarchal and demeaning, and it was extremely dark.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I saw people die on set and then they would
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: cover Samsung would cover it up like it was. If
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I didn't want fame so much and getting laid so much,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I would have actually said something about all of this.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I actually did it in expose. When I got back
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: to America and I was through another country and all
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: that I didn't care anymore. I did an expose for
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the Korea Times where they came over and filmed me
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: and several other actors that left Korea talking about the
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: dark side of the industry from our perspective as foreigners. Yeah, no,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: say it doesn't for what I could from what I
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: could see, but still really awful. I just don't think
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: you can get to those levels of entertainment in any
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: country and not have some top boolery that's happening.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean you said it yourself there. It
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: might not seem like satanic or du Montic house in
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a kind of you know, orchestrated sense, but it's it's
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: still energy harvesting, isn't it. You're you're taking vulnerable young
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: people that are desperate for fame. You're making them do
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: stuff that in hindsight, when they look back, unless they
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: become depraved and sick themselves, they're going to look back
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and think, oh my god, I was taking a husually
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: taken advantage of The interesting you say about the K
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: pop factory is it's the same in publishing. So I've
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: written a few books now, well, people can see up
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: there and my books are on the screen. And what
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: these big publishing companies will do is they'll buy up
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: all the new author's books. They'll give them a contract
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and you think, oh wow, I've made it, you know.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And what they do is they put the books out.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: They just do one print run. And they know that say,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: out of every thousand books they sign up, they're going
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to get one JK. Rowling or one Stephen King, and
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: and that one book will more than pay for all
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: those other contracts that you know, all the other what
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: do you call it, the advances that they've paid on
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: all those other contracts. And so there you are as
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: an author. You've put your life and soul into this
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: manuscript and and and you've it's gone to as I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: mean even to an even organization that's literally nos knows
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it's going to fail, you know, or statistically you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: nine hundred and ninety nine of those books will fail
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: and one will. You know, some of them will make
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: some money, of course, And you know, maybe I'm just
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just chucking out. Get I'm guessing at statistics here,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I totally get it. What I want to
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: come onto is so what you were self medicating with alcohol?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing when you came back to America, you must
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: have been in a really dark place.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I didn't. The moment I got back
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: to America, my life was over and I was so depressed.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I was like catatonically depressed that I said I'm not
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: gonna I'm not going to drink. And I wasn't watching
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: TV because TV reminded me of my job, so I
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: was envious, so I couldn't do that couldn't go on
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: social media because I saw all my friends that were
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: still famous, and that made me envious, right, And I
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: was just filled with all these attachments, and alcohol reminded
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: me of Korea, and so it was worse for me
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: to drink, and so I came just a void, absolute void,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: and it wasn't honestly like it all really didn't change
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: until you know about I don't know, it's like three
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: or four years later when my sister died of a
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: heroin overdose. My brother had died from an opiate overdose
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: that was an accidental one, and then my sister was
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: a heroin addict for I don't know, maybe fifteen years
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: of her life, which extremely traumatic childhood. Heroin's just everywhere
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: where I come from. At her funeral, I was so depressed.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I just I said, I need a way to fix
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: my brain. I'm tired of being this depressed all the time.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: And so the only spiritual person that I knew, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I wasn't spiritual. I was an anti natalist, apeist, right
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: just done with life. And I said his name's Chris.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, Chris, I want to do these psychedelics
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: that you keep telling me about because I'm just going
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: to throw a bunch at it and see what happens.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: So he invited me up to Canada. I went to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Canada and he had to work, but he said, my
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: friend will guide you. He's guided other people. So I
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: lay down on this couch, did MDMA and mushrooms, filled
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: with unconditional love and spiritual check in. I saw the
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: billion of souls that are waiting to incarnate. Here is
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: the hardest place to incarnate in the entire universe, one
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: of the at least, I met my sister's spirit and
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: down here she was my sister, the heroin addict. Up there,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: it was my sister, the heroin addict. Oh my God.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Like she went through that, she kind of knew it,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: with this whole blueprint of what was going to happen.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: She couldn't overcome the addiction, but she took that on
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the Navy seal, among Navy seals, to try to overcome
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: the hardest addiction on the hardest planet to incarnate on
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: in the known universe, and it was amazing. I came
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: back into my body and I said, Chris, what the
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: hell was that? And then he started to explain to
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: me non duality and then my life forever changed after that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: He gave me books. Today. I've read The Power of Now,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: which is everybody's you know, first first kick, right, it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: the Power Now. I didn't really get it. Uh so
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: that didn't really do anything for me. It wasn't until
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: he said, listen, these are all just concepts. You need
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: to do a meditation with this guy named Gareth. He's
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: in Brahmin consciousness. Just do a meditation with him. He
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: can transmit his energy into you, even over zum Still,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: the incredulous news reporter that I was, said okay, fine,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I'll do it. It was a silent meditation, and he says,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: to the very beginning, I'm going to spend two minutes
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: on each of you, and when I get to your screen,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: you're gon just you'll know. I was like, okay, whatever, dude, Okay,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I'm meditating. Whatever, I'll close my eyes. Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, my visual flickers everywhere.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Hello friends, Sorry about that. We have this like technical glitch.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So we've rearranged things. Ken fascinating story, harrowing it. I
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: think everyone listening will probably really feel for you. There, brother,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: you know you've come through a lot before we got
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: interrupted by tech. You were saying you'd started to walk
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the enlightened path and you'd been your friended recommended a
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: guru who you you could do some work with and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: his energy could almost feed you. Is that that's what
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: it sounded like.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got it. That's exactly right. Nourish you,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: nourish me. He calls it this air force. Uh, he's
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: in Brahman consciousness. And what he does is he transmits
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the energy into you. It works behind the scenes, and
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: his specialty is it expands your consciousness very very rapidly.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Like he calls it a ferrari. It's like a ferrari
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: for consciousness. And so I went, is my first meditation ever,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: never meditated, And I'm sitting silent meditation, and he says,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna spend two minutes on each of you. Close
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: your eyes. You're gonna know when I'm on you. I
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: still didn't believe him. Right around the forty minute mark,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: my eyes are closed, this bright white light comes pouring
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: into my system. My thoughts start disappearing into the background.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I'm two and a half hours in to my first
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: meditation ever, and thoughts are disappearing and this being I
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: don't know what it was. I still don't note to
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: this day. I guess it was kind of the shape
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: of nocturian. I don't know. It places three fingers into
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: my brain and it starts healing my brain. Love starts
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: pouring into me. And then I'm like, oh my god,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I gotta meet this guy. I pull up my laptop
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: to book his retreat, like, I have to go to
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: this guy's retreat. Whoever this is, he has the answers
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: and there are three fingerprints on my laptop that stayed
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: there for eight hours. I messaged him after I signed
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: up for the retreat and I said, are you an alien?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Like who are you? And he's laughing. He goes, no,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not an alien. I don't know what that was,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: but it seems like the divine use something to get
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: you on the path. So welcome to the path, brother,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: And that felt great. I think you kind of rest,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: you kind of know what he was saying, right, you
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: kind of get it right? Yeah. I did not still
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: know back then. So then I flew to Ireland to
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: go to his retreat, Silent Meditation Retreat, and it's amazing
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: and this is something that I that I lay out
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: in the book. The whole point of my book is
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: that I want people that are at the beginning of
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: the path, or even in the middle of the path,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: to awaken as fast as possible and to avoid any
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of the pitfalls that I had come across. And you know,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I reached these higher states of consciousness because of transmissions
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: from gurus. And this is not talked about hardly anywhere,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Like when you pick up the Power Now by Eckar Toll,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: It's just a lot of concepts to the finite mind, right,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, so many people are like, wow, how
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: do I do? Like how you're just telling me these
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: things about what's the exact steps that I need to take?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: And that's what I wrote the whole book for, is
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: like the exact things you need to do to wake
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: up effectively, safely and the fastest ever in the history
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: of mankind. And it's through a lot of it is
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: through zoom transmissions from highly enlightened people that can transmit
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: their energies. And that's exactly how I've reached exalted states.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: And when I went to his retreat for seven days,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: there's thirty people and I was surrounded by other enlightened people,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: all transmitting energies. Just being in that presence just it
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: took me from a really dense, depressed person. It was
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: just slowly cracking me open, crack and crack and cracking.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: And then suddenly my Kundalini awakens, which I did not
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: know what that was at the time. And then six
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: weeks after the meditation retreat, I hit somebody consciousness and
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: are I guess you are. You're familiar with somebody and consciousness?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Is that like buddick you know, like you've got that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: sort of thing.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so to buddhahood, and that's your There's
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: two different kinds nerv kappa somebody and super kappa somebody.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: One is the ego's gone, which is Nerva Kava. But
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: mine was super kappa, where you still have a hint
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: of the ego, but you become essentially one with everything
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: and you get downloads from the higher self about what
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: life is your. You are all of awareness. You are
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: pure awareness. And it was like someone that had zipped
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: down the center of me, peeled away the old me,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: and the higher self, the true self, the true being,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: came forward and it lasted for an hour and then
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I was all in after that. And since then, I've
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: befriended two dozen modern day ascended masters, and they've all
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: transmitted their energies into me. I've trained under them, and
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I have learned a profound amount from them, and I've
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: overcome all of my addictions as a result of it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Well that's not true. I still got one addiction that's
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: still left. I don't smoke anymore, not even an inkling
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: to want to drink. I was able to cure a
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: lot of my traumas, and I talk therapy was never
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: going to do it. Like I'm not saying, I'm not
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: bashing talk therapy, but when I'm one finite mind, that's
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: research and studied other finite research. A lot of things
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: come from past life influences and a lot of things
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: you don't even know about.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: You can't see in your energy bodies, right, And the
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: only people that can are these highly trained, enlightened people
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: with certain CDs and X men powers that can literally
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: go in and remove that, right, like remove this and
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: remove that. And I cannot tell you how much I've
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: changed as a result of all this, Right, it's just
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: the fact this isn't on the front page. Well, I
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: think we both know why it's not on the front
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: page of the New York Times, right, But like this
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: is this is it? You know, this is to me?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: This is this is the answer, right, My purpose was
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: revealed to me. Traumas were taken away, fears were taken away.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Like one time, Eva, her name is Eva, she went
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: in and she says, I can see that you were
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: you drowned in a previous life, and you're afraid of
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: open Are you afraid of open water? And I said, yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: every time I'm an open water I get a panic attack.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: She literally goes in removes it from me, and I'm
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: no longer afraid of open water. There's there's a lot
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: of that in our systems that nobody talks about. Have
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: you ever had like a transmission, Chris, like a like
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: any type of energetic work of this level before?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: No, Ken, I'll be honest, this is all kind of
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: light new to me. I am aware. I've had guests
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: on the show that profess to remove like energy parasites
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: from from from people. I'm very much like a one
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: man band. I've I've sort of steered my own ship
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to where I am obviously, when when I listen to
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Ecko Toll, it makes a huge amount of sense because
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to walk the path, you have to do the things.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I talk about this almost every every time I do
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a lit live stream, I talk about do you know
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: this isn't just something you can't just watch YouTube videos.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: This doesn't What you're essentially doing is changing your biochemical
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: makeup so that you ring you, you resonate with the
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: frequency of the universe, rather than being trapped in this
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: separate little box, which is called you know, being in
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the matrix or an enlightened consciousness. And as a result,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I myself got to when you said some Maddie consciousness,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: like I knew immediately what you're talking about. I might
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: not know the word, but you mean that feeling when
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of onon this, when you overcome the duality and you
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: realize fucking how it's just it's so it's so fucking special,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: And I'm also I'm acutely aware there'll be people listening
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: now that are possibly frustrated or even angry, and I
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: get I totally get it. But what I would say
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: is you're trying too hard. I think a lot of
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: people think that enlightenment is some kind of sh you know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: it's such a difficult one. Ken you know this is
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: for other people, I mean, and I get it, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I can only tell people my story is that you
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: have to heal your soul. That's your starting point. You
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: have to think, do you know what? There was this kid,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: or you're a young, younger version of you that went
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: through a lot of shit. Much of it was horrible,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: whether it's addiction like you've been through, or people trying
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: to take advantage of you, whether it's physical, mental, emotional
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: sexual abuse when you were younger. And it means you
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: grow up with this permanent feeling of flight, fight or
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: freeze mode, that anything that comes at you has the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: potential to trigger you. You know, this is why I mean.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I remember at school, I was late. Our cub scouts
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: were playing a football match and I was a valued
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: member of the cubs and the team. But because my
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: parents always made me do stuff on my own, I
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: never had no one ever come and took my hand
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: as a five or six year old and said, come on, Chris,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: let's get you to the football match. So instead I'm there,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I'm on my own. I see the car leaving the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: cub the cub hut, and I'm not in it, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: all the cubs are. Back in those days, Ken, it
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: was we chucked as many kids in a car as
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: you could squeeze in. There was none of this, yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: no health and safety stuff, you know. And I'm looking
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: at all the cubs crammed into this car and they're
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: all excited. And I didn't have it in me. I
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: didn't have the emotional and physical mechanism to run across
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: that road and go WHOA wait for me because I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: felt so inadequate and unimportant, you know. And anyway, quick,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: quick story short, because I'm aware you're here to chat.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: But then also this is a conversation friends at home,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: This is a conversation, and between us, we want to
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: be in service to you and help you look at
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: both of our stories and swap notes. But my one
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: and my long term listeners or anyone that's read my
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: book forty Nights, which is the story of my recovery.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: If I use a cliche word as opposed to eating smoke,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: which was in Hong Kong, that was my that was
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: my meeting my nemesis, you know, Crystal Meth. And I
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: got to such that dark point. You were saying, I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: was so depressed having to leave Asia coming back to England.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I was no longer a marine command though I no
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: longer had the biggest business in the Asia Pacific for
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Korum International. All of that was gone. I was no
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: longer the big handsome dorman on the nightclubs that girls
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: would come up and you know, take me back to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: a hotel, and the blokes would come up and give me, like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you know, one hundred bucks. All of that had gone.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: In Hong Kong, you probably experienced this to Ken it
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: was twenty four seven. If I woke up at five
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: in the morning and I wanted to go down to
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: my favorite nightclub, I can guarantee I know who's all
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: going to be in there, who's got the drugs. The
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: manager at the bar was an ex soldier. We got
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: on really well. I never paid for my beer in there,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: which is something I've never seen in the UK. You know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: all my beers were bought for Anyway, I got so dark.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I kept chasing that high, chasing, trying to bury that trauma,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and eventually one day I couldn't go any lower. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: physically was starving, hungry, freezing cold, my house was absolutely trashed,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: to the point that anyone who's seen the film Train
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: spot In will will get what I'm.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Saying, right, Oh yeah wow. And in the.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Midst of what must have been nervous breakdown number three,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: four or five, or at that point, I cried so
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: fucking hard, shivering, starving on the floor that I started
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: to think of that little kid, the little me, and
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I felt sorry for him, Ken. You know, he didn't
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: deserve to end up the way that I'd ended up.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: It wasn't his fucking fault. It wasn't his fault that adam.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Complete Strangers in the seventies would come up and smack
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: you around the head and you wouldn't know why, you
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't know what you'd done. It was like normal. It
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: was okay. Any adult could abuse a child back then.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And I know, I know a lot of people listening
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: will be hanging. I didn't experience that, Chris, yet. Of course,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I hope you had a wonderful childhood. I didn't have
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: that one, you know, I had a very you know, violent,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: terrifying yadda, yadda, yadda, you know, And in that moment, Ken,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: crying there on the floor, I couldn't cry any harder
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: of where's it all gone? What have I done to myself?
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: What have I done to myself? I've just become like this,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: you know, just on the complete opposite side of what
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I used to be. Okay, I used to be a
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: train killer, driving a flashy BMW and having ay and
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: all that materialistic bollocks, Right, but at least I had something.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Right now, I had nothing. I was emaciated, I had
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: track marks all up my arm. It was just And
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: in that moment, I thought, hang on, Chris, who's going
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: to look after that little kid? Who's going to start
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: looking who? You can blame all your childhood all you like,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: but you know what, You're the one assaulting him now
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: by shoving them bloody needles in his arms up to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: twenty times a day. It's you, mate, what you're gonna do.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: You're gonna put your You're gonna put your money where
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: your mouth is and be that brave commando that you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: know you are that does stuff that makes other people
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: like baffled, you know, and I still do to this day.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Can you know if I say I'm going to run
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: one thousand miles the length of the country and just
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: go and do it. By saying run across the desert,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I just go and do it. If I say I'm
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: going to row across the Atlantic Ocean, I just go
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: and do it. And it baffles people. A lot of
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: people think I'm like blase, and but they don't understand
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: is you know, you've got to be true to yourself.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: You know, you've got to be true to the divinity
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: that's within you, the universe inside you. Otherwise you're delusional
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: and you're kidded kid, you know, kidding yourself. And so
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I said, right, there's a few things need to happen here.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I was actually too ashamed to go out of the house,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: you know. And the irony was the reason was all
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the kids were playing football in my street and they
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: fricking love me, ken because I was the only adult
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: that gave them the time of day. I was the
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: only adult that would go out and play football. I
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: used to have this shopping trolley that I found in
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the river, and I'd cut the basket off it to
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: just leave the wheelly frame and the kids will put
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: their roller skates on hold on to it. I tie
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: it to my bike and we'd bomb up and down
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: the road. Right, and you know I knew all the
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: parents and and and and they they just they loved it,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: you know, they loved the A lot of them were
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: single parents because the estate that I lived on, the
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: council had brought a lot of properties to rent out
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: for our I don't want to say single parent problem.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: That sounds horrible, but you know the issue. And so
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of them didn't have fathers on the scene.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: So I was like the you know, I was the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: guy that fixed the bicycles and all this stuff, and
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: yet being this kind, loving person that I tried to be,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I'd done this to myself at the same time. You know. Anyway, Yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: cut a long story short. In that moment, I said, right,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: are we grateful for this life, Chris?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Or are we not?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Simple question? So yes or no. Lots of our mates
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: were dead by this time in the Marines. That just happens.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: A lot died in horrific circumstances. What would they give
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to be in now? They would give anything. And if
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: you said to him, look you can come back again
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: and be alive. Oh, but by the way, you're not
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: allowed to stick drugs in your arm twenty times a day.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: What would they say, they say, no problem, where do
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I sign? You know? And what am I doing with
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: this beautiful life when they're dead?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm squandering it. I'm ignoring the beauty, the divinity
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: that is in all of us, this gift. And so
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I said, right, let's start being grateful for every single
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: fricking day. Let's throw open the curtains in the morning
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: and say morning world, thank you so much for having me,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you know, And then I'll go about my day and
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: it will be my day. And I'm not living up
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: to anyone else's expectations. I don't care if you've got
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a ferrari and a har eam of Swedish nurses, right,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: that's your bullshit. I don't don't. You're probably the most
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: unhappiest person on the planet, right. I want to be
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: able to sit in the garden with a cup of
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: tea instead of a bag of gear and feel that
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: son on my face and just think, thank you God,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: thank you so fucking much, you know. And what happened
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: is I decided let me forgive all those people in
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the past, because do you know what, when I heard
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: their stories, it fucking I don't really cry, ken, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: you know, not not in general, not not when I'm
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: not on a nervous breakdown from chronic drug addiction. But
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: here in their stories whatever, the closest thing to being
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: crying is, you know, the abuses that some of the
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: parents are parents' generation went through and it was quite
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: normal then we you know, not knowing their daddies and
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: daddies went off to war, ignored them because they was
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: the sergeant major in the unit and they was out
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: with the boys all the time, and the army was there,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: you know, and then they get killed in something like
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the Falklands War or or Northern Ireland. You know, one
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: of my mates dad was blown up, his car was
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: And then you're like, ah, then you can see that
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: intergenerational trauma and the abuses coming down through the and
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: it's got to stop. And it stops when you forgive
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: them and you empathize with what they went through and
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: see that their behavior to you was just a reflection
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: of the inner chronic, inner pain that they're getting. And
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: you know what, be grateful you've had some tough experiences
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: because you can take that forward and be an education
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: for other people. And so I healed the past. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: said it doesn't no longer exists for me, just the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: happy memories. The rest of it's gone. I've got the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: now and I'm not going to squander it. And the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: third thing I did so I left the past behind.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I decided to be grateful and I took action. If
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: you take action, God's up there. Well, God's inside you
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: looking at you. Going just take a bit of action.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: That's all you got to do. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Stop being a victim. You're not a victim. You have
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the divinity inside you. Start releasing it. You take action,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: and boom, your life changes. And my action was simply
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: cut down on the gear. Don't spend all your money
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: on it. Chris. I was never a dealer either, Ken
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I would have been crappy. I would have got arrested.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: So I only had what I could afford, which wasn't
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: a lot when you're on benefits. And when it was gone,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I had this horrible depression for the rest of the
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: fortnight until it got me money again. I thought, you
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: know what, Chris, just spend ten quid ten pounds, that's it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Don't spend you know, and when it's gone, it's gone. Okay,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: So I went through the rig marale. You know what
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: it's like. They call it acting out, don't they. The
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: excitement of calling the dealer. And I used to go
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: to the roughest pub in Plymouth to keep my stuff,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: and I'd cycle down there on my bike, you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: blitz them through all the red traffic lights. I was
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: just anyway I'd get I'd get my ten pounds bag
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: and when it was gone, it was gone. I would crash.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I would wake up, throw open a curtains and say
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: morning world, thank you so much for this life. And
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: when I did that for the first time, I turned
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: to go and make a cup of tea, something that
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: before was like a chure, a chore. I'd rather have
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: the drugs, to be honest, and now the simple act
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: of treating myself to something that wasn't the most devastating
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: substance known to man, crystal meth or amphetamine in this country.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: And as I turned to make that cup of tea
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: can the light just went like that, yeah, and I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: knew I was never going to be alone ever again.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I love this.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I knew. I knew that we are divine and that
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: that had been cut off from us by this absolute
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: crack caled life where people are just so indoctrinated in
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: brainwashed they become fear laden robots. You know, we saw
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: that with all that medical narrative. And I'm not criticizing people.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I get it. I used to be that person, you know.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I thought doing a job where you went and killed
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: people was like a really cool thing to do. That
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: that's how far away from the truth my life. You know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I was a dangerous person, you know or potentially And
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: that light has never left me. And very occasionally I
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: find myself getting a bit stressed or I wake up
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: in life isn't the way that I want it to be,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, whoa tiger, Stop that stop. You ain't
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: going back into the matrix. You can't. You know the
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: truth you quiet and everything down past doesn't exist, future
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist. I would be grateful for this moment. And
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: because I've made all the changes in my diet so
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: my body's always nice and pH balanced. So I'm like,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I'm a buzzing crystal. I eat, you know, only electrolytes.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I only eat vegetables. I'm not saying everyone has do that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I just found that that's the best way for me
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: to maintain peak health and fitness. And as a result,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I just have to go like that now and everything
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: in my body just starts tingling with that beautiful resonance
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: of tuning into the universe. My pineal gland kicks in
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: which it will only do when your eyes are shut.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: The chrystal drops away, because that's all just an illusionary bollocks.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: That's all gone, and I just become universal consciousness. So Maddie,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: as you referred to it, that's it. And I know
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: in this moment I've been here forever you the energy
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: has been here forever, it will be here forever it
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: cannot Therefore, I am that energy just experiencing itself in
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: this little body for a temporary period. I'll go back
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: to the energy. And that is my job, you know,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: that's my primary role in that life, and that makes
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: it much better to deal with bere because we can't
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: go anywhere. Secondly, you can't afford to be depressed. So
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: you kiss someone goodbye, thank them for their input in
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: your life and the happy memories, and then you get
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: out there and you smash it. You know, you don't
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: look back. And that's my journey, Ken. So when I
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: hear people that have done it in a more kind
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: of constructed fashion and have actually put effort in because
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: you know, I just kind of like stop doing things
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: rather than did do things, if that makes sense, or.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yet addition by subtraction.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I stopped thinking about the past. I
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: stopped not being grateful. I stopped the addictive you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: the taking drugs and feeding the addiction, and I stopped
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: not healing the addiction. Instead, I looked at my well,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: do you know what, I'm actually grateful. I had a
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: tough childhood, give me everything. It's literally brought everything by
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: embracing it rather than seeing it as a negative. You know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I'll just tell anyone, come and meet my kid. You
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: come and meet my kid, You'll be like, fucking hel Chris.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I know. It's mad, isn't it. You know,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's what have I done to deserve this?
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Other than you know? And I shy away, ken from
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: using terms like God and this too much because I don't.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want people to listen to me and think
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: that I'm talking about religion, you know, or that I'm
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: a Bible basher. I love the Bible. It's it's the
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: best book on the planet. But you've got to decode
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: it is allegory. You know, You've got to decode the
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: allegory that's in there. You know, you know, bread from
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: heaven is your your your you know, your your prana,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: your chi, your energy. Fish. It's not an animal in
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the sea, is I mean, it stands for wisdom, you know,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Joseph and Mary coming down to Bethley Hem the house
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: of bread is a male you know, masculine energy and
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: feminine any coming together to produce the bread, which is
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the you know what do we say? That was you know,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: your your enlightened consciousness and so sorry I did talk
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: a lot there, but I thought we could kind of
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: juxtapose both our journeys. So things that have helped me
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: on the way massively was getting into scripture. I listened
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: to a channel by a chat that's become a friend
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: of mine called johnst. Julian, and he really helped me understand.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: You know, Jesus walking on water isn't some guy that's
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: good at water skiing, you know. Yeah, that's when you
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: get control of your pineal gland, your your modern day Jesus.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Moses was the old the old pineal gland Old Testament.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: When you get a control, when you overcome your emotion,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the water's calm, and when you cross water it's symbolic
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: of higher consciousness because when you start to live life
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: through your pineal gland rather than your emotions and your senses,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: everything calms down. And therefore you know, you calm the storm.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: And when are you ever going to hear what I
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: just said? In church? And in no disrespect to people
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: that go to church, I totally get going to community
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: every week and singing love the songs. I totally get
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: why people do that. Jesus is my hero. If yes
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: you were ever existed. He came to me in a
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a vision, ken, I just at my lowest
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: point when I was building up to the moment I
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: told you about. I just looked down at the floor
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: one day and I could just see Jesus staring up
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: at me with all the blood dripping down his forehead,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: and I thought, fuck me, mate, you can be the nicest, kindest,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: most loving god on the planet, can't you, And they'll still.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Come to crucify you.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: They'll still come for you. And I've had a taste
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: of that. You know, when you were experienced addiction. Everyone
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: leaves your life everyone that's right, you know, And I'm
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: not saying, you know, I'm not saying that they shouldn't.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: It's a tough thing for everyone to go through. But
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: it's when people stick the knife in and no no
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: understanding of why you've ended up like that. And so
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I totally get. You know, it's lovely to have a
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: best friend called Jesus. I get that. I used to
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: drive around I had a nail, a proper cloud now
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: you know those ones that you know, and I had
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: it shoved into the dashboard of my car and people
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: would get in the car and they say, Chris, what's
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the nail for? I was just it's just a reminder
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: my best friend loves me. Nobody Ah, right, you know
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: they But here's the thing. I know that to truly
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: love Christ means embracing your christ consciousness because that if
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: there ever was a guy that died, that's what he
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: died to leave to leave you with.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: You get it.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: And when I see people, they're so like happy and
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: proud that I just go to church, and it's, you know,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: bless them, Father, for they know not what they do.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have any they don't have a visceral experience,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of them. And this was me for the
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: longest time. Like I said, I was more afraid of
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Hell than I was of loving Christ. I didn't actually
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: love him. How could I love some imaginary quote unquote
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: imaginary person that's invisible that I've never met before. Right,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: It wasn't until my awakening when I myself had Christ's
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: downloads coming into me. And it's not saying that Christ
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: is the only one I had, Collie Shiva. I had
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: all these downloads, right, It just so happens to be
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: the most powerful one was the Christ consciousness that came
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: into me. Right. And So I love your story and
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: I love the way you're explaining because I'm in alignment
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: with one hundred percent of what you just said. And
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I want to speak briefly on one thing that you
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: mentioned about your suffering at those points. Two modern daycent
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: of masters that I've been training under in befriending and
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: getting transmissions from Okay, and one of the most common
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: things that they all said is the path of suffering
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: or of surrender. Okay, you have to surrender, and what
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: is the most opportune time to surrender? Every single time.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: It's in to have it deep in your bones is
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: when you're at your lowest of lowest of lowest points.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: And my favorite mentor, Barry, who I'm very very very
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: close with, who's by far the most enlightened person that
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I've ever met in this saying a lot, and he
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: says that suffering isn't an obstacle, it's a prerequisite for enlightenment.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Adya Chanti says something very similar. He says that oftentimes,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: probably about ninety nine percent of the time, people come
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: towards enlightenment and the highest path and spirituality in dire suffering.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Dire suffering. For me, it was literally having everything ripped
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: out from me, suicidal, Like I mean, you're just like,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: what else is there that's just And when you hit
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: that really deep inside of you, something snaps. Right, Oftentimes
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: something snaps. It could be instantaneous liberation, or it could
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: just be it exposes you to something more. I also
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: don't say God, I say the larger consciousness system, which
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: is a term from enlightened. NASA physicist Tom Campbell, who
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: has test said spirituality like a physics experiment. He's been
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: out of bout it ten thousand times, been to many
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: many different virtual realities, and he wrote a book called
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: My Big Toe Toe Theory of Everything, And in order
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: to eliminate any religious dogma, he calls it the Larger
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Conscious Consciousness System the LCS, and I like that a lot.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: And it's an information system. It's always fighting entropy. The
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: LCS is a growing entity. You can think of it, right,
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: and entropy is when chaos comes in. Right, That's when
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: entropy kicks in. And that's we live in a love
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: fear duality universe where love is the ultimate thing. Right,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: it beats fear every single time. That's in all the
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: ten thousand realities that he's been to, and that also
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: applies to us and our lives. And when you go
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: through your suffering and I got through mind, and we
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: still come out the other end choosing love, choosing love,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: that's when things start to get better. So when you
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: tell me the story of all the suffering you've been through,
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: it is so similar to the extreme suffering that the
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: enlightened ones that I've been training under and I've been
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: with that they've been through. I have yet to meet
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: one that had an easy road. Listen, we all don't
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: have easy roads. But it seems to be this prerequisite.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: And so I'm saying to your to your listeners, like,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: if you're going through some shit right now or you
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: have been, you're so much closer than a celebrity or
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: somebody that's got wealth. Like you're really close. You're so close.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: It is a gift, like you said, like you were
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: able to that moment when your heart expanded. Right, I
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: know what you're talking about. Like it's just this energy
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: just woh my god. And it only comes from that deep, deep,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: deep place, and it's something it's not something you can
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: get conceptually. It's not something you read in power now.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: It has to come experientially, right, it absolutely does.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I want to just jump in here and say, you
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: said something to me earlier. You asked me, are you enlightened?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Are you enlightened? And this is a someone left the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: comment one on one of my videos and they went, ha,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: if you're enlightened, you wouldn't tell people. I said, so,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: if I'm a plumber, well I don't help people, then
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: how do I get any How do you know? How
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: do I help people? And how do I get work?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Because I'm a life and I think that's I think
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: that you know, I think people really struggle with understanding
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: what ego is, you know, and we all have it.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: That's that's undeniably. But when I get out and smash life,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: that's not because I want to show there was a
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: time in my life. I'd only do things if I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: not not could brag, but if it would like add
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: to my resume after like, hey, you know that's why
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I traveled. I traveled eighty six countries on all seven continents. Well,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: i'd been a freaking drug addict, for Christ's sake. Everyone
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: hate hate it. Know, society hated me, and I had
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: to come back and say, hey, you can all hate
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: me as much as your life. But you know, I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: lived this incredible life. So what does that kind of say.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a silly stuff, but I guess what
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to say is, yes, I totally get that
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: to people, depending on where they are on their journey,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: it can sound a bit arrogant having someone say that
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: they're enlightened, because you think, well, surely like modesty and humble.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. The only reason I say that,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: ken is just because I am. I told you my story.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I told you the story at which I saw an angel,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: angel being angle, angle being angle of photons that come
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: from source from the sun. Because everything is energy, those
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: photons are packets of information, and if you lay yourself open,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: the information goes in your particular neel receives it. You're
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: brain flattens that, you know, flattens that energy, curve that frequency,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: intero matter into physical action. That that's like how this
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: thing works. That means that you understand how to be enlightened.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: It's not like a badge of honor. It doesn't make
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: you better than people. If anything, it makes you realize
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: we are all one one. That's it. We're one, We're
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: one consciousness. So when you said to me earlier you
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: didn't think you were at this stage on the journey.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: I just want to explore, why don't you think you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: are where I am? Because it sounds like we've been
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: And what what are you expecting when you get where
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I am or perceive where I am?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Wow, that is a really good question, Huh. I never
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: I never actually really thought about it like that before
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: because I've had the same experiences. I guess it's it's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: the stabilization in it, right. So that guy that on
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: the zoom called Gareth in Ireland that you know, transmitted
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: his energies into me. One of the things that he
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: said is that on his path to Brahman consciousness, you know,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: you get these pockets of true being. This, I am
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: this somebody. Unity consciousness in your nervous system can only
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: handle so much, okay. And I remember what somebody was
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: like for an hour because I was definitely in it
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: for an hour and then it came out of it.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: I was in unity consciousness for about forty five minutes
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: one time, half an hour another time. And so I
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: know what it's like to eb and flow in it.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: But I'm not I'm not stabilized in it. Or maybe
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm very open to being being wrong here
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: because I meant I mean, I don't. I don't, I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me come in and support you a bit
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: here than ken, because right do you realize there is
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: only the one? Yeah, You're not you and I'm not me.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: We're just universe manifest having a divine experience. Some people
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: get that. Some people live their whole life be if gospel.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: According to Thomas wonderful little allegory in it, the woman
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: comes home from a market with a shopping bag. It's
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: full of goods. She doesn't know there's a hole in
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: the bottom. By the time she gets home, it's all
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: gone right. Simple allegory there is if you don't realize
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: what you've got, that you divine is within you, you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: live your whole life and you have nothing. You know,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: this is what Jesus said. If you have a little,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: you'll have everything. But if you have none, you never
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: you'll you'll you'll have nothing. It's just talking about once
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: you embrace the light, you have it. You just got
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: to get a little bit of it to start with. Boom,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: So let's do a quick fire questions. Do you realize
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: that we're won this?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Do you even though we're not all you know, we're
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: only human and we do get ratty with people. Do
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: you realize that you should be on good terms with
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: all people?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, even like someone's pissed me off this morning,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: but I still love the guy. You know, it's and
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I get that that he's in a very different place
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: to where I am. You know, do you realize that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: there is only the now? That history is great for
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: like telling the human story and such and fascinating to learn,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: but essentially everything happens like in this pimprick. Now, you know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: all of our world is like within us now, isn't it.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: There's no you can't like go to the future and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: go hang on, I'm just going to go back to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: the It's everything's happening now, isn't it?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Right? Right? That's exactly our.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Universes are unfolding from from a point within us. At Okay,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: you know you don't have to like kind of like
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: get this, but you have to sort of go. Yeah.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I I can appreciate the concept, you know what I mean,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: And it's not necessarily true.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: But do you.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Realize that our woe in life are addictions, our anger,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: our bad behaviors, our emotions are often, if not for
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: the most part, representative of our unhealed self.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: So if I go out in five minutes and I
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: want to order a double big mac and shake and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: fries and Chris, what are you doing? Man? You don't
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: eat that shit?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Ah?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Hang on, I'm stressed, aren't I. I'm self medicating with food.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to take my mind off the stress. The
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: stress is borne out of my childhood experience the experiences
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: that I perceive I'm going to fail because I've got
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: all this workload coming in and i haven't managed it properly.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: And as such, I'm starting to feel like a failure,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to let people down, and it's making
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: me feel like that litter whoa st in that situation
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: you already said, you realize you've got to go whoa God,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: come out of me and help me out here. Oh yeah,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: everything's perfect, isn't it. I forgot that, silly, silly you
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: know you've got that, Ken, right?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: The final thing I'd say is with respect to the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: big bonanza, you know, the party piece, the party it's twofold.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Is that beautiful feeling of well being and lightness and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: connection with everything that you mentioned that's Somemadi consciousness. I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: get that probably on the sixth day of a water fast.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm in fricking heaven, Ken, I get it.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: I totally get I totally get divine consciousness. Six days
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I've got no crap food in my stomach, with bodies
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: not using loads of energy to digest you know, steaks
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: and chips and no, that energy is just flowing straight
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: through straight through my endocream glands. You know, they're producing
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: the chemicals that they should because my body's all nice
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: and detoxed and I'm not toxic with acid, so my
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: battery is just it's like I'm I'm like a generator.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I'm buzzing, you know, and I get it in that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: I get it right, That's what. That's one way of
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: realizing your enlightenment. Another way, and I'm not saying this
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: is limited. This just another example is when you realize
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: the importance of just shutting your eyes, deep breath, let
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: it all out. I've shut the noise off. I've shut
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: the past off, I've shut the future, I've shut my thoughts.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: I've literally just connected to the divine energy because that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: is all I am. And as a result, my pineal
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: gland kicks in. It's photosensitive. So this is why we
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: shut our eyes and I get this nice, gentle, buzzy
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: feeling flowing around my body like a like a slight
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: electrical charge in a beautiful way. The thing that we
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: used to pay money back in the dance days, when
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: we bought our ecstasy like you now get for free. No,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: it's nothing as strong as pills or anything folks don't
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: be looking for that experience.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: You won't.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: It's just a subtle feeling of well being. And sometimes
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: when I'm in people's company, if they're if they're right,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: and they're good for me, this energy just becomes really
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: powerful to point where my whole body is just just
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: flushing up and down with this incredible feeling of being
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: divine consciousness. And so I put it to you. Can
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I think you're already there, brother, that there isn't much,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: there's nothing more to discover. I think at some point
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: we can keep learning, but we've got to stop searching,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: if that makes sense, you know, and realize, oh my god,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I'm here. I've just got to choose to be. And
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: when I start to lose it, what am I doing wrong?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Ah?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: I'm focusing on the material, you know. I'm gone into
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: ego mode. I've been shouty with people. I'm thinking about
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: junk food for tea when really I need to keep
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: my diet on, you know. And that's all it is.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: And I call it spiritual battle because Jesus Christ is
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: a battle in this house. I tell you, I you know,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I every time I look at my my I eat plants.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: My family eats everything. Sometimes I'm like that, Oh, but
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: a change has happened to me recently. Really, the moral
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: aspect of what we eat has become a thing in
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: my life when it never was. It's come a bit late, mate,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: if fifty six years old is the time to start
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  Speaker 2: making moral choices. I'm really apologized to every animal I've
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  Speaker 2: eaten over the years, but I'm I've got to a
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  Speaker 2: point where I'm starting to see the utter satanicness of
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  Speaker 2: the meat industry. All those beautiful animals just hung up
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  Speaker 2: and there's no is it compunction? Is that there's no compassion.
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  Speaker 2: People are just like they accept it, like that's oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's totally normal. It's absolutely do you know what. I'll
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  Speaker 2: have a little bite and I'll throw the rest away,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, it's like, hang on, there's something there. We're
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  Speaker 2: not We're not fa And I'm not trying to sound
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  Speaker 2: like a hippie twat. I'm just saying it. It's at
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  Speaker 2: this stage in my life I'm a little bit more like,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what, I don't need to go and
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  Speaker 2: massacre animals, And I'm going to go keep as long
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  Speaker 2: as I stay fit and healthy, I'll keep I'll keep
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  Speaker 2: going with that, you know, again not letting folks you
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  Speaker 2: are welcome to eat what you like on your life's journey.
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  Speaker 2: I am not lecturing anyone. I'm just talking about me,
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  Speaker 2: because there'll be someone out there, goes Chris, I reach
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  Speaker 2: that stage to mate, you know, and I would love
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  Speaker 2: to hear from you if you know, if you have
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  Speaker 2: ken yes, So it's a nice point to finish on.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're there, brother, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you know, I got to say, this is shifting
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  Speaker 3: me whenever we close our eyes back there, back a
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  Speaker 3: moment ago, I felt I felt your energy. I've been
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  Speaker 3: feeling your energy this entire conversation, by the way, but
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  Speaker 3: I felt it deeply, and it's it's it's shifting me
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  Speaker 3: in a way in a new perspective. It really is
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  Speaker 3: my friend and my god. It's yeah, I think you
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  Speaker 3: might be I think you might be right.
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  Speaker 2: That's your light. That's that's all it is. That's why
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  Speaker 2: people struggle so much. They think that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: like open a final door and a clown's going to
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  Speaker 2: jump out and go, hah, welcome to the club. And
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  Speaker 2: it's not that it's in you all along. I talk
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  Speaker 2: an awful lot about alkaline diet and you know, getting
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  Speaker 2: your pH balance right because this helps when I when
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  Speaker 2: the light came into me that time. I told you
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  Speaker 2: I was starving, so I didn't have any My body
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  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to digest food at the time. All that
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: energy was going straight to my panel. Now, possibly it
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  Speaker 2: probably wasn't a very decalcified or clean paneal because I've
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  Speaker 2: been taking drugs for you know, five years at that
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  Speaker 2: point or something. But you know, something something happened there.
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  Speaker 2: But this is then the next focus, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: it's not just about the physical experience of how you feel,
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  Speaker 2: it's also the understanding that this has been hidden from you.
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  Speaker 2: People still think that other people are responsible for your
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  Speaker 2: well being.
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  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: I got to be very careful my words here. But
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  Speaker 2: you know when people are not feeling that good, what
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  Speaker 2: do they do? They blame other people. They say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I got this one from Dave down at the shop
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  Speaker 2: or Sheila at the gas station. You know, it's like, no, friend,
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  Speaker 2: look at what you eat. You know, you're a toxic
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  Speaker 2: walking dustbin and you haven't figured it out yet that
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  Speaker 2: you can't just do that to this beautiful divine creation,
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  Speaker 2: because there's a certain key it needs in the lock
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: to make it work, and one of those is alkalinity.
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  Speaker 2: As your body is seven point twenty five to seven
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  Speaker 2: point four zero averaged over the course of a year.
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  Speaker 2: It can fluctuate, of course, it can depending on seasonal
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: variation and food choice. But essentially, if you're eating Western diet,
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  Speaker 2: which is carbohydrates, you're going to be in the red there,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to be in the acidic. And yet you
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  Speaker 2: expect that your crystal, your body's crystal, is going to
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  Speaker 2: tune into the divine, which is a totally different frequency.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, come on.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you know never work. It's never gonna work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So these are the things we now need to work.
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  Speaker 2: When we've reached the light, we now need to work
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  Speaker 2: on the small things. And it means turning off that television,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: you know, the mainstream bullshit. They're going to tell you ads. Fine,
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  Speaker 2: drink beer, eat steak, you know, chips. Yeah, there's no problem.
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  Speaker 2: Your body can rubbish absolute. You know, it's a satanic industry.
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  Speaker 3: That one.
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  Speaker 2: They make you ill and then they charge you for
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: being ill. They charge you for fixing you. And when
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  Speaker 2: they fix you, it's made you even more ill. It's listen, brother,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: I got someone else coming in the chat now, friends
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: at home. I do appreciate I've spoken a lot. The
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: reason is now I think Ken's going to go away
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: for the rest of his life and realize the divided
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: divinity emanate him from within him and to realize that
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: maybe his search can stop now. It's you've done the work.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Can you're there? You know this is it? Just stop
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: the thoughts when they get escape view when you're hate
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  Speaker 2: and on it. Whoa whoa whoa one system, one energy,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: and if I want to change it, I do it
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  Speaker 2: through my energy. That's it. I don't do it by
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: throwing things or you know so. So I appreciate You've
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  Speaker 2: let me talk, Ken, is what I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, this was powerful. You're listening to you as well,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: and I can't thank you enough for hosting me onto
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  Speaker 3: your beautiful show. And I love your story. I wish
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: every conversation that I had was like this. I love
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: meeting people like you in life who had such a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: powerful journey and been through so much shit and come
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: out the other end and are now beacon of hope
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: for other people. So you're you're an angel of the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: divine and honestly, man, I just love meeting people like you, Chris,
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  Speaker 3: So thank you for the work that you do with
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  Speaker 3: my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I can only be me if you can be you.
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  Speaker 2: So it's this is fifty to fifty brother, you know
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  Speaker 2: the same for everybody else out there. Let's keep raising
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: the energy. Let's turn off the bullshit because those people
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: don't like us, and let's just keep being what we are,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: which is, you know, is the divine consciousness. There's two
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: entities in scripture. There's a God, which is just the
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: word good with an O in it, and there's a devil,
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  Speaker 2: which is the word evil with a deal on it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just an allegory. It's a symbolism for which
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  Speaker 2: way do we choose. Do we choose to be good
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  Speaker 2: and good to ourselves and good to people, or do
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: we choose, you know, to be bad to ourselves and bad.
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  Speaker 2: One of those ways puts you in nirvana. The other
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: way puts you in hell on earth. And Ken, stay
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  Speaker 2: on the line, brother, let's have another chat and see
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: how we both both both develop, you know, but thank
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  Speaker 2: you ever so much again, and going to put all
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: your links below this video so people can come and
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: find you on Instagram and the like. Sorry, I got
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: to cut this short, but I've got thirteen minutes to
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: get ready for the next show. I did something really silly.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: I blocked out a month in my diary just to
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: have me time to do my work because the podcast
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: always takes over. I forgot that everyone I sent a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: podcast linked to book they all booked on this day
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: because it was the first one available. So I'm sorry.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: I got a rush ken stay on the line, brother,
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  Speaker 2: Massive love to you and your family and for everything
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: that you've come through. Massive love to people at home.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Please like and subscribe, folks, I don't think you're going
• 1:17:50
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• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: play you out with my everest video. And thank you
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: to everyone who's chipped in five pounds to help me
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: shine a light for struggling veterans and raise the link
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: between childhood trauma and PTSD.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you