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The Speedway Classic Was a DISASTER · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is 557. I'll be your host, Kyle Corwin.
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I'm not doing the whole intro. I'm at the beach.
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I'm not. I'm not.
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I'm not screaming here. I'm not doing all that.
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Feels like a little bit of a cop out but.
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I'm in a You got to do what you got to do.
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I'm in a slower, slower state in vacation mode.
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I'm in vacation mode. I'm not doing all that hooting
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and hollering and shouting, even though we just got done talking
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about the weekend that our respective teams have had and
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how we're just trending in complete opposite directions.
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But that's neither here nor there.
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You're such. A cherry picker.
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It's crazy. It's crazy.
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It's a. It's a what?
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Have you done for me lately kind of sport and that's that's.
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What we're talking, I guess. Alas, we're here, Episode 557,
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and we are here to talk about the disaster that was the
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Speedway classic it was. So is this fair to say so much a
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disaster last night that I frankly had kind of lost
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interest by the time they resumed it today.
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Is that fair to say? I was golfing today so I didn't
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even watch it. Yeah.
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I mean that's that's kind of that's kind of what we're
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working with here. And look, let me just let me
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just say this, I saw a lot of people because I had posted like
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a couple tweets pertain pertaining to it.
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And they're just like, you know, people love to complain.
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People are going to find anything to complain about.
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And I'm like, you know what, how buddy, you're right, couldn't be
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further. I mean, couldn't be more spot on
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with that take. However there are certain things
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that people complain about where it's completely warranted and
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justified. The facts, the fact this is the
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fact that they're selling hot dogs without buns.
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Nachos without cheese. Nachos without cheese before
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they even reached the second inning.
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And on top of that I found out that they were charging full
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price for said snack. That's a crime.
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Dropping 13 bucks for just some tortilla chips is nuts.
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Yeah, cheeseless nachos. I think that's more of a crime
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that's. Chips.
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I think that's more of a crime than a hot dog without a bun.
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You wanted to. OK, let's have the discussion.
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What's more of a crime? A hot dog without a bun?
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Look. Let's talk heroes.
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Let's talk heroes. Who's the hero of the hot dog?
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The hot dog, not the bun. Who's the hero of Nachos?
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It's the cheese. It's the cheese.
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I'll, I'll, I'll I'll conceive that's a valid.
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Point that's a no. So if I'm dropping 13 bucks gets
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you like 4 bags of tortilla chips?
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At the store. That's the store, yeah.
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I'm that's criminal. And then I heard the merchandise
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was almost out like how not to just like dive head 1st and how
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bad the, the Speedway classic was.
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But that's kind of where we, I mean, that's kind of where we
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have to start because that's, that's what everybody in
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baseball is talking about right now and for good reason because.
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What was it on today? Like what network?
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Fox. Yeah, it was back on Fox.
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Fox. Picked it back up, but my whole
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thing is is if you're Major League Baseball, sorry, I was
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just checking my feed. If you're Major League Baseball,
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you have to be like you knew this was happening this this
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event did not sneak up on you. You've been promoted.
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You know, we've gotten on Major League Baseball before about not
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not promoting their, you know their marquee events as well as
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they should that I they've been talking about the Speedway
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classic for some time. So with that said, this event
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certainly did not sneak up on you, but the fact that this this
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venue, this event is unable to handle the the influx of people
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both with the food like we talked about the merchandise,
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the seating, the parking, I heard the parking was a
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nightmare. I.
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Didn't hear about the parking? That's tough, too.
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Like I heard you crazy multiple shuttles to to even get to the
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front of the entrance. See, that doesn't add up to me
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because you haven't. You have, what do you call that?
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A track? Arena.
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Stadium. A race track.
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There's just. You just call it a track.
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You're not a NASCAR guy, are you?
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Not at all. How many do they host 100,000?
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Well, didn't they said that they were anticipating what, 85,000
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at this event? And it was very it wasn't.
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We're talking 120 a 120,000 when it's full for a race.
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Let's check it out. Let's let's confirm this is
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Bristol. How do you not have enough
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parking when 3/4 of that is coming?
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According to Google, Bristol Motor Speedway has a capacity of
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146,000 people. But you don't have enough
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parking for 80. You not have enough How?
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How is it this much of a mess? Look, I understand.
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I understand the weather out of your control.
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We. Sure.
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We know this, that's sure. There's no reason to harp on the
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weather. That's just.
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Out of control before you move on from the weather.
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Well, maybe we can harp on the. Weather the game, Why are we
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starting for an inning? I get it.
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Well, let's talk about it from a, from a trying to start the
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game standpoint. I understand because like I said
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in our, in our, in our group text last night, from like a
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Major League Baseball standpoint, you can't just be
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like, let's try it again tomorrow, even though that's
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ultimately what they did. You can't, you can't have all
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this build up and then not see a single pitch.
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The thing, the issue that I had with Major League Baseball and
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this whole thing as it pertains to the weather was the, the
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conditions that they tried to resume this game in like they
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before they even brought the tarp out, they've got guys
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bringing on the, the, the bags of, of dirt.
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Bags. Bags trying to, you know, make
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it somewhat playable. And I'm like, I know money's
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important to Major League Baseball, but is it this
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important to where we're trying to play in this?
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This is a nightmare. So yeah, while the weather
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certainly is out of out of their control, I understand that there
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was just so many things where I feel like they were they were
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scrambling and on a lot of things, I don't know if they
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they erred on the on the correct side, if they if they threw
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caution to the right things. Yeah, I look, if I'm running the
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show here on the on the logistical stadium slash track
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side of things, I think I know about that weather 3-4 days
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before, right? I know that storm's coming. 2-3
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day. I'll give you 2 days.
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And on that note, from what I've heard, I don't know much about
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eastern Tennessee, specifically Bristol, but apparently it's
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been raining there for like the last two months.
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So I guess eastern Tennessee turns into like Seattle this
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time of year? I'm not entirely sure.
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If I see that storm coming, one of the as far as a checklist
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goes, if I've got 10 priority checklist items that I got to
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take care of more food is pretty, pretty high on that
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checklist for me. If you see rain delays, I need
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to make sure that the taps are flowing, that the that the
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cheese is moving, and that the buns are aplenty.
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How? How are you out?
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How are you out of buns and not dogs first of all?
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That's a great question. That's a great question.
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Why is the ratio off? Like who?
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Are Why do we have enough dogs? Do we have an influx of people
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that are specifically requesting dogs only right out of the gate?
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Like what? Happened.
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No disrespect, but not in that, Not that side, not that side of
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the country, You know what I'm saying?
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Not that area of the country. They know how to eat.
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They know how to party. Those people park their RV's in
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the middle of that track and stay for the weekend.
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It's a lifestyle. It's roasting pigs like it's a
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lifestyle. They know how to eat.
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They know and. You know what, they've got a
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great view from the middle of the the middle of the yard
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there. However you want to talk about
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views, that's another element to this whole thing that I think
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Major League Baseball dropped the ball on.
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Have you seen some of the pictures from the seats?
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Atrocious. Like we're talking, we're
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talking like Fenway Park on steroids, Like you know, you
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know, the, the big, the big columns like around Fenway and
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and other various parks that are a little bit older that on
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steroids, like you can't. There was, there was a view I
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saw in fact, like right before we hopped, hopped on, I was
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watching a TikTok of some, I guess it was some guy and his
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girlfriend or fiance or whatever, and they were behind
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home plate, but like half a mile away.
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And the the back of of the concourse, we'll call it a
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concourse, like the essentially like the press media area, the
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backstop area was obstructing the view.
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They couldn't even see the circle at home plate.
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I mean what? 5600 bucks to get in there.
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No doubt. And and I can just hear people
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as I'm saying this being like, well, nobody's forcing you to,
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to, to spend money on those tickets.
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Yeah, that's true. But also like, how about just
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not having, Yeah, how about just not having those to begin with?
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And apparently in that video, the guy even said, I think the
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caption was like, these tickets were listed as having a quote
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Clearview. And it just pans to the guy as
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it's like torrential downpour. And he's just like, yeah, this
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is a Clearview. Like what are, what are we
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doing? And then if, if you recall, last
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thing I'll say on the views, if you, if you recall when, when
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this, when this event was first announced, first promoted, I
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did, I took the, the rendering of the, of the track and the
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seats that they had to kind of give you an idea of what it
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would look like. And I did some super elementary
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math and I, I sort of took like a scale of like knowing how wide
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the track is, knowing, you know, taking the distance from the
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track to the wall. And I, I extrapolated that out
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to the furthest seat that they had in the rendering, which I
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believe I, if I'm not mistaken, they actually put like they,
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they used those seats that were in the rendering that were like
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3/4 of a mile away. And I said in, I said in that
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tweet and I, I said this is very basic, like elementary, you
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know, math here. But I think we're dealing with
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like a minimum of being 1000 feet away.
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That's, that's like watching like if you're watching a play
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at the plate, that's like watching a play at the goal line
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from like 3 1/2 football fields away.
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Yeah. That's what we're, that's what
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we're dealing with. Yeah, what a waste, man.
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What a waste. Because it like on paper is a
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good idea. Look, some positives.
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I, I didn't love the hats, but I did like the jerseys.
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I like the, I put that in our chat.
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I like the, the racing style numbers on the jerseys.
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Think that was a nice touch. I didn't love the hats.
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I think I'm out of positives. Can I jump in with a positive?
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Sure. Or more more general, more
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general. I I 'cause I was thinking about
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today after the fiasco that was last night.
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I. I think this was a super unique,
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the more I thought about it, very unique crossover in taking
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Major League Baseball and the the world that is NASCAR.
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Like, you know, you people can make jokes all they want, but
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like it when talking about those two respective sports, like
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there is a little bit of crossover in terms of
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followership just a little bit. So it, it kind of just made
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sense from that aspect. However, it was, it was just the
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execution, like the build up and everything was awesome.
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Even like the pre game stuff. I saw that like they had pit
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crews out there like prior to pre game intros and things like
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that. I'm like that, you know, this is
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super cool. Is it kind of gimmicky?
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Like that's fine, like that's fine.
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That's the case with a lot of these events.
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So you kind of just have to, you know, grin and bear it.
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However, it's still it. I, I think the, the idea was,
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was excellent. However, the execution was not
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because again, how you were so unprepared and to your point,
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for an event that didn't even reach like what 75% of what
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you're typically capable of, of, of handling on a, on a standard
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race day. Crazy.
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I don't understand. Yeah, I think the first mistake
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was obviously trying to force the game to happen on Saturday.
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I felt like Sunday made more sense.
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Race days are Sundays, aren't they?
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Correct. OK, there's a there's a drop the
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ball number one there #2 especially with the weather
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coming in. Like what are we doing there?
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I've been in the camp that I think, look, I like go to the
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field cause I've seen a lot of takes.
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It was like, let's get the Field of Dreams back into the mix.
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That's been the best so far as far as like A Midsummer fun
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event, non stadium, you know, field trip.
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I've been in the camp that like I understand you building
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bleachers kind of up the line and behind the backstop.
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Put some bleachers back in the corn.
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I'm not saying up against the very edge of the corn, I'm
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saying back in the corn. Why not?
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Why not put bleachers out there where people are watching a home
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run Land in front of them in corn.
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Like if you're going to make this Field of Dreams, make a
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Field of Dreams. Put seats on the track.
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Move the move the fences, readjust the alignment of the
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field to where you can have people park their RV's in the
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grass in the middle. Like if we're really going to
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blend this thing, if we're really going to commit to the
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scene, for me to do it right, commit to the scene.
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Like how how many NASCAR fans were like, I would go to this if
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it, if I had the opportunity to walk on that track for the first
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time. I love my NASCAR.
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I've never stepped foot on that track.
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Imagine walking on the track to get to your seats.
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That is feeling. If you're a NASCAR fan, you're
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in that area, you want to go to that game.
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Imagine feeling that feeling if you're a Field of Dreams fan and
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you love that movie, imagine feeling the feeling of walking
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through the cornfield to get to your seats.
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If you're going to do it, do it all the way.
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Let's not just try to make sure that we can build these spots to
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where sponsorships are available that to make sure that we can
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actually have seats that make sense.
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Like let's commit to the bit. And I don't think they've fully
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committed to some of these things.
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So that's where I'm at. I think it'd be really neat if
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you're watching your kids play around near the RV in the grass
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and you've got these guys that have, you know, tailgated all
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day, hanging out back there cooking up BBQ, grilling.
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And they're on the grass and it's on a Sunday because that's
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race day. That's how you blend it.
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Why do I? I need a raise.
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I need AI need a raise. I need a promotion.
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This goes back to what I was. Rob, this Rob didn't call.
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He needs to be calling me. Yeah.
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Can you double check? Can you double check real quick?
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Did he call it's? A couple of missed calls and it
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wasn't not. Not Rob.
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Yeah, that's tough. This goes back to what I was
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saying where I don't remember how recently I said this, but I
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remember saying this recently. Something the effect of like,
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sure, we're not the, we're not the powers that be with Major
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League Baseball or any, any fans really out there.
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We're not the powers that be. So we, we don't have any say in
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these decisions necessarily when when the rubber hits the road,
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pun intended. However, it's like some of these
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decisions that have to be made seem like just such common sense
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to where it's like such a layup and you drop the ball.
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Yeah, you drop the ball and it just it I said it last night,
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this was a this was APR nightmare Major League Baseball
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because again, you spend so much time building it up.
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And like I said, they did a great job promoting it.
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So, you know, credit, credit to them on that front.
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But this, this just, it was a flop for for more reasons than
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just the weather, again, that that's out of their control.
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But then when you start you, when you start hearing it from
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the people themselves who were there, you start seeing the
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pictures, you start seeing the people literally holding hot
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dogs without a bun, just eating them.
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It's like like just one or two. It was all over social.
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Media like that's that's kind of what we're.
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Dealing with and we get like in between innings, let's get some
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cars out there to race now that's so easy to do these
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things, these things and they I saw like a rally car going
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around. The home run car Did you see the
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home run car today? Whatever I, whatever I, I was
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all right with. That you know what I you they
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need. More.
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Well, Blooper gave us more. You want to go back to that
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point you you made about trying to find positives?
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Blooper, I think what was it he took?
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He was able to, he was able to take 13 laps last night before,
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yeah, Major League Baseball apparently kicked them off.
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That's, that's that's the stuff we need.
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That's the stuff that people need.
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Absolutely. I just need this game to succeed
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without one of the best mascots in the game.
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You know what I mean? I need you to set me up for
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success. Yeah, don't there's.
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A lot that you could have done with this and they dropped the
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ball. Yeah, don't, don't, don't have
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bloopers your crutch. Like don't, don't put this all
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on the back of blooper. You know, that's that's what I'm
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saying. It's a lot of, it's a lot to
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look. That's a big load to care.
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He can. He's capable.
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He's capable of doing it. But don't.
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But don't do that to him, you know?
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Don't force it on him, that's let him do it on his own.
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Let it, let it happen naturally. Last thing before we move on
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here. This was that picture I was
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telling you about. That's that's the view.
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That's a view that was was being offered at at said game.
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That that's the kind of thing I'm talking about where people
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are like people just love to complain.
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This is a valtrocious that is a. Valve, the right fielder and the
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first base coach and that's it. What are we doing?
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And maybe the second baseman, if they're playing in the shift,
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other than that, that's what we're that like.
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That's what we're working with here.
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So to the people that are just like, just stop complaining.
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No. Tell me that this is.
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Tell me that this is valid. No good.
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Unbelievable. However, I said we're going to
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move on, so let's move on. Enough about the Speedway
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Classic. Shout out to the Braves.
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They pulled out the dub, but. I'll be honest with you after
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last. Night I didn't care I.
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Which I knew was going to happen, and that's what Major
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League Baseball was trying to avoid.
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They said like this was their time to shine.
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I had. Plans.
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They people, people I think we're going to lose interest
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once it carried over to the next day.
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Sadly, at least me and and I think a handful of others.
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I won't say everybody, but I I would venture to say that was a
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case for a lot of people. But alas, we move on.
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Nate It was shared with the Baseball World this weekend that
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Wrigley Field will be hosting the 2027 All Star Game.
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Thoughts. My thoughts are, are we going to
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have to go to three consecutive All Star games?
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That's my initial thought. My thoughts are are we even
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going to have an All Star game in 2027?
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But I but but. I don't.
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I'm not ready to get there yet. I can't.
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But behold, Rob Manfred, the godfather, has spoken on this
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matter because he was asked about this.
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There's a thing they they were asking like, yeah, Rob, what's
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going on? Man?
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Are we? Are we?
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Yeah. Still nothing, he said.
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Rob, are we going to have baseball in 2027?
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They're asking the day he made the announcement to his point,
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he said they're asking about a contingency plan.
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And he said, my contingency plan is to make an agreement with the
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players and play the 2027 season.
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Rob, you're so full of crap. Don't stop with it.
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Nobody's nobody with the brain is buying this.
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You know, you know that guy on you know that guy on TikTok on
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the latest episode of who's buying this?
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Same thing? Same thing.
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Who's buying this? Respect for that guy.
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Eating a lot of takes guts. Nobody, nobody that knows
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anything about the game of baseball as it pertains to Major
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League Baseball and that level. Nobody believes what Rob Manfred
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is saying here. My contingency plan is to to
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make a deal with the players and play in 2027.
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Nobody believes that we're not if, if, if the way that we're
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talking about that season and and what's to come the way we
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are already just count on this All Star game not happening, Rob
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like it's it's cool that you know, the the plan is in place,
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but it let what are we what are we talking about here?
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OK. So go back, going back to your
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question, we may not have to make the choice to go to three
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straight All Star. Game, it's good point.
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It's a good point I and if you're in the chat, I'd
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appreciate your opinion. Do we have any teams that aren't
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gaslighting us? In what way?
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Of a plug in any kind of Aaron Boone response and any question
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he's ever had during post game interview of it's right in front
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of us. We believe in this team.
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Is there any team that's not feeling an aspect of that?
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You're feeling it first hand with Heim Bloom after the
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deadline, right? Craig Breslow, you mean?
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Craig Breslow, you're feeling that with with Breslow after the
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deadline of all the comments, right?
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Like the the Orioles felt it last year.
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You're, you're, you're having Alexandopolis saying not not
23:30
making any moves to the deadline.
23:31
My point being is that how many times are we as baseball fans
23:39
going to allow ourselves to get gas lit into believing the
23:45
nonsense? And I get that like the level of
23:51
competition and like the success of your team is a little bit of
23:55
a different argument versus a CBA agreement.
24:00
But it's very interesting to see the correlation of the way all
24:07
of seemingly all of our GMs answer questions.
24:12
A lot of managers, a lot of players, a lot of front offices,
24:19
the commissioner, everyone seems to just want to gaslight their
24:24
fan base. And As for baseball as a whole,
24:28
to just sit here and say that it's at least admit that you're
24:34
a little worried about this upcoming agreement because it is
24:38
in question. And I feel like the only time we
24:41
get a straight answer on any of that type of stuff is from Tony
24:45
Clark is from the Players Association.
24:49
And it's at this point where like, they're so not willing to
24:53
budget. And then we're also at the same
24:57
time hearing on the organization side, we're doing all we can.
25:04
We're always going to do all we can.
25:06
And it's the same buttering up that we've always experienced.
25:10
And I'm just like, when is enough enough?
25:12
When can we get a straight answer?
25:15
And are there any other sports that really give that?
25:17
I don't know. I don't know if it's just us
25:20
falling for this as sports fans, but the reality is we are and I
25:25
very much sway towards players. No doubt.
25:29
But what we are sitting here trying to pick sides between
25:33
millionaires and billionaires and at a certain point it's
25:37
like, can you start caring more about your fans?
25:42
Can you start putting the focus back on us and stop just giving
25:47
us this this All Star vote that we get every year And that's the
25:51
only control that we seemingly have over our game.
25:55
It's insane to me. So I am worried about a 27
25:59
season. It sucks.
26:01
I don't want to admit it, but I'm sick of both sides just
26:04
sitting here saying everything's going to be fine right over.
26:08
Well, real quick, before I forget, you want to talk?
26:11
We talk tinfoil hat all the time.
26:13
I'm not, I'm not fully convinced that the the, the All Star vote
26:17
thing actually there's a real thing.
26:21
Like I might, I might, I might Don a a a tinfoil hat on that.
26:25
I mean, how do we really know if, if Major League Baseball is,
26:28
is tallying these votes from fans for players and not just
26:32
not just pushing the players they want anyway?
26:34
That's not that's. That's neither here nor there.
26:36
It's not here and it's not there.
26:38
It's definitely not here, definitely not there.
26:42
What I would say, though, you mentioned Tony Clark, the, the,
26:46
you know, the players union, all that.
26:48
We can't be naive to think that, you know, like you said, we're
26:53
we, you and I, as well as a lot of other baseball fans who just
26:57
like watching players play and not owner sit in their luxury
27:01
suites. We lean, we, we often times
27:05
learn more players than not. However, we can't be naive to,
27:11
to think that, you know, Tony Clark and company are keeping
27:16
things on the up and up all the time.
27:17
I, you know, there, there's, there's certainly a level of
27:21
Tony Clark and the, and the players using the fans as a
27:25
crutch. Because.
27:27
They, they know that they can position us and, and, and
27:32
posture things in a way that makes it look like, well, we're
27:35
the player. Like we're the player, the
27:36
players side of things. We've got the fans in our
27:38
corner. It's like.
27:39
When in doubt, we're not blaming the the the the players.
27:43
If there's a strike, we're blaming the organizations,
27:46
correct? So it's like, yeah, that may be
27:48
true, Tony Clark and and camp that you have us in your corner
27:53
to an extent. But when when players in the and
27:56
the organizations and the owner start bickering about, you know,
28:00
things that really have no impact on us, but they're just
28:04
bickering about things because that's that's what's on the
28:07
table. And they to your point, they
28:09
sort of forget about us fans. That's when you kind of lose me
28:13
and I'm like, all right, you, you, you guys figured out and
28:16
get back to us when you finally got, you know, when when cooler
28:20
heads prevail. Nate, go ahead.
28:23
Are we are? Are we the kids in like divorce
28:26
court? Absolutely.
28:28
Every every agreement. Anytime.
28:32
Anytime the CBA. Yeah, anytime the CBA papers
28:37
come in the mail. Us US kids know that.
28:41
Who who pays the price most in divorces?
28:44
Some hard conversations are coming.
28:47
It's us. It's us, the kids.
28:50
Or or the kids. Cool, cool if Wrigley gets it
28:55
rolling, you know what I mean. Wrigley sounds nice during the
28:59
summer. Never been myself, but I could I
29:03
could get on board. Speaking of that, I didn't want
29:06
to totally derail into the the CBA nonsense, however I feel
29:11
like it is relevant here, but I do have some some information
29:14
that I pulled from from some research I was doing earlier
29:17
that I was unaware of. This will be should they host.
29:22
This will be the 4th time that Wrigley Fields host the All Star
29:25
Game. They hosted in 4762 and 1990.
29:32
Little did I know, I wasn't even born yet, so, you know, forgive
29:35
me. To those older fans out there
29:37
who may remember this, I me neither.
29:39
I certainly don't. However, I read that the 1990
29:44
All Star Game was known for its historically low offensive
29:48
output. The National League was held to
29:50
two hits, the fewest for an All Star team in history.
29:54
The get this, this is this blew my mind, blew my mind.
29:58
This wasn't even pertaining to the All Star game.
30:00
This was the Home Run Derby, the eight man Home Run Derby in
30:05
1990. The field of eight guys combined
30:09
to hit five home runs. Ryan Sandberg, rest his soul,
30:17
won the Home Run Derby with three home runs 3.
30:26
Summertime in in Chicago. The I don't know what other
30:32
explanation there is, but that blew my mind. 35 in total.
30:39
Crazy. Any who the in addition to I
30:45
meant this. Is why people took steroids.
30:48
Yeah, Major League Baseball was looking for something that that
30:52
time, that timing would track, by the way.
30:54
I mean, this is 90. And they're like, we gotta, we
30:56
let's. We gotta save something, yeah.
30:58
Let's get some things in motion here.
31:01
But I mentioned this will be their fourth time hosting.
31:05
Let me see here. Wrigley Field is set to join
31:09
Cleveland's Municipal Stadium, and the old Yankee Stadium is
31:12
the only ballparks that host 4 All Star games.
31:15
This will be the city of Chicago's 8th time hosting,
31:19
second only to New York's nine. Obviously you take into account
31:22
the White Sox and Mets in that equation.
31:26
But going back to your original point, I think this would be an
31:30
awesome event to go to. And I know we're kind of like,
31:32
we're like on the fence right now about like, you know, like
31:35
you kind of go to 1 All Star game.
31:37
You kind of get a feel for what it is, but I'm like Philly.
31:40
Next year. That's what I'm saying I I feel
31:43
like it'd be less about the the actual games that honestly,
31:47
honestly hear me. Out.
31:49
Hear me out after you of your after you're heard out, I have
31:53
to be heard out. Maybe we just make it a thing
31:58
moving forward where we don't even go.
32:00
Like we go, but we don't go. Does that make sense?
32:04
Like we're not purchasing tickets, but we.
32:07
Go for the. Go for the festivities, We do
32:09
our Wiffle ball derbies, we do our MVP series.
32:12
Walk around the village, Go to the village, get the content,
32:16
get the merch. I would go to Derby.
32:20
I would go to Derby and then stream All Star game.
32:25
I could get down with that little, little gentleman's
32:29
agreement. Maybe that's.
32:29
Just something there I was going to say for from my turn to be
32:33
heard out. Sure, if you're if you're
32:35
hearing, I'll hear. Yeah.
32:39
I think there's a good chance the Phillies are in the
32:41
postseason this year. Maybe we go to Philly knowing
32:48
that the WBC is next year. Skip Philly All Star game
32:53
because we've already been to Philly.
32:55
Yeah. Wrigley All Star game in 27
33:00
Homer Derby Homer Derby in 27 Stream All Star game go.
33:06
Hear me out, hear me out. I heard, I heard you.
33:09
I've you've been heard once. I've been heard once.
33:13
I can hear you again. Hear.
33:14
Me out again, Philly 2026. We can't.
33:21
What if? What if our sweet young Prince
33:23
is on a heater, agrees to do the Derby, and we miss out?
33:29
That would be that'd be catastrophic.
33:33
I mean, barring any injury, he's going to be in the Derby.
33:38
Was he one of the guys that said he wouldn't do it until it was
33:41
like? Was back in Philly.
33:43
Was did he say that? Yeah, yeah, that sounds like a
33:47
brace quote. I swear he said that.
33:51
If I was going to throw a Bryce quote out there, that'd be
33:54
that'd be the one, so. Because I did.
33:59
Did he say that about DCI? Feel like he almost said that
34:02
when he was in DC too. So maybe that's just like a home
34:05
ballpark, you know, do it for the people kind of thing.
34:09
I don't know, hard to say. What?
34:13
Hey, our our guys over beyond the bank want to want to want us
34:17
to let. I know, I know.
34:18
There's a, there's. Look, there's legitimate
34:20
dialogue being had. I sure, Kyle.
34:28
I, I, I think on my short list of things I want to witness in
34:34
the, in the very near near future.
34:36
And the reality of it is, I think we're running out of time.
34:39
Post season, Post season in the bank.
34:42
Specifically featuring a sweet young Prince Homer, preferably,
34:50
preferably like 6th inning or later that I mean, if I can get
34:54
that, I'm taking, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm framing that, that moment.
35:01
That's where I'm at. That's where I'm at.
35:04
I All Star games. Cool.
35:08
We saw how many other fans are there.
35:12
Atlanta was still loud for the Braves, but not post season
35:18
experience. You know what I mean?
35:21
So Philly Posey bear hands. You know, I kind of always the
35:29
also again. I would be, I would be amongst
35:32
my people and I think. He'd be well.
35:36
Adopted I I, I mean, I've already been adopted into the as
35:40
an honorary fan. I have, I have, I, I, you know,
35:46
Speaking of the Beyond the Bank podcast I had, I think there's
35:52
an undertone of, of 2009 that still sits in there.
36:02
I don't feel that way. I don't feel any animosity.
36:06
I expressed that on the on the podcast as well the Phillies
36:11
that I don't have any. I don't have any angst or
36:13
animosity. I think there's a little bit of
36:18
we don't love you guys back from O nine kind of conversation
36:22
going. So what I'm saying is I'm
36:25
willing to do a Phillies a Phillies postseason game.
36:31
What if what if one of our teams is in the postseason?
36:34
And what if we did a little jaunt this postseason?
36:40
That's be. That'd be a lot of legit.
36:42
Ideas. These are ideas.
36:44
Hey Handshake, That will at least will at least explore it.
36:49
That will not everything sticks to the wall, but things need to
36:51
be thrown at it, you know? And nothing says accountability
36:56
like throwing these ideas out on the pod.
36:58
So, you know, let's let's let's explore it.
37:02
Let's put a let's put a pin in that.
37:05
Speaking of Speaking of the Yankees, Nate Marcus Stroman
37:09
released. On Friday, take care what a.
37:13
What a. You know, I don't, I don't like
37:14
to rejoice in, you know, I, I, I don't, I don't take joy in
37:20
people losing their jobs, especially in this climate, you
37:23
know, like people losing their jobs.
37:25
That's a, that's a tough, that's a tough reality, especially in
37:30
this area, man. I mean, people are losing their
37:32
jobs out here left and right and it's, it sucks.
37:35
However, however. However, I wasn't, I mean I
37:43
wasn't disappointed. No disrespect, except sort of
37:48
little. Sprinkle little sprinkle
37:50
disrespect. Wasn't disappointed that Marcus
37:53
Stroman, you know, woke up Saturday and was no longer a
37:57
Yankee. He did, however, did you?
37:59
I don't know if he saw that post.
38:02
Of course. It was the no, I think it was
38:06
yes, where he was like, I give it, he said.
38:09
I give it two days before Marcus Strohman post something letting
38:12
us know that he's rich and is unbothered by this release and
38:16
it. Was like, he's got his feet up
38:17
on a private jet saying audience.
38:18
Got his watch. Got his watch.
38:20
I mean, on cue, that's Marcus Stroman.
38:24
That's the Marcus Stroman that we know.
38:26
And I give it this. This happened what?
38:28
Friday I give it by next I'll give it a week.
38:33
I'll give him a week. The the.
38:37
Bad bought into his new team. If he even ends up on a new
38:40
team. But I'll give it.
38:41
I'll give it till this coming Friday before you start hearing
38:45
you get it, you start getting these sound bites, these quotes,
38:48
these tweets from Stroman talking about how this guy, how
38:52
this guy ruined his life, how this trainer was unprofessional,
38:56
how ownership mishandled, mistreated, it's every time.
39:02
Why anybody would choose to bring this guy into their
39:06
clubhouse is so beyond me. I I am truly the loss for words.
39:12
It made sense with the Yankees because I'm like this is just
39:14
something that they would do whatever.
39:16
No disrespect, full disrespect actually, but anybody outside of
39:21
the Yankees, if you would choose to bring him in, you're you've
39:26
at this point in his career. You know exactly what you're
39:29
doing you. There is no excuse to to act as
39:32
if you that you're just going to be caught off guard by by these
39:35
antics and by this behavior after he gets let go crazy.
39:39
Marcus Stroman, you are an Atlanta Brave.
39:44
We've said that before. I feel like you and I have
39:47
we've, I think we've arrived at that point before in years past
39:50
where I'm like there's a team that likes a little bit, a
39:54
little bit of edge, a little bit of, you know, whatever it's.
39:58
The Braves, Yeah, you're, yeah, you're an Atlanta Brave that.
40:03
Tracks. Kind of kind of kind of force
40:09
yourself in a tough situation, you know, kind of back yourself
40:12
into a corner in the, in the, you know, offseason, in spring
40:16
training, when you're like, I'm a starter, I'm a starter, I'm a
40:18
starter. I'm not willing to do anything
40:20
else. It's like, brother, you throw
40:23
91. I think we maybe need to have a
40:28
conversation about you willing to do some middle of relief.
40:32
You know, I don't think you're I don't think you're really
40:36
dialing it up enough for six innings.
40:39
Yeah, a bet I will say a better 2025 season than I expected.
40:47
That says I have very. Low expectations, Yeah, I don't
40:49
know. Very, very low expectations.
40:53
Crazy. Then I'm going to go ahead and
40:56
say you're, you're probably right in the fact that we don't
41:00
know if another team's going to pick him up.
41:03
Somebody's obviously, obviously no one was willing to send a low
41:08
way prospect and some cash over at the deadline for him.
41:12
True or the offseason because they were shot they were they
41:15
they were anticipating a little bit of a log jam in terms of
41:17
rotation depth. They tried to shop him and.
41:20
No one was willing to do that so.
41:22
That's my that's my point is you have that happen in the
41:26
offseason and then have the year that he had maybe teams have
41:31
finally wised up and been like it's not worth it, it's not
41:34
worth it. No, just really not.
41:36
You're not. You're not.
41:37
It just it's. You're not that guy.
41:40
You're not that guy. Pal, not that guy.
41:43
Diss track with Mike Studd within six months.
41:48
Fellow Duke boy, Yeah, who's not a Duke boy, but could be
41:55
considered that guy. Aaron Judge report that he is
41:59
back next week. I don't want to spend this
42:01
entire podcast talking about the Yankees.
42:02
However you know relevant to. Me neither.
42:05
Current events, Well, you bring up a good point there with your
42:09
response, just in case you you miss it at the beginning.
42:14
I did. I did allude to the fact that
42:17
Yankees had quite the weekend this weekend.
42:20
First time in franchise history actually getting swept by the
42:22
Marlins. We've been doing interleague
42:26
play for how long? I'm not too worried about that.
42:31
Well, I. Mean there's there's context
42:34
involved there. Well, yeah, that they suck right
42:37
now, but that that's really the only context you need anyway.
42:40
Maybe the fact that Aaron Judge is coming back next week may
42:42
help. Apparently he's slated for or I
42:47
say next week, this coming week, slated to come back.
42:49
I I saw Tuesday, Wednesday, somewhere in that in that time
42:52
frame. Is that correct?
42:53
We'll see. Yeah, I guess.
42:54
Who knows? Who knows, there might be more
42:57
medical staff malpractice by before that point, so who knows.
43:01
It's probably in. DH for like a week and who
43:04
knows. That's a good point.
43:10
Good point in the chat. Marlins have been playing good
43:11
baseball though out of nowhere. Let's not let the Yankees off
43:14
the hook. I mean, at the end of the day,
43:15
it's still the Marlins. Speaking of bad baseball, the
43:19
Rockies and the Pirates had a game scored. 400 runs this this
43:24
weekend. 671 runs on Friday alone, and that was only like an
43:31
eighth inning. No, but the the Rockies, I
43:39
think, yeah, Rockies took it 1716.
43:42
This was after going down nine runs.
43:49
Apparently the all the damage, like the majority of the damage,
43:51
happened in the first they had. There was a Grand Slam O'Neill
43:54
Cruz Grand Slam and McCutcheon 3 run Homer and then they hold on.
44:04
I've got OK. So Colorado scored one run in
44:07
the bottom of the first, three in the third, two in the fourth
44:10
and four in the 5th to cut Pittsburgh's lead to 15 to 10.
44:14
The Rockies trailed 16 to 10 before scoring two runs in the
44:17
eighth and five in the ninth. Insane, insane.
44:26
Coors Field, baby, you never know.
44:28
Well, I mean, how many games we played in Coors Field?
44:31
This game, this game doesn't happen every day.
44:38
Too bad teams. Too bad teams, too bad
44:44
situations for Emmanuel Class A and Luis Ortiz.
44:49
Their lockers have been cleared out.
44:50
We were talking about it yesterday.
44:53
Don't think there's been an instance where lockers have been
44:56
cleared out and player. Somebody correct me if I'm
44:58
wrong. I'm I'm just completely
45:01
guessing. I have done 0 research on this
45:03
matter, but I'm guessing that there's.
45:05
Shooting from the hip. Shooting from the hip.
45:08
Guessing that there's zero instances of a locker being
45:11
cleared out and A and said player returning later that
45:14
year, especially with only two months left in the season.
45:17
So safe to say those two guys are done.
45:20
I'm seeing speculation that they may not even did they?
45:24
People are like I'm seeing reports that are like they may
45:26
not even play Major League Baseball.
45:27
Again, that's wild to me. I saw something that the Luis
45:32
Ortiz investigation has been going back to last year.
45:40
I will never. Understand.
45:41
I can't believe everything on social media.
45:43
No, of course not quote and quote Abraham Lincoln, but
45:48
that's interesting. Right, And you know, like I
45:54
understand how how pervasive sports betting is now.
45:58
I've been saying since since it started becoming legal and and
46:02
becoming promoted by major. League Baseball, right?
46:05
This announcement is brought to you by DraftKings.
46:07
This is, this is not smart. Like I, I know people love their
46:11
gambling, but like this is, this is not going to have a good
46:13
outcome. And I'm not saying that's solely
46:16
the reason these things are happening, but you can't, let's
46:18
not pretend like this, this has no impact or influence on what's
46:21
happening with some of these guys.
46:22
Like the fact that it's just in your face constantly.
46:24
I'm going to go ahead and say that has something to do with
46:26
it. With that said though, I
46:30
understand how how pervasive it is, like I was saying.
46:32
However, what I don't understand is how some of these guys make
46:39
the decisions that they do to place themselves in the
46:41
situation that they do given the money they make.
46:45
Yeah. Is this just a situation of like
46:47
trying to double down, push the envelope?
46:50
A little bit, do you? Need it?
46:51
I don't think so. Do you need it?
46:55
You know, I don't think I do. What did they make this year?
47:04
What? League minimum is $700,000.
47:11
No league. The league minimum's bumped up
47:13
now, wasn't it? I thought it was like 77750 now.
47:19
Emmanuel Cose signed A5 year, five year $20 million contract.
47:28
BRO is not hurting for money. We.
47:31
Need we need a We need a first pitch ball prop.
47:36
Yeah, that's tough. Payout. 740 league minimum.
47:44
Dog. I don't get it.
47:49
I don't get it. Ortiz.
47:51
Yeah. Ortiz, Yeah.
47:52
League minimum. And like it still, I'm not, I'm
47:56
not trying to bring like a, a weird argument to this, but
48:00
like, especially where they're from, like like if we're just
48:06
going to talk flat out, these guys are from some horrible
48:10
situations in 3rd world countries where they have family
48:15
members in neighborhoods that are like relying on them.
48:23
Like what are we doing? This is you're living the dream.
48:28
You're living the dream and you're throwing it away for
48:31
this. It's tough, man.
48:35
Look, Luis Ortiz, I didn't rock the boat that much Class A saves
48:44
leader last year. Oh it was he finished what,
48:47
second? Second in the Cy Young voting
48:50
like 2 years ago? Or was it last still?
48:54
Like what are we talking like decisions, decisions are being
48:58
made? Doing that are like destroying
49:02
careers that it it blows my mind I.
49:05
What? I understand I'm not in these
49:07
situations, so it's easy for me to sit back, but I'm like I, I,
49:11
I have to imagine that I, I wouldn't be enticed by fixing a
49:18
bet when I'm making that kind of money.
49:21
I don't know, whatever maybe and easy for me to say, I guess I.
49:25
Suppose. I suppose last thing here, we
49:28
got the the entrance. The entrance for Duran made its
49:40
way from Minnesota to Philly. And I have to say, I hadn't
49:47
considered that that taking place in October was a
49:53
possibility until like yesterday.
49:56
And I'm very much excited for that possibility.
50:01
Hot take, I'm out on entrances. Are they watered?
50:09
Have we gotten to the point where they're watered down to
50:12
the point that like some guys have them that shouldn't?
50:14
Yes. But we've been saying that for
50:16
some time now. So I've just, I've, I've chosen
50:19
to focus on the positives and appreciate the ones that I think
50:24
are deserving and are of high quality.
50:27
And I think this is one of those cases because he is very good at
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what he does and the entrance is also very good.
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I'm going on the negative here. I'm not surprised.
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I woke up early this morning, I got a headache.
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I didn't have enough water today.
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I'm feeling negative. I'm out on entrances.
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Maybe don't need a glass of water.
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I just don't need them, they're not that good.
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I mean, this is coming. Threshold of the amount of saves
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you need to have in your career There's.
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A literal guy on your wall behind you.
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That had that is the best entrance.
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If not the best entrance in all of baseball, and you're telling
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me that you don't, you don't need entrances.
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That's the last one that should have been had until you're
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starting to stir up that conversation.
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Until you're the greatest closer of all time, you can't have you
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can't have an entrance. I need you over.
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I need you over 150 saves in your career.
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Before you get the entrance, get Rob on the horn. 150 to 200.
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That's where I'll put you at. That's the threshold for me.
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Otherwise, just jog in like every other pitcher.
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It's nice you got your music on. It's.
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Less about it's fine. It's less about the pitcher and
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more about the fans. That's that's fine, that's
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obvious. That's fine, that's fine.
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Just do it for every 9th inning then.
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But hey, I I'll hear you out. I've heard, I've heard your
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take. Your take has been heard.
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It's been received. Thank you.
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That's all we got. Let's.
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Is your is your time at the beach today done or are you
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going back? Nope, it's over.
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It's it's going to be time to to grub out here in just a minute,
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so. Are you walking distance to the
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beach? Yeah, dude, we're.
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Are you on the beach? No, but this is the closest
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we've ever been and it's fantastic.
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Do you have sand everywhere? Not yet, but probably in a
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couple. Just got there yesterday,
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Friday, yeah. Yesterday.
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For a week. For a week.
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A lot of sand. Potential for a lot of sand.
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Good boardwalk ice cream? Is that in the?
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Is that in the cards? Ice cream is in the cards.
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Big. We're big, big cookout tradition
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down here. We we make our make our visits
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to cookout for for some shakes. So what's that cherry wine?
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Is that what it is? Cheer wine.
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That's the solar wine. But that's not a shake.
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That's not a shake, no. All right, good stuff.
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Well, good luck with that. I'm going to go get in the pool.
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Good luck with that, Sir. Read the hat.
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Don't go chasing curveballs. We love you all and as always,
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looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
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Until next time, stay filthy.