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Doug Band And His Epstein Related Congressional Transcript (Part 8) (7/25/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
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  Speaker 1: left off with Doug Band and his interview with Congress.
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  Speaker 1: Question and mister Band, just to follow up on that
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  Speaker 1: answer sure question, Who's Alan Dershowitz? Answer? Alan Dershowitz is
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  Speaker 1: a who is he today? I don't know how he
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  Speaker 1: would describe himself. I mean he's a lawyer. He's a
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  Speaker 1: friend of President Clinton's from Martha's Vineyard from the nineties
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  Speaker 1: when I was staffing the President I met Allen. Question
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  Speaker 1: and what's your relationship Dlan Dershowitz. Answer? I don't recall
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  Speaker 1: talking Dlan Dershowitz in the last ten to fifteen years,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe even well beyond that. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have any relationship with mister Dershowitz. Question what was
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  Speaker 1: your understanding of mister Dershowitz's relationship to Epstein? Answer? I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea or knowledge of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've read things and heard things again in
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  Speaker 1: recent years, but I don't think I remember or no.
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  Speaker 1: Question have you ever discussed allegations of sexual abuse against
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  Speaker 1: mister Dershowitz with mister Dershowitz answer no, mister Lynch, mister band,
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  Speaker 1: how many times did you fly on mister Epstein's aircraft? Band?
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall. I think again, from in preparation for
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  Speaker 1: today seeing the flight logs, I flew on the plane
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  Speaker 1: stabbing President Clinton several times, mister Lynch several, meaning more
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  Speaker 1: than five band. I believe, so, Lynch, more than ten band.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number, but yeah, I think so,
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  Speaker 1: mister Lynch, more than ten band, I think so, yeah, Lynch, okay,
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  Speaker 1: more than fifteen band? I believe so. The logs well, again,
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  Speaker 1: the logs were written by someone else, but I believe
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  Speaker 1: I was staffing the President on various trips, and those
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  Speaker 1: had different legs of them. So yes, mister Lynch, more
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  Speaker 1: than twenty band. I don't know, Lynch. You said a
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  Speaker 1: few and were over fifteen already band, I said several. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Lynch, you said several were over fifteen band. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number, Lynch, Okay, band, this
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  Speaker 1: is a long time ago, Lynch. In any of those
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  Speaker 1: flights fifteen flights, were there young women on the plane? Band?
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  Speaker 1: Not that I recall, Lynch, do you have any firsthand
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  Speaker 1: knowledge of Epstein's relationship with any of the following individuals,
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  Speaker 1: and if yes, what was your understanding of that relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Sultan Ahmed bin Suliman ban no, Howard Lutnik ban no.
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  Speaker 1: Paulo zan Polli ban no. Do you know him? Band
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  Speaker 1: I met him many many years ago. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a relationship with him. And again subsequently read about the
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  Speaker 1: things in recent times, mister Lynch, but you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the nature of his relationship with Epstein would be.
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  Speaker 1: Band No, Sir, I do not, Lynch. Robert F. Kennedy
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  Speaker 1: currently the Secretary of HHS. Band I don't know. Question
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  Speaker 1: you have to answer yes or no. Band I'm sorry, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry Lynch. Kathy Rumler ban no. Question. Was she
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  Speaker 1: employed with the president at the same time you were there?
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  Speaker 1: Band I'm sorry, Lynch. Was she employed with the president
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  Speaker 1: at the same time you were there? Band Kathy Rumler Lynch, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: band I don't know her. I don't think she ever
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  Speaker 1: worked for President Clinton. Lynch. She was a White House counsel.
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  Speaker 1: Ban not for the president Lynch. Steve Vannon band no,
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  Speaker 1: Leo Botstein No, No. M Chomsky. No, the journalist Michael Wolfe. No.
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  Speaker 1: How about Sarah Ferguson No, former Duchess of York. No.
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  Speaker 1: How about Peter Mandelson, a British politician. No. Kimball Musk,
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  Speaker 1: no question, So you don't know any connection between him
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  Speaker 1: and Epstein? Band? I'm sorry, I don't know who that is.
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  Speaker 1: Lynch Elon Musk's brother. Band. No, mister Lynch Martin Noak
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  Speaker 1: Harvard Professor of Mathematics and Biology band. No. How about
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  Speaker 1: Richard Branson of Virgin Group Virgin Atlantic. No. How about
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  Speaker 1: the magician David Copperfield. No, how about David Blaine. No?
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  Speaker 1: How about Frederick Fokai No, Henry Drecki no, Stephen Hansen no,
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  Speaker 1: Jean of Brunel No, mister Lynch, have you ever been
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  Speaker 1: on an aircraft with them? Brunel? I know he's a
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  Speaker 1: frequent flyer as well. Band. I don't recall ever being
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  Speaker 1: on an aircraft with them. I don't know who that is,
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  Speaker 1: mister Lynch Okay, Alan Dershowitz band no, Glenn Dubin no,
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  Speaker 1: edwud Barock No, mister Lynch. That's all I have redacted.
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  Speaker 1: We'll stop there and go off the record. Mister Harness.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go back on the record, mister Grant. Before we begin,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to know for the record that mister
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  Speaker 1: Conna and mister Perry were both present in the last
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  Speaker 1: hour and did not ask any questions. Question mister Band
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  Speaker 1: by mister Harness, I would like to enter into the
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  Speaker 1: record majority exhibit too. This is a message Shain on
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  Speaker 1: April twenty first, two thousand and two, from the WJC
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  Speaker 1: email address to Miss Maxwell's email address. It's marked with
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  Speaker 1: Bates number EFTA zero two three three five six oh seven.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you a minute to look that over, mister Band.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at the bottom message from the WJC email address,
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  Speaker 1: it reads, By the way, the social matchmaker part is
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  Speaker 1: pretty right on. I would have told them that you
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  Speaker 1: are my pimp, but that at the same time you
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  Speaker 1: are my lover. Mister Band, did you write this message? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall that message. Question, but it's from the
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  Speaker 1: WJC email address. So did you write the message? Answer? Well,
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  Speaker 1: as I said, I don't recall sending it, and TIRA
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  Speaker 1: just like looks like it says you wrote, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who you is. I'm not trying to be argumentative,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Mace. Is it that you don't recall or that
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  Speaker 1: it didn't happen? Band I don't recall whether it happened
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  Speaker 1: or not, Mace. Did your lawyers advise you to say
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  Speaker 1: you don't recall anything you didn't want to discuss today, Shapiro,
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  Speaker 1: don't discuss the legal advice your lawyers give you, Miss Mace.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a law degree? Band? Yes, ma'am Mace.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what they teach you in law school that
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  Speaker 1: you don't recall? Mister Green, I'm sorry, what was the question,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Mace? Is that what they teach you in law school?
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  Speaker 1: Tell your clients you don't recall when you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about something. Is that what they teach you
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  Speaker 1: in law school? Where did you go to law school?
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  Speaker 1: I went to Georgetown, man, Miss Mace. Okay, do dumb
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  Speaker 1: people go to Georgetown? Mister Band, I don't know, Nancy Mace.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have to be smart to get into Georgetown? Band?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the Georgetown in Mission's office. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Mace. What was your LSAT score to get into Georgetown? Band?
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  Speaker 1: I did not do well on my LSAT as? Are recall?
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  Speaker 1: Miss Mace? What did you graduate? You graduated right, so
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  Speaker 1: you had passing scores? What were your grades? A's, bc'sf's, band,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I went part time at law school.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't a very president student because I was working
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  Speaker 1: full time, Miss Mace. Are you saying that you're dumb? Band? No, ma'am,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just answering your questions, Miss Mace. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: memory issues? Have you been diagnosed with any memory recall
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  Speaker 1: issues by a health practitioner? Mister Band No? Mace okay?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any memory issues? Band? Not that I
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  Speaker 1: know of, Miss Mace. How old are you? Mister Band
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  Speaker 1: fifty three? Miss Mace? Okay? Question by mister Harness. Did
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  Speaker 1: you ever refer to Maxwell as your pimp? Answer? I
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  Speaker 1: don't recall ever referring to her as such. Question, But again,
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  Speaker 1: this is from the WJC email address that you wrote
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  Speaker 1: to Miss Maxwell. Outside of this email did you ever
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  Speaker 1: refer to miss Maxwell as your pimp? Answer? I don't
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  Speaker 1: ever recall referring to her as that question? Did you
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  Speaker 1: ever refer to her as your lover? Answer? I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall referring to her as that question. I would like
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  Speaker 1: to introduce majority Exhibit three. This is two separate email
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  Speaker 1: chains that have been compiled by the committee. The first
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  Speaker 1: chain with the bates number EFTA zero zero zero one
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  Speaker 1: one four to three four, and the second with the
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  Speaker 1: bates number EFTA zero zero five eight one eight two nine.
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  Speaker 1: First email, ending in fourteen thirty four, is between you
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  Speaker 1: and miss Maxwell, but does not include a date. However,
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  Speaker 1: the second email, which is just the same message as
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  Speaker 1: the first email that's forwarded by Miss Maxwell to Philip Levine,
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  Speaker 1: was sent on September seventeenth, two thousand and one. I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you a minute to review that question. Just look
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  Speaker 1: at the second sentence again from the first email ending
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  Speaker 1: fourteen thirty four. The second sentence reads from Miss Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: to your personal GSA dot gov account. When we're all
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  Speaker 1: back in New York, the plan is to do dinner.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have the slutty Spanish girl, which will be nicely
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  Speaker 1: counterbalanced by the cool pois Swedish type mister band. Did
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  Speaker 1: you receive this message from Miss Maxwell? Answer? I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall this message at all. Question did you receive it
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  Speaker 1: from Miss Maxwell? Answer? As I said, I didn't recall.
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall this message or ever receiving it. Miss
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  Speaker 1: Mace jumps in again. Do you believe you have any
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  Speaker 1: reason to think that this document's not accurate? Band? I
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  Speaker 1: don't have any reason to believe it is or isn't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I don't recall it, Miss Mace.
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  Speaker 1: Is it that you don't recall it or it didn't happen? Band?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, as you said, I don't recall receiving it,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Mace. So you're gonna sit here today and you
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  Speaker 1: can't tell the committee if it occurred or it didn't occur. Band.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I don't recall receiving this email
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  Speaker 1: from twenty five years Mace, Okay, all right. Question that
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  Speaker 1: is your email address? Correct answer? I believe that is.
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  Speaker 1: I had a GSA email address shortly after leaving the
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  Speaker 1: White House. Yeah. Question do you know who miss Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: is referring to in the terms of Spanish girl? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. Question did you ever meet anyone
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  Speaker 1: that fits that description that was associated or connected with
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  Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell and Epstein? Answer? I don't recall meeting anybody
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  Speaker 1: with that description. Question did you ever meet a Swedish
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  Speaker 1: woman or young girl that was associated to or connected
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  Speaker 1: with Miss Maxwell or mister Epstein? Answer, I don't recall
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  Speaker 1: ever meeting that person. Question. She goes on to say,
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  Speaker 1: let me know when you next go to Europe, as
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  Speaker 1: I do have some interesting and fun friends that could
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  Speaker 1: hook you up. Mister band, did you ever meet up
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  Speaker 1: with any person or people that had any association to
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  Speaker 1: Glean Maxwell or mister Epstein in Europe? Answer not that
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  Speaker 1: I recall. Mister Emmer, did you ever travel to Europe
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  Speaker 1: with Maxwell or Epstein band? While I think you asked
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  Speaker 1: earlier about Morocco trip and other trips, I don't ever
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  Speaker 1: recall traveling with them to Europe, but possible sure. Question
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  Speaker 1: by mister Harneice. Question, so the email that you received
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  Speaker 1: from miss Maxwell was around the time of nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Do you still not recall the email? This is the
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  Speaker 1: week of nine to eleven. You don't recall ever receiving
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  Speaker 1: the email. Answer? I don't ever recall receiving the email.
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  Speaker 1: Question did you ever reply to that email? Answer? I
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  Speaker 1: don't ever recall receiving it, So I have no idea. Question.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to introduce majority Exhibit four, which is
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  Speaker 1: a message shine between the WJC email address and Glaine
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell occurring on November two, two thousand and two. This
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  Speaker 1: is marked with debates number EFTA zero zero five A
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  Speaker 1: two one nine three. I'll give you a moment to
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  Speaker 1: read that. Answer. Thanks. Question the bottom message from WJC
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  Speaker 1: at five twenty one pm. You're right, what's your deal tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Did you just want to ascertain what Miss Maxwell was
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  Speaker 1: up to around this time? Answer again, I'm sorry, I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember this email at all, and I don't see
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  Speaker 1: who it's from. At the bottom you said you wrote,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that I wrote that, but I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Question that message, Shane, whatever the bottom is is from
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  Speaker 1: the WJC going to Glenn Maxwell, So then the top
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  Speaker 1: message would be from miss Maxwell. Miss Maxwell then writes,
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  Speaker 1: We're going to the movies and then we will meet you.
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  Speaker 1: Two questions where plus there is a crew here redacted
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  Speaker 1: plus two Brazilians? Can they come to if we come Thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever meet up with Miss Maxwell around this date? Answer? No,
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  Speaker 1: not that I recall. I don't know. Question did miss
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell ever introduce you to two Brazilians? Answer not that
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  Speaker 1: I can recall. Question what was miss Maxwell referring to
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  Speaker 1: in the two Brazilians? Were they young women or girls? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think you should ask miss Maxwell.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Question, this is an email that you received.
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  Speaker 1: You're on this chain, mister Bann correct answer. Well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not disputing that, but I don't know where it says
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  Speaker 1: that this is from me. You're saying it's to me,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't see unless I'm missing something where it
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  Speaker 1: says at the bottom. It just says five twenty one
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  Speaker 1: PM eleven to two, two thousand and two. Question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like I just said, but the bottom message, the earlier
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  Speaker 1: message at five twenty one, that is your you writing
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  Speaker 1: from the WJC. What you see above is Maxwell writing
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  Speaker 1: back to you. Correct? Do you agree? Answer? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't remember the email, so I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to say that this is from me because it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't say WJC on it. I mean, it doesn't say
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  Speaker 1: an email address on the bottom. I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: be combative. I'm just saying I don't remember it, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't see it. I have no idea. Question regardless
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  Speaker 1: where you ever introduced twenty group of women around Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: that were associated with or connected to Maxwell? Answer not
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  Speaker 1: that I recall. Question do you know what's underneath a
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  Speaker 1: redacted message. Answer, I don't remember the email in the
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  Speaker 1: first place, so no. Question. Did you ever meet any
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  Speaker 1: woman associated with or connected to Miss Maxwell named Sarah? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I vaguely remember she had someone that worked for named Sarah. Oh, Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know which one. Question do you recall when
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  Speaker 1: you met Sarah? Answer? I recall she several years ago
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  Speaker 1: was married to someone that was a friend of a friend,
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  Speaker 1: and I saw her out a few times with them.
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  Speaker 1: Question and who was that? Answer Brian Vickers. Question do
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  Speaker 1: you recall the nature of your conversations with Sarah? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I do not. Question do you recall anybody else when
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  Speaker 1: you had met Sarah? Answer? I don't. All right, folks,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here, and in the
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  Speaker 1: next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up
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  Speaker 1: where we left off. All the information that goes with
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