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- 0:05All right, we're in the Kosimo olive middle of Sis Dalid just
- 0:11started beginning very quickly. It's an ulcer Lattayer tsurushi
- 0:16from mother Shrina. It's also to make images of the
- 0:20that which is the mother of Shrina to going Dalapani Mahadi
- 0:25Adodi, like you know, the Haisakaydesh in Suras Rafi
- 0:29Malaki al shares in Suras Aldo Nevada, because also it says the
- 0:35weather Mason Merkova, it says suras Aldo whatever.
- 0:38So it's also next show mother Shrina just the Agra.
- 0:43But I mentioned yesterday about Suras Aldo.
- 0:47There's a question about if you do have it.
- 0:49So there is, you know, the place can say that you you know, if
- 0:53you do get something, you can, you know, you know, poke an eye
- 0:56out or you know, mar it in a way which we mvaz it because if the
- 1:03if the you know, if the shad is Bitham, Avoca, Zara.
- 1:06So then if you you know, mar it, you know, whatever the question
- 1:10was about dolls. What's you know, it's a big, you
- 1:14know, if anyone's read the you know, all for the boss the first
- 1:18day, you know, few chapters, the famous thing you have, he takes
- 1:22his daughter's doll and and knocks a hole in there or
- 1:25something. Whatever do you have to do that?
- 1:28It's different. It's different.
- 1:29You know, it's definitely, you know, a good thing.
- 1:31But I mean that's just that's surus Surusa Adam.
- 1:37There's a show of Salman. I know said it's also brought
- 1:42down Herbie Schmo that he said that there's a difference
- 1:45between a tourist aldam and suras of a of a doll.
- 1:49A doll's not Surah of an autumn, you know, although if you have a
- 1:52mannequin or something like that or you have where nowadays stuff
- 1:56or and things like that, so that that would be tourist aldam.
- 1:59But but a doll is, is, it's not exact.
- 2:04It could be say it's a child. It's not exactly a doll is a
- 2:06certain sewer that looks like a doll now #1 if it's a, you know,
- 2:09even if it's a, you know, baby doll, you know, So then like
- 2:13that's, you know, kids, it's stubborn because anyway, it gets
- 2:16thrown around and I don't know, and different things.
- 2:18And it's not, you know, it's not even, it's not already
- 2:23something. It's also, it looks like a doll,
- 2:24doesn't you know, you say it's Mama Shreel.
- 2:26It's like a baby maybe. I don't know.
- 2:31Yeah, she wasn't bizarre. So so yeah, but the but the bar
- 2:38though, but the bar is a real Barbie doll and a human would be
- 2:43some people, right, But Uncle Punny.
- 2:45But but The thing is that that's difference the doll he's talking
- 2:47or talking about. Like if you have unless you have
- 2:49a fancy like, you know, porcelain doll, right.
- 2:53So it looks like a doll. There's a certain it's not
- 2:55exactly a human thing, but you're right, a Barbie doll or
- 2:59you know, you know, you know, when I was a kid, I had
- 3:04different action figures and all these types of things and
- 3:06whatever those might be more problematic because Taca those
- 3:10are meant to be human. You know, they're they're meant
- 3:14to be. Or at least there's no human
- 3:16that side. That doesn't make it.
- 3:19I don't think any. It's only.
- 3:22Yeah, it's it's sure. It's not the it's not the you
- 3:24don't need to get the proportion.
- 3:28So, so each of them that could be just more of a Shiloh belt.
- 3:33That could be just more to like black an eye out and that could
- 3:35be what well, what you have to say here, the fingers have to be
- 3:38separated. The toes have to be said.
- 3:40We'll get to that. We'll get to that stuff.
- 3:41We'll get to that stuff in a second.
- 3:42It's not the but the bigger though, I'll just talk about
- 3:45Suras or Adam Savage is what is what to rely on.
- 3:49I guess you know, sort of depends on what how you know,
- 3:53you know, it's a discussion, but if you find these things in
- 4:00motors and give them to you that they made them to to worship.
- 4:10She also called slamming because she's very interesting.
- 4:15That's where it's 3 dimensional. I love the Shokas.
- 4:19Kalisan should orgy, the beggin should siren because so this
- 4:23time. But something which is Shokas,
- 4:26which is indented like those which are woven into baguette or
- 4:35or they're painted on a wall. We're going to get to discussion
- 4:39about there's three, there's 3 levels embedded.
- 4:43So there's there's there's three different levels of say there's
- 4:51three, there's three, there's out dented 33 dimensional, 3
- 4:56dimensional figure that's bullets.
- 4:58There is a there's indented and then there's drawn or printed.
- 5:06So the the TAD says that drawn or printed is we'll see that is
- 5:11even less. The shark says that there's only
- 5:15two things there's Biletus and everything else meaning even 2
- 5:19dimensional is also considered is also considered Shor khans.
- 5:25We'll get into the NAF convenience in a minute.
- 5:28Notre la Saisa, but Sir Ham of a levana, but Sir Ham and Levana
- 5:32of the sun and stars also Bain Biletus being shor khas, because
- 5:37when you see them in the sky, they look like and you know they
- 5:42appear to you as two-dimensional.
- 5:44They don't appear. They person makes it sort of a
- 5:47sun. There's no reason to start
- 5:48making a ball of gas and fire or whatever.
- 5:51Or you don't make a ball, you make a circle.
- 5:55So therefore they are also ulcer Bishop Cos if it looks like they
- 5:59are, you know they're not. They don't have to be 3
- 6:02dimensional. Like I said, the task says that
- 6:04if it's drawn on, he says that it's that's more Mako, the
- 6:09sharkless holic. The shop was colic.
- 6:14And he says that they're all, they're all the same.
- 6:17Yeah, they're all the same din. And therefore a drawn picture of
- 6:21karma Levana would be a problem though in Hamlin Islami, the
- 6:26lahavi and laharas. The case in the Gemaras of
- 6:28Gumleo had suros made for him of the different depicting the
- 6:33different phases of the moon and how they look.
- 6:36And you know what? They suffer.
- 6:37They ate him. So one of the Kumar, one of the
- 6:40two roots with the Kumar is I was allowed.
- 6:43It was a lot because of the Islamic Lahovia and Lahoy race
- 6:46that's used to learn and it's obviously not used.
- 6:48It's not used for that. This is to have not to not to
- 6:54make. They're the case.
- 6:56There's going to be those other people made it for him to make
- 6:58is still a problem, but to have it, you're out to have it.
- 7:01The Islam made the Hovie Lahoy Royce to, you know, to to learn
- 7:06and things. So if you buy a book that has
- 7:09pictures of the, you know, kid kid book with pictures of drawn
- 7:12pictures of the sun in it and things, it's it's so The thing
- 7:19is. So OK, we'll get to that in a
- 7:21second. Oh, so so one minute.
- 7:27So let's we'll get to all that in a second.
- 7:29Cool. On mutaros.
- 7:30A few of bolotos though, that those are mutter.
- 7:33If it's Lee Slami, the hobby lawyers, those are mutaros.
- 7:36Even if they're bolting the H material Mishal rabbi like a
- 7:39hashta. If it's something of the rabbi,
- 7:42then we don't have to get rid of it because there's no shad.
- 7:45Now just to go through a few different, a few other lacudas
- 7:48here #1 going, staying with Surista Amo Levana.
- 7:53So again, we're talking about, you know, first of all the Shah
- 7:56says we'll see in this. And then really for the a little
- 7:59bit later about although that Rehana Levana, if it's not a
- 8:02full Surah, it's fine. All right.
- 8:05So so therefore teaching your kids, you know, the kids want to
- 8:09draw sun, you know, whatever it it it's better to teach them to
- 8:15just maybe just do the you know, you have to make them crazy
- 8:18better to teach to do the sun in the corner.
- 8:21That's a normal thing. You do the sun in the corner,
- 8:23you do a you know, you do a whatever.
- 8:25Don't do a fold server because that's it.
- 8:27It is a shash of something which is there is there isa those also
- 8:31Niti is is an it's a Theresa. It's a love Theresa.
- 8:35So you know, and it's good. You know, the the does it look
- 8:39like a son? So the The thing is also
- 8:41Lahashi. It's the son in the movie.
- 8:42It looks like, you know, like Melek or whatever, But just to
- 8:46to draw a son is a is an issue. I I do, you know, have what I
- 8:52remember. I remember asking Shyla once
- 8:54about telescopic images and things and all these things.
- 8:56And of course, that's not again, that's not how we see the sun
- 9:00and the words of how we you know, it's not how we see, you
- 9:03know, So therefore it could be, you know, that, you know, it's
- 9:06not such a not it's not as big of a deal because they you know,
- 9:10you know, you look at the, you know, the moon is how you see
- 9:12the moon. I know if it's a, you know, a
- 9:15moon's out too, that you see the crater.
- 9:16So I don't know, you know, if it's if it's a map of the moon
- 9:19and you want to have like, you know, put a map of the moon, you
- 9:22put a yes for astronomy stuff. The horror, that's the Hove.
- 9:25You know, the horror is that's low.
- 9:27You know, that's so you can figure, you know that's that's
- 9:29low. Gara, the sun is not perfect
- 9:32circle. Is that no, I don't know.
- 9:35I don't know if that I I don't think that makes sense.
- 9:38I don't No one says here Dina compass.
- 9:43Yeah, so the crested moon is is a discussion that I think is
- 9:46Archie trooper bit talks about some say that's that is the
- 9:49color that would be considered. That's how you see it.
- 9:51So Pasha says that would be a problem.
- 9:52Also. That's not hustler if you try,
- 9:55if you didn't do the whole Crescent, that could be there's
- 9:58you know, it's it's it's it's you know, it's better.
- 10:01It's better. It's better not to do that.
- 10:03The this that you were talked about in the shul that they they
- 10:07had a window. They they they made a shul had a
- 10:09window, a glass round glass window with like sun rays around
- 10:13a kilo and there's a puslik underneath or whatever he said
- 10:16that's not appropriate. That's not the yeah, it's not
- 10:20Mama, is it Mama also is it drawing?
- 10:22Is it see or it's not That's it. It created see or it's not.
- 10:26That's not something which you know, it's show rabbi that has
- 10:32like a little nose on them. So that that that that's not the
- 10:34hover. That could be would be fine.
- 10:36I don't know. The other thing which is which
- 10:41is brought out about show cast and about whatever is discussion
- 10:45about. So we'll just talk what about
- 10:51photography, right. Once I was taking a picture of
- 10:54the moon and things or whatever. So so it used to be the film
- 11:02pictures. The horror is definitely a
- 11:04question. Printing pictures, let's say
- 11:07someone took, you know, photos of the moon, the sun.
- 11:09You can't even take photos of I guess you can it depends.
- 11:12But by sunset you can take photos.
- 11:14I don't know, to print those pictures is a real Shiloh.
- 11:17It's talked a real Shiloh because that's you're creating
- 11:22in Suarez Khan and Levana. You're you're you're printing
- 11:24them out. I don't know, digitally,
- 11:27digitally. That's the thing.
- 11:28You have to look into it. There's a whole discussion about
- 11:30digital pictures and you have the Chavez and stuff.
- 11:33I don't any the digital pictures or anything.
- 11:35It's just some light. It's not an actual drawing.
- 11:38You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not.
- 11:41I mean, some people will say that it's, it's, it's, it's a
- 11:43alright, it isn't sewer because it's there.
- 11:45Other people say that like this is a Shabbos is Siva cholmoy.
- 11:49You know, digital is that is that really, you know, is that
- 11:54making it? It's probably more making, we'll
- 11:57put it that way. It's probably about more lahaca
- 11:59when it comes to that, because it's not really it's it's it's
- 12:02just drawing it on the screen. It's not really drawing.
- 12:04And I'm not sure. I'm not I'm not really I'm not
- 12:07really I'm not really certain. The other thing is, is, is, is
- 12:11the camera of the the Talisbrings of the Ramban, the
- 12:15ran and passking that even by all the two-dimensional drawings
- 12:21and and and figures are also awesome.
- 12:24So which would cause a little bit big problem for all the
- 12:28Photoshop's and yeah, so, so let me tell you, this is basically
- 12:33Chuva. However, the meaning doesn't
- 12:36seem to be Mac where like it's actually should be Mac, but
- 12:39sometimes it's a good idea. But the very interesting
- 12:41basically Chuva brings the Chuva of of Leakov and then she's the
- 12:46Ivitz. So he he he said some.
- 12:49So it's two points of the truth. Very interesting.
- 12:51But someone brought him a coin said there was a rob in
- 12:53Amsterdam who the Kahila had a coin with his sewer minted on
- 12:58the coin. And so they came.
- 13:00He brought it to the prosper after Hendon.
- 13:02He looked at it and he's like he's like he's like, I can't.
- 13:05This guy is a big Gary Shah. I can't imagine he told them to
- 13:07They must have did it without his knowledge.
- 13:09He said, but it's a problem. He said making a coin, even
- 13:11though it's half 1/2 an image and all these things, it's a
- 13:13problem. But he tells the story of the
- 13:15tells the story of his father, the Hakun Svi.
- 13:18So once in England, they wanted to have the Mahabat him the you
- 13:22know, the ham of the Strideh Kila in the London want to
- 13:26Mahabat him. And so they sent like a fancy, a
- 13:29fancy boat to come over and they were and they were spawning.
- 13:33They, you know, he said, you know, like Amish, you know,
- 13:37whatever. And they, the one that, you
- 13:39know, have an artist draws likeness so they can remember is
- 13:42how to spawn him, you know, and, and he refused that.
- 13:47I don't want whatever. So he said that tequila like
- 13:50sort of tricked him. And they had a artist who was a
- 13:52really quick artist, very good and quick and captured his like
- 13:56this very quickly. And he uses a lesson of the
- 13:59Shila Shivans, he says, and he said that and, and he made a, a
- 14:03painting of him. He said it's, it was so
- 14:04lifelike. It was just caused her Nishma's
- 14:07Haim. And it's just like he was so
- 14:09lifelike. And he was Mr. Behr.
- 14:10He he was father even his father wasn't wasn't didn't want it to
- 14:15be dumb the USA they they want to add the hydras Ponte in the
- 14:18mask here what he looks like so you can have realized on this on
- 14:23this yoga yoga vending that I thought it is OK to go ahead and
- 14:28to have you know pictures of Tariq and this is from the Piska
- 14:31Chuva brings very interesting story it's.
- 14:46Yeah, it's also there's a few of them here.
- 14:49So anyway, so the so that's so that Lahore is what there's
- 14:52Salman Khan. The it's like I said, there is
- 14:58an idea. There is, there is an idea to,
- 15:00you know, it comes to, you know, printing pictures of, of people.
- 15:02Like I said, the island's not marketed on it and there's no
- 15:05reason to me, you know, really you want to have a personal
- 15:07humor allowed to that's you know, that's you know, that's a
- 15:10person that that could you know, that's it.
- 15:12This is what the what the way the haka Sodom says this is the
- 15:15right. So you have a sheet of three
- 15:17shining, but you know, it's not the you know, it's what it's
- 15:20what it's what to think about. Yeah.
- 15:26So so that shade is a shade is a separate issue.
- 15:29That's a plain printing by shade.
- 15:32So then the already the the haka Sodom says to me by shade
- 15:36nowadays to be make because, you know, no one worships much any
- 15:40of these things anyway. So even all them he says the
- 15:43only all them people worship at least in Europe or or any of
- 15:47them. It looks looks very different.
- 15:48It's very machete can whatever yeah, you know, hanging off of I
- 15:52don't know whatever. So anyway, so they you know, so
- 15:54they so he said they're not, you know, he said you don't have to
- 15:57be back with so much and shad for all them.
- 16:02You should be Mac Okay, I don't know.
- 16:04You know, Mac for shot just means you can go ahead and mar
- 16:08it. That's all.
- 16:08That's all you know, that's all it means.
- 16:11Yes, No, those salsa need to know if you do an incomplete
- 16:15picture, but that's but yeah, it could be will work.
- 16:17You know, the point is if you Dafa went ahead and then did a
- 16:19did a picture and left out of the circle of an eye, it could
- 16:23be that would be OK, because that's showing you Badafka made
- 16:26it incomplete. But something which is
- 16:27incomplete just because it's a bust or something and you know,
- 16:30it's just the head and the shoulders.
- 16:32You made a bust of someone, you know, is that that the heart
- 16:37that that the person say doesn't is what's it called?
- 16:40It's still an issue the other. So let's we'll continue a bit
- 16:44here. Hey, a ring that has on it a a
- 16:51seal, a stamp that has, although e-mail is out surable at this if
- 16:57it's sura is sticking out also. So then you can't keep that.
- 17:01Let's say you have a stamp with a with a person's face on it or
- 17:04something, you know, so it's a problem Nanika or motor Latoya,
- 17:08but you can but but you could use it Hapami to go to take a
- 17:12Gois thing and you do A and you do a stamp that would be OK in
- 17:16Haisa into wax. Talk about into wax because it
- 17:19sinks in. Not, you know, the e-mail is out
- 17:23to us, but if it was indented Motorola, you can keep it ulcer
- 17:30lactine Bubba. It's also to go ahead and to and
- 17:33to and to seal with it or stamp with it makes you have the
- 17:36awesome passive of cerable at this because because it's a mold
- 17:40and and even though so it's basically using a mold to make
- 17:43it even you're not creating be a dime.
- 17:45But mate, using a mold to create an image is a problem of Filu
- 17:49Hosam Lohavi Kahavi. Also, I'll show you.
- 17:52So even if I'm going, you know, sealed it or stamped it, it's
- 17:55still going to be ulcer to keep it around.
- 17:58Do it the wax, Yeah, the wax, right, right.
- 18:03The shark, any of these things, if it's if it's done not, but
- 18:09they're if they're, you know, stamping.
- 18:11It's also a problem. Vav Surois have the hay noise
- 18:17highest the dogging source of animals higher you know the
- 18:22highest the dogging. It's a shine motor, right?
- 18:28That's all most to have around. There's no problem.
- 18:32It's a lot to worry some. I feel how you saw sewer.
- 18:34But let us even if you have a 3D, you know, a 3D something you
- 18:38know in the circle you have 3D, you know, like 3D thing of
- 18:42whatever hurts. OK, a three-dimensional like a
- 18:44hologram. I don't know, you know.
- 18:47I mean, I'm talking about say a human.
- 18:48They make a hologram of a human. It's the same type of thing as
- 18:51digital picture. Maybe it's worse.
- 18:53I'm not sure. I mean, I don't know because
- 18:56that I'm not sure. You know, obviously a 3D
- 18:59obviously, you know, you know, you know, it's 3D printing would
- 19:02be a problem, you know, but but hologram I don't know.
- 19:10And and the thing that so they asked for Shiloh says what we
- 19:14said before that Kochavim also. So first of all, the we said
- 19:19before Charles, they're not talking about if you draw a
- 19:21little twinkle, twinkle little star.
- 19:22It's talking about if you do mozallo.
- 19:25So constellations, you do the constellations.
- 19:29So they ask and then that's the case and doing a lion doing
- 19:34whatever any of these things, they're all Mazzolos of the, you
- 19:37know, the constellists scorpion. They should be those should be
- 19:40also here. It says it's mutter the Terrance
- 19:42is is that is that the only answer they say about the is if
- 19:46you do all 12 Mazzolos together, if you do the whole the whole 12
- 19:51Mazzolos, then that's what we're talking about is going to be it
- 19:54will be a problem. But doing the one individual
- 19:57animal individual thing was not is not is not a problem Zion.
- 20:03Also but other but dark on Ella dafka.
- 20:06But sure shlena, it's only if it's a complete Surah the whole
- 20:10this is what you're talking about.
- 20:13There are those who are making if it's if it's if the if the
- 20:16fingers aren't separated, there are kulas, but it's hard to know
- 20:22because like if it's hard to make actual digits and like
- 20:25that, you know, I don't know, I don't know how far you take it,
- 20:29but Pasha says it means behold, Vera.
- 20:30It means it's not like I said, it seems the pricing seems to
- 20:34save him by a coin. If it's that's the that was the
- 20:37kavana of it to make like a bust to make half a half a body.
- 20:41So that's considered sort of Shlena.
- 20:43You know, if if Batafka left an arm off so that that would that
- 20:46would monitor it. But of what of the coins coins
- 20:51is no coins coins. Well, that's The thing is to
- 20:55make the coin could be an issue to keep a coin around is OK
- 21:01about two US Roush no, it's you take it to the bathroom.
- 21:08Take it this it's shot to make it as A to make it with me.
- 21:13It might be a problem to mint a coin like that would be a
- 21:15problem. But you know, to go ahead and
- 21:18you know, whatever. I don't know if you for example,
- 21:20if you go to like in America and they have all these like, you
- 21:22know, if you go to these touristy sites, they have, you
- 21:24know, take a take a penny and make a thing out of it.
- 21:27So if it's a picture of a man, it could be you shouldn't do it.
- 21:29I don't know. I have a tourist Roche a goof
- 21:32below Roche or Aimba shum Issa a little bit more so.
- 21:35But if it's if it's just a head or a body without a head or a
- 21:41head, just it's just that it's not a full tour.
- 21:43Aimba shum, it's a little it's a little right, But no, again, the
- 21:46minute it gets to be Mako, the I'll just mention the I'll just
- 21:52mention the Yaris to that. You could make a bust.
- 21:57The play. The heard him say is was that's
- 21:59what the master of things shows the I've it's and the heard him
- 22:02say at the full bust is a full considered a full figure.
- 22:05It's not an incomplete figure. It's if that was your Provena to
- 22:08make a bust. I know there's a there's yeah,
- 22:14and I have to look, but just to finish off the interesting the
- 22:19Yaris Drash, we'll say the last sentence Sunday.
- 22:22The Yaris Drash says that Brad Pitt Cuba brings them.
- 22:26So I actually says that. He says nowadays, he says you
- 22:29see, there's all these, you know, people have see you, you
- 22:33know, slumming all around their house and things or whatever.
- 22:37He says, he said the problem, one of the problems having them
- 22:40is that whenever he is what he says, he says whenever they
- 22:44people, they make a like a tour of an aldover things or
- 22:47whatever. So he says that there's a rural
- 22:49Hatuma from the which is Shara on the on the Salem on on, on,
- 22:55on the Salem. He said Votozara used to be that
- 22:59the Komram knew how to access that Kochatuma and control it.
- 23:05And that's whatever that's what they had.
- 23:06You know that that power. He said that every single time
- 23:09people they look at you look at some and you look at things or
- 23:12whatever. He said they have the there is a
- 23:14Kochatuma attached to it And and therefore it's Mazi.
- 23:19It's it's Mazi. He said people should be careful
- 23:21with being sure you don't have you know, to have these things
- 23:24around your house is a he says he says it's it's what it's what
- 23:28to you know, think about. You know, I was thinking, you
- 23:30know, listen, you know, but Zara, you know, you know, it's
- 23:33OK, So it's bottle, it's bottle, all these things, But you know,
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- 23:50there's he sue and there's basically true brings us, you
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