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Blocked By MHRA, Reported To UKHSA - Vaccine Injured Adam Rowland · UK Column Radio

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Hello, and welcome to another UK column interview. My name is Debbie Evans.
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The vaccine injured and the vaccine bereaved have always been at the top of
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our agenda and we will continue to support and walk with those that are vaccine
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injured and bereaved for however long it takes to get answers and justice. On
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May the twenty first, twenty twenty four, The Times Chief Business correspondent Alex
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Ralph reported astra Zeneca hits record high as it's set to double its revenue.
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Growth will be driven by the launch of twenty medicines. New medicines before twenty
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thirty target cancer, hypertension, rare diseases biopharmaceuticals, and their aim is to
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double their revenues to eighty billion dollars by the end of the decade. But
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what happened to AstraZeneca Oxford COVID nineteen vaccination Because on the eighth of May it
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was announced that after three billion doses, the Oxford AstraZeneca COVID nineteen vaccine was
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being withdrawn. But why because, according to AstraZeneca, newer variants demanded newer,
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updated vaccines. Astrazennaka said they were incredibly proud of the vaccine and the
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decision to withdraw the vaccine was purely commercial as AstraZeneca forged your head with their
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stellar pharmaceutic called biopharmaceutical agenda. What about those who have been injured vaccine injured
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by the Oxford AstraZeneca COVID nineteen injection. What about all of those who have
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been vaccine injured and bereaved, who have been left behind, ignored and invisible.
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In November twenty twenty two, I had the privilege of meeting and interviewing
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Adam Rowland, whose stellar career as a very highly qualified sports physiotherapist working with
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many major rugby league clubs, including England, came to an abrupt end and
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his life changed forever. It changed when he took his first Astrosenica COVID nineteen
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injection to protect members of his own family. Shortly after this injection, Adam
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became extremely unwell, suffering very serious adverse reactions, and his life has never
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been the same. And I would like to say to those of you who
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don't know Adam, were very humbled to have spoken to him back in November
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twenty twenty two, and his interview will appear in the article beneath this interview,
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so for those of you who haven't seen the first part please do catch
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up. And today, eighteen months later, despite being very poorly, Adam
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joins us today to bring us up to date with what has happened to him.
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And I would like to just add that, prior to Adam suffering these
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absolutely tragic, serious adverse events, he's never had a sick day in his
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life, super fit, super healthy, no medical problems. So on that
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note, Adam, thank you so much for agreeing to come back to talk
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to us. I know that you're not very well at the moment, but
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welcome back to UK column. Thank you, Debbie. It means so much
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to me. The likes of yourself UK column, Stephanie and other people in
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the background are working so hard to raise awareness for us and not forget about
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those so you know, not just on behalf of me, but on behalf
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of everyone. You really don't know what it means to us. And obviously
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you've spoken to me and you know off camera and you know what's going on
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for me, so I think you can appreciate it. But yeah, it's
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you know, we're three years on now and for the likes of myself and
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the lot you know, people like yourselves who are doing what mainstream media aren't.
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We can't thank you enough, so you know, I just want to
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thank you for the bottom of my heart before we even start, for this
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opportunity for me to get my message out. And it's not about me,
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Debbie, it's I'm sure my story isn't unique. I know it isn't because
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I speak to hundreds of other people and I know the thousands of ars.
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So I just think my story in some ways I'm a bit more fortunate than
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other people because of a lot of it is documented medically, so it's you
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know, it's facts. It's not arguable. You know, the facts are
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there. But sadly, even though I've got all these facts, the NHS,
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the UK government and all the mainstream media completely failing people like me.
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So just again, thank you for allowing me to get my story out,
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which I hope can can help us all in some small way. Adam,
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we have always had the Mantra at UK column nothing about you without you,
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and it's incredibly brave of you to stand up publicly and talk about what happened
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to you because you were having a great life a great career, great family.
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You were doing fantastic. So just for those viewers that haven't met you
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before and don't know how we've got to today, just give us a little
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brief resume of what happened the day you went and had the AstraZeneca injection.
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Yes, of course, so just briefly. First, obviously, I worked
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for seventeen years in professional sport. Before that, I worked the way up
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to the title of head of medical services and a consultant to some high profile
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people on the PJA Goltar. I've worked overseas on operational military basis for the
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UK government. Were a professional ballet companies, rugby league and everything. I
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was basically as as a fiddle. I trained every single day because I was,
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you know, I couldn't be a professional sportsperson myself. And as part
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of my job, you know, I prided myself and keeping myself so fit,
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so every single day I would work out. I would go in in
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the morning before seeing the players and do a demanding cardiovascular workout, you know,
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I would row five k and eighteen minutes or ride twenty kilometers on a
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what bike in sub half an hour. I would then go about my duties
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with the players and stuff for the day, treating them, rehabilitating them,
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improving their performance, and then at the end of the day I would do
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a weights workout as well. And that had been my life ever since being
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a kid really, so you know, I was fitter than many many young
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people and certainly you know, in the top few percent for my age.
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So going to the astrosenica vaccine, it has destroyed everything. My job was
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my passion, and you know, I was very fortunate enough to be paid
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for doing something I love. You know, I've accepted that's gone now,
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but for it to destroy me so physically has been very hard. So,
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yeah, I had the first astrozenica vaccine in February twenty one. Immediately I
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developed quite severe fevers, really a fever that I'd never really had before in
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my life. Suffered through about three to four days of that extreme ry goes,
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you know, central heating on, clothes on, and once that passed,
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I thought, you know what, you know, that's just a normal
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side effect kind of thing. But then immediately after that, I started with
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problems with my heart, which I now know are palpitations, but at the
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time I'd never experienced anything like that I was getting palpitations at topics, basically
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these kind of sleep fits. So I'd be trying to fall to sleep at
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night, and my wife had noticed I was flinging my arms and legs about
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and you know, in my sleep, and I was getting all these neurological
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pains down my arms and legs, and I'd basically wake up where I felt
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like I was dying and my heart was stopping, and they became so problematic
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that it was happening fifteen twenty times a night, and it turned into him
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some new where I just couldn't lie down in bed. So then I fast
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forward and called my GP. I couldn't get a face to face, and
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he just diagnosed me with nocturnal panic attacks and anxiety, which you know,
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I'd never had anything like that in my life, so I didn't even think
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it could be the vaccine because I've never had any adverse reactions or side effects
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to any medication. And I'll try and keep it brief. But then I
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needed a month off work because I just couldn't sleep. It was like three
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four or five days with no sleep because every time I tried to lie down
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these fits at start, I'd get this a rhythmia in my heart. I'd
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get this dizziness that felt like it was falling off a cliff. So,
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you know, they tried to pump a load of antidepressants into me sleeping tablets,
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which actually made me even worse. So after a month, you know,
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I had to turn around and go this, whatever's not working. You
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know, it's getting worse. And then the faithful decision was nobody cottoned on
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and I didn't cotton on. I ended up having the second vaccine in May,
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and immediately I started to have quite severe chest pains, which resulted in
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me calling a couple of ambulances and being rushed to hospital. The suspected heart
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attack, and it turned out my heart was going into ventricular tachycardia and I
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was kept on acute coronary care unit so basically ice you for my heart for
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a week while they tried to figure out what was going on with me.
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They wouldn't let me go out of bed for a week. It turns out
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my d diamer was off the charts, so they suspected blood clots because I
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told them I'd just had the vaccine, and unfortunately they didn't well, fortunately
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they didn't find any blood clots at the time, and they couldn't work out
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what was causing my heart. So I kept saying, well, I've had
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that vaccine, and even though I told them that, they just couldn't figure
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out what was going on with my heart. You know, I had mr
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eyes and they were expecting to find structural changes to my heart because that's what
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normally would cause something like this fete, and they didn't find that. And
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then that was the start really of my journey of worsening and worsening health from
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May twenty one up until when I met you, Debbie in I think it
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was October November twenty two. In that time, I collapsed twice. I
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was back in hospital with pericarditis, three pulmary embolisms in my heart, worse
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than in neurological symptoms, muscular symptoms and basically you name it was, you
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know, lots of symptoms. I was getting blurred vision, I've got tinatus,
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face rashes, I couldn't control my bladder. There was just all sorts
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of problems really so accumulated in twenty twenty two, me going into hospital in
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London where they kept me in there for over a month because they were extremely
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worried about my heart at that time and you know, whether I was going
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to actually you know, be a sudden death statistic. So they did some
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more extensive testing on my heart because they wasn't happy with my VT in my
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heart. They reviewed my scan blood clots. They actually said my blood clots
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had cleared by this time August of twenty two from the May, but they
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found like extensive, like small vessel disease on my lungs, and through being
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in there through a month and doing so many scans on me and testing,
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they did a seapet test on me and they figured out that my muscles could
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not use the oxygen for any activity. So essentially I went into using carbohydrates
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and anaerobic metabolism as soon as I started moving. Such was the dramatic nature
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of it. The professor there said, we think you've got a muscle disease
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called myopathy. So that was August of twenty two, so they couldn't afford
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to keep me in hospital any longer. They felt that I was stable enough
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to come home from London and they referred me back to my local hospitals in
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Manchester with the advice that they follow up this muscle disease and continue to monitor
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my lungs and heart. And yeah, my hospitals locally were slow to take
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that advice, so nobody's monitored my lung since so because they've been so busy,
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I've had to fight tooth and nail for them to keep monstering my heart.
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I've just been diagnosed with more heart problems in March of this year.
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March twenty four, I had to have an invasive catheter into my heart to
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investigate my worst in heart function, and I had the biopsies that the hospital
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in London recommended in August of twenty two. The hospital initially rejected them and
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said we don't think you know, there's anything too serious to worry about,
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So they initially rejected the advice from the hospital in London to do the biopsies
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urgently, and had to fight tooth and nail through my mp etc. To
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get the biopsies in May of last year, and then basically since May of
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last year, I have had no treatment from the NHS and I wouldn't wish
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what's happened to me again on anybody. My case, granted, in defense
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of the NHS has been very, very complex, which I've come on here
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to share today, but it's not an excuse really for how myself's been treated.
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And basically that's what I'd like to share today, just to try and
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try and explain to the viewers what's happened to me since those biopses last year,
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and you know how my health has been and where people like me the
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reality that we face. Thank you for that, Adam, And I'd just
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like to add for people watching too, that Adam's been very brave in telling
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you what's been going on with regards to his medical health. But sadly,
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of course, Adam, we know that you know, you've separated from your
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wife and you've lost pretty much everything and you barely have any support at all.
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And what strikes me is that from the get go, you and all
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of the other vaccine injured and bereave that we speak to, have been fighting,
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literally fighting not just fighting for answers and for treatment, but fighting to
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be heard, to be listened to, to be believed. You know you've
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been You've been fobbed off with mental health problems and panic attacks and anxiety when
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you have extreme symptoms and you've never ever had a day sick in your life
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previously very healthy person. And in November twenty twenty two, when we last
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spoke, we were kind of at the situation where you were waiting for answers.
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You still hadn't got any answers. You were still in what we call
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a wicker basket. You know, when you put somebody in a wicker basket,
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or put something in a wicker basket, and you pass it around from
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place to place and it just carries on getting passed around. And it appeared
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to me that that's where we left it in November twenty twenty two. So
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what I want to ask you now, Adam, is we are now in
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summer twenty twenty four. What is a day in the life of Adam,
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like in three years down the line from that injection. Yeah, so my
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life thereby a day is and I think you'll find the same for a lot
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of people. But I'm so inconsistent. So I will give you my absolute
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best day. So I live in constant pain, but my pain at best
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is a three or a four out of ten. And what I mean by
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that is I get constant angina pain and inflammatory pain in my heart and chest.
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I mean constant neurological pain in my arms and legs, particularly my legs.
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So at best that pain is a four. But at a four,
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debet is I can converse with people, and it can be very challenging at
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times because the pain doesn't stay a four for the whole day. It's not
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consistent. You know, you get waves of worse than in pain. But
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at that level of pain, I can be present in conversations like I am
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today, and even though it's horrible and uncomfortable and it affects you mentally because
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you never ever get respite from it, you know, I can do things
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like this and speak to people in terms of how I cope with it.
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I really struggle to sleep because of the neurological pain in my legs and my
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heart pain worsens when I lie flat. I'm still not able to lie flat
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in bed for some reason. It makes the inflammation the pericarditis that I've had
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twice and which they think is a chronic, also a mean kind of inflammation
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on my heart. Now it makes it a lot worse. And what happens
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when I lie flat is in bed, when I try and go and sleep
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at night, I have these what's called non epileptic fits. So what happens
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is I'll try and close my eyes. I'll try and close my eyes and
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go to sleep. I actually live in fear of going to sleep, so
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I generally can't any sleep before four am at the absolute earliest. Sometimes it's
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six and seven am. So we don't know whether it's the inflammatory pattern to
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my symptoms, because quite often it's a common inflammatory pattern at night for people.
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When I lie and close my eyes, I have this constant vertigo spinning
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in my head. Anyway, when I close my eyes, this spinning builds
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up and builds up, and what tends to happen is it coincides with I
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get the a rhythmia in my heart, so I get these topic beats and
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very brief runs of my heart goes out of rhythm. They've seen it on
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the monitors in hospital, and they don't quite know what's going on. But
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basically essentially is I don't know quite which one happens first, whether it's the
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spinning in my head. I think it's the heartbeat, so I'll be trying
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to go to sleep, I'll get this heartbeat and then I think the spinning
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is a reaction, so they think it's the blood pressure dropping dramatically when my
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heart goes into the rhythm, and then I get this spinning and it basically
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jerks me up right and I have to sit up right and then my breathing
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and my heart rate returns to normal. Now, when it happens once or
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twice, it's uncomfortable and a little bit scary, you know. But unfortunately,
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when I'm having bad times, it happens so many times. I have
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to sit up all night. I just can't sleep because every time I'll go
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back, you know, it could be five minutes, ten minutes, fifteen
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minutes, the same thing will happen again, and it literally feels like you're
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going to die. It is that bad with my heart, you know.
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And then to stop it. If I sit up, my heart doesn't go
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into the arrhythmia. I don't get the spinning and falling sensation like you're falling
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off a cliff in my head. Yeah, and I sit up all night.
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So the problem what I've got is with my good days is on a
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good day, you know, I try and do things. I'm very limited
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functionally, so physically it's like a bucket. I've only got so much physical
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capability in a day and at present, you know, I'm able to make
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my breakfast and tea for myself. I also when I can look after my
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elderly mother. But between that and doing my washing and just trying to keep
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on top of the house and even attending hospital appointments, that's about my bucket.
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On an absolute fantastic day, I can walk two hundred and fifty yards
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to the local coffee shop and meet a friend or just sit there and get
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out of the house and meet people in the coffee shop, and that is
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a fantastic day to me. But the payoff that I get is the more
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I try and push myself through this pain with my legs and my heart,
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is it inflames my heart and it inflames my legs. So what happens is
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in that evening time. You know, if I've done more in that day,
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then what tends to happen is the problems in my heart tend to be
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hell of allse I don't sleep all night. The pain is getting to seven,
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eight, nine out of tens, which can last sometimes two or three
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hours, sometimes twelve hours, and then it just writes off the next few
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days. I mean I've even had to cancel hospital appointments on the day because
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I'm too sick to get there, Debra. It's like, you know,
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I'm just too ill to get to hospital appointments sometimes, so there'll only be
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things like you know, I'm under that many different specialists ender crime specialists,
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gastroentologists for some of my more minor symptoms. If you like, I just
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simply can't get there because I'm too sick to get there. You know,
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sometimes I'll phone patient transport in advance, but I don't like to do that
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because you know, I can mobilize on my good days. So it's like
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living in hell. And when you get those episodes, your whole life flashes
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before you again. You know, when I collapsed the first time, you
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know that was it, and you know, but when it happens, it's
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it's really frightening. And that's what reminds me every day that that's why it's
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important that I speak out, because if I do die in one of my
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sleep you know, shortly, then at least I know that I've tried to
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tell people what's happened, and I you know, I've done what I believe
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to be the right thing. Because I wasn't particularly religious before this although I
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believed in God or a higher power, because you know, I'm a good
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person and I believe you know that there are there is a good spirit and
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energy predominantly in the world. And since this has happened to me that I
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promised, you know, God or whoever you believe in, that you know,
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I promise that I'd do my best to get this out there, because
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no matter what you're believe in, you know it's simply not right. And
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the fact that these you know, as you refer to Astroseneka making millions,
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you know, this has happened to thousands of people, and nobody is researching
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why it's happened. The doctors have got no clue why it's happened. The
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government, Mastrosenica and Fizer and Maderna, they don't care. They just want
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to put more jobs in arms. I want to know why they can't research
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people like me and find what's wrong with this product and say, you know,
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if it was a car, if it was a plane that kept crashing,
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because let's be honest, this is like hundreds of planes crashing all the
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time, you know, they'd look into it and find out why. And
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that's all I want and I just want something positive to come out of what's
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happened to me. And I don't want this to happen to another child,
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God forbid, because I've had a good life, or another adult. And
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yeah, so that's why I do what I do. And we're incredibly grateful
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to you, Adam, because not are you having to fight for your life
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literally, but you're fighting on behalf of other people. You're putting on events,
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and we'll talk about that as we go forward, but you mentioned their
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cost, and the cost to you and all of the vaccine injured and bereaved
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physically, psychologically has been. I can't even I don't have a word to
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describe how immense it's been. But I want to actually address the elephant in
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the room, which is the financial cost, because this is a common theme
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that I'm hearing and as many people. If you're watching from a different country,
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the vaccine damage payment scheme in the United Kingdom awards a one off payment
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of one hundred and twenty thousand pounds if you can get it, which many
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people can't. However, Adam, you you had a stellar career with an
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amazing job, with what I would presume is a pretty decent salary, you
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had a house to run, you had your wife, you had a great
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life. Right, how much has this actually cost you. We're three years
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down the line now and you're not working. You've lost your job, you've
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lost your marriage, you've lost your home, you're caring for your elderly mother
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who's extremely unwell. So what are the financial costs in this? I'd just
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like to point out, you know, I was on a very good wage
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for the latter part of my career, but it took me a long time
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to get to that wage debby, So you know, I was on the
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above average wage for many years, so I was lucky. But then I
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was on a very high wage. So you know, I don't want to
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I'll make my wage conservative if you like, but I could easily have earned
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one hundred thousand pounds a year. I was earning between sixty and eighty because
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I was choosing quality of life from my family. So for the last three
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years, if I if I knock it down to sixty pounds a year,
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that's one hundred and eighty pounds of lost wages, lost income, and it's
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cost me forty thousand so far in private care and all the treatments and things
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that we've tried. So I've spent two hundred and twenty thousand pounds over the
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last three years to still be here and to try and improve my health.
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So yeah, the vaccine damage payment scheme is a huge fight to get.
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That's even if I get it, I've applied for it. Yeah, and
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I've spent one hundred thousand pounds more than that money already. The biggest thing
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I'd like to point out for people is, you know, I don't know
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because of my prognosis, I don't know how long I've got left. As
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of quite a lot of us. The biggest thing I struggle with is as
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a as a guy, know and stuff. Even though I've split with my
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family, you know, it gave me great pleasure in providing for my family.
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That's what you know. People, as partly we go to work for
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as well to help people and and stuff. But to be able to provide
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for your family and to have that taken away and then see your family,
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through no fault of their own, have to struggle financially because of no fault
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of what's happened to me and what's the trauma that they've been through because of
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me because this has happened to me. So you know, say I die
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tomorrow, Debbie, is why should they be left because of a vaccine out,
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you know, with no support when you know, if I'd have worked
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till I was sixty five or ever, you know, it was extremely fit
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my medical history back start up. There was no reason why we working till
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I was sixty five years of age and a good salary. You know,
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no one's going to look after my family. And like I say, it's
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not about money for me, Debit. The one hundred and twenty thousand,
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that's not going to bring my life back. But what it would do is
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it would allow me to have some more private treatment and ongoing chance of preventing
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the deterioration in my present health. Where the NHS and government are I can
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only assume trying to cover this up because I can't come for it. I
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can't come to any other conclusion on how I'm being treated. I can only
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treat the evidence as I find it. So yeah, it's not about money
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for me. It's never going to bring my health back. It's just about
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recognition and people doing the right thing and justice. I understand people made mistakes,
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you know, I've made mistakes in my life, and you know,
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with people, maybe I've looked after in hindsight, But you know what the
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reason I was so successful is I was always honest with people, and you
30:53
know, we learned the most in our mistakes. I always think when you
30:57
make a mistakes, you learn more than when things go well, if you're
31:00
prepared to. Some people aren't prefered to reflect, and that's what life's about.
31:06
It's about learning from mistakes and moving on. And that's what I find
31:10
really difficult to accept. There aren't many occasions before COVID that I could say
31:17
that I'd met so many angels in human form, but you're one of them,
31:22
and many of the vaccine injured are. Oh, I'm sorry everybody.
31:27
I do find this very difficult, and I don't even I can't even imagine
31:33
how difficult you must be finding this, Adam, and for people that are
31:37
watching as well, because the strain is huge. And I know, Adam,
31:47
that we've talked before, and I hope you don't mind if I reveal
31:51
this, but I know that you're incredibly grateful, incredibly grateful to your neighbors
31:59
and to your friends and to your family for bringing you takeaways and helping you
32:07
feed yourself, because basically you've got pretty much nothing left have you, so
32:14
you have to rely on the good will of others to help you out.
32:20
Can you tell us a little bit more about that. Yeah, so obviously
32:24
my physical health is unpredictable, and for me to look after myself on a
32:29
daily basis and just make meals, you know, we have to online grocery
32:32
shop because I'm not well enough to go to a grocery staff. I'm not
32:38
always capable of physically doing it because I mean so much pain and energy and
32:42
everything else. So there's times where I'm better addan and on those occasions,
32:49
you know, we have to find takeaways. And there's times where I live,
32:55
have to live on the ground floor now, so people bring they cook
33:00
me meals from down the road. They know what's happened to me, people
33:04
in my community, and they come to my bedroom window and deliver a coup
33:07
meal to me. Yeah, and that's the way things are. And I'd
33:14
just like to say everybody that's supported me online. I don't really tell many
33:19
people this, but the people who know me, who are close to me
33:22
know this. I do suffer with my mental health and to the point where
33:27
if it wasn't for everybody's support, then I couldn't keep going. There is
33:31
absolutely nowhere could keep going. People picked me up off the floor on a
33:35
daily and weekly basis. I can't tell you what we live through, and
33:40
there's people that's already committed suicide and I won't lie to you. You know,
33:46
the suffering that we go through. So everybody's support, they don't realize
33:53
it keeps me going and keeps me going and I just want to thank people
34:00
and that's not lost on me. And on the dark days, that's what
34:04
keeps me going. Yeah, I don't know whether w you want me to
34:09
go into what's happened on the biopsis since last year to explain where I'm up
34:15
to with the NHS, or whether you want to leave that today. I'm
34:17
not too sure. What I would like to do now, Adam, is
34:22
to pull myself together and ask you, what the what experience have you had
34:31
with the NHS, Because I'm presuming the NHS are calling everybody, all of
34:37
us healthy people in for tests, test test tests. They want us in
34:42
for this and in for that and in for the other. So I'm presuming
34:45
that the NHS are really looking after you well and that you're getting a social
34:52
package of help. And I would also expect the MHR to be in touch
35:01
with you because as we hear from the MHRA board meeting and Dame June Rain,
35:07
we can rely on them for safety and we can rely on them to
35:12
look after you and to regulate the product that you've had and the yellow card
35:16
of course that you've put in. I'm presuming you're in good touch with the
35:22
MHRA. What is the position with the NHS and the MHRA, adam So,
35:28
firstly, the MHRA send me an email. I strgoled to put my
35:34
yellow card in so every time, because I've had so many documented adverse reactions,
35:39
every time I put it into their computer system, it wouldn't accept it
35:44
and just would crash on the final page. So I'd spend an hour putting
35:47
in all the details etc. And it would crash. So I send them
35:52
an email of all my diagnosis and problems instead, I'd like to register this.
36:00
Responded to my email and asked me the permission for copies of all my
36:07
medical records to obviously verify all this. So, because my consultants have contracted
36:15
at Astrosenica and asked them if they'd want to research and find out what's going
36:21
on with this vaccine, and of course they didn't want to help. I
36:27
was just a bit guarded about just handing over all my medical documents to these
36:31
people, just because of I'm speaking openly on here. It's not about money
36:37
for me this, but should there ever be any court cases in the future
36:40
with my family, I just wanted to be, you know, guarded of
36:44
what I'm passing over to the people that injured me. So the MHRA I
36:51
emailed them back and said, can you tell me you know who will have
36:53
access to these documents? You know exactly in terms of the freedom of information,
36:59
what will happen with this informations? How will you process it? And
37:04
yeah, I sent them that back and they never answered me. And I
37:07
tried to follow it up with numerous emails and phone calls and I've never had
37:12
any response from them. So I have no position whatsoever. I don't know
37:16
what I M doing. I mean, anecdotally, I do know where Mara
37:22
are aware of me because of my presence on social media. They actually blocked
37:27
me on social media, so you know, to block me, and you
37:32
know my story and somebody made a freedom of information request and it turns out
37:39
they reported me to the UK Health Security Agency about spreading misinformation on the vaccines.
37:47
Well, anyone who knows me as I actually put evidence of my medical
37:52
records up on social media. So anyone like I say, so that's the
37:58
MHRA in terms of the NHS, Well I'll tell you the story and people
38:07
can make their own mind up. So a whole year ago I had the
38:10
muscle biopsies, which I got told or they're hardly going to show anything.
38:15
You know, we don't think you need them, but will reluctantly do them
38:17
anyway because you're getting sicker and sicker and we can see that. So the
38:22
results came back lit up like a Christmas tree. It came back that my
38:28
muscle fibers had the same appearance as somebody with a muscle disease, a genetic
38:35
muscle disease called my atonic dystrophe. It also came back that they had the
38:40
same appearance as somebody with another kind of muscle disease, myopathy. Now there's
38:45
thousands of captime kinds of muscle diseases called myopathy. That's myothropy just encompasses muscle
38:52
disease. So there's lots of types of myopathy that they can see it's a
38:58
muscle disease, but they don't fully under what it is yet. And then
39:02
finally it came back with something else which they've only admitted to me in February
39:07
this year, that basically they saw on my biopsies that my own immune system,
39:15
the part of your primitive immune system, your complements system, and in
39:20
particularly C five be to CE nine was all over my biopsies, basically attacking
39:25
the capillaries in my body and my muscle fibers. So they said to me
39:30
as well, that they've seen this. The only time they've seen it is
39:35
when they've done autopsies of the deceased people in COVID. They've found the exact
39:38
same thing in their organs as what was found in my muscle biopsies last year
39:44
and essentially as what killed people with COVID autopsy. So they said to me,
39:50
you know, what's going on with your you know, looks like the
39:52
same as what has killed people. So initially, off the back of the
39:59
biopsies a whole year ago, they just said, well, wow, you
40:01
know, this is extremely complex. We're going to have to have an MDT
40:06
meeting about Yeah. So I got a letter in July of last year to
40:12
say they were diagnosing with mytonic dystrophe, which is horrendous genetic disease, and
40:22
that's what I got. And then I got a phone call to say,
40:24
well, you don't present like you've got this genetic disease because obviously it's normally
40:30
genetic and it'd be passed down from your family and obviously there's none of that
40:34
in my family ever, and I don't physically present like I've got it.
40:39
So they said, we don't think you've got that, even though you buyopsually
40:43
show that. So a long story short, I've had to fight tooth and
40:47
nail because these tests are expensive. I had to fight for genetic blood tests.
40:54
And they have admitted to me verbally that they have seen on rare occasions
41:00
that vaccines and medications can cause genetic mutations in people and it shouldn't be possible,
41:07
but it can cause these these diseases. So they've admitted that to me.
41:12
At the moment in time I've had the blood test done. I had
41:15
to get my MP involved to complain to the hospital and put multiple letters in
41:21
to say, because they weren't going to test me genetically. They were just
41:23
going to say, we don't think you've got it, even though it showed
41:25
up. So they have agreed finally to do these blood tests. And I
41:30
had the blood test done in March of this year, so I hold,
41:36
how many months is that? You know? Nine ten months later they finally
41:42
agreed to do those blood tests, so that that's the diagnosis one my atonic
41:46
distroy Fee that obviously is a horrible nasty thing that kills people, affects the
41:52
heart, the lungs, etc. So then for the myopathy, I asked
41:59
for a second opinion because they just basically told me they you know, it's
42:04
they don't know how to treat it. There's not really much they can do.
42:07
So I went to Queen's Square in London, the National Neurological Hospital,
42:12
and got an opinion there, and then again they just said to me,
42:15
there's no treatment for your myopathy. Again, they agreed to do some expensive
42:21
blood tests. Again I haven't had the results back. That was in January
42:24
of this year, and they've sent those bloods off for testing on the chants
42:30
that they can recognize. It has been a type of muscle disease myopathy that
42:36
there's a treatment for, and they understand and they're gonna They've approached my local
42:43
hospital for samples of my blood, my muscle that is frozen there in the
42:47
biobank so they can study it and look if there's anything to be done.
42:52
But basically they've discharged, not discharged me. They're going to see me once
42:57
a year in London, and I've gotten named nurse in the meantime, but
43:00
they just said there's no treatment for what you've got. We can only treat,
43:05
you know, refer you to cardiology or refer you to other specialties and
43:08
treat the symptoms as you know, if they start to affect your heart,
43:12
longs, et cetera. So that's where I am on that. And then
43:16
my local hospital, who basically I've been pushing them for treatment since last year
43:25
and still not had any from you know, my MP actually wrote into the
43:30
hospital and asked them. You know, she said, you know, this
43:35
gentleman has done the right thing. He did the vaccine what the government asked
43:37
and he's you know, he's two and a half years in and nobody's treating
43:43
him. She asked for the mergent le to get an MDT together and come
43:46
up with a treatment plan and a plan of action for me. She wrote
43:51
that letter in October last year. Now it took place unbeknown to me.
43:55
I was never present. I don't know the minutes of that meeting. It
44:00
took place in February of this year, you know, a whole four months
44:04
after she wrote that letter. And I've got a phone call from them to
44:09
say, because I've got a muscle disease, it's landed on the muscle disease
44:15
professor's desk. There is a neurologist. I've got a phone call to say,
44:21
well, we've had a conversation about you, and we think high dose
44:27
steroids and immune suppressant drugs to the way forward for you, because basically,
44:35
you know, what you've got is hugely complex. You've got so many things
44:38
going on. Like I say, it's now in the last year. I've
44:44
got evidence that it's damaged and damaging all the small bull vessels in my heart
44:49
from when I had heart catheter in March. My kidney function is now decreasing.
44:55
So they want me to go to a nephrologist because I've got small vessel
45:00
disease or it appears that way in my kidneys. So they all had the
45:07
meeting and I was under a long COVID doctor within Show Hospital. So the
45:13
neurologists said, well, you've got all these neurological problems, but we don't
45:16
think it's primarily a neurological problem. We think you all your small blood vessel
45:22
disease. Because I saw a vascular surgeon last year we felt I had small
45:25
blood vessel disease. He referred me to rheumatology that got rejected. They said,
45:31
we think it's a schemic and it's coming from this auto immune and that's
45:36
destroying your blood vessels basically, as our best guess, and that's why you've
45:39
got neurological problems. So as neurologists, we're probably not the best people to
45:44
treat you. So they said, we would like the long covid doctor who's
45:49
been fighting for you to treat you and supervise hydro steroids and immune drugs.
45:54
I then got a letter from the long covid doctor another hospital in Manchester to
46:00
say that the clinical director of Women's Show Hospital basically had forbid her from me
46:07
being treated by her anymore. I should never have been seeing her Long COVID
46:13
Clinic because I'm vaccine injured and they think that my health is too complex,
46:20
and she isn't you know, skilled and suitable enough person to basically supervise this
46:28
experiment of steroids and immune drugs on me. Because bear in my Deborah as
46:32
well, is I've been chronically immune suppressed since this began. You know,
46:37
I only found this out because I get letters from the NHS, so they've
46:42
done tests on me to show that I've got you know, my B cells
46:45
are worse than a person with HIV. I get a letter to say,
46:50
I'm on the immune you know, the immune high risk and if I catch
46:52
something, to go to hospital immediately and present this letter. No dotsors have
46:57
ever told me that. So anyway, I get a letter from there.
47:01
She's not allowed to I'm too complex. I shouldn't have been seen in the
47:07
Long COVID clinic. You know, she's not allowed to see me. So
47:10
I get a letter to say she's going to refer me to the Vasculitis Service,
47:16
you know, because of this suspected blood problem and my own immune system
47:22
attacking itself. I've since found out the Vasculitis Service has rejected mar referral again.
47:28
They rejected it last year off the vascular surgeon. So at this moment
47:34
you could say that I'm homeless as a patient on the NHS. I mean,
47:40
thank goodness. I keep writing in emails to the doctor's secretaries and appealing
47:45
to their better nature. I've received a letter this morning actually to say that
47:54
they're now laboring me as a multi organ, multi system inflammatory syndrome off the
48:00
vaccine, and the consultant has put in his letter this morning that he's going
48:07
to try and refer me to another roomatology service, even though being rejected by
48:12
two because everybody these rhematology service look at my case and go, we don't
48:15
know what to do with him. He said he'll try again for me,
48:21
but he suspects it might ounce back and might come back to him because nobody
48:24
else wants to look after me, and nobody wants to take responsibility for me.
48:30
He did say in his letter, interestingly enough, which I really respect
48:35
him for seeing this, that they're starting to see quite a few with the
48:39
same clinical presentation in the neurology clinic and other clinics in the hospital like me.
48:46
So I really appreciated his honesty in that letter that I received, and
48:53
then just to add this in just for the context of viewers and stuff.
49:00
I hope it's not too confusing for the viewers to understand. But essentially,
49:06
there's a test on the NHS called the spike protein antibodies test you can get.
49:12
So I've had my measured and it was three hundred times the upper limits
49:16
of the test. They actually commented that they were not able to measure my
49:22
antibodies any higher because they haven't got the facility to it to do that,
49:28
so they can only say that that's the limit of what they could measure.
49:32
Now there's some argument, and I'm not an expert on this, but a
49:36
lot of the people will say, a lot of the doctors will say that
49:39
you make the antibodies in relation to the spike protein. So that was the
49:43
idea of the vaccine. You produce your own spike protein. Off the vaccine,
49:47
you produce high antibodies, and that protects you from getting COVID. So
49:52
what should have happened with the idea of the boosters is the antibody is weighing
49:57
because you stop making spike protein. Therefore you keep having another boost. Now
50:01
it tends to be in a lot of the injured. We've still got these
50:07
massively high spike protein antibodies, which tend to indicate we've still got massive amout
50:12
of spike protein in our body and or we still may be making it.
50:16
Our bear in mind, in the human body, we've got trillions of cells,
50:22
so we don't know how many may be infected permanently or still making it.
50:27
God forbid. Now, I don't know much about HIV, so if
50:31
I go on, I'll try and make this brief. In HIV, they
50:35
actually use the antibody test to determine their use of whether they prescribe you drugs
50:42
and you know whether you're infected. That's what they use antibodies. Now,
50:46
there's other tests that aren't available in this country. They are available in Germany
50:51
because the German government are the only country in the world have come out and
50:53
admitted there's a problem with these vaccines and that are studying vaccine injured people.
51:00
So in Germany you can actually pay for tests that tests the spike protein in
51:05
the blood, in parts of the immune system, in the exozones, which
51:09
are something in the cell that transmits extracellul and intracellular so it gives you a
51:16
picture of what's going on inside the cells, which is a big problem to
51:20
try and measure spike protein because the spike protein isn't just floating around the body
51:24
unless it's acute or you're still making it. It's stuck in cells of the
51:29
myocytes, of the heart, the endothelium, you name it, you know,
51:34
all kinds of tissue, the receptors on the neurological system. So they're
51:37
finding in people that are shipping their blood off to Germany that they can also
51:42
test the presence of the mRNA from the vaccines there, and they're finding people
51:46
have still got massive amounts of spike protein and some people, it would indicate
51:51
from the mr and A status, are still making spike protein. And just
51:55
to back that up a little bit, because you know, I don't want
51:59
people saying that I'm talking a load of rubbish. I'm happy to be proven
52:01
wrong. And these are the questions I would beg a government that was,
52:06
you know, trying to help people to do the right thing. Carlo Browner
52:10
published a study in twenty twenty three of August. He studied healthcare workers in
52:15
Italy and found fifty percent of them was still producing spike protein. Six months
52:21
after the last vaccine. He actually had to close the study. He cited
52:28
that it was for financial reasons. They stopped testing these people and they didn't
52:32
follow up longer than six months to still see whether they're making it. Now,
52:37
I mentioned this to doctors and my NHS appointments, and it's like they
52:42
go completely mute. They are not willing to answer that question, or it
52:47
seems even think about it now. I again, I've had private answers because
52:54
I speak to doctors all around the world because luckily me being on social media.
53:00
That is one positive thing that's come out of it. Again, it's
53:05
it's in its infancy over this last year. But the general consensus is,
53:08
unfortunately, it looks like there is a portion of the people that took the
53:14
vaccine who are still producing despite protein and therefore have got some ongoing genetic modification
53:22
from these vaccines. And that is what people are thinking and finding. Yeah,
53:30
and I've thrown a lot in there, but that's that's where I'm upting
53:35
where I live with and the NHS. Basically, I don't think I want
53:40
to know, because you know, i'd argue, is there a conflict of
53:46
interest? The government pushed all these vaccines. The NHS, you know,
53:52
are the government, and that's where I'm up to. This is this is
53:58
our lives and people playing god with our lives, and we're not going to
54:02
get the treatment on the NHS. We're basically just been left. I just
54:08
I don't understand these people why they would do it. Where are you now,
54:15
Dame June Rain, Where are you now? Dr Allison Cave? All
54:21
of these experts that told you to protect the vulnerable. You did what you
54:28
were told to do, Adam, and I want to know where and what
54:34
these people that are responsible are going to do about it. And we certainly
54:38
won't keep our ar we will carry on forever. And what you're describing there
54:45
is something that professed Flowers described when people were being diagnosed with long COVID.
54:52
He called it spike protein disease. So that completely backs up everything that you've
54:59
just said. And what I find even more startling is when we hear the
55:04
likes of the MHRA and the NHS talking about personalized care. We're all going
55:10
to get personalized care. You're not getting personalized care because basically there is no
55:20
care for you. And like I've said before, it's like you're being passed
55:25
around in this wicker basket from hematologists to cardiologists to neurologists, and it just
55:34
goes on and on. And because we don't have anybody in any health system,
55:38
I believe with the title Vaccine Injury Consultant that can oversee these multiple problems
55:49
that all of you are having somebody that can case manage every single one of
55:54
you, that can personalize your care, can personalize your treatment, because the
56:01
story that I hear from all of you is not only are you having to
56:07
manage your lives with the most horrific illnesses, but you're having to micro manage
56:12
these appointments and truant sport and how you get back or if you're going to
56:16
be admitted, And it's just a complete minefield. And I know that one
56:22
of the things that you're very keen to do, and you're very humble person.
56:29
And I have to just remind our viewers and listeners that Adam doesn't want
56:32
to really give out any details about any donate pages that he has because every
56:38
bit of money that he's raising is going towards COVID Vaccine Injured for general use.
56:45
But I know one of your dreams, Adam, is this special tell
56:51
us about this blood cleaning therapy and how much it would cost in order for
56:57
you to go through a course of blood cleansing therapies. Yeah, so a
57:06
lot of people with long COVID particularly and also people with vaccine injury. They've
57:10
been going over to Germany and a German clinic in Cyprus. So the Germans
57:16
are the only sort of ones studying this. And there's various therapies that basically
57:23
take out the whole blood in somebody's body and filter it out, and they
57:28
can filter out things like the micro clots and the clots, and they can
57:34
filter out the spite proteins and the antibodies, the inflammatory antibodies and the things
57:39
in the immune system that are attacking self. So a lot of people have
57:45
been over there and had a number of treatments. The treatments are just under
57:50
sort of two thousand pounds a time. Now. I did send my medical
57:57
records to them and have spoke to them a couple of times times over zoom,
58:01
and to be honest with you that they did suggest that I would need
58:04
a minimum of twelve treatments because of the severity of my injuries, whereas the
58:10
average treatments around about six treatments. Now, I would like to say that
58:17
people have been incredibly generous to me last time and all the way through this,
58:23
and I've already raised quite a large sum of money, but I didn't
58:27
realize when I set it up, for example, that go fundme take such
58:30
a huge percentage. But anyway, last year I traveled to the US and
58:36
spent a large portion of that money on stem cell treatment, which unfortunately didn't
58:40
help. So I kept the remainder of that money, which was ten thousand
58:49
pounds just over And I don't take people's money lightly. I've never wanted to
58:53
spend it where I felt like the odds of something working wouldn't be a valid
59:00
you and reduce so all the supplements I buy and everything else. I'm lucky
59:04
enough to be able to do that with my benefits and with the help from
59:07
people that give me them at reduced prices and things like that. So I
59:13
want to continue this fight, and I don't know whether that's going to cure
59:17
me, but I speak to people that have been and it's definitely helped them.
59:23
So I feel like I'm basically running out of options because the other option
59:30
was IVIG intraveno samuna goloblins, which doesn't cure people. That's ten pounds a
59:37
month, and in the USA it's helping a lot of the vaccine injured.
59:43
My doctors overdid over here did ask the NHS for it on my behalf because
59:47
they felt it could help my immune system because it neutralizes the spike protein is
59:52
what people think. Unfortunately, the NHS won't pay for it for me because
59:58
it's a scarce commodity ten pounds a month, and obviously probably if they give
1:00:01
it to me, the floodgates would open to everybody. So even though my
1:00:07
doctors have put an independent patient request form into NHS single and they've told me
1:00:10
the likelihood of it being granted and next to zero. Even though there's evidence
1:00:16
of it helping people with acute COVID that nearly you know, to stop them
1:00:21
dying and long COVID, and lots of evidence in America it helps actually injury,
1:00:24
the NHS just won't cover it. So I can't get IVIG, which
1:00:29
would be the number one. So yeah, the blood washing is all I'm
1:00:35
left with, Deborah, and it's a huge cost. But I would like
1:00:38
to go over this summer and have that treatment because yeah, there's nothing else
1:00:45
for me, there's nothing else to try, so yeah, I would like
1:00:51
to untry that treatment. So we're going to pup up your donate page,
1:00:59
Adam, and I know that you didn't want us to because of the reasons
1:01:02
that you've just spoken about, but we're going to. And i'd be really
1:01:07
grateful for everybody watching this second interview with Adam. Please share this and if
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you like what we do, please encourage more people to join, because the
1:01:22
more we get people to join, the more news we can put out and
1:01:24
the more vaccine injured we can speak to because we must never ever ever let
1:01:31
the vaccine injured and the vaccine bereaved be forgotten, and we won't. I
1:01:37
know from speaking to you before that your MP has been pretty active and she's
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been trying to get a lot of attention from Rishie Sunak, but basically she's
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just being paid lip service and she's getting absolutely nowhere. Yeah, so myself
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and John what we saw that there was going to be a Prime minister's question
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time on gb News said his peace, which was fantastic. The Prime Minister,
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if she's soon, I promised live on air that he didn't realize we
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were all censored. Of course he didn't, and he didn't realize that,
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you know that we'd been trying to contact him via various mediums. Of course
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he didn't, but he promised live on air that he would look into our
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cases, take our details and get back to us. So from that moment,
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really I contacted his office VI your phone calls at Westminister. I left
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messages explaining the situation that really seen I could promise me live on air that
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he was going to look into my case and here's my details, and you
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know, I look forward to getting back to me. Obviously, I never
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got any calls in return from his office. He mailed his office at Westminister
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and up in the northeast his constituency office. I got a few acknowledgments to
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say they received it incredibly busy, blah blah blah, an automated message.
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Again I got nowhere. So, of course this was now over three months
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ago and we still not heard anything. So my MP has been trying to
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help me religiously after seeing what's happened to me and seeing how I'm being treated
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by the NHS and the government, because she has actually in her time contacting
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three of the different health secretaries we've had since the beginning of COVID. I've
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had an email of one that said they would help me. It was Steve
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Barkley. Unfortunately he's left office and never did help me. I think the
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other two verbally agreed to look into my case and help me, but again
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they never did. So my MP decided that, you know, I showed
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her the video with Rishie Sunac and she's seen enough evidence her self that you
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know, we're not getting to help we deserve. So she promised to bring
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it up in question time, which she did about six weeks ago. Now.
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She brought it up to Penny Moreen and said, you know, the
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Prime Minister knows about us. She's seen the emails and records of the phone
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calls are made, and she can see that he's not responded to me.
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So she brought up that case and she did mention that you know, we
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need help in the NHS and helping us, and she brought that case up.
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But again, sadly, I've had and we've had no response to these
1:04:20
ongoing requests for help. Absolutely shocking, but you know what, Bravo,
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bravo all of you and this is what These are the lengths that vaccine injured
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are having to go to. Bravo, Bravo to all of you. Where
1:04:36
are you now? Is she Suna? Where are any of them going to
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be? My constituent, Adam Rowland recently met the Prime Minister who promised live
1:04:45
on television no Less that he would be in touch with him regarding his negative
1:04:49
reaction to the COVID vaccine and difficulty accessing the treatment that has been recommended on
1:04:55
the NHS. Since then, despite repeated requests, Adam has had no response
1:04:59
from any one in government and feels like he's been treated as some sort of
1:05:02
pariah and anti vax conspiracy theorist. He's not. He's just the man who
1:05:06
did the right thing in taking up the vaccine and was one of the unfortunate
1:05:11
minority who became ill and he needs some support. Will the Leader of the
1:05:15
House please help Adam get the response he was promised? Well, I will
1:05:20
of course absolutely do that, and if the Honorable Lady will give me the
1:05:25
details, I shall follow that up straight after this session. Those that were
1:05:30
injured by vaccines do need access to support and healthcare and answers, and we
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should ensure that they get that. Can I can? I? Can we
1:05:42
just rewind? Honestly, my brain is spinning. Did you say that the
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MHRA had blocked you and you've been reported to the uk HSA. I'm so
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sorry. Can we just rewind a little bit? Could you just explain?
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Yeah? So's it's ridiculous, quite frankly. So obviously I'm vocal on social
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media. Everything I say on social media, Debbie comes from a good place,
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as in, you know, it's about getting some kind of justice and
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being heard for the vaccine injured. So quite often, you know, when
1:06:21
we finally startling information about how, you know, the clinical trials and things
1:06:27
like that, and how we're being ignored, censored and everything, we will
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tag MHR in it because you know, as the regulatory body, we hope
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that would protect us. You know, it's sort of appealing for them for
1:06:40
help. So I found out that I went on MHRA after tagging them,
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and I found out I was blocked, which was quite staggering because why was
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I blocked? When you'd think they, like we were saying earlier, that
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they'd be interested in people like me to try and investigate and learn from and
1:07:01
protect the UK public So we then found out that they'd been blocking every single
1:07:09
vaccine injured person on social media who had said anything against the vaccines being unsafe
1:07:15
or anything. But we were all people that are medically certified vaccine injured.
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So I had no idea why they were blocking us. So there was a
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big thing on social media about it that the MHRA. There was loads of
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us, you know, Alex Machel, everybody was locked by the MHRA.
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So there's a gentleman on social media who is quite verbal and investigates the harms
1:07:40
from psychiatric drugs. So we actually did a freedom of information request and wanted
1:07:45
to know why we were blocked and asked more information regarding this, and we
1:07:49
were staggered to find out that we were all had been locked and reported to
1:07:57
the UK Health Security Agency. You know what has been some kind of threat
1:08:06
to the UK. I just do not know why and understand. So after
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he made this request and it all became public on social media, and you
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know, he published this request and found out why we were all being blocked.
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The laughable thing was about a week later they unblocked us all, you
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know, because I put on like you know, I put all of my
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social media it's not a very good look that the people that are supposed to
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protect us and investigating are actually blocking us. You know, so because everybody
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was like, wow, why they're blocking these people? You know, and
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then the freedom of information request and it came transparent why they blocked us.
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It ended a year urn because you know, it wasn't very good publicity for
1:08:49
them. I would imagine, you cannot make this up. You really cannot
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make this up. I'm not even gonna ask you if you've contact with Doc
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Henrietta Hughes or whether she's blocked you as well, because it is just so
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incredulous. But I want our viewers and listeners to know that this is happening.
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This is real. This doesn't need fact checking. This is these are
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the facts. Unbelievable, Adam, totally unbelievable. But it's like, you
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know, all these people need to do is speak to people like me.
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Then there'll be no people making you know, all you have to do is
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come speak to us and do their jobs, right, That's it got to
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say. I think this is a really important message for everybody, everybody,
1:09:39
wherever you are, whichever country you're in. You know, the bravery of
1:09:45
the vaccine injured. Speaking out is raising is raising the alarm for every single
1:09:50
one of us, every single person on this planet. You are the walking
1:09:58
evidence. You you are the truth. These are your lives. This isn't
1:10:05
about data, this isn't about statistics. Every single piece of data and every
1:10:12
single statistic is a person, is a life, is a human being,
1:10:15
and that's what we've got to remember. I mean, I'm just utterly shocked,
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utterly shocked, but thank you so much for sharing that with us,
1:10:25
Adam, thank you. I just want to ask you, is there anything
1:10:30
that we've I've forgotten to ask you, or is there anything that you would
1:10:33
like to say before your final word? No, I apologize if I jumped
1:10:40
around a lot for the viewers, and I might sound confusing, because you
1:10:44
know, I'm very emotional and I'm trying to you know, I'm from a
1:10:48
medical background and I've just got to try and remember it's confusing for people to
1:10:51
understand. Obviously, if anybody wanted to contact me for more information and more
1:10:58
than willing to share it helps people, I would just like to I know
1:11:02
you've had John Watt on recently, If you don't mind, I'd just like
1:11:06
to put a plug in for the event on Sunday that myself, John Watt,
1:11:11
and Alex Mitchell. There are three people being injured by the vaccine and
1:11:15
we've been incredibly fortunate our see wel Hotre, Dr John Campbell, dot To
1:11:19
Teina Pears and with the MPs up in Scotland Neil Hanby are all supporting free
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of charge. So we've put this event on for two reasons. Really,
1:11:31
it's to keep this thing going and try and give people like me hope that
1:11:36
there are people fighting and doing things behind the scenes, so that's the purpose
1:11:42
of it. And then the other is all the tickets that we sell.
1:11:45
Unfortunately, we're not going to raise as much money as we would have liked
1:11:47
because of the venue size and how many tickets we've sold, etc. All
1:11:53
the money is going to the vaccine injured. So you know, there's somebody
1:11:57
in my mind that hopefully the money that we raise and I've got a little
1:12:01
bit of a saying where that money goes, that I can buy a piece
1:12:04
of equipment for somebody that will really improve their quality of life. So the
1:12:10
event will be recorded. We're paying somebody to record the event, so hopefully
1:12:15
we can release some of the things there, all these people who are appearing
1:12:19
a seam and door, Campbell and stuff. We thank them from the bottom
1:12:24
of my heart and our hearts that they're prepared to fight for us too,
1:12:30
DeBie, just like you, and it means so much to us. And
1:12:33
we just hope that you know, we can click that out because we're going
1:12:38
to have interviews with everybody in the first half of the show, and the
1:12:42
second half will be a Q and A from the audience, so anyone in
1:12:45
the audience can ask whatever question they want to any one of us, any
1:12:49
of the doctors, any of the people have been injured, and yeah,
1:12:55
and we just hope it's a great event and it'd be nice to think that
1:13:00
something like this could keep happening. We shouldn't have to do it. We
1:13:03
shouldn't have to do it, but if we don't do it, nobody else
1:13:08
will. So we're trying our best. I'd just like to plug that,
1:13:11
so thank you, and you know, Adam, what we say right back
1:13:16
at you is nothing about you without you. And on that note, it's
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over to you, Adam. Thank you so much for your last word.
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I would just like to appeal Debbie to the doctors. So if there's any
1:13:32
doctors listening within the NHS or anybody use a family friend a doctor. I'd
1:13:42
just like to suggest to you now that you know, I speak to doctors
1:13:45
in the NHS and they tell me they seem more and more of people like
1:13:48
me. I appreciate that mistakes have been made, and I'm not trying to
1:13:55
point the fingers at you guys, but I really feel like you guys are
1:13:58
the only ones that can change. So what I mean by that is I
1:14:02
would like you somehow to speak to your peers or come out collectively or even
1:14:08
individually, and just come out and just raise the alarm and just say we've
1:14:15
got a bit of a problem here. Not for me, because it's not
1:14:19
going to change things for me, but I just want you to think that
1:14:25
if you don't say anything, this is going to continue to happen, because
1:14:29
this technology will be used again and these injuries will just be happening in another
1:14:34
guise, another format. I'd just like you to think about why you got
1:14:40
into medicine and why you do what you want to do. So that's my
1:14:47
message, really, Debra, is you know you need to say something isn't
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right, because this thing's just going to get worse and worse and worse.
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And I really, you know, I fear for people. I really do