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Why Isn't Marvel Promoting Wonder Man? (The No Spoiler Review!) · For All Nerds Show

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Speaker 1: What up?
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Speaker 2: Internet?
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Speaker 3: You are watching four All Nerds and on this episode
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Speaker 3: we discuss why Marvel is out of their minds because
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Speaker 3: you should absolutely be watching wonder Man right now.
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Speaker 1: And what's up y'all?
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to another episode of the four All Nerds show.
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Speaker 4: It's your boy, DJ Pin I mean aka Lebron Shamee
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Speaker 4: wanted to manage the Mandarin Orange Black the King Kirby
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Speaker 4: Tannerman Lee stop Pilgrim here in the spaceship tonight, and
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Speaker 4: as always, I'm joined.
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Speaker 3: By Tatiana King, the Grand that was a tech also
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Speaker 3: known as Tatiana Kang, the Conqueror, the Wicked Witch of
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Speaker 3: the West View, Coldest Winter of Soldier ever, doc Ockey
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Speaker 3: Doctor doing some strange for some.
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Speaker 2: Change, and he who cannot be shamed.
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Speaker 1: Mmm mm hmmm hmm.
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Speaker 4: And as you can tell about our Marvel akas not
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Speaker 4: by our Flex Luthor shirts, we are here to discuss
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Speaker 4: the latest Marvel series, the new Marvel Spotlight series, premiering
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Speaker 4: on Disney Plus on January twenty seventh.
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Speaker 3: Wonder Man, hmm, I have a question real quick, what
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Speaker 3: is the difference between just Marvel stuff and Marvel Spotlight.
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Speaker 4: I need mar Spotlight is when they intend to never
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Speaker 4: do another one with them.
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Speaker 2: I mean, like all bullshit aside, Like.
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Speaker 4: I don't mean to be arch, but I feel like,
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Speaker 4: you know, we put a spotlight on this, and then
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Speaker 4: we're gonna put a spotlight on something else, and then
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Speaker 4: we're gonna put a spotlight on something else.
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Speaker 1: Is what Marvel Spotlight series are about? It?
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Speaker 3: It says, it says, and I just googled there real quick,
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Speaker 3: and it says new Disney plus branding for standalone street
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Speaker 3: level MCU stories like Echo, don't say Echo.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you'll never see Echo again?
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Speaker 3: So oh my, so you might be right, man stuffing
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Speaker 3: you may never see again?
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Speaker 1: What was Werewolf by Night? And I don't even feel
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Speaker 1: like I don't remember this Marble spotlight being on Echo?
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Speaker 1: Was it? Maybe it was?
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Speaker 3: It said like Echo is it's designed for broader audiences,
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Speaker 3: my focus on grounded, character driven averatis and less to
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Speaker 3: major crossovers. Okay, it says from the twenty twenty four
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Speaker 3: to present. So it said began with Echo in twenty four.
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Speaker 4: So I was not Werewolf by Night, all right? And
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't think we ever go see Wherewolf
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Speaker 4: by Night again?
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Speaker 1: Either?
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Speaker 2: Damn Well, I mean I don't care.
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Speaker 4: But I enjoyed Werewolf by Night whether or not I
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Speaker 4: need to see him again.
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Speaker 1: There's another question, you know, who knows?
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Speaker 4: I don't remember who about, we don't remember who played them.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that means all right, Marvel Spotlight.
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Speaker 4: So yes, we are here on the Marvel Spotlight. And
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Speaker 4: this is well, it's not like Echo because.
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Speaker 1: Echo was on Hulu.
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Speaker 4: This is all Disney Plush and it is an eight
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Speaker 4: episode series. All eight episodes will be off on January
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Speaker 4: twenty seventh. We are not going to spoil anything you
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Speaker 4: know major yeah, nothing, you know, nothing you ever seen
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Speaker 4: in the previews or that you don't already know about
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Speaker 4: to saying tell you how we feel, what we thought,
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Speaker 4: and why we feel like you should watch it. And
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Speaker 4: that's my first thing. I will say that you should
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Speaker 4: watch it. I do want to say this. It is
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Speaker 4: produced and show worn by Dustin, Daniel Creton and Andrew Guests.
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Speaker 4: And I said this on a previous episode of for
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Speaker 4: Our Nerds. I really truly don't understand why Disney is
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Speaker 4: not pumping this show other than the fact that it's
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Speaker 4: black people and that's how they use it.
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Speaker 2: And led by an Asian man.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, who did.
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Speaker 4: Shangshi and is doing the upcoming Spider Man and was
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Speaker 4: about Disney was giving him the reins to Avengers before
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Speaker 4: Jonathan Major's winning did what he did, so they obviously
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Speaker 4: trust this dude. They're still giving him Spider Man, which
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Speaker 4: is one of their biggest franchises, but yet they argua
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Speaker 4: me no, I mean bare minimum love the one the man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's also go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said on the previous episode, I think
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Speaker 4: that's because you know, like I said, it's a black
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Speaker 4: person and they trust people like us and shows like
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Speaker 4: us to do the work.
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Speaker 3: He's also joined by Andrew Guest, who is known for
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Speaker 3: Community and Hawkeye.
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Speaker 1: So from most other things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brooklyn ninety nine.
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Speaker 4: You know, like those are great shows. If you're you know,
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Speaker 4: you got that pedigree, you're gonna do good work.
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Speaker 3: Well, they both have seen have a pedigree and don't
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Speaker 3: seem to have the back And I asked about this,
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Speaker 3: and I don't understand you. I will get into that
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Speaker 3: later because I do want to hear your take on
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Speaker 3: what you felt about the series. We did get to
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Speaker 3: see all eight episodes ahead of time, ahead of the game,
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Speaker 3: and please continue, all right.
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Speaker 4: So overall, when I thought about the series, I really
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Speaker 4: enjoyed it.
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Speaker 1: First off, I really truly enjoyed it.
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Speaker 4: I said this in Disney asked us because Disney wanted
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Speaker 4: us actually to watch all eight really quickly because they
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Speaker 4: were asking for a turnaround just to get some feedback
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Speaker 4: on it. And I told them straight up, I said,
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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed this series. I think it's one of
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Speaker 4: the more daring series that Marvel's done, considering that there
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Speaker 4: is bare minimum amount of superhero's and I.
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Speaker 1: Mean the bare minimal.
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Speaker 4: I'm out of superheroics, and it really is about a
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Speaker 4: character who is just trying to become an actor, a
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Speaker 4: successful actor in Hollywood, and they just happen to have
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Speaker 4: superpowers and it happens to take place in the MCU.
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Speaker 4: And because of that, I thought it was a really refreshing,
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Speaker 4: really great take. And I think it's one of those
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Speaker 4: shows where it's not it gives you an insider view
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Speaker 4: of Hollywood that I really enjoyed. As someone who spent
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Speaker 4: some time on the inside of Hollywood, I really enjoy
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Speaker 4: those type of things. I felt like, while not as
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Speaker 4: I've spot all about Hollywood operates, it's just not I
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Speaker 4: would say it's incisive as something like Barry, which I
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Speaker 4: think is one of the best shows to tell people
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Speaker 4: about inside Hollywood.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's about an assassin.
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Speaker 4: You know, it just really gets what Hollywood is also
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Speaker 4: about because it's about an assassin who's trying to become
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Speaker 4: an actor. And this is about you know, struggling superhero
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Speaker 4: and I mean not even superhero's just a super powered
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Speaker 4: individual who is trying to become an actor.
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Speaker 1: And I really really enjoyed that.
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Speaker 4: And I think ya Ya just absolutely kills it as
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Speaker 4: Simon Williams, Ben Kingsley as Trevor Slattery, right, I mean
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Speaker 4: he's been killing this Trevor. But I think the dynamic
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Speaker 4: duo of yah Ya and Been Together is something I
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Speaker 4: really didn't expect. I remember when they're like Trevor's to
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Speaker 4: be in this series, I'm like, for what. And I
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Speaker 4: would watch them play Simon and Williams and Trevor and
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Speaker 4: do anything, like you could have a pot, be anything.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what the plot is. And if they
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Speaker 4: ever do turn to wonder Man to plot of the
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Speaker 4: next one, it's going to be radically different than this
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Speaker 4: and I would love to see it because yeah, they're
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Speaker 4: absolutely I mean we all know being Kingsey is just man.
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Speaker 4: But yah, y'all, Hill's it as Simon Williams. And let
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Speaker 4: me say, man, that man smiled, Like that is what
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Speaker 4: it means to have a like beautiful fucking smile.
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Speaker 1: Smile right show. When that man smiles, I'm like, this
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Speaker 1: is why the money, you know.
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Speaker 4: Like it was just like when I was on the
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Speaker 4: set of Captain Marvel and I felt like I was
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Speaker 4: the ugliest person in the room. You know, I just
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Speaker 4: felt like horrific, you know, because I'm like, all these people.
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Speaker 3: Are you know, I mean, but they also have money
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Speaker 3: to make sure their appearance is as top notch a
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Speaker 3: spot not.
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Speaker 4: But it was like, you know, Captain Marvel was filled
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Speaker 4: with some beautiful people, fam and I felt.
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Speaker 1: Like a goon, your goon. Yeah yeah, y'all got that smile, boy,
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Speaker 1: There's no denying that.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: So, so as far as what I thought about the
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Speaker 3: series overall, it really surprised me in the best way
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Speaker 3: in that I was not checking for wonder Man. I
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Speaker 3: think I even told you that I wasn't really excited
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Speaker 3: to watch it. The little bit of promo that it
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Speaker 3: did get give didn't give anything to me. Like in
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Speaker 3: terms of really understanding what was going on. I had
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Speaker 3: absolutely no backstory or detail about wonder Man, like many
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Speaker 3: people who are gonna come into this. And sometimes that's
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Speaker 3: a good thing, obviously, because then it gives you a
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Speaker 3: blank canvas to start on. And sometimes especially it's like
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Speaker 3: a double edged sword it, particularly when it comes to Marvel,
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Speaker 3: because they've had this formulaic approach and the way that
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Speaker 3: they've done things where it's just like you expect some
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Speaker 3: type of tie to a character you know or a
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Speaker 3: story you know, and they do that a little bit
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Speaker 3: because they included Trevor Slattery aka the Mandarin or Fake Mandarin.
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Speaker 3: But it's different, and so I wasn't sure what to
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Speaker 3: ex Then I thought the previews were a little weird.
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Speaker 3: I was like, are they just trying to be kitchy
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Speaker 3: and off?
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Speaker 2: Just different? Right? And I'm like, are y'all trying too hard?
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Speaker 3: But is this I was changed after the first episode.
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Speaker 2: I was like, I get it, to your point.
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Speaker 3: It is exactly like it has a lot of like
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Speaker 3: the background of trying to make it in Hollywood and
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Speaker 3: what and a little bit you told me you mentioned
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Speaker 3: at some point you said a little bit of Hollywood shuffle,
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Speaker 3: and they're just like, what they really like to be
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Speaker 3: an actor in this space and try to come up
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Speaker 3: in this space and the way people really be treating
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Speaker 3: you in this position, Like obviously a lot of people
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Speaker 3: know it's not all glamorous, but really to be in
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Speaker 3: the trenches driving that beat, beat up car and trying
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Speaker 3: to make it like it's wild, so it's really it
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Speaker 3: was really refreshing to see that and this whole thing.
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Speaker 2: It's so well written and it's so much less.
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Speaker 3: About superhero and powers, even though for those who are
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Speaker 3: worried it's all over the season.
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Speaker 2: You'll see it.
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Speaker 3: It's less about that though, and more so about the character,
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Speaker 3: more about the person, more about their journey and how
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Speaker 3: they grow or resessed or whatever the case may be.
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Speaker 3: And yah yah, I do my teaen the second he
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Speaker 3: delivers that flawlessly.
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Speaker 2: And for me, I was like, I really want to
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Speaker 2: interview him.
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Speaker 3: We've interviewed many years ago, back when he gets cancer,
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Speaker 3: but I really want to interview him now just to
10:27
Speaker 3: catch up, but also to be like, how did you
10:30
Speaker 3: do this, bro? Because to me it was like inception
10:32
Speaker 3: levels that what he was doing, like he is an
10:34
Speaker 3: actor of real life playing an actor in his show
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Speaker 3: that's playing another actor trying to get an acting gig.
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Speaker 3: And I was just like, how do you begin to
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Speaker 3: even separate yourself to be able to deliver that type
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Speaker 3: of character or is it really is it a piece
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Speaker 3: of you that's in there? A lot of actors will
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Speaker 3: say that, but like, at what point where does the
10:51
Speaker 3: character stop and where do you begin? And vice versa.
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Speaker 3: So to see that complexity in the delivery of the
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Speaker 3: character and then in the creation of Simon Williams, it
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Speaker 3: made me care, Like I was like by the like
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Speaker 3: really by the first episode. And in the first episode,
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, not only is this well
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Speaker 3: written and it's clever and I'm into it, I actually
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Speaker 3: care about this character and his next steps, about what
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Speaker 3: is his journey as mentioned, what's his journey gonna look like?
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Speaker 3: Who are the people he gonna run to to make
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Speaker 3: it through his journey? Is he gonna win by the end?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 3: Is he gonna get what he has been searching for?
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Speaker 3: Is he gonna get the gig and all this stuff?
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Speaker 3: And you also touched upon another point, what a really
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Speaker 3: big strength about this show, Sir Ben Kingsley, the legend,
11:35
Speaker 3: the God, like he can he can do anything, right,
11:39
Speaker 3: we know this, Yeah, them together is so perfect and
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Speaker 3: I did not realize it, Like I feel like they Trojanhorse,
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Speaker 3: this Trevor Slattery Mandarin character into this because just like you,
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Speaker 3: I was like, why the hell.
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Speaker 2: Is he here? But I loved it.
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Speaker 3: It worked because it was like, here's a character that
11:55
Speaker 3: essentially just became the butt of jokes after years at Marvel,
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Speaker 3: after it was revealed that back when what I'm in
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Speaker 3: three or whatever, when he appeared, he's just like, oh,
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Speaker 3: he's just an actor, you know, he's a fake where
12:05
Speaker 3: he just literally every time he was mentioned that it
12:08
Speaker 3: was just a joke, like a you see the actual
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Speaker 3: person behind this so called Mandarin, the fake Mandarin, right,
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Speaker 3: you see the human being behind it. You see the
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Speaker 3: kind of the shyster, but also like the redemption behind it.
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Speaker 3: And then to couple him with Simon, who's this guy
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Speaker 3: who he's out there, as mentioned in the trenches, struggling
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Speaker 3: and he's a little too serious about himself, right, He's
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Speaker 3: always in his head, he's always bruding. Then here come
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Speaker 3: Trevor talking about Hey, man, just takes some ean, you know,
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Speaker 3: live your life like that. That's such a great foil.
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Speaker 3: So to see that approach in this show, and it's
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Speaker 3: that's at the forefront, that's what you learn, that's.
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Speaker 2: What you get, and then they go through shenanigans. Like
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Speaker 2: I was, I was really.
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Speaker 3: Presently surprised, and I really really enjoyed wonder Man.
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Speaker 4: M h our second, every thing you said right there
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Speaker 4: about Trevor about wonder Man. And I do want to
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Speaker 4: say this because this was my very first note on
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Speaker 4: the very first episode. As I'm writing, I said that
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Speaker 4: Simon Williams would talk himself out of of course, I'm
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Speaker 4: gonna let y'all know. You know, you might not know
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Speaker 4: about my smooth devon air style on Fall Nerds.
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Speaker 1: I was that man. I talked myself out of.
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Speaker 4: More, more, more everything, and more anything than you could
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Speaker 4: imagine as a youth, especially when it came to women.
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Speaker 4: And we know not as much as anything else that
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Speaker 4: I was always the person who I am who would
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Speaker 4: just you know, if I saw an opportunity, I'd go
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Speaker 4: for it. I'm always thinking, you know, let me push this,
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Speaker 4: let me do that. But when it came to women,
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Speaker 4: oh my god, I was Simon like I would just
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Speaker 4: overthink everything, over say everything, and like how he talks
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Speaker 4: himself out of that thing, out of living being. That
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Speaker 4: was me and so it was really relatable for me.
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Speaker 4: And then also this interesting for me as a writer
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Speaker 4: to see this be your protagonist, you know, this type
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Speaker 4: of character be the protagonist, a character who you know,
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Speaker 4: most protagonists don't want to go on the adventure that
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Speaker 4: is in front of them, but a character who doesn't
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Speaker 4: even who wants the adventure, but then will ruin it
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Speaker 4: for himself, Oh.
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Speaker 2: My god, ruin it.
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Speaker 3: And also that they realize he's on the adventure too,
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Speaker 3: Like I think that's also like you're so like out
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Speaker 3: of it, like you're not even self aware of what's
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Speaker 3: happening right now.
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Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite jay Z quotes is I'll
14:37
Speaker 4: I'll f up a good thing if you let me,
14:39
Speaker 4: you know, And that is like that's somebody. And one
14:42
Speaker 4: of my favorite Jadakis quotes is when shit be going right,
14:46
Speaker 4: I flip it to the wrong shit, you know, like
14:49
Speaker 4: because that's like, sadly, that is me, you know, that
14:52
Speaker 4: is how I am sometimes like I'll have the best
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Speaker 4: opportunity and I'm like, ah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's terrible.
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Speaker 3: See the way you aligned with science in on that like,
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Speaker 3: that's the that's the character work, that's the psychology, that's
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Speaker 3: the oh, the relatability of the character because everyone can
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Speaker 3: see what's going on, but then a lot of people
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Speaker 3: can actually direct relate like damn, I get it, I
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Speaker 3: get it, I get it, I get it right, I understand.
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Speaker 3: And it's like he's wilding, but I get it. And
15:22
Speaker 3: that that's again the beauty of this show. And and yes,
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Speaker 3: then you know, of course you throw in the marvel
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Speaker 3: of it, right, there's some there's superhero shit happening throughout
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Speaker 3: this there's powers that you see throughout that you know,
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Speaker 3: you don't got to wait to the end, you know,
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Speaker 3: like they show it eventually, and they show different things
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Speaker 3: happening with different people, So you get it, you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, You get it all.
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Speaker 2: Really.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I say it's not superheroes, it's definitely not an.
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Speaker 3: That's a hero forward, Like it's not just straight up
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Speaker 3: fighting power.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And Simon Williams is the character winner Man. And I'm
15:55
Speaker 4: actually going to do a video on this. But if
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Speaker 4: you're a fan of the comics, and if you're a
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Speaker 4: fan of wonder Man from the comics, I have to
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Speaker 4: warn you pretty much. The only association they have is
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Speaker 4: the powers and the fact that they're both actors and
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Speaker 4: the name Simon Williams wonder Man.
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Speaker 1: Other than that, these are two different characters.
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Speaker 4: You know, Simon in the comics as well, is this
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Speaker 4: same type of character who is a character who is
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Speaker 4: filled with Immn's power but doesn't believe in himself. You know,
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Speaker 4: that is Simon Williams in the comments for a long time.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what his person it is right now,
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Speaker 4: but in the comments that that was him, like for
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Speaker 4: a long time. Because he's a person who can fight
16:34
Speaker 4: with people like Hulk and Thor. You know, he can
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Speaker 4: trade punctions with them, but he would not be willing
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Speaker 4: to do it because he just did not believe he
16:41
Speaker 4: could do it. Yeah, And so that's you know, that
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Speaker 4: is something they do share. And while I was a
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Speaker 4: person who loved wonder Man, I don't think that this
16:51
Speaker 4: is too much of a change from the character. Like,
16:54
Speaker 4: you know, it is a radically different character. I think
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Speaker 4: it's still a great interpretation of wonder Man, Okay, And
17:00
Speaker 4: his acting is something that is essential to wonder Man,
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Speaker 4: and that's something wonder Man as well.
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Speaker 1: He never really wants to be a superhero.
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Speaker 4: Like I say, he doesn't want to be out there
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Speaker 4: punching for or whoever the bad guy the weeks.
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Speaker 1: He'd rather be a Hollywood superstar.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And when we talk about the reinterpretation of character,
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Speaker 3: they put that directly in some of the plot lines
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Speaker 3: of the show.
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Speaker 2: And this is this his public knowledge.
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Speaker 3: But like just the fact that you can't have powers
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Speaker 3: and be an actor, like you can't be as part
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Speaker 3: and they explain why. But like that is another dynamic
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Speaker 3: that's actually once again really smart because as mentioned, it
17:36
Speaker 3: doesn't make it super focused.
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Speaker 2: Like it's not about the powers and it's not about what.
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Speaker 3: The universe is, and like it's just like this is
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Speaker 3: this guy on the ground that yeah, he got these powers,
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Speaker 3: but also he's trying to make it right, Like this
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Speaker 3: is the first thing that he's trying to do and
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Speaker 3: he gets into things.
17:54
Speaker 2: A question I have for you because you do.
17:56
Speaker 3: Know the backstory of wonder Man all this, and granted
17:59
Speaker 3: this is a reinterpretation, it's wonder manam mutant.
18:02
Speaker 1: No, no, not at all.
18:05
Speaker 4: Now, Now what he is in this show, I don't know.
18:11
Speaker 4: It's not exactly explained. It's kind of a nebulous origin.
18:15
Speaker 4: As to where the powers come from, they.
18:18
Speaker 3: Don't explain it at all, nebulous. Hell, they don't say
18:20
Speaker 3: shit about where it comes from.
18:21
Speaker 2: It just dare. So let's be clear, like this.
18:25
Speaker 4: Flashla he does, yeah, flash flats where he doesn't have
18:28
Speaker 4: the powers, and then to at some point right he
18:31
Speaker 4: gets them right.
18:32
Speaker 3: But and that what I'm saying, is he at least
18:34
Speaker 3: in this version, is he in fact mutine? I mean
18:37
Speaker 3: it would it will align with the mc U timeline
18:39
Speaker 3: about where they're going.
18:41
Speaker 2: It would make sense because you know.
18:42
Speaker 3: Mutants don't automatically have the powers like they you know,
18:45
Speaker 3: it's like a puberty comes around puberty.
18:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, Now, I mean maybe you know. I don't mean.
18:54
Speaker 2: You're saying in the comics, no, but get the powers
18:57
Speaker 2: from that.
18:58
Speaker 1: And the comics.
18:59
Speaker 4: He okay, And I gotta remember this, but if I
19:04
Speaker 4: exactly what are off top? What I remember is Simon
19:07
Speaker 4: Williams is an inventor, industrialist what they called him, and
19:11
Speaker 4: it's a kid I to this death, I don't know
19:12
Speaker 4: what industrialist is, but anyway, he was that and he
19:15
Speaker 4: was like a rival of Tony Stark. But he didn't
19:17
Speaker 4: do well, so he went to the mob to get
19:20
Speaker 4: some money. The mob give him some money, and they
19:23
Speaker 4: also involve him with this crew called the Masters of Evil.
19:27
Speaker 4: And the Masters of Evil were like the evil Avejurans.
19:30
Speaker 4: They were like the Legion of Doom for Marvel. And
19:33
Speaker 4: so they give him the powers, you know, why they
19:38
Speaker 4: give it to this random dude instead of somebody else,
19:40
Speaker 4: who know, They give him hell of power.
19:42
Speaker 1: Like I said, like.
19:43
Speaker 4: Simon Williams is imbued with ionic energy, like eventually he
19:47
Speaker 4: doesn't He's not even really human anymore. He is just
19:50
Speaker 4: like an energy being that can resemble a human form,
19:54
Speaker 4: you know, and he is dumb powerful by that, you know,
19:58
Speaker 4: so strong con fly can shoot beams eventually, Mainly like
20:04
Speaker 4: when I was reading him, he wasn't a flying shooting beams.
20:06
Speaker 4: So he was just ridiculously strong and pretty much in vulnerable,
20:10
Speaker 4: you know, and that was it. And he couldn't even fly.
20:12
Speaker 4: That's why he had the jet pack or that he
20:14
Speaker 4: had this jet belt, which I thought was the coolest
20:16
Speaker 4: shit in the world. Okay, yeah, yeah, Mutant, I don't know,
20:20
Speaker 4: like I said, I don't know if we're going to
20:22
Speaker 4: see him again, and if we do, I don't know
20:24
Speaker 4: if his powers will ever be explained, and they.
20:28
Speaker 3: Don't necessarily have to, but I was just curious, like
20:31
Speaker 3: it's giving mutant at least, you.
20:34
Speaker 4: Know, and it feels like there might even be something
20:36
Speaker 4: left on the writing room where it's like, yeah, he's
20:38
Speaker 4: a mutant, you know, like something was left, you know,
20:40
Speaker 4: because like we said, there's there's a point where the
20:43
Speaker 4: power seemed to appear, and that's really given mutant because
20:48
Speaker 4: it's not only with puberty. It's always a traumatic experience,
20:52
Speaker 4: correct that charges you know, there's like ah powers, you know,
20:56
Speaker 4: so yeah, life, you know, I mean my life.
21:00
Speaker 1: Is there about a metaphor for puberty?
21:04
Speaker 4: You know, because it's like, you know, the angry thirteen
21:06
Speaker 4: year old it's like fuck everything, rage.
21:09
Speaker 1: You know?
21:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, okay, all right, that's I just
21:15
Speaker 3: had that question, So I appreciate it could be.
21:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, And one thing I also want to mention because
21:20
Speaker 4: this was like me as I'm watching it right, I'm
21:23
Speaker 4: sitting there like waiting for the comic references to happen,
21:26
Speaker 4: and like they introduced Simon Williams brother and if you
21:29
Speaker 4: know the comics, Simon Williams brother is a character named
21:32
Speaker 4: the Grim Reaper and they have a huge beef and
21:36
Speaker 4: it just goes on for a long time, et cetera,
21:39
Speaker 4: et cetera. I'm not gonna say, you know, I was
21:43
Speaker 4: just waiting for these scenes. But one thing I did
21:45
Speaker 4: really appreciate about Simon's family and about the show is
21:49
Speaker 4: that in this version, Simon Williams is a Haitian American.
21:52
Speaker 1: Thank you.
21:52
Speaker 2: I was going to talk about that, yes, And.
21:54
Speaker 4: I thought, first of all, in the comics, he's not
21:56
Speaker 4: this as we know, he's a white man normally, you know,
21:59
Speaker 4: it's not yah yah type.
22:01
Speaker 1: You know, in the comics he's a white dude.
22:03
Speaker 4: But I really love the Haitian American version that is
22:06
Speaker 4: put into this show because it's one of those things
22:09
Speaker 4: like when I talk about my draft and novel Jimmy
22:12
Speaker 4: Henders Purple Hayes always say that it can either be
22:15
Speaker 4: you can read it as a black space opera, or
22:18
Speaker 4: you can read it as a black space opera. You know,
22:21
Speaker 4: it can either be a space operator just happens to
22:23
Speaker 4: that black people in it, or it could be a
22:25
Speaker 4: space operator very black in his politics. I think wonder
22:29
Speaker 4: Man is more the former where it is, while Ironheart
22:34
Speaker 4: was more at a ladder, you know, oh.
22:35
Speaker 3: Where like Americ just happens to be black in this
22:38
Speaker 3: and they yeah, yeah, it's not like they don't shy
22:42
Speaker 3: away from the fact that Haitian America.
22:45
Speaker 2: But it's not like it's.
22:46
Speaker 3: Not the leading factor if it makes no.
22:48
Speaker 4: Sense, Yeah, but it's so well done in that sense
22:51
Speaker 4: because he has his Haitian, his family, his Haitian his
22:55
Speaker 4: mother especially is a mother.
22:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and.
22:59
Speaker 4: I loved that about the show, I mean loved it.
23:04
Speaker 1: Yeah.
23:04
Speaker 3: I wanted to make mention of that because it was
23:07
Speaker 3: so beautiful. And why Another reason that it irritates me
23:11
Speaker 3: that this show is at least right now, doesn't have
23:14
Speaker 3: a level of publicity it should because it's really doing
23:17
Speaker 3: what people want, like yes, you know, the inclusion selves,
23:22
Speaker 3: Like I just I don't know what else, how many
23:23
Speaker 3: pounds people got to say it always makes money, so
23:26
Speaker 3: and I don't know or remember any like really on
23:32
Speaker 3: a large scale level like this, because technically, regardless of
23:34
Speaker 3: how you see, it's still Marvel, right, that is of
23:36
Speaker 3: Haitian descent, that has the Marvel brand behind them, if
23:41
Speaker 3: you will, Right, even if they don't really do much
23:43
Speaker 3: with the character, the fact is at least this one
23:45
Speaker 3: time you have the weight of Marvel Disney behind you.
23:48
Speaker 3: So for that to be a person, I'm not sure
23:52
Speaker 3: if Yaya actually is, but at least his character presenting
23:54
Speaker 3: as a Haitian American and as you said, his Haitian
23:57
Speaker 3: family back there that that they're a prominent piece of
24:01
Speaker 3: his journey of his life obviously, and the pot show
24:04
Speaker 3: and the fact that because he is of hatred America
24:07
Speaker 3: sent you see that their influence throughout, like just like
24:11
Speaker 3: how a lot of times will say I'm black American, right,
24:13
Speaker 3: a lot of times we say, well, that character that
24:15
Speaker 3: was me, and my character, like my mother would have
24:18
Speaker 3: popped out and said something, right, because that's our experience,
24:20
Speaker 3: like we are in and involved people and similar to
24:24
Speaker 3: I have very close Haitian friends who like it, like
24:27
Speaker 3: the community comes out right and you know, and then
24:29
Speaker 3: just like how they did during that when you meet
24:32
Speaker 3: the family and the whole community behind the family and
24:35
Speaker 3: all the taneticians are going that, but then also seeing
24:38
Speaker 3: the the the cultural fools of it. He's eating festival
24:42
Speaker 3: and eating pickolies and all this other stuff, right and
24:44
Speaker 3: listening to common music like it's it's it's all there
24:48
Speaker 3: and it's done at least from what I've seen someone
24:51
Speaker 3: who's Hatitian can tell me otherwise, but it seems fairly
24:54
Speaker 3: genuine and fairly authentic.
24:56
Speaker 2: And they're speaking creole.
24:58
Speaker 3: They're speaking cleo like every other word, like they're either
25:01
Speaker 3: speaking straight creole or like they're doing like the creole
25:05
Speaker 3: English switch off. Like a lot of times you see
25:07
Speaker 3: that when people speak of Spanish speaking English, especially in New York.
25:09
Speaker 2: You see that. Like that was fire to me. I
25:12
Speaker 2: love that and I love seeing that.
25:14
Speaker 3: Like you said, this guy, she just happens to be black,
25:17
Speaker 3: and he happens to be Haitian American, and look, this
25:19
Speaker 3: is this is the makeup of.
25:21
Speaker 2: His life, does the makeup his family?
25:23
Speaker 3: And also he's friends with Travers Lattery and all this
25:25
Speaker 3: other crazy shit happens.
25:27
Speaker 2: And he's in LA and this is the stuff that
25:29
Speaker 2: happens in LA.
25:30
Speaker 3: Like it's literally a microcosm of a life in America,
25:35
Speaker 3: which involves many different cultures. That's what quote America is
25:40
Speaker 3: supposed to be, right, So that's why I liked it.
25:43
Speaker 2: It was just a reflection of what it is.
25:44
Speaker 3: It wasn't contrived, it wasn't forced, it wasn't all. As
25:48
Speaker 3: someone said on the Marvel Post today, about wonder Man.
25:51
Speaker 3: Here come Negro man, like, no, it's oh Jesus, it
25:55
Speaker 3: just happens to be.
25:58
Speaker 2: Yes, they said that.
25:59
Speaker 3: And again, just again when it comes to when we
26:04
Speaker 3: say how Marvel promotes or does not promote these things
26:07
Speaker 3: that really piss thet y'all because they do not or
26:10
Speaker 3: I feel that they do not defend. This happened with
26:13
Speaker 3: Reebe Williams, and it happens time and time again where
26:18
Speaker 3: like they do not defend it. And I'm not saying
26:20
Speaker 3: they jump into comments and you start seeing them trolling back. No,
26:23
Speaker 3: it's just like by when I say defend, I mean
26:27
Speaker 3: push it even more, put it in their face.
26:29
Speaker 2: That's how you troll back as a multi billion dollar,
26:33
Speaker 2: trillion dollar.
26:34
Speaker 3: Multinational corporation, like that's you told by throwing more of
26:37
Speaker 3: the money, the trillions into the fire, like oh you
26:39
Speaker 3: don't like it, here's more of that person, because you
26:43
Speaker 3: show that you actually back it instead we and you're.
26:46
Speaker 2: Never gonna stop that. That's just the nature of the internet.
26:49
Speaker 3: You get these every other comment and one was like okay, interesting,
26:51
Speaker 3: another one was some racist shit.
26:54
Speaker 2: I was just like, fuck, but I don't see no
26:56
Speaker 2: defense of it.
26:57
Speaker 1: That's not even like that's such low hanging fruit, Negro.
27:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, like y'all gotta be more clever.
27:03
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I love aist joke, like I love one,
27:07
Speaker 4: you know, a good racist joke.
27:09
Speaker 1: You know, I can't get enough of it.
27:11
Speaker 3: But good it My my misgivings about how this is
27:17
Speaker 3: partially promoted aside, like this is soup, This is really really,
27:22
Speaker 3: really good, and they have a good one on their hands.
27:25
Speaker 3: I just wish at least it would feel like Marvel
27:29
Speaker 3: new they had a good one, right and everyone even
27:31
Speaker 3: and it's a double edged sword. It's like they're releasing
27:35
Speaker 3: all episodes at once. So it's great because it's meant,
27:38
Speaker 3: as we found out about Spotlight stuff, it's meant as
27:41
Speaker 3: kind of like a limited one shot thing to kind
27:43
Speaker 3: of see what happens.
27:45
Speaker 2: But then also because people are used to how Marvel.
27:48
Speaker 3: Moves, they're like, oh, they released all the episode at once,
27:50
Speaker 3: and they don't really promote it's probably trash and that's
27:53
Speaker 3: not the case here, but we are so been so
27:56
Speaker 3: desensitized to the way that they do this shit, like
27:59
Speaker 3: that's the first people think.
28:00
Speaker 2: Like literally that was also in the commons. They was like, oh,
28:02
Speaker 2: all the episodes once probably don't work.
28:04
Speaker 3: I was just like, fuck, you know, And I don't
28:06
Speaker 3: blame them for thinking that, yeah, because that's just how
28:09
Speaker 3: the that's how the cycle has been in the pattern
28:11
Speaker 3: has been.
28:11
Speaker 1: And I really wonder why they're doing that with this
28:13
Speaker 1: because again, a lot of them.
28:15
Speaker 3: I just think because of the episodes are short, but
28:18
Speaker 3: they're only thirty minutes long.
28:19
Speaker 1: I mean, you could do it like a fast week.
28:21
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to do all eight at once.
28:23
Speaker 3: You're right, because there were other shows that were only
28:26
Speaker 3: thirty minutes long that they did a couple of week
28:28
Speaker 3: or one a week or yeah, I even tripled up
28:31
Speaker 3: at some points.
28:31
Speaker 2: But yeah, right, I don't I don't know, but it doesn't.
28:36
Speaker 2: It doesn't.
28:38
Speaker 1: It's like in the January like, yeah, well I don't.
28:42
Speaker 2: Well, people are back.
28:43
Speaker 3: It's not like it's at the top of the year
28:44
Speaker 3: where no, everyone's on vacation, right, people are coming back
28:47
Speaker 3: into the fold. So this is I don't think the
28:49
Speaker 3: timing is an issue. It's it's how it's throwing it
28:52
Speaker 3: out behind it. Yeah, and again we live in New York.
28:56
Speaker 3: I live in New York. And it's like when when
28:59
Speaker 3: they on stuff like I use this to train every day.
29:01
Speaker 3: When they on something, Marvel, Disney on something, they on it.
29:04
Speaker 3: You see it everywhere. You know, I don't go to
29:06
Speaker 3: Times Square, but you know, I know that ship is
29:08
Speaker 3: there right like.
29:10
Speaker 4: I've seen like the ads on the subway, et cetera
29:12
Speaker 4: like that. But it's not to the insanity that when,
29:16
Speaker 4: like you say, when they on it, they on it
29:19
Speaker 4: when they really are.
29:19
Speaker 3: And then again, like I said, maybe that is their
29:21
Speaker 3: shad just how they treat tea.
29:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is it's also how they one it's it
29:27
Speaker 4: is been shown. It is kind of how they treat
29:29
Speaker 4: TV black or white. You know, they do like like
29:32
Speaker 4: they did more pumping for Hawkove, but that's Hawkeye, you know,
29:35
Speaker 4: it's hawkatte who's like it's an Avenger, et cetera.
29:38
Speaker 1: You know. But a lot of these TV shows they have,
29:40
Speaker 1: you know.
29:41
Speaker 4: I mean Agatha was you know, Agatha got a little
29:43
Speaker 4: more loved maybe because Agatha came from.
29:45
Speaker 2: The big because of the Internet.
29:47
Speaker 3: Yes, because of Agatha all along everyone you know, you know,
29:51
Speaker 3: it already had a following.
29:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was you know, but a lot of
29:54
Speaker 1: these things they just dump out there.
29:56
Speaker 4: I mean even Born Again, which I thought was you know,
29:59
Speaker 4: one of their biggest problem.
30:00
Speaker 1: What do you think kind of just dumped out there.
30:01
Speaker 1: I felt like this at least the first.
30:02
Speaker 2: Season, well you know, the creative difference is like how
30:05
Speaker 2: they try.
30:05
Speaker 4: To Yeah, yeah, so it is what it is. But no,
30:09
Speaker 4: I thought, wonder, man, was you know, very solid. I
30:13
Speaker 4: do think that you know, it's not going to be
30:15
Speaker 4: for everyone, because if you're looking for something that's leading
30:19
Speaker 4: into doomsday, this ain't it. You know, if you're looking
30:23
Speaker 4: for something that's you know, how to defend into the
30:26
Speaker 4: bigger you know, will you become an avenger.
30:27
Speaker 1: And all that.
30:28
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's in the bigger picture, that it's
30:29
Speaker 2: part of the MCU and.
30:31
Speaker 3: It takes place in the current current timeline about it,
30:34
Speaker 3: and like.
30:35
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like up to speed, like we see
30:37
Speaker 4: references to the latest things that have happened.
30:39
Speaker 3: In like the Rogers musical. You see you see those
30:42
Speaker 3: billboards all over. So like at least you know it's
30:44
Speaker 3: modern Colt modern times and MCU.
30:46
Speaker 4: Yeah so, but like I said, man, I thought this
30:50
Speaker 4: was one of the more daring shows for them to do.
30:52
Speaker 4: I thought it was one of the more interesting shows. Agree,
30:55
Speaker 4: I've really enjoyed.
30:57
Speaker 1: Ben and I mean yah ya and been.
31:01
Speaker 2: Like just they're they're amazing. They're really truly amazing.
31:05
Speaker 4: To there's certain stuff that we have not spoiled. This
31:08
Speaker 4: one episode in particular, oh man, that we just both
31:11
Speaker 4: thought was brilliant, And it's the whole show in general.
31:15
Speaker 4: Like like I said, it's a very the inside, inside
31:19
Speaker 4: access or behind the music of Hollywood that I really enjoyed.
31:25
Speaker 1: And while I say it's not as incisive.
31:27
Speaker 4: Or as dark obviously it's something like Berry, it still
31:31
Speaker 4: really gets it.
31:32
Speaker 3: Really gets it. It has a level, it's still level levity.
31:35
Speaker 2: In it, Yeah, but also dark.
31:37
Speaker 3: It's like kind of dark comedy to a bit. But
31:39
Speaker 3: what like episode four or five is right in the
31:41
Speaker 3: middle of the season.
31:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, just here of brilliance on that one. But like
31:45
Speaker 4: just there's for people who have you know, been in Hollywood,
31:47
Speaker 4: worked in Hollywood. There's shouts to like Mendocino farms, and
31:51
Speaker 4: they make a Mendocino Farms joke where I was falling
31:54
Speaker 4: out of my seat because it's just such a thing
31:57
Speaker 4: if you've ever been I mean probably if you've been
31:59
Speaker 4: in LA but I know when I was in that
32:02
Speaker 4: writer's room, Man, we ate.
32:04
Speaker 1: Way too much of that stuff.
32:05
Speaker 4: So all those little things I loved, I definitely give it,
32:10
Speaker 4: you know, B plus yeah, I'd say product yeah plus yeah.
32:13
Speaker 3: And you know, even though it's not straight super focused
32:18
Speaker 3: or you know, the super character version of these people focused,
32:22
Speaker 3: it still utilizes them well when they do see it.
32:26
Speaker 2: Again, Remember Trevor Slattery played the fake.
32:29
Speaker 3: Mandarin, so that comes into play right like that, Like, no,
32:34
Speaker 3: that's not who you see and that's not who you
32:36
Speaker 3: get in most of the episodes, but that is that
32:39
Speaker 3: it holds bearing on how he interacts with people, how
32:43
Speaker 3: people interact with him, and so on so and what
32:46
Speaker 3: people think about him. And that's what one of the
32:48
Speaker 3: last things I'm going to say about why I really
32:50
Speaker 3: like this show and why it works so well is
32:53
Speaker 3: something I had many years ago about Marvel movies where
32:56
Speaker 3: I was just like, so, what happened so like that
32:59
Speaker 3: little kid you ran over or what happened to their life?
33:01
Speaker 3: And what happened like the consequences thereof of all these actions. Right, well,
33:05
Speaker 3: y'all knock down that fucking building a big up fanels, Okay,
33:09
Speaker 3: but what about the kid that you just orphaned?
33:10
Speaker 2: What happened to that?
33:11
Speaker 1: Right?
33:11
Speaker 3: Like this, this gives at least on a character level,
33:16
Speaker 3: the consequences of their decisions. Right, Like, you decided you
33:20
Speaker 3: wanted to play a terrorist, and this is what happens.
33:22
Speaker 2: When you play.
33:23
Speaker 3: You want to play, you know, you don't want to
33:25
Speaker 3: do something safe. This is what happens, you know, this
33:26
Speaker 3: is what you get. So I liked seeing that, Like
33:29
Speaker 3: it was realistic in that way, as they say, it
33:32
Speaker 3: was street level in that way.
33:34
Speaker 1: And speaking of street level, one of the great quotes
33:36
Speaker 1: from the wire you wanted to be in the game.
33:38
Speaker 1: Right now you're in the game. Yeah, so that's Trevor,
33:47
Speaker 1: like a terrorist. Now you're a terrorist.
33:52
Speaker 2: What would you what would you rate? What would you
33:54
Speaker 2: rate wonder Man?
33:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, I'll give it definitely B plus,
33:58
Speaker 4: very solid.
34:00
Speaker 2: Why not okay?
34:01
Speaker 1: One out of ten? I'd say about an eight, you.
34:04
Speaker 2: Know, Okay, it's like why not an A or ten?
34:08
Speaker 4: Now saying A because it does what it wants to do,
34:11
Speaker 4: I mean, what it set out to do, but what
34:13
Speaker 4: it set out to do, it is an A And
34:15
Speaker 4: something that I will say, even though it is a
34:18
Speaker 4: radical reimagining of the wonder Man character, it is true
34:22
Speaker 4: to the essence of what wonder Man is all about
34:25
Speaker 4: and that, to me, I think is what matters when
34:28
Speaker 4: you're doing an interpretation.
34:30
Speaker 1: And for those fans of Wonder Man.
34:33
Speaker 4: You do get to see all of his gloriously horrible,
34:37
Speaker 4: ugly costumes at one point or another during this series,
34:40
Speaker 4: and they're all there in full shine. They're all as
34:44
Speaker 4: horrible as you remember. And look, I'm a dude who
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Speaker 4: grew up on Wonder Man. I love the red Safari jacket,
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Speaker 4: but my man's fashion choices were abysmal.
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Speaker 2: I give it an A.
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Speaker 3: And I didn't want to change your your grade if
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Speaker 3: that's really how you felt when you said be at first.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, know, but like I said, because I think
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Speaker 4: I'm greaty to be on like trying to because you
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Speaker 4: know how to defend in the Marvel and that's not
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Speaker 4: fair to it, I think.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay.
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Speaker 3: So as far as how does it fit into like
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Speaker 3: that Marvel formula, it doesn't.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And for what it is and what it's trying
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Speaker 4: to be a show about a superpowered person trying to
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Speaker 4: make it as an after in Hollywood and dealing with
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Speaker 4: some of the ramifications of previous things that have happened
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Speaker 4: in MCU, it's definitely an a.
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Speaker 1: It does all that perfectly.
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Speaker 3: It's absolutely and it actually does what a lot of
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Speaker 3: us have been asking for, which is do something different.
35:33
Speaker 2: Stop bringing me the old characters and this and that.
35:36
Speaker 3: Like it's actually doing it now. I hope that people
35:39
Speaker 3: watch it. And as mentioned admittedly, I was one of
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Speaker 3: the ones that was just like, I don't know about this,
35:43
Speaker 3: but I was wrong, Like.
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Speaker 2: Y'all have to watch this. This was incredible.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: No, I definitely give it an a for what it.
35:51
Speaker 4: You know, set out and tried to do it, does
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Speaker 4: it and does it very well to me? Yeah, like
35:56
Speaker 4: I say to Ben and yah ya, just absolutely amazing.
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Speaker 1: I thought the man. I mean, I loved demandering, I
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Speaker 1: loved the Mandarin flip.
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Speaker 4: As I've said many a time, Iron Man three is
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Speaker 4: one of my favorite MCU movies of all time. I
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Speaker 4: feel I'm constantly being redeemed and rewarded the longer time
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Speaker 4: goes on, because people are seeing the greatness of because they're.
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Speaker 2: Getting they're making money.
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Speaker 3: I mean when I say making money, I just mean
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Speaker 3: like they actually coming up better than I thought they
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Speaker 3: was with all the stuff that I ain't like about it,
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Speaker 3: It's like now they're utilizing it to the full tics.
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Speaker 4: And I see I loved all that from the jump
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Speaker 4: because when he busting on demandering and he was in
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Speaker 4: the bathroom and he had the shorties in the bed,
36:37
Speaker 4: I was in the theater like rolling, and I could
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Speaker 4: feel the theater around me grown, you know, as they
36:44
Speaker 4: realized that they weren't going to get the Mandarin and.
36:47
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like, yes, yes, yes, this is so greatious.
36:51
Speaker 4: I remember when we were in Eternals and the thing
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Speaker 4: cut off before the oh yeah, we got to see
36:58
Speaker 4: an early screening of Eternals and the film ended before
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Speaker 4: the end credit sequence. And because Eternal was a long
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Speaker 4: ass movie and a lot of people in the theater
37:08
Speaker 4: were just there for the in credit sequence.
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Speaker 1: The whole theater because we were.
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Speaker 4: There with media, et cetera, and they was erupted in
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Speaker 4: groans and screams.
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Speaker 3: Me.
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Speaker 4: I was hot in my mind on mushrooms and I
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Speaker 4: thought it was the funniest thing in the world.
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Speaker 1: So I started rolling laughing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So wonder Man on Disney Plus highly
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