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The Fifth Hour: An Author & a Fighter · The Ben Maller Show

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  Speaker 1: Kubbooms.
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  Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
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  Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
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  Speaker 2: of the Old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He
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  Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
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  Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special.
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  Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.
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  Speaker 1: In the air everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Maller and Danny G
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  Speaker 3: Radio who is away And we have another Danny. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna welcome here in a second. But it is the
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  Speaker 3: eighteenth day of a The NBA playoffs begin tomorrow, and
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  Speaker 3: I am not into the playing experience, so we'll focus
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  Speaker 3: on that when the time comes. But hanging out with us,
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  Speaker 3: and we're gonna take you on a wild journey through
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  Speaker 3: the time space continuum. Another Danny, not Danny G, but
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  Speaker 3: Danny Efron, who I should I should preface this by saying,
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  Speaker 3: you have insider information, Danny, because I have known you
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  Speaker 3: your entire life and you have known me my entire life,
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  Speaker 3: because we were related.
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  Speaker 4: So exactly, we.
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  Speaker 3: Go back, we go back, and you've got a crazy
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  Speaker 3: story that I've actually kind of told your story a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, Danny, but I haven't gone into the full
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  Speaker 3: depth of your story. So you're going to hang out
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  Speaker 3: with us, and you are you consider yourself a New Yorker?
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  Speaker 1: You were not born in New York, but you grew up.
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  Speaker 4: I do consider myself a New Yorker because my formative
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  Speaker 4: years were all spent in New York from seven to eighteen, so,
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  Speaker 4: you know, going through my bar Mitzvah adolescence, you know,
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  Speaker 4: being a huge sports fan, playing high school ball. You know, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: New York was it for me. So I still claim
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  Speaker 4: New York.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And I have given you our time because, unlike
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  Speaker 3: like all the other New York people, usually if you're
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  Speaker 3: a if you're a Yankees fan, you're a Giants fan,
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  Speaker 3: and if you're a Mets fan, you're you're a Jets fan.
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  Speaker 1: But you've crossed the streams, Danny.
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  Speaker 4: I have. Yeah, Well, it's a Yankees fan because I
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  Speaker 4: grew up right on that side of you know, Westsire County,
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  Speaker 4: like twenty minutes from the stadium. And then I'm a
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  Speaker 4: Jets fan because my best friend growing up had season
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  Speaker 4: tickets to the Jets, so he would take me every Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: So I have a lot of heartache on that side.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, if you had had a Giants fan
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  Speaker 3: here you you would have been a Giants fan and
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  Speaker 3: all that exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Trust me. After this last couple of seasons, I'm kind
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  Speaker 4: of mad at my friend for that.
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  Speaker 3: But I know you were actually you actually believed you
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  Speaker 3: were drinking the kool aid, the green kool aid for
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I was big time. I got the jersey
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  Speaker 4: and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And now, well obviously it didn't work out so well.
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  Speaker 3: And hey, you are a next fan and the next begin. Hey, tomorrow,
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  Speaker 3: the Knicks are a seven point favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know, Danny.
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  Speaker 3: The Knicks did not exactly impress me down the stretch here.
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  Speaker 3: They they should beat the Pistons.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I hear you. I think they'll beat the Pistons.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think, you know, championships on our plate this year,
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  Speaker 4: but I think that we were full health nil Mitchell
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  Speaker 4: Robinson's back. I think I think we can go through
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  Speaker 4: the Pistons pretty. I wouldn't say his light work, but
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  Speaker 4: I would say five or six games.
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  Speaker 3: Five or six games, all right, there you go put
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  Speaker 3: your money down. Nix are favorite by seven seven in
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  Speaker 3: the first game. Today's National World Amateur Radio Day. I
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  Speaker 3: had to mention that because my dad and your uncle Danny,
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  Speaker 3: this was his life's passion, was ham radio and today's
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  Speaker 3: National Ham Radio. There is a day for everything but
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  Speaker 3: National hand Radio today Today eighteen eighty eight, somebody named
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  Speaker 3: Henry Henry Rudolph. I don't even know who that is,
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  Speaker 3: but he proved the existence of radio waves, which in
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  Speaker 3: many ways, not only my it was my dad's hobby,
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  Speaker 3: but my entire professional career has been based on on
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  Speaker 3: most of the radio stuff. So but yeah, so national.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how you celebrate National Ham Radio Day.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We have some Ham radio guys.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess us the Morse code a
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  Speaker 4: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: That was my problem.
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  Speaker 3: You know. My dad wanted me to get into Ham radio,
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  Speaker 3: and I back in those days when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 3: you had to get a license, and I was so stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out Morse code. I couldn't. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: It's so if now I don't think you have to
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  Speaker 3: do it anymore. I think I probably get a Ham
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  Speaker 3: radio license now, but when I was younger, like I
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  Speaker 3: can be on a commercial radio and that's fine, but
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  Speaker 3: actual like Ham radio, I'm not qualified.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't at the time, so and yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you probably chose a better route though.
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  Speaker 1: Well financially it's not. Okay, it's been a it's been
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  Speaker 1: a while.
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  Speaker 3: It's a there's also National Animal Cracker Day today on
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  Speaker 3: this Friday, so National Cracker Day.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: The great thing about animal crackers, Danny, is they give
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  Speaker 3: you a giant bag of them. Right, It's like the
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  Speaker 3: biggest bat. It's like the size of Florida. The bag
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  Speaker 3: of animal crackers. You get, right, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and they got all different kinds. They got
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  Speaker 4: the frosted ones, they got the sprinkled ones. So big
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  Speaker 4: animal crackers.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. Did you know those go back to
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  Speaker 3: the uh the animal crackers mid eighteen made eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: It's been around for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, I expect that. But yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They were invented in the United Kingdom and then actually
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  Speaker 3: eventually exported to to America and they the first commercial.
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  Speaker 3: This is the kind of crap we do in the
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  Speaker 3: fifth hour, Dany. Yeah, out here, the Great Danny Efron
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  Speaker 3: hanging out with us. But the first commercial produce for
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  Speaker 3: animal crackers was eighteen seventy one.
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  Speaker 1: So that was in New York, Pennsylvania and there.
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  Speaker 4: And when you say commercial, was it, like, uh, I
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  Speaker 4: mean was it? I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Must have been a newspapers, right, because there was no.
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  Speaker 4: Well exactly, yeah, it had to be a newspaper.
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  Speaker 1: There was no There was no radio. There was no
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  Speaker 1: television radio.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe there's a guy in the streets is yelling,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 3: I just go down and get those things in scream,
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  Speaker 3: start screaming, and the town crier. Yeah, that's right, the
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  Speaker 3: town that's the way to go. You gotta do the
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  Speaker 3: town crier for sure. So anyway, you know your part.
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  Speaker 3: Now you've had an amazing ser I often on the
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  Speaker 3: radio show, I will mock people. They'll they'll say the
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  Speaker 3: Willis Reid game, you know, they'll talk about some athlete
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  Speaker 3: overcoming adversity and they'll they'll go on and I roll
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  Speaker 3: my eyes. I roll my eyes when I see that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I say, oh, come on, that's just hyperbole.
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing? You know, it's nonsense.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the reasons I bring that up is
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  Speaker 3: because your story, Danny, is insane. It is awesome, it
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  Speaker 3: is fantastic. I think people need to hear about it.
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  Speaker 3: I've told it a little bit, but my man, you
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  Speaker 3: have you talk about a roller coaster h in life,
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  Speaker 3: and you have been able to ride the roller coaster,
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  Speaker 3: and you've had some real downs. You've had some some
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  Speaker 3: greats that have happened. But we need to tell your story.
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  Speaker 3: So you have had well, I want you to tell
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  Speaker 3: your story, but you've had some two major, really bad
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  Speaker 3: things that have happened.
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  Speaker 1: That a lot of people would not have recovered from.
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  Speaker 1: Explain what happened.
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  Speaker 4: So I am a two time glioblastoma brain cancer survivor
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  Speaker 4: for the most aggressive form of cancer. I was first
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  Speaker 4: told in twenty fifteen I had two to five years
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  Speaker 4: to live. I of course would not accept that timeline.
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  Speaker 4: I thought, did everything I could, changed my diet, researched, ever,
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  Speaker 4: cancer fighting remedy, went to traditional method. I was cancer
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  Speaker 4: free for seven years, and then in twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 4: cancer came back, this time with a vengeance against stage
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  Speaker 4: four glioblastoma, and I had a stroke this time as well.
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  Speaker 4: So not only did I have to have surgery and
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  Speaker 4: you know radiation. But I suffered a massive stroke that
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  Speaker 4: left me hallucinating for three months. It got to the point,
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  Speaker 4: you know where I was. I look at myself in
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  Speaker 4: the mirror and looked like the left side of my
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  Speaker 4: face was blown up off with the shotgun. I'd look
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  Speaker 4: at my son and his face looked like smeared shut.
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  Speaker 4: I was a horror show I was living in, really,
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I power through because one thing I
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  Speaker 4: believe in is fighting. You fight what gets in front
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  Speaker 4: of you. You fight to be successful, and that is
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  Speaker 4: what I do. So after that, you know, I was
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  Speaker 4: basically blind for three months. It's kind of like on
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  Speaker 4: a sliding scale. It got from better to basically where
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  Speaker 4: I just had a pinhole vision. The rest was like
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  Speaker 4: a kaleidoscope of color where I was able to heal myself.
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  Speaker 4: And then three months later or six months later, I
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  Speaker 4: was standing in front of Congress helping pass cancer fighting
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  Speaker 4: legislation and passing over ten billion dollars in research funding
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  Speaker 4: and prevention legislation. That is all I've Yeah, I've made
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  Speaker 4: the most out of what the hand that was given
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  Speaker 4: to me. And in honor of of course, your aunt,
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  Speaker 4: your uncle, and my aunt, your mother. You know, cancer
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  Speaker 4: has played a huge role, unfortunately in our lives and
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  Speaker 4: then but you know it affected me on such a deeper,
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  Speaker 4: lever but level. But you know I made most that
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  Speaker 4: I fight through, you know, lahaian to life. You know,
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  Speaker 4: make the best out of it. So that's what I do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, And and so you get that diagnosis. I
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  Speaker 3: mean that's like, that's like the you know, you're like,
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  Speaker 3: holy crap, you know, dude, what do you do? But
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  Speaker 3: then you overcame it the first time, and I need
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  Speaker 3: to get into the because I I'm gonna I'm gonna put.
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  Speaker 1: Myself in your story.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So when you got diagnosed the second time with cancer,
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  Speaker 3: we were all like, you know, when I found out
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  Speaker 3: about we were all freaking. I was like, dude, I
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  Speaker 3: got to see my guy, my my my cousin. So
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  Speaker 3: you were living in Phoenix at the time. So I
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  Speaker 3: left on like a Friday just to go hang out
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  Speaker 3: with you, like just to go to Phoenix for the day.
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  Speaker 3: And if you remember, I was I was in your
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  Speaker 3: house when you had a freaking stroke.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even were there, that's right, Like, what was
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  Speaker 4: crazy is I didn't even know I had a stroke
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  Speaker 4: get and then we were driving to the restaurant. I
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  Speaker 4: remember driving up the road with you. I wasn't driving,
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  Speaker 4: of course you were, but at one second it felt
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  Speaker 4: like I was going north the next bacon, and second
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  Speaker 4: I felt like I was going out. It was like
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  Speaker 4: my compass I was spinning and I didn't even know
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  Speaker 4: what was going on. And you were there. You were
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  Speaker 4: the first. You were the first one to see me
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  Speaker 4: with this stroke. And I remember telling you that I
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  Speaker 4: just the whole situation that just happened, and we were
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  Speaker 4: all like, you know, puzzled.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was wild.
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  Speaker 3: So we we went to I think the Knicks were playing,
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  Speaker 3: and we were like watching the We were on your
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  Speaker 3: sofa watching the next game, and you were like really
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  Speaker 3: out of it, like you were. We were like maybe
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  Speaker 3: he did some acid or something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what.
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  Speaker 4: I wish.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen it, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, standing I remember you telling you thought like you
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  Speaker 3: were seeing portals.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, yep, So.
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  Speaker 4: It was like I was in the movie Inception, Like
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  Speaker 4: my world kept like switching view on me. Uh So
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  Speaker 4: how it started, you know, right before you were coming
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  Speaker 4: to pick me up, I was in the bathroom and
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  Speaker 4: I kept reaching for the handle to get out, and
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  Speaker 4: I kept hitting a wall. It was like I had
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  Speaker 4: no proper field of views. Everything kept on changing, uh,
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  Speaker 4: and it was just wild. And I mean it got
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  Speaker 4: to the point where, you know, I kept seeing people
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  Speaker 4: on my left hand side. There was kind of like
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  Speaker 4: a ceiling fan always going on over me. And I
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  Speaker 4: mean I was just straight up hallucinating, just like right
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  Speaker 4: in front of my face. And I had to tell
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  Speaker 4: myself this isn't real because I like, for example, I
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  Speaker 4: looked in the mirror and looked like the left side
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  Speaker 4: of my face was blown off with the shotgun because
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  Speaker 4: I had a massive stroke in my baridal lobe, which
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  Speaker 4: was right where the vision sensors are as.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that.
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  Speaker 3: We were like wow, I mean, I know he's got
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  Speaker 3: the brain cancer, but I mean this is like, really,
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  Speaker 3: this is like we didn't know what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you didn't know, and then you.
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  Speaker 3: And that actually turned out if I have the story right,
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  Speaker 3: and it's your story, but I think Danny, that actually
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  Speaker 3: turned out that stroke turned out in the long run
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  Speaker 3: to be a great a great mits Was that correct?
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  Speaker 3: Am I right on that or did I get that wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Ah, the stroke not well, I mean because it didn't
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  Speaker 4: really yeah, I mean, I guess in regards to my fight,
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  Speaker 4: in my resilience, and yes, that became a bits fun
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  Speaker 4: and it added to my story, but uh it was,
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  Speaker 4: yeah it was because.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't it tied kind of like to your to
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  Speaker 3: your brain cancer. Right, that's what I Maybe I heard wrong, but.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I forgot there was something that uh it
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  Speaker 4: kind of Oh, that's right, that's right. I'm sorry, I
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  Speaker 4: know exactly what you're talking about. The stroke where it exploded.
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  Speaker 4: They said, could it be viewed as a positive sign
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  Speaker 4: because any remaining cancer it would have killed?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I had heard. See, that's what
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  Speaker 3: I that's where I was going for because that is correct.
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  Speaker 4: And I apologized, Yes, that that is correct.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you had brain cancer and the story was
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  Speaker 3: the doctors I heard this a while back, but you
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  Speaker 3: would because of the stroke, like it was like a
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  Speaker 3: bullseye for the cancer in your brain.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly exactly. Yet that's essentially because with the stroke exploded
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  Speaker 4: right where the surgery was. And uh and this was
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  Speaker 4: like two weeks after surgery, you know, I was on
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  Speaker 4: radiation and radiation had nothing to do with the stroke.
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  Speaker 4: I just think, you know, I'm a busy body. I
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  Speaker 4: always like to move. I think I might have been
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  Speaker 4: a little too active, you know. But but yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: said like you said, it was a blessing in disguise
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  Speaker 4: because right where it exploded was where the cancer was.
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  Speaker 4: So ultimately, you know, all my scans since then have
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  Speaker 4: shown no cancer. So really, yeah, the blessing in this
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  Speaker 4: sky is absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: And so that is See when you hear the willis
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  Speaker 3: Reid game or something like that, that's bull crap.
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  Speaker 1: See this is big kohone is here. This is big balls.
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  Speaker 3: Well you've been true here, not those guys and all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff. So so you've survived all that and you've
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  Speaker 3: changed your life a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I know your diet and all that.
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  Speaker 3: If you talked about this, you've been living really clean
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  Speaker 3: for what ten years at least?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for a long time. Yeah. I do a ketogenic diet.
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  Speaker 4: So like cancer sells feet off of sugar by eighteen percent,
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  Speaker 4: they increase cancer. So I have no sugar in my diet.
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  Speaker 4: I keep a ketogenic diet. I will do like windows
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  Speaker 4: of fasting as well, because fasting will fill your body
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  Speaker 4: into a stage called atophagy will be like cellulttle repair.
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  Speaker 4: So if you have like cancer cells, you'll kind of
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  Speaker 4: starve them because the thing about cancer cells is they
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  Speaker 4: can't repair themselves, and they try to so they try
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  Speaker 4: to feed off as much sugar. But if you starve
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  Speaker 4: them with your metabolism, you can actually, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: ultimately have those cancer cells seek their own death. So really,
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  Speaker 4: I dove into it, really explored every different option I could.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I even pivoted my career into the cancer space,
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  Speaker 4: which is where I work now. So yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 4: it was a defining moment for me. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm here. I'm telling my story, you know, and I'll
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  Speaker 4: always keep fighting no matter what comes in my way.
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  Speaker 4: I'll get through. And I always tell people that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, don't let things take you down. With cancer,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times you'll have the old woes me
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  Speaker 4: moment and you'll go these support groups and it's very sad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you can have a Woe's me moment, but that's not me.
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  Speaker 4: Like me, I'm a fighter. I go through it. And
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  Speaker 4: that's why I'm here today telling my story. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: I've had the worst of it, and I'm still here smiling,
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  Speaker 4: and God forbid anything comes up again. I will get
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  Speaker 4: through it because that's who I am.
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  Speaker 1: I hear you, man, I hear you, and the great
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  Speaker 1: Danny Efron.
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  Speaker 3: How about this now? You you mentioned you've been to Congress.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's crazy to me. You've spoken, right, you addressed.
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  Speaker 4: Members have I have as a Congress members. So I
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  Speaker 4: was actually on Capitol Hill twice and I have spoken
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  Speaker 4: four times before Congress members, but twice was during COVID.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I was on Capitol Hill, and I, like
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: I said during my four times that I've helped pass
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: over ten billion in cancer fighting legislation for research prevention methods,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: and I've also worked on some bills for uh you know,
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: access to cancer care, access to clinical trials. So you know,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: I was given such a grim uh, such a basically
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: a grim reality, and I've done everything I can to
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: make the best out of it and promote change on
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: a real tangible level. Uh. You know, thankfully, I'm I'm
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: a national speaker. I'm a relationship builder. So I knew
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: that if I use my skills and go into this
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: space with my story, I could be successful. And it
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: was really me just trying to help people like you
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: Ben and me and myself who were going through and
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: like losing our parents and of course I had to
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: deal with it, you know firsthand, but uh, you know,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: doing everything I could can to make change and to
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: you know, promote hopefully get that cancer sure, which I
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: think we're closer to now than ever with quantum computers
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: and AI so I think, uh, I think we'll get
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: there soonerretta later. So I'm going to keep the fight,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: keep the work up.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, man, I mean, our our blood lines,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: your mom my, my mom.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, uh, I mean it's uh.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: You know, it's not not the greatest, but there's ways,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: you know, try to try to do better.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: But they we did. We didn't win the genetic lottery day,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: not at all.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: We got the intelligence though, which is good.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: We got some of that. We've got some.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Of that, yeah, right, But the genetic yeah, the genes company,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: we came up short a little.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Bit, a little bit, a little bit.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: So you're tell me about the Capitol Hill thing, because
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: that's wild to me. So you've been there a couple
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: of times, Like how how were you nervous?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Like how nuts?
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: So is that you're well, you're in front of all
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: these political people.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: WI.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: What's crazy about me is this is since I was little, uh,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: whenever like the lights, camera actions, whenever somebody kicks into gear,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: like something just happens in me and I just I'll
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: be nervous before, but boom, I just kick into gear
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, everything else fades away and
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: I just you know, can just really roll with it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: And I was able to you know, meet with all
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: these congress members talk to them. Really. Uh, it was
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: really fun kind of tailoring my pitch to work certain
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: sizes of the aisle. Of course, cancer is nonpartisan. I
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: don't get into politics at all, but you know, it
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: was really just me trying to figure out the best
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: messaging to get this these fund this funding and this
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: legislation passed, uh, to really you know, make a change
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: in the cancer community. And uh, of course yeah, there
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: was nerves involved, but once I was actually on the
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: floor and talking to these congress members, I really all
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: that kind of fade away and it was the mission
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: at hand.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: So outstanding, outstanding, and and you've done something. I've done
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of cool things and I've been lucky to
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: do a lot of cool stuff, but I've one thing
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I have not been able to get done is to
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: write a book. And you have a book, and it's like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: it's awesome, and I'm I'm very jealous that you were
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: able to get this done because it is outstanding and
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: it's a dedication to your your son, your your amazing
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: kid Eddie who we love and what a kid Eddie
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: is and you how did this process work? I mean,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: how long does it take to get a book that
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I walked me.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: To the thing here?
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Absolutely So. How it started was so like, you know,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I'm a storyteller, I'm a daydreamer. So every night before
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I go to bed, before Eddie goes to bed, I
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: tell him a story just off the top of that
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: in my head. And I remember I told this one story.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: It was when he was like four, I believe three
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: or four. He's seven now, and I remember he got
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: up from his bed and he was like, wow, Daddy,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I want to want to watch that. I want to
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: read that. And I was like, hey, that was actually
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: a really good story. So I went and I, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I put it down on paper, how Eddie put a
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: smile on the moon, and I, you know, I just
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: did my due diligence, and like one of the things.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Dale Carnegie, your aunt my
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: mom gave me his book in fifth grade. I had
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: to win friends, influence people, and I kind of changed
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: how I looked at things. So I would always read
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Eddie these books before bed, called, like how to Catch
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: a Leprechawn, how to Catch a Unicorn, And I love
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: the illustration style of it. So what I did was
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I took a page out of Dale Carnegie when he
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: would write sincere letters to these individuals, you know, not
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: cheap flattery. So I wrote Andy Elkerton, multiple number one
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: New York Times best selling illustrator, just a sincere email
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: saying that I love his work. I wrote this story.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I love to see what he thinks of it. He
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: replied to my email, said, I love the story. I'd
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: be happy to illustrate it for you. And you know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: three years later we formed a great partnership. We're actually
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: working on a second book now called How still a
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: working title, but how Eddie Help Daddy fight cancer? I
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: want to, you know, take that which is really a
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: challenging topic for a lot of families and making in
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: a way that's more comfortable and manageable, and you know
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: it has a little maybe even though it's not much fun,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: but has a little fun to it to really explain
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: the process and you know, give families that resource to
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: you know, talk about such a complicated issue such as
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: cancer in a way that is you know, child friendly.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: So that's our next project we're kind of looking for.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: But that's kind of how the whole process went. Of course,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: the book was h This was like three years ago
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and it did you know, I had to reach out
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: to like the publishing industry. Of course, it takes a
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: long time to get out and so I wrote this
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: story you know, when he was like three or four
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: and now he's seven, so you know, it was it
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: was an arduous process, but uh, you know I was
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: able to finally get something, and you know I use
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Barnes and Nobles as my distributor, and so the book
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: is finally out now, which I love. You know, you
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: can get the hard tub cover at Barns Nobles or
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: the paperback on Amazon. So yeah, it's just you know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: it's a dream come true. And to do it in
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: such a special way about my son, you know, the
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: story leading up to it. Uh, it's just you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: it's it's really it's really really fulfilling to me, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be speaking about it, and I'm
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: grateful for you to have me on to talk about it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's it's awesome. It's a I actually am
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: holding a copy in my hands here of the book.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I have it here, I should have. Well, we're going
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: to have you sign it. I think, well, I'll probably
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: see you soon, so we'll have you that's right. Yeah,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: but at some point here in an absence. But you
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: do work in the cancer world, right, You're you're you're
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: in that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: World, do Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: So I I work for a company, Veritas Medical Solutions.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I do radiation shielding for some of the largest medical
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: oncology centers. Basically, we're like a more advanced form of shielding.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: We take up half the space of traditional concret We
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: provide one hundred percent radiation shielding guarantee because we use
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: a sin wave technology that attenuates or cancels out all radiation.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: So we work with some of the largest cancer centers worldwide.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: And I also work in the industrial solutions too, so
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I work with like Blue Origin, uh SpaceX to provide
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: radiation shielding for their non destructive testing of their rocket parts.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: So it's very exciting. Yes, So I get to not
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: only work on the cancer space and help kind of
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: reimagine facilities to make them more patient friendly, make them safer,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: but also I get to you know, kind of whet
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: my appetite in the world of like space travel and
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: fusion energy is very cool.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: That's right, because you know, eventually, if you know, who
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: knows if we'll be around, but they go to Mars
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: and other places, like, the radiation is like a big problem,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: right you.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Get out and traveling around. I mean, you're you.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Got if you send a bunch of astronauts out to
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: you know, god knows where and they get cancer, what
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: do you know, what are you gonna do?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Exactly? It's actually need proper shielding, especially while they're in
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: their ship and then of course when they're like with
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: this fusion right now. Uh, And so the fusion doesn't
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: really need to be shielded against because there's not much radiation.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: It's more contained. But the lasers that they use to
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: create the fusion sends out so much radiation that that's
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: what we have to provide shielding for so when it
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: comes to fusion applications, which will ultimately you know, lead
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: to rockets and space travel that extended you know, distance
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: of traveling and have that energy though output. Uh you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: right now we just have to prevent provide shielding on
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: these lasers that are shooting beams at each other and
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: really fusion though fusing those atoms together.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: My head's about to explode here, Danny.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I know, I talk this all day long.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I talk about I talk about balls, Danny's when I
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: talk about the ball, that's what I talk about on
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I talk about Lebron James Kendall in balls is what
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I That's it.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Should be known that everyone. I like to tell you.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: So when I was in eighth grade, I want to
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: be a sportscaster, to follow in my cousin's foot test.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I was looked up to you and I remember you
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: wrote me a killer on presentation for that.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I remember that.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: And one time wait, this was before nine to eleven.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Remember I was in with the doing stuff with the
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Dodgers and they were playing the Mets at Jay's Stadium
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: and we were able to in those days before you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: security was ridiculous.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: We we got you and your your brother Lou louis
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in there, and so we d a great time. Was fun.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I still remember your opening line, welcome to the sun.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: That it is.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: It was oppressively hot. I mean, I was like August
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: was ridiculous. I can't handle humidity, is what does me?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: In Dandy? I don't know.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Well, you live in a place with a dry heat now,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: but that July and August and New York or I've
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: been to the South a few times.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's miserable.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I'll take the dry heat any day. It's like you're
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: always walking around muggy, sweaty.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: It's the oh, it's it's terrible.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: But again, the name of the book is how Eddie
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: put a Smile on the Moon. And this is everywhere, right,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: this thing is everywhere, Danny. People can get it on Amazon,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: but wherever they want it, they can get it. Where
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Where do you get the most bank? Where do you
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: want people to buy it from it?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Where is it?
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I get the most bank from my buck on Amazon? Honestly, okay,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I get the most bank for my buck. So if
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: people feel I mean that's the paperback field free, there's
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: the hardcover at Barnes and Noble. But yeah, pick up
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: a copy. I love if people can review it as well,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: you know, only positive reviews. If you didn't like it,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: review someone else's book.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Mo, man, it's my god, it's my cousin. You got it,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Gret Cutts, my guy Dandy.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Give him a good run, exactly.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, you can get it anywhere, but Amazon dot
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: com would be the preferred place, because of course I
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: do get most bank from my buck. There.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: There you go. All right, Danny, thank you so much,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and we will I'll see you soon. So we'll get
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and the next time.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: You have the book, the next book you'll come back on.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: We'll do it all over the whole thing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Absolutely there.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It is the fifth hour. We got new pods all weekend.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: We'll have a new one on obviously tomorrow Saturday, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: then on Sunday the mailbag.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Have a wonderful rest of your Friday.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: And as uh as Danny g would say, asta pasta
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: stop later, skater or something like that, gotta murder, I
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: gotta go