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#330: Together (2025) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? Remember when I found North?
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  Yeah. Welcome to It's Your Least
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  Favorite Scary Movie, The podcast where we talk about the
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  good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd, and all of our favorite.
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  Family's favorite scary movies because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jesse. And let's come together
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  everybody, because today we're talking about together.
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  OK. Do you feel good about that?
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  No, I don't, But you know, I wanted to say something.
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  And you said something. I did.
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  I tried. All right, Yeah.
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  So we're talking about 2020 fives together today.
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  Do we have any announcements before we get into all that?
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  To be or not to be this weekend? OK, to be or not to be?
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  Be on the lookout for it. Jesse's pick.
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  That's right. So Together.
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  Premiered January 26th, 2025. Premiered at Sundance Wide
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  release July 30th, 2025. We watched on Hulu and if you
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  would like to watch it, you can watch it also on Hulu or Disney.
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  If you want to rent it, you can rent it on Prime, Apple TV or
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  Fandango at home. Written and directed by Michael
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  Shanks, music by Cornell Wilczyk and special effects make up by
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  Arlo Marconatos. Larry Von Duhoven, who did the
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  prosthetics for the conjoining parts and we had CG done by
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  Frame Store. OK, starring Dave Franco as Tim,
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  Allison Brie as Millie, Damon Harriman as Jamie and Mia
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  Morrissey as Kath. Time for a favorite game on the
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  show. Budget or budget?
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  Who's Kath? Her friend.
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  OK, I, you know, like realistically we could have only
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  done three people here, but I, I figured I'd throw her in because
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  she at least is recurring. Yeah, I don't know if we ever
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  know that that's her name, though.
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  Yeah. I don't know if we do.
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  Like if it's ever said, it's said in like passing or
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  something. Does this movie, does it not
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  pass the Bechtel test? I don't think it passes the
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  Bechtel test. Wow.
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  I don't think it does. I don't think it does.
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  Holy shit. It is a It is a movie about a
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  relationship, to be fair. Yeah, just.
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  It it makes it a little bit more difficult because it's like the
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  whole point of this whole thing. But yeah, you're right, That is
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  beard. I never even thought of that.
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  Weird. OK.
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  Well, OK, no, wait, wait, wait. Carol the teacher has the tea
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  that she brought in. She is names.
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  They talk about tea. No, she's in a relationship with
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  Tea so it doesn't count. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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  She just actually bonked me on the ad with her quit board here.
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  Sorry my death perception wasn't great, I meant for it to be a
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  little tap. It was a bomb love tap.
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  I'm sure that came across on the mics here.
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  All right, well, all right. So what is it?
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  Budget or bug tab? Bug tab.
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  OK, yes it is bug tab. I'm surprised I actually had a
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  number. It is 3 and a half million.
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  You know what? Get on them.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good for them a lot.
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  Of gnarly stuff they had to do. Yeah, yeah.
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  Opening box office was 6.7 million, worldwide gross 32.2
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  million IMDb 6.7. OK, really good.
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  I like that. All right, so I have a theme of
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  2025 movies here to compare it to and the theme is
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  relationships are hard. That's, that's fair, yeah.
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  So we're starting off one with the cheat code relationship and
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  that's companion. Oh boy, I and you love you love
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  to throw out a beep boop to me at.
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  Least beep boop is when? No.
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  Everybody talks shit about Beep Boop being a bad pet name.
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  Pet. It's a good pet name.
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  Beep Boop. Come on dude.
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  No, we could name a pet, beep boop.
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  But like a pet name for a person, you're in a relationship
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  with a sentient. Being beep boop.
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  I like it. I thought it was cute.
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  No, I thought it was cute. Sue me.
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  Fucking sue me. No, I know how much money you
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  have. Okay, all right, so Companion
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  came out January 31st, 2025 Budget 10 million Worldwide
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  Gross 36.9 million IMDb 6.9. That is a.
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  That's a fun one if you. Have That was a really good
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  movie yeah it was one of those movies where I was expecting it
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  to be 1 type of story and it ended up being a completely
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  different type of story and I liked it so much better for.
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  That I thought I knew what the twist is going to be, and I was.
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  Like, Oh yeah, definitely recommend it if you've not seen
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  that one. All right, second movie drop.
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  So we did watch this. Remember, it's the one where
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  she's like on her date. Yeah, yeah.
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  She's got to kill him. Yeah, yeah, that right there.
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  That's more of a dating is hard, but also dating is part of
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  relationships so. Yeah, I mean, you have to do the
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  dating piece first. Yeah, and you got to do the
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  dating and sometimes you got to do the killing if you want to
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  make that relationship work, you know?
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  That's how it worked in our marriage.
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  That is yeah, that's the foundation right there.
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  So that came out April 11th, 25 budget of 11,000,000 worldwide
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  gross 28.7 IMDb 6.1. OK, I remember being solid.
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  I don't it never it didn't blow me away.
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  It didn't leave a like much of an impression.
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  Yeah. I don't know if it was that I
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  was distracted while I was watching it or that it was easy
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  to be distracted from, you know what I mean?
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  Like I can't remember fully. Yeah.
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  All right. Then the final movie, Keeper.
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  Oh, Keeper. So Keeper was a movie that we
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  watched last year in the theaters and I think that.
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  Friends and most of us for the opinion that it was not great.
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  It has its fans because. Have its.
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  Fans we the next day we went to one of the watch meetings and
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  there were plenty of people defending it, but our whole
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  group hated it. Not our whole group.
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  Almost our whole group -1 person hated it.
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  Yeah. I just, I don't know, like, you
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  know, Osgood, Oz Perkins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  He, he did a swing and a miss for that.
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  One yeah, I generally love what he does.
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  I just felt like there were, I mean, this could be it's whole
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  episode. I just felt like there wasn't
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  enough. Yeah.
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  Back story there. It was OK.
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  It was a weird one. Maybe we will talk about that
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  one one day. Maybe.
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  Yeah, maybe. But that released November 14th.
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  25 budget of 6,000,000 worldwide gross 5.8 IMDb 5.5.
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  I'm surprised it's a 5.5. It seems like it might be a just
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  a divisive movie. Yeah.
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  OK, so time for tag lines. Got no tag lines.
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  Not a single tag line. Dare I I Yeah, it's just how how
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  could you? I mean, even like Allison Brie
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  and Dave Franco also produced this, I believe.
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  So like the the blame falls on them also, if you ask me.
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  Yeah, it's a bit disappointing, but that means we have our work
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  cut out for us at the end of the episode.
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  Or it means like we don't have our work cut out because we've
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  got no bar to rise above. That's true.
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  Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
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  OK, So I have fun facts. So this movie was shot in 21
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  days. They shot it in Melbourne,
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  Australia. Even though this is set in
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  Washington state, they were able to use.
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  I did not know Australia had woods like that.
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  I didn't either, but I I'm not surprised.
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  I would be afraid to shoot anything in the woods in
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  Australia because of the beasts that they have over there, like
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  a kangaroo can come out of the. Both the flora and the fauna are
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  terrifying drop bears. Drop bears, Mega spiders, It
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  might not even be a thing, but your.
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  Voice cracked there. There are tears in his eyes
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  right now. That I would love to visit
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  Australia, but that's just one of those places where like the
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  spider situation over there it's like a I'd have to overcome
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  that. I don't think I could go to an
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  area like they like where they went for this.
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  Yeah. OK so they were able to use sex
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  toys as prop genitalia for that bathroom scene.
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  The reason or the way that they were able to get that is Shanks
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  partner worked at a sex toy company so they were able to
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  provide that from that. And then they also just gave
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  that to the prosthetics team and they were able to just like put
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  little pubes and stuff on there and just make it look a little
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  bit realistic. Yeah.
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  Like don't reinvent the wheel, you already got fake peens that
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  are safe, just use them you know?
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  Yeah, rather than actually getting like, what if there's
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  like, OK, guys, we're going to need you to actually glue
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  yourselves like Speaking of the prosthetics, they also the
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  prosthetic that they use for when they were conjoined, they
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  had to stay like that for several hours, like where their
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  arms were tied together. Yeah.
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  So they had to do like bathroom trips and stuff like that
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  together, which, you know, there, there are, there are a.
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  Little chemistry with your castmate.
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  Well, yeah, they're married, so you know it.
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  It works. Oh, I did not realize that.
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  You know, they were. Yeah.
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  They've been, they've been married since like 2017.
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  Wow. OK.
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  Yeah. So that, I mean, that's why they
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  have great chemistry in this movie to begin with, because
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  they're already, you know, a couple.
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  OK, well, cool, good for. Them.
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  So with Tilly, they they wanted to come across that combination.
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  By the way, Tilly is the name of the, like the combined version
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  of them. Yeah.
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  So they wanted that to be not like some kind of monstrosity
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  like you might be worried about when you watch the movie.
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  They wanted that to be somebody that you would walk by on the
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  street and not recognize. That's, and I think that's one
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  of the really great things about this movie is when you first see
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  like the picture of Jamie when they were separate, you're like,
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  yeah, oh, wow, Both those people kind of look like Jamie.
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  I know like they actually did a great job with that right there
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  and it's really cool how they came up with like making Tilly
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  in this right here. So it's a combination of makeup
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  and compositing with like the videos.
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  So they started off, they took pictures of both of them and
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  they looked at both of their features and did like several
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  composites. And they tried to identify what
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  feature of both of their faces was necessary to be able to like
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  identify both of them in a single person.
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  So it started off with Alison Brie wearing a wig and they used
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  make up to give her the Franco eyebrows, which are massive.
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  They kept Bree's eyes the same, but they gave her brown contacts
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  for Franco's eye collar. And then they shot Dave, who had
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  dots all over his face. And then they used his jaw and
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  his lips for the person. And then by doing this, they
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  just you like combine both footage and were able to just
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  make that one person. So it wasn't, it wasn't even CG,
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  it was just makeup effects and just like compositing with that
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  right there. Yeah, yeah.
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  It's super impressive with how they did that.
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  And then obviously, we should talk about the plagiarism claim
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  that this movie. Yeah.
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  Went through that. That was a big to do surrounding
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  it. Yeah, yeah.
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  So and like, it's it's a pretty compelling thing here.
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  It could be a crazy like a, an incident of crazy coincidence.
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  So what happened? In May 25 Shanks Brief, Franco
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  and Neon were sued in a lawsuit alleging that copyright
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  infringement on the 2023 film Better Half by writer director
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  Patrick Henry Felon. Better Half was pitched to Bree
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  and Franco in August of 2020, who rejected an offer to star
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  because they wanted to produce it themselves and have William
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  Morris Endeavour hire a writer for the material.
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  Shanks denied the allegations, stating that he wrote and
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  registered the first draft of his screenplay to the Writers
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  Guild of America in 2019, received development funding
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  from Screen Australia in 2020, and that his agent pitched
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  Franco his script. Oh, OK, so the timing of all
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  this is pretty crazy. Yeah.
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  Like it sounds like it all kind of happened simultaneously.
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  You know, and we've talked about this plenty of times, how like
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  the the sci-fi original movies, they hear of a premise and they
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  kind of like we're into that really quickly.
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  And there's also just there are instances of people having very
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  similar ideas already out there. The timing of this.
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  So it's it is a little suspect. Yeah.
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  And here I've got the comparisons between the two that
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  the team weighed out. So in the synopsis of Better
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  Half, it was described as a surreal satirical comedy about a
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  man and a woman who have one night stand and wake up to see
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  that they have become literally and physically attached.
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  In both Better Half and together, The main characters
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  struggle to navigate daily life as their physical attachment
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  progresses and they start to control each other's body parts,
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  the complaint alleges. While at first they desperately
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  search for ways to detach their bodies from medical intervention
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  to chainsaws, by the end they resign themselves to their
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  conjoined existence. Among the similarities, the Suit
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  I Just Did is a strikingly similar it has a strikingly
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  similar bathroom sequence where the protagonists become attached
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  at the genitals and attempt to hide their intimate encounter
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  from a minor character waiting just outside.
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  And they also end with the couples pulling out a vinyl copy
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  of the Spice Girls album Spice World as they accept their fate.
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  OK, but if you're going to pick a song for that moment that will
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  resonate with a millennial audience that matches the age of
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  these characters, that was the payoff for that.
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  Like her throwaway line about the Spice Girls.
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  As soon as I saw them rummaging through the record bin at the
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  end, I was like, fuck yeah, fuck it.
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  Because, like, what other song are you going to use in that
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  moment? Jesse's a big Spice Girls fan
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  here too, so yeah, it was. Amazing.
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  Yeah, I mean, like I, I can understand, but it is kind of
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  crazy that all of those things are in both of those movies
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  because I mean, it's it sounds very similar.
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  Yeah, the the existence I'm not going to take the the song is
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  because that's just. I mean, that's like, yeah,
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  that's that's just, that's good sense.
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  Yes, but some of those other scenes seem similar, Yeah.
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  That I mean that right there, I, I think that's probably the most
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  standing for me. Personally, that's the most
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  horrifying scene in the. Home.
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  Exactly. Like on.
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  Everybody, every level, because both men and women can equally
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  just like, be like, oh, it's not that right there.
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  Pain. It is the fact that they are in
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  a children's public restroom that is true.
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  Horrifying. Yeah, and then there's a just
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  like the little feet just outside the stall watching.
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  It's so bad. It's so it's awkward.
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  We'll talk about that in. A minute though.
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  OK, so that's it for my phone. Fax.
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  OK, so let's get into our good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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  Kick it off, Jesse, what you like.
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  I think this was a really good movie about like a bunch of
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  different things that you go through in a relationship, like,
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  you know, that complacency stage, but also the codependency
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  and enmeshment. Like there, there's a lot that
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  we can probably dissect with it. There are there are moments
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  where just about anybody who's ever been in a relationship can
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  be like, I know what that is. I know what that feels like.
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  Like in Yeah, this movie does a really good job of like.
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  It, it gets those moments and like I just, I also relate a lot
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  to Franco's character and like his struggles with depression
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  and how it makes him feel like not worthy in the relationship.
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  Like that. Just it hits really hard.
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  Yeah, I see this movie. It goes for the heavy.
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  Hitting yeah. Like it goes for those because,
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  I mean, there are a lot of moments where I relate to both
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  of them in a lot of ways, you know?
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  And it's like, you know, I, I want this to be clear.
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  In no way are we like calling each other out in this right
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  here. We're not.
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  Doing the uncomfortable dinner scene here Yeah.
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  Neither of us feels trapped or hostage.
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  I'm just like I that like that it's.
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  It's something everybody experiences in a relationship.
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  If you're going to be in a relationship for a long time
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  like these people are, then you go through the ups and downs and
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  yeah, you experience all like a full range of all this shit and
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  like. They've been together about a
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  decade. And you're, you're going to
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  experience those things especially like, because it's
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  not even just like the ups and downs of the relationship.
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  It's the ups and downs of life, too.
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  Like Tim is trying to pursue this dream and it's just not
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  happening for him. And meanwhile, his partner has
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  different dreams and those are happening for her.
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  And it's just it's a lot. And like, he's got people close
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  to him that are succeeding. Yeah.
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  And. That's a That's a hard.
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  Feeling like. You feel, and I can understand
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  why he feels the way he does throughout this whole movie
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  because of that stuff. So dealing with that also, and
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  this is complex too, because I absolutely think that mental
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  health needs to be taken as seriously as physical health,
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  but I also, I really fucking appreciate them giving a male
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  character the type of gaslighting that a woman would
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  normally get in a doctor's office.
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  Yeah. And I'm not saying that like,
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  it's gaslighting to, like, suggest mental health stuff
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  because everything's connected, like we're holistic human
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  beings. But like, him saying, no, I feel
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  like something is physically actually wrong with me.
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  And the doctor's like, here's a Valium because I can't tell you
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  how many times I've gotten prescriptions like that.
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  And I'm like, but I can't breathe.
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  Yeah, this is all true stuff. I've been there with just doing
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  this stuff. Yeah.
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  So it's. To speak to that, they also do
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  the same with like Allison Blackmilly.
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  Like she also doesn't believe him either.
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  Yeah, You know, yeah. And I think that's really
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  interesting too. I, I also, the body horror of it
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  all is fantastic because like those little moments like where
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  he's just like sticking to The Cave and their legs are sticking
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  together, That's gross to begin with.
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  And like we see like their lips getting stuck and you just know,
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  you just know at some point, because sex has been a big part
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  of the plot line, you just know it's going to happen.
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  And the fact that it not only happens, but it happens in one
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  of the most horrifying all around scenes is intense.
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  And then we still have to get them like merged together and
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  like all of the the contortionism and whatnot that
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  they do. Like it's just all it's, it's a
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  really effective horror movie. Yeah, you nailed a lot of my
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  stuff too. And.
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  And obviously the use of two become one.
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  Yes, of course. Gotta be there.
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  Yeah, For me, the like, they do a good job building up the
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  tension between the two. I think it lies like a lot in
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  their relationship drama because like, this movie kind of is a
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  drama too. At the heart of it.
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  It's a horror movie, drama and comedy.
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  It's such a weird amalgamation of all these genres.
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  What? They are primed to have a visit
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  from the strangers. They are Oh my God.
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  Dream Sequel Dream Sequel dream. Sequel together with strangers.
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  That's the Super cut. Yes.
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  They're like, hey, we just we we thought we needed to add a
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  little bit of Franco and Allison Brie in here.
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  So. And there we go.
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  Yeah. I mean, but I I feel like they
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  do a really good job at hitting those emotional beats and they
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  do a really good job of making you uncomfortable in this movie.
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  This movie is just it is discomfort from beginning to
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  end. And it's all different ways too,
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  because like, you'll get like the social discomfort.
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  Oh my God, her proposing to him in front of all it's.
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  So awkward. Are you joking?
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  Yeah. And then it's just silence.
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  And then she just stands. Oh my God, This movie has so
• 20:21
  many moments like that. It will make you do that from
• 20:24
  like moments like that. It'll make you do that whenever
• 20:27
  they have like, they're conjoin and they're trying to RIP each
• 20:30
  other, like RIP apart from each other moments.
• 20:32
  It's just this movie makes you uncomfortable.
• 20:35
  Yeah, and it's also funny. Yeah, it's got like when she's
• 20:39
  going to saw through their arms and she's like, oh, also by the
• 20:42
  way, I'm really sorry I didn't believe you before.
• 20:44
  Obviously, you were right. Yeah, it's just like, I don't
• 20:47
  know, it hits a lot of beats. It doesn't really.
• 20:50
  Like, I I'm impressed that it goes so many.
• 20:52
  It's got a lot of range, it goes so many places, but it navigates
• 20:54
  it all seamlessly and it all works well with the story.
• 20:59
  All right. Bad.
• 21:03
  Bad. There's not a whole lot bad with
• 21:06
  this. I do think I love baby Franco.
• 21:13
  I know him more as a horror or a comedy person.
• 21:16
  Yeah, I think his like emotional monologue.
• 21:20
  I don't know that he was fully ready to support that.
• 21:23
  And. Then in a horror drama.
• 21:25
  So you don't think he did great? I like I felt the emotion of it.
• 21:29
  I think other people probably could have done it a little.
• 21:34
  Are you talking about the part where he's in The Cave?
• 21:36
  Yeah, giving a story. Yeah.
• 21:37
  He's talking about the rat in his ceiling and then finding his
• 21:40
  parents. And those are very central to
• 21:43
  his character and the things like.
• 21:45
  That's another good too, by the way, that whole thing with his
• 21:48
  like mom and dad that he saw like that.
• 21:51
  His trauma is. His trauma is nightmare, Yeah.
• 21:54
  It's just really, really creepy imagery.
• 21:57
  Yeah, I just that that monologue, I kind of wish it
• 21:59
  hadn't gone on as long as it did.
• 22:01
  Maybe we got like little breaks in between it just something a
• 22:05
  little bit different because I just think that, and I do think
• 22:09
  he's a great actor, don't get me wrong.
• 22:11
  I just think that was a lot of emotion for him to try and have
• 22:15
  to do in like a single like 5 minute bit and I feel like it
• 22:20
  just, it didn't, there weren't enough peaks and valleys in it
• 22:23
  with me. OK, that makes sense.
• 22:24
  No, I get that. And this is that's a nitpick.
• 22:27
  Doesn't nitpick because I do think this movie is generally
• 22:29
  excellent. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:31
  And that's kind of where I'm going to be with this, too.
• 22:33
  Like, it is kind of nitpicky, I know.
• 22:34
  Like, I'm going to, like, cheat and just, like, talk about what
• 22:38
  I see a lot of people complain about.
• 22:40
  And one of the things is the whole fact that they stay
• 22:42
  overnight in The Cave, which I don't know, it doesn't bother me
• 22:47
  that much because they're trying to like shelter from the storm.
• 22:50
  I slept on my pillow weird last night and my neck hurts today.
• 22:54
  I just. And we're their age.
• 22:56
  Yeah, like I just, I we're not sleeping in caves anytime soon
• 23:01
  and being OK after that. Yeah, exactly.
• 23:04
  Yeah. And I mean, and they like take a
• 23:08
  hard fall and they just have no damage from whatsoever.
• 23:12
  It is a little bit crazy, man. It's hard.
• 23:17
  It's hard for me to pick anything bad because I loved
• 23:19
  this movie so much and it held up again on a rewatch so I can't
• 23:25
  think of. Anything like we started, I
• 23:27
  think emotionally, like my brain shut off big parts of this,
• 23:31
  maybe because I was like, oh fuck, we have to go through this
• 23:33
  again. Yeah, fuck, we have to go
• 23:35
  through. This again.
• 23:39
  Sorry, ugly. The bathroom scene, there's
• 23:41
  that. There's the way mental health
• 23:47
  and physical health are treated in this as well.
• 23:51
  Like I said, I I do think he's definitely got some mental
• 23:54
  health needs that he needs to take care of.
• 23:55
  I I generally think that about most people though, you know?
• 23:58
  Yeah, that doesn't also deny the fact that something physical was
• 24:03
  going on with him. And I know that there's like a
• 24:05
  mental and physical link, but it wasn't psychosomatic for him.
• 24:10
  And as somebody who has had like the hysterical woman diagnosis
• 24:15
  thrust upon her time and time again, it's frustrating because
• 24:18
  I'll be the first to admit it, like, yeah, my brain juices,
• 24:22
  they're fucked up, but it's OK, I'm aware of that.
• 24:25
  And I'm aware of what's my brain versus what's my body.
• 24:28
  And especially, like, if you have a familial history with
• 24:31
  that and you've witnessed it and you've been around it your whole
• 24:34
  life, that's all the more reason to not have it dismissed.
• 24:38
  Yeah, 'cause it's like, no, I'm acutely aware.
• 24:41
  And like, you know, we referenced this earlier, but I
• 24:43
  was having really bad breathing issues several years ago and my
• 24:47
  primary care provider at the time was he refused to believe
• 24:52
  anything was ever physically wrong with me.
• 24:54
  And Travis is like, yeah, and Travis is like, all you need to
• 24:59
  go and get your breathing taken care of him.
• 25:00
  Like, he's not gonna do anything besides giving me more
• 25:03
  hydroxyzine, like, And I don't fucking want it.
• 25:05
  And Travis is like, well, I'll come with you.
• 25:07
  And what do you know? We got a pulmonary function test
• 25:10
  ordered, and that's how we found out I'm asthmatic.
• 25:13
  Yeah. And I have two inhalers.
• 25:15
  Yeah, it's a lot of bullshit. You've been through a lot of
• 25:17
  that stuff and a lot of people go through that.
• 25:19
  And it's, it is really unfortunate to see that it's
• 25:21
  still an ongoing issue. Yeah.
• 25:23
  And the weird thing is, like, it feels like people or being more
• 25:27
  cognizant, like, this is like a thing that goes on because I'm
• 25:31
  seeing it in so many Movies Now. Yeah.
• 25:33
  But like, it seems like it's still just like, this big
• 25:37
  problem that isn't really getting addressed.
• 25:40
  Yeah. I think it's just people being
• 25:41
  jaded at this point. People would like, they don't
• 25:44
  really care. They like, this is their job.
• 25:45
  They prescribe shit all day. They're like fuck it just give
• 25:47
  them some like ibuprofen like. Some of it, I know those
• 25:51
  insurance requirements and some of it like we do need to work
• 25:54
  really hard to destigmatize like seeking care for mental health.
• 25:59
  But it can't come at the cost of like treating the whole human.
• 26:04
  It's like almost a reverse looks like, you know, like, oh, we're
• 26:09
  not going to treat anything physical and we're going to
• 26:11
  treat everything is mental and it that's not how human beings
• 26:14
  are. Yeah, OK, well that's that's a
• 26:17
  good ugly. My my ugly is the opening part
• 26:20
  with the docs. Oh my God.
• 26:22
  That's so bad for them. Thing coded too.
• 26:25
  Yeah, it is, isn't. It I wrote thing things are
• 26:28
  happening. The things or the thing?
• 26:33
  No thing things are happening. The thing Things are happening.
• 26:37
  OK, yeah, I know. OK, I got you.
• 26:39
  It could be both, but man, I feel bad for those dogs because
• 26:43
  I feel. Bad for that little girl who
• 26:45
  clearly followed her dad out to the kennel and saw all that.
• 26:48
  And she's drawing pictures of it and shit but like.
• 26:51
  What? What is what happening with
• 26:53
  Alice or Anna or whatever the fuck her name is?
• 26:55
  It's in my notes somewhere, but like.
• 26:57
  That's no. She's late to PE because she's
• 26:59
  drawing this demon dog on her paper.
• 27:02
  Come on, Millie, you said you came to the school, so you help
• 27:05
  work with kids on an individual level.
• 27:07
  This this child is crying out for help.
• 27:10
  She wokes up the paper. She's like, oh man, he looks
• 27:12
  like he needs some ibuprofen. It's just like, go see the
• 27:14
  doctor, they'll prescribe you. But man, it's the whimpering.
• 27:20
  Yeah, the dog. I fucking hate that in movies.
• 27:23
  It just it's an automatic like it gets me.
• 27:26
  I I hope the dogs like because we never saw their final form.
• 27:31
  Like I wish we had seen their final form.
• 27:33
  They got shot, right? Yeah.
• 27:35
  He just presumably he kills. Like he came in, you know, mid
• 27:38
  thing thing, Yeah. And.
• 27:40
  Yeah, he put him out of its out of its misery.
• 27:43
  When he could have had a really interesting hybrid.
• 27:45
  He could have, that's the thing. Like he's just like hold on, let
• 27:48
  it cook. That's what the kid says.
• 27:51
  Cuz that's what kids say. Like what the fuck does that
• 27:54
  mean? 67.
• 27:57
  Oh, OK, let it 6-7. OK, there we go.
• 28:01
  OK, what's your absurd? That that Tim is a an indie like
• 28:09
  vaporwave shoe gaze type musician in the Pacific
• 28:13
  Northwest and has zero tattoos. Oh my God, you were so right.
• 28:18
  I remember talking about this with our friends after we left
• 28:21
  the movie, and then we all started arguing about where our
• 28:24
  tattoos would go if we were in a together situation, which you
• 28:27
  and I, we're good because the only places you have tattoos are
• 28:31
  the only places I don't. Yeah, there there's no
• 28:33
  overlapping. Here, but the couple we were
• 28:34
  with. Yeah, they.
• 28:36
  'D have some merging tattoos going on.
• 28:38
  Yeah, you'd you have to get those covered up or something.
• 28:41
  Yeah. And I was like, you know, they
• 28:43
  had, they should have been able to answer that question for us
• 28:46
  because Tim should have had some tattoos.
• 28:49
  Yeah, have one person be like that.
• 28:52
  Yeah, he at least had like the the fuzzy sweater, the fuzzy
• 28:55
  cardigan. Yeah, this movie, it had a New
• 28:58
  York 5 to me when they were in the city.
• 28:59
  That's where I've always thought that they were.
• 29:02
  Nope, they're Washington PNWP. NW Seattle probably.
• 29:08
  All right. God am I absurd.
• 29:15
  I'm going to just go with that fucking dinner.
• 29:18
  With Jamie. With Jamie, where there's just
• 29:21
  so much weird energy the entire time.
• 29:24
  And it the way it just slips into it, like it's innocent
• 29:28
  turns and phrases and then like the tensions just kind of keep
• 29:31
  ratcheting up and up and like Millie is a little bit too tipsy
• 29:35
  and being a little bit too playfully mean.
• 29:39
  Yeah, and he's. Because I it's like I'm a
• 29:42
  hostage, he said. Hostages don't cook their own
• 29:44
  meals and it's just like. What's this the passive
• 29:46
  aggressive part where like Jamie's about to pour her like a
• 29:49
  refill and he's like, I've got it and like grabs a bottle and
• 29:51
  does it himself. It's just holy shit.
• 29:53
  There's so much just aggression in this dinner scene and it just
• 29:57
  makes me so uncomfortable. Although the only thing that
• 29:59
  makes it a little bit better after the fact is that Jamie was
• 30:02
  probably counting on all that. He probably was.
• 30:05
  I think he planted those seeds. It was absolutely not a problem
• 30:09
  for him. There was another thing I meant
• 30:11
  to bring about in the fun Facts, but they they had to change his
• 30:16
  whole thing in China because China does not like the same sex
• 30:21
  marriage stuff. So they they made it to where he
• 30:25
  was conjoined in like a heterosexual relationship.
• 30:29
  And Neon got really, really upset about it because they did.
• 30:31
  They made that change without their permission.
• 30:35
  Jesus. And then they like they forced
• 30:36
  China to just like, cease distribution of the film.
• 30:39
  Good. Yeah.
• 30:41
  Good. Yeah.
• 30:42
  So additional fun facts, you know, that's what we've been
• 30:45
  doing this month. We've just been sprinkling them
• 30:47
  and throughout the whole episodes.
• 30:49
  Yeah. OK, OK.
• 30:51
  Where are we rated? 09 and a.
• 30:53
  Half OK I'm right there with you man 9 1/2 this movie.
• 30:58
  I hope the plagiarism thing isn't true because I would
• 31:00
  really bum bum me up because I love this movie so much.
• 31:03
  Yeah. Man, I had developments on that
• 31:06
  too, and there hasn't been anything since like 6 months
• 31:10
  ago. So yeah, not fun.
• 31:12
  All right, all right, there we are, nine and a half, 9 1/2.
• 31:15
  All right, let's do it. So we start off.
• 31:19
  We're in the woods. Some folks are searching for
• 31:21
  Simon and Carrie, and they got dogs helping with the search.
• 31:24
  But the dogs are actually in search of water.
• 31:28
  We find out later they didn't know where Simon and Carrie were
• 31:31
  because Simon and Carrie were in that cave.
• 31:34
  Yeah, they weren't the dogs. Probably felt the bad.
• 31:37
  The bad vibes and they were like, all right, let's just
• 31:39
  drink a little water and leave. Were Simon and Kelly the like?
• 31:41
  The the couple that was missing. No, I know.
• 31:45
  Like, were they? The big like the fucking
• 31:47
  conjoined thing that was going after Tim yes OK, so and I'm.
• 31:51
  Jumping far ahead. Here with this but I just wanted
• 31:54
  to know yeah the implicate well we'll.
• 31:56
  Get to that. The implication at the end?
• 31:58
  Well, yeah, we'll talk about them.
• 31:59
  But yeah, so the. The search guy who has the dogs,
• 32:03
  he sees them in the woods and they're just like frozen and
• 32:05
  staring at each other. Which would be kind of weird if
• 32:08
  you aren't used to dogs like and just cats too.
• 32:11
  I was. Telling some friends the other
• 32:13
  day, like, I walked into the cat room the other day and I saw
• 32:16
  Cordelia in one litter box and Zoe in another, and they're just
• 32:20
  staring at each other while they're using the litter box,
• 32:23
  and it felt like I was interrupting.
• 32:24
  You were? Yeah, you were.
• 32:26
  Not meant to be there so whenever I see this in the movie
• 32:29
  here I'm. Like, this is, this is better,
• 32:31
  this is an improvement because there's no like, peeing going on
• 32:34
  at the same time. They're just staring at each
• 32:36
  other, unfortunately. When they get home, he puts them
• 32:40
  in a greenhouse. Weird choice.
• 32:43
  Yeah. And then they hear sounds
• 32:46
  outside, like the little girl calls to her dad and he goes
• 32:49
  check on the dogs. It's like sounds of them in
• 32:51
  pain. Yeah.
• 32:52
  So yeah, he like walks up there. It's very much like.
• 32:55
  When they go to the dog kennel in the thing, it is, yeah, it's.
• 33:02
  A glimpse. It's really fast and it's almost
• 33:04
  like a jump scare and then it cuts to the title screen, but
• 33:08
  it's a really effective opening. But then we cut to a going away.
• 33:11
  Party Tim is looking through records and he finds some photos
• 33:14
  of him and Millie, and then he finds a photo of him and his
• 33:17
  parents and he looks sad. And we cut to Maddie talking to
• 33:22
  Calf because Calf's concerned about their relationship and of
• 33:26
  moving and being isolated is really the best thing.
• 33:28
  And Millie's like, he's been through a lot, so, you know,
• 33:32
  we'll find out explicitly later, but it seems like his parents
• 33:35
  have died pretty recently. Yeah, that's how it seems to me
• 33:37
  too. He is.
• 33:40
  Outside talking to some of his friends, one of whom is Millie's
• 33:42
  brother. And he, he's, I'm a musician,
• 33:46
  but he's not with the label anymore.
• 33:48
  So probably that's part of, you know, his recent trauma hasn't
• 33:53
  been producing enough to stay with the label.
• 33:56
  But their band is going on tour. They need a guitarist.
• 33:59
  He's a guitarist. What do you know?
• 34:01
  White guy from the Pacific Northwest who has aspirations of
• 34:04
  being a musician. He plays guitar.
• 34:06
  What get him in? So he's like, yeah, no, I'll.
• 34:09
  Do it. It's fine.
• 34:10
  It's fine, Yeah. He's like, yeah.
• 34:12
  Because like. He can't drive and there he's
• 34:14
  like moving way upstairs, so he's like going to have to go
• 34:17
  down there and they're like there's going to be a lot of
• 34:19
  practices and stuff too. And he's like, it's fine, fine,
• 34:21
  I'll make it work, whatever this like.
• 34:24
  Rewatching this last night made me appreciate how quick
• 34:26
  everything happens in this movie.
• 34:28
  This is all like a week. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:32
  So. He goes inside, there's a
• 34:35
  goodbye toast from the friends and then the couple themselves.
• 34:39
  There's somebody in the crowd. And I could not find any
• 34:43
  verifiable information, but I swear to God, it looks like
• 34:46
  Dylan Efron. And we have seen that man on our
• 34:47
  screen so much recently since we've been binging The Traitors.
• 34:52
  And he was also on the last season of Dancing with the
• 34:54
  Stars. I firmly believe that Dylan
• 34:56
  Efron. I could see him and the Franco.
• 34:58
  I could see the Efron and the Franco's knowing each other.
• 34:59
  I could say to you, they're like little brother power.
• 35:01
  Like, hey, we're, we're here because of our brother's
• 35:04
  success. Dave Franco doesn't have to go
• 35:08
  on reality. TV shows Dave No Dave Franco.
• 35:11
  But he made it on his own. But don't tell me he didn't
• 35:15
  benefit from having his brother in there first.
• 35:17
  He did. Absolutely he did.
• 35:18
  But. He doesn't go everywhere and be
• 35:20
  like, but my Big Brother though, right?
• 35:22
  Actually, Dave Franco has become the.
• 35:23
  Superior Franco? Yeah, Dave Franco is the better
• 35:25
  Franco. By all counts, Yep.
• 35:28
  OK, anyway. Speech time.
• 35:31
  Yeah, because this is where Tim, he's like.
• 35:33
  Giving this big thank you speech to everybody and he doesn't turn
• 35:37
  around he. Doesn't sense movement behind
• 35:40
  him much in a way you never seen the sense of movement behind
• 35:44
  you. You are the same.
• 35:46
  Way damn it, yours is more in public though mine is at home
• 35:52
  anyway. Everybody's just kind of like,
• 35:55
  waiting for him to turn around. Everybody else knew she was
• 35:57
  gonna do this. He didn't know that she was
• 35:58
  gonna do this. He turns around and she
• 36:01
  proposes, and she does a little. Yeah, she.
• 36:04
  Doesn't even have a ring. She just like, opens up her
• 36:06
  hands. They're not the ring type.
• 36:07
  No, that probably. Would have been his 1st tattoo.
• 36:12
  He used to have a tattoo. Yeah, but he's like.
• 36:15
  Are you joking? And then she's like, OK, so it's
• 36:18
  a no. It's so.
• 36:21
  Drawn out, she's like, no, I'm dead serious.
• 36:24
  And then he, he's like, yes, he's of course, yeah.
• 36:28
  He said he he only replies. Whenever she stands up because,
• 36:32
  like, he's like, OK, I like panic mode.
• 36:33
  He's got to say something at that point.
• 36:35
  Yeah. And everybody like, it's just
• 36:38
  like one clap, like in like a silent room of everybody just
• 36:42
  staring. I'm not going to lie if I was in
• 36:44
  that. Crowd and that happened.
• 36:45
  I probably would have tried to. I would have done a whoo, yeah,
• 36:49
  try. And lie in the moon.
• 36:49
  Like try and make this a little bit better.
• 36:51
  Because if we're all being silent right now, this is making
• 36:53
  it worse for everybody. Oh boy.
• 36:56
  And then we cut to them in bed and.
• 36:58
  Millie asks if he still wants to be with her or if they're just
• 37:02
  comfortable with each other. And it's like I'd say if we're
• 37:07
  gonna do it. It's better for us to split now
• 37:09
  because it'll be much harder later, yeah.
• 37:12
  That we're. Gonna get a very.
• 37:13
  Poignant call back to that later on.
• 37:16
  And he, you know, in his dream, we find out it's a dream in a
• 37:21
  second. But like at first he's like,
• 37:22
  everybody knows that you need me more than I need you.
• 37:24
  And he's like, what? Why would you say that?
• 37:26
  She goes, you're just going to resent me.
• 37:27
  He's like, what? And then he looks up and his
• 37:29
  moms on the other end of the room and he's like, what?
• 37:31
  And then he wakes up and they're in their new house.
• 37:33
  The way that this whole thing. Unfolds is really unsettling
• 37:35
  because it's seamless from them having their conversation
• 37:38
  becoming a nightmare. And you can also tell with the
• 37:40
  way it's shot, like the way the lenses are.
• 37:43
  Yeah, the the color grading. Just shifts kind of gradually
• 37:46
  and they like and I think that they.
• 37:48
  Do a really good job of making this feel like a nightmare
• 37:50
  because it's like weirdly nonsensical dialogue that makes
• 37:53
  sense. It's like, why would you say
• 37:55
  that to me? It's like, don't like, don't
• 37:57
  talk. They're watching us.
• 37:58
  She's like, why are they here? I don't, I don't like it when
• 38:00
  they watch us. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:02
  Oh my God. And the imagery of his mom is
• 38:04
  just so. And the fact that we find out
• 38:07
  later that that's what she actually looked like, this isn't
• 38:09
  some kind of thing that's built up in his head.
• 38:11
  Yeah. Fucking crazy.
• 38:14
  So. He wakes up in their new house.
• 38:17
  They've already moved and Millia's outside.
• 38:19
  She is moving in some boxes. Mostly she was looking for the
• 38:22
  coffee maker. I'm gonna be honest, that's been
• 38:25
  us every single move. Like the coffee stuff is the
• 38:27
  first thing on pack coffee and whatever modem we have for our
• 38:33
  Internet. Those are the things that those
• 38:34
  are things. We're we're Gucci, baby.
• 38:36
  Yeah, those, that's all we. Need.
• 38:38
  Yeah. So, you know, they're just, they
• 38:41
  have a little bit of chit chat and they're moving some stuff
• 38:44
  and we get Chekhov's power tool and Tim smells something.
• 38:48
  He's going around saying, like, I can smell it, can't you smell
• 38:50
  it? You know, I lived out far enough
• 38:53
  that we would have, you know, mice dye outside of the house
• 38:57
  and like you can smell that smell.
• 38:59
  So I know the smell that he's talking about.
• 39:00
  I do too. I had one die.
• 39:02
  In my walls in my bedroom one time.
• 39:04
  Oh my God. Yeah.
• 39:05
  And like. We've had a bird die out in our
• 39:07
  yard here, even and I, we've had several.
• 39:10
  I remember that. Opening and the first time we.
• 39:12
  Were like, I smell something. You're like, I don't smell it.
• 39:13
  Like no, I swear to God, there's this.
• 39:15
  There is a dead animal somewhere nearby, so it he's going crazy
• 39:20
  trying to find it. And for some reason I wouldn't
• 39:22
  have thought to do this. I'm going to be paranoid for the
• 39:24
  rest of my life. But he goes to.
• 39:27
  Yeah, he goes to. A light fixture.
• 39:28
  And he pulls it down and he pulls out a king rat.
• 39:31
  That's what it's called when they're acting.
• 39:32
  But yeah, Yep. It's where they all get their
• 39:35
  tails wound together and it gets like stuck with like all kinds
• 39:38
  of weird stuff and shit. They just kind of can't get it
• 39:41
  undone. And he tosses it into the.
• 39:43
  Woods, one of them is still alive.
• 39:45
  That's upsetting. It is super upsetting.
• 39:48
  Gross. So we got to Millie at the
• 39:50
  school. And this unpleasant older woman
• 39:53
  comes up and says, did you bring that from home?
• 39:56
  And at first I think she's talking about the mug.
• 39:58
  That's what I thought, too, yeah.
• 39:59
  And then she goes or. Did you take that from?
• 40:01
  My tin. And she's talking about the tin.
• 40:03
  And she goes, oh, I just thought it was kind of, you know, for
• 40:06
  everybody. Yeah.
• 40:08
  Carol definitely has like, her own Creamer labeled in the
• 40:11
  fridge. She.
• 40:12
  Yeah. And everybody.
• 40:13
  Uses it, Yeah, still. Yeah, but enter Jamie, who
• 40:18
  interferes just like gets in between them and cuts it off.
• 40:21
  Yeah. He's like, hey, you want any
• 40:22
  cream or sugar or anything like that just to kind of break the
• 40:25
  tension there. I love this little.
• 40:27
  Introduction because he he says he's part of the hiring
• 40:30
  committee. So they sit down and get to know
• 40:32
  each other a little bit more. And he was like, so did you move
• 40:36
  here alone? She goes, no, I'm with my.
• 40:37
  She goes, she can't say fiance. Yeah.
• 40:42
  Even if he did eventually say yes, that's not a really no.
• 40:44
  I wouldn't count it. Yeah.
• 40:45
  She's like boyfriend sounds immature.
• 40:47
  Partner. Boy.
• 40:48
  Partner Tim. My boy.
• 40:51
  Partner Tim. Yeah.
• 40:53
  And then he was like, so have you done any exploring?
• 40:55
  She was partners. I can't believe she went.
• 40:58
  To that immediately that is awkward.
• 41:01
  I could see like having. That thought in your head, but
• 41:03
  that's an inside thought. Yeah, Yeah, that's an inside.
• 41:06
  Thought I mean even the. Exploring I'm.
• 41:07
  Thinking like what? Like toys like I'm not thinking
• 41:10
  like partners. I would just.
• 41:12
  I would. Out loud.
• 41:13
  Say, what do you mean? Yeah.
• 41:15
  Yeah, exactly. And it's just because there's a
• 41:17
  lot of good hiking. Trails in the area.
• 41:19
  And she says where she's from. And he's like, oh, I he's like,
• 41:22
  I know that this sounds super small town, but like, I think I
• 41:24
  live right down the road from you.
• 41:26
  I think we're neighbors. So he was like, telling her to.
• 41:28
  There are some good trails that she should check out with her
• 41:32
  boy partner Tim. And she gets home.
• 41:37
  Tim is learning the music for the gig on Thursday.
• 41:40
  He asked Millie if she'll be able to drop him off at the
• 41:42
  train station. She says, yeah, no problem.
• 41:45
  Do you want to come to bed? He goes, I have got to.
• 41:49
  Yeah, I've got to learn this stuff before the gig.
• 41:52
  Do you want to do the hike in the morning?
• 41:54
  Yeah. So the next day they.
• 41:56
  Go hiking, but the trail end feels really abrupt and they're
• 42:01
  like, there's this area might be part of the trail, but it looks
• 42:04
  pretty overgrown. And Tim's like, no, no, no,
• 42:06
  there's like a marking. There's like a bell with like,
• 42:08
  yeah, there's bells around. The way and she's like, I just
• 42:11
  don't know I. Don't want to be like the dumb
• 42:13
  city folk that get lost in the woods.
• 42:14
  He's like, it's a great day. I don't want to end the hike.
• 42:17
  We can always turn around. It's fine.
• 42:19
  Yeah, let's do this. Immediate cut to just being
• 42:22
  raining and they're lost and he pulls on his phone.
• 42:26
  And he's like, all right, that's North.
• 42:30
  And she's like, okay, what do we?
• 42:32
  Do with that the whole way that. This goes like okay, what do we
• 42:37
  do? He's like I don't know, I just
• 42:39
  thought it would help such. Much realistic dialogue.
• 42:43
  This is you and me, right? Yes.
• 42:44
  I could see you being like. Well, that's north and then I'd
• 42:47
  be like, OK and. I'd be like, I mean, which way
• 42:50
  are we supposed to? Go This hits so close.
• 42:53
  To home to me. This is why I really started to
• 42:55
  remember when I found N That's why I chose it as the opening.
• 42:58
  Because I know that you reference that quite often, even
• 43:01
  though you never find north. I wouldn't find North.
• 43:05
  I would not be able to. So they keep walking around but
• 43:10
  he falls in a hole and he's hanging on the edge and she
• 43:13
  reaches in to try and grab him and pull him out but she slips
• 43:15
  and they both fall into it. And the first thing he says is.
• 43:18
  Shit, my phone, my demos were on it.
• 43:20
  And she goes, I'm okay, yeah, bad, bad stuff.
• 43:27
  They're like old pieces. Of pews and stuff in this cave.
• 43:30
  It would actually like it, you know, if they hadn't just busted
• 43:34
  their tailbones and weren't, like, wet and miserable, this
• 43:36
  would be an interesting cave to explore.
• 43:38
  Yeah, it looks kind of cool. He's got a lighter and she's
• 43:40
  like. Why do you have that?
• 43:41
  And he was like, don't worry about that now let's start a
• 43:44
  fire. And she goes, you don't know how
• 43:45
  to start a fire. And then they're both really
• 43:47
  thirsty. They only have a little bit of
• 43:49
  water left and he's like, well, I'm gonna go check this.
• 43:52
  Well, and she was like, that seems like a bad idea.
• 43:54
  He goes, no, it's fine. Yeah, he just drinks from.
• 43:56
  It she gets the queen water. Yep.
• 43:59
  And I like this scene where he's building the fire and he's like,
• 44:02
  she's like, what are you doing? Like, yeah, you remember like
• 44:04
  man versus wild when they did that?
• 44:05
  Like you remember when we watched it?
• 44:07
  Like yeah, but you fucking don't.
• 44:10
  And then she's like, so about that lighter.
• 44:12
  And he's like, loosen. And she goes, she pulls out a
• 44:14
  cigarette and goes, when did you start?
• 44:16
  And she's like, right before the movie because me too.
• 44:18
  And she's like, all right, tomorrow we both quit again.
• 44:21
  Yeah. I like this moment.
• 44:22
  This is. Cool where we have a little bit
• 44:23
  of them being good with each other and then we get.
• 44:27
  Franco's childhood and adulthood trauma dump.
• 44:29
  Oh my God, he just goes. Hard in it because he's talking
• 44:33
  about that smell and apparently his dad had a whole incident
• 44:37
  like that when he was a kid where there was like something
• 44:39
  dead in the walls or whatever it was.
• 44:41
  Yeah, it was above his. Light.
• 44:42
  And so basically, like it was cooking the smell of the rat
• 44:46
  every day, but because that was his room, like he wasn't
• 44:48
  noticing it. Yeah, he was just like just
• 44:51
  cooking every day and just breathing it in.
• 44:53
  And then he said like the. Same thing basically happened to
• 44:56
  his mom because she woke up 1 morning his dad was dead and
• 45:00
  something in her brain just snapped and she couldn't process
• 45:03
  it. And so she was still getting up
• 45:04
  and going to bed and going about her life with him there, dead in
• 45:07
  the bed and getting, you know, deader and deader by the day.
• 45:10
  And it's upsetting. He came home and.
• 45:14
  He it took all of his power to be able to fight through the
• 45:17
  smell. And he walked into the room.
• 45:19
  He just saw her there smiling, like we've seen in these
• 45:21
  nightmares. Like what we are seeing in that
• 45:23
  nightmare is what he saw when he walked into the room that day.
• 45:26
  Yeah, which is fucking terrifying.
• 45:28
  And yeah, that night he's dreaming.
• 45:32
  That The Cave is breathing with him.
• 45:34
  And yeah, it almost felt like a. Trip from like Midsummer, yeah,
• 45:38
  so some of the stuff. With this movie, especially the
• 45:40
  music and like the themes with the relationship and everything,
• 45:44
  like Very Midsummer asked, I just think that's a thing of.
• 45:47
  This decade, that's what the 2020 20s are, is relationship
• 45:52
  horror. They wake up.
• 45:54
  Millie's phone has fallen into a small puddle as well.
• 45:58
  Their legs are stuck together and Tim says probably mildew.
• 46:05
  What? That's a.
• 46:07
  Dumb thing. To say but also really gross
• 46:09
  yeah, so they. They pull them apart.
• 46:11
  It's it's pretty hard, but they're OK.
• 46:13
  They climb out and they make it back home.
• 46:15
  Yep. And she has showered, she says
• 46:19
  she's going to run to the store. They they don't have food.
• 46:22
  And he's like, well, we used to have rice and she goes, well,
• 46:24
  can't have both of our phones needing to be replaced right
• 46:27
  now. She's hoping the rice works
• 46:29
  miracles with hers. And she asked him for a shoulder
• 46:33
  massage just for a couple minutes.
• 46:34
  And then he like, kind of goes into a trance and is just, he's
• 46:39
  like really pulling at her. He's like going really, really.
• 46:42
  Hard. He's putting his fingers well
• 46:45
  within her, like, muscles there. Yeah.
• 46:47
  And she's like, got like. Handfuls of her skin and it's
• 46:50
  not like Alison Brie has a ton of excess skin, right?
• 46:53
  Yeah, it's it's upset and she's like, you don't look good.
• 46:57
  How about you stay here while I run to town and maybe also take
• 47:00
  a shower and she gets into the car and like we see these
• 47:06
  parallel movements and I read something online because the way
• 47:09
  that she was turning the car ignition, they had to make the
• 47:11
  shower knob go the same way. So it was kind of like installed
• 47:14
  weird. No, I, I saw I.
• 47:16
  Was reading about this too. They had to mirror her shot
• 47:19
  because if you look at the shot of her turning the ignition the
• 47:21
  on thing is like flipped. It says no instead.
• 47:24
  OK, OK. Yeah.
• 47:27
  But yeah, the way that they did that was really cool because
• 47:29
  they they got it pretty accurate because anytime she would make a
• 47:32
  movement, he makes a movement in the shower, mimicking it.
• 47:35
  Yeah. And at one point he is like.
• 47:37
  Just moving so hard into the shower wall he like busts a tile
• 47:40
  with his head. The movement when they get like.
• 47:42
  This in this movie reminds me so much of PT the the ghost
• 47:47
  character that follows you and how it's all twitchy and stuff.
• 47:50
  Yeah, it's just like that. And he can't handle being away
• 47:54
  from her. He.
• 47:57
  Goes to a Doctor Who just like doesn't want to hear any of it
• 48:01
  he's like, here take this he goes Valium he goes well, we
• 48:04
  call it diazepam now it's also weird how this doctor's like oh
• 48:08
  by. The way you hear about the
• 48:09
  missing people in the woods, like what?
• 48:11
  It's dude, we're not even. Talking about that right now,
• 48:14
  the. Doctor part of this cult too.
• 48:15
  Maybe he, maybe I. Think he probably is.
• 48:19
  So Tim looks up Carrie and Simon, that's the missing couple
• 48:24
  and he Millie comes in and he explains, you know the whole
• 48:30
  back story about it. And then he jokes about like
• 48:33
  having a very basic Last Post on social media when you guys cuz
• 48:37
  he's stalking their. Her Facebook.
• 48:39
  The person's Facebook, Yeah. Carrie's.
• 48:41
  Yeah. And.
• 48:42
  I can't remember. What it is, but it was something
• 48:44
  really basic nature and. Life or whatever.
• 48:48
  And then Millie's like, well, what would your Last Post be if
• 48:53
  you died tonight? And pulls it up.
• 48:55
  And it's something that Millie had tagged him in.
• 48:57
  That said, we took the pledge. Yeah.
• 49:00
  And. That's a perfect one.
• 49:02
  Yeah, I love her. Response to this because like I
• 49:04
  make these cheesy posts too and she's like listen it's just
• 49:07
  something to update our family. It makes my mom happy and that's
• 49:10
  pretty much how I look at it. I related to it when just like
• 49:13
  you love. It and I do love it when you do
• 49:14
  that stuff too because yeah, I keep your family updated on
• 49:17
  your. Life you do?
• 49:18
  Yeah. By making those tags and posts.
• 49:21
  You do, yeah. So Jamie shows up and he's just,
• 49:28
  you know, wanting to say hi. He has brought some wine, and
• 49:31
  they're all eating and drinking. And they discuss the hike
• 49:35
  mishap. And they talk about how it looks
• 49:36
  like there's like, pieces of an old Chapel in there.
• 49:39
  He goes, oh, yeah, I know there used to be a church out there.
• 49:42
  It collapsed. The congregation's mostly gone.
• 49:44
  And I'm like, what happened? He goes mass suicide.
• 49:46
  And they're like, he's like, no, I don't.
• 49:48
  I don't know, actually. And then he says that the food's
• 49:52
  really good. And Millie is like, oh, it's all
• 49:56
  Tim. He does all the cooking.
• 49:58
  He's the reason I don't cook. And he's like, what?
• 50:00
  You wouldn't learn to cook if I didn't cook for you because,
• 50:02
  well, you're I'm the reason you don't drive.
• 50:04
  And this is where what we were talking about, where it starts
• 50:07
  getting like really tense because they're trying to have
• 50:10
  it as a normal conversation, but really it's a fight in front of
• 50:13
  a third party. It's start.
• 50:15
  It's like masked. By I like playful banter at
• 50:17
  first but then it just gets too real and then it's like a
• 50:20
  straight up fight in front of Jamie.
• 50:22
  It becomes so fucking awkward. And so Jamie leaves and.
• 50:26
  Tim accuses him of being a little bit flirty with her and
• 50:29
  maybe her being a little bit flirty back, but it's all this
• 50:32
  is actual joking. And then they kiss and their
• 50:35
  lips get sucked together and that ruins the mood.
• 50:38
  Yeah, yeah, she. Thinks that he's like biting her
• 50:40
  or something and then in bed that.
• 50:43
  Night Millie wakes up cuz she's like, you're on my hair,
• 50:46
  relatable. You're on my hair, please get
• 50:48
  off my hair. And then she turns on the light
• 50:50
  and he's like swallowing a huge chunk of her hair.
• 50:55
  Yeah, it's like this. Is like one of the things, like,
• 50:57
  is this another one of the nightmares?
• 50:58
  But no, like this time he's actually just got all that hair
• 51:01
  in his mouth and he's struggling to pull it out.
• 51:04
  Honestly, if I woke up one day. And Cordelia was trying to eat
• 51:08
  my hair. I wouldn't be.
• 51:09
  Shocked. I wouldn't be shocked about
• 51:11
  that. Either she's going through a
• 51:12
  big. Hair thing right now, yeah,
• 51:14
  she's trying to eat my hair, my white.
• 51:15
  Hairs right? Yeah.
• 51:16
  She don't like it. She doesn't.
• 51:19
  Yeah, so they're. Just yeah, it's the next
• 51:23
  morning. He's it's time for him to go to
• 51:26
  the town. She's like you, seems sick.
• 51:28
  I. Don't think you should go.
• 51:30
  And he's like, please, I just need to go.
• 51:31
  Please just drop me off. And so they get to the train
• 51:34
  station, and she's like, you know, good luck.
• 51:37
  I'd drive you all the way if I could.
• 51:39
  And he's just kind of being a little standoffish.
• 51:42
  And she's like, all right, well, feel free to stay the night over
• 51:45
  there. And he's like, what?
• 51:46
  Don't you want me to come home? And she goes, no, that's not
• 51:48
  what I'm saying. I'm just, you know, catch up
• 51:50
  with everybody. Yeah, that might help.
• 51:52
  Yeah, help. You feel better.
• 51:53
  So you ate my hair last night. I ate.
• 51:55
  And I need a break too. Like, she's like, we just maybe
• 51:58
  some distance would be good for us right now.
• 52:00
  Yeah. So she leaves him and he's just
• 52:03
  kind of like, really panics. Yeah.
• 52:05
  And I think they. Do a real good job with these
• 52:08
  moments, too, because he's just sitting there at the train
• 52:10
  station and I feel like I can feel his sickness whenever he is
• 52:15
  sitting like that. And you can tell, like, the way
• 52:17
  that the screen is warping and stuff.
• 52:19
  Like, you can tell, oh, this isn't like, almost like an
• 52:21
  anxiety attack, but also like, you could tell Stomach's
• 52:25
  probably getting real fucky right now, too.
• 52:27
  Yeah. And.
• 52:29
  You know, it's just we we stop. As the train pulls up in front
• 52:32
  of him, Millie sends her class to PE.
• 52:35
  Anna. That's her name.
• 52:37
  There it is. OK.
• 52:38
  She's the one drawing the picture of the Thing dog.
• 52:41
  And Millie's horrified, but not horrified enough because she
• 52:46
  gets on a FaceTime with Kath. Yeah.
• 52:49
  Yeah. And, like, talking about all the
• 52:51
  stuff with Tim there. And she's like, well, look, I'll
• 52:53
  come up there if you need me to. And she's like, no, no.
• 52:55
  She's like, it's OK. My parents are coming up on
• 52:57
  time. Sunday, like, he's a nice
• 52:58
  person. He.
• 52:59
  You know, on our first date, I told him that I love Spice
• 53:02
  Girls, and I didn't realize he was this music sob.
• 53:04
  And then on our second date, he'd bought me Spice on vinyl.
• 53:07
  Yeah. And as they're having this whole
• 53:10
  conversation, she looks up and he's in the playground.
• 53:12
  Yeah. And he looks like the type of.
• 53:14
  Person that you don't want to see on an elementary school
• 53:15
  playground, he's going to go. On a list if he like, gets
• 53:20
  caught up there. And so she goes.
• 53:22
  Down there. And she quickly, like, ushers
• 53:24
  him into the bathroom and he's like, I need you.
• 53:27
  And they haven't had sex for a while and Billy's been, like,
• 53:29
  begging for it. And so they do it right there.
• 53:33
  And like, we have the sounds muted, but it's pretty clear
• 53:36
  they're being loud. Yeah.
• 53:38
  I mean, just like a lot of. Moaning and stuff like that and
• 53:41
  yeah, it's like a yeah. And then everything about that,
• 53:45
  I'm just like. It's it's horrifying.
• 53:47
  This doesn't need to be happening in a children's
• 53:49
  bathroom. It's so bad.
• 53:51
  Yeah, well, I don't. Even think they realize it was a
• 53:53
  children's bathroom. I think they just went.
• 53:55
  Millie absolutely knows it's a. Children's bathroom.
• 53:57
  She works at the school. Yeah.
• 53:58
  Maybe. Yeah.
• 53:59
  What's? Her early 2nd day, like you know
• 54:02
  that I think she knows. And she's, you know, she
• 54:06
  realizes that when those feet run away, that another adult's
• 54:09
  gonna be coming in at some point.
• 54:10
  That's the feet of. Somebody saying I'm telling and
• 54:13
  she like this is. Millie's thing, like, she
• 54:15
  doesn't have fear to do things. She's like, all right, this the
• 54:18
  thing that needs to be done, RIP off the Band-Aid.
• 54:20
  I am not a RIP off the Band-Aid person.
• 54:23
  Yeah, like. 'Cause he's trying to like pull
• 54:26
  out, can't pull out. And she just pushes, She puts
• 54:29
  her hands over, she goes. I'm so sorry.
• 54:32
  Yeah, and it. Hurts both of.
• 54:34
  Them I don't. Know what he.
• 54:38
  Felt like but I have a pretty good idea of what she felt like
• 54:42
  yeah. So it.
• 54:44
  It's bad. And at that point, Jamie comes
• 54:47
  in with the small child that has just had a terrible day.
• 54:51
  Yeah, Tim puts his feet up on the.
• 54:53
  Commode so they can't see his feet there.
• 54:55
  Yeah. And And she comes out.
• 54:57
  She doesn't really know what to say because she's certain that
• 55:00
  she is going to be fired and put on a sex registration list.
• 55:06
  Yeah, but. Just because of the nature of
• 55:08
  what happened there, Jamie gets the idea that it's her period
• 55:12
  that started suddenly or something instead bleeding and.
• 55:16
  He's like, oh, just, you know, next time just make sure that
• 55:19
  you you get to the staff member. Yeah, but as he's walking.
• 55:21
  Away he still looks, and he sees Tim's feet come down from the
• 55:25
  commode real quick, and Millie sees that he saw so, so they
• 55:31
  get. Back to the house and she is
• 55:33
  mad. She's like, I've given you all
• 55:36
  all the space to take all of these risks and then not pay
• 55:39
  off. I've let you follow your dreams.
• 55:40
  I want a chance to follow my dreams.
• 55:42
  And like this could have just ruined everything.
• 55:46
  And she's like, I'm going to go to Jamies house and clean up
• 55:48
  your mess. And he's like what am I supposed
• 55:50
  to do? And she's like I don't care.
• 55:53
  She is mad and over him at this point.
• 55:56
  She goes hard with this A. Little bit too hard because
• 55:58
  she's like, I'm starting to feel like your mom.
• 56:00
  He's like, what does that mean? He's like like I'm sitting next
• 56:03
  to something that's already dead like Oh my God, he just revealed
• 56:07
  that to you. He.
• 56:07
  Just revealed that trauma to you.
• 56:09
  That's that's a low blow, yeah. So.
• 56:12
  She walks over. To Jamie's and he invites her
• 56:15
  in. She apologizes and he plays
• 56:17
  dumb. Yeah, he's like, it's fine,
• 56:18
  like. I I get it.
• 56:20
  It's, you know, women stuff, it's fine.
• 56:23
  And then he's like, you seem upset.
• 56:24
  What's wrong? And she's like, oh, I just had a
• 56:26
  fight. He was here, let me, let me get
• 56:27
  you some water. And this is sneaky, sneaky
• 56:30
  because she didn't drink the water in The Cave.
• 56:33
  So this is he has given her that water.
• 56:36
  It's never explicitly said, but that's meant to be the
• 56:39
  implication. Yeah for sure.
• 56:40
  Cuz it all starts for her. After this moment here, yes.
• 56:43
  And she? Is looking around, she sees a
• 56:45
  picture of a couple and it really just looks like you took
• 56:48
  Jamie and split him in half into two different men.
• 56:51
  Yeah, yeah. And.
• 56:53
  So you know. They just kind of, they kind of
• 56:55
  talk about like togetherness and harmony versus complacency.
• 57:00
  And this is where I'm also noticing for the first time that
• 57:03
  Jamie's wearing two wedding rings.
• 57:05
  Oh my God, Adam. Made that connection, yeah and
• 57:09
  so. She asks about his partner and
• 57:11
  he was like, she is assuming that he's dead, you know,
• 57:16
  because it's just Jamie in the house.
• 57:18
  And he was like, you know, we, we did split up at one point and
• 57:21
  I realized that freedom wasn't what I thought it was going to
• 57:25
  be. I was me because of him.
• 57:27
  And he was like, I missed everything, even like our
• 57:30
  fights. And then he's like, you know
• 57:33
  what? I haven't had an excuse to watch
• 57:34
  my wedding tape in a while. And then that's when Melisi's
• 57:38
  Tim outside and she has to, like, run out, which is probably
• 57:41
  good because, you know, we don't get the cult reveal stuff just
• 57:44
  yet. Yeah, true.
• 57:45
  Yeah. But.
• 57:45
  I also just like that I, I like these shots of Tim just being
• 57:49
  out there kind of creeping in front of yards of people's
• 57:52
  places all the time. You're such a creep.
• 57:53
  It's so. Funny, yeah.
• 57:57
  So Tim is. Back at the house that night and
• 57:59
  he's looking at pissed messages on his computer from the from
• 58:04
  the band members. And then he looks at the geotag
• 58:08
  of Carrie and Simon's photo and realizes that it's right near
• 58:12
  their house. And if you pay attention, he's
• 58:14
  got a tab open. And the other tab is a Google
• 58:17
  search of cave water sickness. Oh, really?
• 58:20
  Yeah. Oh, I hadn't noticed that
• 58:22
  before. Interesting.
• 58:23
  Good catch, yeah? So he realizes that like,
• 58:27
  something's in that cave, it's going to it's going to get us
• 58:32
  like, answers. We got to go figure this out.
• 58:34
  Except he doesn't have a chance to do anything because they lose
• 58:36
  Internet. And then Millie slams on the
• 58:39
  door to this study, and he opens it up and it's like she's
• 58:42
  seizing. And he slaps her wake.
• 58:45
  And we cut to them sitting at the kitchen table.
• 58:47
  And she doesn't buy his theory. She's like, you should probably
• 58:50
  sleep in the spare room. He's like, good idea.
• 58:52
  We need to get as much distance between us as possible.
• 58:55
  I'll go to The Cave first thing in the morning.
• 58:57
  She goes, listen, my parents are coming on Sunday.
• 58:59
  I don't think you should be here.
• 59:00
  He's also like, spitballing. Theories here and he's he says
• 59:03
  that it takes over when the mind is weak so basically whenever
• 59:07
  they fall asleep or they're tired, that's when the whole
• 59:10
  thing kicks in at its hardest it's funny how right he is
• 59:13
  about. Everything.
• 59:14
  He's so well, he's he's. Experiencing it.
• 59:16
  Also another note, when he was looking at the pictures he
• 59:19
  noticed that the missing couple had that picture on their
• 59:22
  Facebook. It had the bell with the marking
• 59:24
  on it too, so they were in that area for sure.
• 59:26
  Yep, and he was. Like, yeah, the first thing in
• 59:29
  the morning, I had to go check out The Cave.
• 59:30
  And she was like, I I don't want you here.
• 59:34
  I don't, I don't want you. Yeah.
• 59:37
  And then we got one of those across the hall.
• 59:40
  I was like, I love you. And she says I know.
• 59:42
  No, she doesn't even say she. Doesn't even carry Fisher in.
• 59:44
  She just goes, OK, Yeah, yeah. Oh my.
• 59:46
  God, harsh. All right, so suddenly awake in
• 59:50
  the middle of the hall, he's being just.
• 59:53
  He's just dragging through the hall closer to her door, and
• 59:56
  he's trying to stop himself and Allison Brie gets to.
• 59:59
  Do a lot of contortionism in this movie.
• 1:00:01
  I'm sure a lot of her stuff is shot in reverse.
• 1:00:04
  Probably. Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  It's. Pretty impressive the how she's
• 1:00:07
  able to contort her body during this scene because she starts
• 1:00:10
  off kind of doing the The Exorcist thing upside down at
• 1:00:13
  the door and yeah, she's flipping through.
• 1:00:16
  She's finding out first in what the fuck is happening and he's
• 1:00:19
  telling her, look, we got to take the muscle relaxants
• 1:00:22
  because that's the only way. Yeah, because their their hands.
• 1:00:24
  Join in the hall and they just kind of go into each other and.
• 1:00:29
  Then he was like. The meds, the muscle relaxers,
• 1:00:32
  they'll get us and she goes the Valium, he goes, it's called
• 1:00:34
  diazepam now. And so they get to the drawer,
• 1:00:39
  she pulls it out and she's like fucking child lock.
• 1:00:41
  He's like, no, here, we'll do this together.
• 1:00:43
  They're working together. They're team working out.
• 1:00:45
  And they like a bunch of them pour out and she's like, how
• 1:00:47
  many should we take? Because just just take a ball.
• 1:00:50
  Like it'll get into our system faster if we snort and they just
• 1:00:52
  start snorting. Them up too.
• 1:00:54
  I can't believe they did an overdose here.
• 1:00:56
  This I think it's a don't move to like keep them that way you
• 1:00:59
  can like prolong. This feels like a vignette in.
• 1:01:02
  Requiem for a dream? Yeah, I'm surprised we didn't
• 1:01:04
  get it like the. Eyes die waiting, Yeah, and.
• 1:01:08
  They start to pass out and we come to Tim comes to, he's being
• 1:01:13
  taped to a chair and it's a go guide.
• 1:01:16
  I'm sorry, I thought I was going to have.
• 1:01:17
  More time. Yeah.
• 1:01:18
  He's like, what? And she goes listen, listen.
• 1:01:20
  The muscle relaxers mostly worked.
• 1:01:22
  We're still a little bit attached.
• 1:01:24
  We got to take care of this before, you know, they start
• 1:01:27
  working together again. And he was like, you're
• 1:01:30
  right-handed, which means she's going to be doing this power
• 1:01:33
  assault with the left hand. And she's like, listen, drink
• 1:01:35
  the whiskey for pain. And he starts to drink it.
• 1:01:38
  And she goes, oh, Nope, no more whiskey for you.
• 1:01:40
  I'm feeling that too. And he's like, cool, So now
• 1:01:43
  you're working with your left hand and you're drunk.
• 1:01:45
  Yep. And she's like, listen, it'll be
• 1:01:47
  fine. It'll be we've got a first hand
• 1:01:48
  kit, all saw us apart and then we'll we'll get bandaged up
• 1:01:52
  right away and she goes also really sorry I didn't believe
• 1:01:55
  you before. Clearly you were correct about
• 1:01:57
  all of this. Yeah, and he's against this.
• 1:01:58
  Until he sees that their arms are starting to wiggle a little
• 1:02:02
  bit more. So the medicine is wearing off.
• 1:02:04
  And if they don't do this now, they're going to get further
• 1:02:06
  together. And then we cut to them.
• 1:02:09
  Sitting on all the ends of the kitchen floor, bandaged up.
• 1:02:11
  And she's like, all right, so we're going to go to the
• 1:02:14
  hospital. And he goes, no, no, no, we need
• 1:02:15
  to go check The Cave. We need answers.
• 1:02:17
  And she's like, we've got to go to the hospital.
• 1:02:21
  I just sawed our arms apart. You need to sit in the trunk.
• 1:02:24
  Stay as far away from me as possible.
• 1:02:26
  Oh, fuck. I don't have my keys.
• 1:02:27
  She's like, I'm going to go to Jamie's house to get my keys.
• 1:02:30
  Don't do anything stupid. And he goes, I won't, I won't.
• 1:02:33
  Immediately. He runs for rope in a
• 1:02:34
  flashlight. Yep.
• 1:02:36
  And. So.
• 1:02:39
  We'll we'll talk about Millie and Jamie and then we'll talk
• 1:02:41
  about Tim in The Cave. OK, so Millie gets over to
• 1:02:45
  Jamie's house. He's not answering the door, but
• 1:02:46
  we see he's got a doorbell. And it's not like a Ding Dong
• 1:02:49
  doorbell. It's a ring, a Ding Ding
• 1:02:50
  doorbell, a ring a Ding Ding, if you will.
• 1:02:54
  But it's one of those bells that we've seen on the trails.
• 1:02:58
  Mark of the Colt. She comes into the house, she's
• 1:03:01
  looking around. No, Jamie, she's trying to find
• 1:03:04
  the key is she hears a video playing in another room and she
• 1:03:08
  walks in and it's a wedding video of I, I don't know their
• 1:03:12
  individual names, but it's the wedding video of Jamie.
• 1:03:15
  And we see, you know, them get married and it's great and
• 1:03:18
  they're happy. But then we see them all like
• 1:03:20
  the whole church when it was still above ground.
• 1:03:24
  They've got an opening down into The Cave with the well.
• 1:03:26
  They all go in there. They get like baptized in the
• 1:03:29
  well. And then the priest has them cut
• 1:03:32
  each other's wrists with their wedding bands and lay next to
• 1:03:37
  each other. And then Jamie is behind her,
• 1:03:39
  like, he just, like, pops up out of the shadows.
• 1:03:41
  That was a really cool moment there.
• 1:03:42
  Cuz he's out of like, he just pops up there out of focus.
• 1:03:46
  Yeah. And it's really creepy.
• 1:03:49
  And he's in like a rope. He's in his cult robe now.
• 1:03:51
  Yeah, well. He's like, you know, he might be
• 1:03:54
  the only member of the congregation left him and maybe
• 1:03:56
  the doctor. Well, I was reading something
• 1:03:58
  online. Speculating that he is like a
• 1:04:01
  combination of several people at this point.
• 1:04:04
  Interesting. Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  Because apparently. Like he says.
• 1:04:06
  Like I'm the neighborhood. Oh no, I just.
• 1:04:09
  Read that like as like they're out in a rural area.
• 1:04:12
  And that's what I thought too. Like a wink and.
• 1:04:14
  A nod to him. Being more than one person.
• 1:04:16
  That's what I thought too, but. You know, that's just the
• 1:04:18
  speculation I've seen online from some people.
• 1:04:22
  He. He's just saying, you know, this
• 1:04:23
  is the hardest part. This is where you have to push
• 1:04:26
  through. And trust me, you're already at
• 1:04:28
  this point. The alternative is pretty bad.
• 1:04:31
  And he uses his rings to cut her the same way.
• 1:04:34
  Yeah, he just grabs. Her forearm and just he says
• 1:04:39
  it's easier. If you have a wound, yeah.
• 1:04:42
  And also you'll feel. Great from this right here like
• 1:04:44
  you're going to be in such a good shape after that and she.
• 1:04:50
  She slaps him and he, like, kind of slips apart a little bit.
• 1:04:55
  I assume he merges back together at some point.
• 1:04:57
  I it's weird. Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  We we don't ever get clarification on Jamie's ending,
• 1:05:02
  but we cut down to Tim. Tim is like exploring more of
• 1:05:06
  these Chapel pieces because we're getting this intercut with
• 1:05:09
  like, Jamie explaining things too.
• 1:05:10
  Yeah, he sees a mural from. The church that she is also
• 1:05:13
  seeing in the video that's being played.
• 1:05:15
  Yeah, it's it's. You know, going back to, like,
• 1:05:18
  the story by Plato about, you know, human beings used to have
• 1:05:24
  four legs and four arms, and Zeus was jealous, so he cut them
• 1:05:27
  in half. And so you have to spend your
• 1:05:29
  life searching for your better half.
• 1:05:30
  And that's what the mural is depicting.
• 1:05:33
  And he is getting stuck to The Cave because this cave is sticky
• 1:05:37
  everywhere and terrible. And then a creature comes out
• 1:05:41
  and it is Carrie and Simon. And this is what the alternative
• 1:05:45
  is because it appears as though Carrie has killed Simon.
• 1:05:49
  Yeah. And mid transformation.
• 1:05:51
  Mid. Transformation, so we.
• 1:05:52
  Don't know the circumstances, we don't know if it's an accident,
• 1:05:54
  we don't know if it was like her trying to get him to like we
• 1:05:57
  don't know. All we know is that if one of
• 1:06:00
  you is dead and one of you is alive, the the merge stops and
• 1:06:04
  you're miserable and you beg from help from cave dwelling
• 1:06:07
  strangers. I feel so bad for.
• 1:06:09
  Her, I'm guessing at this point, because she's screaming for help
• 1:06:12
  and what Tim does is cut off her fingers and run.
• 1:06:15
  So not only is she in that shape, but she now has no
• 1:06:18
  fingers and she's in that shape. Yeah.
• 1:06:21
  And. In a lot of.
• 1:06:22
  Pain. A lot more pain, probably.
• 1:06:25
  Yeah. Feel really bad for her.
• 1:06:27
  Just like he could have just killed her.
• 1:06:28
  But I I would have done the same.
• 1:06:29
  I would have freaked the fuck out and ran out of there.
• 1:06:32
  So Millie and Tim run back. Back.
• 1:06:34
  Run both run back to the house, and they both have answers.
• 1:06:37
  They've both figured out what's going on, and Tim's like, I know
• 1:06:40
  what we need to do. I should have done this a long
• 1:06:42
  time ago. And he proposes to Millie.
• 1:06:44
  That's great. I like her.
• 1:06:47
  Reaction. She's like, you got to be
• 1:06:49
  shitting me and. Then he stands up and he says,
• 1:06:52
  look away. And she goes, what?
• 1:06:53
  And he goes, I don't want you to see this because he's going to
• 1:06:55
  kill himself because he said this is the only way.
• 1:06:57
  Like, you know, we have to, one of us has to die before we start
• 1:07:01
  merging again. And she goes, you don't need to
• 1:07:02
  do that. And then we see like, she's
• 1:07:04
  bleeding really badly from that cut on her forearm and she
• 1:07:07
  collapses and she collapses. And he's.
• 1:07:09
  Saying no, no, no, please stay with me, please stay with me.
• 1:07:13
  Cut 2 him carrying her into the house.
• 1:07:16
  She's a lot less pale now. And she's like, what, how, why,
• 1:07:20
  where, when, who? And he's like, very good.
• 1:07:23
  Those are the five WS of journalism.
• 1:07:26
  And also my hand is inside of your arm.
• 1:07:29
  Yeah, that's the only way to stop the bleeding and.
• 1:07:31
  Give her the blood that she needed and she's like, do you?
• 1:07:34
  Do we want to do this? And she's like, yeah.
• 1:07:36
  And he goes right first. I always pictured this would be
• 1:07:39
  our first dance song, and I think that's a really sweet
• 1:07:42
  little throwaway line. But the fact that he's thought
• 1:07:45
  about stuff like that. Yeah, it just goes to show it
• 1:07:49
  was like they were in like a complicated situation.
• 1:07:52
  Yeah. And I think, you know, they care
• 1:07:54
  for each other in this moment and they're they're accepting
• 1:07:56
  that, hey, we're going to be together now.
• 1:07:58
  This is our way of being together.
• 1:07:59
  And we get a Really. Horrifying transformation
• 1:08:02
  sequence of them just merging into each other and their body
• 1:08:06
  parts writhing inside of each other.
• 1:08:07
  I like that they. Had the thought to take their
• 1:08:10
  quotes off because I wonder. Actually I'm curious what would
• 1:08:13
  that have been like if they tried to merge the quotes to I?
• 1:08:17
  Assume that the magic finds its way around it.
• 1:08:20
  Yeah, probably. Millie's.
• 1:08:23
  Parents show up for lunch, they ring a Ding Ding bell because
• 1:08:27
  they now have the bell as well, and Tilly opens up the door.
• 1:08:34
  I say, hey guys, I. Wanted the rest of this.
• 1:08:37
  Lunch. I wanted to know how do you
• 1:08:39
  explain that? Like why I yeah, I'm, I'm very
• 1:08:44
  curious how that goes, Charlie. We adopted our.
• 1:08:46
  Niece. And that's how the movie ends.
• 1:08:50
  Yep. That's how it ends.
• 1:08:52
  Yep, still a 9 1/2. I think this is an excellent
• 1:08:55
  movie. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:08:55
  It's still, it's still up. There for me too.
• 1:08:58
  It just it sets out and does what it what it tries to do so
• 1:09:02
  well now, Talia. I was very into this movie.
• 1:09:07
  Yeah, at the beginning, cuz the dogs were barking, She was
• 1:09:09
  barking back. It was a good time for her.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah. However, then the dogs die, so
• 1:09:13
  that's an automatic point deduction.
• 1:09:17
  She left with 30 seconds left in the movie.
• 1:09:21
  She was like, I'm done with this bullshit, you guys, and we're
• 1:09:25
  like, no, Talia, you're going to miss Tilly.
• 1:09:27
  And she's like, put me on the bed, peasants.
• 1:09:31
  And we did. So she never actually saw the
• 1:09:33
  ending. She was fucking over it.
• 1:09:34
  She was like, first the dogs and now that are we going to shoot
• 1:09:36
  them too? Probably.
• 1:09:38
  Is that what's going to happen? I can't.
• 1:09:39
  I can't watch this so. I think Talia will give this a.
• 1:09:42
  Seven, I think. I think it just pissed her off.
• 1:09:44
  Yeah. Who's always Ultimate Warrior?
• 1:09:50
  I think it's. The mean teacher, Carol.
• 1:09:55
  Yeah. I was like, that's.
• 1:09:56
  Mine it's. Mine I could see.
• 1:09:58
  That Cordelia watched the entire movie on my legs.
• 1:10:03
  She she had a hoot. Yeah, she had.
• 1:10:04
  A hoot this time, right? A hoot for her for sure.
• 1:10:07
  All right, who'd you relate? To oh, I related to him.
• 1:10:11
  Just a lot of his like, you know, like his whole, like, I
• 1:10:16
  wish I could be what both of us need me to be like.
• 1:10:19
  I've said that more times than I care to count.
• 1:10:21
  So I like, I get it. Yeah.
• 1:10:24
  This is a hard one because. Like, there are a lot.
• 1:10:26
  I relate to both Tim and Millie in a lot of ways.
• 1:10:29
  So I'm going to say I relate to Tilly.
• 1:10:32
  There you go. Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  OK, tagline. All right, let's do this.
• 1:10:40
  Is there a weird from that Spice Girls thing that we could do for
• 1:10:43
  this right here I feel like. That'd be the perfect
• 1:10:48
  opportunity. Not let's not pull.
• 1:10:50
  It from to become one. Let's just just make the tagline
• 1:10:54
  spice up your life. Yeah, that's great.
• 1:10:57
  Spice up your life. I like that a lot.
• 1:10:59
  Yay. Cool.
• 1:11:00
  All right, so we're knocking these things out.
• 1:11:02
  We are so. What would Dom do?
• 1:11:05
  What would Dom do? Oh man, I think.
• 1:11:11
  Dom would find a. Way like him and Letty could
• 1:11:15
  just like, drive fast enough to not get attached?
• 1:11:19
  I think so, yeah. Also, Don doesn't need water to
• 1:11:23
  survive so he would never have to drink the water in the 1st
• 1:11:27
  place. Yeah, no, he.
• 1:11:29
  Survives purely on Nos photosynthesis.
• 1:11:31
  Yeah, Nos and photosynthesis. I was just like.
• 1:11:36
  I'm not picturing like Nos, I'm picturing the inner teacher but
• 1:11:40
  but. Jamie is welcomed into the
• 1:11:43
  family. He's like, he's like, I don't
• 1:11:46
  like that you tried to trick us into this happening, but you
• 1:11:50
  seem like a good people person, so somebody from the team gets
• 1:11:54
  merged. Though I'm going to say Brian
• 1:11:56
  and no, no, no, no. It's Tejan Roman.
• 1:12:00
  Tejan Roman. Because.
• 1:12:02
  Because they're always arguing. Over What's your face, the tech
• 1:12:07
  lady Ramsey? Ramsey yeah, that way they're.
• 1:12:11
  Merged and then they're with Ramsey.
• 1:12:13
  Perfect that love this. Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  This all works right here and our drink sequel we already.
• 1:12:16
  Discussed the strangers, the strangers, but so did the
• 1:12:20
  strangers. Come to get Tilly or do they
• 1:12:23
  come and get Dave and or Tim and Millie?
• 1:12:28
  Maybe it's just like a new couple that is going to be
• 1:12:33
  inducted by Jamie and Tilly, OK. And they're.
• 1:12:37
  Having their own relationship issues, as we see, is important
• 1:12:40
  to both of these movies. Yes.
• 1:12:42
  Yeah, OK. I like.
• 1:12:43
  That yeah, that works for me. All right, time for reviews.
• 1:12:49
  Time for reviews. Time for reviews.
• 1:12:52
  OK, so I pulled this one from IMDb here it's a -1 and it's a 3
• 1:12:58
  out of 10 titled a work colleague of mine described
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  together as Cronenberg White. I think that Cronenberg shy is
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  more at Damn that's. Brutal, but pretty good.
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  Yeah, I'm. Gonna give him props here.
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  Dave Franco and Allison Brie play long term couple Tim and
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  Millie, whose relationship has hit a sticky patch.
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  The couple moved to a Oh wow, this is just kind of a synopsis
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  here. Director Michael Shanks
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  commentary about the nature of relationships is extremely
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  muddled. What exactly is the film trying
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  to say about how couples interact, if indeed it is a
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  trying, indeed if it is trying to say anything meaningful at
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  all? Are Tim and Millie meant for
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  each other or should they have parted ways long ago?
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  The film's stance is uncertain. There's definitely something
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  interesting to be said about the codependent nature of a human
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  couple, but this film doesn't say it.
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  Instead, having established its basic premise, the film just
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  trundles along repetitively until it's inevitable shocking
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  finale which feels like a lame attempt to match the craziness
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  of the substances blood drenched climax.
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  It comes out. It comes nowhere near The film
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  boasts 1 memorable scene in which Tim and Millie become
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  stuck together post coitus, with a surprising shot of Tim's
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  members stretching as he tries to pull himself loose.
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  A cock shot in a 15 certificate. It's definitely the wildest
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  moment in a film that needed a lot more of that kind of
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  craziness to succeed, to be fair, to be fair.
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  We don't see the head or the balls.
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  That's true. That's true.
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  Three and a. Half out of 10, rounded down to
• 1:14:31
  three for the unnecessary humor that jars with the horror and
• 1:14:34
  for the cheesy, predictable use of Spice Girls Hit 2.
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  Become one. Man, I just agree on all counts.
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  Yeah, this. Person dislikes all the things
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  I. Like about this movie?
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  Yeah. And and you know what?
• 1:14:45
  I could see how this would be a movie that's not for everyone.
• 1:14:48
  It's heavy, it's hard, it's uncomfortable, and it's kind of
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  a drama. It's gross.
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  Yeah. And yeah.
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  If you've seen body horror in other movies that you prefer,
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  like So now it's just hard to get over those preferences.
• 1:15:03
  Yeah, I get it. I mean, this movie, I don't
• 1:15:07
  know, it just hits a lot of things that it just sells like a
• 1:15:11
  very personal story and I, I just find it very interesting to
• 1:15:17
  watch. I, I like the characters here.
• 1:15:18
  I thought that they had great chemistry together and just,
• 1:15:22
  yeah, I, I, it's a relationship horror and it's a body horror
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  movie and it's just, there's so much going wrong in this movie
• 1:15:29
  and it's tense and it's UN it makes you feel uneasy.
• 1:15:33
  And I don't know, I, it works for me, but OK, let's see what
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  everybody else thinks. Over to listener reviews so we
• 1:15:42
  got one from Tucker who says wanted to like this one but it
• 1:15:46
  was kind of toothless didn't go far enough with the body horror
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  and the relationship could have been delved into so much more
• 1:15:52
  and it was cool at least, but still I wanted more. 5 1/2 out
• 1:15:55
  of 10. OK, All right.
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  Yeah, I guess like the. The drama of it takes over more
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  than the body horror of it. It does, yeah.
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  Yeah, it has a lot of like just weird stuff going throughout,
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  like the I guess they didn't go hard enough into like they
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  didn't have a whole lot of moments of them kind of near
• 1:16:17
  joining. Like they have that one in the
• 1:16:19
  bathroom and like their legs and lips kind of like get stuck
• 1:16:22
  occasionally in the hair moment. But I guess they could have done
• 1:16:25
  so much more with the premise if they wanted to toy around with
• 1:16:27
  it. A lot of really gross stuff
• 1:16:28
  when. They did the final merge like
• 1:16:30
  the eyelashes and then eyeballs. That was I could live without
• 1:16:33
  ever seeing that again. That that's true, man.
• 1:16:36
  That. Eye stuff is brutal for me to
• 1:16:37
  watch. Yeah, OK cool.
• 1:16:40
  OK, so that. Finishes us up with together.
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  Oops and next week we are doing our Patreon voted episode and
• 1:16:49
  the vote was fall Yeah, which I'm excited about.
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  It is actually currently streaming on Netflix, which is
• 1:16:56
  good because we won't have to rent it.
• 1:16:58
  But if you do need to rent it, it's available on YouTube,
• 1:17:00
  Google TV, Apple TV, or Fandango at home.
• 1:17:03
  This is one of my favorite subgenres, which is single
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  location. So it and it's got a few people
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  would really like it. So yeah, I'm excited to discuss
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  it. So be ready for that.
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