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#222: Paranormal Activity 3 (2011) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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movie? Come on, Randy, welcome to
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What's Your Least Favorite Scary Movie?
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The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and
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the absurd and all of our favorite.
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And least. Favorite scary movies?
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Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has this fan
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base. If we don't always get it.
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My name is Travis. My name is Jesse, and today we
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are talking Paranormal Activity Three.
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Yeah. Back to the paranormal activity.
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And we can thank all of our bubbies over at the Patreon.
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Yes, for this. This was their vote this month.
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Our budget's here and bug Ted bug.
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Ted, Yeah, bug Ted can also do. That too, yeah.
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So thank you guys so. Thank you guys for choosing
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this. We have taken far too long a
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break from paranormal activity. Been about a year.
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With me, yeah, yeah. It's been a while.
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So it was nice to get back to it.
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Actually, over a year, yeah. Yes, I forgot you were gonna do
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that for the intro. I thought you were gonna do
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Bloody Mary, but then I realized if we were gonna do that, you
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would have asked me to join. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, yeah, come on, Randy, come. On Randy, the more guttural, the
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more I do it in a single sitting.
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You'll have to remind me of the context of that because I forgot
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it. Is when they're doing bloody
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Mary and it starts shaking and Katie is scared and he's like no
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it's okay it's okay and he's. Trying to like, he's like, come
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on already. I love that scene.
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He's like Oh my God, fuck, fuck, fuck.
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Totally cool. Yeah, like.
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Everything's fine, Sage. Whispering to himself and he's
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not realizing that Katie can. Actually hear she's like, right
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there, locked in the bathroom. This is what you have to look
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forward to, Yeah, on this episode.
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So thank you guys for being here.
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Yeah, we get Toby back. Yeah, Toby, Toby, Toby.
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So Speaking of Toby, we got Toby.
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Or not. Toby this.
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Weekend. Nice, good job.
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Spelled almost the same because this Toby Demon Toby is TOBI
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according to the wiki. The captions in there had the Y
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all right. If it's with an I, then that's
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how I'll draw Toby in the cover art.
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That's. I'm just saying I.
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Give him a little name on his thing.
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He's just got it on his tummy. So I was pitching like a hi, I'm
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Toby. No, I've always just kind of put
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it on his tummy. I made my own little Toby
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character design for Paranormal Activity 2 when we did that
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episode, so I'm keeping that consistent well.
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Then keep the Y consistent then. I think I might have done it
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with an I back then though, so I don't remember.
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I don't, I don't remember. Yeah, we'll figure it out.
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So that's we've got all the fun, none of the facts anyway.
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Yeah. Just be looking out for to be or
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not to be this Sunday. That is our monthly bonus
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episode. It is live and unedited.
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So if you think we're a hot mess right now, just you wait till
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then. Yeah.
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OK, Travis, yes. Poll results, Poll results, All
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right. And I appreciate those of you
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who followed the instructions. Yeah, because our whole plan
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with this poll was for everybody to send us pictures of their
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dogs. And some of you did.
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So the poll was can dogs look up and parentheses send proof.
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So you have to. You should be sending proof with
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these. Yeah.
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So thank you to the ones that did.
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Let's see, should we shout them out individually?
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We only had two dog pics we had Ty and Tucker.
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You guys are the ones that sent you like little dog pictures and
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they were so. Adorable, yes.
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Tucker's dog got a treat out of its ordeal, like it's licking
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his lips in the picture. Good for him.
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Yeah, so is. It him or her I.
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Don't know. No.
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Him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She she you're a liar. Well, I see he's talking about
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Ed also from the movie here, so I'm confused.
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Okay, she wins, good for her. Okay, anyways, the results, yes.
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So on Instagram 100% say yes. Stocks can look up and over on
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Twitter, 67% say yes and 33% say no.
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And I think Joe was one of the no's there because he says big,
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big Allen knows what he's talking about and that that's
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not proof enough. Joe, I'm sorry.
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Yeah, we. We need a dog.
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Pictures, Joe. Come on, you're supposed to be
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freedom of Tron. He's back to Freakatron, I
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think. OK, where the?
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Season of freedom is over. Yes, freedom is dead.
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OK, so that was our poll results.
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Obviously we believe that they can look up because we have our
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own dog picture that we will share.
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And should be posted hopefully by the time this episode comes
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out, unless we get very distracted.
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And then we'll do a while. Nick Cage this weekend.
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Yeah. So we, yeah, we have a little
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picture of Talia looking up. So we.
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Got a statue of a dog? A dog that's also looking up.
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Double confirmation. Yes, Yes.
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All right. So that's it for that.
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So, ready for paranormal activity?
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Ready, ready, ready. All right, let's do it.
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OK Paranormal Activity released October 21st 2011.
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We watched it on our DVD. Yep, cuz we have that.
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Shit got all of them except for the paramount marked.
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One no next of kin next. We had this conversation last
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night. I just I forget which one's the
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last one. Yep, I bought this six pack at
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Walmart while I was getting my oil changed.
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Get more. 6 packs are always when you have the entire
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franchise on it. Single DVD pack I'm all about.
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It Yes, absolutely. OK.
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Available in the US as of July 13th on Mac's YouTube Premium,
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YouTube TV Primetime, Hulu Premium and Prime Premium.
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Or you can rent it from Google Play or Fandango at home.
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Formerly Voodoo, Yes. Written by Christopher Landon,
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Yeah. Christopher Landon back.
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Back on the show so soon. Welcome back.
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Glad to have you here. Directed by Henry Juiced and
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Ariel Shulman Travis. Do those names sound familiar
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to? You Shulman does, but juiced not
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so much. So I did not look up any of
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their other filmography. It's just when I was looking at
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some of the background for the movie.
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They also directed the documentary Catfish, not the MTV
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show that came. Original original documentary.
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Oh, that's them. Yeah.
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So they were like, hey, you guys do real shit.
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Like, can you come over here and do like a pretend real movie?
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I guess so. I guess so that's gotta be.
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I I didn't look up anything beyond that.
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It just in parentheses, said directors of Catfish
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documentary. And I was like, oh shit, I
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remember when that came out. That was huge.
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Yeah, it was. I was enthralled by it because I
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wanted to know. I was like, obviously something
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bad's going to happen, but I want to watch it play out.
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I never watched it, I always felt weird to do a whole show
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based off of it. But I've never watched the show
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because the show goes. And I mean, here's the whole
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thing with, like, we've talked about this before with, like,
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true crime, how it's kind of exploitative and can be icky
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depending on how it's done. That's how the show is.
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That's how I feel about the show.
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Like, it's like, it's very Jerry Springer esque, but like, yeah,
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not in front of the live TV audience.
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No audience. We're not covering this for the
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show, but I'm sorry for talking about it.
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But it was very much like a real, like it was a new thing at
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the time. So yeah, compelling movie at
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that time, but then when the fucking shows go on like in the
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20 tens, it was just some of its.
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Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Don't have a composer cuz
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there's not really music in this movie, which I always forget
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until I go to get this background information.
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It's. Gonna be nice and not have to
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worry about that. Surprisingly, we do have the
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special effects makeup company credited.
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Really. Oh well, there's some shit that
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goes. Down.
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Yeah, I guess there is a little bit of shit.
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So we've got almost human ink. Almost human ink.
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That sounds like we've talked about them before too.
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That sounds familiar. Does sound vaguely familiar?
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So whenever they did one of the other paranormal activities
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maybe? Maybe starring Chloe Chandri as
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Katie, Jessica Tyler Brown as Christy Christopher, Nicholas
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Smith as Dennis, Lauren Bittner as Julie, Hallie Foote as
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Grandma Lois, and Dustin Ingram as Randy Rosen Travis, time for
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our favorite game budget or? Bug.
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Ted. These are cheap as hell, so it's
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bug Ted. Do you want to guess?
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Because it's kind of a known quantity.
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They're Blum House. They made Blum House, Blum
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House. They really did.
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This is the bum house is built on the backbone of this
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franchise. Blum House is.
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Built on a camcorder, yeah. For sure.
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That's how they were like, oh fuck we just repeat.
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I'm gonna say they at least still invested some money into
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this to make it a decent movie. So I'd say like maybe 3 million.
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5 million. $5 million. 5 million.
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Holy hell, I wonder what? They had to pay per earthquake.
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Earthquake per lamp swing. Yeah, yeah.
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Opening box office of 52.5 million.
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Opening. For the weekend, opening weekend
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holy. Shit.
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Worldwide gross of 207 million. God damn.
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And guess what? Yeah, I even have home sales
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figures. Really.
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Yes. What?
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3.6 million. Shit man, that's pretty damn
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good. Yeah, I saw that figure pop up
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and I was like, Travis is going to be so excited.
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I. I love me some physical media
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stuff, so that's crazy now. You're sure the bad news?
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OK, it's got a 5.8 on IMDb. That's surprising because I know
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this is a lot of people's favorites.
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Yeah. So does that mean that the
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others are rated lower? I don't know.
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I don't. Know yeah, OK.
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I'm very excited about my theme for three other 2011 horror
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movies. You hype the sub so I'm curious
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to know what it is. My theme is you should probably
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break up. Wait a minute, they don't.
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This guy is in nowhere near the same realm as Mika.
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OK, He's actually like a decent dude.
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No, I mean at the end when Grandma Lois is trying to use
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him for a ritual and Toby's trying to get him killed off and
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all of that, he should break up for his own good.
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Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah.
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OK, OK, sure. That's good though.
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There's a lot less girl boss gatekeep Gaslight in this movie
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than there is another movie. Yeah, they're paranormal.
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There's more Julie doing a little bit of it, but she has
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like legitimate reason to be. It's a.
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Little at the beginning, it's mostly just them gaslighting
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their children. That's true.
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Yeah. They're like, oh, Toby's not
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real, Chrissy. Shut the fuck up about Toby.
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OK, so my first movie is your next.
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Perfect. Which premiered at the Fantastic
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Fest on September 24th, 2011 that had a budget of $1 million
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in a worldwide gross of 26.8 million and brought Barbara
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Crampton back to all of our hearts and.
11:18
Mouths yes, she's the only one that shouldn't break up with her
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spouse and her partner and that one everybody else doesn't need
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each other in their lives. That has a 6.6 out of 10 on IMDb
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and you guys, I swear we're going to cover this on the show
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someday. It all the time.
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We it's one of those that we keep thinking we've already
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covered it and then we remember we haven't.
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It's probably going to be a November movie since it's so
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Thanksgiving is. Yeah.
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And I take it back what I said because Ty West and his
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girlfriend in that movie are good partners, too.
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So they're fun. Yeah.
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She's. Very supportive.
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She's like, well, he's artistic, but he's got to direct some
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commercials to. Trust me, I'm gonna make up a
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I'm gonna make a fucked up horror movie and then yeah,
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period piece and then a Java. Yeah, that's gonna be fun.
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It's gonna be fun and divisive. Yeah.
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OK, OK. Second movie.
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Another movie that we are also gonna cover on the show at some
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point sooner than later. Really Hostile Part 3.
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Man, yeah, you're right. They should break up.
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Yeah. Because he's in a relationship
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with his fiance that cheated on him or something, right?
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She cheated on him. Yeah, there's just.
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And then they cheat on her or they there's a lot of like
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cheating adultery going on in this.
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The one, the one friend is trying to get with the fiance
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and it's kind of ambiguous and there's cheating stuff in the
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past, which is why it's partially ambiguous.
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And then there's also a lot of people that are very shitty to
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the guy with a cane. That.
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Has nothing to do with needing to break.
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He needs to break up with his friend group.
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Wait, just really? You know what?
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I know that The Hangover inspired them going to LA or not
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LA Las Vegas in that movie, but I'm thinking of what?
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The Hangover? Yeah.
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Because Ed Helm's wife cheated on him, I think.
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Yeah, no. So I was thinking at the end
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because like I said the one best friend was really into the
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fiance and he did the whole thing to kill him off so that
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way he could be with the fiance. And it's been a minute since we
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watched it so I don't know if I'm remembering correctly.
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I do think that maybe there was like some cheating issues in the
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past mentioned so I'm not 100% sure about that.
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Well the but either way at the end they need to break up
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because I guess what the fiance is not really dead.
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That's true though, yeah. Yeah.
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OK, good call. My third movie, yes.
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Oh, I didn't tell you any of the statistics.
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About how we just talked. About it December 27th, 2011.
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That shit went straight to DVD. Did you say anything about your
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next? Yeah, OK.
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He went straight to DVD, so I don't have a budget or a
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worldwide gross. Yeah, but it's low.
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Yeah. I make up a majority.
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I'm a majority shareholder. I bought some Part 3.
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This is true. It has an IMP score of 4.6 out
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of 10, which I was pleasantly surprised, Yeah.
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You know me too. Honestly, I thought it would be
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lower. It has this audience.
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I think some people like it. I need to give another. 50% of
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this podcast is very affirmatively its audience.
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I always think, and I'm always wrong because it's a different
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movie, that it's the kid from Sandlot that's in that, but it's
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that's dark ride that he's that has a Sandlot kid I.
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Don't remember. OK.
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I don't remember which Sandlot kid.
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OK, just. Trust her.
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The catcher. The chubby, freckled kid.
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Speaking of The Sandlot, Wendy Peppercorn herself, Marley
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Shelton, is going to be at Scarefest that was just
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announced this weekend. Fuck yeah.
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And it ties in to my third film from 2011.
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Screen 4. So who's?
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Oh. Cuz Charlie thinks that he's
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dating Jill secretly and then she's step step step half step.
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Yeah. So Charlie needs to break up
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with Jill. And this is Mary Shelton
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telling. Dewey, Marley, Shelton.
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Marley Marley Shelton telling Dewey you should break up with
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GAIL and get my lemon. Squares.
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Eat my lemon squares and be daddy to little tiny wallows,
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yeah? He won't have to start a band if
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he has you in his life. Wallows won't have to be.
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So that released April 15th, 2011.
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It had a budget of 40 million because Scream brings in the
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money. Sure does.
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It made a worldwide gross of 97,000,000 Nice and it has an
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IMDb score of 6.2 out of 10. Good that that's a good one.
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So there's only two tag lines. OK.
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Which I feel like we ran into this with Freaky as well, like
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Christopher Landon's, like, I'm going to say I'm a piece.
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This is what it is. Yeah, probably.
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OK, first one, discover how the activity began.
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It makes sense, but it also kind of sounds a little bit
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suggestive of like foreplay. Maybe he's talking about the sex
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tape. We've got to have have
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discussion about that too. Yeah.
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And then the second one, it runs in the family.
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I like that. One that's really good.
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That's not the poster one. They're both on the poster.
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OK, they're they're both on the poster, but they're far enough
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away and they don't sound connected.
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Yeah. So I put them as separate ones.
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OK, that's fair. OK, I've got a few fun facts.
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Not a ton, just a smidgen. A sprinkle, if you will.
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I can do with that. So this movie actually set a new
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record for a midnight opening for horror at the time, $8
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million for its midnight opening.
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Holy. Shit, 8,000,000 for just one
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night. Yep, and it had the highest
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single day opening of for horror at the time in the US at 26.2
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million. Shit.
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And it was the second best opening day for 2011, beat only
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by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2.
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Damn that's crazy that I gave it like a run.
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For it's money. So 2011 Harry Potter Paranormal
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Activity. What a weird fucking year, you
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all. That's crazy, man.
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That's some like, that's the magic you get when you get like
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a straight up horror franchise, like rolling.
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You know, we don't have one of those going right now.
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And this one doesn't, as far as I know, have a legacy tinged by
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transphobia from its creator. Which one are you talking about?
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Harry Potter. Oh.
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Yeah, sorry, I thought you were talking about like another
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horror movie. It's like the the post I saw
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online that says Harry Potter belongs to us, the fans now.
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People claim that shit, man. Yeah, yeah.
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We do not give it to She who shall not be named.
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You can't. Take away like she's already a
18:08
billionaire, so whatever man, you know you can't take that
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away. So just take the property and
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just make it your own. Yeah, me calling her out for
18:14
being a shitty turf isn't going to make her any less of a
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billionaire. Yeah, you're not going to her
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financially by protesting this series.
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Yeah, just to encourage. Just embrace it.
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Yeah, I'm gonna be like, hey, Harry Potter meant a lot to me
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as a child, but I also fucked JK Rowling and her shitty, bigoted
18:30
opinions. Yeah, I mean, if you feel more
18:33
comfortable just straight up protesting, that's cool too
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though, OK. Let's see, where am I at?
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So that yeah, this is a record-breaking movie.
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There's a reason that this, this is the franchise that Bill Blum
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House, you know? I mean, I remember the hype from
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that. I remember when this came out I
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was insane. So principal photography took
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place from June 6th, 2011 to August 5th, 2011.
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And if you were hearing that correctly and wondering if I
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wrote this down correctly, I did.
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I triple checked myself. It did, in fact, finish filming
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less than 2 1/2 months before its premiere.
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That's not too uncommon, but especially something like this,
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I don't think it requires too much.
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Probably not, I just am very stressed at the timeline.
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Yeah, that, I mean that's probably pretty stressful to
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work on. So I wrote this down because I
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thought it was interesting but there was no citation for it so
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who knows if it's true or not but I just thought it was fun.
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I love it when an article tells me what a film was filmed under,
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like its name. Yeah, this the whatever the
19:39
temporary title. Yeah, and this one makes no
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fucking sense, which is why I wrote it down even though it's
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not confirmed. OK.
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Sports camp. No, that's genius because that's
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the whole point is to throw people off.
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That way they don't go investigating and it doesn't
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leak out. I feel like usually it at least
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kind of makes sense in hindsight that this not at all.
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No, when you're doing a fucking paranormal activity in the
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height of its popularity, you need to keep that under wraps.
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Maybe, maybe they do the same thing in their heads as us,
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where instead of Kobe they say Toby also.
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Yeah, Toby. Kobe Sports.
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Make that connection, connect the Dutch people, people say.
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So they had a couple more of their viral marketing campaigns,
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as is their want to do. Yes.
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One of them I couldn't find much information on.
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I don't know. It was an app called Paranormal
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Activity 3 Demon Summoner. It's not very easy to look up
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because when you look that up you just get a lot of articles
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on Toby, which is how I learned that.
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Really. Are there actual things online
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where you like? Here's how you summon Toby.
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Can you? Can we actually get a Toby?
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No, No. It's more of felt like the demon
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history. Of oh, I thought it was like, it
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was like, go get your own Toby, folks.
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No, and I would have read up more on this, but it's just a
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little history on our personal lives.
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It's been wild and super busy and you have to make time where
21:10
you can. And I was getting all of this
21:12
information in the car and I get car sick real badly so I
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couldn't read much more than what I did.
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That's, yeah, that's fine. Yeah.
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And then finally they did a Tweet Your Scream campaign.
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Tweet your scream. Yes, which you could enter.
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They had like a pool of cities where they could do an early
21:32
premiere of the movie on October 18th and the top 20 to get their
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city retweeted. We're going to get that early
21:41
premiere. That's cool.
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And I know one of them was Melbourne, so it was like
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international. Damn.
21:46
Yeah. Man I like the 1 from 2.
21:50
Demand it. Demand it.
21:53
Waiting on Satan? Yep.
21:55
Or Satan. Satan's done waiting.
21:57
Satan's done waiting. That's Hellraiser, yeah.
22:01
OK, Yeah, that's it for my fun facts.
22:03
Which means it's time for the good, bad, ugly and absurd.
22:08
Travis, please kick us off. OK, I like that I am merging
22:13
these words together. I can't wait to see what the
22:16
bizarre chapter titles we get are.
22:19
OK, so good. I I think that origin stories
22:26
can go badly, so more often than nuts, but I think that they did
22:33
a good job pulling off the origin story.
22:35
I like how they tied it back to Katie, but it wasn't about
22:40
Katie. Like she's just kind of like a
22:43
unfortunate victim of Chrissy having this relationship with
22:48
Toby. And I do love also because it
22:50
ties back to when all of this is first happening.
22:54
And I want to say it's, is it in the second one or in the first
22:59
one, But where Katie and Christy are talking and Katie is like
23:03
there was a period of time where you just didn't talk to anyone.
23:06
Yeah. I like that we're seeing that.
23:09
Yeah, it's cool. Like, you know, it was this was
23:11
kind of interesting to explore to see because you knew that
23:15
there was a history from the past movie.
23:17
So, you know, we get like some more Toby and Toby is kind of
23:21
fun to watch, you know, be able to scamp and just like do some
23:25
shit around the house. I think that this movie has
23:28
probably, I wouldn't say the best screen scary moments in the
23:33
series because I think that probably still belongs to the
23:35
first one. Because the first one, I
23:38
remember that one where, like, she sleepwalks outside.
23:40
Yeah. And then he's out there trying
23:42
to wake her up. And then everything, like, all
23:44
of the lights in the house turn on or something.
23:46
And then he goes up to his room and like the TV static.
23:48
She's blaring. That's fucking scary, yes, but
23:51
this movie had the moment with the little ghost sheet and that
23:56
fucking this freaky as hell. That what always gets me is
24:00
Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary's so scary too.
24:03
Oh. My God, Candyman.
24:05
Yes. I'm pretty sure I've talked
24:06
about this on the show before, but the first time I saw
24:09
Candyman I couldn't be in a bathroom with the lights off.
24:15
I still can't be in a bathroom with the lights off.
24:16
No, actually. Did you ever do it though?
24:18
Did you ever play the game? I think we did it.
24:22
I think my older sister and me, I did it one time after watching
24:26
the movie Candyman. Oh yeah and I think I was
24:32
paranoid for like a month cuz I was like, he is playing the long
24:37
game. He's gonna wait until I finally
24:40
let my guard down. Tony Todd, he he doesn't like to
24:44
just bang him out. Now I.
24:48
He's probably still litigating his B claws.
24:51
Yeah, I did Candy, man. I also did Bloody Mary as a kid
24:56
too. And that like that's such a
24:58
relatable thing that they did in this movie because like
25:00
everybody did that. Especially like around that
25:02
time. I don't know if it's a thing
25:03
anymore. When?
25:04
You have like the non typical babysitter with you.
25:07
Like, yeah, Randy. And he, yeah, he's babysitter,
25:10
but he's also your quasi stepdad's friend and the goofy
25:15
guy that is just sometimes in your house.
25:17
Just Randy. Yeah, he's just Randy.
25:19
So that felt so real to me. Well, not only that, but that's
25:24
such a great setup to have Toby actually enter and do some shit.
25:29
Like it actually makes Bloody Mary real, yes.
25:32
And like that's just so fucking scary.
25:36
And to be fair though, that did piss me off back when this
25:41
released. And the only reason they pissed
25:43
me off is because I remember the trailers.
25:46
They the thing about paranormal activities, they did fake
25:49
trailers all the time. Spoiler for when I do the
25:52
reviews later but that was so many people were pissed that
25:56
the. Trailer because it's so
25:57
different than there was this one scene and it was a Bloody
26:00
Mary scene that I was so excited to see play out because they do
26:04
Bloody Mary and it's it's Christy and Katie and they're
26:09
doing it together and they do Bloody Mary.
26:11
And then there's actually like something appears in there's
26:13
like a shadowy fit. I figure in the bathroom.
26:16
It's in like the black and white camera too.
26:19
And we don't get that in the movie.
26:20
And then like you like go into that movie expecting that and
26:23
then don't see it. No, it pisses you off.
26:26
So that's part of my bad. But we're still talking about
26:28
good here. But yeah, like it's a good
26:32
movie. They did a good job delivering
26:33
the scares and good origin story.
26:36
I do like how the origin story, it makes sense from what we
26:40
heard from the first two movies I love and I try to treat movies
26:45
as their own thing. But with a franchise, it is also
26:48
kind of hard not to look at other movies in the franchise.
26:52
And I think in this one, it's actually in its favor because
26:55
that first movie was just very much like a here's kind of what
27:01
happens, do your thing because. And they just, they made this
27:07
movie happen, you know, and then it became such a big thing.
27:11
They do the 2nd movie, they tie it so well into the first one,
27:14
which we knew it was going to happen because we knew the dates
27:17
and everything, but still like seeing how it ended.
27:19
Oh man, we get the resolution of Katie.
27:22
'S yeah, she just shows up at the house after the fact.
27:24
That's where she went to after killing.
27:27
Everybody, we, we'd gotten more information along the way.
27:31
And then to see this origin story of like how it actually
27:34
played out. And it's funny because we call
27:37
it an origin story. And we do see a little bit of
27:40
the ritual, which by the way, there was a Reddit post that
27:43
said hereditary is just a knock off of Paranormal Activity 3.
27:48
And it's not wrong. Interesting.
27:52
I could see it, yeah. But we have this origin story,
27:56
but we don't actually really see the deal with the devil that
27:58
goes down, you know? So I think that's kind of fun.
28:02
Also, I think that the little kids, I didn't get much
28:06
information with Christopher Landon.
28:08
I feel like he probably wrote out more stuff with the script,
28:11
but I think the way that the little kids talk talk to each
28:16
other makes sense for children and especially sisters that
28:20
close in age. And I like that they still seem
28:23
very different and their personalities still match how
28:26
they seem when they're older. And I especially like something
28:32
about Christy just like really stands out to me.
28:35
Just the she's got, she reminds me of my older sister's
28:40
daughter. Like they're very kind of
28:42
crying. Yep.
28:43
Yeah. Like that is a very like that is
28:47
a type of child that age, you know, and it just it feels very
28:51
authentic, which though she is actually a small child.
28:54
Yeah, no. But you.
28:55
Know acting. It's a whole other thing, yeah.
28:58
Yes, and it and it is not easy for children actors to like
29:03
you're going to come in and you're going to act, but you
29:05
also need to still be a kid. And that's like, well, that's
29:08
kind of weird. But yeah, so I just, I really
29:11
like it. And I really love how much
29:14
Dennis, Dennis, how much he loves this family that has
29:22
welcomed him in. I like that we get that right
29:24
from the bat. And I like that their
29:27
dissolution isn't like, you believe in this stuff and I
29:30
don't believe in this stuff. You're crazy.
29:32
You're not instead of that it's hey, you are not spending time
29:38
with me or the girls like that is part of her problem.
29:42
Part of it she's also like, you're crazy though towards the
29:44
end there. Part of it I think, is she's
29:46
upset that he's like egging on her child.
29:49
She blames she blames him for Katie storming into the room,
29:54
saying Toby pulled my hair. She said you did this.
29:57
So, like, no, Toby. Toby.
30:01
Did Toby. Come on.
30:03
Don't you see him? He's right there.
30:05
Got Toby on his belly. He's there.
30:07
Don't call. Him fat.
30:08
Yeah, don't call him fat. Yeah, don't sit.
30:09
In his chair. That's so funny that he's like
30:12
that. OK, OK.
30:14
Now for your bad Beyond the trailer.
30:17
Yeah, beyond the trailer, this wasn't like a persistent thing
30:22
because you were right. Like they did the acting so well
30:24
with some of that stuff. But I think like at the
30:27
beginning there was some like sometimes these movies don't
30:31
have authentic dialogue. Like there's supposed to be like
30:34
home videos, but like this shit isn't happening like at a home,
30:38
you know, like party or whatever.
30:40
I think it was mostly the characters from the like the
30:42
first two. Whenever they Chrissy grown up,
30:46
whenever she was like not acting super well in that scene.
30:50
I just wasn't believing. It I was thrown off for a
30:53
minute. So I was like, who are these
30:54
ladies? Yeah.
30:55
Well, I knew it was Katie, but I didn't know.
30:57
I was like, oh, right, Christy, right.
30:59
We're we're. Starting move.
31:00
What are you talking about? Yeah I I always forget that.
31:04
Starts off with like some paranormal activity too.
31:06
Shit. Can I add one more thing to my
31:08
good? Sure.
31:09
No, Mika. No, Mika, I'm kind of sad
31:13
though. Does mean even though he sucks,
31:15
he's like the fun kind of He sucks, that's true.
31:18
Yeah, He's fun to watch. Reality TV villain?
31:21
Kind of. Yeah, exactly.
31:23
Yeah, I guess other than that, like, I don't know, like can't
31:27
really say too much else bad about it.
31:30
I think my main gripe and I don't need it to be a jump
31:33
scare, I'm in it. I it just, it felt like it flew
31:38
by. It's a short movie.
31:40
It is a short movie, but it feels like we really don't see a
31:44
ton of things happen. Not in a way where it feels like
31:47
the movie is dragging on, but it is just a little bit weird.
31:53
I know what you mean, you're right.
31:55
I feel like some of the other ones I feel like you get more
31:59
like night blank, like night one night 2 like in the other
32:03
movies. This one right here.
32:04
I think more shit happens in a single night than it.
32:08
Does. And maybe maybe that's why it
32:10
feels like that, because we're not getting as many of those new
32:13
day cards. Yeah, like in.
32:15
Our new night cards. Rather in the other movies I
32:17
feel like it has a slower build up and then in this one right
32:21
here, like Toby's out the gate being like a little stinker.
32:24
Yeah. He's just out there.
32:26
Yeah, he's just out there like toying with them.
32:28
Yeah, I guess, OK. Thank you for working this
32:31
through with me because I do. Now that you're saying that, I
32:34
do think that maybe it would feel more tense, but like
32:38
probably artificially to be like night one, night two night.
32:41
Three, it works too. Like, yeah, you take that dial
32:44
and you just slowly you're building the tension and then
32:47
you go for the big release at the end rather than like our
32:50
end. Whoa.
32:52
And just dialing all the. Way because there's fewer
32:54
moments to ignore throughout because what gets Julie like
32:58
she's just like, this is she's like, you're not used to kids.
33:01
Kids are fucking weird. And then she goes to the kitchen
33:05
and all of her shit falls from the ceiling.
33:07
She's like mom. Yeah, that's true.
33:12
So OK, OK, I guess that's it for bad.
33:15
But you're ugly. That's kind of shitty that the
33:18
babysitter didn't tell them anything that went on, but maybe
33:21
she was embarrassed to admit that she thought that there was
33:24
a ghost around there. But there's also the cameras.
33:27
There's also the cameras, maybe. Yeah, she doesn't.
33:29
It's. Not like she tried to lie about
33:31
anything. He's just like, I gotta go.
33:34
For a second I thought that she she, but like she didn't know
33:36
some. But she does have like a whole
33:38
scene where she like, jumps, scares the camera.
33:41
Yeah. But I was just imagining myself
33:43
like, he's got it on that little like swiveling fan thing.
33:45
Like if you just like put like a little bit of like foilage, like
33:49
it's like a stick of like a branch with like a little bit of
33:52
leaves on it to try and like blend it into the house like
33:56
this giant S camera, but he put like a twig on top of it.
33:59
Top of a a potted plant. Yeah, like it's in the ficus,
34:05
but the actual oscillation part is above the top.
34:08
It's like so loud because it's like such an old camera from the
34:11
apes. Yeah, OK.
34:15
But no, no, I mean, that's like the only thing I could think of
34:17
ugly wise. Mine is that Grandma Lois, One,
34:21
fully known that she's gonna kill Dennis.
34:25
And two, sitting there telling Julie like, hey, I think he's a
34:30
Leech. I think that you're too good for
34:34
him. You're rich and hot.
34:36
And what does he do? Nothing.
34:39
Oh, he shoots wedding videos. First of all.
34:42
That's a lot. That's really hard.
34:43
Fucking it is, and it pays pretty well so they are
34:46
expensive. But yeah, just implying that
34:50
he's using her as a sugar Mama is.
34:54
We don't have any evidence of that.
34:56
It's just her trying to poison the well.
34:58
And it makes me sad because he actually seems to genuinely care
35:02
about the girls. She, I think she might have been
35:04
trying to plant a seed because like remember the demon feeds
35:08
off of negativity and I think she was trying to do that to try
35:11
and like. Y'all are too happy.
35:13
Yeah, like, come on, he's not that great.
35:15
What about Mika? You know he'll grow into a shit
35:19
one day. Mika's just a child at this
35:22
point. Yeah, I'm uncomfortable with
35:24
where this is going, Chavis. OK, yeah, I didn't.
35:32
Perfect for Katie. Absurd.
35:37
Boy. I got 2 written down.
35:39
OK, the first one is Toby shoulder checks, Katie, I go.
35:45
They're up there playing. In the bedroom.
35:48
And she's just running just sham shoulder checks here.
35:52
And the other one, I had one written down here, but I'm gonna
35:57
not say it anymore because it was just like the rule from our
36:01
game. Like the parents weren't waking
36:03
up during all that shit, which is absurd.
36:07
But I was thinking about how the house that they bought would
36:12
play out as a House Hunters episode because they definitely
36:15
saw this. Like this is a weird space
36:17
upstairs. And like that realtor would
36:19
probably be like, Oh yeah, you can totally use it as a another
36:22
bedroom for the children. It would be great.
36:24
Yeah, it was like loft space for the children.
36:27
Yeah. Interesting.
36:28
Yeah, but the kids don't have any privacy.
36:30
Like they just have like a little upstairs area and.
36:34
You know, see, you're saying that about house hunters.
36:36
My house hunters had in cannon happening was that they were
36:40
told that fireplace in the kitchen would need like several
36:44
$1000 worth of work to be functional.
36:46
So that's why they just have kids toys shoved in there.
36:49
Oh man. That's such a weird place to
36:50
shove kids toys. OK, what's your absurd?
36:53
My absurd is OK, so we got the tiny room in the loft, right?
36:58
And Toby goes in there and fucks shit up and he scribbles on the
37:01
ceiling. All makes sense.
37:03
Perfectly logical for a demon. It's even got like the chaotic
37:05
scribbling of a demon because I don't know what a demon's fine
37:08
mortar coordination looks like. Who knows?
37:10
They're non corporeal. Then at one point lights are
37:16
flickering, winds are blowing, sheets are coming off a Katie's
37:21
bed because Toby likes Christie, and the light bright comes on in
37:26
the corner and it's got a perfectly done symbol.
37:31
Over Toby. Yeah, that's so funny.
37:34
It's. Like when did Toby do that?
37:37
Like was he going red, green, orange, blue, red, green,
37:42
orange, blue? He's.
37:44
Bored man. I can't jokingly calling this
37:46
the Deathly Hallows symbol last night because it's so close to
37:49
it, but knowing that this came out the same year is definitely
37:52
there's no way that's a quint. I feel like they had because
37:54
they definitely shot at the same year too.
37:56
So like they're like, that's totally coming out around that
37:58
time. Interesting.
38:00
OK. So are we ready to rate?
38:03
Yes. All right.
38:04
I agree with people. I think this is one of the
38:08
stronger Paranormal Activity movies.
38:10
I think I'd give it an 8 1/2. I'm gonna give it a nine.
38:15
Nine, OK. Because I just, I think it's
38:18
really, it's not just that it's really well done, but it's a
38:21
really well done origin story, which is hard to do without
38:25
retconning a bunch of shit. Especially having a hinge on two
38:28
child actors, which is really tough.
38:30
And they do so well and the chemistry with the family is
38:33
great. And you know, we talked about
38:36
they they didn't do as intensively like night whatever
38:40
card. And that kind of helps it move
38:43
quicker. So yeah, then then we have like
38:46
less moments where it feels like, oh, night 2 is just
38:49
sleeping. Yeah, there's less of that in
38:52
this movie. Yeah.
38:52
I don't think that there was a single night where nothing
38:54
happened. Yeah.
38:56
And, and I think that's part of the key is that we don't get
38:59
those false moments anymore. So I think it's really solid and
39:02
I think our starting score of 8.75 is very well earned.
39:05
I like it. Yeah, that's a good place for
39:07
it. OK.
39:08
Are we ready? We're ready.
39:10
All right, so we start off with paranormal activity too.
39:15
Yeah, which? Apparently a lot of people
39:18
edited a Paranormal Activity 3 poster off of Paranormal
39:22
Activity 2. Images that is really confusing.
39:26
I don't understand. I don't get it.
39:27
Yeah, it starts off with the dose.
39:29
You get the dad there, they're recording the baby room like.
39:33
A nursery, is that the word? Yeah, that's the word.
39:35
I didn't know it, so I was really used to you.
39:41
The baby space. I find it best when you don't
39:43
know the word to just like say the definition.
39:46
People will understand what you mean.
39:47
What was it that you asked me last week?
39:50
What is the fan theory? But it's based in real life.
39:55
Yep, conspiracy theory is very just.
39:57
Looking for people? It's OK because later I said
40:00
what is it when it's satire about Jesus?
40:02
Yep, that's sacrilegious. So know your strengths, people.
40:07
All right? So yeah, it's a little bit of
40:09
that. They're just going around the
40:10
house, and then we get Katie stopping by and dropping off
40:13
some old VHS tapes from Grandma's house.
40:16
Yep. Yeah, she she compliments the
40:19
Jamaica blue. Glad that she went with that
40:21
instead of the green. Yeah.
40:23
So she's got some tapes. She's got some boxes of stuff
40:26
that she wants to store in their basement while she moves,
40:28
because I think the red flags are even flying now.
40:30
We've seen the size of Mika's house, people.
40:33
She could store these couple of boxes there, but Mika's?
40:37
Yeah, jerk. It's not that big of a house, is
40:39
it? It's a condo, isn't it?
40:41
I didn't think it was. A huge house that she can have
40:45
her boxes. Yeah, stuff there.
40:46
Yeah, she can move in there. I think really realistically, I
40:49
think because you can't bring that shit here.
40:52
Yeah, fuck off. Red flags.
40:53
That's when she gets pissed off. When she rolls into the driveway
40:57
and he's got a camcorder. It's like, babe, I got so many
40:59
tapes already. And so, yeah, one of her boxes
41:05
is tapes from Grandma Lois and Chris.
41:08
She's like, I never get anything.
41:11
So now you get these tapes, you get.
41:13
To keep them. And she's like, I don't even
41:14
remember what's on these. Cut to August 2. 1006.
41:20
Yes, after the events of Paranormal Activity 2, they are
41:25
assessing the damage from Katie's attack.
41:28
Yeah, they're document. No, it's not after Katie's
41:31
attack, it's when it's happening simultaneously with it.
41:34
Oh yeah, cuz they're having their own hauntings happening.
41:37
Yeah. They think somebody broke in.
41:39
That's the part right there. Yeah, they think somebody broke
41:41
in. They're trying to avoid their
41:43
dog getting cut on glass. The dog who goes on to live
41:45
happily ever after is thank you. Christopher Landon.
41:48
Christopher Landon for. Confirming for us.
41:52
He they're documenting to make sure nothing's missing or
41:55
damaged for insurance purposes, and the only thing missing was
41:58
the box of tapes in the. Basement.
42:00
Interesting thing to have that would be terrifying if you came
42:02
home and just tape home. Tapes are stolen.
42:07
Yeah, it's, well, it's kind of like in the first one, remember
42:09
where they had shit happen and all that was missing was that
42:12
photo of Katie and Christine was up in the attic.
42:15
It's fucking creepy. Yeah, that's, that's creepier
42:18
than like something valuable, like something monetarily
42:21
valuable being stolen. Yeah, something with sentimental
42:23
stuff. You're like, this is personal.
42:25
Yeah, it's personal and it seems like it has purpose.
42:28
Too. Yes, it's invasive in a million
42:32
more ways. Yeah, exactly.
42:34
OK, so we cut back to 1988, September 3rd.
42:39
It is the birthday of Katie. She is turning 8 years old.
42:43
I I counted the candles, so I wasn't.
42:47
Wondering what you were counting.
42:48
And I was like, did she mention her age in one of the movies and
42:51
you were doing the math? No, she's 8.
42:53
And I was like, OK, I was like, I'll just take your word for it.
42:58
Hey, she's 8 years old, OK, I. Didn't even look at the birthday
43:01
cake. We, this is what we do on this
43:04
show. We do the deep dive shit.
43:06
She is 8 years old. I counted the candles.
43:07
People, you are welcome. Everybody wanted to know, so
43:11
yeah, she's just doing normal birthday shit.
43:13
We get little head shots of or talking heads of the family
43:19
members of grandma. Grandma Lois inspires Phyllis
43:23
Juan's mom at her wedding. Yeah, happy birthday to you so
43:28
bad. That's why she kills people,
43:29
because she was. She's like, I need that erase
43:31
from that tape. I got to kill him to.
43:33
Sleep. My God, that's so cringy.
43:36
And he Dennis? Dennis.
43:38
He's just all like, hey, thank you for loving me and accepting
43:43
me into this family. Oh, it's.
43:45
So it warms my heart. They heard the people back
43:51
whenever the first one came out. They're like, we can't have
43:53
another Miko. We can't be the franchise with
43:55
shitty boyfriends. We need a We need a functional
43:59
family for most of the movies. Any of this will be a happy home
44:03
for a minute. Here gotcha.
44:04
I mean, in in Part 2 they're they get along well enough, but
44:09
they're mostly detached from each other.
44:11
Yeah. And I think that they're.
44:12
And Christy gets possessed like halfway through so.
44:14
Yeah, yeah. So we get some shots of Christy.
44:19
She is hiding underneath one of the tables talking to nobody.
44:22
No, she's hiding under trampoline.
44:24
Trampoline, OH. Yeah, yeah, cuz she's cuz kids
44:26
are weird. That's.
44:28
True and. That's the type of thing kids
44:29
do. So not just nobody though, it's
44:32
a Toby nobody. Yeah, Toby.
44:34
Toby, yeah. That's that's what Toby's short
44:37
for, yeah. Toby So yeah, that's that.
44:42
Like we get Christy just like, or no, Katie just beating the
44:45
shit off a pinata and everybody's like, hey, chill.
44:48
Just take it easy, Katie, hey. Julie, I know they've been
44:52
struggling without their their birth father.
44:55
Maybe you should get Katie some therapy.
44:59
It's not that great. It kind of really upset some of
45:01
the children there. And we get some like slice of
45:04
life footage. We see Christy with a loose
45:07
tooth. Yeah.
45:09
We. Talking about some Toby.
45:12
Yeah, she's well, cuz she gets ice cream cuz loose tooth,
45:15
that's what you get. Yeah.
45:16
And then she says she needs a bowl for Toby, and Katie says
45:19
imaginary friends are for stupid babies and you're a stupid baby,
45:22
dude. You know what this would have
45:25
been primed for a tooth fairy scene.
45:27
Oh man. Where she hides it under the
45:30
pillow and the pillow moves and the tooth disappears and the
45:33
parents are like, I don't remember taking the tooth.
45:36
Yeah, that would have been. They should have done that.
45:39
Missed opportunity. Yeah, for sure.
45:41
So that doesn't happen though. Yeah, you know what does happen?
45:45
We have picture day. Yep, picture day.
45:47
And then Dennis is doing some editing.
45:50
We argued about this at first because it was like, he's
45:53
editing wedding footage and you were like, no, he's not editing
45:58
anything. This is a home video, no?
46:02
No shit. I was confused for a second
46:04
because I saw his face and then we cut to a wedding and I
46:07
thought it was their wedding. I was like, is that supposed to
46:09
be him? Because it's another dude and
46:11
he's got a mullet and that doesn't look like Dennis
46:13
anymore. But the woman kind of looked
46:15
like Julie, so I thought, maybe, I don't know.
46:19
I know that's not what it is. Yeah, but he's editing and then
46:22
he hears the sound upstairs and it's this creepy fucking teddy
46:25
bear that fell over and he's talking and making noise.
46:28
Yeah, that is creepy. It kind of looks like the
46:30
Shoney's teddy bear. Yeah, it does look a little bit,
46:32
yeah. We also Speaking of Shoney's, we
46:39
were listening to a true crime podcast that is the post is
46:45
Australian. I'm not sure if the rest of
46:47
their team is or not, but I would assume so early days they
46:51
covered mostly Australian cases that they were covering a case
46:56
in Ohio and they like referred to they're like this man
47:00
stumbled into a small diner called Shoney's.
47:03
I was like national franchise Shoney's.
47:07
Aw man, I love me some fucking Shoney's.
47:10
As a kid I used to go to that buffet.
47:11
Woke me up on all kinds of. Food.
47:13
I wonder if it's still around. The one in my hometown is gone
47:17
and I thought that would be standing long after the end of
47:20
the entire earth. So.
47:21
It's probably shitty now if it is around.
47:24
Still. The Shoney's was the shit back
47:25
in the. Day.
47:26
Yeah, that's where we do like birthday buffets, yeah.
47:29
It's. Awesome, yeah.
47:31
So OK, yeah. So yeah, yeah, he's looking for
47:36
Julian. He found some teddy bears.
47:38
So now we see some of the bedroom shit.
47:41
The little door is open in the bedroom.
47:44
Yeah, it got a tiny door. Yeah, and they got a little tiny
47:46
closet, which is kind of nice for the girls to put their toys,
47:50
and that's very convenient for children.
47:51
I still think it's funny though that the realtor probably sold
47:54
that as and here's your closet. Your walk in closet.
47:57
If you're a child, you can do it at that size.
48:01
That's why they suggest like perfect room for the girl.
48:04
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
48:05
But they're Christy's in there and Dennis is trying to talk to
48:10
her and yeah, that's. Yeah, Dennis is like up there
48:16
trying to, yeah, talk to Christy, right?
48:19
Yes, yeah, yeah. And now we get some sexy time.
48:24
Yeah, so it cuts to the bedroom first.
48:26
Julia's like Dennis don't record this, this is illegal.
48:30
And Dennis is recording her smoking marijuana.
48:34
Yeah, you know, this is kind of funny cuz I remember in the
48:37
first, God damn it, Jesse dropping a clipboard again.
48:43
I thought it was really interesting because in the first
48:45
movie, Mika's trying so hard to get Katie to have sex on camera.
48:49
And then the first time Dennis tried it, she's like, fuck yeah,
48:51
let's do it. I'm hot, baby.
48:53
Yeah, I was gonna say he was smart and waited till she was at
48:56
the peak of her high and you could tell she was starting to
48:58
question it because it was taking him too long to get
49:00
ready. And she's like, you need to do
49:02
this before I change my mind. And here's what we need to talk
49:05
about with this scene is they're getting ready to do it.
49:07
They're crawling on the bed and they're under Roos.
49:11
And I don't mean to be a pervert, but I'm looking for the
49:15
realism of this. Seen people.
49:16
Where is his boner? He was soft.
49:20
Yeah. Like that's not going to be the
49:23
reality. Because they were This is APG 13
49:26
movie, but in this moment. OK, he could be camera shy, but
49:31
he's the one that suggested. It.
49:32
So I don't know. I get it, a fluffer is a
49:36
professional position. He can sell fluff off camera.
49:42
Yeah, like a whole new production, you know, in the in
49:45
the skin flick here. So, you know, you gotta do, you
49:48
gotta wear many hats. Yeah, you gotta be the director,
49:52
the producer, the actor and the fluffer.
49:55
Just imagine him in the corner, just like looking at the corner.
49:58
Just like, hold on, honey. She's just like, oh God, what
50:05
have I done? Man, that would be sad.
50:09
Anyway, they don't get to do it because there's an earthquake.
50:11
Yeah, bomber that. That sucks for them and they run
50:16
out and then the next day he's reviewing the footage and as
50:20
he's reviewing the footage, Randy walks in and.
50:23
He's like, oh, you guys made a sex tape?
50:25
I like how he actually admits it.
50:28
Like the guy's like, oh, is that a sex tape?
50:30
He's like, yeah, but don't worry because we didn't get to do
50:32
anything because there was an earthquake and it fucking sucks.
50:36
Randy's like you're way too excited about the fact that your
50:38
sex tape got interrupted. Yeah, right.
50:40
But it is actually Really creepy because when the earthquake was
50:44
happening, dust fell from the ceiling and it fell onto a
50:47
figure and you could see Toby's shoulder.
50:49
I. Like that, we get an outline of
50:51
Toby here. Yeah, we get to get a preview.
50:53
So Dennis shows tries to show Julie the video and I wrote
50:57
Jules jazz lights. Jazz lights, Yeah.
51:01
So Dennis is freaked out now, and he's going to set up cameras
51:04
all through the house, as is this.
51:06
Is actually Randy's suggestion. He's like, you know, yeah, maybe
51:10
you can do this. Yeah, so he he puts it in the
51:13
girls room and he puts one in the living room and it's a
51:16
little. Talk with Katie about it.
51:17
She's asking questions, she's curious.
51:20
She's like, how long does a tape last?
51:22
And it's like about six hours. She's like, so you have to
51:24
change it every six hours. And I like that they acknowledge
51:28
it and then it doesn't have to be a thing in the movie.
51:31
Although I would love like just cutting between the footage and
51:36
one of the rooms is just blank because it's out of town.
51:39
That would have been. I would love that as just like a
51:42
little moment for your laugh. Well.
51:43
I think you could have used that for some good visual scary
51:47
storytelling there too. It could have been played well.
51:50
Yeah, that was an opportunity too.
51:52
And you mentioned that it reminds you of I'm on
51:54
observation duty. Yeah, it does.
51:56
And that would be like when there's a camera malfunction or
52:00
one of the cameras goes missing. Yeah, exactly.
52:02
Yeah. Boy, that's creepy.
52:05
So yeah, he's got all the cameras set up and we're rolling
52:09
in and we got this shit going now.
52:11
So night one, November 10th, 1988.
52:14
Yeah, we get the little buzz of Toby's presents here.
52:18
Yeah, and part of what Dennis is doing, because he says it's
52:21
weird how many sounds this house is making because it's a new
52:24
house. And that's why I like living in
52:26
an old house because it probably is haunted.
52:28
But any sounds I hear at night and just be like, it's an old
52:31
house. Yeah, that's just what I tell
52:32
myself all the time. It's easy because you Peace of
52:35
Mind. So the buzz wakes Christie up
52:38
and she runs downstairs and she gets up on the kitchen table and
52:42
she just starts talking to him, which is a weird place to go for
52:45
a conversation. No, no, this is this is not the
52:47
table scene. This is the one where she walks
52:49
towards the corner and she's just saying and she's talking
52:53
about Dennis because I think Toby is already like over this
52:57
fucking shit with yeah, it's night one.
52:59
And he's like, what is this bullshit, this shit?
53:01
And because you just hear her go, yeah, no, it's nice, yeah,
53:06
yeah. And then she goes back to bed.
53:09
Man, I wanna know what Toby says.
53:10
I'd like to know. Yeah, I wanna know what she
53:14
hears. Is it the voice of God directly
53:17
in her head? Yeah.
53:19
What is happening? I'm curious.
53:22
So next day Dennis talks with Christy about what she was
53:27
talking with Toby about. He has the same questions we
53:29
have. Yeah, and she says that Dennis
53:32
is her friend. He is big.
53:35
Yeah, Dennis is her friend also. You're my friend, You're big.
53:40
But Toby is also big. He's tall, not fat.
53:44
Don't call him fat. He's old like grandma.
53:47
Don't call him old. Don't call grandma would either.
53:51
And she's like, but I can't tell him.
53:53
I can't tell any of his secrets that he tells me.
53:56
And he's like, why not? And she's like, because I'll get
53:59
in big trouble. And he goes, she'll he'll hurt
54:01
you. And she goes, no, just I won't
54:03
be safe. I won't be safe.
54:04
Yeah. Oh my God.
54:06
That's scary, yeah. This is stuff that, like if a
54:09
teacher heard her saying this in school, is having to make a
54:12
mandated report. They would probably think it's
54:14
Dennis. Yeah, yeah.
54:17
It's just so scary. So he tells Julie and Julie is
54:20
like, kids are weird dude, I don't know what to tell you.
54:24
One time Katie would like fall. Katie used to fall asleep on the
54:28
toilet. So and I think about that and I
54:32
think about the weird stories my mom must have about me.
54:35
Here's a weird Jesse as a child story.
54:38
I used to tie string all across my room and then hang my toys
54:43
from it like I lived in the spider web.
54:46
So I would just wonder how often my mom was like I hope this is a
54:49
phase she grows out of I. Like she still doesn't.
54:54
Randy is like, hey, there is way too much footage for you to go
54:59
through. This is an insane amount.
55:01
You were getting six hours from 2, two different cameras every
55:04
night. That's that's a lie.
55:06
Or 2024 * 248 hours. And they get tired of arguing
55:12
about math. And then they start arguing
55:13
about Back to the Future. Yeah, it should be back to the
55:16
present. Or back from the past.
55:18
Back from the past, Whatever. That's what Dennis thinks at.
55:22
Least yeah, that's it's a very normal kind of conversation that
55:25
people just have. Yeah, but they hear a noise, so
55:28
they go investigate it. And they're like looking
55:30
through, it's coming from their master bathroom and it's in the
55:34
closet. And he opens the door and he
55:37
pulls the clothes back. It's Julie in a mask.
55:43
She had a good laugh about it. I jumped.
55:46
Talia jumped. Talia jumped hard, she got so
55:49
scared from that. Here's the thing people like to
55:52
say, like, oh, there's a bunch of jump scares, but when a jump
55:54
scare is effective, it's fucking effective.
55:56
I'm scared. I'm scared, you know?
55:58
It's not. It wasn't a cheap jump scare.
55:59
It was earned. Yeah.
56:01
So night 5. The girls are outside camping.
56:05
I like that Dennis brings them some candy.
56:08
He like sneaks it too. And he's like, don't tell your
56:10
mom. Yeah, that was sweet.
56:11
Yeah. So at about 3:27 AM on September
56:17
14th, the lights are flickering on and off in the hall.
56:22
September 14th. I got 11 they they had the first
56:26
night 11/10. It had been a couple of months.
56:29
Absolutely not. It was all September.
56:31
No. Yes.
56:32
No. I've got 914, then 917, then
56:36
9/19. I made a no where.
56:40
I looked at the screen and said no.
56:45
I said September, but I'm pretty sure I saw November.
56:49
You didn't. Whatever, that's not too
56:52
important. Anyways, this is gonna watch the
56:54
details here. Okay, fine.
56:57
So yeah. Anyway, the lights are
57:00
flickering on and off in the hall and sounds wake up Julie,
57:04
who then wakes up Dennis, who looks around for the source of
57:08
the sound and checks to see if the girls like got cold or
57:13
uncomfortable or whatever and snuck back in.
57:15
But they're not in their room. So he goes downstairs and the
57:18
door is locked, which they wouldn't have.
57:20
They're like, we didn't lock this because we wanted the girls
57:23
to be able to come in. Yeah, that would be scary for
57:25
the kids, Jesse. You should just not hold that
57:27
there. I should actually hold.
57:29
It or actually hold it? Yeah.
57:31
OK, OK, so yeah, go out there and they make the kids come back
57:36
inside because shit's getting kind of unsafe.
57:38
Yeah, they're just, they're a little bit uncomfortable with
57:41
it, which fair. Yeah.
57:42
You know, the next morning when Dennis is at work and the girls
57:48
are at school, Lois is over and is talking to Julie about how,
57:52
oh, Dennis is just using your credit card to go buy this stuff
57:57
and plant those seeds like we talked about earlier.
58:01
And she was like, didn't you say you used to want to have a big
58:04
family? You wanted a son?
58:07
Remember that. Yeah.
58:10
And Julie's like, I'm happy. Why can't that be enough?
58:13
And Lois is like, oh, if only you knew.
58:17
He's getting ready to go shoot a wedding, him and Randy both.
58:20
And you can tell because they're in their nice outfit, getting
58:23
equipment and everything. And he's Randy mentions the
58:26
house set up. He's like, you're missing a lot
58:28
of stuff happening. You need to be able to get some
58:30
angles, you know, figure out a way to do that.
58:33
Maybe mirrors. Later the night when Julie comes
58:36
home, she sees that Dennis is taking apart her oscillating fan
58:42
and put a camera on top of it. Also while they were packing
58:45
shit into the car, Randy casually mentions Bloody Mary
58:49
and Katie overhears is like bloody Mary bloody Mary, can we
58:52
play? And Brandon said oh that you
58:56
didn't hear anything? That's not real.
58:57
That's not real. Yeah.
58:59
So night 8, September 17th. OK, if you say so.
59:05
I've got them all written as November, just so you know this.
59:09
Is October. No night 1011, no tiny 11 right
59:13
there. I I don't know what is wrong
59:18
with you I. Oh no, I do have night AS
59:23
September shit. God damn it.
59:25
OK, fuck. Yay.
59:28
Man. All right, OK, so.
59:29
Four O 2:00 AM. Christy is running around like a
59:33
little gremlin. It's scary.
59:36
And this is when she runs to the kitchen table to talk to Toby.
59:39
Yeah, she talks to Toby on the kitchen table, and then she
59:41
sneaks around her parents room. Julie asks Christy about Toby
59:45
the next day and she's like, well, just talk to him yourself.
59:48
He's right there. Oh, that's creepy.
59:51
Yeah. So Randy brings Dennis some
59:56
books about the occult and whatnot.
59:59
He got them from the library, but he stole them.
1:00:01
He's like, you can't steal from the library, It's all free.
1:00:03
He goes, yeah, but you have to have an account.
1:00:06
And he's talking about the source of the the name.
1:00:10
Yes, Biblioteca. Yes, Biblioteca.
1:00:13
Yeah. So he says that kids are
1:00:16
especially susceptible to spiritual contact and all of
1:00:21
this weirdness that they're talking about, sort of when
1:00:23
Christie started talking to Toby.
1:00:25
And demons feed off of fear. So these are the important
1:00:28
points that they have learned. Yes.
1:00:30
Nine, 10910 Yes. September 19th, 1988, 12:58 AM.
1:00:36
I went back to November and then notes here too.
1:00:39
I don't know what the fuck. Was I don't know what happened.
1:00:43
So yeah, 12:58 AM Julie goes to get a snack cuz she wakes up all
1:00:48
hungry. She wakes up hungry.
1:00:49
She goes downstairs. She's just eating her little
1:00:53
snacky poo, cleaning up after herself.
1:00:55
This is a nice idea to have the camera rotating back and forth
1:00:59
because this scene is so good. So she's just there doing that,
1:01:03
and then you like, as the camera is panning from her in the
1:01:06
kitchen all the way to the doorway in the living room, you
1:01:08
get the little ghost sheet. No, no, this is not the ghost
1:01:11
sheet. This is the lamp sheets.
1:01:14
You're right, you're right, you're right.
1:01:15
Sheets the. Babysitter.
1:01:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Never mind. OK, So, yeah, the lamp is
1:01:18
starting to swing. Like swing a little bit and then
1:01:21
it cuts back to Julie and then you get this loud bang.
1:01:24
Yeah, and they everybody wakes up and comes downstairs and the
1:01:29
lamp didn't really break, which is why.
1:01:31
This is weird, yeah. The next day, Dennis joins
1:01:36
Christie's tea party and. Almost sits in Toby.
1:01:40
Seat almost sits in Toby seat. Toby wouldn't like that.
1:01:43
Wouldn't like that, No. And Katie's making fun of
1:01:46
Christie and they are kind of going back and forth and then
1:01:50
she ends up going in the little room and the door slams and
1:01:55
Katie's like, Krista, let me out, let me out.
1:01:57
And then little Christie goes, you shouldn't have do that.
1:02:00
You shouldn't have do that you. Shouldn't have do that?
1:02:03
Which is going to be our tagline for this movie, everybody.
1:02:06
We decided that last night. You shouldn't have do that.
1:02:09
That's the tagline. For Paranormal Activity 3,
1:02:11
because it's the way a little kid, like you could tell we were
1:02:16
talking about it, it doesn't feel like the script was written
1:02:19
that way because you can't write authentic child dialogue that
1:02:23
way. But that is absolutely the way a
1:02:26
six or seven-year old who's getting too excited and is
1:02:28
tripping over their own words would say it.
1:02:30
We're like, did did they do this scene multiple?
1:02:34
Times. That's my best.
1:02:35
Take they got you shouldn't have do that.
1:02:38
I'm just wondering how many takes the director going cut.
1:02:42
God damn it, you shouldn't have done that.
1:02:47
Should you do? That and I like it though
1:02:50
because it feels real. It does feel real, yeah.
1:02:53
So Lisa is there to babysit so Dennis and Julie can have a
1:02:56
great night. The girls are trying to
1:03:01
negotiate their bedtime unsuccessfully.
1:03:04
Can't do that with a babysitter. Babysitter.
1:03:06
Always a nose. And they're like, tell us a
1:03:08
ghost story. But she doesn't really tell a
1:03:10
ghost story because she's smarter than that.
1:03:12
She knows that we'd. We're not trying to get people
1:03:14
scared. Yeah, but she does put on a
1:03:17
sheet and pretends to be a ghost.
1:03:20
I'm a ghost. I'm a ghost.
1:03:22
That's basically it. So the kids go to bed?
1:03:25
Yeah, they go to sleep. She's in the kitchen doing some
1:03:28
homework. It's about 1011.
1:03:30
She does a Boo at the camera. I'm confused at how old she's
1:03:34
supposed to be because she's doing homework but then later on
1:03:37
Randy's like can you set me up with her?
1:03:39
Like is she in college? That's possible.
1:03:42
She would have to be I. Have maybe like 17 or 18.
1:03:45
OK, so yeah, she's doing homework down there and you got
1:03:48
the cool camera panning thing. Yes, and this is really nice
1:03:51
because it's one of those like it automatically sets up that
1:03:55
kind of dread because you're like what am I going to see when
1:03:58
I. Yeah.
1:03:58
What are you seeing over there? And then, yeah, it's like time
1:04:01
goes by, you know what's going to be over there.
1:04:04
Then when I come back. And what we see is a small
1:04:09
figure in a sheet, and we've established Toby's big.
1:04:13
Yes, this is. So we're thinking maybe this is
1:04:15
Christy or Katie, Maybe they're trying to be a little sneaky
1:04:19
sneak and they climb secretly into the kitchen and then the
1:04:23
sheet just jumps. Now, I don't think it's a
1:04:25
different demon. I think this is Toby being a
1:04:27
scamp. Can Toby resize himself?
1:04:29
I think so. I think Toby.
1:04:31
Be like, on his, like, knees just like crawling.
1:04:34
Crawling. Yeah.
1:04:36
No, I like, I like to imagine that he appears different ways
1:04:39
to different people. And for Christie, like bigger
1:04:44
will probably be more impressive.
1:04:45
She's a child. That's true.
1:04:48
But yeah, so she's, she Lisa goes upstairs to check on the
1:04:51
girls and they're asleep and she kind of gets near the camera and
1:04:55
something blows in her face and she's freaked out.
1:04:58
She's waiting by the door when they get home at 11.
1:05:00
And she really like, she, I think she would have left
1:05:02
without the money. And us, like, hold on.
1:05:04
She's like, OK, thanks. Bye.
1:05:05
And they're just like, that was weird.
1:05:08
Don't know what happened there. Are you OK?
1:05:10
And then Dennis shows Randy the ghost video.
1:05:15
Yeah, and like, how do you explain that?
1:05:17
Yeah, I do like though this made me happy for a reason I can't
1:05:21
really explain, but I like the authenticity that Randy is
1:05:26
holding the old school big pen cuz we got the big pen in our
1:05:29
house. They're the new like translucent
1:05:31
Gray, but back in the day they were white with Black Cats.
1:05:35
Yeah, I remember them. And that's what he's got, and he
1:05:37
really likes that little touch. That was some nice attention to
1:05:40
detail right there. Good, good decoration.
1:05:43
So yeah, they're just reviewing the footage and no explanation.
1:05:48
No explanation, no, but they're like, that's a fucking ghost.
1:05:50
Like they are sold now. Yeah, that they're the place is
1:05:54
actually haunted. So Night 13 September 22nd 2:17
1:05:59
AM Christy is in her parents doorway for more than an hour
1:06:04
and just. Standing there doing the old
1:06:06
Katie trick and. Then she tells Toby she doesn't
1:06:09
want to talk to him anymore. Then we see the room in the
1:06:14
daytime. She's got the fucking frog chair
1:06:16
from Animal Crossing. She does.
1:06:18
And you know, if you if you know those of you know.
1:06:21
Yeah. You know, And I didn't even know
1:06:23
if that was a real chair, but apparently either it is or
1:06:27
somebody is an Animal Crossing fan who made this movie.
1:06:31
I like to imagine somebody is an Animal Crossing fan.
1:06:33
That's. What I hope, that's what I hope
1:06:35
that's what. I hope so.
1:06:36
The Deathly Hallows has been drawn in the little room.
1:06:39
Oh yeah, and we get the Animal Crossing cheer.
1:06:42
Yeah, and then Christie has a really bad fever.
1:06:45
Yeah, it's a It's a Toby Rage fever.
1:06:47
Yeah, is what this is. So they they make Randy watch
1:06:52
Katie while they take her to the doctor.
1:06:54
They'll like make him, but they're like, hey, you're a pal
1:06:57
and our babysitter probably quit after being yes, so can you come
1:07:03
hang out with Katie and Katie's like, hey, we're doing Bloody
1:07:07
Mary. And Randy's like, OK, except
1:07:10
because he's a lame O, he turns the light on right away and
1:07:15
she's like, you did it wrong. You have to leave it off longer.
1:07:19
So they do it again. Well, he's, this is yeah,
1:07:22
interesting because he's like, OK, yeah, it's stupid.
1:07:24
It's not real. And she's like, no, we got to do
1:07:26
it. He's like, all right, you want
1:07:27
to fucking do this, You want to fucking do Bloody Mary, we'll do
1:07:29
the real thing. Like he's actually like kind of
1:07:31
mad about it. He's like, we're fucking doing
1:07:33
it then because. He asked her to explain what she
1:07:35
thinks Bloody Mary is. And she's like, so you go in
1:07:37
there and you say her name three times and you turn off the light
1:07:40
and then she tries to kill you and he goes tries to kill you.
1:07:43
Good game. Yeah, we're about to find out.
1:07:46
He's like, all right, we're going to Bloody Mary harder than
1:07:48
anybody's bloody married before. So they do it the first time he
1:07:51
turns on the light too soon. So then they do it a second time
1:07:54
and she will not let him turn on the light and then he gets
1:07:58
attacked. Yeah, he gets straight up cut on
1:08:00
his side. Yeah, he gets like a nice long
1:08:02
cut and Katie is immediately freaked out.
1:08:06
He goes, no, no, I probably just, I just accidentally
1:08:08
scratched myself. I love this of him trying so
1:08:13
hard to stay together for the kids.
1:08:16
That's what the saying really is.
1:08:18
Stay together for the kids mentally.
1:08:21
Don't stay in a toxic relationship, but stay together
1:08:24
mentally for the sake of the kids.
1:08:26
He's still got to be the adult here.
1:08:28
She's trying real hard, but that's a tough situation to do
1:08:30
it. But it's so.
1:08:30
Funny, but she's barely an adult himself.
1:08:33
Yeah, he's a young and. He's also just kind of a funny
1:08:35
character, so I just love this whole thing.
1:08:38
Yeah. And he's like, he's like, no,
1:08:40
it's OK, it's OK. And then they hear sounds out
1:08:42
there and then there's an earthquake and he, he's so funny
1:08:46
and sees furniture flying and he slams the door.
1:08:49
He goes, it's OK, Katie, there's nothing out there.
1:08:51
It's OK. And she's like.
1:08:53
You know, you lose our respect for the person when they lose
1:08:55
their shit like that. And yeah, it just pulling
1:08:58
himself back together. That was me on.
1:09:00
That one ride at Holiday World a couple of months ago.
1:09:02
Yeah, you're scaring the kids. The kids were keeping it
1:09:05
together for you. Yeah, I didn't expect it to be
1:09:09
as intense as it was. Listen, those types of rides are
1:09:13
not supposed to go vertical. They're not.
1:09:16
They're not. I wasn't ready until.
1:09:18
Until. Yeah.
1:09:20
So anyway, Randy is trying to hype himself up and not freak
1:09:23
out Katie, but he did a bad job. Yeah.
1:09:26
When Dennis and Julie get back with Christy, Randy is mad.
1:09:30
And he was like, you, you're fucking with something here.
1:09:34
And Dennis is trying to basically gaslight him.
1:09:38
He's like, no, it's not like that.
1:09:39
I know I keep saying gaslight with these movies, but it's not.
1:09:42
Wrong. It's true.
1:09:42
That's what these movies are. And then he Randy's like, just
1:09:46
fucking watch the tape because he recorded the whole thing
1:09:49
because of course he did. Katie made him.
1:09:51
I like that. He was like, no, bring in the
1:09:52
camera. Yeah, I mean, it's smart.
1:09:55
Crocodile Hunter, but with ghosts.
1:09:57
That's what she's she is little. What is her name?
1:10:02
Dundee. No, the crocodile hunter, his
1:10:06
daughter. I don't know.
1:10:09
I don't know that Bindi, Bindi. Irwin Bindi.
1:10:12
Yeah. So she's a, she's a little
1:10:14
little bindi, a little bindi. So Dennis watch is it and he.
1:10:19
Tries to show. Julie.
1:10:22
Yeah. And he's got, like, all this
1:10:24
other research. He's got, like this photo from
1:10:26
the 30s of these women that are all wearing the same, like
1:10:29
wearing a necklace at the same symbol that's in the tiny room.
1:10:33
And she's just not wanting to hear it.
1:10:35
She freaks out on them. She's like, look, you gotta stop
1:10:39
thinking this shit. You're hurting the kids.
1:10:42
Like they're like getting really freaked out by this Toby thing.
1:10:46
And to prove that point, Katie and Christy are upstairs playing
1:10:49
tag and Katie runs into something.
1:10:53
It's shoulder checked, shoulder checked by Toby.
1:10:55
And then he picks her up by her hair.
1:10:58
So yeah, he's he's Stelio Contos.
1:11:01
Stelio Contos. So she runs downstairs and she's
1:11:06
crying to her mom and she's like, Toby attacked me.
1:11:08
And my hair. Yeah.
1:11:10
And she looks like Dennis, like you did this.
1:11:13
And. She's like, you're obsessed,
1:11:15
you're not spending enough time with us, like this is a problem.
1:11:19
So then we cut to night 14. It is 1:38 AM Katie's bed moves,
1:11:24
and she ends up waking up Christy.
1:11:27
And all of their stuff's moving. It starts off slow, like,
1:11:30
stuff's just moving. The light bright comes on.
1:11:32
The pictures on the wall are kind of blowing gently.
1:11:36
Katie gets pulled to the little room, and Christy freaks out.
1:11:40
Yeah, that's scary. Yeah.
1:11:41
And she's like, fine, I'll do it, I'll do it.
1:11:43
She uses Katie to Toby uses Katie to get Katie to agree to
1:11:49
do what it is that she's supposed to do.
1:11:52
So Julie, it cuts to Julie saying that like, we can't just
1:11:57
go to grandma's house. Like this is we're not doing
1:11:59
this. This is not what's happening.
1:12:01
And then later when she's in the kitchen by herself, she's doing
1:12:06
something. She hears a knock at the door,
1:12:08
goes check on it and she comes back.
1:12:10
She I like how she moves with the fan as it's as it's moving.
1:12:14
I say the fan, the camera. Oh yeah.
1:12:16
The. Fan yes, thank you.
1:12:19
And she gets to the kitchen and all of the furniture.
1:12:24
Everything. Decorations, everything, it's
1:12:28
just gone. And then it all comes crashing
1:12:31
down, and that's where she's like Dennis.
1:12:34
Yeah, that's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's terrifying.
1:12:38
Yeah, so. They're in Moorpark, CA now.
1:12:42
September 1988. Old.
1:12:43
Grandma's old. Grandma's So the girls, there's
1:12:47
a distinct difference now because the girls are not
1:12:49
talking to Dennis and if they are talking, it's like one word
1:12:51
answers when whereas the whole rest of the movie we've seen
1:12:54
them being very excited to engage with him.
1:12:57
They clearly love him and he he loves them.
1:13:00
And so this is a different, definitely a different dynamic
1:13:04
that's happening. Yeah.
1:13:05
So Chrissy's playing dress up with her grandma and sister and
1:13:09
she's wearing like a whole ass wedding dress.
1:13:12
And Dennis is like, who are you marrying?
1:13:14
And she goes Toby. What?
1:13:17
The fuck? So they go to bed, The girls are
1:13:21
in the queen bed and Dennis and Julie are in 2 little twin beds.
1:13:28
Except Julie climbs into Dennis's bed 'cause whatever.
1:13:33
I thought it was interesting that he still sets up the
1:13:35
cameras in Grandma's house. Yeah.
1:13:39
So yeah, they are. It's 1:33 AM.
1:13:44
Grandma's in the hallway and just watching Dennis and Julie
1:13:49
in the bedroom. Dennis wakes up and everybody's
1:13:52
gone and he just starts looking around the house cuz Julie's
1:13:55
gone. The girls are gone.
1:13:57
There's the creepy rocking horse from Hello Mary Lou.
1:13:59
Prom night too. Downstairs, everything just
1:14:04
feels a little bit weird. The pictures have been taken off
1:14:06
the wall and there's symbols underneath them.
1:14:09
That's frightening. There's silhouettes against the
1:14:12
window, there's just like a lot of things happening that don't
1:14:17
feel good. And he ends up going through his
1:14:20
little breezeway towards a garage.
1:14:22
I. Assume I think it was like
1:14:24
either a shed or a guest house. Yeah, either way.
1:14:27
Yeah. He walks in there and it's Lois
1:14:30
and her bingo club and dude. This, this is creepy.
1:14:35
I remember first time watching this.
1:14:36
This is a creepy way to end the movie because there's just a
1:14:39
fucking cult thing happening in the backyard.
1:14:42
And here's the thing. So I know it's like a common
1:14:45
trope in slashers about how the killer just, like, walks while
1:14:48
the victim is running. Yeah, it's somehow creepier when
1:14:51
it's a whole coven of witches just slowly walking after you
1:14:54
and you're running. It's.
1:14:55
It is really freaky the way that they do this year so.
1:14:58
He gets inside and he sees Julie at the top of the stairs.
1:15:01
She is levitate, levitating, and then is used to knock him down
1:15:05
the stairs. You know, I'm gonna say it.
1:15:07
I mean hereditary. Exactly.
1:15:10
So Christie sees this and Dennis is like trying to comfort her
1:15:13
and tell her that her mom will be OK and then also they go and
1:15:16
hide in the closet together and she's freaking out and he's
1:15:20
trying to like keep her calm and when he thinks the coast is
1:15:23
clear they're about to run. Except then they see Katie.
1:15:29
Just kind of hunched over next. To the stairs.
1:15:31
He's trying to get her. He's trying to get her up and be
1:15:35
like we'll come back for your mom, but we got to get out right
1:15:37
now. Like you're you're the number
1:15:38
one priority and she turns around and she's all creepy face
1:15:43
and attacks him. You got that Buffy vampire
1:15:46
makeup. Yeah, yeah, Vampyce.
1:15:47
Yeah, so Grandma walks in, takes Dennis and does a full blown
1:15:54
scorpion on. Dennis and.
1:15:56
Breaks his back. Yeah, it's a yeah.
1:15:59
She fully wins. Day sees him.
1:16:01
Yeah. It's.
1:16:02
Not good. And that's that's.
1:16:06
That's it. Well, she's dead.
1:16:07
She then takes Christie and Toby upstairs.
1:16:12
Yeah, yeah. That's, and I mean, we know, we
1:16:15
know how their stories end. Yep, we know how that.
1:16:18
Goes well, actually. We have a little bit more to
1:16:19
talk about with Katie eventually, but.
1:16:21
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
1:16:23
But either way, interesting. It's a, it's a heck of a new
1:16:26
thing. Yeah, it's a solid.
1:16:27
Movie and you know, now that we we talked about it, there really
1:16:29
actually is a lot happening at all times in this movie.
1:16:31
Yeah, for sure. I think just the not constantly
1:16:34
being like night one, night two, I think it lets it all tell a
1:16:39
more cohesive story that way. Gives us some a different flow.
1:16:42
Yeah, it gives. A little room to breathe.
1:16:44
Yeah, I like it. I'm gonna keep it at 9:00.
1:16:48
Yeah, I think I'll keep mine at 85 still.
1:16:50
What would you change to bump it up a little?
1:16:54
I think I would probably give it more legitimate scare moments,
1:16:59
like we said before, because we get a lot of those fake outs.
1:17:02
Yeah. And I think you could have taken
1:17:04
one of those moments and do the tooth fairy thing, you know,
1:17:07
just like a little shit like that.
1:17:08
Really good. Yeah.
1:17:09
I think that that would have been really scary.
1:17:11
OK, so instead of doing a dream sequel the way we normally do,
1:17:14
let's imagine the movie we went between this and the first
1:17:19
Paranormal Activity. So a sequel to the prequel?
1:17:24
You know what I want? What I want to see Toby doing a
1:17:29
Recon mission on Mika. Oh.
1:17:31
Dude, I was thinking that. Too.
1:17:33
Maybe Mika's actually like a nice, polite teenage boy.
1:17:37
And then. Toby corrupts.
1:17:39
Yeah, Toby corrupts, but we see it like over a series of years,
1:17:42
like And when he becomes a traitor, he gets him into
1:17:44
cocaine and gets him in fights and.
1:17:47
Gets him like yeah some. Makes him real jaded and cynic.
1:17:51
Goes to the bathroom and he's like got some gel like on his
1:17:55
scene you're. Gonna slick back to your hair
1:17:56
like a real piece of shit. Yeah, he's slap.
1:17:59
Up your stakes. And he goes to his bed and
1:18:01
there's like this, like folded shirt and it's got like the
1:18:04
collar permanently popped. Anytime he tries to like put it
1:18:06
down it just pops right. Back Toby just follows him along
1:18:08
and just pops back up. Fuck man, like I guess I'm just
1:18:11
looking. So just yeah.
1:18:13
Piece of shit. Yeah, I want that.
1:18:17
I want that. I like that too.
1:18:20
It's like, it's like the it's kind of a redemption arc because
1:18:24
we see that Mika wasn't always a piece of shit.
1:18:27
But it makes it more of a tragedy, yeah, because we saw
1:18:30
what he would have. Been.
1:18:31
Yeah, it's a reverse redemption arc.
1:18:33
Yeah, like oh man, see how fucked?
1:18:36
Up, Toby. Is here he corrupted this, he
1:18:38
turned him into that. He turned him into a real piece
1:18:42
of shit, and that baby knows that baby that Katie stole.
1:18:46
That baby knows people can't change.
1:18:48
Can't change. Or at least, he thinks people
1:18:51
can't. Change.
1:18:52
And you know how those movies kind of intertwined too.
1:18:55
So what if the little ghost was Mika and Toby was just giving
1:19:02
them some little protection, making them invisible?
1:19:05
Maybe, maybe I guess a little bit too physicsy.
1:19:11
We'll expand the lore in the Mika version.
1:19:13
The Mika verse. The Mika verse, yeah, we'll,
1:19:16
we'll expand it a little bit there.
1:19:18
OK, OK. What did Talia think about this
1:19:21
movie? I think she was scared because
1:19:23
she actually got scared and jumped and.
1:19:26
Yeah, she was playing with her popcorn real hard.
1:19:30
It's a popcorn toy, for the record.
1:19:32
Yes, yeah. She she was playing with it real
1:19:35
hard and then she tried to go to sleep after her big scare, but
1:19:38
she was all twitchy and stuff and they're sleeping.
1:19:40
No point, girl. So I think Talia is gonna, she's
1:19:43
gonna give this. Say 9.
1:19:46
I think she's gonna give it a 10 because there's there's no
1:19:50
ambiguity about any dogs. That's true.
1:19:53
We don't have to worry about that.
1:19:54
We don't have to ask the rider this time around.
1:19:56
Yes. No.
1:19:58
OK. Zoe's ultimate warrior.
1:20:02
I mean, it's gotta be that little scamp, Toby.
1:20:06
It's gotta be Toby. But man, yeah, it almost feels
1:20:08
cheating. But yeah, Toby, I think it's the
1:20:10
real deal with this one right here.
1:20:13
It's gotta be Toby. I mean if it's not Toby then
1:20:15
it's Christie cuz she hides under trampolines and in tiny
1:20:19
rooms. And that'd be more scouts.
1:20:22
Very protective about her seats and where people can and can't
1:20:25
sit even if it's not currently occupied.
1:20:29
Yeah, I think Toby probably still gets the edge there.
1:20:34
OK. Yeah, it's Toby.
1:20:36
It's always a little scamp too. She is.
1:20:38
Yeah. I'm sure you all heard her.
1:20:40
She's screaming at us because it's past her food time.
1:20:42
Yeah. It's past her food time, but
1:20:43
they had a late breakfast because it's the weekend.
1:20:45
Yeah, OK. Who did you relate to?
1:20:48
Who? Did I relate to I'm, you know,
1:20:51
the happier days? I relate to the girls and Dennis
1:20:55
and their relationship because I'm from a blended family and I
1:21:00
very much. I love it when a movie doesn't
1:21:03
project that as like an obstacle to overcome and that you can
1:21:07
just have family dynamics without being like all
1:21:11
biological. Yeah, that is cool.
1:21:13
I like that. So I guess I really probably did
1:21:15
Katie because I'm the older sister from my original unit.
1:21:22
Yeah, that makes sense. I relate to Randy because like
1:21:25
Randy, I get roped into shit that probably shouldn't be
1:21:30
letting little kids do because little kids just tell me, hey,
1:21:34
this is what I can do. This is what happened to me at
1:21:37
our. Yeah, my.
1:21:38
My older sister her. Our niece's birthday party.
1:21:43
Yeah, her younger brother just like was like, I'm thirsty.
1:21:47
And Travis goes, you want a juice or a water?
1:21:50
And he goes juice. And me knowing my sister tries
1:21:55
to limit their juice, I was like, he's he already had one or
1:21:58
is he good to have one? She goes, no, he's already had
1:21:59
one. I was like, sorry, bud, you
1:22:01
can't. And Travis like, oops, my bad.
1:22:03
And later he walks towards the playground and just kind of
1:22:07
turns around and Don Corleone. Just grabs my hand.
1:22:11
Come with me. Yeah, and then he drags me.
1:22:14
Up to the swings and we're all down in the gazebo, but watching
1:22:18
this go down and my sister was like, he has never swung on the
1:22:23
big kids swing before. And so when they get back, we
1:22:27
asked Travis, hey, what was up with that?
1:22:29
Because Oh no, he said that he does this all the time.
1:22:31
Yeah, he, he told me. He's, I said, hey, can you do
1:22:34
this? And he's like, yeah, I got this.
1:22:36
He's like, yeah, no, I'm really good.
1:22:37
I'm. Really good with such
1:22:38
confidence. Like if you would have told me
1:22:40
like, so we played Bloody Mary in my house.
1:22:43
So I would be like, oh cool, all right, let's do it.
1:22:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, you say so.
1:22:48
Yeah, I'm, I'm totally in on this.
1:22:50
You are in charge. Yeah.
1:22:52
So I relate to Randy. All right, we already got our
1:22:58
tagline, we already got our SQL, so I guess it's time for
1:23:00
reviews. OK, so as I said before, a lot
1:23:04
of people, the main complaint was about the trailer.
1:23:07
Yeah, but I did find this review and it just, it kind of made me
1:23:11
laugh, so I wanted to use it. OK, so one out of 10 direct to
1:23:18
YouTube. Whoa.
1:23:19
OK, interesting. Since my second job of buying
1:23:22
lottery tickets isn't paying off, I've decided to make my
1:23:25
first million by means of a webcam.
1:23:27
It seems easy enough. Film a boring house with a
1:23:30
boring family for about 90 minutes.
1:23:32
Label different scenes as day one through 30.
1:23:35
Make sure my buddy opens or slams doors and drops items by
1:23:38
means of cheap fishing wire in the background while I scream.
1:23:40
I'm like, why was that? Oh my God.
1:23:45
Thanks Hollywood, you've made my rich dreams come true.
1:23:48
You've proved you don't need to be a million.
1:23:49
You don't need millions to make millions.
1:23:51
I can make a movie like Paranormal Activity Three one
1:23:54
out of five stars just for the price of a webcam, Maybe even
1:23:57
less. I guess I could return the
1:23:59
webcam since the entire movie can be made in less than two
1:24:01
hours and my buddy can even be an intern.
1:24:05
OK, I'll be serious. These movies, these choice to
1:24:08
get through should come with the disclaimer.
1:24:10
Only if you believe in real life paranormal activities will you
1:24:13
be frightened. As for saying people, we
1:24:15
apologize for the inconvenience of the next 90 minutes.
1:24:18
Oh, come. On but even that statement won't
1:24:20
hold up much for these movies aren't even trying to make you
1:24:23
believe they actually happened. So you'll get a fictional movie
1:24:26
pick one Paranormal Activity 1-2 or three.
1:24:28
They're all exactly the same movie, and for about 90 minutes
1:24:32
you'll have roughly one to two minutes of something happening
1:24:34
or changing in the background. Wow, you devoted fans have a
1:24:37
shit load more patience than me. Look, yeah, I don't fall under
1:24:41
the believe in ghost mentality, but truthfully, in a rage when I
1:24:44
got home, I said Bloody Mary three times in the mirror as
1:24:47
instructed in the movie, just to end it miserably, I guess
1:24:50
because I didn't believe enough, because nothing happened to
1:24:53
finish off my pain. Did you do it in the dark?
1:24:56
He said he'd followed instructions.
1:24:58
So yeah, this is a. That is something I don't
1:25:03
believe in ghosts. Myself, yes.
1:25:05
And I find moments in these movies to be creepy because it's
1:25:09
not about believing if it's real or not.
1:25:11
It's buying into the movie. Yeah.
1:25:13
So if you like, allow yourself to buy into a movie, you can be
1:25:18
caught up in it. Yes.
1:25:20
I don't think I'm going to ever see a little Toby do a little
1:25:23
ghost sheet scare. But that I thought was really
1:25:27
unsettling to watch in the movie here.
1:25:29
Yeah. And I, I appreciate that about
1:25:30
about you because I know you're not like a person like we're
1:25:33
very much on different spectrums of what we believe in terms of
1:25:37
that. And I like that we can enjoy
1:25:39
these the same. Yeah, I mean, it's all about
1:25:41
like, I mean, just suspension of belief or disbelief or whatever
1:25:45
it is. Like it you just kind of like
1:25:47
just buy into it. It's a movie.
1:25:50
Like let it be scary for you. And I think, and this is
1:25:54
something that we talked about with Freaky too, that
1:25:56
Christopher Landon's pretty good about writing just like people
1:25:58
just being people. That's true.
1:26:00
And, and I think that's part of what this movie does so well.
1:26:04
If you're not here just to have like a jump scare every few
1:26:07
minutes or be like truly terrified, If you're here to
1:26:11
enjoy a movie experience beyond that, which I'm not judging you,
1:26:15
if you want to watch a horror movie and be scared all the way
1:26:17
through, there's a place for that.
1:26:19
There are movies for that. This is not that movie, but this
1:26:22
is a movie that you can live in and enjoy and you do get those
1:26:25
moments that are scary also. See, I would argue if you had
1:26:29
nothing but those moments, it would lose its impact.
1:26:32
I think you need the smaller moments for the bigger moments
1:26:36
to have that landing, but to land as it does.
1:26:40
I mean think about if Mika had died like this in the first
1:26:44
movie, like him dying at the end of the first movie was.
1:26:48
We got to tell you scratching on the door here.
1:26:50
OK, it it was shocking because, you know, we've been with him
1:26:53
the whole time and we had no clue how the movie was going to
1:26:55
end, right? But it wasn't like an emotional
1:26:57
gut punch. It was just like, oh, Dang, he
1:26:59
died. But in this one, I was like
1:27:02
tennis. We wanted you to get out.
1:27:05
Like, yeah, it, it's a completely different feeling at
1:27:07
the end. Yeah, it is.
1:27:09
So, yeah. So yeah, whatever man.
1:27:11
If you know, it's fine. If it doesn't, put your boat,
1:27:15
yeah, but still, whatever. This movie has its place for the
1:27:18
people that like it, but like I said, if you're expecting
1:27:21
something that's going to be a different caliber of scary, then
1:27:26
it all depends on what you believe in and what you want in
1:27:29
a story and. You don't You don't have to
1:27:31
believe in actual paranormal shit for it to be a good movie
1:27:36
too. Yeah, I think, Oh my God, what
1:27:38
are they doing out there? They're.
1:27:39
Fighting. Yeah, chill out, you guys.
1:27:42
OK, let's do some listener reviews then.
1:27:45
All right, we'll start off over on Instagram.
1:27:48
First off, we have Marnie, who says best of the Paranormal
1:27:53
Activity franchise. I think that's a sentiment I
1:27:56
feel like a lot of people have that this is the top one of the
1:27:59
yes, the whole franchise. Next up, we have Michael E
1:28:04
Howard, who says I recently did a rewatch of all the Paranormal
1:28:08
Activity movies. 3 is my second favorite.
1:28:11
The scares were top notch. The setting with the young girls
1:28:13
had the perfect tone. It was nice to get some of the
1:28:16
back story for the first two films. 8 out of 10.
1:28:19
All right, all right, so pretty much align with what we were
1:28:23
saying before, too. Yeah, so nice.
1:28:26
Over on Twitter we have Seraquili boobs.
1:28:30
Who says origin story time? I like how they went back in
1:28:33
time for the third installment. This one was great.
1:28:36
The franchise kind of fell off for me after the original three.
1:28:39
Only one I liked after this one was the marked ones.
1:28:43
I've only seen that one one time.
1:28:45
Yeah, me too. So it'll be interesting to
1:28:47
revisit it like as we're going through these in more detail.
1:28:50
I can't. I think I remember enjoying that
1:28:52
one too. When we saw that, we saw that
1:28:54
one in theaters. I remember too.
1:28:56
That one. Had both.
1:28:57
Most of these we did, but. That one got very metaphysical,
1:29:01
kind of like what you're talking about with your your Mika.
1:29:04
Yeah, prequel corruption story. And maybe he's like, that's when
1:29:08
they go into the Mika verse. Yeah.
1:29:10
Yeah. All right.
1:29:12
Next up, we have Tyler, who says the best of the series to me
1:29:16
personally, because it probably scares me the most.
1:29:18
The rotating camera bits are genius.
1:29:20
And between the kitchen scene and the garage scene, I think
1:29:23
this one is so successful and it's scarce.
1:29:26
Yeah, those are the highlight moments for me, too.
1:29:28
The like the rotating camera was a great addition.
1:29:31
It was so smart. It stands out and it always
1:29:33
blows my mind that it doesn't happen right away.
1:29:36
Yeah, and I'm always waiting for.
1:29:38
I'm like, where's the fucking fan?
1:29:40
Because it's so good. It is.
1:29:42
And that ending where they just see the like the whole group of
1:29:47
the colt just in there in the back, just doing the shit,
1:29:50
that's fucking terrifying. Can you imagine just rolling in
1:29:52
on that? I like to imagine that's when
1:29:54
Ari Astor started writing his movies.
1:29:56
He's like, we are going to have groups of women, sometimes men,
1:30:00
always naked, just. You know.
1:30:02
Slowly walking at a person. What if this was the source of
1:30:06
Ari Astor's trauma? This movie right here.
1:30:10
This ending is like I will never be the same.
1:30:15
OK, final review is from Ward Zombie, who says one of the
1:30:19
better of the series would have made a great end to the series
1:30:23
or to get scares and a nicer pacing than the first one.
1:30:25
Holy shit. Pretty much perfect for what we
1:30:28
were saying to yeah, I agree. This is probably it's tough.
1:30:32
I like this one. I like the first one a lot.
1:30:35
I like the 2nd and the third one are very close for me. 2nd is
1:30:38
really good too. Yeah.
1:30:40
First though, it's just hard to beat because I feel like that
1:30:45
one has a lot more nothing, but I feel like they have a lot more
1:30:48
like impactful moments. It does.
1:30:50
Like as much as I hate Mika and every time he's on scream I
1:30:55
want. Every time he's on screen I want
1:30:57
to scream. But he's awesome.
1:30:59
Because of that, yeah, Like he gave us so many iconic moments,
1:31:03
like, of why establishing some of the lore of, you know, how
1:31:08
fear makes such a big difference, and he's not helping
1:31:11
her fear at all. And like he is the original girl
1:31:14
robust gatekeep gaslight of the franchise.
1:31:18
It's just. It's good, but yeah, this is.
1:31:20
A real solid trilogy. Yeah, it really is.
1:31:23
Yeah. OK, Which according to Travis,
1:31:25
you can refer to anything as the original trilogy.
1:31:28
And of course, I wouldn't immediately think of Star Wars.
1:31:33
What were we talking about before this?
1:31:35
I said how I used to have the original trilogy in a box set
1:31:39
and you said, oh, Batman, I don't know what.
1:31:42
Well, there are original trilogies of Batman and we were
1:31:45
talking about that. To be original trilogy, it's
1:31:50
always Star Wars. Do you know how many Batman
1:31:53
trilogies there are? There is an original trilogy out
1:31:56
there. All right, let's cut this shit.
1:32:01
All right, so. Next movie.
1:32:04
Next. Week is child's play, too.
1:32:07
Yeah, we get more Chucky. Yeah, let's see if it's
1:32:10
streaming anywhere. We own this shit, so that's how
1:32:13
we're going to watch it. But if you're not lucky like us,
1:32:17
you can currently watch Child's Play too for free on Tubi, or
1:32:22
you can rent it from Prime, YouTube, Google Play, or
1:32:25
Fandango at home. Formally Voodoo.
1:32:27
Yeah, I'm going to recommend the to Be option because it's free.
1:32:30
Because it's free, yeah, but if you.
1:32:33
Don't want to do that You. Don't want to do that?
1:32:35
Whatever your prerogative is, that's fine.
1:32:37
Yeah, so more power to you. So all right, be prepared.
1:32:40
Watch that one in advance. Yep.
1:32:43
And. And I did follow up and do some
1:32:46
research on Dumbala. Oh, you did so good.
1:32:49
So we'll we'll have some of that.
1:32:51
Good. All right.
1:32:52
OK, so the girls are wrapping us up out here.
1:32:54
They're. Wrapping us up so we want to
1:32:56
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1:34:01
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1:34:07
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