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Fictional Women Around the World: Astrid Hofferson · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I've never told you productive iHeartRadio,
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  Speaker 2: and welcome to another step sub sub subsub segment fictional
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  Speaker 2: women around the World today. I guess spoilers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about Astrid from How to Train Your Dragon.
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  Speaker 2: So that is a book series that became a animated
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  Speaker 2: film series that is now a live action series. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so I feel like the spoilers have passed, but maybe
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  Speaker 2: you've just seen the live action one and you don't
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  Speaker 2: want any more. Also, they could do something else, but
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  Speaker 2: actually I'm going to talk about this more. Apparently after
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the kind of Disney live action movies failed,
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  Speaker 2: Universal was like you were doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Shot for shots. Is just the animated.
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  Speaker 2: Movie live Okay, maybe they won't have that many options
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  Speaker 2: to change. I don't know, but anyway, spoilers. I did
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  Speaker 2: watch this movie recently. So at the live one, we
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  Speaker 2: are talking about Ashod Hofferson from How to Train Your Dragon,
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  Speaker 2: who is featured in the movies, anti v shows and
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  Speaker 2: the comics of this very successful franchise that just opened
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  Speaker 2: Universal Theme Parks. And this is sponsored by the way,
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  Speaker 2: we always have to say if it is. So they
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  Speaker 2: just opened in Universal a new theme park called Epic Universe,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a whole section that's just How to Train
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  Speaker 2: Your Dragon.
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  Speaker 1: So oh, I saw that opened and I thought this
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  Speaker 1: one misspelled Epic.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, go ahead, they might have I don't know, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was like Universal and they were doing
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  Speaker 2: it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Well, now I am the person who is like,
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  Speaker 2: watched for the POV if you're riding their roller coaster video?
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  Speaker 1: Is I love roller coasters that much? Yeah? I watched
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  Speaker 1: all of the How To Train Your Dragon ones?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, and it did have this live action remake
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  Speaker 2: that came out of the first movie and it was
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  Speaker 2: very successful. As I've mentioned before, Despite not really having
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  Speaker 2: a strong connection between this and my dad, for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: this series became my whole life after he died.
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  Speaker 1: I read all the.
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  Speaker 2: Books, I watched all the shows. I cosplayed as Hiccup
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  Speaker 2: Dragon con Well. My friend went as Astrid. So it
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  Speaker 2: sort of has this bittersweet feeling for me now, like
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  Speaker 2: I have to prep myself to watch them.
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this is morbid, but I watched the live action
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  Speaker 2: one on the anniversary of my Dud's death. That was
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  Speaker 2: the thing I did it, okay, you know do yes?
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  Speaker 2: And I have a friend who gave me a toothless
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  Speaker 2: it's the dragon pillow pet and so I was talking
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  Speaker 2: that and I watched the movie.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty good. It was a good calm day.
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  Speaker 1: It was nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And if anyone has seen all the movies, you
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  Speaker 2: might think that's an interesting series or someone who's giving their.
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  Speaker 1: Father to attach to. I can't tell you, man, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know where this came from.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I did watch those as they came out. I
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  Speaker 2: think I saw all of them in theaters. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: I really liked them.
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  Speaker 1: I love the music.
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  Speaker 2: It always moves me. I don't know, I was super
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  Speaker 2: into them. And the animated version, Astrod is voiced by
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  Speaker 2: America Fererra. In the live action version, she's played by
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  Speaker 2: Nico Parker. And we've talked about how the internet is
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  Speaker 2: awful and was like, well, that's not accurate to have
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  Speaker 2: a black woman play this character, and what about her hair?
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  Speaker 2: Never mind that they're like dragons flying about and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sure, like the Viking costume, how accurate is that?
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I do know that that is a thing,
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  Speaker 2: and we talked about it in a recent episode even
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  Speaker 2: though where that escapes me, but.
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  Speaker 1: We have talked about it. We do a lot of episodes,
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  Speaker 1: so many.
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  Speaker 2: How to Train Your Dragon is a fictional universe in
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  Speaker 2: which vikings primarily focused here on Vikings from the island
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  Speaker 2: of Burke, though they do go to some other islands
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  Speaker 2: are hounded by dragons stealing their food. The main character, Hiccup,
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  Speaker 2: is the son of Burke's Chief Stoic, and Stoic and
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  Speaker 2: Hiccup are complete opposites. Hiccup is a scrawny, clumsy kid
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  Speaker 2: has never killed a dragon.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty yeah, he.
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  Speaker 2: Causes a lot of disasters in his wake. Stoic is
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  Speaker 2: like this huge, buff top dragon slayer. And then you
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  Speaker 2: have Astid, who is fifteen in the first movie, is
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  Speaker 2: the up and coming dragon slayer. She's very proficient. She's
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  Speaker 2: a favorite to when their dragon contest where you have
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  Speaker 2: to face the dragon and then you're like next in
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  Speaker 2: line to be the chief. Like, so she's the one
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  Speaker 2: that everybody's looking to. Hiccup of course, has a huge
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  Speaker 2: crush on her, but she sees him as largely a nuisance.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, get out of my weight, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to succeed exactly yes.
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  Speaker 2: During their dragon training sessions where the teens of Burke
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  Speaker 2: learn how to face Dragon's inner ring, Astrod is really
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  Speaker 2: annoyed by Hiccup's sudden dominance. She's very competitive and he's
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  Speaker 2: never been close, not even close to competing with her before.
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  Speaker 2: So annoyed, she starts training harder, and she notices Hiccup
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  Speaker 2: sneaking off into the woods. This is really fun to
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  Speaker 2: tell it from her point of view, because in the
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  Speaker 2: movie you get it from Hiccup's point of view, but
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  Speaker 2: I tried to tell it from her point of view.
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  Speaker 2: So one day she follows him and learns that he
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  Speaker 2: is feeding, healing, and helping a dragon, a rare night
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  Speaker 2: theory that Hiccup has named Toothless. Hiccup had hit Toothless
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  Speaker 2: and damage to dragon's wing with one of his inventions,
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  Speaker 2: but couldn't find it in himself to kill him, so
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  Speaker 2: instead he helps repair the dragon's wing with another invention
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  Speaker 2: so that the dragon could escape the enclosure that he's
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  Speaker 2: trapped in. The Only issue is Toothless needs Hiccup to
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  Speaker 2: fly because it's kind of a system that has a
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  Speaker 2: Hiccup has to push down and move his foot to activate,
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  Speaker 2: so they have to work together. So Astrid freaks out
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  Speaker 2: this and tries to run, but Toothless and Hiccup kind
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  Speaker 2: of kidnap her. They're like scoop her up and they
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  Speaker 2: take her on a joy ride, and she comes to
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  Speaker 2: accept how awesome riding on the dragon is, just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is really cool, seemingly through a hive mind situation.
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  Speaker 2: Toothless leads them to the dragon's nash, which just something
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  Speaker 2: Hiccup's dad has been looking for his long sought after
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  Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, Hiccup's mother was supposedly killed
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  Speaker 2: by dragons.
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  Speaker 1: That's a different episode.
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  Speaker 2: Toothless and a bunch of other dragons drop off the
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  Speaker 2: fish that they've been collecting from the Viking villages into
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  Speaker 2: what looks like a volcano, and this huge, huge dragon
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  Speaker 2: surges up out of it, eating all of the fish
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  Speaker 2: and any dragons that get in a way too. Hiccup
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  Speaker 2: and Ashid realize that the big dragon is controlling all
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  Speaker 2: the other dragons and compelling them to steal from Burke
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  Speaker 2: and the Vikings to feed it. Ashtrid promises not to
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  Speaker 2: tell Hiccup's dad that she's very very curious what he's
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  Speaker 2: going to do since their dragon finals are coming up,
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  Speaker 2: and hiccups the leader at this point, and the leader
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  Speaker 2: has to kill the dragon, and so yeah, this is
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  Speaker 2: by studying Toothless. This is where he got his newfound prowess,
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  Speaker 2: because it turns out most the dragons are like scratching
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  Speaker 2: behind the air and I'll just lay back.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really want to kill you or anything.
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  Speaker 2: Hiccup decides to prove in the Ring that dragons aren't
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  Speaker 2: dangerous and that they're misunderstood, but it goes wrong for
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  Speaker 2: a variety of reasons, and Astrid goes in to help Hiccup,
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  Speaker 2: and then Toothless escapes and comes to the rescue, and
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna kill all these humans that he sees as
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  Speaker 2: a threat to Hiccup. He only stops because Hiccup is like, please,
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  Speaker 2: don't do it, but it's not what I want. And
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  Speaker 2: Toothless is captured and forced to lead the Vikings to
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  Speaker 2: the dragon's nest despite Hiccup's desperate warning. And this is
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  Speaker 2: where the dad and Hiccup have a huge fight that
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  Speaker 2: I'm still mad about to this day, because the dad
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  Speaker 2: really should have listened more throughout this time, Astrid has
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  Speaker 2: been really supportive and she's a blunt presence who has
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  Speaker 2: changed her mind about dragons. When Hiccup is down, she's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you screwed up. What are you gonna do about it?
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  Speaker 2: When he tells her his plan, she says, that's more
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  Speaker 2: like it and back them all the way. She has
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  Speaker 2: a couple of instances of saying like, that's not like it.
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  Speaker 2: Hiccup says of her, you know exactly who you are,
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  Speaker 2: you always have. You're well, You're Astrid, You're strong and invincible.
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  Speaker 2: So the plan is the group of teams fly the
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  Speaker 2: dragons that were caged on Burke to the dragon's nest,
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  Speaker 2: and they saved the day and they changed the vikings
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  Speaker 2: beliefs on dragons. Hiccup loses his foot and he gets
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  Speaker 2: like a metal foot and that helps him fly with
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  Speaker 2: toothless more easily. Toothless save saved him from dying. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Ashra did and Hiccup kiss and they get together and
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  Speaker 2: she becomes a top dragon rider with her dragon Stormfly.
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  Speaker 2: Many many adventures in sue I can't put them all
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  Speaker 2: in here. There's like TV shows, there's Christmas specials.
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  Speaker 1: And all kinds of things.
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  Speaker 2: We do learn that Astrid, when she was younger, she
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  Speaker 2: felt underestimated and that she had to prove herself because
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  Speaker 2: of her gen She has a lot of pride, loyalty,
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  Speaker 2: and drive, as well as a real willingness to learn
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  Speaker 2: and change, as difficult as it might be, because at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning you would think she would never get on
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  Speaker 2: board with this whole dragon thing, but she became like
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  Speaker 2: one of the first supporters and then one of the
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  Speaker 2: best dragon writers, and she's always on missions to help
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  Speaker 2: save dragons. After this, she also has like she's pretty proud,
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  Speaker 2: so some of the people in the group she was
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  Speaker 2: pretty judgmental of, but they become close friends, so she
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  Speaker 2: also changes in that way. By the time of the
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  Speaker 2: second film, she is more relaxed than she was in
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  Speaker 2: the first. She's more comfortable with herself. She's in she's twenty.
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  Speaker 2: In the second one, she remains an emotional support for Hiccup,
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  Speaker 2: even as his dad dies and he learns that his
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  Speaker 2: mother has been alive the full time yep uh. The
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  Speaker 2: pair go on to get married and they have two kids,
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  Speaker 2: and they lead Birke together. They eventually introduced the two
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  Speaker 2: kids to because at the end of the third one,
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  Speaker 2: Toothless flies away with the light Fury and they have
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  Speaker 2: baby dragons. But they had been separated for so long,
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  Speaker 2: Hiccup wasn't sure Toothless would remember him or like attack him,
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  Speaker 2: but they He goes and reintroduces himself and Toothless or
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  Speaker 2: remembers and they introduce each other's kids to each other.
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  Speaker 1: It's very sweet.
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  Speaker 2: Both of Hiccup's parents were very fond of Astrod, and
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  Speaker 2: Astik worked well with both of them. She was very
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  Speaker 2: like well liked by his family. So, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: there's so many plot lines I could go over, but
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  Speaker 2: we would never get out of here. She is incredibly,
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  Speaker 2: incredibly skilled. You want her on your team, not just
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  Speaker 2: in combat, dragon flying, in strategy, but in how she
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  Speaker 2: builds others up.
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  Speaker 1: She does.
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  Speaker 2: She does also resort to cartoon violence pretty often, so
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  Speaker 2: there's that. So like with Hiccup, she always says that's
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  Speaker 2: for kissing.
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  Speaker 1: Me, and that's for everything else.
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, she's got that kind of vibe and she does.
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  Speaker 2: You see her insecurities, like around being a girl when
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  Speaker 2: she was younger, but also just that very kind thing
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  Speaker 2: that Hiccup said to her, like you're invincible of like
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  Speaker 2: what if I'm not. And then when Hiccup started beating
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  Speaker 2: her in the competition, Oh no, no, no no. And
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  Speaker 2: I know there's an argument to be made that a
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  Speaker 2: lot of her character is support for Hiccup, But since
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  Speaker 2: she's such a force herself, I'm not sure it's a
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  Speaker 2: bad thing, because she's kind of like, she's sort of
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  Speaker 2: the I'm already here, yeah, and come up.
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  Speaker 1: Here with me. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I Like I said, this is still Hiccup and Toothless's
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  Speaker 2: story at large, but she sees so much growth, like
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  Speaker 2: emotionally and just comfort in herself and confidence in herself.
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  Speaker 2: It was fun to try to tell it from her
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  Speaker 2: point of view, just what she must have been thinking
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  Speaker 2: when makeup was sneaking off into the woods.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that she's a pretty equal character.
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  Speaker 2: It's still their story, but I feel like she's really
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  Speaker 2: important in it, and she's pretty she's pretty equal. They
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  Speaker 2: always go on missions together. They're like a there's a
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  Speaker 2: fan fiction turn from that combat couple.
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  Speaker 1: Combat couple. Of of course you.
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