Latest / Wedding Pros who are ready to grow - with Becca Pountney / How much would you pay to see santa?
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- 0:00Becca: I wanna ask you a question.
- 0:01Would you pay 350 pounds for your family to go and see Santa?
- 0:05To be honest, it doesn't really matter whether you answered yes
- 0:08or no to that question because 60,000 other people said yes.
- 0:13I'm gonna talk more about that and why it matters and why it should impact
- 0:16your money mindset in today's episode.
- 0:20I'm Becca Pountney, wedding business marketing expert, speaker and blogger,
- 0:24and you are listening to The Wedding Pros who are Ready to Grow podcast.
- 0:28I'm here to share with you actionable tips, strategies, and real life
- 0:31examples to help you take your wedding business to the next level.
- 0:35If you are an ambitious wedding business owner that wants to take your passion
- 0:39and use it to build a profitable, sustainable business doing what you
- 0:42love, then you're in the right place.
- 0:44Let's get going with today's episode.
- 0:48Way back in March this year, I made a decision.
- 0:51That decision was that I was gonna invest a crazy amount of money to take my
- 0:55family to go and see Santa at Lapland uk.
- 0:59I'd heard some amazing things about it.
- 1:00I talked to my friends about it, who'd been, and I'm realizing my children are
- 1:04getting older, and if I don't make the memories now, it's never gonna happen.
- 1:07So I did it.
- 1:08I went, I joined the.
- 1:10And I booked.
- 1:11I'm so glad I did.
- 1:12It was the most incredible experience when we visited last week, and I
- 1:16was lucky to get a ticket because those tickets sold out in March.
- 1:20Yes, you heard that right?
- 1:21Tickets to go and see Santa sold out entirely.
- 1:24In March there were 60,000 people in the queue.
- 1:28Now, whether or not you would've paid that amount of money to see Santa
- 1:31is kind of irrelevant because what it has done is it's done wonders
- 1:35for my money mindset, and that's why I wanna talk to you about it.
- 1:39After I booked those tickets, I kind of felt a little bit sick.
- 1:42Was it really worth spending that amount of money, 350 pounds to
- 1:46take my family to go and see Santa?
- 1:48Would it live up to expectations or was it gonna be a massive ripoff?
- 1:52Well, I can tell you that it definitely was worth the money.
- 1:55It was the most incredible day out, and I made memories that I will never forget.
- 1:59I'm glad I saved that money, and I'm glad I was able to.
- 2:03But what amazed me more was being there on the day and looking around
- 2:06and realizing how many other families had been willing to spend that much
- 2:11money to take their children to see Santa that is sold out across the year.
- 2:16There must have been a hundred people in my group, and that was
- 2:18only for a half an hour slot.
- 2:20They were running them every half an hour through the day from November,
- 2:23right through to Christmas Day.
- 2:24So I'm sure they're making a fair amount of money from their.
- 2:28But the point was that if other people were willing to spend that much money
- 2:32to see Santa why wouldn't people be willing to pay me for what I do?
- 2:36And that's the same for you as well.
- 2:38So many of us are held back by our money mindset and our beliefs
- 2:41around money and what we would or wouldn't spend our money on that we
- 2:44lose sight of the bigger picture.
- 2:46And that is not everyone is the.
- 2:49As us.
- 2:50So in today's episode, I wanna talk to you a little bit about money
- 2:53and about pricing your services.
- 2:55I wanna challenge you to think about why you charge, what you charge and whether or
- 2:59not you should be putting your money up.
- 3:01So let's get started.
- 3:04The first thing I wanna ask you is how are you actually going
- 3:07about setting your prices?
- 3:08How did you decide on the prices that you charge in the first place?
- 3:13I'm gonna ask you some quite personal questions.
- 3:15So have a think about the answers to these in your own.
- 3:19So first of all, when you look at your business, are you making a profit?
- 3:23Are you making any money or are you spending all of the money on running
- 3:27your business and the ingredients or the materials that you need to make?
- 3:30Are you basically working for free?
- 3:33If you're not making a profit in your business yet you are working,
- 3:36then there's a problem with your pricing because you're not charging
- 3:39enough to make that money back.
- 3:40We're not in a position where we can run our businesses at a loss.
- 3:43We're not big corporations.
- 3:46Ultimately, if you don't charge, you are not getting paid.
- 3:49I know it's hard looking at your numbers, but numbers are
- 3:52fundamental to running a business.
- 3:54So you need to sit down and look at the figures on paper.
- 3:57What are you charging?
- 3:59Are you making enough money?
- 4:00How much money do you want to be making in your business?
- 4:02And is it possible to get there with the price that you're charging right now?
- 4:06Or are you basically working for free?
- 4:08If the numbers don't add up, then that's probably a good sign that you
- 4:11need to put the price of your services.
- 4:14Up.
- 4:14Don't be afraid to do it.
- 4:16The next question I wanna ask you is, are you valuing your
- 4:19time in your calculations, or are you basically working for free?
- 4:24I've met so many wedding business owners who feel like they're turning a profit,
- 4:28which is great in their business.
- 4:29But then when I ask them about the amount of.
- 4:31Hours they're spending and we work out how much money they're making per hour.
- 4:36Sometimes when we have those conversations, we've realized they're not
- 4:39actually making hardly any money at all, and they'd actually be better off going,
- 4:42getting a job and being paid minimum wage, which isn't what any of us want.
- 4:46So if you're not accounting for your time and you're not valuing your
- 4:49time, when you work out your pricing, then again something needs to shift.
- 4:53You only have so many hours in the week.
- 4:55Your time and your creativity are valuable, and that's
- 4:58what people are paying for.
- 5:00So make sure you're valuing.
- 5:01Time and not giving yourself away for free and basically working for nothing.
- 5:07The third thing to consider is whether you are just pricing yourself based
- 5:11off of what other people are charging.
- 5:13Now, quite often this is what we do.
- 5:14We start our business and we go and look at what our competitors are charging, and
- 5:18then we just charge in the same region.
- 5:21Now, I think this is quite funny because actually.
- 5:23Why are we doing that?
- 5:24Why do they know what to charge and we don't.
- 5:26So we are looking at what they do and basing on what they charge, but
- 5:29they might have just been looking at what someone else was doing it
- 5:31and basing on what they charge.
- 5:33So we're putting all of our trust in whoever came up with that original number
- 5:37whenever it was, and whatever they did.
- 5:39So we're actually just basing it on nothing.
- 5:41You're much better to ignore in part what's going on around you and just
- 5:46work out the value that you can bring to the table, the cost of the materials,
- 5:50and work out whether or not your.
- 5:53Is right.
- 5:55If you're just trying to compare yourself to everyone else or trying
- 5:58to do the worst thing you can do, which is undercut everyone else, then
- 6:01that's not really a great strategy.
- 6:03If you always just try and be the cheapest and come in lower than
- 6:06everyone else, some reason we think that that's gonna give us more business,
- 6:10but actually it can be detrimental.
- 6:12Ultimately, you're never gonna be able to be the cheapest, and if you are always
- 6:16the cheapest, you're gonna run yourself ragged and you're not gonna make a profit.
- 6:19So that is not a good pricing strategy to come in lower.
- 6:22Also, people are savvy and they know that paying the cheapest price doesn't mean
- 6:26that they're gonna get the best quality.
- 6:28Sometimes they'll discount you because they think that you're too cheap.
- 6:31Now, why won't we ever be the cheapest?
- 6:33I'm gonna tell you a story about something I did a couple of years ago.
- 6:36So a couple of years ago I went undercover, although my cover got blown
- 6:40fairly quickly, so it didn't work as well as I wanted it to in a Facebook
- 6:43group, uh, quite a long way away from where I live, where bride and grooms
- 6:47are, and where wedding supplies are.
- 6:49And I posted in there to ask if anyone would be willing to take
- 6:52photos for me for 500 pounds.
- 6:54And then in the chat I was trying to go lower and lower and lower
- 6:56to find out how low someone would be willing to do my photographs.
- 7:01Turned out someone else would've agreed to do them for free for experience.
- 7:05So if you are trying to be cheapest, that's a ridiculous way to be because
- 7:08someone will always be cheaper than you, and unless you wanna give
- 7:11your services away for free, then being the cheapest isn't an option.
- 7:15So instead, why don't you put your prices up and become more exclusive rather than
- 7:20trying to be the cheapest in your area?
- 7:22People will pay for quality, just like I paid to go to Lapland.
- 7:27The next question I wanna ask you is, are you basing your prices based
- 7:31on what you would personally pay and on your own economic circumstances?
- 7:35Now, it's really hard for us to break out of this habit because, well, we are
- 7:39living in our own heads every day, and we think, well, we wouldn't pay that much.
- 7:43So why would anyone else, well, I want you to break away from that thought, right?
- 7:48Because it may be that you wouldn't pay 350 pounds, just
- 7:51take your family to see Santa.
- 7:53That doesn't mean no one would pay that.
- 7:55I mean, if I decided to set up my own Santa's grotto today and start thinking
- 7:58about pricing, my head probably would think, no one's gonna pay 350 pounds.
- 8:02I'll price it at a fiver.
- 8:04But ultimately some people won't even pay a fiver.
- 8:07And actually I'm missing out on the other 345 pounds if I'd have
- 8:11done it as well as they did.
- 8:12So if we are just pricing based on what we think we would
- 8:15pay, then we're missing out.
- 8:17It's like when it comes to fashion or handbags, some people will pay
- 8:20800 pounds, a thousand pounds, 10,000 pounds for a handbag, whereas it might
- 8:25be that you just prefer to buy your handbag from new look for a tenor, and
- 8:28that's as much as you're willing to.
- 8:30The same goes for holidays.
- 8:32Think about the last holiday you went on and how much that cost you as a family.
- 8:35Now some families will have a holiday budget of a couple of hundred
- 8:38pounds each year and go camping.
- 8:40Other families will go to Disney World every year and spend 10,000 pounds,
- 8:44and other families will do even more and spend 20,000, 30,000, 50,000.
- 8:49The sky's the limit if they get a private jet.
- 8:52So you see, you can't just base your pricing based on what you would do because
- 8:56there will be people out there who have more money and are willing to spend
- 8:59more on your product and your service.
- 9:02Now I've asked you some difficult questions.
- 9:04I want to challenge you to change your thinking around this subject.
- 9:08If you charge more, you can provide a better service.
- 9:13I'm gonna say that again.
- 9:14If you charge more, you can provide a better service.
- 9:18Why was Lapland UK so good and so worth the money?
- 9:22It's because they charged so much.
- 9:24They had enough money to make it incredible.
- 9:27They must have spent a huge amount of money on the set, on making snow on
- 9:30the trees, on the ice rink, on the 400 amazing staff that they had running it.
- 9:35And they wouldn't have been able to give such a great experience if they'd
- 9:38have only charged five pound a ticket.
- 9:40It's a limited market.
- 9:41They can only get so many people in.
- 9:43No one wants to go and see Santa in July, so they have to make it work for them.
- 9:47And if they wanna give that incredible experience, then they have to
- 9:51charge in a way that means they can provide that incredible experience.
- 9:54And they absolutely did.
- 9:56It's the same for you.
- 9:57If you keep working for cheap, you're gonna have to do way more
- 10:00work and lots more jobs in order to bring in the same amount of money.
- 10:04Whereas if you put your prices up, you can spend more time and
- 10:07attention on the customers you have because you have less of them.
- 10:11You can give them an incredible customer experience.
- 10:13You can be there for them.
- 10:14Each step of the way.
- 10:15You can give more of your time, and you are less stressed.
- 10:19If you can charge more, you are able to give a much better customer experience.
- 10:25If you're sat there thinking, I can't raise my prices, I'm worried about
- 10:28charging higher, I don't think I'm worth it, then I wanna say to you,
- 10:31that's imposter syndrome talking.
- 10:33It's that voice in your head telling you you're not worth
- 10:35it, or you absolutely are.
- 10:37You're great at what you do, and you should be charging for it.
- 10:40So if you are worrying about that, then the way to counteract it is
- 10:44to go above and beyond for your clients if you're charging a premium.
- 10:48Then just give them a premium service.
- 10:49Go above and beyond for your clients, which you probably do anyway, but if you
- 10:53go above and beyond for them, they won't even worry about how much they're paying.
- 10:57Now imagine when I went to Lapland UK that I got there and it was naff.
- 11:01Do you think I'd be shouting about how great it was or how much value I saw
- 11:05even though I spent all that money?
- 11:07No, I probably wouldn't.
- 11:08But they blew me away so much that I could see where my money had gone.
- 11:12The customer experience was next level, and I will never experience anything
- 11:16else like that with my children.
- 11:18It was so, so good.
- 11:21So I didn't worry about the amount of money I'd spent because
- 11:23they gave me a premium service.
- 11:25And you can do the same for your clients too.
- 11:27Go above and beyond for them.
- 11:29Give them incredible customer service and make sure everything
- 11:32they do is at a premium.
- 11:34So much of what we charge comes down to confidence.
- 11:37So there's one final exercise I want you to do.
- 11:39I want you to have a look around in your industry, in whatever it is
- 11:42that you do, and find people who are charging infinitely more than you are.
- 11:48Take a look at what they're doing and ask yourself, what is it about
- 11:51them that makes them better than me?
- 11:53That makes them be able to charge that amount of.
- 11:56Because I guarantee in a lot of instances, they probably are no better than you.
- 12:00They've just got the confidence to charge that worth.
- 12:03Perhaps they've started building a network.
- 12:05Well, you absolutely can do that too.
- 12:07Perhaps their imagery is next level.
- 12:09Well, guess what?
- 12:09You could also do that too.
- 12:11If you look around and look at what the people who are charging a premium are
- 12:14doing and then compare yourself to them, you'll realize that so much of it is
- 12:19about confidence rather than ability.
- 12:23So as we enter today's episode, I wanna challenge you to think about this.
- 12:27What is it that's stopping you raising your prices?
- 12:30Why aren't you charging what you're worth?
- 12:32And is there something you could do about it today to make that happen?
- 12:36You could do it incrementally.
- 12:37You don't have to whack up your prices overnight, and you can give
- 12:41customers warning that it's coming.
- 12:42Tell them, I'm gonna be upping my prices in the new year.
- 12:45If you book me before then, then I'm gonna honor your rates.
- 12:48But as of the 1st of January, my price is going to.
- 12:51This, be bold, be confident, and remember you are worth it.
- 12:56I'll see you next week.