Latest / UK HealthCast / Improving How We Care For Heart Valve Disease
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- 0:05Nolan Alexander (Host): Welcome to UK HealthCast, a podcast
- 0:08presented by UK healthcare.
- 0:10I'm Nolan Alexander, and joining me today is Dr.
- 0:13Peter Hegg.
- 0:15A non-invasive cardiologist from the UK Gill Heart and Vascular Institute.
- 0:21We are here to dive into an important conversation about heart valve disease
- 0:25and explore the newly structured heart valve program at UK Healthcare.
- 0:30Well, Dr.
- 0:30Hag, how are you today?
- 0:32Peter Haigh, MD: I'm doing great, Nolan, thanks so much for having me on the show.
- 0:36Nolan Alexander (Host): It's our pleasure, and let's establish the basics here.
- 0:39What exactly is heart valve disease?
- 0:42Peter Haigh, MD: Yeah, it's a good question Nolan.
- 0:44I think to understand what is heart valve disease, it's first helpful to talk about
- 0:48what are the heart valves themselves.
- 0:51And so if you imagine rooms in a house, you have doorways
- 0:54that connect room to room.
- 0:56And Those are basically the valves.
- 0:57And just like rooms in a house, we have chambers of the heart.
- 1:00And so these doorways or valves sort of open and close to help blood flow
- 1:06through the heart in an organized fashion.
- 1:09valve disease boils down into two main problems.
- 1:12Those little doorways either have a hard time opening, we call that stenosis,
- 1:16And that restricts blood flow forward.
- 1:19Or the valves or little doorways don't close properly, which allows
- 1:24blood to leak back the wrong way.
- 1:26We call that regurgitation, and if either of these problems occur, it can cause
- 1:31a patient to feel unwell with symptoms like shortness of breath or fatigue or
- 1:36exercise intolerance and left untreated.
- 1:39These problems can progress and become quite serious leading to things
- 1:43like heart failure or even death.
- 1:45So it's important that if someone does have a valve problem, it's
- 1:50followed appropriately and it's intervened upon when the time is right.
- 1:55Nolan Alexander (Host): What happens when someone's diagnosed
- 1:56with heart valve disease?
- 1:58Peter Haigh, MD: Sure.
- 1:59So typically the diagnosis is made when your doctor hears a murmur, when they
- 2:04listen to your chest with a stethoscope.
- 2:07That murmur is usually followed up by a test called an echocardiogram, which
- 2:12is just an ultrasound of the heart.
- 2:13And on that test, we can figure out what's causing that abnormal heart
- 2:18sound, what's causing that murmur.
- 2:20We can figure out what valve is leaking or not opening.
- 2:23Well, we can figure out how bad it is And then determine
- 2:27the appropriate, next steps.
- 2:29For many patient's, this will mean additional monitoring, but sometimes
- 2:33we catch something that it's advanced enough that the time is right to go ahead
- 2:39and do an intervention on that valve, be it a valve replacement or a repair.
- 2:44Nolan Alexander (Host): So how common is valve disease and are cases increasing?
- 2:48Peter Haigh, MD: Yeah, valve disease is, quite common and cases are increasing.
- 2:53one of the main risk factors for valve disease is increased age.
- 2:57And as our population continues to get older and older, So, it does the
- 3:01prevalence And the number of people walking around with valve problems.
- 3:05So the devil's in the detail here, Nolan.
- 3:07So if you.
- 3:09Ask me how common is a leaky valve?
- 3:11Well, that's extremely common, and many times that's actually a normal finding.
- 3:16But if you take valve problems that are moderate or severe, meaning it's
- 3:21bad enough that it might cause symptoms or certainly need follow-up, the
- 3:24prevalence of that increases with age.
- 3:27So if you look at people over the age of 60, having a significant
- 3:30valve problem is about two to 3%, which is a whole lot of people.
- 3:36There are also valve problems that people are born with, so about one
- 3:39to 2% of the population are born with something called mitral valve
- 3:43prolapse or an abnormally formed aortic valve, and those often are not caught
- 3:49until somebody is much older in life.
- 3:51When an astute physician hears a murmur on exam.
- 3:55Nolan Alexander (Host): Building off what you said about age, who would you
- 3:57say is most at-risk for valve disease?
- 4:00Peter Haigh, MD: Well, the people most at-risk for valve
- 4:02disease are elderly individuals.
- 4:05People that either have had, a lot of time for wear and tear damage to occur.
- 4:10The human heartbeats about a hundred thousand times a day.
- 4:13And so if you do the math there, that's a lot of heartbeats over the
- 4:16course of years and decades of life.
- 4:18So it's not surprising that somewhere and tear occurs.
- 4:22otherwise certain medical problems that one develops or acquires over the
- 4:26course of their lifetime can then go on to make valve disease more likely.
- 4:31For example, people that develop heart failure for other reasons or
- 4:34have had heart attacks, all those problems can leave valve problems,
- 4:39autoimmune conditions, radiation therapy, and even certain medications.
- 4:43So the list is quite long in terms of what can cause valve disease.
- 4:47Nolan Alexander (Host): Doctors, people go about their day-to-day lives.
- 4:50What symptoms should people be watching for that might signal a valve problem?
- 4:56Peter Haigh, MD: Sure.
- 4:57So most valve problems are identified by symptoms such as shortness of breath,
- 5:02exercise, intolerance, and fatigue.
- 5:05Sometimes they'll also have things like chest pain, dizziness, and passing out.
- 5:11Now all those symptoms can be due to a huge number of causes.
- 5:15The list of things that can cause fatigue is just about endless.
- 5:18So really, if you're having symptoms like that, the next step is go see your
- 5:22doctor and have them do a good physical exam and take a close, listen to your
- 5:27heart with a stethoscope if they find evidence of heart failure or heart murmur.
- 5:32The next step should be an echo or a heart ultrasound.
- 5:35And from there if there's a problem there, going to see a cardiologist.
- 5:40Nolan Alexander (Host): Well, let's talk about that.
- 5:41If someone's coming to UK Healthcare, what can a patient expect when coming
- 5:45into the Valve program at UK healthcare?
- 5:48Peter Haigh, MD: So patient's who are referred to our valve program
- 5:51can expect streamline expert care for their cardiology needs,
- 5:54especially their valve disease.
- 5:57After being referred, one of our nurse coordinators will reach out to
- 6:00the patient and make sure that they understand where to go, why they're
- 6:04coming to the appointment, and make sure that we on our end, have all the
- 6:08relevant tests and imaging results.
- 6:10This way when the patient shows up to the clinic, we can have a meaningful
- 6:14conversation about what's going on with their heart and their valve.
- 6:17And there's not any wasted trips to the doctor while we're waiting on tests.
- 6:21On some occasions, we may also arrange for a test on the same-day.
- 6:25One of those echocardiograms I keep bringing up so that we get a look
- 6:28at the valve then and there From there, we can then refer patient's
- 6:33on, to an interventionalist or a surgeon if the time is right.
- 6:37But the idea with our valve clinic is it's comprehensive, that we have everything we
- 6:40need under one roof And we can minimize the number of trips patient's are making.
- 6:45'cause we realize that patient's are coming from sometimes, hours
- 6:49away across the state of Kentucky.
- 6:52Nolan Alexander (Host): That shows a real care for the patient.
- 6:54And with that, what inspired UK to restructure its approach to
- 6:58treating those with valve disease?
- 7:00Peter Haigh, MD: Sure.
- 7:01Nolan, I like to use the word restructure because it is true that
- 7:04for valve disease we already have all the pieces necessary to take care
- 7:09of patient's with valve problems.
- 7:11in fact, for just about any valve problem, we now have options.
- 7:14So if you go back 10, 20 years ago, if you had a valve problem that pretty much meant
- 7:20you're going to need to have surgery.
- 7:21I always tell patient's a valve problem is a mechanical problem
- 7:26and medications just doesn't work.
- 7:28in this day and age, we now have minimally invasive approaches where
- 7:32valve disease can be, corrected or fixed.
- 7:35By going through the artery or vein, so through a catheter rather than
- 7:39having an incision and going to the operating room for open heart surgery.
- 7:44There's a lot of factors that influence which decision or which
- 7:47treatment is best for each patient.
- 7:49But the point is valve disease has become much more, complicated to treat just
- 7:54because we have so many different options of management various valve problems.
- 7:58So having the surgeons, the interventional cardiologists.
- 8:02And cardiac imagers like myself, all under one roof.
- 8:06All, seeing the patient together, is what makes this so special
- 8:10for taking care of patient's.
- 8:12Nolan Alexander (Host): So how do you feel that that restructure, that holistic
- 8:15approach has improved patient outcomes?
- 8:17Peter Haigh, MD: we, wanna make sure that we have the experts from all the different
- 8:21areas weighing in on the patient.
- 8:23We have a conversation about the patient and get everybody's perspective
- 8:27on what's going to be best for that patient's anatomy and their valve lesion.
- 8:31in addition, when patient's are referred to our valve clinic, they'll be enrolled
- 8:35into our valve tracking program, which will be, a system for us to make sure
- 8:41no patient's fall through the cracks.
- 8:43So if a patient has a valve problem, but it's not quite ready to be
- 8:47fixed, we wanna make sure that that patient doesn't get lost.
- 8:51So they're going to need regular appointments, physical exams
- 8:55and imaging tests so that we can monitor the valve and catch it.
- 8:58when the time is right to intervene, And then after a patient does get a new
- 9:02valve, we wanna make sure that we're keeping an eye on that new valve because
- 9:06as hard as we try, nothing is good of the valves that we're born with, although
- 9:10technology's starting to creep up on that.
- 9:13So all these different, procedures need to have appropriate follow-up care.
- 9:17And for many patient's that'll mean not coming back to Lexington, but
- 9:21following with a cardiologist locally.
- 9:23But for those that wanna make the trip to Lexington or live close enough.
- 9:27we wanna make sure that we're doing everything on our end to
- 9:30make sure that, nothing progresses without us knowing about it.
- 9:34Nolan Alexander (Host): You've already demonstrated a great ability to try
- 9:37to put yourself in the patient's shoes as they go through this.
- 9:40Journey, but heart treatments and procedures, they can be
- 9:43very nerve wracking for so many.
- 9:45How do you support your patient's, both medically and emotionally?
- 9:49Peter Haigh, MD: Nolan, a great point that valve disease and all
- 9:52cardiology test and procedures can be anxiety-provoking and nerve wracking.
- 9:58I think some of That is normal and human to have a little bit of anxiety
- 10:01before you have a procedure or surgery.
- 10:04And I find that it's the unknowns about these things that drive a lot of fear.
- 10:08So I do my best when I'm sitting with a patient to explain.
- 10:12Hey, This is what your valve problem is.
- 10:15These are the treatment options.
- 10:16This is what you can expect for each of these approaches, and just removing some
- 10:20of those unknowns and uncertainties.
- 10:22But for those patient's that are still really having trouble coping
- 10:25with the emotional mental health component, we actually have a
- 10:29dedicated cardiac, psychiatrist that we, can refer patient's to.
- 10:33And I've heard nothing but glowing reviews from patient's that I've sent for this.
- 10:37So we like to think that we have a really comprehensive approach for treating
- 10:41not just the heart, but also the mind.
- 10:44Nolan Alexander (Host): It seems like y'all have thought of everything.
- 10:46Peter Haigh, MD: we're certainly doing our best and we have a lot of help.
- 10:48We have a big team And we wanna make sure that This is gonna be good for
- 10:52patient's at the end of the day.
- 10:54Nolan Alexander (Host): So you mentioned some symptoms earlier, Signals to
- 10:56look for at the end of this podcast.
- 10:59If listeners are experiencing symptoms or if they have some concerns, what's
- 11:02the best next step for them to take?
- 11:05Peter Haigh, MD: great question.
- 11:06So if patient's are having symptoms that, raise concern, like trouble
- 11:10breathing or exercise intolerance and fatigue, the next step is to get in with
- 11:15your family doctor who knows you well.
- 11:17from there, I'd recommend a really careful physical exam, taking a
- 11:21good listen to the heart and seeing if, they hear anything abnormal.
- 11:25From there, the next step is an echocardiogram to get
- 11:28a good look at the heart.
- 11:30Nolan Alexander (Host): And lastly is.
- 11:31Anything else you'd like to add on this topic today?
- 11:33Peter Haigh, MD: I'd just like to restate that, this valve clinic is a huge
- 11:38multidisciplinary approach from multiple different cardiologists coming from
- 11:41different expertise from interventional cardiologists who specialize in those
- 11:45minimally invasive procedures to our cardiac surgeons that can offer
- 11:50state-of-the-art care and all the advanced surgical techniques for bowel disease.
- 11:54To our imagers nurse coordinators, nurses, social workers, cardiac
- 11:59psychiatrists, cardiac pharmacists.
- 12:02it's a huge undertaking, but I think it's gonna be great for patient's.
- 12:05Nolan Alexander (Host): It's a large team that works together And
- 12:07we were so thankful to have Dr.
- 12:08Peter Heg with us today.
- 12:10Dr.
- 12:10Heg, thank you so much for your time.
- 12:12Peter Haigh, MD: Thank you, Nolan.
- 12:13It's been a pleasure.
- 12:15Nolan Alexander (Host): That was Dr.
- 12:16Peter Hegg.
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