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Patriots Unfiltered 11/1: Takeaways from Win over Jets, Mac Jones' Performance in Year 2 · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
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  Speaker 1: original poet, Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. We got a little
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  Speaker 1: insight into the psyche of Bill today, did we. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I always like when you explain things to me. There
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  Speaker 1: was a moment. How have you guys been managing about you? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Mike's still under the weather. He's on the injury report.
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  Speaker 1: Will be able to rifle through picks now because he
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  Speaker 1: takes a little time sometimes, maybe you should take a
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  Speaker 1: little more time. Oh, he actually hang out with Tony
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  Speaker 1: Robinson Robbins, but she's met this week. I'm just kidding
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  Speaker 1: about this. I thought he just had like this intervention coming. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the joke, the actual joking. They were all quiet.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jacksonville. I will not bet on
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  Speaker 1: a consecuted unterback. Oh, if somebody wants to give me
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  Speaker 1: a third round for win, I'll do it. Well, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I would do that. This is Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday, after
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  Speaker 1: another win, the fourth of the season for the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: to get them back to five hundred. So happy days
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  Speaker 1: are here again. We're gonna talk about the game. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people called it not a loss instead of
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  Speaker 1: a win, but we'll talk about that. I think any
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  Speaker 1: road win in the NFL is a good win. But um,
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  Speaker 1: we'll go over that. We'll go over the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the Colts have just fired their offensive coordinator, uh, the
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  Speaker 1: week before the Patriots game, so they fear us. That's right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, whatever else we want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff going around. Trade deadline, trade deadline.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anything's gonna come with that, but we'll
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  Speaker 1: see you information. I just you know, as you read
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  Speaker 1: my notes, no we we'd be getting rumbled. You didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you didn't read my notes. Intriguing title there, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: I like that. I like the titles. Is that you
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  Speaker 1: must have just posted that right, yeah this morning? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't see it. I didn't get the alert.
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  Speaker 1: Well I was a little. But basically, my my premise
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  Speaker 1: is just sit it out. You're a middling team. You
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  Speaker 1: don't need to add, you don't need to sell off
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  Speaker 1: pieces like because you don't really have anything. You know,
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  Speaker 1: It's not like you have a Roquan Smith that might
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  Speaker 1: get you a second round pick that you want to
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  Speaker 1: move on from, right, right, So I think the players
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  Speaker 1: that you have that are tradeable, um, aren't necessarily You're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna Stevens, right, yeah, I mean those are the
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  Speaker 1: guy Like we talk about all the receivers, and the
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  Speaker 1: only one I think that would get you anything on
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  Speaker 1: the open market is Tae Kwon Thornton. And you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to trade him, right, No, I wouldn't say never,
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  Speaker 1: but you probably want to hold on to him, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And as much as I think you're right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and you need tackles, isay whin. I wouldn't be opposed
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  Speaker 1: to being like goodbye, Like I just I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he's should not get it. But you know, controvutor to
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  Speaker 1: Freds whatever, Yeah, contributor to Fred's third round, you know
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  Speaker 1: he was. There were two linement worse than him that
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  Speaker 1: played Sunday, just you know, three, three of them holding
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  Speaker 1: hands together. Yeah, we're gonna get into that. Red got
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  Speaker 1: a peak at his ceiling, which wasn't very high. The
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  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guys not so much. Do you think it?
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't do you think there was anything at all
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  Speaker 1: of them trying to put that on display at all
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  Speaker 1: at all or just they had to because Cole Strange
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  Speaker 1: was absolutely could have been part of it. By Cole
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  Speaker 1: Strange really struggled in the game, so I think they
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  Speaker 1: went with what they felt were their five best players, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know at one point, and Cannon was really really
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  Speaker 1: struggling in this game too, So um, I think the
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  Speaker 1: line as a whole did not play. Yeah, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I know, it doesn't it didn't
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  Speaker 1: hear on when used name, Well, no, he played well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean again, I'm not amos Alonzo Stagg I don't
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  Speaker 1: pretend to be. But I saw watching replays him consistently
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  Speaker 1: blocking his blocking somebody, and I didn't see that from
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  Speaker 1: those other three guys. I didn't see Trent Brown getting
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  Speaker 1: beat neither those other three were glaring. I mean, Isaiah Win,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was the first play he came in
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  Speaker 1: at right tackle, roller skates right back into Mac Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's as bad as you could get.
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  Speaker 1: And Cannon I've been like kind of optimistic, I think
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  Speaker 1: just because of who he was in the past. But
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  Speaker 1: watch if he can't run anymore, and it's it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a struggle. I mean, I think we said
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  Speaker 1: on the show maybe mentioned like give good juice the
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  Speaker 1: chance they got, they gotta figure someone out in the offense.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be stunned if if you see Isaiah win
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  Speaker 1: get traded today, because I thought it was interesting and
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  Speaker 1: Mike Reese talked about this a little bit. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Mike asked him in the locker room, you know how
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  Speaker 1: basically how it felt to have your name thrown out there,
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  Speaker 1: and he got really really upset about it. So that's
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  Speaker 1: why I just don't think he's on the same page.
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  Speaker 1: Like for me, that's just more about we gotta get
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  Speaker 1: the locker room right, and he just doesn't seem invested
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  Speaker 1: in and even trying to attain a level where we
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  Speaker 1: can get good play out of him and really start
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  Speaker 1: to solidify things. But I just start so to Mike's point,
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  Speaker 1: if you feel like you need to get rid of
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  Speaker 1: him because he's not good for the culture anymore, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then I don't mind, you know, doing that and just
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  Speaker 1: saying Yadnika just can do the same, you know, sort
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  Speaker 1: of right quote unquote every other time. I'm sure, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that's that's looming. Um, so let's get right into it.
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  Speaker 1: It's Deuce, it's Paul, it's me, Um, it's next step.
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  Speaker 1: Duce back in the studio. I'm back. I'm back from COVID. Everybody, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for for Matt and the booth. Will will
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  Speaker 1: we be joined by anyone else today? No, Alex is
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  Speaker 1: out on community. Oh there's a lot of events. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. Tamara was out today. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's and Evan's doing coaches stuff. So yeah, we're just
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  Speaker 1: the three of us. Okay, Yeah, we'll get to the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of it though. Sure. So let's start with what
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  Speaker 1: happened today. Uh win in a row? Yes for the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots over the Jets and uh twenty one out of
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  Speaker 1: twenty three. Wow, I said it on the postgame show.
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  Speaker 1: You know, things have changed a lot of things have
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  Speaker 1: changed over the last few years. Beating the Jets is
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  Speaker 1: not one of them. So they have not dropped to
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  Speaker 1: that level yet. No matter what you say about the Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: they can still I don't know what the word is, like,
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  Speaker 1: make less mistakes than the Jets. I think that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of what it was. And you know, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: what I was talking about, like in the week leading up,
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  Speaker 1: and I told you, I'll take the blunami. If the
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  Speaker 1: Jets come out and they play better than the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: and they win the game, I'll tell I was I
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  Speaker 1: was prepared to take the slings and arrows from you,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure countless of the people listening, But this
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  Speaker 1: is what I've seen. Like, I think they have young talent,
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  Speaker 1: they have pieces in place, certainly, but they do not
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  Speaker 1: have a team yet because they're they're held back by
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I'm gonna say coaching too, because I
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  Speaker 1: just think if you watch the Patriots games, if you
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  Speaker 1: prepared for this game, and you watched the Patriots the
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  Speaker 1: last two weeks, and you said, I know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna follow what Cleveland did and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to ignore what Chicago did. That's on you. That's
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  Speaker 1: on you. That's not on Zach Wilson. That's on you.
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  Speaker 1: You asked him to do something he can't do. Throw
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  Speaker 1: the ball forty something times without turning it over. He
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  Speaker 1: can't do that yet. He might be able to do
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  Speaker 1: that in the future. He may never be able to
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  Speaker 1: do that in the future. He cost you a game
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  Speaker 1: the other day because you allowed him to Mike Lafloor.
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  Speaker 1: That was on you. You think the game would have
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  Speaker 1: been different if they had haul Hell, do you think
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  Speaker 1: the game would have been different if they just said
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  Speaker 1: we can run the ball, go three and out and
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  Speaker 1: punt every time? Yes? I do. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: to Paul's point, they've been stacking draft picks. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they've got at every kind of key position. You look
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  Speaker 1: at Sauce Gardner at safety, corn and Williams at defensive end. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know Beckton hasn't really worked out, but
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  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's out there breeze halls now, So they're building
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  Speaker 1: something there. And I mean I think in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks when we're back here, that's gonna be every
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  Speaker 1: bit the dog fight, and the Patriots are gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to again. You know, you're not gonna be able to
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  Speaker 1: get a couple of calls that swing things dramatically like
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  Speaker 1: they did. I mean, they were they were looking at
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  Speaker 1: seventeen to three, being seventeen to three right before the half.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that moment of like inflection.
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  Speaker 1: I asked the guys on the postgame show, which I
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  Speaker 1: can only imagine what it was like. I'm watching it
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  Speaker 1: by myself. I'm like, you know, losing my mind in
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  Speaker 1: my living room to to imagine what it was like
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  Speaker 1: when when that looked like they're about to throw a
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  Speaker 1: pick six here and he's gonna walk into the end
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  Speaker 1: zone and that's how we're gonna cap the first half.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everyone out there who said that could have
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  Speaker 1: been it for Mac, I kind of agree it could
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  Speaker 1: have been. Um, certainly it could have been for the game. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because I just don't see the Patriots coming
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  Speaker 1: back right from that, um, the way they were playing
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  Speaker 1: and even as it turned out. I mean, if it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't for Nick Folk again, you know, you wouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: have Yeah. But Mike, I think, is talking about not
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  Speaker 1: that was it for the game. I know he's talking
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  Speaker 1: about Mac Jones out of the game the game, I know, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think Bill would have taken him out,
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  Speaker 1: But I think it would have been a really hard decision.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that you can stay with him because
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  Speaker 1: you were on the road. If that had happened at home,
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  Speaker 1: even with the flag, even with the flag, it would
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  Speaker 1: not have been pretty Yeah, you know, I got I
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  Speaker 1: got another thing. I gotta get off my chest. To
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  Speaker 1: get it off your chest might get it all out.
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  Speaker 1: The first year you had Mac grab Brian burns his
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  Speaker 1: ankle and you know, all right, I'll let that go.
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  Speaker 1: And then we got you a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: He slides and he puts his foot up. And then
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  Speaker 1: now against the Jets game, we got him like going down. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm concussed for a moment. Second, No, I'm okay. Then
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  Speaker 1: he goes out of bounds. He kind of delays for
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  Speaker 1: a second. I'm over. I'm over the Mac Joe trying
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  Speaker 1: to bait people into injuries playing Vladi Divatch Lakers basketball.
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  Speaker 1: As my wife likes to say, that stuff's gotta go. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sick of watching him and try to get
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  Speaker 1: calls like that, and he's gonna get called. And I
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  Speaker 1: know we're making fun of Boomers, sizing on the postgame
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  Speaker 1: show about like, oh, I thought they were going to
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  Speaker 1: pull him, they should have pulled him just before being
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  Speaker 1: an idiot and trying to I wasn't voice making fun
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  Speaker 1: of Boomers. I think you brought a Boomers size and
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  Speaker 1: saying he should have been should have been pulled for
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  Speaker 1: concussion protocol. Okay, yeah, you know, I thought you meant
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  Speaker 1: pulled for performance. No, no no, no, you know, because I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't make fun of anybody that that thought he was
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  Speaker 1: going to get taken out of the game. I think
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  Speaker 1: that was in but he would have got what he
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  Speaker 1: does if he's trying to pull like these Oh I'm hurt,
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  Speaker 1: just kidding, like, I'm so sick of him trying to
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  Speaker 1: draw calls and do this stuff. Like I'll overlook the
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  Speaker 1: stuff in the beginning, but like sliding with your foot up,
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  Speaker 1: this kind of bush league stuff, it's got to go
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  Speaker 1: for me with mac Jones. Yeah, and that's a that's
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  Speaker 1: a whole separate aside. I love the rant from Mike.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little surprise to hear it from Mike, but
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Um, that's that's independent. There are so
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  Speaker 1: many bigger like the league is really impacting outcomes of games,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not listening. I'm not talking about good calls,
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  Speaker 1: bad calls or whatever. They have to figure out what
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  Speaker 1: roughing the passer is, Okay, and I'm I'm they threw
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  Speaker 1: a flag and I'm fine with the flag. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: telling you it was a bad call. I'm just telling
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  Speaker 1: you I see a lot worse than that not call. Well,
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  Speaker 1: from from game to game, from quarter to the quarter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I've seen him. Jacoby Brissette took
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  Speaker 1: a shot last night in the Monday night game that
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  Speaker 1: vastly exceeded what Mac Jones took in that game. No call.
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  Speaker 1: He was like holding his ribs going on the line
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  Speaker 1: trying to spike the ball at the end of the
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  Speaker 1: half um. And the second part is the thing that
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  Speaker 1: Boomer brought up, And this is why I sort of
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  Speaker 1: bristled at it, that whole concussion thing. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: that they made Stefan Diggs leave the game the other
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  Speaker 1: night because he bit his tongue. Wow, And they thought
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  Speaker 1: he was holding his head. He was holding his like
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  Speaker 1: he bit his tongue like that potentially impacts the game.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things I was thinking about with the
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  Speaker 1: whole roughing the passer is okay, defenses should say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we can't hit the guy hard, so we want
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  Speaker 1: you to change it, you know, the emphasis so that
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  Speaker 1: as soon as we get him in the grap the
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  Speaker 1: moment we get him in a grasp, you blow the
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  Speaker 1: whistle so that we don't have to hit him and
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to bring him to the ground. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if that's the way you want to do it, then
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  Speaker 1: give us a break here. I think I think you're
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  Speaker 1: totally right. Fred I had a similar thought of I
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  Speaker 1: think that they need to reteach players how to sack
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks when they have a free shot at him, and
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  Speaker 1: to get everybody on this sad. That's what I would
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  Speaker 1: do if I was a defensive lineman, I'd say, I
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  Speaker 1: want a seminar and what you think is right, I
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  Speaker 1: want to I want to clip you know how they
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  Speaker 1: have all the all the cut ups. Now I want
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  Speaker 1: a clip of every hit on the quarterback and I
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  Speaker 1: want every referee to tell me which one you think
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  Speaker 1: was a penalty in which one isn't, because I would
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  Speaker 1: have no idea what to do and bring the roughs
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  Speaker 1: into like have everybody lives, like we'll have a big sale.
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  Speaker 1: Charles Davis said that John Franklin Myers launched himself, so
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  Speaker 1: he didn't launch himself high, right, right, like if you
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  Speaker 1: launch Harrison, Like when you launch yourself and hit someone
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  Speaker 1: in the head. Yeah, I get why you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get a penalty like launching yourself, otherwise known as tackling. Yeah. Right,
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  Speaker 1: and and again, I have no problem that that that play.
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  Speaker 1: That play has been called roughing the passer a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't like. If I'm the Jets, I'm pissed, But
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  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I've seen roughs. Yes, this
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  Speaker 1: roughing the pastor call happened all the time. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that was an egregiously bad call. I don't. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to tell you that the Jets got screwed,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think they did. But I've seen that called,
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  Speaker 1: and i've seen it not called. And you and you
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  Speaker 1: don't get called for launching into a quarterback when you
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  Speaker 1: hit him where he hit him, like he didn't hit
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  Speaker 1: him high and he didn't hit him low, Sala said.
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  Speaker 1: After the game, they asked, they said, what was the
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  Speaker 1: explanation on the ruling, and he said, we hit him
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  Speaker 1: too hard? And he said it just like that, Like,
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  Speaker 1: you can't be kidding me. Now, I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: I said this to Fred yesterday. Mike. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you. I believe Sala and that's what
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  Speaker 1: they said. But if that's what they said, that's even worse. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you hit him, you call you gave a penalty? What
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  Speaker 1: is this youth football? I've seen that in youth. How
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  Speaker 1: do you basically hit him too hard? Right? Okay? The
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  Speaker 1: force meter he passed four thousand, whatevers and yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Now I don't necessarily believe sala. I think he was emotional,
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  Speaker 1: he was upset. He might have said something stupid. I
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  Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe that explanation. Yeah, but that was you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you see that those highlights every week, you know,
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  Speaker 1: NFL turning point. Yeah, that was the turning point of
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  Speaker 1: I know what was somebody had like the EPA or
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  Speaker 1: side what he was, like evan on for this one,
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  Speaker 1: but like it was like the biggest swing of the
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  Speaker 1: season in terms of like point potential on that one
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  Speaker 1: single play. And yeah, now give him give credit to
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots. They took advantage of that. Never looked back
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  Speaker 1: really but except you know, toward the end. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I would say they came out in the second, they
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  Speaker 1: got a really short kickoff, they got a huge run
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  Speaker 1: that romand or Stevenson somehow broke like six tackles in
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  Speaker 1: the hole and then and then they weren't a business.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that Other than that drive at the end,
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  Speaker 1: the defense played pretty well. The defense was fine, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Jets didn't help. The defense was fine.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's why you won the game was ultimately you
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  Speaker 1: were able to get them to make mistakes. And I
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  Speaker 1: do think that some of the you know it was
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  Speaker 1: pre they had some pressure in the second once they
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  Speaker 1: got the lead, they started getting some pressure on Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: I think that led to some of the bad decisions.
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  Speaker 1: So I give the defense credit. I thought they played fine. Um,
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  Speaker 1: the rest of it is just like this whole notion
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: that things changed in the second half. Matt Jones was
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: better in the first half in this game than he
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: was in the second half. They had like one hundred
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: and twenty yards of offense in the second half. This
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: hole like it got better after the break, Like Mike said,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: short field on on a mishit kick. And then the
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: best and only real play you made offensively all day
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: involved you're best player breaking about three tackles in the
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: backfield and going thirty five yards. Yeah, you don't score
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: without that. If he gets stopped in the backfield in
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: at second and twelve, you don't score in that drive. Now,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: and Paul, what do you think about And I say
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: this as somebody who who honestly was a little bit
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: hesitant to put Mac on the downlist. And I and
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: even after we got out, like before the show, I
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: was thinking about it. Christian put him right on and
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I just said my piece about I don't know, I
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: feel like there was a lot of pressure. I'm trying
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: to give him a little bit of a break. And
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you know, even after the show, I was still kind
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: of thinking about, you know, was Mac bad? Was good?
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: And now there's this kind of weird, like little seat
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: change going on where even guys like Bernardo like, actually,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: you guys, he wasn't too bad. And I don't know
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: if I'm quite ready to go there. I just I
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: just still think they're really limited. And you know, even
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: when he plays well, it still looks like, Okay, I
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: give him credit for I mean, the pressure was no question.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I mean the hits that he took. The bigger issue
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: offensively was the offensive protection. But Mac was not good. Well.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: The way I look at this game is how would
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Mack have looked if he had a decent line in
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: front of him in this game? I think he would
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: have been Okay, So who wouldn't look good in that? No,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying, like, you know, I don't
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: think it's really hard for a quarterback to look good
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: when you got a line playing the way it was playing.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: If that's the difference between the good ones and the
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: ones that, yeah, you need all the help. Yeah, And
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I think too, like as much as as as the
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: pressure was absolutely, I'm just Paul that that was more
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: than just needing a little help. That line was not
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: playing well. I mean, I understand, and he did nothing
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: to help the offensive line out. Now, I've seen good
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks do that constantly, and I think that there are
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: times to look at Joe Burrow two steps up and
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: get rid of it, like he's just not fine in
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the pocket. And I think, how do you think Joe
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Burrow played last night? We played better than Mac, but
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: he played terribly. I know, but he's he's also a
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: better quarterback than Mac. But he was awful. And because
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: his line sucks, I don't here what it was because
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: of he didn't play what you know, he's a good quarterback, Paul,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I know he is a good quarterback. Last night he
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: did not play well. Why because he didn't throw the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: ball accurately. Okay, Anyway, That's why I think like you
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: have to be fair about him. I can't just say
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: he plays every game with no protection. Tom Brady play
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: poorly when he's had right and I've seen him play
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: great when he's had no protection. He's just like Joe
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Burrow was done throughout his career with no protection. But
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: it last night he was bad. Yeah, I'm just saying
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I you know, I'm I'm giving Mac a little latitude
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: on this game. I'm not saying this is who he is.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that. Yeah, but don't miss, don't miss take it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you this was all on Mac Jones.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: The biggest problem with the Jets game was Twofold Number one.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: The Jets are pretty good on defense, they are number two.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: They could not protect the passer. They couldn't open up
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: any holes. They couldn't protect the passer. Now, I don't
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: think Mac Jones did a whole lot to overcome any
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: of that. And I think the quarterbacks job, as Bill
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Belichick says all the time, is to move the ball
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and score points. They did neither. They didn't move the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: ball and they didn't score any points. All the points
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: they got were basically given to them. They had three
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: drives in which they didn't really get a first down,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: three field goals without even recording a first down. Absolutely,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I think I think Mac himself is working through some things.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: But it's hard. It's hard. When it is hard, it's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: hard to play quarterback in that league. It is, Yes,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: it is. I I to Paul's point, I just don't
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: think he has the same kind of pocket awareness that
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: he had that I saw last year, where yes, there's pressure,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be moments the pocket is not there, but
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it's a subtle chef to the left, shut up, boom
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and get it up. And I feel like as soon
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: as the pressure he feels it, he's out. The strip
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: sack to me, was egregious on Mac. Yeah he stood
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: there too, Yeah, but had to see him. He had
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to feel that guy coming. Yeah, he's got no put
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the ball in harm's way, Like, I don't think that's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a play he would have made last year. I just
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: remember I saw that coming. I'm like, oh, come on, man,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: right right, No, And that's like one of those ones
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: where everybody you're just holding your breath because no, well,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: especially when you're thinking to yourself, I can't lose this game.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: There's no way I can lose this game unless I
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: do something really egregious to help them, like holding the ball,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Like holding the ball and have it bounced five yards
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: behind anybody where someone on the Jets can pick it
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: up and run it for a touchdown. Now, Fortunately col
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Strange ended up recovering the fumble and it didn't turn
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: into a complete disaster, but they continue to put the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: ball in harm's way far too often. Sixteen giveaway is
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: tied with by the way the Colts for the most
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: in football, and they tried hard to do it even more. Yeah,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: big should have had four turnovers in that game. Yeah,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: is it? And I can understand why some people said,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you know, was more of not a loss than a win,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you know which, Like again, it's the Jets, though they
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: had they had to win the game. So like I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: said on the post game show with Mike and like
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not big on style points, Like I'm
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not gonna tell you this was a great performance. This
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: was a gritty, gutty effort. I don't think it was.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I think they allowed the other team to mess up
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: more than they did, and they won. But they had
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a win, so I don't really care why it happened. Yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I mean the Jets, I mean they You could you
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: could make the case that if this was the game
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: where the Jets were going to break the streak, or
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: if there was a game where that this would seem
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: like it was right on a four game winning streak.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: They're pumped up. You know, you figured, Okay, this is
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be tough, and it was tough. But you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: at the same time, they're off their offense. Let them down.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I thought the quarterback like Rich Simony, is that how
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you uh? You know? Some some tweets from him, some
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: tweets from a long time Jets blogger named Joe Caparrosso
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: who runs the site Turn on the Jets. He's like,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you know, every bit of super Patriots blogger, No, this
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: is the these are people though those are your people. No,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: this is the but these are the people that you
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: have figure on the pulse of the These are the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: guys that for fifteen years he has been following the Jets,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like I've been following the Patriots. And while I've been like, wow,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I was in this great he's been suffering through everything.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: The Jets. Anyway, the vibe from them coming in was
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like twenty two. This is it, this is payback. They
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: embarrassed us last year. We've got the better team. Now
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: they were embarrassed last week. You're gonna come in here
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and and that's I mean, you talk about it wasn't
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a last week. You don't know what it would have
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: been like to lose that game to the Jets. I mean,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it would have been it would have been devastating. So
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: for that point, I'm it's a win. But I can't
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: wait for the rematch in a couple of weeks because
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that team can't maybe watch sixty more minutes or those
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: two teams playing. Please, it's actually three weeks because of
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the vibe. All right, right, I got you. The buyers
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: don't count to me, Paul, and I'm only football. Sorry
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that was COVID brain right there. Um. But yeah, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna come back in and they're gonna play
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: even more with something to prove some pressure off, not
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: in front of their fans. It's not like the big
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: production of this is when we take down the dynasty.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But me though, says that when they have that close
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: game in New York, they come back here and get
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: absolute least absolutely fact, yeah, absolutely fact. I agree with
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Mike though in this in this case, in that I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people just have penciled in these
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: two games, the Colts and the Jets the second one. Um,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Like I said, if they just go back and look
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and they say, all we have to do is be
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: conservative and keep him out of harm's way, we can win.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: They will have a chance to. I will guarantee you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: if they just don't turn the ball over, they'll have
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a chance. Yeah, I'm not telling you they'll win if
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: they don't turn it over, But if they just stay
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: out of the way and and make him throw when
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: he wants to as opposed, you know, make it twenty
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: three attempts instead of forty one attempts. He I mean,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: this is probably for a different time, maybe an offseason.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I'd be ridiculously frustrated if I were a Jets fan,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: because it's one thing to have a bust that you
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: you know, Achille Smith just couldn't do it. You know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: DeMarcus Russell, countless others right high draft picks that just
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: can't play. This guy can play. He's just too stubborn.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: To understand when and when not to do things that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, some of the throws he made on
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that in that game were ridiculous. The throw in the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: first like the second drive, the bomb on the when
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: he escaped the pocket rolling to his right and he
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: hit Grett Wilson in stride, Like, that's not an easy play.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: He's got a great arm, you know what I think
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: he is. He's Josh Allen light well, and I don't
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: know if he can ever figure it out the way
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen did. Josh Allen still has some of those things.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Don't think he respects the speed of the defense. He doesn't.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: He doesn't ren outrun everybody. He doesn't respect anything. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: just I think once he gets off his first read
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and things start to change. I mean, I think he's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: pretty good when he's on the run sometimes, but those
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: mistakes are just absolute. Like, you know, he's running like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: twenty five yards behind the line of scrimmage. I know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy your your bat pedal and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you're not even gonna reach the line of scrimmage. Would
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you throw? I've never seen a guy throw so many
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: interceptions or interception worthy throws while trying to throw the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: ball away. It's like and he was trying to throw
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the ball away and he throws it to Devin mccordy,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and like, I don't really understand how stupid you have
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to be as a quarterback to just not run to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the right and throw it out of bounds right, and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it's and it's as much as damage as the turnover
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: does within the game, I think psychologically to your team,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: because I know how I felt about this guy's an
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: idiot when you said about all that stuff about the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: crowd and the fans and the reaction going into the game,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I felt like that all completely disappeared on the first interception. Yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: there was not one peep in that stadium the whole
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: second half, and it was all because they were like, Okay,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: this is what we've been doing. We stay close, we
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: get the lead. It's a low score that that was
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the Jets kind of game. At ten three with the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: ball to end the half, it was probably going to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: be thirteen three because they were moving and they had
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: moved the ball. They had four hundred yards of offense
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: in this game, Like, they moved the ball reasonably well
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and only that last drive was garbage town. You know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and I'll chop off the last drive. Patriots defense played well, yeah,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: so I'm not telling, but I'm stuff. They made some
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: plays in this game and they were moving at the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: end of the half and he had the running back
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I think it was Ty Johnson wide open and he
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: throws off his back foot. He floats it carelessly. If
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: he doesn't figure it out, he'll always be that. But
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you know that a lot of those things that he
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: does the things that Josh Allen did. Yes, until he
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: figured out he does not have the size or physical
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: gifts that Josh Allen does. That's why you say he's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen light. He couldn't hit. He's gonna hit the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: bull every once in a while because he's all over
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the place with that army. But he can throw the
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: ball that that touchdown throw to Conklin the first touchdown.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Oh that was I mean, I felt bad for Josh.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Great coverage on that play. That's exactly what I wrote
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: in my little thing called I was like, that's the NFL.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: He can you a little thing out of it. Sorry,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: but I think that these teams are so interesting to
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: me because you have you know, obviously, the quarterbacks line
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: up in terms of the draft class. But you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: we always talk about you need high round draft guys,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: you need talent, and I think when you look at
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the Jets, they have talent. How did Garrett Wilson look
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the awesome? I mean, he was my favorite receiver coming out,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: like I mean, he's not the best receiver. The best
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: receiver was hers. Wilson killed them, you know, and don't
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: even talk about you know, like third fourth overall pick
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: guys like Franklin Myers. I mean, these guys are disruptive,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: they are tough, and you know, it's just it's interesting
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: for a team. Sometimes. We talked so much about the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Patriots being kind of talent starved and only having you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: if you're doing a draft, how many Patriots would you
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: take versus Jets. I get those points, and it's just
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is killing them. He kills them, and if
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: he just didn't do that, the Jets would probably be
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: neck and neck. I think that was one of those games.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And I know you guys are gonna make fun of me,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and I know the fans and the I mean the listeners,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and you're right to make fun of me for saying
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: this because I'm going to come off as a in Bill,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: we trust Nube. You switch, you switch coaching staff, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the Jets win that game Sunday. There's no dub. You
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: don't have to switch a player because their quarterback didn't
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: play that much worse than yours did, Like he just
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: made stupid mistakes. That Mac Jones got away with Zach
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Wilson um. But I think if you had the constant
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: browbeating that Bill Belichick would have, my guests would have,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't have seen those balls thrown into Harm's way
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: like that. It's something to think about it. And I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: think you need to remember that you're gonna face Bruce
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Hall with this team a bunch. I mean, he's not
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: going anywhere. So this team is young, they have a
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: lot of talent. They maybe you know, they're not quite
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: there yet. They're making the mistakes, but as soon as
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: three weeks from now, it's it's we've got Romandre Stevenson.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: That week I saw the forty nine as we're looking
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to get you know, Alvin Kamara, they were had you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: uh not the forty nine. What the I don't know
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: what you're talking. I think the Rams had feelers out
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: for Alvin Kamara um to the Saints, and I was thinking, well,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: we don't need him because we've got Stevenson. I mean,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: this guy, he's now doing it in the passing game.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: He's doing the running game. Just let it go. Who
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was looking for Alvin Kamara? Somebody was. I don't know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: but I would take Alvin Kamara over. Remind Stevens. I
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: don't know. Stevens is pretty good now he's getting better.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: He's fine. I mean he is. He's the best player
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: in the team. I told you out a month ago.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: You guys scoffed at not you. You scoffed at me.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I did never scoff at I don't think. And the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: listeners scoffed at me. I didn't. I didn't scoff fred said,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Isaiah wit It left guard. You didn't, you didn't, scoff
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: at me, Mike Rope, I'm right. But he had almost
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: half of the Patriots offensive yards. That's what happens when
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you don't get any offensive yards. No, he had like
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five or something like that. They
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: only had two hundred and eighty as a team now.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: And that's and like the and the point is and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I think Paul and I both kind of highlight what
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: he ended, right, That's what happens when you don't get
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: any yards. One guy accumulates them, all right, And it's
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: him though you know it's him. It's I mean, it's
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: not like you could say, well, our offensive line is great.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Plug anybody in there, and they're going to pick up
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: these yards, breaking tackles at he's meeting guy, Guys are
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: meeting him in the hole. He's making a mess, he's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: running over guys, he's breaking tackles. I mean, he's he
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: had at least three zero yard runs in that game
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that were amazing runs. Zero yard runs. Yeah, so he's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: been he's been playing great and they had fourteen plays
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and minds. I don't understand what's going on with the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: rest of the wide receivers. I don't understand. How can
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: it be? And I guess you know you got to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: put it on Mac, But are they not getting open? Uh?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You know, Born played like half the snaps. How many
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: targets did he get? I mean, I didn't remember anybody. Yeah,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't either. One, I don't even
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: remember he was out there half the time. Agalore one
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Parker one, born one, Thornton two, Like, what's got your
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: your other four wide receivers. That's why I don't want
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to trade any of them. I think they need them. Yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you know, now it looks like Parker is going to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: miss at least sometime. Um, you know, he might get
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: lucky with the bye week and maybe only miss a game.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: But I mean that's basically two games because he played
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: one play in this game, right, So I think that's
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: why I felt like I did when I wrote the
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you know, just hold on to them at some point.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: If you're so now you're missing Parker, Let's say you're
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: missing Myers, who missed you know, a game earlier, right
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: with at least one game with with the knee injury.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I think Green Bay he missed. Yeah, so let's say
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know you got to be without him, you're gonna
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: need Agalore ye, And I don't know, like I'm very encouraged.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I'm very encouraged by Tae Kwon Thornton. As you guys
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: know from training camp. I haven't seen much around the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks now, right, He's gotten a lot
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of opportunities. I didn't like that drop. The drop looked
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: like he was hearing footsteps a little bit. I'm not listen.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: He's a kid, he's he's finding his way. I love
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the skills. I'm not killing him. I'm just saying I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: think myself included, I think people would just say, well,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: he could just do the Agalore role because he's better
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: than a right He's he's fast, he can get downfield,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: he can make big plays. But is he ready for that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: He might not be ready for that big of a role.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: He might be more suited to what we kind of
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: thought heading into the year. Let's get him out there.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Let's give him some shots, see if he can make
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: some plays. I love the shot they took at him
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: in the Chicago game that unfortunately got a little pressure.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: You got hit as he right as he was throwing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: It just missed, but he had a step. That's what
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I want to see from Thornton. Give him some opportunities
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: down the field. I figured exactly what the play was,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: but it was an agile or play coming towards us
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: where he got the ball behind the line of scrimmage.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Either it was the throw to him and it looked
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: like he had some speed and then he just kind
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: of ran right into like the blocking and fell down
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Jets defense. I will say this for all the shots
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that we've been taking at the Jets so far. You know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: through this first half hour, the Jets defense looked at me,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: feel like, if you take a shots, I feel like
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: we could taking his shots to Zach Wilson desertly so.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: But otherwise I have a lot of respect for that
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: their personnel. Yeah, I don't think that. I don't think
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: that was a flukey back to front. They're pretty good defense. Yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I think that all the key pieces, you know, if
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Jerremay Johnson turns into an elite pass rush and he's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: kind and he's been he's been decent. He's just been
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: battling some injuries lately. He missed the last two games. Um,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: he hasn't been great, but he's been okay. And I
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: think that they have the makings, like you know what
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you watch fred Or is your thing. I'll save you
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the line, And we haven't had it yet this week.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: You know, they're very easy to defend. H Yeah, that's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: what they looked like because the Jets had no respect
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: for that offense the other day they were out at
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: or around. It might made me think of it when
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: he talked about the like the screen to aggal Or,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: it wasn't really a screen, but it was like a screen,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: bubble screen kind of. You know. They tried one to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: John H. Smith that Matt had a turf because they
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: blew it up. They were around the line of scrimmage,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: you know, secondary guys were around the line of scrimmage
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: constantly making tackles. Sauce Gardner was was doing it and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: it wasn't and they weren't getting burned. Yeah, right, because
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: they had no fear of getting beaten, beaten over the top,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and if they did get beaten over the top, they
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I think that they were pretty confident that their front
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: four would not allow the time that it would take
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to make those places. Yeah. I think I think the
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: issue for them also, to highlight, is like we got
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to get Stevens into the ground, you know, like we
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: we have them, like don't let them just don't let
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: them get out of it. You know. That's but otherwise,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I uh, you know, I hate saying it that that
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of respect, but I mean you're
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to your point, Paul. If you switch coaches, it's like
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: if Bill Belichick leaves soon you're not going to have
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: that advantage anymore. And you're looking at the Jets with
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: some serious talent. They they they are a team on
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the rise, I think. But they got to figure out
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and if he's not right, then it's just
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: gonna stay right where it is. Receiving word a huge
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: huge trade. Um that took place doesn't involve the Patriots?
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah about it? Uh? T J Hawkinson going from the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Lions to the Vikings. Um, so he will get them
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the rare opportunity to play as a non division game
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots twice. So share a huge deal with
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the Vikings sending twenty twenty three second rounder in a
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four fourth rounder for Hawkinson. Yes, yeah, so
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: yeah they get Ah, this is kind of confusing. A
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: second rounder in a fourth rounder in exchange for Hawkinson. Uh,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: fourth rounder and a conditional fourth round. Well that's great
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: because you know the Patriots don't really under defend tight ends.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So well, so wow, well here's the thing they did
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to end him very well, they took him out of
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: the game. Yeah. Um, but you're right. Pretty much every
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: other tight end otherwise is it's a lot of other
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: problems from the Minnesota to worry about complimentary receivers, you
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: might say, right, um, you know when IRF Smith has
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: been decent for them too, Um, who I kind of
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: liked out of that draft, he's been quiet. Do you
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: think I kind of like it's interesting, you know, so
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the Bears they trade away their linebacker for a second
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: round pick in a fifth Do you think the Lions like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: look at that. We should be we should be doing
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: things like that right now. I don't think. I don't think,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I think Hawkinson's a guy you should be
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: trying to build around. Now. I don't know. Maybe he's
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: a pain in the ass. Maybe he's tired of the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: losing and he just wanted out, Like Roquan Smith, like
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: like the Robert Quinn, the Robert Quinn one for Chicago
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world. He's a veteran guy.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: He's not really of much use for you. He's not
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: going to be really a viable part of your rebuild.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: But Roquan Smith could have been if you could have
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: come together, And I think T. J. Hockinson could have
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: been in Detroit. Those are a little bit different to me,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: but that's a that's a big trade for the Vikings.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Vikings of six and one, even though I know I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: think about this much and I have my fingers more
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of them than I do the Jets. I think they're
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: extremely lucky every week, but there's six on one. Bottom line,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I got talented number five spot in the Power rankings.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that Roquan Smith move is good,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: good one for the Baltimore especially. I think you're Baltimore
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: right now. You're looking like we're not quite Kansas City Buffalo,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: but you're right there, and you know, maybe you need
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: somebody to deal with those two guys a little bit.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: That's a good move. So you know, our guy Elaine Poopa,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: who talks to us all the time for Miami, he
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: had a funny tweet. He was like, you know, really
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: really good work done by the scheduling department for Miami.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: They played Balton well before they got Roquan Smith, and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: they played Chicago after they traded Roquan. Funny those Chicago
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: beats the Patriots and they're like, wep, that's it. We're
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: done down everybody. Not that it's neither hitting nor there.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I wonder if the Patriots unlocked something with Justin fields.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I thought he looked better against Dallas than I've seen
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: him last four or five games. He looks like he's
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: sort of starting to piece some things together and show
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit. His numbers are still terrible. I didn't
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: did they run him a lot? I mean, that's what
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I said going into the game. Why aren't they given
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: him the Lamar treatment? They gave him the Lamar treatment
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: against US and they got Yeah. I don't know how
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: much he ran by design because I didn't see the game,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: but I mean they scored twenty nine points. Yeah, so
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you know they got blasted. They lost forty nine twenty nine.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: The game was never closed. But I think he was
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit better in that game than he has
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: been for the balance of the season. All Right, eight
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: five five past five hundred is the eighth Stiket hot line,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Web Radio straight is the email address, and if anything
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: else happens then you know the Trade Front will be
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: sure to mention that on the show. Um, four o'clock
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: is the deadline. So yeah, I wanted to get my
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: notes up as block tonight. You might know if I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: wanted to get my my notes up as quickly as
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I possibly could, so people could read it before they
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: actually made a trade and made it all a moot point.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Vic Carrucci says, Julius Peppers might be Mike. Mike, you
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: probably don't get that. Uh, it wasn't trade for Peppers
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: was imminent. He was actually on the show physically. Oh
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: really Yeah, and he's like, I'm telling you yeah, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Uh, sources are wrong. U. Let's go
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to Anthony in Seattle. What's up? Anthony on the stickin
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Good Good Sure, Hey, I was calling because I got
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to say I'm loving the Andy Hart cameos on the show. Yeah,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and it got me thinking, and so I was I
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: was curious, So I called curious, a little bit of
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain, if you if you would,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: if you would, I was curious, though, how did it
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: work with you guys in terms of Okay, you guys
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: are I guess you're media personalities or I'm not sure
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: what your titles are. We literally work for the team,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: So don't you know you starting your week? Do you guys?
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Are you guys like just kind of paid a salary
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and then you get to like there's no money like
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: self govern like, okay, I'm gonna make this many radio appearances,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: this many TV appearances or do you have like a
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: quota that you like kind of got to meet each
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: week and then like a situation like where like Andy,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I assume it seemed like he was kind of just
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you guys saw him outside of the studio, you kind
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: of just weighed him. All. That's all that was. Yeah,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: so real quick Anthony. Andy does a quick hit for
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: his actual job after the press conferences on Wednesdays. He
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: works now for w EI, which is one of the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: all sports stations of Boston, one of the two all
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: sports stations. So he comes into the radio studio. We
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: have two separate radio studios in our area, so he
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: comes in onto one of the radio studios, he does
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a quick hit, and while he's here, we flag him
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: in and have him come on and do a segment
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: with us. That's all that is. Nothing that's scheduled or
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: anything like that. It just kind of happened. So something
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: like that is that. And again I'm not trying to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: fry anything. I'm just get by us. No, No, he
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: has to pay us, right because we're actually helping his radio.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: He gets paid by w EI to do the spot
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: that he did, we have more listeners, so it helped that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: It helped me. That's that's fact. So I'm guessing something
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: like that. The thing that's in it for him is
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to continue to like just fun. Yeah, it's he enjoys it.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: It's just just for fun. Yeah, well friends like he
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't do like he if there was like three guys
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: in here that he didn't know. I don't think he
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: would like even look twice. Like a lot of times
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I'll be down here on Mondays when EI is in
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the studio and I don't even look twice at them
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: because I don't have any interest in joining them, right
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: because I don't really you know, I'm not all that
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: familiar with all these shows and personnel. Did he come on?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Because mostly I was thinking more fun. Then I'm like
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: somebody like me who I always loved Andy Howard part
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: of this part of the show. I'm loving the cameos.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, what's in it or what incentive does
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: he have to come back and do that, you know,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: because it's been like what three times in six or
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: eight games in the season, so it's like, oh, it's
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: kind of nice, but it's just for fun, just having fun.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: He's in the neighborhoods who stops by? Yeah, yeah, well
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: thank you guys, all right, thanks, Anthony Sausage gets made. Yeah,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the scenes here, well, of course when I do my
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: freelance stuff. That's all go on. Williams and philam, what's up,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: William How are you doing for it? What's going on?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: All right? Doing? All right? All right? Uh? Question? Um
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the respective pictures to do something. I hear about all
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the calls they're getting. But is they bring in somebody
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: in the house. I doubt it. I think maybe they
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: might ship, but like ship win for say a win,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: but I don't know what you're gonna get for that
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: conditional seventh. No, I'm not talking about pigs play they think,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: so yeah, unless they tried to get some offensive line reinforcements,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: which is David Andrews being injured and some of the
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: interior guys. I mean, well that's the thing. Like you
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: wonder how you know Belichick and Matt grow view the season.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Is it worth it to give up draft capital to
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: get a guy who you think can help you this year?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: You know? And that's why I kind of say, yeah,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: that's right. Like to Paul's point, it's like you need
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: an offensive guard. Well, you're gonna trade Isaiah Win away
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and then bringing another tackle who you think is going
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to be better than that, which is fine if you do,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: like you want to a shuffle and chairs on the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: done the Titan. And again if if the idea with
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: moving Win is because you think he's a problem, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I have seen no evidence that he's a problem. But
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: if he is, they know that the coaches understand what's
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: going on, the dynamic they have, they might need a
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: that they might need to make a change you're not
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: going to have. Then you know, a fifth or sixth
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: round is better than nothing. Yeah, I mean, especially because
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: it was Reese too. I mean when I was reading
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Reese's things, I'm imagining him do what he does and
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: sking Isaiah Win those questions and Isaiah Win throwing the
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you know, throwing the window down like that. Just just
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: just wanted to ask noope running to give him a
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: little right. I don't know that that struck me my face,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: you know. And again like just you come right in
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and your first play you just get absolutely walked right
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: into the lap of the quarterback. It's just it's like
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: it's how do you keep putting them out there. It
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: was bad. And you know, France, I saw sixty five
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: going sideways a couple of times and cold strange, you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: it was they were having trouble. But those guys, especially
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: inside like Quentnin Williams is a beast, and I'm just
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: saying they better trouble. You better be ready for this
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: week too, because now you have DeForest Buckner. But when
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you when you're it's pretty good too. When your line
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: is playing well and you play against guys like quinnin Williams,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you figure it out. You figure out how to double team.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: You figure out you got to be in sync. You know,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you gotta be inc you know, and you and you
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: manage it. You manage it. You know. The Patriots have
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: been in the situation before where they've played against really
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: good defensive lines, and you know, Scar would figure out, okay,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: this is how we're going to do that. And they're
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: playing together and they you know, they don't win every battle,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: but they win the majority of them, or at least
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: give the quarterback enough time to execute the play. Yeah.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: You know, um, well, I I connected to you know
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: in at point of pause, which I think is you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: just an example of you know, a guy who's not
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: like digging into PF numbers, but watching the games and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: seeing that, you know, David Andrews is a big help
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: to col Strange and you know there's nothing wrong with
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: that when they're playing well. I think the line all
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: needs to play together. But we saw, Yeah, you lost
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: one guy in David Andrews, but you're really kind of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: lost too because now Cole Stranger is kind of on
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: an island and you know needs a little bit more help.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: So you get to this point in the season, you're
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: trying to find your identity and some cohesiveness, especially upfront
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: where early on and you know it's out of sync
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit, you're blowing coverages. I mean, we saw
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: it this year. Guy's free runners. At least we're not
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: seeing free runners. I mean now the free runners are
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: just coming right through our tackles instead of you know,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: not being blocked at all. But you know, I think
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: that that's a big, big part of the element of it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: We gotta you know, get David Andrews back in there,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and you know, just I think this team needs to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: really think about this offensive line this offseason and how
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to get that in order a great I mean, you
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: get a guy like John Franklin Myers too. I was
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: just looking up because I didn't remember like a fourth
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: round pick in eighteen. Like that's that's a good that's
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: a good draft pick. He's a good player. I mean,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's like Aaron Donalds or anything, but
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: he's a good player. Let's go to Chris and Fort Lauderdale. Hey, Chris, Hey, guys,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Yeah? I guess not anymore?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Do you actually wish people happy? Holloway? I got like
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: ten people last night in my house, the whole night. Really, Yeah,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with all the candy? Very
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: low night? I I I didn't get anyone you know
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: in our house. Because you don't you're not very welcome.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: A very long road to get up. There's very welcoming.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Like I even forgot. I don't even think we had
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: any candy in the house. I would have had to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: give him, like, you know, a soap and a string.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Here's some pa, What do I do with this? Will
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: you see? You'll never run? So sorry, Chris, we just hill.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I'm glad no one got any watch McCalls this year. Yeah,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: that's wrong. Um. I had a report for Fred and
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: then a question for the group. Okay, Um, Fred. The
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: other day I called in about you Guys being the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: original podcast and how my friends gave me a hard
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: time about it, and a segment of the show for
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: my friend and all taught and are actually big fans
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: of you guys because they thought you guys were hilarious.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: So that was kind of cool. Great for that nice.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I know. Mike says like, I wonder how that's gonna go,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: and it went really well. I didn't expect to, so
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: UM the question, and I agree that asking um trying
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to trade for a piece like a wide receiver or
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you know, a big offensive piece doesn't seem worth it
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: this offseason or um this trade deadline. But is there
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: worth in adding to the offensive line and is there
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: any way to make that happen? Um? That would be
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: my question, and they'll take off the air. I just
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: can't believe that, you know, any team that has a
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: good tackle wants to get rid of right, you'd have
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: to look at a bad to middling team that has
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a good tackle that's contract is expiring. That's the only
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: and I everything has to line up like yeah, and
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not like, like, let's say, if there
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was like a Trent Williams on a bad team something
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: like that. You know, he's kind of always just grumbled,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you know, but he's a big part of what they
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: do now, so and he's not going anywhere. I wouldn't think.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: So that's what you need to look for. But I
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: don't know, I think it's and you gotta also have
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: a quarterback you don't like, because like you trade your
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: starting tackle midway through the season, and what is that
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: saying to your quarterback? Yeah, I know when I just
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I think this is a long term problem and something
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that they need to like get into place, and you're
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: not going to get a long term fixed really. I mean,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe you trade for a guy and then
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you extend them, but that just it seems like a
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: lot I think. I mean, I think it's going to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: be about the drest and you're really trying to find
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: some new tackles that that you know can be up
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and coming. I mean, even this, you know, kids Stuber
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: next year, I'll be like on waiting with bated breath
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to watch Andrews Stuber to come out of the tunnel
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: to be like anything anything, please, But yeah, Paul shakes
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: his head. That was a fair guy. This is not
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: a YouTube show. I just know I didn't mean coming
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: back to some people. I don't think you don't know.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I thought you were shaking your head as it saying
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: he's never going to be good. That that was. That's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: what I was shaking my head at, because that's what
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I've been told. He's not like necessarily thought of as
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: a as a young prospect. Jason Hines they have some
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: hope for Yeah, all right, Well, although that was weird,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: like you need it, you know, so you you lose
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: some a layer of depth at center, and Jason Hines
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: can play center and he's active every week. And all
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, you was David Andrews and David and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Jason Hines goes on IR right when Yadneyka just gets
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: activated off I r and then you have to promote
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Cody Russy from the practice squad. But Russy, I don't
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: know if all right? That whole thing was weird. Yeah, timing,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: it's always weird. Of those guys you haven't seen or
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: hurt anything of all of a sudden end up on
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: an air, all right, lots of emails at web radio
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com, so let's go to some of them.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Jackson and Aubrey says, standing six five and having been
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: one of the most athletic offensive linemen at the NFL combine,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Cole Strange has both the length and the nimble feet
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to play right tackle. Why don't the Patriots try moving
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Strange to right tackle and moving Isaiah went to left guard.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: The results couldn't be worse than what we have been
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: seeing so far this season. Something must be done. Yeah,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think again you're weakening two spots. I mean,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I think he's a guard. He's played inside his whole.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I mean he can play some center maybe, but I
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: think you're just asking too much of him. Let him,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: let him get settled left guard, and you know, get
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Andrews back in. He's been solid this year. I mean,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: he's a rookie, but I still think, you know, everybody
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: who probably wants him to, you know, come right in
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and be perfect. He hasn't been that. But I still
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: think that the arrow points up with him long term.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: And I think between him and on, when you you've
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: got two really good guards that are you know, a
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: kind of a complimentary pair with on when you be
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: in the road greater and you know, strange being really
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: athletic and really snarly, which I love. He's gonna need
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: some time. I think next year offseason, bulk him up
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit, get a little bit of weight on him.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I think those are some of the problems he has
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: handling some of that NFL power. He saw it against
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: the Jets with those two guys who are just beasts, Yeah,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Addison and Fresno. Wright saying, I wanted to raise the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: point that the Patriots actually were better off for attempting
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: both of the fourth downs than kicking two field goals
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: in the red zone. Kicking two field goals with automat
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: nick would have been would have given six points, and
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: going for both fourth downs resulted in one touchdown, good
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: for seven points. I personally wanted the Patriots to kick
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: in both cases because you can beat the Patriots with
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: your kicker. That said, the aggressive play did result in
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: an extra point. Put me down for team zappy. If
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: it'll help Paul's pedal growth, Paul Ken, your pole still grow? No,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's tapped out. What what did I miss? Nothing? Uh,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: let's talk about cold strings. Somebody want to move Cole
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Strange a right tackle? Um, I said no after that game? No, no,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: thank you. H oh wow we get unvarnished deuce coming
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: off the COVID fog. Yeah. I know. I'm just unleashed
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: in my room. I got thoughts about the Patriots. I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: want to share them. Yeah. I wouldn't completely say never
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: with cold Strange moving to tackle, but I don't think
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: this is the time. No. I think he's struggling guard.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: That's like a next season thing. Maybe if you even
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: think he can do it right, because you might need
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: two tackles next year. Yeah. David writes in do you
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: think the Patriots as a team have reached their potential
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: for the season. It seems like they need to win
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: a certain way and haven't figured out how to win
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: games that don't follow a pattern. Based on the remaining schedule,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: will we see this team play better than expected or
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: put together a complete game? Uh? I mean I'm not
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: gonna say firmly yes or no. I mean I still
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: have some confidence. I mean I think in the defense,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I think they're good defense. I'm not going to say
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: that they're a great defense right now, but I think
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: on any given night, save for a couple of teams,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: that defense can can keep you in games, which just
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: about everybody. I mean, look at the parody in the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: league this year. I mean, is there really other than
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: maybe four or five teams, any team that you don't
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: think they got no shot against. I mean, there's only
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a few good teams this year. Yeah, unfortunately many many
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: of them are on the schedule of the second half.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, the Raiders, the Raiders look
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit different. The Cardinals look a little bit different. Yeah,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I'd be curious to see with those two teams. See,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't think they look really especially the Cardinals. I'd
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: be curious to see what those teams look like against
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the Patriots though, well, well it's Kyler Murray and the
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: mobile quarterback stuff that that's been a big problem m
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: But I still think it comes down to your game
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: against the Jets, beating Miami again, how you know, I
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: don't like, I don't know, I don't know how much
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: confidence you're gonna have in that beat Miami. Well, I
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: think that's the step to take. I mean, I think
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: that's the bar for me. I'm not really holding not
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: hope much again Buffalo. But I think for the Patriots
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: to like get out of this kind of funk that
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: they've been in. I get the total point. I've made
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: it a one hundred times myself that there's a formula
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: for this team and that's how they kind of have
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: to win. And yeah, last week in the second half
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: it was on full display. But to get to that
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: next point, you knock off Miami here at the end
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: of the season. I think that that would be, you know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: a nice step, whether the playoffs or in the mix
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: or not. It would depend to me on what Miami
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: looks like at the time. But if they look like
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: they look right now, yeah, I would agree with everything
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Mike just said. But it's tough. It's tough. Are they
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: won't look like that and you know, and we'll see
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: that that's a long way off. Both teams won't look
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the same, you know, because they'll lose a lot of
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: players between now and then. And that's the point. I mean,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I know Evan Evan, I was texted with him this morning.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's all hot and bothered by them running
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: our pos. I mean, to him, just them running our
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: pos is like reset that the trajectory of like what
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: they could possibly do. I'm not there yet, but I
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: do just at least. I mean, how can it not
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: get better this year? Like every year we've talked too.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Thinks that's the key to unlockable. He well, he likes it.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: He just likes. I'm not saying it's the key to unluxus,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: but he likes that. He thinks they should do more
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: of that kind of thing. I'll let him speak for
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: himself tomorrow. I'm not gonna lie. I'm probably not gonna
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: be paying attention that that's disrespectful. It's not disrespecting. Hangs
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: on every one of your words, Paul. He doesn't. He
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't have any respect whatsoever for any of the opinions
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I have. It's pretty clear. But anyway, oh wow, how
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: did trash talk? It's just like going on because they
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: all twenty two guys don't respect the guys that don't
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: do that. It's it's pretty clear, like, let me tell
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: you why you're wrong. It's basically the mantra of all
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the guys that watch all twenty two like, but Dard like,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: and I like Greg. I like him personally. I get
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: along with them very well. But he has to come
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: on Twitter. You say and say, I was as surprised
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: as you guys are. So another would you watch the
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: game and thought one thing and then you go and
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: do this all twenty two thing and you think something
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent different. Yes, that's ridiculous. Well not necessarily, Paul.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: You're telling me that you watch a game and think
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: a guy's awful, then you watch a game m again
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: and you think the guy was great. That that can happen,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't ever remember him saying he was great.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: He said it was really good. No, yes, he did
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: said it wasn't as bad as it looks. That's not
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: what he said. And he said he was okay, he
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: was actually really good. Yeah is what he said. I
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: don't know. And again I read it too. And then
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to tell me that
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: there was a play that you thought, you watched the
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: replay and say, on second thought, I actually think he
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: did the right thing and someone else. That's that's exactly
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: that's holy possible. That's holy possible. That's what he was saying.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: That's not what he said. He actually said it about
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. He said that the pick looked more like
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: it was on Jacoby Myers and that he didn't know.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I read the whole thing. He doesn't know, He said
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: that can I can? I disagree on that one too,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know, and he said, I think. And
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: my view of it was that I thought Mac had
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry, like, no problem, easy completion. I thought to me,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: what potentially could have happened? And again I have no idea,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: but it seemed to me like Mac on the fly
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: been like, oh, there's no one behind you, so that way,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: because it was wide open behind him. Um. I wondered
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: if it was more Mac just trying to improvise and
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: get Jacobe to improvise with him so that they couldn't
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: nail the touchdown. But I thought he had Hunter Henry
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: right away. I thought that was an easy, easy completion,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: just to Hunter Henry. And I don't know why everyone's
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: overthinking it, and I don't know. I don't because I
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: don't know, unlike everybody else that does this, I don't
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: know what the play calls are and I don't know
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: what is supposed to happen on every right because even
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the all twenty two people don't know that. But I
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: can just tell you if Myers was supposed to go
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: out on that play? Why was Michael Carter there to
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: pick the ball off? What do you mean, oh, on
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: this talking about the pick? On the pick okay, on
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the pick six? Why was Michael Carter? Because he thought
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: he was going to go out too. He thought he
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: was gonna go out too because the Myers picked the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: right leverage, you're saying to go the right way because
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: he ran away from Again, I don't know. Yeah, I
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: don't know what's supposed to though, But maybe that's just
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: one of those They have a good coverage here and
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: we're not going to throw it to Jacoby Myers because
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: they're sitting on it. I don't know. But everybody, I
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say everybody. Some people have completely absolved a quarterback
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: on that play and put it on Jacoby Myers. He's
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: supposed to go out there, and I don't really understand why.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: If he's supposed to go out, there's a defender out
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: there who picked the pass off. Right. Again, I don't
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: know because I don't know what the calls are and
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I don't pretend to try to figure it out. All right,
• 56:23
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  Speaker 1: the forty nine of New England. Jones and the gun
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  Speaker 1: joined by Damien Harris who has left two by two
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  Speaker 1: to Jones to give to Harrod. No fake to Harris
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  Speaker 1: A treats with a good faith to Damian Harris's defense
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  Speaker 1: collapsed out of him and Jones tried to feather it
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  Speaker 1: out to Jacoby Myers incomplete. The Jets take over at
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  Speaker 1: to receivers to the ridiculating burials in motion. The staff
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  Speaker 1: and rows of Recla gets intercepted by by card how
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  Speaker 1: a high ball. He picks it up and runs it
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  Speaker 1: to the forty of New York. Oh my god, a
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  Speaker 1: critical air by Zach Wilson. It's the worst, the worst
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  Speaker 1: throw I'd seen whole year. Snap to Jones in the pocket,
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  Speaker 1: looking luck throws its season goodbye, million side thirty five,
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  Speaker 1: forty two midfield, down the right side of a third,
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  Speaker 1: oh to the twenty to the ten under the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: There is a crime trailing the interception by Carter Rudon
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  Speaker 1: and it all the way back. Michael Carter was an
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  Speaker 1: apparent pick six. So there is a tick that that
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  Speaker 1: the thirty three s defense. John coming off the ball
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  Speaker 1: ruff in the path and up there from the nine
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  Speaker 1: had pass the forty five off the hand h Field
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  Speaker 1: found to the right to the forty to the thirty,
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  Speaker 1: chased by Mosley and shoved down a bound Romandray Stevens
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  Speaker 1: into the New York twenty seven. Now they've got a
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  Speaker 1: fourth to one from the five. Jones again and the gun.
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  Speaker 1: Myers to his left trips to the left, including Stevenson.
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  Speaker 1: Myers motions to the right wing, snap loaded Jones. He
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  Speaker 1: throws the right check over with the catch, first down,
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  Speaker 1: four dive to the end zone, touchdown Patriots. Hey Gold's
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  Speaker 1: New England. Lead. It's a shorter high staff, it's a
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  Speaker 1: pressure free fund pads kicks high looked short to the
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  Speaker 1: forty returnable for Jones. He starts Jeff to mid three
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  Speaker 1: feel chased by Judi side steps side and a single book.
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  Speaker 1: Devin McCarty. He comes on her along the sideline. A
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  Speaker 1: throw away by Wilson and a gift for the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: to have it at the forty one and Beth Boy
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  Speaker 1: short motion from the right side of stepped back to
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  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. He's pressure together, He's chased to the life.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Wilson in pursuit. Now it dies quote us a
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  Speaker 1: to the thirty five forty far sideline. Fifth gol Devin
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  Speaker 1: down the sideline of the forty, stepping out of bound
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  Speaker 1: after his second pick of the day. Wilson has left
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  Speaker 1: their pressure. Wilson is sacked by Lawrence god and looking
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  Speaker 1: to have is gone. Wilson slack inside the tay coming
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  Speaker 1: two overall pick out the draft here, you're married to
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  Speaker 1: this guy. Ain't going quarterback, waits on the staff ad
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  Speaker 1: he takes it. He dropped back with the four man washing.
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  Speaker 1: He throws to the back of the ends up for
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  Speaker 1: Cochlind wide open to touchdown for New York. The Jets
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  Speaker 1: have made this a one score game with one fifty
• 1:06:18
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  Speaker 1: thirty two seconds to go in victory formation, he drops
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• 1:06:27
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  Speaker 1: is the ACE ticket. Hut Line Web Radio at Patriots
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  Speaker 1: dot com is the email address. Uh. Sean McLoughlin writes
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  Speaker 1: in He's from Pennsylvania. Quick bullet points one, Sean, where
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  Speaker 1: are you bad man? Yeah? One. I'm sure glad Belichick
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: didn't give up a second and fifth round pick for
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Roquan Smith because I can't wait. Belichick used to that
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  Speaker 1: second round pick for a special team player and fifth
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  Speaker 1: round pick on a kicker. Oh boy, Um yeah, two,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: you guys are not like that. Um, you guys are
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  Speaker 1: not like that. You very objective on this subject. But
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  Speaker 1: shows like the Greg Hill and Maz and Felger and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: most fans are off the Mac Jones train. Look, Grogan
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: had his detractors and his interception before he won fans.
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  Speaker 1: Drew had his Drew Drew had his boy the grammar here.
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  Speaker 1: But Mac has played four games this year, Chicago game. Notwithstanding,
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  Speaker 1: let Mac develop his main Let Mac develop. He has
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  Speaker 1: no punctuation. His main handicap is having Bluto and Chet
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  Speaker 1: from Weird Science as his coaches. I give him till
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  Speaker 1: next year to see what he is. I have faith
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  Speaker 1: in Mac. Okay whatever. Uh And he said, fred, I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: hate this. Keep the silver pants at home until you go,
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  Speaker 1: uh full throwbacks, full time, which is coming sooner than later. Well,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: I think he was drinking when he wrote that. That
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  Speaker 1: was a poorly written. Somebody sent me a helmet with
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: like it's like the white helmet with the old red
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  Speaker 1: and white striping down the middle. But then the flying
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  Speaker 1: Elvis on the sides. It was Yeah, I'd like to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: see the mix. Yeah, I'd like to see that because
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: the Patriots still have an alternate jersey that they could use.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're allowed to have you know, your your
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  Speaker 1: home in a way, you're allowed a throwback and you're
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: out and altered it. Oh what let's go, let's can
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  Speaker 1: we So you're saying that the table is there if
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to put a new jersey into rotique, should
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: do it. You could do it, and not one that
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about. Helmet. Yeah, yeah, well that would be
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  Speaker 1: a third helmet. Well it's the same helmet, it's just
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: got a different decal. Yeah, well it's a it's like
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  Speaker 1: you can mix the two. Yeah. You probably already have
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  Speaker 1: the stickers. You don't even need to buy anything new,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: right spray painting weight? Yeah, I see. Um someone in
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: the Bay Area glad Patriots got to win against the Jets.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Part of me the thought the street could end prior
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: to the game. It may very well have ended if
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: the roughing the pass a penalty didn't negate the Patriots
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: jet picks the Jets pick six. That's what we all said. Anyway,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: who are the five best players of the team right now.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: If I had to rank them, I would say one
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Jude On to Stevenson, three Myers, four Dugger and five mccordy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the four and five spots. Took me
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  Speaker 1: a while to think of. Uh, i'd be different. I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you on the top two. I'd probably put teatrich
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  Speaker 1: Wise in there. I don't think. I don't think mccordy's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: in there. Um, in terms of the way he's played
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: this year, I would agree that that Wise would be four. Yeah, Um,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: I like Myers in there. Yeah, I like Myers at three.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: I would have Wives four, and I would probably Nicko. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we're just talking about how they're playing this year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I have just really scored sixteen year twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Dugger's fine, He's up and down, he's down,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: He's in and out of the lineup with injuries. I
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: think the tight end problems have been existing with him
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: in the lineup and with him out of the lineup. Yeah,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: you'd like to see Barmore in that list, but he's
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: not right now. I don't think he's played great this year,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: but I do think he was playing better when he
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: got hurt. Unfortunately, Yeah he was. Uh, Mike, you're so
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: right about Matt Shenanigans. If Brian burns leg pull the
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: sliding with the cleats up, the fake injury stuff has
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: to go. We need Mac the man, not Mac the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: young boy in the modeling picture with tennis racket. Hey, Matt,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: grow up and stuff. Our team needs to look up
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: and see a leader. Enough with the petulants. The Zappie
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: train in my heart has got a little cold cooking
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: on the engine. Still engine. Yeah, that was, you know,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: coming out of the game. I was kind of just
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: on Mac for for reasons we've talked about, but but
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: that that stuff. I just play the game, you know,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: don't don't try to get calls, don't try to do
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: little little tricky things like I remember play the game.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I think it was the Monday night cam Newton COVID
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: game in Kansas City that Mahomes kind of tried to
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: buy a call out of bounds like that. Then I
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: was like that, that's he's too good for that, right.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, you don't need that like that. I don't.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I don't shouldn't have to do that. You should be
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: able to say that we got out here and we
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: execute what we think we can do, will win. Not man,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: we could really I mean, and I mean I guess
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: in a way I get it, Like you're you sure, dude,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: you know the idea of looking for every little edge
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: you can get. No, not on the way he's doing it. No, No,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I hated when he did it and he was the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: greatest quarterback, saying like he used to do it, and
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: it looks to me so calculating, like the one where
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: we were talking about where it seemed like he was
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: literally knocked out for like a half a second and
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: then and then he pops up and he runs like
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: he's great to like offset any potential? Was he really hurt?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: It's and the same thing when he was going on
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: to bounce, like he kind of pauses for a second,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: like just focus on making the plays. And I'm probably
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: not as bothered by it as Mike is, but I
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: love the rant. But I would also wonder if some
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: of this, like you said it was kid, you used
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: the word calculated, And I'm wondering if maybe go back
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: to this whole how this whole thing started. And he's
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: like I'm hell bent on showing everybody how damn tough
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: I am. You know, So I'm gonna go down, but
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pop up and exaggeratedly run back like there's
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with me. You can't hurt me, Like I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: don't need that. You your teammates know what you are.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: What do you care what anybody else thinks? Well, Joe
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Burrow said it last night pregame. He said that one
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: of the things that he looked at was when Brady
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: got hit in two thousand and two or three, I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: think against the Bills, when he got his helmet knocked off,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: and he was a kid watching that. He goes, That's
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: how I want to be. Heck, yeah, I don't want
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: to stay down. I want to get right back up right.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: And that's and I know it's just it's part of
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: your team's dynamic. You know, it's your team dynamic of
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: we believe in us, we can do what we have
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: to do. And that sends a message to me of
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: like we kind of need to get some calls, like
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I really could really could benefit if I got a
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: fifteen yard or right now and that would help us score.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Like and it hasn't like I can't come up with
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: other examples off the top of my head, but there's
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: been other of this kind. It was like the day
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: after Christmas last year the Buffalo game, when there was
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: like did he get hit? Did he not? David Andrews
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: came over and got really upset about it. Remember it
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: was I think it was at the end of the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: first half. He was completely trying to sell a call
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: and it might have been you know, in this like
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: we talked about that's the problem. Is this so inconsistent
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: with these calls. Maybe it was a call, maybe it
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: should have been a penalty, maybe it wasn't. But the
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: hue and cry like, oh I gotta get that call
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: every time, And I mean, I I don't know, I
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: just don't. I don't like it. Maybe maybe that's what
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: they all do, you know, because yeah, Fred's right, they
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Brady used to do it all the time. I remember
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: all the time. I remember Bill, this is years ago.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: He was on the sideline coaching, and I forget what
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: team we were playing. It might have been the time,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: I forget, but anyway, one of their players got knocked
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: out of bounds on our sideline and Bill like immediately
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: stepped in front of the guy so it would take
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: him an extra second to get back on the field,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, he thinks of everything. He
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: thinks of everything, Like what did he do? The play
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: was going on, the guy gets knocked out out of
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: bounds on our sideline and Bill stepped in front of
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: him so he couldn't get back on the field right away.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: It was like it was like, I was like, wow,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: he thinks of everything. You know, just said extra second
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: could make a difference. Yeah, I just like, I don't
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: know if it's all different. I don't say anything. I
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm embarrassed by that. I I this stuff,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: and like I said, the Brian Burns stuff last year,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like, Oh, it's a rookie. He's
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: just in a pile. He doesn't really know the first
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: time something happened. You can, but when people start over again.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Am I gonna be watching this for ten years? Max,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you used to get and I can't believe
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: it didn't get more attraction. It did live. I thought
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: he kicked the guy in the nuts against Chicago on purpose,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: and I said it in the prices like that was dirty.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Like I it just kind of like flew under the radar.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: No one really talked about it because of the mess
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: that ended up ensuing with with Zappie and Mac. Well,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: what about the philosophy or the mindset. I'm gonna slide
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: and if you're gonna jump on me, you're gonna get
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: a cleat in the face he was jumping over him. No,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I know, but like I'm putting my foot up to
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: keep you from hitting me when it's like a safety
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: issue to me, and I don't have anything. I'm just
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: saying that that might be his mindset. I just want
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the mindset of I'm I'm gonna get play my ass
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: off and I'm gonna beat people with with my play
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: and not because you wouldn't have liked thy cos No,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: what did thy Corda used to like? He used to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: like jump in the air and spike guys, spike. I
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: mean this is war. I mean, who knows there's pictures
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: of it? Yeah I didn't know. Yeah, Um, just just
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: listen to a game with Bob Costas. He'll tell you
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: all about it, like on the radio back in the day,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: or um a sicket hot line five five past five hundred.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Brandon in Oregon. What's up, Brandon? Hey,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: what's going on you? Hey, I was just wondering you
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: guys may have covered this already, but the trade deadlines today, right, Yeah,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: four o'clock. Give me your guys. The top three guys
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: do you think get moved? Well, we don't think anybody will,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: but if they do, we think Win is number one.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Agalore is could be one. But Paul makes a good point.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Why would you trade any of your receivers right now?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: You know you don't eat them all, you need them all,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: and you potentially could you know, Yeah, I wouldn't. I
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: would have been with Freddie. Um. Win would be probably
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: my number one mine. Yeah, I mean odds anyone on
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, or I would say
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: when and then born? Um anyone we acquire on the
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: on the defense. I mean, you know, like you look, okay,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: where are they deep safety? But they've used all those
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: safe you know, Dugger's been in and out. Peppers got
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: hurt a little bit. I could see if Dugger was
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: playing great and those top three were just kind of solidified,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: and Peppers was kind of chomping at the bit behind
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: the scenes. He's getting healthy after last offseason that you know,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: maybe he has some kind of interest around the league.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: As a guy who can do a bunch of things,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: return punts, play special team, he would maybe he would
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: be three. But I agree with you, guys, and this
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: is what I like. I said, this is what I
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: wrote in the notes today, like I wouldn't trade any
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: of them, but maybe when born Peppers, if a team
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: wanted to give you a two for Zappie, would you
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: do it in a heartbeat? I think you even got
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Brandon to laugh. He could fall. I think Fred's here
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: to see if I can have a heart attack. Thanks Brandon,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Brad and the Eastern Shore. Brad. Hey,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: happy Tuesday, guys. Hey you're feeling better, mister douth, Thanks
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. I watched the entire game, as I have
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: for forty years. Um, nothing seems smooth when Mac is
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: on the field this year, and that's the only way
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: I can say it. I said it to my dad
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: last week at the beginning of the game, since he
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: was able to watch it on Monday Night's football. Nothing
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: is smooth, and I just don't understand how we can
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: just go week after week and it just doesn't change.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I think du said that he's looking for something to
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: move the needle and we're just stuck in neutral. But
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: it's the smoothness. Everything is jerky. Everything is a grinds.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: I say, it's a grind. Everything's a grind with the office,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: And I mean it's like four point two yards of play,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: and that's what you know, four yards four yards. I mean,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: it's just it's it's I mean they have they've had
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: some plays here and there. I mean Stevenson has made
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: the most of them. But I agree they got to
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: find a rhythm with that really plays designed the place
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: that he made. Yep, you know that's a good way
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: to put it, you know. Yeah, if we didn't have Remandre,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: who I was so thrilled Fred when I came down
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: and met you in Atlanta last year. I got to
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: stop him on the street and talk to him for
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: about five minute. If we didn't have Remandra, right now,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know where this team would be. And as
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: hard as as much as Paul is cringing right now
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: talking about a running back being the debut of a team,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: I honestly don't know where we'd be without him. On offense,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: you'd be four and four, boy, I don't see. How
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: do you think it won that game without reminder Stevenson
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: they had yet two days ago. Yep, because I'm assuming
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: everything happened the other way. Did everything happened the same
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: way because you took over in field goal range enough
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: times to win game? And if and I don't think
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Fromondre Stevenson had anything to do with all the picks, No,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I mean, I just think that
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: there's also a psychological level of making no player. I'm
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: not taking anything away from Stevenson's effort in the game,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: but I think they would have won the game. I
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: think Stevenson right now, they'd be they'd be two and six, okay,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: because I think they'd be four and four. He has
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: single handedly carried that team down the field on a
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: number of occasions. He's been great. Hasn't done that many
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: times because they don't go down the field very many times.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I like Stevenson. I love Stevenson. I think he's the
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: best player on the team. I think it's illustrating how
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: much trouble I think they're in. Yeah, all right, Brad,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: thank you. And by the way, I read Brad's father's blog,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: and his father's blog said, you know that nothing is
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: smooth with Mac Jones, according to a source, So now
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: I know who the source was with bradis his dad's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: gonna blog? I'm only kidding. Oh that was pretty good.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: That's like two shows in a row. You got me, John,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: You got there with the Tony Robbins thing last week.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: John at Duxbury. What's up, John, gentleman? How are you? John? Hey? John? Yeah?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: I want you. I want to talk about the Jets game.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: But please tell me what team is stupid enough to
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: give up anything to have win. I don't think you
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: can find any team well to find anything. But here's
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: the thing. You know, you know when was the first
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: round pick, he was obviously a good player, you know
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: in Georgia and right, and you have these teams, and
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are one of them. Were like, we'll take
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: that guy and we'll make them. I would say that
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of that mindset and a team that's
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: really struggling on the offensive line. You know, I would
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: are like the Patriots, but like like like the Raiders
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: or like the Bengals, why wouldn't they say, you know,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: we'll give you a conditional six. I think the Raiders
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: is a great one. They already took just in harun
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: and then he got hurt. So when just now, I
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: mean Fred's you know, I know, Fred was was poking
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: the bear a little bit to try to get a
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: rise out of me. I don't think they're gonna get
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: a first or second round pick or anything, but you know,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: you could, You'll get a late you could get a
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: late round pick for him. Condition I'd be surprised. And
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: I want to give a thumbs up to a one
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: who I think he was the only one that didn't
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: give up a stack against the Jets. I don't think
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: he gave up a pressure either. Yeah, that's actually not
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: how you pronounced it anymore too. Yeah, I don't believe
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: that sound. I don't know. It was the most particular
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: wing ever. They pronounced it about six different ways during
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: the game, and then they told everybody that we've been pronouncing.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: They were like chuckling to themselves like it's actually on one,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: you know what, Like it's some weird like they protected
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: they like ignored the end altogether. Like we say, when
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: you it's already been established, this is established law here
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: here three we're probably we're probably doing it wrong. But
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: by the time we need to learn. He won't be
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: a Patriot anymore anyway. So it's Chandler Jones handling shit.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: That's only la Garrett Blount, those are all you problem.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey Eldred, Hey fellas like y'all
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: doing today? Hey, pol won't apologize done to the post
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: game A pre game I said the joke wrong. The
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: joke was, could we trade could we get a sucker
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: round for office court data? An office line? Coach? Oh
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: just was killing the Patriots right now, you know, because
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: you can't do both. You can't be collar and then
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: coach officers line, and you're getting beat like it every week.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be you ain't straightened up to line, you
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: ain't doing it. I'm gonna be suck up Pollie again, Fred?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: You ready? Yeah? The guign because how do you think
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: the offensive line like they had a really bad first
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: game against Miami, and how do you think it was
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: like the next day five weeks started to get a
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: little better. It was okay, right yeah, and then you
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: look then you then you lose some personnel and you
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: have a really bad game against the Jets. Okay. And
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: the reason I say this is it wasn't Matt Patricia
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: who decided to trade or lose two of his starting
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman, And it wasn't Matt Patricia's fault that a
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: third one went down with injuries. So basically the line
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: that you had last year was without three starters on
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Sunday Shack Mason, Ted Carris and David Andrews. It Also,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think was Matt Patricia's idea to switch your
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: tackles from right to left. That's okay. So the offensive
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: line is having some problems right now. They're injury related
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: and their personnel related, for sure. I'm like, is that
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia's fault? Like, I know, I come off as
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: a suck up. I'm more concerned about different things than that.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I go back. I'm also concerned about to
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: play Colin and like Matt like he just like he
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: just scared to death. He's got taken to all the reas.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Yeah, I worry more about the
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: quarterback then I do who's calling the plays, and I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: worry more about the the I guess just the confidence
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: level in the quarterback. I was really shook by the
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: sequence of events after the pick six that was overturned.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, we can't. You can't
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: play like that. Like, so the next play after the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: pick six, they ran the ball down inside the five
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: and go call back for a Cole strange holding call
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: by the way, um so it ended up setting up
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: a long yard and situation dive dive, kneel on the ball, Like,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: what are we doing with with with two time outs?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: What are we doing We're not even trying to score
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think they were shook. I think they
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: were like, let's just take the three. They weren't. They
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: weren't as shook as I was. And we'll get the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: ball to start the second. But are you better off, like,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: like for the betterment of Mac Jones, aren't you better
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: off trying to figure out what what you know? What
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: can he do? Well? Maybe in that moment they saw
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: something I don't know, you know, like Key was rattled
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: a little. I don't know. I just think it's a
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: stark contrast too with like, and I know that different
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: offenses and all that when in different defenses, but like,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: you know, when Zappie went in, like it looked functional,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: like in a way that I don't think it's looked
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: functional with Mac. Now is that on them and the
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: offenses and the play calls that they're doing. I don't know,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: but at least shows me that somewhere in there there's
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: a functional offense that looks like the one I had
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: my whole rant about. Like some guys, some guys just
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: get breaks. Some guys, you know, through no fault to
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: their own, things happen, good fortune follows them. I think
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: this is an example of it. Everybody you know just said,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago, stiff, stiff, stiff, except
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: for one of those three stiffs had the third ranked
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: past defense in football, Chicago. That's what Matt got to
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: start against. Followed by the Jets. Yeah. Oh, I don't
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: care what anyone says. That's a good defense. I watched
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: them on Sunday. That was good defense. I think. Listen,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not like telling you Mac Jones is the next star,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: because you guys know, I don't think that. But I
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: think if Bailey Zapp he played on Sunday, it would
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: have been similar. It could have been double digit sacks
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: in four or five turnovers. Yeah, because I think Mac
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: made you know, a lot of good plays to avoid
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: disasters now, Paul in the dark camp. Yeah, but I
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: didn't tell I didn't tell you that I saw. I
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: thought he was a disaster. When I watched the game,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: I saw the third down conversions, and we talked about
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: this in the post game. I'm a little hurt that
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: you didn't listen to the post game, but that's okay.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: We talked about the third down conversions. Now they completely
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: went away. Where I cut ties with the pro offense
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: crowd is somehow there's this notion that they got it
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: all together at the half and came out it got
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: worse in the second half. They didn't convert any third
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: downs in the second half. I think they were six
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: for nineteen in the game, and I think all of
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: them came in the first half. They had one hundred
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: and twenty yards of offense in the second half, and
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: that was despite taking over constantly on the jet side
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: of the field. The only reason why they scored points
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: is because of the way they were getting the ball.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: If they had gotten the ball at their own twenty
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: would have had more yards because they didn't have the opportunity. No,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: they were going three and out. Every possession of they
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: would have lost. If they took over on their own
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: twenty This is what I'm talking like. They Mac Jones
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: faced a much much more difficult task on Sunday than
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy did in Cleveland. Oh Yeah, Ford and Savannah
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Georgia Hello World, original podcast, Hello Back. You are also
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: the world's best podcast, hands down. Thank you. Do you
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: think max sophomore slump is a direct result of line
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: play from this in last year. I saw him take
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of hits last year like a champ, but
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: unfortunately they have continued this year, leading to two injuries.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: My fears he is the making of a baby David
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: car scenario. Ps Belichick through the Bears game to get
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: a historic win against the Jets. I have a source
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: in the building. Since anyone can say that now, well,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, he's just not seeing it. He doesn't look comfortable.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know where to h no. And I mean
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: if you get pounded on, eventually, it's on the trust issue.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: And when you see guys get beat you know, I mean,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: it's one thing to have a mental lapse and you
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: allow a free rusher to come in those things. You know,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: all right, that's a miscommunication. But when your guys are
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: just physically getting dominated. It's a lot more disconcerting to say, hey,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: we can clean up when we just made a mental error.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: But when you just simply can't compete physically with certain
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: guys off the edge. I mean that's you know, especially
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: where that's where you got guys screaming in. I mean,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: it's off his blind side. I get it, I get
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: I just would like to see Mac have a little
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: bit more. Um. I don't think patience is the right word,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: but having a little bit more pocket awareness to step up,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: make a little shuttle subtle shuttle, little subtle shift here
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: to your right, find a guy and deliver the ball
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: and not you know, the second the pocket breaks down,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: be looking to get out or panicking. One thing, I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: was thinking about what he said. You know, at the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: you know, when Big Daniels left, everybody was, you know, wondering,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: oh will they bring in Bill O'Brien, And it seemed like,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: you know, there was this courtesy to the out to
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: sabing that you know, I'm not going to pick him
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: off right now, but do you think that you know,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Patricia is just a placeholder until O'Brien comes next year.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: I think about that friend, I mean I think about
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: all those positions because I think, do you bring in
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: an offensive line coach? You know, do you do you say, hey,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna take something off Patricius. You don't
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: bring in Bill O'Brien. Instead, you bring in a you know,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: another offensive line coach to take some of that off
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: of his plate. You know, do you round out the
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: staff in that with the offensive staff in that way?
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a fair question, and then you know,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: it's an acknowledgement of it. Did it not work in
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two? Is that why you're making these changes now?
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Did was that a poorly executed plan or a poorly
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: you know plan plan? Um? I don't know. I guess
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see, you know, kind of where
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: things end up. But it's like the bar is so
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: low right now with this offense that like it's not
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: hard for them to look maybe a little bit more
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: than competent at the end of the year and say,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: all right, well they got better, it got better. They
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: look like they're on I actually think that there's been
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: signs that the offensive line, I mean, I'm sorry, the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: offensive play calling situation has improved. I think they're I'm
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: always going to complain about individual calls. I think they've
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: grown way too reliant on that third and long draw
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: because it worked once, okay as an example, but it
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: ain't a penalty if they don't call it. Right the
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: fourth and one from the five good play design. You're
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: gonna get Hunter Henry to block Sas Gardner in the
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: end zone so Jacoby Myers can leak into the flat.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: It ain't a penalty if they don't call it. Same
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: thing with one of the third down conversions on a
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: third and long in the first half, shallow crossed by
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers right into Hunter Henry in Vermandre Stevenson, who
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: are already engaged in blocking because they were in his zone.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: The Jets played a ton of zone in that game,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: and they're already engaged as blockers. That's good play design,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: like that's that's good good play calling. You know you're
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: not going to be able to drop back on third
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: and eleven against that rush and find a guy breaking
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: seventeen yards down field for a first down. You got
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: to throw some underneath in. You know, Jona Smith had
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: had some yards after the catch to convert one. Myers
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: did a couple of times. Um, I'm not telling you
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: it's been great. I don't like it. I still don't
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: like what they're doing. I think they made it hard
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: on themselves intentionally, just like the whole like yanking Mac
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: Jones out of the game Monday night, created something on
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: their own. But I do think there are signs that
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: things that have gotten better in some of those operational situations.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: All right, optimistic Paul, because I can be fair about it.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Back to the A stick of the line five hundred
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Chris with a T, I A N. What's that Christian?
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, Um, I think I've been listening to the
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: show long enough for I can say with confidence, says
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Brad's call and then falls response about if they have him,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: And two weeks from now or maybe even like tomorrow,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: somebody will call an email and say, oh yeah, instantly
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: playing like Grand Theft Auto. I'll tell you, I'll tell
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: you what it will be, Christian. Someone will go on
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: Twitter and tweet Ramadre Stevenson and say that I was
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I said he was irrelevant when I said no, you
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: know at PFW, Paul said that you had nothing to
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: do with any of the wins, which is not what,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: which is not at all what I said. But someone
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: will do that on Twitter because that's what they do.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: That's what they do on Twitter. Elon Musk Twitter. Now, yeah,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: maybe things will change now that you have an adult
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: in the room. But we'll see. I think it's gonna be.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Everything's okay now, Jeremy Fowler's reporting the Patriots do not
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: plan to move Isaiah Wynn. Oh. So there it is.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: So i'd expect him. It is so, I'll see that
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: one for off air, but I would expect him to
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: be very much in play by the four o'clock trade deadline.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Did you just say that, Wow, you don't put much
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: stock into Jeremy Fowler. I no, I do. I'll tell
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: you why I say what I said. Out to it.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I think Jeremy Fowler does a good job. Don't add
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Fouler PFW Paul thinks, No, No, I think he does.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: I think he does a really good job. I think
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that's tapped in around the league.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what I why I said what
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: I said. Okay, all right off here, and just as
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: far as Sunday he goes. I find it hard at
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: least at least for me to come out of their
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: feeling good about really much of anything. I just feel
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: like it was another game that just raised more questions
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: and answers. And Paul, I'm with you about the play calling.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: It seems like it there's a little bit more, you know,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: to it, and and there's more people, you know, look
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: at the film and you know, tweat stuff that the
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: concepts are there and the plays are there to be made.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: I haven't actually had a tweet about that, you know,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: the other day there was a film review that you know,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: the plays are there more. I feel all that stuff.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm sort of in the camp with everybody else,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: like I Mac. It just looks lay too funky. And
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: I'm psyched about Stevenson. I'm psyched about Jack Jones, you know,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Dietrits six Jump Awesome. You were on playing great. But
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: there's a part of me seep down inside that kind
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: of just can't wait for this year to be over
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: because I just don't think they're going anywhere. And I
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: it's a the fetus, you know, view to have, but
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: that's kind of just how I feel are even with
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: the a f G being, you know, not as good
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: as we thought it would be. I don't necessarily take
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: us wide open, but ye kind of work. See. That's
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: the thing is I wonder what people Yeah, and I
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: kind of agree with Christian, but I wonder what people
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: were thinking heading out all right hitting into I think
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: that I don't think the AFC is wide open, like
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: like Christian just said, I don't think it's wide open
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: at all. I think there are two clear cut teams,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: and I don't think there's always two clear cut teams.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: It could be wide open for the wild card, yeah,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: but I think that's I think most people felt that.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: Now what you could maybe say, I thought like a
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Denver would be much better than the Patriots, and they
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: haven't been right right, you know. I think the Raiders
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: were kind of on the cusp. I would think the
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: Raiders would be better Chargers, the Raiders would better than
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are exactly what I think most people.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: They're like a five hundred and nine and eight ten
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: and seven kind of naughty, same kind of thing, you know,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: Like I think that those like everybody is in a bunch,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: but I don't understand like maybe the Jets are better
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: than obviously no one had the Jets at five and three.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: But I think everybody's bunched together, and I just wonder, like,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: how did you think it was going to separate? There
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: was gonna be like seven thirteen win teams in seven
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: four win teams, And I think a lot of people
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: thought the Colts were gonna be better. See, I don't.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: You don't think they were going to be better. No,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: I think that they were going to be better with
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, But I don't think a lot of people
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: thought they were going to be like any thread. No.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: But the people they just got nudged out of the
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: playoffs and they're gonna be the same exact team this year.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be worse. I don't. But I mean,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: what about the quality of the play though, I mean,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: aside from the records, I think the quality Fred will
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: tell you this. I think the quality of player in
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: the league has been awful for like I'm going on
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: fifteen years, awful ever since the Patriots started getting good. No,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I put it. I'm sorry if I
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: look at the first iteration of the dynasty as being
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: far more impressive, I think that was far more impressive.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: I think they had to go through and be much
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: better teams instead of having a double buy like you
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: did the second part of the dynasty. You had to
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: beat like League MVP Steve McNair in the Division round
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: at home against Tennessee. That to me that that's tough.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Then having to beat you know, Pittsburgh on the road
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: as a fourteen and two team playing a fifteen and
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: one team, That that that's a challenge. Not playing the
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: brockofs Wilder Houston Texans in a playoff game, yeah, you know,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: and who were only there because Derek Carr broke his
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: leg the week before and Houston ends up beating the
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Raiders in a playoff game. I'm just I'm I never
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: in a hundred years would have thought that the Raiders,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, and the Broncos would all be No, you
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: thought that that act powerhouse. I would have thought one
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: team would have been been better out of those those three. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: but didn't know who. Fair, I didn't know who. Yeah,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: but fair your thought and you probably not so much
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: the charge because the charges of four and three, right, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, that's that's charge. You're central, that's
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: where they always are. Four and three, five and four years,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe six and four and a couple end
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: of game decisions. Yeah, that's where they always are. I
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: would have thought either the Raiders or the Broncos would
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: be much better than they are. Yeah, I think that's fair.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have thought the Jets would be as
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: good as they had Patty and Aga on what's up Patty? Yeah.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: If I'm justin Herbert, I'm getting the hell out of
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: Lapp when his contracts done, Ricky deal has done, I
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: would I would take him. Actually, oh, I would take
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: them all day. Yeah, I'm close on him to just
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: tapping out close to cut and ties. I think he
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: might be part of the problem. Um uh not the
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: non sect order on the MAC, but uh, go ahead.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Last year, do you guys feel like he um he
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: actually stood in the pocket. Maybe he had a little
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: bit more confidence than the line because to me, it
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: is like just from I don't know if my memory
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: serving me correctly, but it seemed like he was more
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: willing to hang in the pocket and take take the
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: hit that he knew was coming than he does this year.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I think he did at first, towards the end of
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: the season. I think he got skittish again. I mean,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: I would just say I walked. I took a look
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: back just at the highlights of the last year's Colts game,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: and I mean it looked different to me. He looked
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: like a different stretch for every game, and they got
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: hammered in that. He wasn't good. He wasn't in that
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: good in that game, but he at least, you know,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: just like I said, like is willing to take a
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: step and deliver the ball. And my amateur psychologist view
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: when he was a rookie, he came in after having
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: absolutely immaculate protection of Alabama. You don't know what you
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: don't know, and it's like that's what you do. You
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: drop back there and you don't end of anybody around you.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: And as the year went on, he started getting hit.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: As this year opened, he was getting hammered, untouched. Rushers
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: in Miami could be NFL. The defensive lineman hit hard,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: so they're allowed to hit you here. Yeah. No, A
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: very amateur psychologists kind of like that though. You don't
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: know what you don't know, and then you get in
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: you start to get rattled. And I think that that
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: speaks to a lot of quarterbacks that get into the
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: league and kind of come in as mister everything, and
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get humbled a little bit.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: You're getting hit a little bit. Someone sent something to
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: ask PFW earlier, Mike, you know, saying, is there anything
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: to the theory that Zappy has looked better with these
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: guys because they are a dramatic upgrade from what he
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: worked with at Western Kentucky as opposed to mac whiteness
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: around him at every spot. I didn't make it. I'm
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: crediting a guy who wrote into our mail backs. It's funny, Paul.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: I can't help but think that kind of some along
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: those lines. When I was watching the Battle of the Eagles,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're they're an SEC All Star team,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: Like they have all SEC All Stars all over their offense,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, and their defense has played well too.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it should get bets how it
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: should look when you robert really good players from the
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: best league, and you know, I think something they're saying,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: put again the NFC, the only good teams are and
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: they didn't include the Eagles. Someone said there's only oh no,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: there's only two teams that are really good. The Bills,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: in the Chiefs. I'm like, oh, in the AFC, No,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, oh no. And it's like the Eagles
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: are good, the Cowboys are good. Yeah, absolutely, yeah like this.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think what you want about Dallas exact.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: They have a bosover a coach and Jerry Jones will
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: medal whatever. Yeah, they're good, Michael Parsons, that's a good team.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: Cody's in Baltimore. Hey, Cody, Hey, guys, good, good afternoon. Yeah.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Um so, I know the subject is being as death,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: but I'm calling to discuss Zappy and Matt Jones. Uh specifically,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: I really didn't like the dismissal of Zappy after one
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: bad half football. The office looks more alive Sappy. I
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: know it's the small sample size, but he looks decisive
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: and sharper in his brows in a way that Matt
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: seems to be regressing. I'm secret seeing Mac he uses
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: legs to pick up first downs, and I just don't
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: understand why they didn't choose to continue to go at
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: the hot hand and start Zapp against the Bears. And
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: now I feel like we're married and Matt Jones and
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: his turnovers, it was indecisive. Miss why didn't. Why did
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: we lose State and Zappy so quickly? I would actually
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: say they did the opposite of that. I think they
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: rode Zappy out until the hot hand cooled off. I
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: think if Zappy played well for the rest of that
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Chicago game PDA played, I think he cooled off and
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: they said, Okay, that's we think the other guy's better.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: This guy just played five straight series and didn't even
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: cross his forty yard line. Yeah, I think that one's
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: worn off a little bit. I think they did ride
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: the hot hand. I think that's why they played Zappy
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: in the Monday night game because I think they were
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: looking to go back to the hot hand, and I
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: think no one can speak to like what they want
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: to do with the offense that they want to be
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: and how do they get there. I don't think they
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: get there with Bailey Zappy. They get with Mac if
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Mac plays the way they think Mac might be. And
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: in fairness, I don't know if they get there with Mac.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know either, but but um I would agree
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: with Mike's premise that Mac has a better skill set
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean doesn't make him a better player, because we've
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: seen guys with Leiser skill sets that get the job done.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Like I think no one would argue that Carson Wentz.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: No one would argue that Carson Wentz is a more
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: talented player than Taylor. Heineke gets the job done, but
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Washington comes, you know, comes in. He won two games.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was good in either game, but
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: you won them. Yeah, and that's why some ways, like
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: I see Mac as uh, you know, it's kind of
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: like a quintessential Patriot performance this week of it's not flashy,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: does what he needs to do to get just enough
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: to make it happen, you know. And so I think
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: that they like that to a degree. I think that
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: that does some credit to Mac. But but it's just
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: it's got to get to a next level where you're
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: not just surviving. And I think he said on the
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: postgame show, sometimes it feels like you're surviving your own offense.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: Mike was all over. They started the game, Fred like
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: even some of this quote unquote successful drives. It was,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: you know, twelve plays, you know, fifty two yards, like
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: third down, down, and you're moving the chains by like
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: a chain link every time. It's like it's never like
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: third and two we pick up seventeen. It was just
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: a slog every even the successful plays where and I
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: think that goes back to UM. I think it was
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: the last call. Maybe a speed, but you know it
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: just it's a grind. If you if you added up
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: consecutive first downs by Mac running on the play that
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: they got hit by C. J. Mosley, H John ou
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Smith with the yards after the catch in the in
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: one of those shallow crosses by Myers, you probably didn't
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: get those three first downs by a combined length of
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: the football. Now, it doesn't matter how much you get
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: it by you move the chains. But it's a hard
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: way to live, is the point. H. Greg's in California.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: What's up? Greg? Hey, guys, So you're just talking about
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: how you think if anyone in our quarterback room could
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: unlock whatever potential the offense has its back. But I
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: don't think I think the sample size is big enough
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: at this point that he's displayed to mistake Brown when
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: they try to unlock whatever potential the offense might have.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: And I honestly would feel better if we just tried
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: to pursue another quarterback at this point. I don't know
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: if you guys agree with that or not. I agree
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: with it. I mean, I agree with the part that
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: the mistakes are unacceptable, and the mistakes are going to
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: undercut anything that you believe or want to believe about
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: mac Jones. If he continues to turn the ball over
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: and throw bad picks, it's it's not going to continue.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: It's not They're not going to continue down that road.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: And that's a bottom line for me. Good Mike, Michael Lombardi,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: good job. I would know you sounded just like Michael Lombardi.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: If continue to turn the ball over, he's not going
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: to play. I would also say, um, I, Greg, I
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: sort of share a lot of your concerns. I would
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: push back a little on the samples eyes. I don't
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: think that. I think there's been guys that are still
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: sort of in that is he Ori is any category
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: after twenty five games. I don't think this is like
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: the be all considering all the changes that they've been
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: through the year. One. The injury too, like the injury
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: too like to rails him a little bit had he
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: had continuity. And if you're asking me to put my
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: hand on a bible and tell tell you what I
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: think now, I don't think he's the guy, but that
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean I think we've known that for sure. I
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: think he deserves more time just because the injury and
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: all the chaos is giving him an excuse with some people.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: But he was playing like crap before the injury and
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: all that. So I just think he kind of peeked in,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: Like but I don't think he played like crap on Sunday.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I don't think he played like
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: crap Sunday. I think he was really he was under
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: siege the whole game. Thanks. Great. So here's the thing
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: that I keep thinking about. This offense hasn't looked right since,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: not even priests training camp, Like they weren't even doing
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: it right in training camp. It hasn't looked right yet.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: So is that Mac, You know what I mean? Like
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: like there was problems with the offense as a whole
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: since training camp, you know, and like so yeah, well
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: I know, And that's and I keep going back to
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: like the zappy thing, and I know all the qualifiers
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: for who was playing and what the situation was, but
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: it was like that was the only time this year
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: that you just watched it looked like an offense that
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: was like running it and knew what they were doing
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: and completing plays and just you know, kind of had
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: a rhythm to it. And it's just like our callers
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: have said it, it feels sporadic. It feels a grind,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: and that's why are they gonna get there? I really
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: don't know. Still, I really don't. Hey, what did you
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: guys think? I know what you know? Still talking about
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: the Jets, right, what did you guys think of the
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: decisions to pass up field goals on the two fourth downs?
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: One worked and one didn't. On the first one, I said,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: take the pool points. That's what I was saying, Take
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: that because this that's the type of about the second one.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: At that point, I think I said go for it,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: but I can't remember. I know, I know on the
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: first one, I was like, just take them. I thought
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: they should have kicked both field goals. I think the
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: game had declared it was going to be, you know, yeah,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: if you could get to twenty, you're gonna win. You
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: didn't need a lot of points in that game, right,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: And I think passing up points both times was risky.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: I just think I was at a point where I
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: like seeing them put in situations where they have to
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: deliver or fail, and you know, I'm just I know,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: if you're going big picture, I a thousand percent agree
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: with you, that's I think. But I'm trying to win
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: the game. I'm just going by winning the game. And
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: if they didn't get the second one, you might have lost. Yeah,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: like you take seven points away, and I'm not saying
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: that you take seven from twenty two, you lose the game,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: you know, seventeen to fifteen. It doesn't work that way.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: The whole game changes. But that was potentially, you know,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: you take six points away from you by not taking
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: two chip shot field goals. That's I think that was
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: unnecessary risk in a game that you didn't need a
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: lot of points in. I mean, do you think that
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: that that that has an impact on Mac when you
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: start to do those things and you just start to
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: not not even go forward on And I think that
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: he pulled back the aggressiveness a lot. No, And I
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: just think that you you know, it's an easy that's
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: an easy fix. You know, start making the plays on
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: third down and we won't have to be put in
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: these situations like I mean, it's it's it's really don't
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: like it. It's really simple. Um, And I know Mac
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: was adamant about going for the second one I started.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: He was gesturing to the sideline, we're going forward. He
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: was all, you know, for tough guy. Um, but I
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: just think that the number one thing for the code
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: should be what is in the best interest of the
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: team to win today, not like anything you should be
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: talking about winning Marvin and Kerner's that's what's what I
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I agree with you, Fred. Why are
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: we assuming that BILLYO was even wanting to come back
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: to New England instead of taking a head coach job
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: at say Carolina. No, I mean, listen, if he gets
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: offered a head coach job, he takes that. But I
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: don't think he's coming back here. And I think that
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: the way I think, Mike you put this is when
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: I was coming back in from my little potty break. Um,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like an admission that you have to
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: do it all over again. And I don't think that
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: that's something A that's in their DNA. But b you
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: could make an argument it's not the best interest to
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Mac yeah, to have your third offensive coordinator in three years.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: I think if anything, that's why I said, if you,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: if you just bring in the offensive line coach and
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: you just let Maddie Peep become the offensive coordinator, then
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: that's not a tacit admission of failure, but it's at least,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: you know, like a reshuffling, a restructuring of the coaching staff.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: And pretty deep in Charlotte, North Carolina was about to
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: ask the question and Paul was talking about it as well.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: Looking back at the movement of Win from left tackle
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: to right tackle, was it a good move? I mean,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: when was not that this bad? When he was playing?
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: I would agree with that he was a service He
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: was serviceable at left when he's not serviceable at right tackle. Yeah,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: and why haven't? I mean, I wonder if that conversation
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: has come up, did we flop him? You know? I
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: mean it was all, oh, you know, gonna balance it out.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have power on that side, the athleticism on
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: this side. Like, do you think that's why they I
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I don't know why they
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: did it. But whatever benefit that they thought they were
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: going to reap from it, do you think they've reaped
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: that benefit? No? So, and you know that you know,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Brown's okay at right side, and I'd be willing to
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: listen to anything as to the reason why. That's as
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: plausible as anything. I was wondering if maybe they'd wanted
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: to see if they could further engage Trent Brown by
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: moving him to the left side. I don't think that's worked.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: I think he's the opposite. He's the same apathetic guy
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: that he had always has been. Um you know some
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: games he has. I think he played well. So, like
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: I said, I didn't notice him with any egregious breakdowns
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: on Sunday the week before. I did. Did he not
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: have a penalty diet sheets for this one? I think
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: he had a clean sheet. I don't think he tackles
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: had a clean sheet, didn't they Yeah, well, you the
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: right tackle would have had to hit somebody. But I
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: don't think there were any penalties on the tackles. No,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: they were on Strange. Strange had two holding calls. I
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: think Matt and Devin uk I know that we won
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: the game, but I need you guys to talk me
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: down as I'm on the ledge. We only won this
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: one because Wilson is one of the worst quarterbacks I've
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: ever seen, and the Jets peed themselves after the roughing
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: the passer penalty in the first half. Before that point,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: they were killing us. Why are we so bad? I
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: know that we've got a few good players across some positions,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: but mac is still throwing the ball to the other
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: team could have ended with at least three picks, including
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: the pick six on the day, our old line might
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: as well not be there. And before Wilson started peeing
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: down his leg, the Jets offense was making our d
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: look amateurish. Talk me down. I'd only pushed back on
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: the last point of I mean they blew some they
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: blew a couple coverage, there's no question, but I don't
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think they've ever looked the amateurist except maybe
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson Field I thought, I mean, not amateurish,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: but I thought they The Jets offense was better than
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: the Patriots defense for the balance of the first half
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: until that pick. Because the Jets are you have to
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: take into consideration what you're dealing with. It's not a
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: good offense, and they were on the verge of putting
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: thirteen on the board with one throw, like they're gonna
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: be over midfield plenty of time. They're probably gonna get points.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: But even the ten that's more than they score. They
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: do not score that team, and they were without their
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: best players. They were out their best receiver, their best
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and their best running back, and they were
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: moving the ball. Like I said, they had like four
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: hundred yards of offense in this game. And Zach Wilson
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: for as bad as he was through for three fifty five.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: And I just I don't know if you can understate
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: what Bruce Hall was to that team early in the
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: season when you watch those games and the impact that
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: he had with big play. I mean, everybody talking about
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson, like I just say, if the Patriots would
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: have lost without Stevenson, like, well, how do you think
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: the Jets feel like? If I'm wrong and they wouldn't
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: be formed for without Stevenson, how do you think the
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: Jets feel if if they had Bruce Hall? Do you
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: think they felt like they would have won that game?
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: And I think they looked at the Patriots run defense
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: and said, we would have had some opportunities and maybe
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: instead of running the ball fifteen times, if they had
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Breeze Hall, they would have been more content to do that.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: They had a guy in Robinson that they just got
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: and I don't think they feel comfortable just lining up
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Michael Carter as a running back for more than a
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: handful of touches. I think there were times that they
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: know they stored it through some holes. They didn't run
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: it enough. That's the bottom line. If they had just
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: run it ten more times and taken ten of those
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: passes away, maybe among those ten passes or a couple
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: of the mistakes. Neil and new Brunswick, you've all agreed
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: that you can't pencil and wins. I agree, but with
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: that we have to accept the other side of that
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: is you can't complain when you win but you don't
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: like the way it looked. Only really good teams with
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: high expectations get to do that. For us, a win
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: is a win, no matter how Congratulations to Bill a
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: number two all time I was on the Zappi train.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: Nothing changed for me Sunday. The offense with Mac under center,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: it feels like they're playing on a sheet to ice.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: That's the way I can describe it. It just doesn't
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: look right. That doesn't mean Zappy is anything in this league.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: I just enjoy watching the offense more when Zappy is
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. I don't buy the reason for calling plays
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: based on the quarterback because the weapons don't change. Maybe
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: our weapons are suited for the zappy playbook. I like
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: the offense better when they play against the Lions. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: I mean the Lions and Browns have bad have bad defenses.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: I like the way the offense looked in those games
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: better than they did against, yeah, the Jets, and that's
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens. It's totally fair that who they
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: were playing. But I just I'm with a part of
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: this of just I can't shake that. How can it
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: go from looking so clunky to least like kind of
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: functional even against the bad decase. So, I mean you
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: could go out there seven on seven and it looked
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: like the same as we're seeing rain. Let's flip it
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: in the last five minutes. How do you feel the
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: defense looks against, say, the Jets, as opposed to the
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: way it looked against Baltimore. Right, it's the same thing.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: The defense look clunky against a bad offense, I mean
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: against a good offense, right, But it's dominant against Zach Wilson,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the team that's throwing the ball to them.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: I mean not exactly dominant, No, but I'm saying, like,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: you know, think about the performances that they've had over
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: the year, you know, like everybody, you know, we heard
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: it again today because we're getting ready to head into
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: the bye. Oh the bye. I'm not sure that's the
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: right thing. Look what happened after the bye last week?
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: Last year? What happened they played better team? They played
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: better teams Zebra Jacksonville who they blistered. I just, you know,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: I guess this is part of me that thinks that
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: there's a level of execution that I just I saw
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: out of the offense during that stretch that I just
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: haven't seen, whether they were going against air or nothing
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: like the training can't practice. Let's let's face it, the
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Patriots are a mediocre team. They're not a good team.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: A good team is consistently good. Until you're consistently good,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: you're not good. They're good some days they're not bad.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: And a lot of it depends on the opponent it
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: and until they figure out the offense in mac they're
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: not going to be a consistently good team, you know.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: So that's just where we are right now. I agree
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: with it. We're working through it. Yeah, I mean, I
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: guess then in that in that regard, I just want
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: to see mac Jones against a bad defense and see
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: them like somebody I don't want to see right like that.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: That won't tell me, that won't tell me crazy. I
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: want to see them play well against a good team.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: I'm with Fred, Yeah, I need to see a progression.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: That's why this second half of the season is critical.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: And I want them to stick with Matt through thick
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: and thin, do a Miami thing to see I want
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: to see what only like that, and that's like pieing
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: the sky to me right now, like I would just
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: want to see them light up Jacksonville for fifty points.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that you're gonna learn anything definitive,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: but at least for one time in two sense of
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: security if that's fine, but at least at least I
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: know I think you have it, because I don't know
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: that they have it in them at this time. I
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: need to see. I'm expecting another low scoring, tight game
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: against the Colts, but I think they blow the Colts
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: out because they're playing a kid. They're making his second start,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: first career road start, and I think he could turn
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: the ball over four times in the first five possessions,
• 1:58:07
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