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what's going on everybody it
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is lunch time lunch with
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the clydesdale tuesday
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afternoon what's going on I
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was really struggling today
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to come up with some things
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to talk about on the show
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today and I made some stuff
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up had some stuff going on
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put it in the description
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and now I think we're gonna
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scrap most of that
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Um,
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I watched boys interrupted this morning
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and now I've got some content,
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got some content.
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So we're going to go down that road.
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The other thing is, uh,
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it was announced this
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morning that my Chicago
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bears signed Joe Tooney to
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a two-year extension.
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We traded for him this off season,
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got him from the Kansas city chiefs.
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He is considered to be the
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best offensive guard in football.
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And now we have signed him
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to a two-year extension.
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So we have him for three years.
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And that is awesome.
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I'm really excited about
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this year's bear season.
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I was excited last year and
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got thoroughly disappointed.
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I'm hoping this year is much better.
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The other thing about today
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is I hopped on here and
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StreamYard actually worked
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correctly today for the
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first time in like a week.
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So that's good news, right?
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So that only means that
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today's dart throw has got to be good.
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It's got to be.
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So here we go.
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If you guys saw where that land,
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you would laugh your ass off.
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Oh my gosh.
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So I have a shelf.
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I have a shelf below the
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dartboard where I put like
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markers and stuff for a
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whiteboard to like keep
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track of everything.
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I hit the front edge of the
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shelf with the dart and it
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is sticking right out of the front.
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Yeah.
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Terrible throw today.
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Jody Lynn says,
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is Tyson Bajan still with the Bears?
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He is.
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And I actually featured an
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interview with him on
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Friday's show right off the top.
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He actually brought up
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CrossFit in an interview
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with a local Chicago sports
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guy that does sports radio in Chicago.
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Brought up CrossFit as his workout style,
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what it means.
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He described it.
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Great ad for CrossFit.
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Talk about the kid preaching
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what CrossFit is and what
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it's done for him in his life.
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It's pretty freaking awesome.
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But he is still there.
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They love him there as their
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backup quarterback.
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But he's starting to gain
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interest from other teams.
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So I don't know what that means for him.
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So...
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I hope I would like for him to stay there.
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But my other hope is that
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Caleb Williams actually
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turns out to be a great
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quarterback as well.
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And then it's a good problem to have.
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But but he is still there.
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He is still their backup quarterback.
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But yeah,
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there's actually talk in some of
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the local circles that the
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Bears are trying to assign
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him to an extension.
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He'll make a lot more money
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than he did on his rookie contract,
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but I have not seen where
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that is or where that
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stands at this point.
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Corey says,
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if you look up good dude in the
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dictionary, there's a picture of Tyson.
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He's a good dude.
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It was a great interview.
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Being a Bears fan and just
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overall his optimism for
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everything and the way he
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looks at things is really, really cool.
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I really just enjoyed it.
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It was about thirty five minutes long.
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If you go back to Friday's show,
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I quote or I show the video
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so you can actually see
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where I got it from.
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But it's only thirty five minutes long.
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Super quick.
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And you can check that out there.
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It's actually called Recap, R-E-K-A-P.
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And it's David Kaplan is a
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sports radio guy on ESPN,
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one thousand in Chicago.
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And he does a podcast on the side.
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Clark says,
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given how few quarterbacks went
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in this draft,
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you might think some teams
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would be interested in Bajent.
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They actually talk about
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that on that show that I used on Friday,
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that the New Orleans Saints
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had contacted the Bears
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about the availability of
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Tyson Bajent because of
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Derek Carr's retirement.
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And they don't really have
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much in the quarterback category.
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room and they they did draft
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a quarterback this year but
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they did contact him about
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being the starter uh and I
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don't and I think the bear
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said no so there is
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interest in him and there
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is interest in him being a
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starter in the league but
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we'll see where that goes
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so the first thing I wanted
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to show real quick today
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and this isn't really what
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we're going to dive into
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but I wanted to show this
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I went to the CrossFit game
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site because yesterday in
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Dave's week in review,
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he said there's going to be
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a big announcement today.
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So I've been watching to see
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what that might be.
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Still nothing on the game site.
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Um, but I wanted to show this.
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I thought this was really, really funny.
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Um,
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so I go here and I click on the story
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just to make sure nothing is going on.
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And I don't know if you guys can see this.
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This is advertising for
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twenty twenty five CrossFit
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Games tickets.
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And the video they use is an
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athlete who has chose to
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sit out the twenty twenty
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five CrossFit Games season.
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I'm sure you have video
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footage of athletes who are
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actually participating in
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this season to sell your tickets.
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This is Jack Farlow with his
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big lift at the Games two years ago.
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It is a heck of a lift, Halpin,
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but you're advertising a person.
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It be like...
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It'd be like the Bears
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advertising season tickets
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with a picture of Mitch Trubisky.
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It just doesn't make sense.
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I mean, I don't know.
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That's just a thing I wanted to show.
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I just found it very
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peculiar that of all the
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video footage you have in
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the history of the CrossFit Games,
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I am sure that people that
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are participating in the season,
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people who have already qualified,
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you could use in the
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promotion to say whatever.
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I don't know.
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Andrew Sten says,
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maybe they did it to say we
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can use you in advertising
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our event that you don't want to go to.
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I guess.
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Hoppin says, oh, I get it.
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I have an article that was
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supposed to come out today,
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and I purposely didn't use
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non-games competing athletes.
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I think if you want to be
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topical and you want to
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talk about the season,
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you should use athletes
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that are competing in the season.
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It just makes sense.
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I mean,
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it's not like this huge error that
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is going to cost them their
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business or whatever.
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It just seems like a little
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bit of laziness or I don't know.
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The quality checks on these
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things you would think
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should be a little bit
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better than they are.
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Aaron Frazier says maybe
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there's NIL deals for
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CrossFit Games athletes.
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Yeah.
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NIL has spread from college
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football to the CrossFit Games season.
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But as of yet,
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the big announcement that's
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supposed to come out today,
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I have not seen anything on
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any of their socials.
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So still waiting to see if
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anything comes out from
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that announcement today.
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And that was something that
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Dave said in his week in
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review yesterday.
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And it seemed to be pretty
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big because he wanted to go
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into aspects of whatever
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this is going to be.
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And he kept stopping himself.
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So it doesn't seem like it's
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a simple thing like the
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lifting shoe is now the
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official lifting shoe of
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the CrossFit Games like we saw yesterday.
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It seems like a much bigger
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deal that's going to be announced today.
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So the other thing I wanted
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to talk about is Will Morad
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was on with the Boys Interrupted.
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And...
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And they actually talk about
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something we talked about
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last Friday when people in
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the comments here were
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saying that they didn't
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like the WFP because
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athletes were quitting.
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And so in The Boys Interrupted,
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Dallin actually speaks to
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this exact thing of
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athletes quitting during the WFP.
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And so I want to share this.
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So here we go.
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Again, this is Boys Interrupted.
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You can go to their YouTube
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channel to see the full
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interview with Will,
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but I'm going to do a
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little recap after this.
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I think some of the craziest
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comments I've seen is
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people saying that we're
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going to show up to these
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events and not try.
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There's no incentive to do
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well because there's the
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minimums on contract, all of those things,
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and I promise you,
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The last thing we want to do
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is show up and lose to any
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guy that's on the floor.
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And two, there are incentives to do well.
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Yes.
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Trust me,
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the last thing I want to do- The
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reason you're not out there
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is because you think that
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that's a possibility that
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we would show up and let someone beat us.
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Yeah.
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I mean,
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the last thing I want to do is-
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Stay out of my comments.
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Will these two dudes the
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next day listen to them
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beating me in a competition?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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It's important not to read too much.
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Dude,
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you're crazy if you think I'm just
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cashing a check.
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I love beating these boys.
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So they all speak to there's
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no way they're quitting on the field.
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They want to win every event.
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And...
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And that there is,
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there's too much
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competitiveness between them, uh,
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that money has no factor
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into this at all.
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Um, and so I find that, uh,
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I thought that was really
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cool because Justin Kotler
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jumped into the comments on
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Friday and said that, you know,
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these athletes would run
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over their grandmother to
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win a game of checkers.
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Um,
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And so I like that they kind
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of answered to that in kind
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of a comical way that they
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want to hear the BS from
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the other people that they lose to,
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and they want to beat each
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other so bad at every competition.
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Aaron Frazier says,
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Bethany Flores mailed it in.
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There are more competitive athletes.
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I think Bethany is an
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outlier in this case.
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Bethany got hurt.
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It seems like it's bigger
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than we know about.
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If you look at her social
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media and her YouTube channel,
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she actually did a long
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video about what happened,
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but she has not said what happened.
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And I think her idea was
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that she still wants to
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compete for a pro card,
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and right now her body just won't do it,
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but there was a way to go get some points,
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and then hopefully her body
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would be ready by tour stop
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two to then take whatever
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points she could earn and
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move forward into the season.
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But that's like a
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reoccurring thing with Bethany.
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It happened at Rogue.
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It's happened at the games.
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They're just...
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So, yeah.
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But the idea that people
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come in the chat and say
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that Laura quit on that
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last overhead walking lunge,
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there's no way in hell that
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woman would ever quit anything.
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If anybody's going to run
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over their grandmother to
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win a competition, it's Laura Horvat.
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And her body just gave up.
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She just couldn't.
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She missed on the last step
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of one of the lunges,
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and then she kept trying to
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rush it when she wasn't ready,
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and her arms gave out.
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Halpin does make a good
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point here that there is an
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incentive to do well,
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but there's also an
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incentive just to show up.
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You get two seventy season
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points for showing up.
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You get zero if you don't show up.
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So, yeah.
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And I think that that that
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is what happened with Bethany.
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But I think if you are
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healthy and you are there to compete,
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you don't want to lose.
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Aaron Frazier,
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she blew up like she did at Wazza.
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She did.
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And maybe that's a training
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thing because this has now
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happened at two events in a
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row where on the last event,
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she was unable to finish in a way.
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She lost to Lucy Campbell on
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the last event at
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Wattapalooza after having a lead.
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And then she loses on the
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overhead walking lunge
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because she can't get the
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twenty five feet in without
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dropping the dumbbells.
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Corey Leonard,
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you've never heard anyone say,
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I used to have a bad back.
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I feel Bethany is saying
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what Bethany is saying,
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but she may be done.
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And so, yeah, I, uh,
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hope not I think that
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bethany is the most
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talented athlete to never
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podium at the games because
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her her back has just never
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let her do it um and it's a
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shame because what I saw at
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west coast classic in I
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think it was she was as
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good as anybody at that point
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And it's just a shame that
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her back has failed her
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time and time again.
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And as someone who has had
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as many back procedures as I've had,
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I empathize with her in a huge way.
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So...
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So there we go.
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Haley Adams got a zero.
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Now the most Haley can get
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is fifteen hundred if she
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sweeps the next two.
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Anyone getting zero is
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behind every pro and
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challenger for a pro card,
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as is McQuaid and Kyra Milligan.
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Well, Kyra, Kyra was a challenger.
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She wasn't in the pro division, I believe.
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Um,
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but she did take a zero instead of
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taking whatever that was.
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But anyway,
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so I wanted to go over a couple
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of things that Will said in
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this interview,
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because I think it
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contradicts some other
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things that we've heard.
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And it just goes to show you
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that there's two sides to every story.
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And probably neither one of
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them are a hundred percent accurate.
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There's probably something
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in the middle that's more accurate.
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And so they were talking
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with will on there and the, and the,
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and the boys, Dallin, Jason,
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and Justin were doing a lot
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of comparisons between
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CrossFit and the WFP.
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And one thing they said is
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that they felt listened to, um,
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during this,
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which they don't always feel
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like that is the case with CrossFit.
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Uh, when they bring things up there,
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sometimes you don't get a response.
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They said they used one
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example that Pat Felner,
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a lot of times in an athlete briefing, uh,
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when they're told that they
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cannot do something and he'll say,
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what happens if I do it anyway?
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And they just say, don't do it.
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And there's no real answer
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as to what happens if you do.
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in this case at the wfp they
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were told those things or
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they changed the rule to
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allow it if they couldn't
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come up with a good reason
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to not allow it they did
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will talked about why
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things why the feed was on
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their website as opposed to
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um youtube and it's because
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If you watch the feed, you saw commercials,
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which we never see on the CrossFit feeds.
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Like there were Stri-V ads,
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there were Adidas ads,
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there were a lot of different ads.
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And they can control that on
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their own website.
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They cannot control that in YouTube.
18:04
And so they were actually, I'm assuming,
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getting paid for those ads,
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or there was a deal done
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for those companies to get those ads,
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and they couldn't do that
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on the YouTube platform.
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They did say that they
18:20
realized that there is a
18:21
big problem with not being able to rewind,
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and they are working on that.
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The reason they could not
18:28
rewind is because of the AI
18:30
translation problem.
18:32
but they are looking at
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doing an English only
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version that you can rewind
18:36
for tour stop two.
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Will also said they had
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about a half a million viewers.
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I don't know if there's a
18:47
way to confirm that because
18:48
it is self-contained and on
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their own website.
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There's no way to really see
18:52
if those numbers are in fact true.
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Um, they did,
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will did say that the
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lighting at the event was
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done by the world wrestling entertainment,
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WWE.
19:04
Um,
19:04
they brought them in to give it a
19:06
different look, to give it more of a,
19:09
like a theatrical look to
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the whole thing.
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Um, and that's what they did.
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And the,
19:14
the boys on the show said that
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they actually did like the
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lighting and some of the
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effects that happened.
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Um,
19:20
especially when the lights followed
19:22
them down the floor, uh,
19:23
to follow the storyline.
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Um,
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And they did not speak to
19:30
the jerk itself in the
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lighting that has been
19:33
brought up a couple times.
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So there's that.
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And then he also answered
19:41
the question as to,
19:43
was there a meeting set up with CrossFit,
19:45
as Dave had said on his
19:47
Week in Review a week ago,
19:49
and what happened there?
19:51
And that is that there was a
19:55
meeting set up
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will was it was will was not
20:00
the point of contact for
20:01
that meeting but he was on
20:03
that initial email the
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world fitness project
20:06
according to will wrote
20:08
back and said could they
20:09
reschedule because they had
20:11
some people out of the
20:12
country at the time that
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the sit down was to happen
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when they sent that email back
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Will never got another email
20:22
back on anything, but then again,
20:24
he was not the lead person.
20:26
So he can't speak for sure
20:27
that CrossFit never got back,
20:29
but they did say that they
20:32
did ask for a reschedule.
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And Will said,
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I never heard another word
20:36
from that point forward.
20:37
And he also said that Dave
20:39
never tried to reach out to
20:40
him personally, but when asked,
20:45
would they do that?
20:46
Would they do, um,
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and a sit down.
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Will said with the pending
20:54
sale of CrossFit,
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what's the point in going
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and having a long
20:57
discussion with the people
20:58
that are there when if they sell,
21:01
it may not be the same
21:02
people there in a few months,
21:06
which I thought was
21:07
actually a pretty excellent point.
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Why would you meet with
21:10
people if they're not going
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to be there in a few months?
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Um,
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And again,
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we don't know what's happening
21:17
with the sale.
21:18
We don't know who's gonna be retained.
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We don't know who's gonna be let go.
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And so I do kind of
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understand when you're trying,
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when you're busy trying to
21:26
put this thing on for the first time,
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why would you waste time
21:31
having conversations with
21:32
people that may not be a
21:33
factor when it comes to that?
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Andrew Sten says in CrossFit's defense,
21:44
you don't want to have a
21:45
negotiation with athletes in a briefing.
21:47
Yes, there should be some set penalties,
21:50
but often athletes are
21:51
looking for ways to skirt the standards.
21:53
The other thing that I think
21:54
the WFP did differently is
21:57
that they released the event,
21:58
the events three weeks ahead of time.
22:01
So there was plenty of time
22:02
to ask some questions
22:03
before the briefing to get
22:05
some things ironed out
22:06
before the briefing happened.
22:08
And I think that that was a good thing.
22:10
And they also let coaches in the briefing,
22:13
which isn't always allowed by CrossFit.
22:18
It's the same reason many
22:19
athletes ask judges when
22:20
they walk out what they should be doing.
22:23
Yeah, that should never happen.
22:25
As a judge,
22:25
you're told not to tell them anything.
22:30
And Corey, of course,
22:31
doesn't follow the rules.
22:36
Yeah.
22:37
The judge is not supposed to
22:39
clarify anything out there
22:40
that that should be done by a head judge.
22:45
Has the jerk been brought up
22:46
by any athlete that competed?
22:48
I have not heard a single
22:49
athlete talk about the lighting.
22:57
And Andrew, this is what we're taught.
22:59
And Corey,
23:00
that is why we tell judges to say,
23:01
do what you were briefed.
23:02
Athletes are briefed in the big briefing.
23:04
And right before the event,
23:05
I tell judges to be a jerk
23:07
and shut down questions.
23:13
Um, Aaron Fraser,
23:14
I don't think that athletes
23:16
are the only opinion that matters,
23:18
but I think in this point where they were,
23:20
Will was talking to athletes.
23:22
So you're getting, um,
23:25
he was getting feedback on
23:26
what they felt was going on
23:30
with the WFP and what their
23:31
reactions was from the athletes.
23:33
But I do know that they also
23:34
asked spectators, they asked volunteers,
23:37
they asked other people.
23:40
And I know that Dallin even
23:41
brought up in one of his
23:42
suggestions that the
23:44
community event seemed
23:45
forgotten about back in the corner.
23:47
And that I guess they are
23:49
going to work to get the community event,
23:51
at least a few events on
23:52
the main competition floor for Mesa.
23:58
so um the way I took coaches
24:17
and briefings was they are
24:18
allowed that they are
24:20
allowed just coaches to go
24:22
to the briefing meaning
24:23
athletes weren't required
24:23
to sit through them if they
24:25
wanted to leave um
24:31
think what the the guys were
24:32
referring to is sometimes
24:33
at the games the coaches
24:35
are not allowed at the
24:36
games briefings um and I
24:41
and I don't and I think
24:43
I've heard dave say that
24:45
there are times that they
24:46
want the athlete to be able
24:47
to make their own decisions
24:48
without it without a
24:50
coach's um input but I
24:53
don't think that tests anything
24:56
If you're going to be more
24:57
of a pro-ish style sport,
25:00
then athletes are going to have coaches.
25:03
That's just what's going to
25:04
be the case and why.
25:06
But I know in tennis,
25:07
like you're not supposed to
25:08
be allowed to talk to your
25:09
coaches during a tennis match.
25:12
Once you're out on the floor,
25:13
you can't really talk to your coach,
25:16
but that's tennis.
25:17
So.
25:24
dry your dagger telling my
25:26
kids I won the first ever
25:27
WFP community events since
25:28
there will never be any
25:29
proof or any eyewitness
25:31
testimony to say I didn't.
25:34
I'll clock correct me tennis
25:35
does allow it now.
25:51
Yeah.
25:52
What?
25:53
And maybe like I just been
25:55
around too long and too
25:56
much stuff is cluttered in my head.
25:58
I think it was a two
25:59
thousand sixteen games when
26:00
they went to Aromas.
26:01
They took the athletes but
26:02
didn't allow the coaches to go.
26:04
So when they went to Aromas,
26:06
they didn't have in the ranch.
26:08
They didn't have the coach
26:10
with them to help them kind
26:11
of figure out what was
26:12
going on on the fly.
26:14
And that was intentional by Dave.
26:17
So maybe I'm just
26:19
remembering too many things.
26:20
But that was what was said by Jason,
26:24
Justin, and Dallin.
26:26
And nobody quibbled with it.
26:28
So I don't know what's going on there.
26:43
um d reed says in individual
26:45
sports the onus is on the
26:46
athlete to know the rules
26:47
and what to do yeah but
26:52
anyway I thought it was
26:53
just an interesting
26:54
conversation to kind of
26:56
hear what will had said
26:59
especially about uh the
27:02
communication with crossfit
27:04
and whether they
27:05
And the reason why they
27:07
wouldn't meet with them now
27:09
until the sale is done,
27:10
that made a lot of sense to me.
27:12
I don't know.
27:16
I think it's a cool concept
27:18
what they have going on.
27:19
And I know that I'm probably
27:20
in the minority.
27:22
I do like the season
27:23
structure that they have.
27:26
And so, like, I'm all in for that.
27:33
So...
27:38
Anyway,
27:39
what else do we have on the docket today?
27:44
I saw an interesting, well,
27:45
I was watching dense
27:46
updates this morning and
27:48
she brought up an
27:49
interesting conversation
27:51
about teams that.
27:56
at the regional level or at
27:58
TFX's last weekend,
28:00
the vibe when the pro teams
28:02
were on the floor was
28:04
higher than when the
28:05
individual athletes were on
28:07
the floor because the teams
28:09
draw more people from the
28:10
affiliates to the event.
28:15
But then when we get to the games,
28:17
the stadium empties when
28:18
the teams hit the floor
28:20
because everybody's there
28:21
to see the individuals.
28:26
And so that brings up like a conundrum.
28:30
Do we need the teams to
28:34
actually fill the stands on
28:37
the way up to the games?
28:41
And then because they helped us get there,
28:43
we can't ignore them once
28:44
we get to the games.
28:52
And I thought she made a great point.
28:54
I remember back in the regional days,
28:57
the teams were well attended.
29:00
It was as loud for the teams
29:02
as it was for the
29:04
individuals because they
29:06
were associated with an affiliate.
29:08
The affiliate would drive to
29:09
the regional event and they
29:11
would cheer their asses off
29:13
for those people because it
29:15
was more the people that
29:16
they worked out with on a
29:18
day-to-day basis.
29:21
And it seemed like that's
29:22
what happened at TFX.
29:24
You had big crowds going to
29:26
TFX just to see the teams
29:28
and root on their friends
29:30
than there was in an
29:32
individual field where
29:35
people were from all over
29:36
the western part of the North America.
29:44
And Aaron says,
29:45
that's the difference from
29:46
regional teams and
29:47
communities versus super
29:48
teams not connected to the communities.
29:51
I think you're right.
29:54
I think that back then the
29:57
affiliate teams were a big
29:59
part of regionals because
30:01
they did bring in the crowds.
30:03
That's when the regionals
30:05
were way more attended than
30:07
anything that we have done
30:08
in the past five years.
30:19
I think hearing the teams
30:21
themselves on what would work,
30:24
I was cheering on local
30:25
teams even though I don't
30:26
go to their gym.
30:27
Yeah, that makes sense.
30:29
I know in two thousand
30:30
sixteen when the regionals
30:31
were here in Columbus,
30:34
two local Columbus gyms
30:35
were in the in the race for
30:38
the last spot to go to the games.
30:42
they were like fifth and
30:42
sixth place it was crossfit
30:44
grandview and uh cross our
30:47
friendship crossfit and the
30:50
place was going ballistic
30:52
when they were on the floor
30:53
because it was the two
30:54
local teams trying to vie
30:56
for that last spot to the
30:57
crossfit games and it was
30:59
so so loud and the funny
31:01
thing is the guy on
31:02
crossfit one of the guys on
31:03
crossfit grandview that
31:04
year was joey tutoro who is
31:07
colton's coach now
31:10
But it was insane.
31:11
Insane during those events.
31:19
Coda had five teams there.
31:20
They did.
31:22
Imagine how many people that
31:23
draws in from Coda.
31:25
And I know there's like
31:26
three or four different
31:27
locations of Coda.
31:29
So... Yeah.
31:34
I just...
31:35
I think she's right.
31:36
I think that we do need to
31:38
kind of bring back the teams into these.
31:41
If we're going to keep the
31:43
in-person qualifying events,
31:46
maybe teams should be
31:47
included in that to get a
31:49
spot or two to the games.
31:57
why not?
31:58
If, if,
31:58
if TFX is going to hold a pro
32:00
division for teams,
32:01
syndicates holding a pro
32:02
division for teams,
32:03
why not give them a spot or
32:05
two to fill for the CrossFit games?
32:14
It only makes sense, right?
32:15
Like,
32:17
They're already doing it.
32:19
Why not put the legitimacy
32:22
on it instead of an online
32:24
version with no video
32:26
review and just trust
32:28
everybody that's doing it?
32:39
D. Reed,
32:40
this is why belonging to an
32:41
affiliate matters.
32:42
I would include that for individual.
32:44
The games has to be a
32:45
showcase for the affiliate
32:46
and the community.
32:52
And then, I mean,
32:53
I do have to jump off here
32:54
because I do have a one o'clock meeting,
32:55
but, um, but why,
33:00
what happens if what Matt
33:03
Sousa said is right this
33:05
week and Berkshire decides
33:07
to sell off the,
33:10
the games portion of
33:12
CrossFit to this new group
33:15
out of Texas who may only
33:17
want to buy the sports side
33:19
and not the affiliates.
33:22
If that happens and there's
33:25
no connection with the community,
33:29
we're in trouble.
33:34
We're in trouble.
33:35
And that can be a longer
33:36
discussion tomorrow when I
33:39
have Corey on or on Thursday.
33:41
But it seems insane to me
33:46
that that would happen.
33:49
I don't know.
33:55
Uh, Aaron Frazier agree.
33:57
Look at the crew Haley
33:58
brought to semis when she
33:59
was at the affiliate in Virginia.
34:05
Um,
34:06
I would argue that Haley brings a big
34:07
crowd wherever she goes in semis.
34:10
And even if she's back at mayhem,
34:12
that's still an affiliate and they,
34:14
they ride deep there too.
34:17
Um,
34:17
Austin Hatfield brought a huge number
34:20
to semis last year, Austin and Haley, uh,
34:25
Their crowds were so big
34:28
last year at the affiliate, for sure,
34:30
at the semifinals.
34:34
D. Reed says,
34:34
the sport without the
34:35
affiliates will die.
34:37
That's my fear.
34:38
That's my fear without the
34:39
connection because...
34:43
And that's where I think
34:44
like the WFP might get the
34:45
upper hand if this does happen,
34:47
because they're
34:48
establishing a tour that
34:51
isn't necessarily community based.
34:54
And maybe it will be easier
34:57
for them to move forward
34:58
than whatever they're doing
34:59
on this other side.
35:01
And again,
35:02
I don't know what the plan is to
35:03
do with it.
35:04
Um,
35:07
I've heard some rumblings on
35:08
the wp stuff that they
35:09
already have lined up that
35:11
could help them sustain
35:12
things and move things
35:13
forward uh but none of that
35:16
is confirmed so I don't
35:17
want to really dive into
35:18
that too much I I think
35:22
that splitting the
35:23
affiliates and the crossfit
35:24
games is a huge mistake and
35:27
I wasn't always a thinking
35:29
on this side um but I do
35:32
think so now for sure
35:35
that it's got to get back
35:37
somehow to a
35:38
community-based event a
35:48
t-bird the sport is
35:49
different than it once was
35:51
it's sport not affiliate
35:52
crossfit it is but the
35:55
affiliates are what filled
35:57
the arenas back in the regional days
36:01
And when we've moved to a
36:03
different concept, we lost.
36:06
We lost the crowds.
36:07
And somehow we've got to get them back.
36:11
And if that means that you
36:12
have to find a way for
36:13
people to come root on their friends,
36:16
we've got to figure that out.
36:20
Got to figure that out.
36:26
But it all comes down to
36:28
like having a plan.
36:29
Um, and I'm,
36:30
and I'm not sure that CrossFit
36:32
has sat down and had a
36:33
long-term plan in a while.
36:36
That just, it has.
36:39
And I talked about that
36:41
Sunday night a little bit
36:43
at the beginning.
36:44
I just watching welcome to
36:46
Rexham and watching how
36:49
they sit down with their
36:51
group and have a plan.
36:53
I don't think that CrossFit
36:54
has had those discussions.
37:03
Denise, I feel if the sport gets spun off,
37:05
then I don't see any reason
37:06
for affiliates to do the open.
37:08
You're probably right.
37:12
The sport cannot sustain
37:13
itself without the affiliates.
37:17
I agree.
37:18
Especially if it's just
37:19
another private equity firm
37:20
coming in and taking it over.
37:22
Like they're not going to
37:23
invest enough money into
37:24
the sport to create something new.
37:28
Because they're there to make money,
37:30
not spend money.
37:43
CrossFit doesn't get to
37:44
decide who they sell to or
37:46
at least full control.
37:48
Selling for parts is very risky.
37:50
It is.
37:51
But that is the decision of
37:53
Berkshire right now.
37:57
So everybody's just waiting
37:59
with bated breath to see
38:01
who is going to win the
38:03
bidding war for whatever is there.
38:09
Aaron,
38:09
they're just holding on because they
38:10
don't have a real leader.
38:13
Well,
38:14
it's hard to tell who the leader is
38:16
because you have this
38:16
private equity firm that
38:17
really does own them.
38:19
And they're the ones who
38:20
make the ground rules for
38:21
what the CEO can do.
38:24
So that really handcuffs the
38:25
CEO in what they want to do
38:27
on the day-to-day life.
38:29
The CEO is just the
38:31
public-facing figure that
38:33
takes all the heat.
38:35
But the rules come from the board.
38:39
I mean, we can't forget that.
38:41
And they say what can and
38:43
cannot be done going forward.
38:58
Not that WFP is for sale,
39:00
but if you look at what's
39:01
been said about TPG,
39:03
why would someone buy
39:04
CrossFit Sport versus WFP?
39:09
I don't think they should.
39:11
unless they see something in
39:13
it that we don't.
39:18
And from what I understand,
39:19
TPG is buying up a lot of
39:21
niche sports to put together.
39:25
And the only the only like
39:26
parallel to that that I can
39:27
see is like the extreme
39:29
sports category with what
39:33
Red Bull TV has done to
39:34
make a lineup of these
39:35
niche sports in the extreme
39:39
sports category that they
39:41
can air on their Red Bull channel.
39:44
throughout the day and then
39:46
they create a conglomerate
39:47
of stuff that together they
39:49
kind of support each other
39:51
and it seems to me that tbg
39:53
is trying something in that
39:54
vein um but I don't they
39:57
were only created a few
39:58
weeks ago so to understand
40:01
what their plan and their
40:02
process is and what they're
40:03
trying to do we are way too
40:05
early in the game to figure all that out
40:11
Love, welcome to Wrexham, and I do too.
40:14
I can't wait to dive into
40:15
the rest of the season.
40:21
Good point.
40:22
Red Bull TV was talked about
40:23
a lot at WFP and Indy.
40:27
Yep.
40:28
That's what I call a breadcrumb, Mike.
40:30
That's what I call a breadcrumb.
40:34
As I look around, that's a breadcrumb.
40:38
Just saying.
40:41
But anyway, I have got to go.
40:43
I've got a meeting in about
40:45
four minutes and I've got
40:46
to get changed into my work clothes.
40:48
So with that, guys,
40:50
thank you so much for being here.
40:51
You knuckleheads get back to
40:53
work and we will see
40:54
everybody tomorrow on
40:56
Cooking Up Cajun with lunch
40:58
with the Clydesdale.
40:59
Bye, guys.