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MotoGP Japan 2025 Round 17 Recap in S5 Ep 31 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  Welcome back to another edition of the Beef Ever Cool podcast.
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  Might as well might as well say global podcast cause a lot of
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  people are liking what we're doing.
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  My name is Rex 45. We got a lot to cover tonight,
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  you know, we got Moto America, we got World Super Bike, we got
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  Moto GP, there's some championships crowned, there's
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  some back stories. We're going to have a lot of fun
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  left, but let's bring out bring the fellas in one at a time and
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  see how things are going. What's going on TJ, man, welcome
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  to the show. You got to take in Jersey,
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  Jersey as a as a as a as a fan. So how you doing man?
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  I'm doing great. It was a long drive.
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  It was a fun experience. I love going, you know, every
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  time. It's my second time going to
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  Jersey. But it was a great atmosphere as
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  always. The weather was perfect, you
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  know, did some tests riding there on a couple bikes that
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  they had and demos and walked around and see some of the
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  racers and watched all the races.
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  So took an OL in. Hi, listen, Mary.
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  Well, there's a lot to cover cause a lot happened.
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  Grace, man, welcome back to the show.
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  Man, what's good? I was good man, glad to be back
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  in long weekend, crazy weekend so.
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  You know, I'm looking forward to hearing about it.
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  It's, it's, you know, from from my standpoint, it looks like a
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  successful season overall. But if you don't get the taste
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  of champagne at the end, you can't really spell success.
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  So how are things? No, I mean, we'll get into that.
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  I mean, I mean overall still a good year, you know, still good.
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  We got some positive info, some positive data coming back.
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  So we're ready and just gearing up here for a world sewer bike
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  so. That's what's up.
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  I can't wait to hear about that. We're going to bring everyone
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  in. I mean you let's try it out
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  there we go technology. It looks like Lewis we got we
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  took too long for Lewis. We're waiting for him to connect
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  back, but we'll jump into it. We'll start with TJ man, come
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  on, give me give us the play by play of of of the weekend.
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  First of all, you got free tickets.
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  So that that was cool. You know, so I'll need to start
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  from there. Like I said before the show
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  start, this is anything you want to talk about it kind of show.
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  Man, so I was just there just seeing what it what everything I
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  had to offer. Obviously I was just waiting for
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  the Super bike race and I want to see, you know, the three
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  races that was going to happen during the weekend, man.
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  Like what can I say? They, they put it down like
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  Bobby the, the, the three top runners, Bobby Cam Beauvier and
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  Gerald Sharon. So they really actually put in a
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  fight this whole weekend, all three of them battling
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  throughout all three races. So it was really good to see
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  watching at different turns and just their preparations, stuff
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  like that. So and and.
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  Like, what was the atmosphere like, you know, just getting
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  around the paddock and stuff, getting access to people, you
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  know, what was that like? I mean, it was, it was busy.
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  I mean, everyone's moving each direction, like on scooters, on
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  bicycles or whatever you want to call it that it has two wheels.
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  People walk in cars driving, people Wheeling tires.
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  It was just a busy moment. Demo rides coming in and out.
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  So I mean, if he wasn't on one of the stands watching the
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  races, he'd pretty much going to miss everything.
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  But you, you, there's a lot of entertainment, a lot of good
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  food, music, a lot of good vendors, free stuff.
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  And there's some good, good, good atmosphere.
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  There's a lot of kids there as well, so some kid friendly
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  stuff. So all.
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  Right. That's what's up, Reese, man,
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  You know, I'll let you tell it, man.
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  So, you know, it didn't go exactly how you guys wanted it
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  to go. It's, it's, it's unfortunate,
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  you know, is, is in a situation like that.
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  I mean, you know, does the rider feel it a little bit more than
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  the team? I mean, we both feel it.
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  The rider feels it, he really feels it.
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  I mean, he's down, you know, so I mean, but you know, we're
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  still a lot of high spirits and you know, at this time,
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  definitely before I even forget, I definitely want to give a big
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  Congrats to Yamaha for taking the manufacture title for 2025.
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  A lot of people don't know that. A big shout out to Bobby.
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  You know, Bobby wrote his behind off this year and you know, like
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  I said, it was an overall successful year for Bobby.
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  A lot of people had counted us out.
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  They didn't think we would be there, but we were actually
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  there and we were actually one hand on the trophy.
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  So that's right there shows that we're still here, we're still
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  competitive and definitely give a big shout out to Richard and
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  the whole my whole team, the attack team.
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  So what's what happened when people don't see, and I mean
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  people that were there to kind of see that was a standing
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  around the the pit, but to actually get Bobby's bike back
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  up and running after race too, to pretty much give him a whole
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  brand new bike. I mean within that amount of
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  time and that was short of amazing.
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  That team is top notch. And you know, I can't, I love
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  them guys and I wouldn't ask for a better team or a different
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  team without them. So definitely give a big thanks
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  and a big, you know, salute to those guys.
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  But you know, overall, I think Bobby feels it.
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  You know, we all feel it. I felt that coming home today,
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  you know, in the in the airport. So, but like I said, we're all
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  have high hopes and we're getting ready for air for a
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  world super bike. You're here for Porto Mall for
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  Estero. Yeah, we'll talk.
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  We'll talk about that a little bit because, yeah, I mean, you
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  know, it, it's, you know, the hardest thing I think, you know,
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  after, you know, losing a championship, you know, is, is
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  that that like directly after when you have to, when you just
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  think about it. But you know, as time passes
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  and, and like, like you mentioned, you think about the
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  whole season, you know, it was a success story overall.
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  You know, the results doesn't dictate, you know, the the work
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  put in and, and that you guys have done for the, for the whole
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  season and stuff like that. And to, you know, for a guy to
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  be on a bike for first year to do something, you know, that
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  impressive. It, it, it, it's, you know, it's
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  the likes of what you know, Mark did last year, going to Grassini
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  and, and being able to, you know, you know, do what he did.
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  So no, definitely. So.
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  Do you got? You know, now you're going to
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  Puerto Mayo, so let's talk a. Little bit.
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  Is is? Go ahead.
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  Yeah, well, I was used to continuing the concession.
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  I was going to talk about Bobby, but I'll I'll wait.
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  No, Well, go ahead, 'cause we're going to talk about Puerto Mayo
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  and see if the is, is it the whole crew that's going?
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  Which is it? You know Bobby and and and the
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  the crew chief. I mean, the whole crew's going.
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  I mean, of course only certain members of the crew are going to
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  work because they don't need all the crew to work for just one
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  rider. But I mean, we'll all be there
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  in support and have a good time as a whole.
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  Family. That's what's up.
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  That's what's up. Go ahead, TJ.
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  Well, yeah, and I was going to chime in on on the attack
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  Yamaha. So definitely want to give
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  Congrats to the Yamaha team because you know, they
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  definitely still stepping stone. They put in the work and like
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  you said, we got the title. It was good meeting Reese there
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  as well in person. And Lewis and, you know, just
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  seeing the environment. They're very professional, very
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  respectful. But I just know that just what
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  Bobby did this year is just amazing.
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  And he's so humble and I, I just, I just know just back in
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  his head is just like he has a lot on the table and he can't
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  fuck up, you know, And it was just probably just so much
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  stress on him and just to try to hold the points because like, he
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  did win race one, got that out the way.
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  But race 2, like I was sitting, I don't remember the turn
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  number, but little chicane. I think it's like turn six or
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  seven. There was a point where Josh
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  Hannan would always like kind of let off the gas a little bit to
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  to like, you know, gain momentum or push and and you know, Bobby
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  tire rounds his at one point and then later down the race is the
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  same, same corners where Bobby crashed out right, right.
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  And I think. Heron uses a lower gear than the
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  Yamaha. Yeah, in that, in that turn is
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  what I heard. But yeah, and then that's when
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  Bobby made his little gestures and stuff like that, and then it
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  was wide open from there. So that Race 3 was pretty big,
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  and it was just unfortunate just to see you probably, you know,
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  lose it after having to leave. Yeah, thank you.
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  It was back and forth between the three.
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  But just still want to say Congrats to the Yamaha team
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  because that was a hard fight and it's just disappointing.
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  I know it's a sour taste going home.
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  And I agree with that. Congrats for real because you
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  guys did win even though you didn't get the the final piece
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  because it's been an amazing year and I don't know none of
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  your guys going to lose sight of that because you guys have been
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  there before so and you'll be there again so and I.
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  Think we appreciate it. I think Bobby is going to learn
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  a lot from this and be even stronger next year.
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  So I'm, I'm, I'm looking forward to next season for sure.
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  Lewis man, you know you, you've been in and out.
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  You know, here's your chance to to talk about Motor America and
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  your thoughts of the overall weekend.
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  You know the likes and dislike. You know all the all.
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  The. And you know, we might change
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  your last name now. No, no, no.
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  Yeah. Let me start by saying thanks to
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  to everybody that came up and and said hi, that kind of knew
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  us from the pod. I was surprised, man.
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  I was surprised by how many people just randomly would shout
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  out like, hey, are you Luis Ortega or hey, are you the
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  numbers guy? And it was, it kind of caught me
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  off guard because it's the first time that I've had somebody, you
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  know, people noticed me and from the pod and, and, and all the
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  feedback was great. All the feedback was super
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  positive. You know, they like what we talk
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  about, they like what we expand and they like when we talk about
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  racing, but they, they like when we expand a little bit and talk
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  about other things outside of racing, but motorcycle related.
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  So it was good. It was just good get to get
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  feedback first hand. I mean, I get a lot of emails
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  and I get a lot of messages on Instagram, but when you see the
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  fans in person and you get to talk to them and they, you know,
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  they, you kind of, they know that, Hey, you know what the,
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  they do know what they're talking about.
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  Like we're, we're all invested in what we're saying.
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  We're all invested in the sport. We, we enjoy it, we like it, the
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  good, the bad, the ugly. We're there for it.
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  So I want to say thank you to that.
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  As far as the weekend, a great weekend as far as the turn out,
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  the event itself, you know, Reese can tell you there were
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  more people there on Saturday than I've ever were seen there
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  on Saturday. I think there were more people
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  there on Sunday that I've ever seen on a Sunday.
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  I mean, they were parking cars almost all the way to the
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  Lightning track, which is for those of you that know the track
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  layout, that's the other side of the track.
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  So people were walking from Lightning to Thunderbolt or if
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  you have to walk that. I mean, Reese, what do you
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  think, man? That's like a mile and a half
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  walk from one track. That's a cool walk man.
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  You get your steps in that day. So for the, for the event, for
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  everything, it was great. As far as the, the, the, the
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  happenings within the weekend, I was, I was super happy for the
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  results on Friday. I wasn't surprised.
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  The only thing that surprised me was, you know, heroin obviously
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  didn't have pace and it showed, you know, he showed some, some
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  pace in the very first practice. But after that, when everybody's
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  lap times really started to drop, you know, the reason why
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  Aaron started in 7th place, it wasn't set up and it wasn't
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  anything else. Like he didn't have pace.
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  He had great launches and he's got a he's got a bike that has a
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  lot of grunt and everybody knows that and he knows how to take
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  advantages of the weaknesses and the strength of that bike.
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  So he was able to get past, you know, the guys in 6th, 5th and
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  4th and quickly get himself into the top three or four in every
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  race. But towards the end of every
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  race, you saw that his pace was dropping.
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  And This is why he had the tactic he had.
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  And, you know, some people might not like it, some people might
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  like it. Some people say it's race craft,
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  he's a crafty racer, this and that.
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  He intentionally was slowing the traffic down for multiple
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  reasons. One, because he knew at the end
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  of the race he didn't have the pace to go with somebody if they
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  got in front of him and really started to put some time down.
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  We saw that in Race 1. Bobby was able to get out to a
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  four second lead. Two of those seconds were a
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  fucking track marker in the back that doesn't know how to read a
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  Blue Flag, which should get black flagged and not allowed on
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  a Moto America track ever again. Because this is a championship
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  racing weekend and you got some guy that's lapping around 8 1/2,
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  nine seconds slower than the guys at the front, and he
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  doesn't know how 2 flag works. Bro, that's a Black Flag.
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  Get off my track. Never come here again.
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  Disqualification. In the second race, Josh did
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  what Josh needed to do again. Like it or dislike it, he jumped
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  in front and he tried to intentionally slow the pace down
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  because he understands his only opportunity to win is if Bobby
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  and Cameron have an incident. You know he was too far out of
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  the points of that side. So the only thing you could do
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  is try to slow the pace down and hope that either those guys
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  start battling with each other or somebody else that has
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  nothing to do with it starts battling with them.
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  They start to try to do something risky to get around
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  them and possibly crash to give him again that glimmer of hope
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  that he might still be able to win.
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  Hate it or love it, it's a race tactic.
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  It is what it is. And you know, several of the
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  people had said that, you know, he takes a different mind.
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  He tends to slow mid corner because he uses a different
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  gear, because he's trying to use the grunt to get out of the
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  corners. But you know, if you're
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  intentionally slowing the pace, you're also putting people at
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  risk because if five other guys are coming through the same
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  corner at a specific pace and they're expecting you to be on
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  the gas as a professional at the apex and you're still neutral
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  throttle or lower the neutral throttle at the apex and after
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  the apex because you're trying to fuck up everybody else's
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  corner speed because you don't have corner speed.
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  Again, it's a tactic, but it's a shitty tactic.
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  So we should. We should.
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  Kick a Noni out of world super bike.
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  Well, I mean, again, this is a tactic.
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  I'm not saying that it's illegal or anything else.
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  It's a shitty tactic, but it's a tactic and it's the only tactic
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  that he had because again, he needed both Cameron and Bobby to
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  crash for him to have any chance to retain his title because he
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  was out of it. You know, he was well, well out
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  of it. And unfortunately, Bobby race
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  the way Bobby races all year. Bobby, Bobby goes out there and
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  he's, I hate to say it, man, he really is a win it or been a guy
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  like I can't slow down. I can't just settle for second
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  or third even when he should settle for second or third
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  because that's not the way he is.
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  You know, anybody that knows Bobby like I got to do my pace.
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  I got to do my corners, I got to do my apexes the way that I do
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  them. This is the way that this is
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  what got him here. This type of riding got him to
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  this point this time of the year and this ain't the time to try
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  to change that. The way he rides, man.
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  And everybody online, all the oh by the way, all the previous
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  super bike champions online, the thousands.
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  I didn't realize there were so many goddamn super bike
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  champions in the US. Fuck the the thousands of super
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  bike champions that are going online and giving Bobby advice
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  on how to ride. I'm sure Bobby is going to
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  listen to it because I mean, with all the titles you fuckers
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  have and all the Super bikes that you guys have ridden at the
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  top level, I mean, shit, I mean, Bobby only owns the the track
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  record at two or three tracks. I guess these other thousand
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  guys on the track records everywhere else because it's
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  like, holy shit, man. And you know, again, bro, social
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  media is toxic. We know that.
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  We know how people get manipulated very easily.
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  You know, people are putting up, oh, here's Joshua's track data.
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  It'll easily show you what he was doing.
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  And 90% of these guys can't even read a menu at fucking
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  Cheesecake factor. You think they know what track
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  data looks like? I could, I could put a EKG up
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  there and be like, this is track data.
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  They have no clue. So is is I.
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  Mean. That, that type of criticism
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  that because I, I, I see it as well.
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  And I, you know, you know, you want to expand on that a little
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  bit because, you know, as a writer, it's hard not to see
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  that stuff on, on your feed and, and all those comments and stuff
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  like that. And, and you're absolutely right
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  on just the facts being the numbers guy, right?
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  But you know, there's still people that want to come out
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  and, and give advice and, and, and say all these things and,
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  you know, you know, I guess not. I'll, I'll, I'll push this to
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  Reese. I mean, you know, how, how do
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  you other writers have coped with that in the past?
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  And I mean, you guys only been with Bobby for one year and,
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  and, and this is still all brand new.
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  You know, how do you guys, you just, you know, become a title
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  family? How do you guys deal with that?
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  I mean, honestly, we just kind of ignore it.
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  You just kind of you kind of brush to the side.
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  I mean, because everyone's going to have their opinions,
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  everyone's going to have their face.
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  I mean, I've had people hit me and say, Oh, BMWs won this top
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  this, this that. I'm like where, you know, I've
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  had people tell me certain about factory teams over in world
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  super bike. I've had people tell me, you
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  know, I've seen people say Bobby choked or this and that.
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  I'm like, really like, unless it's it, you want to speak on it
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  and you want to talk about it and it's like, there's no point
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  because as you know, you're, you know, my mom always told me when
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  growing up, ignorance is bliss. And you know, it's like people
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  don't, they're going to say what they want to say.
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  And it's, it's no disrespect to them.
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  That's just what they want to say.
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  But it's like, like Lewis just said, the social media nowadays
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  is all toxic. It's just like, you know,
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  fortunately, I, I, I go back as to, you know, when I first
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  started writing, it's like the Suzuki, you know, of course,
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  sorry, Lewis, but it's that one person, that one person said
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  that Suzuki's best. And guess what?
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  It just followed down the line and Suzuki's the greatest thing
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  walking on God's given earth. And now everybody's like, oh,
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  Suzuki did Suzuki died. And I'm like, OK, cool.
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  But it's, they're missing now. It's a Ducati thing and they're,
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  it's just, it's one person will make like a, a trend and it's
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  just, it goes from there and it's just a snowball effect.
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  And you know, people would sit there and say, oh, there, there
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  weren't that many fans at MO of America or MO of America's
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  falling. I'm like, like Lewis said, there
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  was, we looked, they, I talked to one of the MO of America reps
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  and the, and the jersey reps and it was record-breaking numbers
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  for New Jersey's round. They had more fans in jersey
• 20:00
  than they've ever had on their weekend.
• 20:02
  It's all because it was very. Cool.
• 20:06
  It it, it's because they knew we were coming, bro.
• 20:12
  They they heard on the pods, we down the pod, we were going to
• 20:15
  be in there like yo, let's buy some tickets.
• 20:20
  So I mean it's it's that. All joking aside, this is what
• 20:23
  we want, you know, as, as you know, people who, who want to be
• 20:26
  part of the, the, the, the racing community, the business
• 20:30
  side of things. That's what we want as a fan
• 20:32
  side. That's what we want as well, you
• 20:35
  know, to to hear that, you know, jersey had record-breaking
• 20:38
  numbers and hopefully that carries over into Daytona in the
• 20:42
  in the next next March and so forth until next year.
• 20:45
  That's kind of what we want. I mean, they obviously we get
• 20:47
  more people talking with the, with the AI edited, you know,
• 20:51
  data and stuff like that. But with more breach, I think
• 20:56
  we're going to we're going to get that negativity right.
• 20:59
  Of course you're going to always get the negativity, even like
• 21:01
  Lewis said. I mean, people can't read data.
• 21:03
  I mean, hell, to be honest, I've been there now 11 years and I'm
• 21:06
  looking at the data like this shit look like spaghetti, you
• 21:09
  know, like squiggly lines. And you're like, I'm trying to
• 21:13
  get them to like, all right, so that's the tired temp.
• 21:15
  OK, So I'm like, I got to like be taught.
• 21:18
  And I'm like, this is this is crazy.
• 21:21
  So for someone to sit there and say, oh, yeah, I can see it.
• 21:24
  I can see it. I'm like, no, you can't.
• 21:29
  And again, anybody get the problem is even 90% of the facts
• 21:36
  are fake. I could take a screenshot from
• 21:38
  data from another guy and put it on there and be like, hey, it's
• 21:41
  data. Like there's there's no way to
• 21:44
  equate it. The only people that know what
• 21:45
  was going on on that track were the guys on the track.
• 21:50
  And the feedback from the guys on the track was that that was
• 21:54
  the feedback that they felt that the pace was being slowed
• 21:56
  intentionally. And you can see on the video, in
• 22:00
  race one, halfway through the race, there was 1 bike that was
• 22:04
  sliding like more than any other bike, and it was sliding at the
• 22:07
  same three or four or five points.
• 22:09
  And that was a Ducati. And in the second race, they
• 22:11
  slowed the pace down significantly to try to save
• 22:14
  tire because they couldn't seem to manage a tire.
• 22:17
  And then in the last race, what happened when Bobby and Cameron
• 22:20
  got away in front, a certain Ducati started dropping like a
• 22:23
  fucking stone because they didn't have the pace.
• 22:25
  So much so they got passed by Suzuki.
• 22:29
  Yeah, baby Suzuki. No boy, baby coming back.
• 22:34
  Right, listen, I, I could, I could say this, this is what I
• 22:39
  can say and I'll, I'll, it will contest to what Lewis just said.
• 22:44
  When the certain person got out front, the pace was at the low
• 22:49
  and mid. It was at the mid 20s.
• 22:51
  It was a 20.3, a 20.5. That was the pace.
• 22:57
  When the other got out front we were at a pace was at a 21.7 to
• 23:04
  a 21 point, I mean a 22.3. Wow.
• 23:10
  So yeah, so, so now you move it, you guys are going over to.
• 23:18
  No, and just one last thing. And then you know, Jersey is a
• 23:21
  for anybody who's written it, it's a very hard track to pass.
• 23:24
  There's only a couple of clean passing places.
• 23:27
  And if you can get the grunt of your bike to block somebody into
• 23:30
  turn one, it becomes a single lane track until you get to turn
• 23:34
  5. And there's you could do the
• 23:36
  Comic Con, the inside and try to make the turn of turn 5.
• 23:40
  Then there's no other passing realistically unless there's a
• 23:43
  mistake until turn 1 again. So you know, you can block
• 23:47
  people at turn 5 and not motor people to turn 1 and then park
• 23:50
  it in turn one. You're not going to get really
• 23:52
  get passed against five. So you kill somebody's drive
• 23:55
  coming out of turn 3. They can't really get a drive to
• 23:58
  pass you at turn 5. And then you got the growth
• 24:01
  again at turn 1. So now it becomes this, you
• 24:03
  know, this kind of like slinky effect where every time you
• 24:07
  think you got room, the room has got and every time it starts to
• 24:10
  stretch, it collapses again. And This is why you saw in the
• 24:14
  third race and in the first race, when other riders got in
• 24:17
  front of that rider, they were able to set their pace and that
• 24:20
  rider couldn't. We saw it on one and we saw the
• 24:24
  same exact thing. Phase three.
• 24:26
  His tactic is tactic. I understand why it is.
• 24:29
  And to be honest with you, in my position, in the same position,
• 24:32
  I'll be doing the same shit because I'm trying to win at all
• 24:36
  costs. Short of causing somebody to
• 24:39
  crash, I'm trying to win at all costs.
• 24:42
  So like get a hate it, you know, it is a tactic and you got to
• 24:46
  accept it. But you know, at least now we
• 24:52
  know that, you know, Jersey got the benefit and Moto America got
• 24:55
  the benefit from 1. The Baggers were there and two,
• 24:58
  the most important three races of the season happened in the
• 25:02
  last two days of the season. And I think that's why so many
• 25:05
  people showed up to to jerseys. There were stakes, there was a
• 25:09
  reason to go there. It wasn't raining for once,
• 25:11
  Thank God, you know, So all these factors put together, This
• 25:14
  is why we had a great turn out. We had a great event.
• 25:16
  And even though it didn't turn out the way everybody maybe had
• 25:19
  hoped for, at the end of the day, we still got a great
• 25:22
  champion because Cameron Bovier, his story is, is important too,
• 25:25
  man. Kevin Beaubie has had a rough,
• 25:28
  rough time over the last 5-6 years, man.
• 25:31
  He went to Moto 2 and he struggled.
• 25:33
  He went, you know, he stayed there probably way longer than
• 25:36
  he should have, thinking that the team would be able to come
• 25:38
  around and give him a bike that he can compete with.
• 25:41
  And he comes back and he gets on the BMW and the bike is not
• 25:44
  there. You know, everybody thinks, oh,
• 25:45
  the BMW is great. There's one guy that's
• 25:48
  consistently fast on the BMW and he's an alien dude.
• 25:53
  How many other people have raced the BMW and struggled?
• 25:57
  Scott Ready couldn't make it work.
• 26:01
  You know, all these other guys couldn't make it work.
• 26:03
  There's one dude that's been able to win on the BMW.
• 26:08
  Besides top. Rack besides top rack.
• 26:10
  Yeah. And now Cameron, even, he'll
• 26:13
  tell you the bike's not very easy to ride, but he finds a way
• 26:16
  to ride it. And I'm super happy for that
• 26:18
  guy, man. You know, he's had concussions.
• 26:21
  He's had injuries like he almost concussed himself out of the.
• 26:24
  Sport. So as much as I rooted for
• 26:27
  Bobby, yeah, crack dude, this guy's been through it.
• 26:31
  So as much as I rooted for Bobby, once, you know, we saw
• 26:34
  that Bobby wasn't going to get it, and I saw who was in second
• 26:37
  place, I was like, you know what, man?
• 26:39
  If this, if it's destined for him to get this title, then let
• 26:43
  him get this title. Because this guy's been through
• 26:45
  the ringer, man, and he's a super deserving guy.
• 26:50
  Yeah, I agree. You know, so and next year we're
• 26:52
  going to have two BMWs in in, in World Super, I mean Motor
• 26:56
  America. I think it's going to be 3.
• 26:59
  Oh wow, here it's going to be 3 BMWs, maybe 4.
• 27:04
  Depends because Tyler's racing is is is a weird anomaly of a
• 27:08
  company. Every year they're going out of
• 27:11
  business. Right.
• 27:13
  Every year that every seriously at Greece, you know every well
• 27:18
  every year the the the the the main sponsor behind Tyler's
• 27:22
  racing has to decide whether or not they're going to go racing
• 27:25
  again next year. You know, like Cameron Beauvier
• 27:28
  next year might not even be on a BMW because that team might not
• 27:31
  be there if the team finds fun I.
• 27:37
  Think we? I think we might.
• 27:39
  Have lost, but orange cat is definitely going to go racing
• 27:42
  minimum. They're going to have two BMWs,
• 27:43
  but they might even bring a third BMW because they're trying
• 27:47
  to bring get a a really, really strong team together.
• 27:50
  From what I talked to them a little bit this weekend.
• 27:52
  I mean they're planning on having four riders.
• 27:55
  I don't know where these four riders are going, dude, but
• 27:58
  they're having a planning on having four riders.
• 28:01
  We're going to have another all one, you know, maybe we'll have
• 28:05
  something else. Yeah, I was about to say show
• 28:09
  right. Jack, Jack, they're going racing
• 28:12
  super bikes. Yeah, he he's another one that
• 28:14
  won the championship. I mean, I don't remember what
• 28:17
  the points were hit with with Matthew and PJ, but I mean,
• 28:21
  getting a flat tire in race one seems like that he put them out
• 28:25
  of the points. I mean, you know, that's also
• 28:27
  another strange way to to elude the championship.
• 28:31
  Brand new Dunlop straight from Japan baby.
• 28:34
  What are your thoughts on that, TJ?
• 28:36
  You, you were there to see it, man.
• 28:37
  What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, man, that that race would
• 28:41
  happen to be red flags. So it was kind of interesting.
• 28:44
  I don't know if there's someone else crashed or caused it or if
• 28:47
  it's because PJ had a flat tire, but it was just a strange
• 28:51
  situation. But yeah, that's weird that
• 28:54
  you're just the only one to get a flat.
• 28:57
  There was. There was a blowout in practice.
• 29:01
  Oh my it. Was two blowouts.
• 29:02
  Yeah, 2 blowouts. For for who?
• 29:05
  Like. Super Sport.
• 29:07
  Yeah, what's? Going on over there.
• 29:11
  So they were using the jet, the new Japanese made Dunlop tires
• 29:17
  and and they had to pull some and Reese, you could probably
• 29:21
  talk about this a little more than me, but from what I
• 29:22
  understand, they looked at a specific lot number and had to
• 29:26
  pull all of them off the trailer to not give them to anybody else
• 29:30
  because those tires were failing they.
• 29:32
  They were failing because they went to a lower pressure.
• 29:36
  That's what they said. They went to an 18 lbs or
• 29:39
  something like that and that's what the issue were.
• 29:42
  So they didn't, they shortened the race to allow the tires to
• 29:48
  to last. That was so.
• 29:55
  Is Blake Davis one of the forefront for the championship
• 29:58
  next year now that you know, P JS moving up?
• 30:02
  Is Cam moving up as well? Or is it just Schultz and and PJ
• 30:06
  moving up to super bike next year?
• 30:08
  Just just Schultz and PJ. So.
• 30:14
  Go ahead. But I I don't know.
• 30:16
  What Cam's doing, because you know, there's there's some
• 30:19
  rumors that there's some some might be some additional changes
• 30:24
  in the paddock. You know, I don't I don't like
• 30:27
  to speak out of turn, but you know, there's a company that's
• 30:30
  not 100% sure if they're going to be able to be back in the
• 30:33
  paddock or they're looking for a new funding now.
• 30:36
  I think they'll be able to find it, but more than likely Cam P
• 30:39
  is going to end up in super sport and and it'll be it'll be
• 30:45
  pretty much Blake Davis, Campy Scott and and Demario.
• 30:50
  Like I'm going to give Demario a a a big boost, bro.
• 30:55
  That kids, that kids the truth. And and Ray Hall did a great
• 30:59
  job. That's he's an amazing pick up
• 31:01
  man. You guys have no idea the talent
• 31:04
  because most people only know him from the last couple of
• 31:06
  seasons here. But but I have his, you know, I
• 31:09
  have his resume from when he was raising in Italy, man.
• 31:12
  And if it wasn't for the fact that, you know, his father got a
• 31:15
  job here in the US, that kid would probably be a Moto 3 right
• 31:18
  now. Wow.
• 31:20
  All right, that that's. Going to be a cool lineup for
• 31:22
  next year for the front runner for sure.
• 31:24
  I'm pretty sure there might be a couple of others in there, but
• 31:27
  let's move over to Moto GP and then we'll bounce around to
• 31:31
  World Super Bowl. All right.
• 31:33
  Sorry, Jesse. Sorry, just before we move over,
• 31:36
  I definitely want to congratulate our home to New
• 31:40
  England or Nathan Betancourt for actually getting a podium on
• 31:45
  Sunday on 3rd place. So it was super exciting to see
• 31:51
  another person that I know or you know, be on the track with.
• 31:55
  So I want to congratulate the Betancourt family for getting on
• 31:58
  the podium and allowed us to get the tickets as well.
• 32:01
  So it's cool to see that, no doubt.
• 32:04
  And Nathan? And Mike, you know, man, it's
• 32:05
  time to come on the show and tell the story.
• 32:07
  Let's make it happen. But that's, that was dope to see
• 32:09
  Nathan, Nathan, Nathan can get on the podium because like I,
• 32:13
  we, I, I remember him as a, as a, a little lad on a, on a kick
• 32:18
  scooter kicking around the paddock, you know, while dad was
• 32:20
  racing and, and you know, dad stopped racing.
• 32:23
  So he can put time into get Nathan to where he's at.
• 32:26
  And to see them, you know, I, I believe 2, two years in and to
• 32:29
  get on the podium, that's huge. And the kid I did like, he said
• 32:32
  he was just 12:00 earlier this year.
• 32:38
  So. I'll give you one more little
• 32:40
  inside scoop from the day that I was at today.
• 32:42
  So today I was at the Aprilia track day and NJ and P, they
• 32:45
  have the track day right after Motor America's event every year
• 32:48
  here. And a lot of a lot of the kids
• 32:51
  from the Twins Cup stayed to ride.
• 32:54
  And Alexandra Demario went out on an RSV4 stock bike with St.
• 33:01
  Pirelli tires. Running 120 eights bro.
• 33:06
  Wow. Stop bike that just.
• 33:11
  A demo bike. Don't break this.
• 33:15
  Let's bring it. Back in one piece.
• 33:17
  Well, I'll give you another. I'll give you another insight
• 33:20
  too to what Lewis said. I guess somebody was out there
• 33:23
  doing a track day with him and he was on AI.
• 33:28
  Think he was on a super bike and the Mario pulled away from him
• 33:32
  like he was standing still. So for all those guys out there
• 33:35
  talking all the Super bike and trying to give a genius, there's
• 33:38
  a kid out there ready to bust you behind on the Blake Blake.
• 33:44
  Blake Davis and I'm gonna tell you right now, Blake Davis and
• 33:48
  Alessandra Demario are really the young forerunners for being
• 33:53
  that next generation of top races.
• 33:55
  When they get to that point, when they get that maturity and
• 33:57
  they get big bikes, are they got?
• 34:00
  They're going to hurt a lot of feelings, man.
• 34:03
  Yeah, it's. It's a trend that's been coming.
• 34:05
  I mean, you know, for me, just the last 10 years, seeing these
• 34:07
  young kids come up and you see the progressions of of the the
• 34:11
  younger ones where they're at now in the sport and stuff like
• 34:14
  that. So, you know, motorcycle racing
• 34:16
  in the US is is going in the right direction.
• 34:19
  So it's, you know, it's definitely exciting.
• 34:21
  And you know, hopefully more heads will be, you know, going
• 34:24
  to world super bike or even, you know, more in the in the Moto GP
• 34:28
  Moto two side of things as well. So that way, you know, you got
• 34:31
  more, you know, US riders, you know, filling up the the the
• 34:35
  international stage. Speaking of international stage,
• 34:38
  let's talk about Japan. Motegi, one of my favorite
• 34:42
  tracks. You know, Mark Marquez did his
• 34:45
  thing, won the championship. I don't know what the big that
• 34:48
  is the biggest news. It is the one of the biggest
• 34:50
  comebacks that we can talk about.
• 34:53
  Only thing come close is Grant. Grant Hill because Grant was
• 34:56
  hurt for many years. Kim Kardashian.
• 34:58
  Had a comeback? Come on man, this is not.
• 35:06
  I mean Cameron movie had a comeback.
• 35:09
  Listen, listen, listen, listen. Listen, Tiger.
• 35:11
  Woods. Kim always has a comeback.
• 35:14
  That's the problem in that one. Video in that one.
• 35:17
  Video shit. So we'll, we'll, we'll.
• 35:20
  We'll we'll leave it there, but you know, it's still one of the
• 35:22
  biggest comebacks out there for more cast because he had a lot
• 35:27
  of surgeries in four years and maybe some of the writers may
• 35:31
  have retired And you know, he he he took a gamble.
• 35:35
  You know, we've been kind of talking all year that it was his
• 35:37
  to lose. Did he did he live up to the
• 35:40
  hype? Is it is it did he win by too
• 35:43
  much and and and made it kind of boring?
• 35:46
  What are your thoughts, TJ? I mean, no, he actually made.
• 35:51
  It really exciting because when he first got out of Ducati last
• 35:55
  year, you know, everyone was just ready for him to start
• 35:59
  winning and he gave a little glimpse.
• 36:02
  But once he got that factory seat, I just we kind of already
• 36:05
  knew. We just had to prove it.
• 36:07
  But we didn't think it was going to be like this.
• 36:09
  Like, you know, I mean, I've been watching Mark for a little
• 36:13
  bit and really got into racing a few years ago, but like, like
• 36:18
  his comebacks for his injuries and to just smoke people the way
• 36:23
  he did so far and get the championship.
• 36:27
  And like he can actually just focus on action.
• 36:30
  Like he doesn't like have to do anything else.
• 36:34
  Like he got the title and and he still can probably act to, I
• 36:38
  don't know, he's still can get more get points and add to this,
• 36:41
  this running zone. So very impressive and still
• 36:45
  excited to see the races that we have left.
• 36:50
  There's still some cool tracks, and Kentucky is a cool track as
• 36:53
  well. So yeah, no doubt, Reece.
• 36:55
  What are your thoughts? You know, like Cam, you know,
• 37:01
  Mark did something pretty special, you know, you know, how
• 37:05
  does that rank for you as far as you know, you've been, you've
• 37:08
  been around a motorcycle racing for a while.
• 37:11
  You know, we all said he was all of us.
• 37:13
  I was probably still on the fence, probably still on the
• 37:15
  fence and denial myself. But what are your thoughts on
• 37:18
  what Mark did and, you know, getting his 7th GP title in this
• 37:23
  way? Because like I said, this is
• 37:25
  something like, you know, like Tyson come back and fight and
• 37:28
  Ali coming back after going to jail and, and, and all that.
• 37:32
  You know, there's a lot of writers that could have just
• 37:34
  said, hey, man, I got enough money, I can live off my Red
• 37:36
  Bull check. And, you know, and he decided to
• 37:39
  go get his arm broken again and, and, you know, it went to
• 37:42
  Minnesota to do it of all places.
• 37:44
  And, you know, and, and look where he's at now.
• 37:48
  I mean. Honestly, I said it.
• 37:50
  I said this last year and you know, I told a couple of friends
• 37:54
  of mine said if this man gets on a red bike, he he's pretty much
• 37:58
  going for a second and third. You're not going for first.
• 38:02
  The way he showed us pace the first year being on the
• 38:05
  satellite bike that just told me this, he gets on a factory bike
• 38:10
  with all the new equipment. The factory specs is, is you're
• 38:13
  pretty much going to race for 2nd and 3rd.
• 38:15
  But to see him come back after all the injuries, I mean, I was
• 38:17
  actually rooting for him. I've been a Rossi fan for a long
• 38:20
  time. But you know, they actually root
• 38:22
  for him. And to see him come back from
• 38:24
  those injuries and with actually thinking about calling it quits,
• 38:28
  I mean, it's something short of phenomenal.
• 38:30
  So, you know, it's actually congratulations to him and you
• 38:33
  know, it was something nice to see.
• 38:35
  I mean, from from start to finish.
• 38:37
  I mean, what from maybe like the sixth round after winning like
• 38:42
  this, this kind of one man show right now, you're pretty much
• 38:45
  just coming. We all come to say we're coming
• 38:47
  to the track to win, but at this point in time with somebody like
• 38:50
  that, you're just coming to see if I can finish second, right?
• 38:53
  Right. Lewis, what are your thoughts,
• 38:55
  man? You know, it's, there's, there's
• 38:59
  a lot of Marc Marquez ads out there.
• 39:03
  I mean, I have to, I have to give.
• 39:05
  I have to tip my hat to the man you know. 125.
• 39:12
  I mean, I saw him race when he was in the CEV.
• 39:17
  It's an amazing story from. Beginning to end everything, he
• 39:20
  has been the competitor he's been since the day he arrived on
• 39:23
  the circuit in 125. The rider that he's evolved
• 39:27
  into, the talent that he's evolved into.
• 39:30
  I mean, we're all fans, so we're going to look at it from a fan's
• 39:32
  perspective. I would say the true measure of
• 39:35
  a champion is how your contemporaries look at you and
• 39:38
  how your contemporaries speak about you.
• 39:41
  And it was really great one to see all the other riders when
• 39:46
  asked about the accomplishment, all of them said more or less
• 39:50
  the same thing in their own way. You know, this is an incredible
• 39:54
  thing. If you think about where he was
• 39:56
  just six years ago, if you think about everything he's been
• 39:58
  through, you know, most other riders would have given up.
• 40:01
  Most of the riders would have been retired.
• 40:04
  He you know, even in the in the documentary that they have for
• 40:08
  Mark Marquez going through his surgeries, even his own family
• 40:12
  were like, you got you got enough money.
• 40:14
  You know why you don't need to race?
• 40:16
  You have this, you have that. Like there's a video going now
• 40:19
  that directly from that documentary where Marquez sits
• 40:22
  down with his grandfather who is no longer with us.
• 40:26
  And he's he's asking his grandfather, you know, will you
• 40:29
  give me a blessing to do this? If I do this one surgery and
• 40:32
  they fix it, I can go race again.
• 40:35
  And his father's like his grandfather.
• 40:37
  I mean, is it pretty much tells him you you have more than
• 40:39
  enough money, you don't need to do this anymore.
• 40:42
  If you ask me, I'll say no, but it doesn't matter what I fucking
• 40:45
  say because you're still going to not do what you want to do.
• 40:47
  But if you ask me, I say no. And Marquez is like, no, well,
• 40:52
  I'll tell you what, I'll do this surgery and I'll give it one
• 40:54
  last shot and everything he's went through and and again, all
• 40:58
  the contemporaries, man, all the other riders have all said the
• 41:02
  same thing. This is an incredible thing.
• 41:03
  This is an unbelievable comeback.
• 41:05
  There's never been something like this before in Motorsports.
• 41:09
  Like, yeah, Rossi came back from a broken leg.
• 41:11
  A lot of people coming back from broken legs doing came back from
• 41:15
  a destroyed leg so bad that they sold his left leg to his right
• 41:18
  leg so that they can circulate fresh blood to try to heal the
• 41:21
  broken leg with the good leg. So we've seen riders come back
• 41:25
  from some crazy things, but this here, break your arm, it gets
• 41:30
  set incorrectly. So you volunteer to get your arm
• 41:33
  broken again to try to get it set correctly.
• 41:36
  You leave a team that's paying you millions and not just a
• 41:40
  couple 10s of millions of dollars to go to a satellite
• 41:43
  team because you're looking for that competitive advantage to
• 41:46
  get back to the top. Like this dude has done
• 41:49
  everything possible to grab that trophy again, man.
• 41:51
  And now I think between now and the end of the year, I think
• 41:54
  he's going to set a new Type A challenge for himself.
• 41:56
  I really think he's going to try to reach that 600 point plateau,
• 42:01
  put that point bar so high that it might never get reached, man,
• 42:05
  maybe that we'll never see somebody hit 600 points again.
• 42:07
  And it's out there, it's available to him.
• 42:09
  He could do it. Well, well, well.
• 42:11
  Let's wait a minute now, Rondell.
• 42:13
  He can do it again. You know we.
• 42:15
  Made his own record. We.
• 42:16
  We. Saw they figured out.
• 42:17
  Petco's bike all of a sudden, so I don't know, I don't know, but
• 42:22
  you know if it's a one off or but the rest of the season, I
• 42:25
  don't know if it's going to be that easy for Mark.
• 42:28
  What are your thoughts on on the fact that Petco did what he we
• 42:31
  did this weekend and everybody? The sun shines on a dog's ass
• 42:36
  every once in a while, man. So, you know, I I'm getting that
• 42:39
  out there, but anybody else gets out there, That sun shines on a
• 42:42
  dog's ass every once in a while. Once a day.
• 42:46
  So so so you you think? It's it's a one off and you
• 42:50
  know, it's still because for a guy to ride like that, is it all
• 42:54
  mental? One, it is mental.
• 42:58
  Yes, I mean, it does a lot of it's mental.
• 43:00
  If the bike is working properly then yeah, because a lot of
• 43:03
  times the bike will work properly and then they won't be
• 43:05
  able to just be the rider. So I mean, it could be a a
• 43:08
  little bit of both. We don't know.
• 43:10
  I mean, nobody knows on that side.
• 43:12
  It's like, I mean going on that side of like damn near Fort
• 43:15
  Knox, you know, they won't give up their secrets.
• 43:19
  So I mean, we we'll never know, but you know, yeah, it's one.
• 43:25
  It could be a one time, it may not know.
• 43:27
  I mean, we started, I watched the race and I started seeing
• 43:30
  the bike start smoking. You know, I'm like, I don't know
• 43:33
  what's going on, but I know I did see the man back there Mark
• 43:37
  reeling his behind end. So a couple more laps, we might
• 43:40
  not have this conversation right now.
• 43:43
  But Mark did struggle a little bit.
• 43:45
  And some of them laps the great. Ones always struggle.
• 43:49
  But they figure out. They find a way to turn up all
• 43:52
  right, TJ. One off what are you?
• 43:54
  What are your thoughts I mean? I feel like it's a one off
• 44:00
  because like I feel like heckled by this point.
• 44:05
  I would have performed a lot better.
• 44:07
  Kansas see that this race. I mean they want to throw in
• 44:12
  another manufacturer, but Juan mirror got a fourth in the
• 44:14
  Sprint and got a podium in the in the GP.
• 44:17
  So like that's a one off, you know, so like, I don't know,
• 44:22
  it's just a situation. I I really hope that Petco can
• 44:26
  find his way though and possibly finish top three, at least on
• 44:30
  top five for the rest of the year.
• 44:32
  So I actually say that he's back or figured something out
• 44:37
  actually and and feel improvement, but I don't know.
• 44:42
  I don't, I I just can't call it. I feel like Mark Mark is
• 44:47
  definitely going to try to set a record like he's already set the
• 44:50
  record, get the 600 plateau Mark and he's probably going to try
• 44:54
  to beat his own record next year.
• 44:56
  So it's going to be even tougher for our Petco, yeah.
• 44:59
  It's it's going to be. It'll be interesting to see
• 45:02
  numbers guy, you know, there's, you know, Mark wins the title,
• 45:07
  gets on the podium and there's a Honda on the podium as well.
• 45:11
  You know one. Do you think if Mark was on a
• 45:13
  Honda this year, would he would he win the championship?
• 45:16
  Because if he if if you say yes, that means he gave up a lot of
• 45:19
  dough to get this championship because the Honda is looking
• 45:23
  good. We haven't brought up, oh, hey,
• 45:26
  Martine, you know, with the broken collarbone.
• 45:29
  So I'm pretty sure you want to touch on not took out his own
• 45:32
  teammate who helped him get into Q2 like the last round.
• 45:36
  I mean, like, is there just some one rider has to have bad juju
• 45:40
  in Moto GP? Like what's going on, Lewis?
• 45:43
  I mean, if Miguel. Oliveira's in there.
• 45:45
  Somebody got to pick up the slack, you know?
• 45:47
  Somebody, somebody. Yeah, I'm fucking somebody up
• 45:51
  this weekend. I mean, it's, you know, I, I
• 45:56
  don't even know, like on the Jorge Martin thing, I don't even
• 46:00
  know what happened there. Like for me, if that's not a
• 46:04
  mechanical, if that's just Ryder error, that might be some of the
• 46:08
  dumbest shit that I've seen in 8-9 years.
• 46:11
  Yeah, from him. From him, From him.
• 46:14
  From even in Moto GP you always see some people crashing at turn
• 46:18
  1 but it's always like, you know, kind of a low side trying
• 46:21
  to get in the corner, making some contact.
• 46:23
  Not the bowling ball man. Like this dude had the 79 split.
• 46:30
  Did that in 2023. Yeah, I.
• 46:34
  Haven't seen in a couple years but it's like at a certain place
• 46:37
  bro. You are at the top level, man.
• 46:40
  You know you're. Ready from a shitty.
• 46:42
  Spot because you don't have great pace you ain't going to
• 46:44
  make up 9 spots in the first corner all you're going to do is
• 46:47
  put yourself and your teammate now now the entire factory team
• 46:52
  is out man, you know and. As far as?
• 46:55
  Honda you guys and I keep telling you man that home track
• 46:59
  half a second is a real thing and even though Johann Mia is
• 47:03
  Spanish, that's a Honda track. Believe me, the guys that signed
• 47:06
  his check were like, yo, my man, we at the Honda track, we really
• 47:10
  like to see a Honda, Honda podium here.
• 47:13
  And you know, we slowly start to sign the check.
• 47:18
  If you get it on the podium, you know, like so it's you know,
• 47:23
  these you get that extra incentive when you're there.
• 47:27
  You know, I mean, dude, you got your bosses there.
• 47:29
  Any of you could say it when your boss walks in, you look
• 47:32
  busy at work, right? He's in front of his boss.
• 47:36
  He got to get busy enough laps. On on, on at that track that
• 47:42
  they that data is pretty good to make that bike go faster.
• 47:45
  Yeah, they've got, they've got massive.
• 47:46
  Data if Mark was on that bike. This if Mike Mark had stayed
• 47:50
  with Honda. I don't even think Mark would
• 47:52
  still be in racing because if you look at the amount of crash,
• 47:55
  no seriously, look at the amount of crashes the Hondas have had
• 47:58
  this year between Mir, Marini, Zarko, I don't even know who the
• 48:02
  other guy is because yeah, dude, yeah, it is.
• 48:05
  And I'm surprised he survived this long, you know?
• 48:09
  Mark is going to crash. Just as much as those guys
• 48:12
  because he's only got one gear. So I'm, I'm still glad that
• 48:15
  Mark's not with that team because Mark's career would have
• 48:18
  got cut short and we would have missed out on this incredible
• 48:20
  run that he's having this incredible comeback, you know?
• 48:24
  So yeah, I'm Mark. Would probably.
• 48:28
  Not be at this race because he'd be retired with like 2 broken
• 48:31
  arms, broken collarbone, broken knees.
• 48:34
  Like just trying to survive the Honda.
• 48:38
  That'll be the next documentary. Yeah, dude.
• 48:42
  How to how to survive Honda directed the same people that
• 48:48
  directed how to survive R Kelly. Oh shit, all done.
• 48:58
  And then? As far as the Peckles thing, I
• 49:01
  don't think it's a one off because during the entire season
• 49:03
  Peckles been in that top 345. It's not like he's, you know, I
• 49:08
  bust his balls, you know that when he's I'm not here for to
• 49:11
  race for 4th or 5th even though he has been.
• 49:13
  But they should stay in the top five.
• 49:15
  So it's not like 21st. I mean, he's had a couple of.
• 49:18
  Struggles here and there, but keen eyes.
• 49:22
  Very keen eyes. Notice some significant
• 49:26
  differences between his bike and Mike Marks bike at this track,
• 49:31
  Yeah. So they are they made.
• 49:34
  Some changes to the bike. I don't know if they took, you
• 49:36
  know, the rumor is they took last year's.
• 49:39
  Bike and applied them to. This year's bike and made some
• 49:41
  other changes in hopes of helping Peko get his confidence
• 49:44
  back, get his mojo back. Is that going to help through
• 49:47
  the rest of the season? I mean, maybe, you know, maybe
• 49:50
  at this point Mark's like, dude, I'll just finished second for
• 49:52
  the rest of the year. I still, I got all my fat checks
• 49:56
  If I finished second or third for the rest of the year, I'm
• 49:58
  still going to make, you know, all my money.
• 50:01
  I'm still going to break the record for the highest points
• 50:03
  total. I'm still going to do all this
• 50:04
  other stuff. I let I let some other guys win.
• 50:06
  All right, OK, I feel bad for the other guy.
• 50:08
  Let him get some checks. Look.
• 50:10
  Look at my brand new Lambo. I got this.
• 50:12
  You know they gave me a Lambo. Yep, let me.
• 50:15
  Throw out Alex. Marquez to TJ and and Reese man,
• 50:18
  cuz he, he, you know, he looked like he showed a little bit of
• 50:21
  nerves, which I, I you wouldn't think so you think that would
• 50:25
  have maybe started sooner, but I expect a little bit better
• 50:28
  racing out of him. But is you think like overall,
• 50:30
  is that a team thing? Because also Aldegear struggled
• 50:32
  as well. What are your thoughts TJ on on
• 50:36
  how Alex did and also you think he'll he'll keep his 2nd place
• 50:41
  to the end of the season? Yeah, I definitely think he'll
• 50:46
  keep it second place, but I think I think it was the part of
• 50:50
  your team issue. I mean, Alligator has definitely
• 50:53
  been showing more pace as the season was progressing.
• 50:58
  Lately. He's kind of been struggling a
• 50:59
  little bit, but same with Alex, he's been struggling trying to
• 51:05
  stay up front. Couple crashes here and there.
• 51:08
  But I think it this time it was probably more of like a team
• 51:11
  effort for as far as set up and you know, it's just I think Alex
• 51:16
  has one gear as well trying to keep up.
• 51:20
  With Mark and. His pace trying to improve, but
• 51:24
  you know. I think.
• 51:25
  I think. Going forward, we probably
• 51:28
  haven't got the end of the season to keep that second
• 51:30
  place. Right, right.
• 51:33
  What are your? Thoughts Ruiz you know the team
• 51:36
  little bit they still recovering from his injury with thoughts on
• 51:40
  Alex. I mean, it could be a little bit
• 51:42
  of. Both it could be a writer, it
• 51:44
  could be a team. You know, Lewis knows this from
• 51:48
  being around the the industry so long.
• 51:50
  A lot of writers think that they're writers, they're
• 51:53
  champions and they also think that they're engineers, you
• 51:57
  know, so it could be market, you know, Alex telling them, I need
• 52:00
  this, I need this. And they're like, you don't need
• 52:02
  this, you you need this. And he's like, no, I need this.
• 52:05
  So it could be a little bit of both, you know, where a rider
• 52:10
  thinks he knows, but he really don't know.
• 52:14
  But it could be the injury that's plaguing him, you know,
• 52:17
  still, you know, sometimes these guys want to come back sooner
• 52:20
  than what's expected. You know, they want to come back
• 52:23
  and, and race and, and, and win. It could be a team that they
• 52:28
  just kind of lost their way. So it could be numerous of
• 52:32
  things that I've been booked. Honestly, looking at the point
• 52:34
  spread and looking at everything, I believe you still
• 52:36
  holds. It'll hold 2nd place.
• 52:38
  You know, especially just keep the bike upright.
• 52:39
  So you're still gaining points. You know, you long as you see it
• 52:41
  in the points battle. So you're still gaining points,
• 52:44
  you're still gaining data and figuring it out.
• 52:48
  But eventually I think they'll figure out their way back.
• 52:50
  You know, the best thing I tell them the best thing see them
• 52:53
  doing is pretty much going back to what they had.
• 52:56
  You know, because I'm pretty sure they got the data on what
• 52:58
  they did have and just go back to that, start from that setup
• 53:02
  and and go from there. All right, that's what's up.
• 53:07
  I mean, before we jump into world super bike, you know, do
• 53:11
  we want to we really, really talk about KTM as much?
• 53:14
  I mean Yamaha, Quatraro, I mean this man, listen, man, he's a
• 53:19
  foreigner, but if he was trying to get into America, he'll
• 53:21
  figure out a way. Well, you know it Like the not
• 53:25
  the. Yeah, they're kind of.
• 53:27
  Struggling a little bit over. There KTM and and in Yamaha and
• 53:31
  and and. Any thoughts TJ?
• 53:35
  Anything you want to. Point out I.
• 53:37
  Mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, I would say just.
• 53:44
  Just the set up. Maybe it's just that.
• 53:46
  They have been sugar lately. Fabio's like the only one that's
• 53:51
  holding Yamaha down South. They've been struggling the
• 53:55
  whole yeah my. It's just he's been pulling out
• 53:58
  miracles. Not miracles, but he's been
• 54:00
  putting in a lot of work after it.
• 54:02
  Oh, miracles. It was just.
• 54:03
  More of a metaphor to us, but like he's been making them,
• 54:07
  keeping them relevant basically. And they're still struggling
• 54:12
  even, you know, they did load tests, Paytmi mean like after
• 54:18
  two rounds ago when they were doing really well and then
• 54:23
  losing, losing change the the next week after.
• 54:27
  So yeah, they're still still trying to find their way.
• 54:30
  So I think they're in a good spot.
• 54:33
  I throw KTM over Yamaha, but I think Yamaha still has a lot of
• 54:36
  work to do. Right, anything that you want to
• 54:41
  add, Reese, I mean, you know, I, I we did say miracle, but like
• 54:46
  TJ alluded to more they you know it, it should be hope, right,
• 54:50
  because quarter hour was saying, look, this is what I can do with
• 54:52
  what I have. So give me something that can
• 54:55
  that I can really be more consistent, you know a.
• 54:58
  Great man once told me. Once you lose hope, you gain
• 55:00
  faith, but at this point in time, I ain't got no damn faith
• 55:06
  shit. That's gone.
• 55:10
  Fuck, I mean, what what DJ said. I mean it's kind of like being
• 55:16
  modest, but I mean he's pulling out.
• 55:20
  That's that's Tudini man, pulling out a miracle out of
• 55:22
  that sometimes to keep that Yama out there to me, you know.
• 55:28
  So I mean, hopefully they figured this out and figured
• 55:32
  that V4 out that they they got, you know, 'cause you know, they
• 55:35
  said it was. I mean, of course it's a new
• 55:38
  prototype is new. So they got to figure everything
• 55:40
  out and get it running. They still got bugs and
• 55:43
  scenarios that work out, you know, so I hope they do figure
• 55:46
  out figure that out. You know, KTMI don't know what
• 55:50
  the fuck going on over there. I think they just, they just
• 55:52
  broke, you know, something, something going on.
• 55:59
  Maybe they broke the bikes are broke.
• 56:01
  I don't know, man. It's just like Jesus Christ,
• 56:04
  man, give, give, give some faith in this.
• 56:06
  It's it's long gone, but. I don't know.
• 56:10
  I mean, hopefully. They can figure it out.
• 56:12
  I mean, at some point in time they look great and sometimes
• 56:14
  they look spotty and sometimes they're just like non existence.
• 56:18
  I mean, they'll crash out. Bassini's gone, you know this,
• 56:21
  that I mean, I I just don't know what's going on over there.
• 56:24
  It's either the setup is wrong, tires is wrong for them,
• 56:27
  suspension, it's just chassis. I don't know, it's something.
• 56:33
  Yeah, it's, it's, it's tough. And they got a whole bunch of
• 56:36
  new money. I mean, I, I don't know, I think
• 56:38
  they may have just done enough to kind of say we're not going
• 56:41
  to be worried the first year. But you know, they're smarter
• 56:45
  people than us that that are that are invested in these guys.
• 56:49
  So it can't it can't look too good for KTM if it can't be a
• 56:52
  little bit more consistent, consistent.
• 56:54
  Louis, anything you want to add before we move over to world
• 56:56
  super bike and and talk about what top rock and Bulaga is
• 56:59
  doing and your boy Sam lows? No, no, no, I mean the.
• 57:04
  Guys pretty much said everything.
• 57:05
  The only thing that I have to add to that is I've said that
• 57:08
  some of the tracks that are coming up are not going to be
• 57:10
  KTM friendly and some of the tracks are not going to be
• 57:13
  Yamaha friendly. I mean, the two bikes that seem
• 57:15
  to be the most dialed in, the Ducati and the Prelia, I mean,
• 57:19
  you could kind of see that in the performances.
• 57:22
  You would have seen it better if Martine didn't take out the
• 57:24
  entire team. But a Prelia bike is the only
• 57:27
  bike that consistently can compete with the Ducati at this
• 57:30
  point. All the other bikes have flashes
• 57:33
  of brilliance and I think still the Honda is even though people
• 57:38
  shit on. It I think the Honda.
• 57:40
  Is a little bit further along than the Yamaha because the
• 57:43
  Honda's been on AV motor for a long time.
• 57:46
  So they're just developing from a point where they're already at
• 57:49
  by, by Yamaha coming out with AV, they're kind of throwing up
• 57:53
  the signal that, you know, we understand that this is what we
• 57:55
  need to do. But now they also have a lot of
• 58:00
  work to do because they now they're going to have to fix
• 58:02
  this, you know, that now they're going to have to address what it
• 58:04
  takes to have AV motor, what chassis changes they have to do
• 58:08
  what this they have to do with that.
• 58:10
  They have to do. So there's, there's a, a, a long
• 58:13
  steep learning curve, I think coming up for Yamaha, whereas
• 58:17
  Honda's got that step up. And then unfortunately, KTM, I
• 58:24
  don't know exactly what to blame it on.
• 58:25
  I in a way, I kind of if, if, if Vinales was healthy and they
• 58:31
  were still having struggles, then I would say that it's the
• 58:33
  bike. But I think again, Vinales was
• 58:35
  the Canaveral in the coal mine for them.
• 58:37
  He was the one that was warning on what to do, what not to do.
• 58:40
  And when he got hurt, they had a setup and it worked a little
• 58:43
  bit. And he's still recovering.
• 58:45
  And I think until he recovers they're going to still be
• 58:47
  struggling to find that setup because realistically Vinales is
• 58:50
  the best rider that KTM has right now.
• 58:54
  Man, I never thought I'd be hearing.
• 58:55
  Those words at the end of the season.
• 58:58
  Trust you, man. We, we.
• 59:01
  We. We were saying off with their
• 59:03
  heads at the beginning of the season, yeah.
• 59:06
  But he's, you know. I knew, I knew, I knew Bastanini
• 59:09
  wasn't going to be doing all that much on the bike because he
• 59:13
  was on a factory Ducati and yeah, he was hurting everything
• 59:15
  else, but he should have really never gotten that factory seat
• 59:18
  to begin with, in my opinion. Oh, come on.
• 59:22
  I think there was. There was, yeah.
• 59:25
  We do another show on that whole episode.
• 59:30
  Episode or. Not.
• 59:34
  But. And then and Bender, Bender has
• 59:37
  been on KTM forever and he's just a, a middling rider.
• 59:41
  He's never going to, he's never going to be a champion.
• 59:43
  Man, I hate to say it. I'll put it out there right now.
• 59:46
  You'll never see Bender's name at the top of that championship
• 59:49
  trophy ever, especially if he stays with KTM.
• 59:53
  If he stays with KTM, this is he's reached his apex of what he
• 59:56
  can do with KTM, right? He should have left when Zarko.
• 59:59
  Left. Dude, real talk.
• 1:00:01
  Right there, yeah, yeah. Real talk right there.
• 1:00:03
  He should have pulled the. He should have pulled the RIP
• 1:00:05
  cord on that parachute because that plane was going down.
• 1:00:08
  Zarko knew it. And Brenda was like, no, they
• 1:00:12
  taking care of me and getting paid.
• 1:00:14
  Yeah, because, because. Like a few years ago he had a
• 1:00:17
  better chance of getting a factory seat or getting on a
• 1:00:18
  Ducati bike if he was, you know. But KTM locked them up with that
• 1:00:22
  big deal, three-year, 4 year, whatever deal they got them.
• 1:00:25
  So yeah, they definitely locked them.
• 1:00:27
  Up, you know, I mean. Locked them up back there in the
• 1:00:30
  back. We still ain't learning, but I'm
• 1:00:35
  earning, right? Let's let's.
• 1:00:39
  Let's talk about. World super bike.
• 1:00:40
  I mean, you know, it's you know, I'll say this, I'm glad to see
• 1:00:45
  Bulaga fight back and and when it was able to at least, you
• 1:00:50
  know, pull 2 away from from top rock because when you're
• 1:00:53
  fighting for a championship and and the guy just keeps stepping
• 1:00:56
  on you, keep stepping on you round after round, sometimes you
• 1:00:59
  might just say second start don't look good.
• 1:01:02
  What are you? What are your thoughts, TJ on on
• 1:01:05
  on the the races over there? Aragon, Aragon actually like
• 1:01:13
  Aragon. That's a nice track.
• 1:01:14
  So you can really get on the gas.
• 1:01:17
  There's nice back straight there, didn't really see all the
• 1:01:21
  races, but that's going to go back in and check, you know, all
• 1:01:25
  the detail and see all all around his special team.
• 1:01:31
  Oh yeah, I. See, I see that top, top rack,
• 1:01:34
  you know, won the first race, it looks like, and it's good to see
• 1:01:38
  that, you know, when the second race and third race is sweet to
• 1:01:41
  feel so like he usually does. So it does see that Bullock has
• 1:01:45
  still got the fight in him. I mean, like I said, racing for
• 1:01:48
  a championship, like he's still got to go, go all out at the end
• 1:01:51
  of the day until it's the last race, the the last moment,
• 1:01:56
  whatever. So he's going to do all he can
• 1:01:59
  to try his best. So I don't know, I don't know
• 1:02:02
  how many rounds are left. But you know, that kind of ride
• 1:02:05
  and do you think that gives more confidence to to Bulaga because,
• 1:02:10
  you know, it's just kind of like, I mean, he only gained 3
• 1:02:12
  points when it's all when it's all said and done.
• 1:02:16
  But does that give that kind of motivation to be like, all
• 1:02:19
  right, man, I can probably beat this guy at the rest of till the
• 1:02:21
  rest of the season. I don't know if it's enough to
• 1:02:23
  win, but at least it you know, it could be a thorn.
• 1:02:29
  TJ Yeah, I. Mean I'm looking.
• 1:02:33
  At it now he's only. Down, down on.
• 1:02:38
  Like 40 some points. So like say, I mean top right
• 1:02:42
  rarely has ADNF, but you got to think what's what can be
• 1:02:46
  possible. I mean, some people crash and
• 1:02:49
  still answer the race to to anticipate a red flag, to try to
• 1:02:55
  fix their bikes, to hope for a red flag.
• 1:02:57
  So you got to just hope for the best.
• 1:02:59
  They still not too far away. I don't know how many races are
• 1:03:03
  left, but on a race weekend they have a couple of races.
• 1:03:07
  So yeah, I. I agree.
• 1:03:11
  Anything what are your thoughts on on what the BMW is doing over
• 1:03:14
  there RE so it with top rock and you know what, what Bulaga is
• 1:03:18
  doing because like I mentioned the TJI mean like he like I
• 1:03:24
  mean, you know, obviously Bulaga's won before, but you
• 1:03:27
  know, this one. It's like a good basketball game
• 1:03:29
  when y'all, y'all are both playing hard and anybody could
• 1:03:32
  win and and usually it's top rock getting the better side of
• 1:03:35
  you, But you know, now you you you pull something out.
• 1:03:38
  So I mean, it's it's unfortunate for next season because top rock
• 1:03:43
  is leaving, but like, you know, Beluga's confidence got to be
• 1:03:46
  really high after these past these past rounds.
• 1:03:49
  I mean. Yeah, I mean his, his, his.
• 1:03:51
  His confidence goes high. I mean, you do you do roll your
• 1:03:54
  confidence in going into the next round or the next race, you
• 1:03:57
  do roll that in. So that does have a play a
• 1:03:59
  factor into it. I mean, because when you win, I
• 1:04:02
  mean, you're only riding that high horse.
• 1:04:05
  I mean, but at the end of the day, I mean, it's it's kind of
• 1:04:08
  sad. It's I mean, I always say this.
• 1:04:10
  It's not that you're going against BMW, you're going
• 1:04:12
  against top rat. You're not going against the
• 1:04:14
  bike. I mean, you know, it's the the
• 1:04:17
  BMW is a great bike. It's a it's a hell of a bike.
• 1:04:20
  I mean, but as far as certain things, it's the actual rider
• 1:04:26
  because you put top caliber guys on the bike before and where
• 1:04:31
  were they at? So you put top rack on it, he
• 1:04:35
  destroys. You put top rack on the Yamaha,
• 1:04:37
  he destroyed. You put him on anything else,
• 1:04:39
  he's going to destroy. It's just who he is, you know.
• 1:04:43
  So I mean Bullerger going against top rack and at this
• 1:04:48
  point in time, I don't think there's enough rounds left.
• 1:04:51
  I mean, unless you have ADNF with two rounds.
• 1:04:54
  So it says 100 points plus the Sprint races.
• 1:04:58
  No, 200 points because it's 25. Yeah, so.
• 1:05:03
  You can still win. But you you're hoping for Top
• 1:05:07
  Rank to DNF, and if he doesn't DNF mean you're kind of up
• 1:05:12
  shit's Creek without a paddle, right?
• 1:05:15
  Do you? Agree that you know, you know,
• 1:05:17
  it seems like Bulgar Rd. like Top Rock this weekend and like
• 1:05:20
  you pretty much, you know, had to put the bike in all the right
• 1:05:23
  places to get in front of Top Rock.
• 1:05:25
  He did. He had to put.
• 1:05:26
  It in the right place the right time.
• 1:05:29
  I mean, like like Lewis said, I mean certain tracks are are, you
• 1:05:33
  know, gear for that brand. It's just the way it's the way
• 1:05:35
  it is it this track may work well for Ducati.
• 1:05:38
  This track may work well for a Honda, may work well for Yamaha
• 1:05:41
  versus BMW. You know, Aragon may be great
• 1:05:44
  for Ducati. You know, it just may be the way
• 1:05:48
  it's designed, the way it's set up, but Ducati is going to work
• 1:05:50
  well on it. And then, you know, they got the
• 1:05:52
  next year's bike coming finally, the V4R, you know, so that might
• 1:05:55
  be work well for it, Right, Right.
• 1:06:00
  Lewis Mann, let's talk about the crashes.
• 1:06:02
  Let's talk about, you know, tough rock and, and Bouliger
• 1:06:06
  'cause, you know, Alvarez threw away some, some, some points as
• 1:06:11
  well and some opportunities. You know, we, we, and even in
• 1:06:15
  Noni, we're slowing down the pack as well.
• 1:06:18
  To, to, to kind of he, he's been kind of riding like that when he
• 1:06:21
  can to beat some guys so they can't find a way around them.
• 1:06:24
  But you know, how how did he like watching the race and
• 1:06:28
  seeing what Bulaga, how Bulaga was able to, you know, kind of,
• 1:06:32
  you know, give top rack a little bit of his own medicine?
• 1:06:35
  Well, are you trying to say that there's?
• 1:06:36
  Ducati guys that intentionally slow down other riders to try to
• 1:06:40
  win races. Is that what I'm?
• 1:06:42
  Hearing, I think that's. I think.
• 1:06:44
  I think that's what I heard. I'm fortunate that this
• 1:06:48
  chocolate. Chip cookies.
• 1:06:48
  You're always catching all. Right, you own a Ducati.
• 1:06:54
  Is that in the owner's manual? How to win on a Ducati?
• 1:07:02
  I actually enjoy watching any race at Aragon.
• 1:07:05
  I think Aragon is one of the greatest tracks that is out
• 1:07:08
  there. It's a beautiful track, the
• 1:07:10
  layout is great, everything. Boonlaga is going to fight to
• 1:07:14
  the end regardless. The only thing that I'm worried
• 1:07:19
  about is I'm worried about the state of World Super Bike going
• 1:07:22
  forward. And I don't know if you guys saw
• 1:07:25
  this, but there was an interview with top rack.
• 1:07:28
  And now that he's leaving World Super Bike, I think he's a
• 1:07:30
  little being a little bit more open in his interview is about
• 1:07:34
  certain things about World Super Bike that maybe in the past he
• 1:07:37
  wasn't so open about. Because when you're when you're
• 1:07:40
  working somewhere, you don't want to shit on the place you
• 1:07:42
  work on, But when you got a new job, it's like, yo, that place
• 1:07:45
  sucks. And during the interview, they
• 1:07:52
  asked him because the turn out at Aragon was weak.
• 1:07:55
  They had a really bad turn out. And if you think about it, when
• 1:07:59
  Moto GP goes to Aragon, they have an incredible turn out and.
• 1:08:04
  One of the things. That they asked him is, you
• 1:08:05
  know, what do you see as the future world super bike?
• 1:08:08
  And he said one, we're a World Championship series and we only
• 1:08:13
  have 1212 rounds. He's like, that's unacceptable.
• 1:08:18
  You know, you, we need to have at least 18 to 20 rounds if
• 1:08:22
  we're going to be considered a true world super Bike
• 1:08:25
  Championship. And we need and we need to go to
• 1:08:28
  other countries. And several times during an
• 1:08:30
  interview, he specifically said, I don't understand why we don't
• 1:08:33
  go to the United States. Why isn't the world?
• 1:08:37
  Super bike championship going to the United States.
• 1:08:43
  So and then the other thing that was kind of mentioned is, you
• 1:08:45
  know what, what does he see about the competition level?
• 1:08:49
  And pretty much he says, you know, the competition level is
• 1:08:52
  very high, but I think next year is there's going to be one guy
• 1:08:57
  that's going to win it. So it's almost like he knows
• 1:08:59
  when he leaves, Buliga is going to wipe the floor with everybody
• 1:09:03
  because it's the bullet. It's the Buliga tamp rack show
• 1:09:05
  now. And next year there's no top
• 1:09:08
  rack. So who's going to stop Buliga?
• 1:09:10
  Sam Lowe's only. Only Buliga and Gravity are the
• 1:09:14
  only two people that can can beat Buliga.
• 1:09:19
  Yeah. I mean, look.
• 1:09:20
  Eka Eka Eka might be able to to do something, but we don't.
• 1:09:25
  We'll see how he gets on on a Ducati, how quickly he get up to
• 1:09:27
  speed, but I think he has a talent to to, you know, to give
• 1:09:33
  it to to at least be competitive.
• 1:09:34
  But they're going to be on the same bike and have the same data
• 1:09:37
  and they both going to be working out that V4.
• 1:09:39
  So that's going to be, you know, the 1st 6 to 8 rounds anyway.
• 1:09:43
  Yeah, I don't see BMW. Being back at the front next
• 1:09:46
  year without top RAT because you know, the bike as good as it is
• 1:09:50
  as a street bike. I mean, it's the twenty 20s
• 1:09:53
  Gixxer. Everybody wants to buy it.
• 1:09:56
  As a track bike. There's not a lot of people that
• 1:09:59
  are competitive on it. There's not a lot of people at
• 1:10:01
  the very pointy end of the sword on that bike.
• 1:10:04
  The Yamaha still Yamaha. Yeah, the Yamaha is still the
• 1:10:08
  Yamaha. I mean, it's going to be the R1
• 1:10:11
  for the 17th year. And then what do you got?
• 1:10:17
  You got the Bimoda, the the Frankenstein of bikes.
• 1:10:21
  You got the you got the Kawasaki.
• 1:10:23
  That's not going to get any new parts.
• 1:10:26
  Hondas look good. But the CVR has been.
• 1:10:31
  The CVI mean it's all right that give the CVR a little bit, they
• 1:10:34
  change it a little bit, but they need a new plant, they need a
• 1:10:37
  new motor, they need a new setup like they need a new bike.
• 1:10:40
  And I don't, I don't see, yeah, you know, Honda coming to the
• 1:10:45
  market with a new super bike anytime soon, at least not for
• 1:10:48
  the next 2-3 years. So whereas Ducati's developing.
• 1:10:52
  A new bike every two years or three years.
• 1:10:54
  They're coming out with a new R model they can homologate to
• 1:10:57
  keep pushing that envelope forward.
• 1:10:59
  Everybody else is sitting on their hands, man, right?
• 1:11:02
  So you know. Before we get out of here, we're
• 1:11:04
  a little bit over over our time as is and, and, and I'll put
• 1:11:08
  this out to all you guys just based on what Lewis has said
• 1:11:11
  about top rack in his conversation in World Super
• 1:11:13
  Bike. You know, and we, we, we've
• 1:11:15
  talked about this from the beginning of the season with
• 1:11:16
  Motor America and to finish Motor America with
• 1:11:19
  record-breaking crowds in Jersey.
• 1:11:22
  And, and it shows like, you know, what what people are doing
• 1:11:26
  and investing to to grow the sport in Motor America is, is
• 1:11:30
  that more on the organization side of things to kind of like,
• 1:11:34
  let's figure out Motor World Super Bike and get the crowd,
• 1:11:37
  because that is a downside looking.
• 1:11:39
  They don't really show the stadiums that much or you know
• 1:11:41
  any like that when you look at World Super bike, but it is
• 1:11:44
  discouraging to not see a lot of people at at a world event like
• 1:11:48
  that if you actually. Notice what they do in World
• 1:11:51
  Super Bike. When they give you a ticket,
• 1:11:53
  they actually put you in a section where the camera is
• 1:11:55
  going to hit. They try to pan everybody into
• 1:11:57
  one section, so when you look at the actual back section, it's
• 1:12:00
  completely empty. Yeah.
• 1:12:05
  What are your thoughts TJ on? On is it is it is it?
• 1:12:07
  Donna needs to, you know, like, don't treat it like a stepchild
• 1:12:14
  and and and and, you know, invest into this thing.
• 1:12:17
  Yeah, I mean like. I.
• 1:12:20
  Mean they definitely need. To go to USI mean you got all
• 1:12:24
  this plan that we do with Moto GP and they're taking over like
• 1:12:28
  the F1 style and like that like raw super bike shouldn't be
• 1:12:32
  neglected. They definitely need more
• 1:12:34
  rounds. Never got to promote some yeah
• 1:12:37
  stuff. Promote some way, you know,
• 1:12:41
  definitely like to. See them come to.
• 1:12:42
  The US travel more definitely, at least more rounds if they
• 1:12:46
  don't come to the US somehow got to be televised a little better
• 1:12:51
  because just watching the races a little harder than Moto GP or
• 1:12:57
  even Moto American. So it's just just a little.
• 1:13:02
  Someone needs to fix the technology and then update some
• 1:13:05
  stuff, maybe some updates I agree with.
• 1:13:07
  You there? I know they're.
• 1:13:08
  Definitely doing. They've gotten a lot better in
• 1:13:10
  Moto GP. Last year was a little bit
• 1:13:12
  quirky. This year was way better.
• 1:13:14
  Is the best year for, for watching online and stuff like
• 1:13:17
  that. And I agree with you.
• 1:13:18
  I, I think like, you know, it, it, it's, I don't want to say
• 1:13:21
  it's like doing your taxes and you're looking for forms, but
• 1:13:24
  like if you missed the race week and you're trying to find the
• 1:13:26
  race, you kind of have to know where you're going to get there
• 1:13:29
  exactly. And I definitely kind of see
• 1:13:32
  them being treated like a little stepchild.
• 1:13:35
  But I feel like, I mean, like Lewis said, kind of worried for
• 1:13:40
  them next year because the top rock is, you know, the main guy
• 1:13:44
  right now. Everyone's going to go and watch
• 1:13:46
  Moto GP now to see what he's doing over there and kind of not
• 1:13:50
  really falling where a super bike.
• 1:13:51
  So they need to find some way going into this next series next
• 1:13:56
  year to give. Give away like like.
• 1:14:00
  A free weekend or something like every weekend is for free
• 1:14:05
  something or, or something, you know?
• 1:14:07
  Yeah, no, I, I, I agree with. You I mean, we're, we're fans of
• 1:14:10
  the sports, so we're not going to stop watching TJ.
• 1:14:13
  We're going to. We're going to find our way you.
• 1:14:14
  Know what I'm saying but. I, I, I feel you numbers guys,
• 1:14:19
  that guy, you know, you, you brought it up, you said it.
• 1:14:23
  If you're saying that we should be worried because you know that
• 1:14:26
  it sounds like they need a big injection of of cash and
• 1:14:30
  something I mean they. Need that.
• 1:14:32
  I don't know if it's. An injection of cash.
• 1:14:34
  I don't know if they're circling the wagons to try to profit as
• 1:14:38
  much as they can from what they already have, so that they're
• 1:14:41
  keeping more of the money instead of reinvesting it in the
• 1:14:44
  right way. There's certain things, you
• 1:14:46
  know, if you look at the Moto GP events and you look at the World
• 1:14:51
  Super Bike events, for me, the broadcast quality should be the
• 1:14:56
  same. I agree.
• 1:14:58
  But it's not the same. You know, in Moto GP you get a
• 1:15:02
  lot more helicopter shots. You don't see that many
• 1:15:05
  helicopter shots in World Super Bike.
• 1:15:08
  And the reason for that? 5 gallons man 5.
• 1:15:10
  Gallons of the diesel fuel. Oh no, the reason for that is
• 1:15:13
  they. Don't have a helicopter like at
• 1:15:16
  many rounds, they don't have a helicopter and you're a top
• 1:15:19
  level sport. Get a fucking gloom, man.
• 1:15:21
  Buy a DJI. You could, you don't have to buy
• 1:15:24
  a whole helicopter, but you got to do something, man.
• 1:15:26
  You got to bring that quality up.
• 1:15:28
  And then again you need, I understand there's a cost
• 1:15:30
  involved in shipping everything to the Americas to to to the to
• 1:15:34
  the Western Hemisphere, but schedule it the way that Moto GP
• 1:15:38
  does. Do a round in South America and
• 1:15:40
  do a round in North America and the round in North America.
• 1:15:44
  Combine it with possibly some Moto America racing as well to
• 1:15:48
  benefit both series to give the American class here.
• 1:15:52
  You know, that's what we used to do when they used to go to
• 1:15:54
  Laguna Seca, the support series. They would have super bikes,
• 1:15:58
  they would have American super bikes racing at Laguna Seca
• 1:16:01
  alongside either Moto GP or World Super Bike.
• 1:16:05
  And then some of our American riders could even wild card in
• 1:16:09
  the Super Bike race that weekend.
• 1:16:12
  You know, this is this is how you go to sport.
• 1:16:14
  You got to grow interest from within the country.
• 1:16:16
  If they go to Asia or they go to some other Asian market, you
• 1:16:21
  know, have some of the riders there in World Super Bike
• 1:16:24
  compete with them. Obviously you can't do that with
• 1:16:26
  Moto GP because if I put a hooked up R1 next to a Ducati
• 1:16:31
  Moto GP bike that she's going to get the doors blown off of it.
• 1:16:34
  But in world super bike, you can technically build a super bike
• 1:16:37
  attack has a super bike attack in a race in world super bike on
• 1:16:41
  a super bike. Bring world super bike here.
• 1:16:43
  Have guys from here be able to wild card in that event, it'll
• 1:16:46
  draw more interest. Have Motor America be part of
• 1:16:48
  the event, it'll draw more interest.
• 1:16:50
  It'll help both series role and you got to bring World Super
• 1:16:54
  bike back to this hemisphere, man, you can't because right now
• 1:16:57
  what it's starting to look like to me is the European Motor
• 1:17:01
  America. They race in Europe and they.
• 1:17:04
  Do one or two rounds in some other places, but they're mainly
• 1:17:07
  a European racing. So then don't call it the world
• 1:17:09
  super bike. Man, at that point it's the
• 1:17:11
  European super bike. Get rid of BSB and just make.
• 1:17:15
  It the European super bike because you're killing the
• 1:17:17
  sport, man And and I as a fan that loves super bike, I
• 1:17:22
  actually love super bike racing, man.
• 1:17:23
  I like to know that these things, even though they're not
• 1:17:26
  anything like you get on the showroom floor, they're built
• 1:17:28
  off a showroom platform. They're built off something I
• 1:17:31
  could buy and obtain myself. It won't be the same, but at
• 1:17:35
  least I own something similar to what that guy that's that I'm a
• 1:17:39
  fan of can ride. I can never own a Ducati Moto GP
• 1:17:42
  bike. I can never own a Honda Moto GB
• 1:17:45
  bike, but I can't own a CBR1000. I can't own a Ducati V4R.
• 1:17:50
  You. Know and again these.
• 1:17:52
  Are these are things that are at the manufacturer level and at
• 1:17:55
  the Dorner Racing level that they have to see that yes, if
• 1:18:00
  you make a great bike and that bike wins, that technically that
• 1:18:04
  bike sells and that bike gives you the opportunity because it
• 1:18:07
  sells to reinvest in developing better bikes.
• 1:18:11
  And this is what Ducati's been doing and that's why they're so
• 1:18:13
  dominant and I can't take it away from them.
• 1:18:15
  A lot of people like to complain about the Ducati Cup that can't
• 1:18:18
  complain from the dudes are by building bikes, making money,
• 1:18:22
  taking that money, building more bikes.
• 1:18:27
  So as a numbers. Guy fucking count some numbers,
• 1:18:30
  people. That's right, that's right.
• 1:18:34
  And on that note, we will get. Out of here Moto GP again is
• 1:18:37
  this weekend Indonesia looking forward to it.
• 1:18:40
  I do like the back to backgrounds because that means I
• 1:18:42
  get to watch racing. We every you know, 2 weekends in
• 1:18:45
  a row, so that's what's up. I want to thank TJ Reese from
• 1:18:50
  attack the Yamaha performance Reese, the numbers guy coming
• 1:18:53
  on. My name is Rex 45.
• 1:18:55
  It's to be forever. Cool podcast.
• 1:18:57
  Peace peace.