Latest / Reality with The King / Pinky’s Got Beef: RHOA Recap with Dustin Ross, Claudia Jordan, and Blue Telusma
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Before we get into the Real Housewives of Atlanta recap,
- 0:42Speaker 2: we have to do a round them applause to Angel
- 0:46Speaker 2: Massey formerly the Real Housewives of Prtomac who has a
- 0:52Speaker 2: news show, My screaming go frozen because I have to
- 0:57Speaker 2: read the contents of this now.
- 1:00Speaker 3: So if I'm frozen, Bear West, Yes, I do. Okay.
- 1:06Speaker 2: The show is called House of Ease, which is a
- 1:10Speaker 2: show about home healing over and the way we create
- 1:16Speaker 2: a sense of a place.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Angel Matthew announced that she is so.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Happy to Homeworthy for trusting her vision and bringing the
- 1:24Speaker 2: show to life.
- 1:25Speaker 3: In addition to Color Creative, which is Easter Ray's.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Company, and the show is called House of Ease and
- 1:32Speaker 2: it will be available on home Worthy Dustin Ross, you
- 1:37Speaker 2: were taxed along with me and the crew since this
- 1:41Speaker 2: was announced yesterday because you told Claudia.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Blue and Eye that you wanted to see a show.
- 1:49Speaker 4: This is your fault money, this is your fault friend.
- 1:56Speaker 3: I would like for you to do the honors.
- 1:58Speaker 2: First of all, I want to say a math congratulations.
- 2:01Speaker 2: But Dustin Rol, you wanted this type of show.
- 2:05Speaker 3: And it has a arrived. What are your thoughts?
- 2:09Speaker 2: And your angel Massy boys.
- 2:14Speaker 5: Put my hand in my pocket like she has.
- 2:18Speaker 6: Mm hmm, much like it was that little Boosy's daughter,
- 2:22Speaker 6: a thug thug's daughter that got out of jail when
- 2:25Speaker 6: he got out of jel.
- 2:26Speaker 2: She was, like I told John Niggas, I told John.
- 2:32Speaker 6: Niggas, I told y'all, number one Angel never worked on
- 2:37Speaker 6: an ensemble cast because she doesn't have the personality that
- 2:40Speaker 6: it requires for that formula.
- 2:43Speaker 5: Right boom. Not a strike against her.
- 2:46Speaker 6: I was clear about that from day one in my
- 2:49Speaker 6: commentary on her. There were other things that were for
- 2:52Speaker 6: her and just like I said, she didn't land it
- 2:55Speaker 6: over on Homeworthy. Now, this is not the show that
- 2:57Speaker 6: I envisioned for her, but it's a show that works
- 3:00Speaker 6: for her. Nonetheless, that's a black woman working with a
- 3:03Speaker 6: beautiful black family.
- 3:05Speaker 5: Good for her, Good for Angel.
- 3:07Speaker 6: My commentary on her was connected to her performance on Housewives.
- 3:10Speaker 5: Y'all know one thing about d Ross.
- 3:12Speaker 6: I ain't no motherfucking hater, you know what I'm saying
- 3:15Speaker 6: at all, And I believe it's a place for everybody.
- 3:17Speaker 6: It never was personal for me, so I don't want
- 3:20Speaker 6: to see her fail. I'm happy that black woman got
- 3:23Speaker 6: a job on television that's gonna make her happy, and
- 3:26Speaker 6: they don't involve nobody else to get on her nerves
- 3:28Speaker 6: because the show is about ease, and so she may
- 3:32Speaker 6: she find that and may she keep that.
- 3:34Speaker 5: Good for you, Angel, Yes, you're watching Claudia, you're watching
- 3:39Speaker 5: dou y'all watching.
- 3:41Speaker 6: Honestly, y'all gonna support the way y'all just talked all
- 3:44Speaker 6: that shit about loving hip hop ending, y'all gonna support
- 3:47Speaker 6: Angel show on homeworthy, y'all gonna watch.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Okay, so what's homeworthy? But I'll find it because I
- 3:53Speaker 4: struggle with sleeping, so.
- 3:58Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
- 4:00Speaker 5: Well Cardi B said, putting us to be.
- 4:06Speaker 7: I have ADHD, so sometimes I have to take a
- 4:09Speaker 7: small dough some adderall. But then when you take adderall,
- 4:12Speaker 7: especially the slow releasing. I find myself. It doesn't like
- 4:15Speaker 7: early in the day, I'm like still tired, and then
- 4:17Speaker 7: three four, five o'clock in the morning, then I am
- 4:20Speaker 7: struggling up wide awake sending y'all memes at all hours.
- 4:24Speaker 7: So again, we cannot be hypocrites here and doesn't thank
- 4:28Speaker 7: you for putting us on blasts like that. We cannot,
- 4:30Speaker 7: So I want you to have the job. I think
- 4:32Speaker 7: that she would be great. I think this will be
- 4:35Speaker 7: great to help and sleep aid people with ADHD, people
- 4:41Speaker 7: that are just have trouble getting to sleep, because she
- 4:44Speaker 7: has a very soothing voice. She definitely has a really
- 4:47Speaker 7: soothing voice. Where when I was watching the promo, I
- 4:50Speaker 7: think it was a one minute long I didn't really
- 4:53Speaker 7: do a good job my makeup because I fell asleep
- 4:55Speaker 7: doing my makeup when I was listening to it. So
- 4:57Speaker 7: but I'm happy for her because she does not belong
- 4:59Speaker 7: on Potomac. But there's a place for everyone, and I'm
- 5:02Speaker 7: happy for er. I mean, I'm happy for angel.
- 5:06Speaker 4: I am.
- 5:07Speaker 7: I think I'm glad because she she they were putting
- 5:10Speaker 7: her through it on that show and it wasn't fun
- 5:11Speaker 7: to see her getting bullied, So I think that's good
- 5:13Speaker 7: for her.
- 5:14Speaker 4: And it's like all that h HG TV set.
- 5:17Speaker 7: That's like, Oh, I'm going today, I'm going to make
- 5:20Speaker 7: a We're gonna crochet.
- 5:21Speaker 5: I like all that. I watched that, so I'm happy.
- 5:25Speaker 4: That's cute. Good for her, listen less stressful.
- 5:29Speaker 7: She doesn't have to buy that house in Maryland or
- 5:31Speaker 7: Potomacs like they were talking about getting.
- 5:33Speaker 4: She can stay in Colorado and the bomb ass house
- 5:36Speaker 4: she got. It's a win win situation. I kind of
- 5:40Speaker 4: want her to come back, though. Honestly, Oh girl Blue
- 5:44Speaker 4: to loose Man.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Are you watching? What are your thoughts on the new
- 5:48Speaker 2: show that inga MASSI is on?
- 5:52Speaker 7: Sure we got another hater in the chat I have
- 5:58Speaker 7: to go off on in a second.
- 6:00Speaker 8: Scared for you run look good for her? And yeah,
- 6:06Speaker 8: good for her.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Uh.
- 6:08Speaker 9: The thing about Angel is I think Mercurial Mountain was
- 6:11Speaker 9: a better idea. I really wish that we had gotten
- 6:14Speaker 9: my Cure Mountain. I think Justin's idea. See I just
- 6:17Speaker 9: called you Justin for the first time.
- 6:22Speaker 5: Third album.
- 6:23Speaker 6: That's a different means, so I'll get it.
- 6:28Speaker 9: No, honestly, I won't be watching. However, good for her.
- 6:30Speaker 9: There's a lot of things that I wish well that
- 6:32Speaker 9: I won't be watching. I do watch all the homes.
- 6:35Speaker 9: But to Claudius, for here's the thing. If the promo
- 6:39Speaker 9: was entertaining, I actually would have watched.
- 6:42Speaker 4: The promo was low energy.
- 6:44Speaker 9: Yeah, I got tired watching the promo. I felt like charity, like,
- 6:46Speaker 9: you know, feed the kids for twenty five cents. You
- 6:48Speaker 9: two can help an angel stay relevant.
- 6:50Speaker 7: They could recut it with more like they need to
- 6:53Speaker 7: get like the Erica Kirk fireworks.
- 6:55Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like.
- 6:58Speaker 6: Started on her motherfucking uh crazy. Just don't get me
- 7:02Speaker 6: started on her. I'm gonna try to be good tonight.
- 7:05Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean she's not Ka Kirk. So I'll say
- 7:06Speaker 9: that Angel is not Orka kurk Son. Look that something positive.
- 7:09Speaker 9: I'm just I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan.
- 7:12Speaker 9: I'm not a fan.
- 7:13Speaker 5: And also, looking at she looked like she was in cats.
- 7:17Speaker 5: Oh my god, she did she do? She looked like
- 7:20Speaker 5: she was my cavity. You know what I'm saying. Anyway,
- 7:24Speaker 5: I like entertainment.
- 7:25Speaker 9: I will hate watch things that are entertaining. I don't
- 7:27Speaker 9: find her entertaining.
- 7:28Speaker 6: So this is not about me not looking which is
- 7:31Speaker 6: a fair take, very fair, both fair people who.
- 7:37Speaker 8: I don't like her entertaining get my time.
- 7:39Speaker 9: You're boring and I don't like you, so you you
- 7:41Speaker 9: have to pick a loss, like you can't lose twice
- 7:43Speaker 9: with me? Right, So I'm not the audience for this
- 7:45Speaker 9: because I like, you know, to be Justin maner.
- 7:51Speaker 8: He did.
- 7:51Speaker 9: I still think you owe him a fruit basket, a
- 7:53Speaker 9: check something, because I don't think you have this without him.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Maybe Dason can geest host on the show with her,
- 7:59Speaker 4: and he can.
- 7:59Speaker 6: Do you think I would you think I wouldn't slide
- 8:03Speaker 6: my hand in my pocket and tip my hat to
- 8:05Speaker 6: make amends I show because it was never personally.
- 8:08Speaker 5: I always wanted her to have success.
- 8:10Speaker 6: She just got on my fucking nerves on the show,
- 8:12Speaker 6: saying shit like mercurio, you know, like yeah, but there
- 8:16Speaker 6: was another space for her again I say it again.
- 8:20Speaker 6: Black family, richest fuck out in Colorado, running that outfitter.
- 8:24Speaker 6: That can be interesting if you put the right people
- 8:27Speaker 6: on the property.
- 8:28Speaker 5: Okay, that's a show.
- 8:30Speaker 6: But if this show works for her, good great, another
- 8:33Speaker 6: black person taking up space on homeworthy.
- 8:36Speaker 5: We just got through.
- 8:37Speaker 6: Talking about how with the Ellison family, y'all know what
- 8:40Speaker 6: time it is, and you know what, this is bigger
- 8:42Speaker 6: than just a bunch of bullshit to scarf at. And again,
- 8:45Speaker 6: I personally feel like us trashing another opportunity for her
- 8:49Speaker 6: is so hypocritical because our critique of her was, and
- 8:52Speaker 6: I could speak for all of us on this panel,
- 8:54Speaker 6: our critique of her was rooted in what we saw
- 8:57Speaker 6: of her on Housewives.
- 8:58Speaker 5: That's it.
- 8:59Speaker 6: That's where it's started and stopped. It wasn't about us
- 9:03Speaker 6: not wanting to see this woman have any success in life,
- 9:06Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like, that wasn't what the
- 9:08Speaker 6: set was. It was about Yo, she's not interested on
- 9:11Speaker 6: Housewives of Potmac do something else else, So let her
- 9:16Speaker 6: do something else. I'm happy for her, good for her
- 9:18Speaker 6: and her family.
- 9:19Speaker 9: I wish it was just interesting. Honestly, I think for me,
- 9:22Speaker 9: the minute Angel becomes interesting, I will come here and
- 9:25Speaker 9: eat crow. I'm just waiting still.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Well, it will be on Homeworthy very soon.
- 9:31Speaker 5: And I was right.
- 9:35Speaker 4: Isn't an app download, it's homeworks YouTube.
- 9:39Speaker 3: It's on YouTube. And what will do to support Angel?
- 9:42Speaker 3: We will recap the first episode?
- 9:44Speaker 9: Quit who's recapping the first right?
- 9:52Speaker 8: Drop?
- 9:54Speaker 4: I don't have an attentive.
- 9:55Speaker 8: No, I'm medicated.
- 9:59Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's a thirty minute episode, so.
- 10:04Speaker 8: Harlows I couldn't watch the sect sixty second promo.
- 10:08Speaker 7: Right now, y'all, added Birmingham Love Marriage Hunts, Bill Bells, Real.
- 10:14Speaker 4: Wilfus of Atlanta. You're killing me, Larry.
- 10:18Speaker 8: You should do it. I think should be tribute. I
- 10:20Speaker 8: think Dust should review.
- 10:23Speaker 5: I'll do it. I'm down. I volunteer myself. I will
- 10:26Speaker 5: definitely do it.
- 10:28Speaker 7: The rain drafts that we were volting right now vaulted
- 10:32Speaker 7: about to strike.
- 10:34Speaker 3: I want to see the comments, lul look, bring the comments,
- 10:36Speaker 3: rain drops. Let me know if you.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Would like for the Monday Night Live crew to recap
- 10:41Speaker 2: the first episode of Angel Masthy's Shop.
- 10:50Speaker 7: Okay, fine, it's the bad economy.
- 10:54Speaker 3: Not next topic. You got.
- 10:59Speaker 6: God, she said her name was casual Music or something
- 11:04Speaker 6: that means she do music.
- 11:05Speaker 5: What if we skip your song?
- 11:07Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 11:12Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna be hypocritical support black women. So
- 11:16Speaker 7: if we have to, If you want us to review
- 11:19Speaker 7: the show, then god damn it, we're gonna review the
- 11:21Speaker 7: show and we're gonna be doing damn good job of it.
- 11:24Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Okay, all right, as we'll get back to.
- 11:30Speaker 2: You with our recap of the first episode, because we
- 11:33Speaker 2: are going to support this show.
- 11:35Speaker 5: Now.
- 11:36Speaker 3: One thing we are going to support is this.
- 11:39Speaker 10: Incredible episode of The Royal Housewives of Atlanta are in
- 11:48Speaker 10: Dallas and it was giving a diamonsty thing shout out
- 11:53Speaker 10: to one of the best staple friend.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Of Cynthia Bailey.
- 11:58Speaker 5: Hell yeah.
- 12:00Speaker 2: She opened up the episode with Adrian mloof okay, who
- 12:06Speaker 2: is the real five of Beverly Hills, and look, Cynthia
- 12:13Speaker 2: is a part of a tequila line that Adrian maloof
- 12:18Speaker 2: I believe part owns, if not one hundred percent owns it.
- 12:23Speaker 2: And there is something happening in Dallas where Cynthia has
- 12:28Speaker 2: decided to invite the girls. So kicking things off, the
- 12:34Speaker 2: girls are on a PJ okay and they're all looking
- 12:39Speaker 2: fabulous and in this moment we're learning more about the
- 12:44Speaker 2: dynamic between the ladies. I want to kick things off
- 12:48Speaker 2: with your thoughts Blue when it comes to the ky
- 12:54Speaker 2: Michelle Drew Black of it all because as Drew was
- 12:59Speaker 2: in form I mean Porsche about her date with Black,
- 13:04Speaker 2: Drew looked at Cay Michelle and said, you know him,
- 13:07Speaker 2: that's your friend, and cay Michelle said, I don't know
- 13:11Speaker 2: that man, and then they flashed back to cay Michelle
- 13:14Speaker 2: telling Porsche that black was in her d MS that
- 13:19Speaker 2: she never responded to. Is cay Michelle accurate because just
- 13:24Speaker 2: because somebody is in your DMS, does that mean you
- 13:28Speaker 2: actually know?
- 13:28Speaker 5: Though?
- 13:29Speaker 9: Well, for the don black viewers who are watching, when
- 13:33Speaker 9: a black person says you know your little friend, that's
- 13:35Speaker 9: not your friend, that's not how we use it when
- 13:37Speaker 9: we say your friend. So if somebody you can't stand with,
- 13:39Speaker 9: somebody you don't know, somebody who you think a question
- 13:42Speaker 9: like dig on your friend that's not your friend. I
- 13:44Speaker 9: think I'm gonna throw Drew some bail where she might
- 13:47Speaker 9: have overspoke because Drew's is a provocateur naturally.
- 13:51Speaker 8: I think she's just naturally a provocative girl.
- 13:53Speaker 9: But Ca Michelle for me this entire episode and we'll
- 13:56Speaker 9: get more into later on. In the episode, she seemed
- 13:58Speaker 9: off her game, like if I felt like she felt nervous.
- 14:03Speaker 9: She had never been on a girls trip before, and
- 14:05Speaker 9: I think her nerves got the best of her. I
- 14:09Speaker 9: also think that there's a familiarity. Drew can be over
- 14:12Speaker 9: familiar sometimes and Ky Michelle is very cautious. That's a
- 14:15Speaker 9: very bad combination.
- 14:17Speaker 8: So I can.
- 14:17Speaker 9: Already see why they're not a good duo. I do
- 14:21Speaker 9: think the whole black thing was overstated. Though you were
- 14:23Speaker 9: being friendly, she overstated the relationship. You could have just
- 14:26Speaker 9: liked to like girls, not my friend. He just was
- 14:27Speaker 9: in my da I mean, like, you could have made
- 14:28Speaker 9: it whatever. But that was the first time I was like, Ooh,
- 14:30Speaker 9: I don't think ky Michelle's here to have fun, Like
- 14:32Speaker 9: I'm worried that she's not here to kei key.
- 14:34Speaker 8: With the girls.
- 14:35Speaker 9: And I think Picky also talking about her bankruptcy, which
- 14:38Speaker 9: I've already been on the record and said, I love
- 14:40Speaker 9: that Pinky is so honest about her business and her acumen.
- 14:44Speaker 8: And even oh my.
- 14:46Speaker 9: God, I forgot the young lady's name, the girl who
- 14:48Speaker 9: wants to sell peaches with no peaches.
- 14:50Speaker 8: Huh not Kelly, Yes, peaches with no peaches. That's gonna work.
- 14:55Speaker 8: Even she was like, oh, listen to all these girls
- 14:57Speaker 8: talk about bankruptcy. Up starting to feel like maybe I
- 14:58Speaker 8: should have some business acumen.
- 15:00Speaker 9: And I think the PJ conversation was very intimate and
- 15:03Speaker 9: very like so bearing in a way that came a
- 15:06Speaker 9: show was not prepared for and that that comment from Drew.
- 15:10Speaker 8: Just showed how skitti she was.
- 15:12Speaker 9: But I don't think that Drew did anything that warranted
- 15:15Speaker 9: her being so, you know, she could have just laughed
- 15:17Speaker 9: it off.
- 15:18Speaker 8: I'm actually seeing Drew on this, even though Drew spoke.
- 15:22Speaker 3: Claudia.
- 15:25Speaker 4: Let me tell you about Black. Everybody know Black. I've
- 15:28Speaker 4: talked to Black, okay, and we did not date.
- 15:31Speaker 7: He was very much pushing that hookah line, which is
- 15:35Speaker 7: so dope. I love first of all, Black Smoke, those
- 15:38Speaker 7: little hooka things.
- 15:40Speaker 8: Bomb, I have those. He's behind Black Smoke.
- 15:42Speaker 4: That's his company, Okay on little black Smoke, Okay, okay,
- 15:51Speaker 4: doesn't mean anything.
- 15:53Speaker 7: I think that when he was getting his business up
- 15:55Speaker 7: and running during COVID, he was reaching out to a
- 15:58Speaker 7: lot of personalities, people that are very uh you know
- 16:01Speaker 7: that I have uh, you know, followers on social media,
- 16:04Speaker 7: and he being with someone like Black is kind of
- 16:07Speaker 7: like being with the club promoter. They gotta they have
- 16:09Speaker 7: anyone's numbers. They send you product. They trying to push
- 16:11Speaker 7: a product, and it was very successful. Himitate my Braxton
- 16:14Speaker 7: are really good friends. Like she's posted photos in front
- 16:17Speaker 7: of his bomb at place in La he got, he
- 16:19Speaker 7: got bread.
- 16:20Speaker 3: I do think, may I ask what does for a living?
- 16:25Speaker 8: What is he what?
- 16:26Speaker 3: What does he do for a living?
- 16:27Speaker 4: So he owns a company which is like a platable hookah.
- 16:30Speaker 7: It's like a battery powered hookah. That's like it's like
- 16:33Speaker 7: in a black and white packaging. It's called black Smoke,
- 16:37Speaker 7: and it's made it's it's way.
- 16:39Speaker 4: More healthy for you. It's not nicotine.
- 16:41Speaker 3: It tastes great.
- 16:42Speaker 7: It tastes really good, really good, like if it says
- 16:44Speaker 7: peach is gonna taste like peach.
- 16:45Speaker 5: Every wildly successful.
- 16:47Speaker 6: He's made millions and millions and millions of dollars selling it.
- 16:50Speaker 5: He set records.
- 16:51Speaker 6: Think like how Stormy has had the success with Canvas Beauty.
- 16:55Speaker 6: It's it mimics that his success with Black Smoke mimics
- 16:59Speaker 6: you know that was him?
- 17:00Speaker 5: Oh my god.
- 17:01Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's the company. So I could see him
- 17:04Speaker 7: getting in Camshell's DMS. It's I don't think there was
- 17:06Speaker 7: a big deal about it.
- 17:07Speaker 4: I can see that. What was your question outside of that?
- 17:11Speaker 3: No, no, no, so not. It was really just that
- 17:12Speaker 3: just in.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Terms of the dynamic between Drew and came Michelle because
- 17:18Speaker 2: spoiler alert, just based on what we've seen in interviews
- 17:23Speaker 2: Drew and Came Michelle get into it, and from my understanding,
- 17:31Speaker 2: this was the start of it and there's more to
- 17:35Speaker 2: come when it comes to Black came Michelle and Drew.
- 17:39Speaker 7: So during when they came in Dallas, both Cynthia and
- 17:42Speaker 7: Drew him me up and Drew wanted me to come
- 17:43Speaker 7: by and do some stuff, but I was working on
- 17:45Speaker 7: one of my two B films, Shots to Black Directors
- 17:48Speaker 7: in LA was going down and I couldn't make it back.
- 17:50Speaker 4: But Drew did hit me and so that she she
- 17:52Speaker 4: without telling me what we're down, because I don't.
- 17:55Speaker 7: She just said it got real crazy, like it got
- 17:58Speaker 7: really really really battened out. So apparently whatever we're gonna
- 18:02Speaker 7: see next week is gonna be ten times worse than
- 18:04Speaker 7: when it was like this was just like nothing apparent
- 18:05Speaker 7: to that would happen.
- 18:08Speaker 4: I just hated it because I feel like Drew was
- 18:09Speaker 4: an easy target.
- 18:10Speaker 5: I really do.
- 18:12Speaker 7: I do, like, I don't know, Drew, don't bother me
- 18:14Speaker 7: like that, And the same because I'm friends, I'm cool
- 18:16Speaker 7: with her or whatever. I don't talk to Drew like that,
- 18:18Speaker 7: like honestly, our relationship is not like that. But I
- 18:21Speaker 7: just feel like there's a lot of worse things you
- 18:24Speaker 7: could be on that show than.
- 18:26Speaker 3: Drew store Dustin.
- 18:29Speaker 5: Yeah, so fuck this scene.
- 18:31Speaker 6: Let's have the Kym Michelle conversation, right, because I think
- 18:35Speaker 6: that this scene speaks to that, which is the bigger
- 18:37Speaker 6: conversation that needs to be had had rather, ky Michelle
- 18:41Speaker 6: is struggling in.
- 18:43Speaker 5: Connecting with the cast when it's not about her.
- 18:46Speaker 6: When they're having conversations and she's talking about her her
- 18:50Speaker 6: country music career, you know that she shigns when she's
- 18:54Speaker 6: talking about that, When she's talking about her health challenges
- 18:58Speaker 6: and the things that she's faced so on, like the
- 19:00Speaker 6: butt Injexson's.
- 19:01Speaker 5: And all that stuff.
- 19:02Speaker 6: It's gripping and it's interesting because it's raw and it's real,
- 19:05Speaker 6: but it's also about her. We've seen her shine in
- 19:10Speaker 6: conflict during her love and hip hop days. We see
- 19:12Speaker 6: her on Twitter raising hell, so we know that she
- 19:14Speaker 6: thrives in conflict.
- 19:16Speaker 5: Where she's struggling.
- 19:18Speaker 6: It's connecting and just finding comfort being a member of
- 19:22Speaker 6: an ensemble cast on the show like this, where it's
- 19:25Speaker 6: not conflict driven as blatantly as it is on a
- 19:30Speaker 6: show like what she may have previously been on and
- 19:33Speaker 6: so you can see it in her fashion choices. She
- 19:36Speaker 6: had on a beautiful red and white, you know, striped
- 19:38Speaker 6: shirt and khakis, you know, and really calm hair choices
- 19:44Speaker 6: and stuff like.
- 19:45Speaker 5: You can tell she's.
- 19:45Speaker 6: Trying to find her place in this slower paced environment.
- 19:50Speaker 6: But there's challenges there that are surfacing that make her withdrawn,
- 19:54Speaker 6: so to speak. Why what wasn't she comfortable coming to
- 19:58Speaker 6: dinner just a few steps away without going through full
- 20:02Speaker 6: glam again after she had gone through full glam for
- 20:04Speaker 6: the travel.
- 20:05Speaker 5: To the destination? Right?
- 20:07Speaker 6: Why was she not not comfortable even showing up in
- 20:11Speaker 6: full glam? I think it speaks to a bigger issue,
- 20:14Speaker 6: which is her finding comfort on this cast. And maybe
- 20:18Speaker 6: it's not a good thing. Maybe it's not a bad thing.
- 20:20Speaker 6: We really have yet to see. It's something we'll only
- 20:22Speaker 6: be able to tell with time. But there's an issue there,
- 20:26Speaker 6: and I don't want it to be rooted in narcissism, right,
- 20:32Speaker 6: that's my fear. I don't want to look at it
- 20:35Speaker 6: as kamichelles and narcissist. And she's only you know, happy
- 20:39Speaker 6: in scenes where it's about her and thriving about and
- 20:41Speaker 6: the conversation is about her. I don't believe that that's
- 20:44Speaker 6: what it is, right, But it's very easy to assume
- 20:47Speaker 6: that when she pipes up the minute you talk about
- 20:51Speaker 6: something that she is the center of. But I don't
- 20:55Speaker 6: think it's that. I don't think it's narcissism. I think
- 20:57Speaker 6: it's rooted in her just not being comfortable. It's no
- 21:00Speaker 6: secret that she didn't have the best relationships with her
- 21:02Speaker 6: cast members in previous situations she was in, and that's
- 21:06Speaker 6: not just relative to her experience on Love and Hip Hop.
- 21:10Speaker 6: Even on her solo show, Came Michelle, her solo show
- 21:13Speaker 6: on VH one, she was in conflict with the cast members.
- 21:17Speaker 6: She found out one of her day one people were
- 21:18Speaker 6: stealing from her. She was in conflict with a woman
- 21:21Speaker 6: that she was dating on and off on a show
- 21:23Speaker 6: like it was rooted in conflict. So I want to
- 21:26Speaker 6: see Cay Michelle just take a deep breath, maybe go
- 21:29Speaker 6: out to Angel Massey's.
- 21:30Speaker 5: I don't know, you know what I'm saying, but I
- 21:33Speaker 5: want to see.
- 21:33Speaker 6: Her find her trees, some wellness, take a deep breath,
- 21:37Speaker 6: and then join the cast. From that perspective where we
- 21:41Speaker 6: can really find out who came Michelle is outside of
- 21:44Speaker 6: the Rye rad shit and outside of the lights of
- 21:46Speaker 6: the big stage.
- 21:47Speaker 5: So that's my piece.
- 21:50Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
- 21:57Speaker 4: I feel like she has.
- 21:58Speaker 7: Two speeds right yeah and off and like nothing in
- 22:03Speaker 7: the middle. And I know I have gone on the
- 22:07Speaker 7: record saying I think she's gonna be star of the show.
- 22:10Speaker 7: We're gonna to see them pivoting from this week because
- 22:13Speaker 7: I agree with you, Gusta, and I did feel like
- 22:15Speaker 7: she was uncomfortable in certain scenes. And you know, I
- 22:17Speaker 7: think sometimes people come on to sell a show like
- 22:19Speaker 7: that when they have like they're successful in other areas.
- 22:23Speaker 7: They come in like maybe people are gassing them, like yo,
- 22:25Speaker 7: you're about to run this shit. You about to be
- 22:27Speaker 7: the new needy leaks on the show. Maybe she felt
- 22:29Speaker 7: that way. I don't know, but I do feel like.
- 22:34Speaker 4: I didn't like this episode that much for her, as
- 22:36Speaker 4: like I liked last week.
- 22:38Speaker 9: I don't think it's so I love that dog that'son
- 22:40Speaker 9: said that he doesn't want to assume it's narcissism. What
- 22:43Speaker 9: I'm thinking from is something else.
- 22:45Speaker 8: I picked up fear.
- 22:47Speaker 9: I think she's a fear of intimacy. I don't think
- 22:49Speaker 9: it's narcissism or them gassing her. I think that she
- 22:54Speaker 9: started off and I'll never forget this. We talked about
- 22:56Speaker 9: the first episode, right and how she didn't really get
- 22:58Speaker 9: a proper package and everything. One of the first things
- 23:00Speaker 9: that she started off with is the women in Atlanta
- 23:03Speaker 9: have treated me horribly. She chose to make that her intro.
- 23:07Speaker 9: The women in Atlanta have treated me horribly as someone
- 23:10Speaker 9: who has not prospered in certain clique environments.
- 23:15Speaker 8: Shout out to DC.
- 23:16Speaker 9: When you have pain around how certain cliques of women
- 23:20Speaker 9: treat you, you are almost scared to be intimate with
- 23:23Speaker 9: them because you're scared of being made fool again. And
- 23:25Speaker 9: I think that what I saw is that private jet
- 23:29Speaker 9: conversation got very intimate finances as black women on the
- 23:33Speaker 9: television show is a very intimate topic. Every time it
- 23:36Speaker 9: is not about her and her pain trauma like you
- 23:39Speaker 9: would mentioned Dustin, and though they're being intimate and vulnerable,
- 23:43Speaker 9: that seems to be the trigger that shuts her down.
- 23:45Speaker 9: She can't do intimacy with women right now, and we've
- 23:48Speaker 9: seen her in so many shows that explain that trigger.
- 23:51Speaker 9: So it's not to throw her bail, it's just to say.
- 23:54Speaker 9: I don't think it's sinister or narcissistic. I think that
- 23:57Speaker 9: she doesn't even know how to be intimate with women anymore.
- 24:00Speaker 9: I think groups of women she doesn't trust it instinctively
- 24:02Speaker 9: because she's been stolen from, she's been lied to, she's
- 24:05Speaker 9: been despaired, she's been called.
- 24:06Speaker 8: The whore, all types of things.
- 24:07Speaker 9: So when she sees that Portia and Pinky, even when
- 24:10Speaker 9: Pinky and Angela had their argument, but they were able
- 24:13Speaker 9: to talk about that later, able to squash it and
- 24:15Speaker 9: move it on. I don't think she's ever been allowed
- 24:17Speaker 9: to do that, dance with women and have a nasty
- 24:19Speaker 9: moment and come on the other side. And so that
- 24:21Speaker 9: intimacy that the Atlanta girls have that we don't give
- 24:24Speaker 9: them credit for because these girls were arguing, fight and
- 24:26Speaker 9: then we'll see them at brunch off season, right. I
- 24:28Speaker 9: don't think she's built for the intimacy of Atlanta, and
- 24:31Speaker 9: I think she underestimated how much they are real with
- 24:34Speaker 9: each other off screen and intimate with each other even
- 24:36Speaker 9: on screen.
- 24:38Speaker 3: Well, let's get into that. Let's get into that because
- 24:40Speaker 3: one thing that.
- 24:43Speaker 2: And listen, we can jump around this episode too, because listen,
- 24:46Speaker 2: they get to the house in Dallas, and you know,
- 24:50Speaker 2: Cynthia is showing them the rooms and Cynthia's system.
- 24:53Speaker 3: Down and they have conversation about the room.
- 24:56Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Cynthia gave the pool
- 24:58Speaker 2: house to Samiyah and Kelly. Right now, I want to
- 25:06Speaker 2: set the set where we are chron of logically in
- 25:08Speaker 2: the episode because I want to stay on Kiy Michelle
- 25:11Speaker 2: so that it doesn't something we're going back and forth
- 25:13Speaker 2: on it. One of the things that I want to
- 25:15Speaker 2: talk to you guys about was ky Michelle did not
- 25:18Speaker 2: want to go to the dinner because she didn't have lamb.
- 25:21Speaker 3: And the reason why I want to just stick.
- 25:24Speaker 2: There with the Ky Mishelle topic is because with all
- 25:28Speaker 2: the stuffy guys are saying, do you feel like that notion?
- 25:34Speaker 2: I don't go anywhere without my hair and makeup?
- 25:36Speaker 3: Do you do?
- 25:37Speaker 2: And I start with you Blue, do you think ky
- 25:39Speaker 2: Michelle's choice of not going to a dinner to where.
- 25:44Speaker 3: These girls get down?
- 25:45Speaker 2: Listen, the Atlanta Girls, the Atlanta Housewives, their dinners are
- 25:51Speaker 2: a Claudia knows this being a part of the show. Well,
- 25:54Speaker 2: b eyelashes lace front down sometime a different wig.
- 25:59Speaker 3: So if I'm.
- 26:00Speaker 2: New to this shop, and I know these are some
- 26:04Speaker 2: bad bitches, right, did her did her reluctance going to
- 26:14Speaker 2: the dinner without glam to you feel like they had
- 26:17Speaker 2: a lot to do with how she is trying to
- 26:20Speaker 2: find her way with the set of girls opposed to
- 26:24Speaker 2: her experience on love and hip hop.
- 26:26Speaker 9: Yeah, because up until we have this conversation, I was
- 26:29Speaker 9: confused because Dustin said earlier you had glam to get on.
- 26:32Speaker 8: The jat girl your losses to stole on.
- 26:34Speaker 5: What's the problem.
- 26:35Speaker 9: And then there was a woman where she got quiet
- 26:37Speaker 9: and she said, I can't even do my I don't
- 26:39Speaker 9: even straighten my own hair, I don't do my own lip,
- 26:41Speaker 9: I don't do anything. And this is the thing that
- 26:42Speaker 9: women and Claude can attest to this when a woman
- 26:45Speaker 9: feels off kilter. Glam can be an armor for us.
- 26:50Speaker 9: Glam can very much be an armor for us. Where
- 26:53Speaker 9: what did Rihanna say? You might out whatever mean, but
- 26:55Speaker 9: you can't outdress me, you know what I mean? Glam
- 26:57Speaker 9: is an armor for women. And I can't see if
- 26:59Speaker 9: someone like Michelle who her manipulating her appearance making herself
- 27:02Speaker 9: a gorgeous She's a beautiful woman, right, but she is
- 27:05Speaker 9: known to manipulate her appearance in order to be strong
- 27:08Speaker 9: and to feel confident, and she's talked about how that
- 27:11Speaker 9: can be her downfall.
- 27:12Speaker 8: If you're in a space where everybody's being super intimate.
- 27:15Speaker 9: And you feel off kilter, and now they're getting their
- 27:19Speaker 9: face beat to the gods and the fresh wig and
- 27:21Speaker 9: fresh slashes and next.
- 27:22Speaker 5: Y and Z.
- 27:23Speaker 8: Now I feel like I'm sweaty from the PJ.
- 27:27Speaker 9: I don't want to get intimate with these girls, and
- 27:29Speaker 9: I don't look like I don't look fabulous enough to
- 27:31Speaker 9: sit there and not say anything like like a phager
- 27:33Speaker 9: does all the time. I do think that, now that
- 27:35Speaker 9: I'm thinking about it, it didn't make sense in the moment,
- 27:38Speaker 9: But I do think that not having the glam thing
- 27:40Speaker 9: was another hint that this is an intimacy issue. I
- 27:43Speaker 9: think this trip, if it evolves, the more intimate the
- 27:46Speaker 9: girl and you guys can do a drinking game, the
- 27:48Speaker 9: more intimate the girls become.
- 27:50Speaker 8: I see Cam Michelle shutting down more and more or
- 27:54Speaker 8: being activated.
- 27:55Speaker 9: To Justustin's point, it's either you're shutting off or you're activated.
- 27:57Speaker 9: Because Claudia said there's only two buttons me either active
- 28:01Speaker 9: or I'm off.
- 28:01Speaker 8: I don't think she does.
- 28:03Speaker 6: I just want her to get out of her head
- 28:05Speaker 6: about it, I do. I just want her to get
- 28:07Speaker 6: out of her head about thinking that these women are
- 28:10Speaker 6: like this and over here so different from this, and
- 28:13Speaker 6: just be yourself and just come into this thing just
- 28:17Speaker 6: raw and just one hundred percent you. I'm not talking
- 28:20Speaker 6: about the glam because that I respect that. Like people
- 28:22Speaker 6: want to be presented in a way where they feel
- 28:25Speaker 6: their best representing themselves and are confident, and that gets deep,
- 28:29Speaker 6: So I respect that, Like, get your glam, but like,
- 28:33Speaker 6: stop acting like this is just all deff, Like I
- 28:36Speaker 6: don't know. You only get so much for me speaking
- 28:38Speaker 6: for myself as a viewer, right, you only get so
- 28:41Speaker 6: many episodes of that excusing your withdrawing behavior. After a while,
- 28:45Speaker 6: you gotta suck it up. You're a professional, you know
- 28:47Speaker 6: what show you on. Get in the game with these
- 28:49Speaker 6: women and really start engaging, show us your funny personality. Laugh, like,
- 28:54Speaker 6: like say something other than safe sex and paychecks. I'm
- 28:57Speaker 6: tired of hearing that tagline, Like just just just get
- 29:00Speaker 6: in there and start being yourself and let the viewers
- 29:03Speaker 6: and these women get to know you in a way
- 29:05Speaker 6: that will serve you as opposed to being with drawn
- 29:08Speaker 6: waiting because it looked like you're sitting back waiting on
- 29:10Speaker 6: a conflict so you can pop off and do your thing.
- 29:14Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, And I don't again shout
- 29:16Speaker 6: out to your incredible interview with Porstcha Carlos or Poor
- 29:19Speaker 6: Porsa said, I think that Kym and Schelle is going
- 29:22Speaker 6: to look back at this situation and feel like she
- 29:25Speaker 6: didn't play this first season correctly. I feel like she's
- 29:28Speaker 6: sitting back waiting on a motherfucking moment to pop off
- 29:31Speaker 6: or golf on somebody.
- 29:32Speaker 5: I felt like the fight with Drew was an easy,
- 29:36Speaker 5: lazy play.
- 29:37Speaker 6: He low hanging fruit, and I feel like it just
- 29:39Speaker 6: speaks to her sitting and she's already said she's sitting
- 29:42Speaker 6: back just She said this in her interviews that she's
- 29:45Speaker 6: done on her press runs for of Atlanta season seventeen,
- 29:48Speaker 6: how she was really observant this season and she sat
- 29:51Speaker 6: back and just watched how everybody was moving and watch
- 29:54Speaker 6: what was going on. And you can tell that while
- 29:56Speaker 6: she was watching whatever was going on, she was waiting
- 29:59Speaker 6: on her opportunity to jump in the ropes, so to speak.
- 30:02Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and I feel like shely
- 30:04Speaker 6: only saw a window of opportunity to do that through
- 30:08Speaker 6: conflict with another cast member when ky Michelle is so funny.
- 30:13Speaker 6: That's what we love about her because in her verbal
- 30:16Speaker 6: combat with these other people in her past, humor has
- 30:20Speaker 6: been a big strength, a big tool in her toolkit. Right,
- 30:24Speaker 6: So we want to see her be funny. We don't
- 30:26Speaker 6: have to see her fight with people. And I wish
- 30:28Speaker 6: she would just find the middle ground and just show
- 30:30Speaker 6: up as that and stop sitting back waiting, because it
- 30:33Speaker 6: appears that.
- 30:37Speaker 5: Her withdrawn.
- 30:40Speaker 6: Positioning in this show right can be perceived different ways
- 30:43Speaker 6: that I don't think is fair to her because I
- 30:46Speaker 6: don't think it's rooted in some of the ways that
- 30:48Speaker 6: it can be received. Do you think you better than them?
- 30:50Speaker 6: Are you NURCISSI sick? Do you only want to talk
- 30:52Speaker 6: on this about you?
- 30:53Speaker 5: You know?
- 30:53Speaker 6: Are you only conflict centered and driven? I think it's
- 30:56Speaker 6: a lot of ways we could take that so that
- 30:57Speaker 6: we could be wrong in just want to give her
- 31:00Speaker 6: a fair shot, and I don't think that she's contributing
- 31:04Speaker 6: to that with her behavior and this thing.
- 31:06Speaker 7: The first time she withdrew herself from a dinner because
- 31:09Speaker 7: she did the same thing at Porsche's house, right, So
- 31:12Speaker 7: you either.
- 31:12Speaker 4: Are that bitch or you're not that bitch.
- 31:14Speaker 7: Okay, So if you want to go on here like
- 31:17Speaker 7: I'm above these girls, I'm on the country music charts
- 31:19Speaker 7: on this, I that in the third which you are.
- 31:22Speaker 4: Oh, it should be okay if I'm that girl with.
- 31:25Speaker 7: These places, I can show up to a scene with
- 31:28Speaker 7: no makeup on, no lashes, lashes, bob tucked under or not.
- 31:33Speaker 7: It should not matter, like you should be bob nothing,
- 31:43Speaker 7: go ahead.
- 31:45Speaker 4: Hair hat.
- 31:46Speaker 7: So yeah, Like I feel like I get confused a
- 31:49Speaker 7: little bit about her because it's like, on one hand,
- 31:53Speaker 7: you're like looking down on people because of your accolades,
- 31:55Speaker 7: which you do have many, But then you're also insecure
- 31:58Speaker 7: about showing up to a scene at a day her
- 32:00Speaker 7: with the girls without full glamb But you just did
- 32:02Speaker 7: a thing with Kelly and Shamiyah without the same glam.
- 32:06Speaker 4: So I don't know what that's about.
- 32:08Speaker 7: I do know that on these shows, I mean, listen,
- 32:10Speaker 7: the women are held under such unrealistic expectations, you know
- 32:14Speaker 7: what I mean, Like you can't have one bad hair
- 32:16Speaker 7: day where it's gonna be a mean fifteen fourteen, twelve thirteen,
- 32:19Speaker 7: twelve years later. Okay, okay, they do do that, that
- 32:22Speaker 7: is true, but I guess we and I also do
- 32:25Speaker 7: think cam Michelle feels like she's still in loving hip
- 32:27Speaker 7: hop's extra she's extra sensitive and that was a very
- 32:30Speaker 7: hostile environment. Even though we said we didn't want to
- 32:33Speaker 7: show canceled. It is what let's call spade to spade
- 32:36Speaker 7: was very It was very hostile for her and she was,
- 32:40Speaker 7: I have to say this, very hostile towards others.
- 32:44Speaker 4: Also, the face with some flowers was not cool.
- 32:46Speaker 5: So I think you ever, Memi, why she ain't fucked
- 32:49Speaker 5: her up when she did that?
- 32:50Speaker 4: Man, I'd be like me, me did she said that?
- 32:56Speaker 3: So Colonia knows me obviously more intimate than I do.
- 33:01Speaker 2: But to know Mimi is to know, like Dustin, remember
- 33:06Speaker 2: when jos Lene through the drink at her face.
- 33:09Speaker 3: It was like, so, me, me.
- 33:13Speaker 2: You have to you. Mimi has to give a fuck
- 33:17Speaker 2: about you in order for it to come out. Like
- 33:21Speaker 2: when she bits Stevie J's ear, right, it's it's it's
- 33:25Speaker 2: because that's that's that's the father of her kid.
- 33:27Speaker 3: And she felt vearns and whatever.
- 33:30Speaker 2: So when it came to came and showed that moment
- 33:32Speaker 2: me me, I mean not me me, Claudia Tima got
- 33:35Speaker 2: this wrong.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Mimi only pops off and she gives.
- 33:38Speaker 2: A fuck, and Mimi doesn't give a funk by a
- 33:42Speaker 2: lot of people.
- 33:43Speaker 5: I get it that.
- 33:47Speaker 6: I was her thorns and shipped them heavy leaves, and
- 33:50Speaker 6: I'm you know, my allergy is bad anyway.
- 33:52Speaker 5: So plants and ship hit me.
- 33:58Speaker 7: Should have responded differently, and I told her, I'm like, yo,
- 34:01Speaker 7: what the fuck?
- 34:02Speaker 3: Why would you not?
- 34:03Speaker 5: Like?
- 34:03Speaker 7: She should have done that, just like I should have
- 34:05Speaker 7: smacked Jennifer Williams my face when she Oh, my biggest
- 34:10Speaker 7: regret on reality TV should have happened and with me me,
- 34:14Speaker 7: she should have done something in that moment because she
- 34:16Speaker 7: had every right to. She would have been justified. The
- 34:18Speaker 7: audience would have forgiven her. They're like, oh, I get it.
- 34:21Speaker 7: You ain't hit me in the faith, No, goddamn roses.
- 34:23Speaker 5: Hell fuck no, Jennifer.
- 34:27Speaker 9: Williams catching this trade is wild, Okay.
- 34:32Speaker 6: Jennifer Williams got disrespected for years on Basketball Wise because
- 34:36Speaker 6: she let that girl walk around at table on her
- 34:39Speaker 6: I don't remember what season it was, but I just
- 34:41Speaker 6: tweeted about it.
- 34:42Speaker 5: Earlier today.
- 34:43Speaker 6: She should have beat that girl's ass that year, that
- 34:45Speaker 6: the girl that said that she was either two bedroom
- 34:48Speaker 6: apartment or whatever.
- 34:49Speaker 5: Which what's wrong with a two bedroom apartment at Harlem?
- 34:52Speaker 5: What's wrong with the bob? Nothing but Jennifer Williams.
- 34:57Speaker 6: Letting that ship slide, letting that disrespect slide, led to
- 35:00Speaker 6: years of relentless disrespect on basketball wives.
- 35:05Speaker 5: She should have whooped that girl ass in it.
- 35:08Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that would have been good for her,
- 35:11Speaker 7: and then moving forward and made her less obnoxious.
- 35:13Speaker 4: I think that would I think that would have been good.
- 35:15Speaker 4: Hey hey, hey, hey, y'all.
- 35:18Speaker 7: Told me to go get a drink, and I did
- 35:20Speaker 7: it and then I drank and now you don't get.
- 35:22Speaker 5: I want to go get another one. Honestly, I really
- 35:24Speaker 5: want to like this clip.
- 35:26Speaker 8: No, I'm starting.
- 35:29Speaker 4: Can I share my truth? I've never said that before.
- 35:33Speaker 4: I've been holding on sense since twenty fifteen. When you
- 35:37Speaker 4: put me on the next fifteen, I bit just traumatized me.
- 35:39Speaker 4: I understand, I understand That's what I'm saying.
- 35:42Speaker 3: I allowed you to speak. I was just going to transition.
- 35:46Speaker 4: Okay, topic which is thinking.
- 35:51Speaker 6: And Kelly, Okay, what about them? Because I have comments Okay, so.
- 35:56Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with you, Dustin.
- 35:57Speaker 2: So Cynthia Gaye should me and Kelly b pool house.
- 36:04Speaker 3: Smia said it was a stain on her bed.
- 36:06Speaker 2: She called her husband Gerald, Gerald gave very much girl bye.
- 36:11Speaker 3: I got girls Gerl Gerald is not into it.
- 36:16Speaker 2: Kelly calls Frick and cracked back. Pinky got the tiny house?
- 36:23Speaker 2: Does it started with view? What do you think about
- 36:26Speaker 2: Shamia and Kelly behavior when it came to their room assignment.
- 36:34Speaker 5: I think they dragged it.
- 36:36Speaker 6: I do No, I'm the person who I'm not going
- 36:39Speaker 6: for no dirty accommodations whatsoever. So I feel you on
- 36:43Speaker 6: that and that is not It ain't like Cynthia made
- 36:45Speaker 6: the damn bed, you know what I'm saying.
- 36:46Speaker 5: So it's not like she chose the dirty sheets. That
- 36:49Speaker 5: is a fact.
- 36:51Speaker 6: Like if the room was not up to the cleanliness
- 36:53Speaker 6: standard that anyone would expect, right then that is normal
- 36:57Speaker 6: and understandable. What you're not gonna do now? Feel like
- 37:00Speaker 6: this is your portal into poking at Cynthia. Cynthia is
- 37:04Speaker 6: not a person who is looking for conflict.
- 37:07Speaker 5: On that show.
- 37:07Speaker 6: She will get in there and do what she has
- 37:10Speaker 6: to do, but she would much rather get along and
- 37:12Speaker 6: we all know that so and y'all could point those
- 37:16Speaker 6: and by y'all, I mean Shamiyah and Kelly. They could
- 37:19Speaker 6: have pointed those fingers of we're looking for a part
- 37:22Speaker 6: a conflict party at a lot of other people on
- 37:24Speaker 6: the cast, not Cynthia. She's a friend of she's hosting
- 37:28Speaker 6: the show, the trip, let.
- 37:30Speaker 5: Her do that right.
- 37:31Speaker 6: I'm gonna give Kelly a pass for this trip because
- 37:36Speaker 6: when she talked at the pool, when she was pull
- 37:38Speaker 6: side with Samiyah and kay Michelle and at Jack Daniel's bottle,
- 37:42Speaker 6: she literally said how she was in the throes of
- 37:46Speaker 6: what was going on with her ex husband and he
- 37:49Speaker 6: had just like set up a literal protest, which I
- 37:52Speaker 6: remember seeing in the media during that time with picket
- 37:55Speaker 6: signs with their children's faces and shit that actually happened.
- 37:58Speaker 6: And that kind of goes beyond the caddy shit on
- 38:02Speaker 6: the show. So I'm gonna give Kelly a little bit
- 38:04Speaker 6: of a pass for her attitude during that time.
- 38:07Speaker 5: But they both, Kelly and Shamiah.
- 38:11Speaker 6: Could be so interesting in their own right right without
- 38:15Speaker 6: looking to be the sour puss of the group together.
- 38:19Speaker 6: That's what it feels like. It feels like they are
- 38:21Speaker 6: Debbie Downers on the cast, and Kelly has so much
- 38:26Speaker 6: personal story right now during this time, we.
- 38:29Speaker 5: Should see her.
- 38:31Speaker 6: Where are the scenes with Randy Kessler in the law firm.
- 38:34Speaker 6: Where are the scenes of you sitting down at a
- 38:36Speaker 6: picnic table with your great on are your grandmama or
- 38:39Speaker 6: your mom or whoever, crying talking about what's going on?
- 38:42Speaker 6: Where are the scenes where you're on your cell phone
- 38:45Speaker 6: with the ex husband hollering because he won't film with y'all.
- 38:48Speaker 6: But we still get to see you in the throes
- 38:49Speaker 6: of that, so that we're attached to that part of
- 38:52Speaker 6: your story and we don't have to be depending on
- 38:54Speaker 6: you attaching yourself to whatever little petty, whatever.
- 38:58Speaker 5: Shit is going on amongst the cast for yourself to
- 39:00Speaker 5: be relevant on the show.
- 39:02Speaker 6: You know, I would love to lean into Kelly's personal story.
- 39:05Speaker 6: Shemia is a different case. Let Smia just be rich
- 39:08Speaker 6: and happy, that's it, and show your ties that bind
- 39:12Speaker 6: with the cast that go years back.
- 39:15Speaker 5: Be that person Shamiah Shuit.
- 39:16Speaker 6: Really, instead of trying to argue with Cynthia, she needs
- 39:19Speaker 6: to be studying Cynthia because that's.
- 39:21Speaker 5: The role that Shamiah needs to try to play. Amongst
- 39:23Speaker 5: this cast.
- 39:24Speaker 6: Okay, that's where she could see success, which we as
- 39:27Speaker 6: evidenced in season sixteen episodes one and two. Right when
- 39:32Speaker 6: Shemia was presiding, had all the ladies upstairs in that
- 39:35Speaker 6: room in her house. She said porscha and drew down
- 39:37Speaker 6: to talk it out amongst the cast. That's the version
- 39:40Speaker 6: of Shemiah that works in this cast. The rest of
- 39:43Speaker 6: this shit, I don't know how it's gonna turn out.
- 39:46Speaker 2: I normally let you guys go first before I stepped in,
- 39:50Speaker 2: but out almost my thought. I had an aha moment,
- 39:55Speaker 2: Dustin what you said, because that is who she was.
- 39:58Speaker 3: In the beginning of season six sixteen.
- 40:00Speaker 2: I forgot that she was the one, and I'm talking
- 40:03Speaker 2: about Shimiya. Samia introduced us to Bret Edie and to Kelly,
- 40:07Speaker 2: and they had that scene at the restaurant, and she
- 40:10Speaker 2: was the one that literally had the graphic that they had.
- 40:14Speaker 3: In post production where she connected the dots.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Like this person knows that person and I know this
- 40:19Speaker 2: person and we were like, well, are these all your friends?
- 40:24Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 40:24Speaker 2: So to your point, I never thought about that. It's
- 40:29Speaker 2: interesting because unfortunately that's not going to happen this season.
- 40:34Speaker 2: Based on my interview with Porsche, where Porsche, by the way.
- 40:38Speaker 5: For watching it.
- 40:39Speaker 3: It's doing very well.
- 40:40Speaker 5: It was great, Thank you. It was a good.
- 40:51Speaker 3: Go on my Instagram.
- 40:53Speaker 2: So what is interesting, though, is Porsche did say that
- 40:59Speaker 2: should Mia just something so low down and unwarranted that
- 41:04Speaker 2: she won't ever speak to her again.
- 41:06Speaker 3: That is that bad. They can work in the same place,
- 41:10Speaker 3: but she won't speak.
- 41:11Speaker 2: And I believe Angela Oakley and some other people during
- 41:15Speaker 2: the press run said that Shamia pretty much is the
- 41:18Speaker 2: villain this season. So when you talk about Shamiah, what's
- 41:21Speaker 2: so interesting is and I even said this to Portia,
- 41:25Speaker 2: I do't no almost talking about the fact that we
- 41:28Speaker 2: have yet to see this is what five the fifth episode,
- 41:32Speaker 2: we have yet to see Portia and Shmia interact. And
- 41:35Speaker 2: they've known each other since they were fourteen years old,
- 41:39Speaker 2: so I know what's.
- 41:39Speaker 3: To come later right later.
- 41:42Speaker 2: I'm still struggling with what is going on to where
- 41:47Speaker 2: you ladies are the same house and you guys won't
- 41:50Speaker 2: even speak to each other. And I am intrigued with
- 41:54Speaker 2: the idea that what made Shamilla the fan favorite at
- 41:59Speaker 2: the top of the season last season is what Dustin said,
- 42:03Speaker 2: and that is she connected the doc and she appeared
- 42:07Speaker 2: to be the Cynthia Billy of the group.
- 42:09Speaker 3: But starting with you Blue, do you think do you think.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Smilla's rise is tumbling a little bit because of her
- 42:20Speaker 2: association with Kelly and then seeing how she refused to
- 42:25Speaker 2: go to the dinner that oh, that veteran Cynthia Belly
- 42:30Speaker 2: you know, was hosting at this home on the trip.
- 42:33Speaker 9: I think that sometimes when people bond over disdain or
- 42:38Speaker 9: envy towards a big fish, they overestimate how compelling they
- 42:42Speaker 9: are joining forces. And I think that Samiyah being the
- 42:47Speaker 9: fan favorite last year, with Kelly being the one who
- 42:50Speaker 9: got her first lick in when she said, so, why
- 42:52Speaker 9: did you take that lady's husband?
- 42:54Speaker 5: Ye?
- 42:55Speaker 8: I think when Portia and Shamia.
- 42:57Speaker 9: Fell out, whether it's conscious or subconcrent, I can only speculate.
- 43:01Speaker 9: I think that Kelly thought me taking Porscha's bestie, the
- 43:06Speaker 9: BFF and the pilot. I'm still not over that that
- 43:09Speaker 9: BFF thing messed with my spirit, irked my spirit.
- 43:11Speaker 8: It felt like a bad omen right.
- 43:13Speaker 9: I think they thought that they were gonna be the
- 43:15Speaker 9: new freaking frack I thought. I think that they thought
- 43:17Speaker 9: that because Shemiah is a fan favorite and Kelly's only
- 43:20Speaker 9: already on the record having no issue taking looks at Porsia.
- 43:24Speaker 8: They thought that two versus.
- 43:25Speaker 9: One, that any kind of side eye that Porscha got
- 43:30Speaker 9: from her last relationship, the two of them could take
- 43:33Speaker 9: Porsche down, because who better to take you down than
- 43:35Speaker 9: your best friend of several decades. I think they overestimated
- 43:38Speaker 9: how likable them as a duel would be. I think
- 43:41Speaker 9: Cynthia being in Cynthia like a water sign because she
- 43:44Speaker 9: has great instincts.
- 43:45Speaker 3: I think Cynthia.
- 43:50Speaker 9: Yeah, because you know why I'm saying that, because I
- 43:52Speaker 9: think when Cynthia put them in the house, my first
- 43:54Speaker 9: thought is I would have done the same thing, because
- 43:55Speaker 9: there's something about the way that they're clicking up.
- 43:57Speaker 8: This is exhausting, and she thought that she could them
- 44:00Speaker 8: in that house. That's what I think.
- 44:01Speaker 9: I would have contained them in the little House of
- 44:03Speaker 9: Horrors as well if I was Cynthia. So I think
- 44:05Speaker 9: Cynthia Bailgi putting them in that house was a brilliant
- 44:07Speaker 9: idea because it's a questioned them and stopped them from
- 44:10Speaker 9: being able to poke at Porsche and undermine the collective.
- 44:14Speaker 9: So I think putting them in that space made perfect sense.
- 44:17Speaker 9: I also think that because they think as a duo
- 44:20Speaker 9: they're so funny, like they think they're funnier than they
- 44:22Speaker 9: really are. They're funny, but they're even funnier in their
- 44:24Speaker 9: own minds. They've been in this echo chamber talking about
- 44:27Speaker 9: Porsche for so long that when it was time for
- 44:29Speaker 9: the show to start, they thought they had a one
- 44:31Speaker 9: up because I have a fan favorite who is the
- 44:34Speaker 9: only person who's tether to the star of the show,
- 44:38Speaker 9: which is Porsche and me, and you could take her
- 44:40Speaker 9: down because they know I'm not scared, right, I'll climb
- 44:41Speaker 9: her leg and beat her out. So they overestimated. That's
- 44:44Speaker 9: why I think Kelly's working so hard to have problems
- 44:46Speaker 9: with Porsche. Even when Porscha sent those flowers that to
- 44:49Speaker 9: me was still kind of weird. The flowers were nice
- 44:51Speaker 9: while you being so weird about it. I think it's
- 44:53Speaker 9: gonna go poorly because I think Pinky is a wild
- 44:56Speaker 9: card in all of this. I think if Pinky was
- 45:02Speaker 9: not on the show and Shemiah and Kelly were able
- 45:06Speaker 9: to nip at Porsha's heels like the two little cho
- 45:08Speaker 9: wobbers that they're being right now, and Kay Michelle was
- 45:10Speaker 9: able to have that combative thing that she wanted. The
- 45:13Speaker 9: show might have gone in the way that Ky, Michelle
- 45:16Speaker 9: and uh what's her name? Shemiah and Kelly all thought.
- 45:19Speaker 9: Pinky being so authentic cracked open a window in the
- 45:22Speaker 9: entire cast. Pinky being so authentic immediately made the intimacy
- 45:28Speaker 9: front street. Pinky being so bout it about it immediately
- 45:31Speaker 9: made the girls feel like, oh, we could tell so,
- 45:33Speaker 9: and then Kiki afterwards it brought us. It's almost like
- 45:36Speaker 9: Pinky and Angela are the two headed savior of the
- 45:40Speaker 9: show because Angela is just fucking amazing and Pinky's so
- 45:43Speaker 9: real that the two of them together, you're now seeing
- 45:46Speaker 9: the old show that we love. But I don't think
- 45:47Speaker 9: the two girls that were in cahoots planned on that.
- 45:50Speaker 9: So Key Michelle shout up to fight, Kelly and Shamia
- 45:53Speaker 9: shouted up to fight, but their.
- 45:54Speaker 8: Shadow boxing and they look crazy. That's my theory. Does
- 45:58Speaker 8: that make sense, guys?
- 46:00Speaker 5: Perfect sings to me.
- 46:04Speaker 7: I think Kelly and Shemia do have reasons to have
- 46:08Speaker 7: issues with Porsche because I already told y'all my tea
- 46:11Speaker 7: between Kelly and Porsche. I was proven right because even
- 46:15Speaker 7: Porscha said that I wasn't lying about that. Okay, there
- 46:18Speaker 7: was a man now, Okay, I will never blastom because
- 46:22Speaker 7: these good people, and I think Shmi has a reason
- 46:25Speaker 7: to feel away. I just feel like it's not coming
- 46:29Speaker 7: off good because of the show. Again, I go back
- 46:32Speaker 7: to the reality of it all. It is a TV show, y'all,
- 46:36Speaker 7: and things will be shot in a way where you know,
- 46:40Speaker 7: we're supposed to like these people and not like these people.
- 46:42Speaker 7: I think they have a right to have issues with
- 46:44Speaker 7: Porsche and it's it's legit. I don't even know if
- 46:46Speaker 7: they even have to try to take her out. They
- 46:49Speaker 7: have real reasons in real life to have an issue.
- 46:52Speaker 7: It's not coming off well on the show. It's not
- 46:56Speaker 7: and I do think they were valid and having issues
- 46:59Speaker 7: with their room.
- 46:59Speaker 4: Of course, it wasn't Cynthia's fault. It's all it's all
- 47:02Speaker 4: the production.
- 47:02Speaker 7: And honestly, Cynthia probably didn't even really pick that room
- 47:05Speaker 7: for them. That of course was production, y'all.
- 47:09Speaker 3: I disagree with you, I.
- 47:13Speaker 2: Mean, I emphatically disagree with you that production told Cynthia
- 47:21Speaker 2: to give the pool house to Kelly and Shamia, because
- 47:27Speaker 2: oh go ahead, I'm sorry.
- 47:28Speaker 4: I was saying my experience on reality shows. I remember
- 47:31Speaker 4: we went to Philippines.
- 47:32Speaker 7: I was told I had to put Phedra in a
- 47:35Speaker 7: nice room because she was going through divorce, and I
- 47:36Speaker 7: was like.
- 47:37Speaker 4: Fuck that bitch.
- 47:38Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I'm not saying any of the
- 47:41Speaker 2: that does not exist. All I'm saying is because I
- 47:44Speaker 2: agree with you, Base Listen, I agree with you in
- 47:47Speaker 2: the sense of, yes, there are things that meet sbi all.
- 47:50Speaker 3: I'm saying that's only cut you off.
- 47:53Speaker 2: Disagree with you about the room selection because Cynthia is
- 47:57Speaker 2: such a vet and and you saw Cynthia, because the thing.
- 48:02Speaker 3: Is this Cinthy.
- 48:04Speaker 4: She was looking like she was like damn, but.
- 48:06Speaker 2: Yeah, she's try because in my opinion, I think Cynthia
- 48:08Speaker 2: knew is either freaking frack or me and Kelly, and
- 48:12Speaker 2: I think I.
- 48:13Speaker 3: Think Cynthia struggled with which one it could be.
- 48:17Speaker 2: So that's why I think that Cynthia, by her own merit,
- 48:24Speaker 2: did it. But listen, you and our Prince with Cynthia
- 48:26Speaker 2: were asking tomorrow I'll text her now.
- 48:30Speaker 4: But that's just my opinion. It's my opinion, and I
- 48:35Speaker 4: don't know.
- 48:35Speaker 7: I sometimes break the fourth wall on these shows, and
- 48:39Speaker 7: I'm sorry if I kind of ruin it for some
- 48:41Speaker 7: people that are viewers of these reality shows. But a
- 48:45Speaker 7: lot of times I'm here to speak for the people
- 48:47Speaker 7: that have to do things on these shows when it
- 48:51Speaker 7: may not be their first mind. I mean, I've had
- 48:54Speaker 7: you on some shows do something that was against what
- 48:57Speaker 7: my gut was telling me was the right thing the
- 48:59Speaker 7: jew and guess who has to pay for it? Two three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
- 49:04Speaker 7: twelve years later you do. And so I'm here to
- 49:07Speaker 7: be the person that says, hey, guys, sometimes it ain't
- 49:11Speaker 7: what y'all think it is.
- 49:12Speaker 4: And it ain't like, you.
- 49:14Speaker 7: Know, people be getting demonized for choices or or or
- 49:18Speaker 7: given credit for choices that was production saying. If we
- 49:22Speaker 7: do this, we already know these two feel like outsiders.
- 49:26Speaker 7: It's going to elevate that. It's going to make of course,
- 49:28Speaker 7: it's going to make an issue happen.
- 49:30Speaker 4: Of course, the.
- 49:31Speaker 7: Room not being one hundred percent is going to make
- 49:32Speaker 7: an issue. I just look at it a little bit
- 49:34Speaker 7: differently because I've had to be the person where I
- 49:37Speaker 7: had to do things not with your Carlos, but on
- 49:39Speaker 7: shows where I had to do things where I didn't
- 49:41Speaker 7: feel like I wanted to do that or was wrong,
- 49:44Speaker 7: but I still had to do it because I'm on
- 49:46Speaker 7: a contract for the.
- 49:47Speaker 4: Show, right, and so it and it is genius because
- 49:51Speaker 4: that's what good producers do. That's what good production companies do.
- 49:54Speaker 7: They do these things because if they didn't and it
- 49:57Speaker 7: was all kumba yah, we wouldn't have an episode to
- 49:59Speaker 7: talk about.
- 50:01Speaker 4: I'm here as the reality the former person.
- 50:03Speaker 2: But that's why I love you being here because no, again,
- 50:08Speaker 2: I was only disagreeing about the real selection.
- 50:11Speaker 4: Yeah, you can ask her. Is that who your interview
- 50:15Speaker 4: with this week is?
- 50:17Speaker 3: No tomorrow?
- 50:21Speaker 8: Do you a quick question before you continue?
- 50:23Speaker 9: Do you think that I love that you said that
- 50:24Speaker 9: they have a good reason because I love that you're
- 50:26Speaker 9: humanizing them in that way. But do you think that
- 50:28Speaker 9: Porscha not taking the bait is why.
- 50:29Speaker 8: They look bad?
- 50:32Speaker 4: Not taking the bait.
- 50:33Speaker 9: Pora's not giving big nasty reactions, She's keeping it point
- 50:38Speaker 9: she is, And so that's the chink in the wheels
- 50:40Speaker 9: that if you have a valid reason but the other
- 50:42Speaker 9: person's not arguing, you do look crazy by yourself.
- 50:44Speaker 7: Of course, Yeah, and I do think and kudos to
- 50:47Speaker 7: Porsia for not taking the bait. I think she's a
- 50:50Speaker 7: reality that with Shemia and and Kelly and I.
- 50:53Speaker 4: So Porscha knows exactly how to like listen, she's really
- 50:58Speaker 4: good at what. She's really good at reality.
- 51:00Speaker 7: She knows like, if I give you nothing, you have nothing. Yeah,
- 51:06Speaker 7: if I give you nothing, then you're gonna look stupid.
- 51:08Speaker 7: Whether you're valid or not is not'ing the point. It's
- 51:11Speaker 7: what the fans are gonna see. The finished product is
- 51:14Speaker 7: I gave you nothing, y'all over there. She probably knows
- 51:16Speaker 7: they talking about her.
- 51:17Speaker 5: That's car being a vet.
- 51:19Speaker 6: That's carbbing season and knowing what you're doing, which is
- 51:21Speaker 6: why she gave that interview the way she did in
- 51:24Speaker 6: Carlos's space when she was asked about k Michelle.
- 51:28Speaker 5: Porscha didn't terror Ca Michelle up or get all nasty.
- 51:31Speaker 6: She just was like, you know what, I think she's
- 51:34Speaker 6: gonna look at that differently once it is, and I
- 51:36Speaker 6: think she's gonna do things differently next season.
- 51:39Speaker 5: That reflects the Porscha that we're getting right season. Whyse
- 51:44Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
- 51:45Speaker 6: We might miss some of the old Porsche, you know
- 51:48Speaker 6: what I mean, But this is where we're at and
- 51:50Speaker 6: it reflects I think based on what she stated in
- 51:53Speaker 6: that interview with Carlos, it reflects where she's at in
- 51:56Speaker 6: life right now.
- 51:57Speaker 7: And I'm right now, that's what's very frustrating to a
- 52:00Speaker 7: lot of people that are on reality TV. You come
- 52:02Speaker 7: on there and like what your reality is sometimes is
- 52:05Speaker 7: not necessarily what we will see as viewers.
- 52:08Speaker 5: Okay, I can stop.
- 52:10Speaker 2: You there too, just because I agree with you. Okay,
- 52:15Speaker 2: With that being said, it's not the onus on the
- 52:19Speaker 2: vent to come at you with what's what?
- 52:23Speaker 3: What's your issue with me?
- 52:24Speaker 2: I think the reason why if I can like peel
- 52:27Speaker 2: things back, I think the reason why the audience feels like, okay, Kelly,
- 52:31Speaker 2: are you confessional gangster?
- 52:32Speaker 3: Because you know you call you said freaking practice whack.
- 52:37Speaker 2: I would have preferred if Kelly went to the dinner
- 52:40Speaker 2: saying I think both ches are whack.
- 52:42Speaker 3: Okay, we let's talk about it.
- 52:44Speaker 2: And I think Portia, yeah, I think, like, well, what's good,
- 52:48Speaker 2: let's talk about it. But because we also give it
- 52:51Speaker 2: to too is a confessional gangster. And that's the reason
- 52:57Speaker 2: why I think my advice is should me and Kelly
- 53:01Speaker 2: the season already wrapped and we'll see what happens next week.
- 53:03Speaker 2: Because there was a preview of Kelly versus Shamia, so
- 53:06Speaker 2: maybe happen next week. I do think the problem, though,
- 53:09Speaker 2: is and that's why I had to ask portion like,
- 53:11Speaker 2: it's weird that I'm watching this season and you two
- 53:14Speaker 2: are even like talking. And I think if Shamiyah was
- 53:18Speaker 2: able to say, hey, friend, can we talk, all we
- 53:23Speaker 2: know based on Shamia is.
- 53:26Speaker 11: M hm, Carlos, this show okay, you know, So for me.
- 53:40Speaker 2: Listen, no Shay, So for me, because I agree with you, Claudia,
- 53:43Speaker 2: I feel like this is the thing. If I'm new
- 53:46Speaker 2: to reality show and I know this chick is a
- 53:49Speaker 2: that I'm going to take her off for game, I'm
- 53:53Speaker 2: gonna say, hey, cause let's be clear now, I'm gonna follow.
- 53:57Speaker 4: Where the star is exactly.
- 54:00Speaker 2: If I'm me or Kelly and I've gone to Porsche,
- 54:03Speaker 2: the face of this franchise and say I got a
- 54:07Speaker 2: problem with you, says, we all gonna be like, what's good?
- 54:11Speaker 3: So I do think the issue is I love Shami
- 54:15Speaker 3: and Kelly.
- 54:15Speaker 2: I'm and and I will go on record saying I
- 54:19Speaker 2: know for a fact that they do have a friendship,
- 54:22Speaker 2: whether whether to Claudia's point before, whether or not it's
- 54:27Speaker 2: being believe based on what's happening in real life.
- 54:32Speaker 3: They are like there are thickest thieves.
- 54:35Speaker 7: But it does seem like they like each other for real,
- 54:37Speaker 7: and it doesn't still be hating Portia.
- 54:39Speaker 8: Look, can we be honest.
- 54:40Speaker 4: It may have started with being anti Porsche, but I
- 54:43Speaker 4: do think.
- 54:45Speaker 8: You have a mutual enemy and we got tight.
- 54:47Speaker 9: I see that happen all the time, where we have
- 54:49Speaker 9: a shared enemy and then we become tight.
- 54:51Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't nobody like that.
- 54:53Speaker 6: If I don't, if I don't like somebody, don't be
- 54:55Speaker 6: trying to team up with me, nigga, No like you.
- 54:58Speaker 6: That's when you you do that on your own. Because
- 55:00Speaker 6: I don't trust neither one of y'all. I would never
- 55:02Speaker 6: trust a person that reached out to me because they
- 55:05Speaker 6: knew that I had a problem with somebody else to
- 55:07Speaker 6: try to have some sort of camaraderie, Like that's the
- 55:10Speaker 6: first person that will do you in. You know what
- 55:12Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like no, no.
- 55:14Speaker 5: No, no no no no no no.
- 55:15Speaker 3: No, yes, I'm sorry.
- 55:19Speaker 7: Real quick, Kelly and Samiam if you want this to
- 55:24Speaker 7: go in your well, it's too late.
- 55:25Speaker 4: There's the seasons, dirty wrap.
- 55:26Speaker 3: But but Claudia Reunion reunion advice.
- 55:29Speaker 4: Okay, reunion advice. I like both of you. I actually
- 55:33Speaker 4: like the cast right for the most part.
- 55:37Speaker 7: You cannot just like be a gangster in Confessionals, but
- 55:40Speaker 7: be just as gangster in the scene face to face
- 55:43Speaker 7: like Angela Oakley was, or you were gonna look silly
- 55:47Speaker 7: like you have to give the same energy, or you
- 55:49Speaker 7: leave the door wide open for people to talk trash
- 55:51Speaker 7: about you. And that goes for everybody on the cast.
- 55:53Speaker 7: Like if you all big and bad and banging on
- 55:56Speaker 7: your chest and stuff, when you and your confessions it's funny,
- 55:59Speaker 7: we gonna key can laugh for a second, but I'm sorry.
- 56:01Speaker 7: I don't have no respect for no one that doesn't
- 56:03Speaker 7: do it to your face.
- 56:04Speaker 4: That's what makes a read a read.
- 56:06Speaker 7: You ain't reading nobody if you say it with producers,
- 56:10Speaker 7: craft services, make up touch ups. Oh can I do
- 56:12Speaker 7: that again? I didn't really say it. They want to
- 56:14Speaker 7: say it because that happens to you in those confessionals.
- 56:16Speaker 7: But when you can say it bam on the spot
- 56:19Speaker 7: with no studies, to the person's face and they.
- 56:22Speaker 4: Have a reaction, that's when you are real. That's when
- 56:25Speaker 4: you're real one.
- 56:26Speaker 7: So you have to and I like you guys both,
- 56:28Speaker 7: but y'all the same energy. Y'all giving your confessions, do
- 56:31Speaker 7: it to the person's face and you'll have way more respects.
- 56:34Speaker 7: And then people can't really poke holes in the theory,
- 56:36Speaker 7: they can't kill you, confessional gangster.
- 56:38Speaker 5: I agree.
- 56:39Speaker 2: So speaking of reads, we got again to Angela Slope League.
- 56:46Speaker 3: And happy Birthday. Angela is literally her birthday today, say
- 56:49Speaker 3: happy birth.
- 56:50Speaker 5: Every birthday, birthday.
- 56:52Speaker 3: It was a birthday.
- 56:55Speaker 2: So as of today, I'm only referring to Angela Oakley
- 57:00Speaker 2: as Angela Goatlie because and I'm a star with Claudia
- 57:04Speaker 2: Jordan on this one, because she is a part of
- 57:06Speaker 2: the most iconic reas Atlanta house spots every sin and
- 57:10Speaker 2: I want to get Claudia Jordan's POV about this read
- 57:15Speaker 2: down between Pinky and the Angela Goatleie. So Pinky to
- 57:22Speaker 2: me and I love Pinky. Pinky definitely had a bit
- 57:27Speaker 2: of a tube a pond entry of the dinner that
- 57:35Speaker 2: I love that Angela clock instantly, and that to me
- 57:39Speaker 2: is what we're all four of us are saying in
- 57:42Speaker 2: terms of it was unexpected. You could tell it wasn't
- 57:45Speaker 2: produced and you could tell these two women were just
- 57:48Speaker 2: in the moment Angela clocked that there's something we're going
- 57:51Speaker 2: on with Pinky's attitude, and.
- 57:54Speaker 3: Why you why you caping some?
- 57:56Speaker 11: Is it caper cappin Oh wait, caping is.
- 58:04Speaker 8: The tiny house? Yeah?
- 58:07Speaker 2: Why you caping so much for these girls when they
- 58:09Speaker 2: can speak for themselves? And that's when all of a sudden,
- 58:14Speaker 2: Angela and Pinky's read down.
- 58:16Speaker 3: Was so severe up in here.
- 58:18Speaker 2: But Claudia Jordan take the floor, because one thing you
- 58:22Speaker 2: always said that igree with is the person who knows
- 58:27Speaker 2: how to read can take what the person is saying
- 58:31Speaker 2: about them turned around and flip it.
- 58:35Speaker 3: And to me, that's why Angela won. But go ahead, Fadia,
- 58:39Speaker 3: y'all ain't gonna like this.
- 58:40Speaker 4: That don't like me already and have an issue and
- 58:43Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck.
- 58:45Speaker 7: This was Puerto Rico two point zero with Pinky Beannini getting.
- 58:50Speaker 4: Upset and turning her back.
- 58:52Speaker 7: It's over and Angela, I'm sorry, Kindred spirits the way
- 58:58Speaker 7: Angela thinks the entire time, and whatever Pinky threw her,
- 59:04Speaker 7: she took it and threw it back. I know I
- 59:06Speaker 7: was singing Pinky's praises last week, but this week she
- 59:09Speaker 7: had nattitude and I did not like it. I don't
- 59:11Speaker 7: know what she came in there with because Pinky, I
- 59:13Speaker 7: like you, I really do, but I didn't like her
- 59:15Speaker 7: this week on the show, it was it felt just
- 59:19Speaker 7: like that from the short hair. Well, angel didn't have
- 59:22Speaker 7: a bob chucked under, but I, you know, I have
- 59:24Speaker 7: my room.
- 59:26Speaker 8: Were you triggered?
- 59:27Speaker 4: No, not at all. I was very proud. I like Angela.
- 59:29Speaker 7: I like them both actually, but I was like, this
- 59:31Speaker 7: is the kind of house while I was we like
- 59:33Speaker 7: nobody thought there wasn't nobody put her hands.
- 59:35Speaker 4: It was a verbal jousting.
- 59:38Speaker 7: And and this is not the takeaway from Pinky, because
- 59:40Speaker 7: Pinky still held her own.
- 59:43Speaker 4: Let's not let's not act like annihilated Pinky. Annihilate oh
- 59:51Speaker 4: with teeth.
- 59:52Speaker 8: Take that wing off, and let's see what you really
- 59:54Speaker 8: look like. Take them lashes off.
- 59:57Speaker 5: Teeth came from Angela, right, Angela.
- 1:00:01Speaker 7: Angela said things that we have not heard before. Angela, Listen,
- 1:00:04Speaker 7: you are a real reader reacting in the moment, and
- 1:00:08Speaker 7: now you're the same stuff over and over again and
- 1:00:11Speaker 7: keeping your calm. When Pinky stood up and was frustrated,
- 1:00:14Speaker 7: Angela won that in that moment, and Angela wanted to
- 1:00:17Speaker 7: keep going and Angela had the smirk, and I like that.
- 1:00:20Speaker 4: Now they both got some hits. Then they both.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Did, but that favorite hits.
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: I like. I I like a good volleyball match.
- 1:00:32Speaker 7: Okay, So when Pinky says something about I like the
- 1:00:37Speaker 7: multi millionaire.
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: Uh, what would you say the multimillionaire death.
- 1:00:41Speaker 7: The multimillionaire part the billshit, and Angela rent it right
- 1:00:45Speaker 7: back to her.
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: I liked it all it was it was, it was.
- 1:00:48Speaker 7: It was so many good ones in there. They both
- 1:00:50Speaker 7: had good ones, but Angela. I got to give the
- 1:00:53Speaker 7: edge of Angela. I do because Pinky came there seemed
- 1:00:56Speaker 7: like it seemed like piky an attitude and was very defensive.
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: From this episode, I got peek, you don't have girlfriends.
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: That's what I felt like I should be wrong.
- 1:01:04Speaker 7: It felt like she's already coming there with her guard up,
- 1:01:08Speaker 7: like I ain't like these girls. They probably don't like me.
- 1:01:11Speaker 7: So you come in a little defensive, and I hate
- 1:01:13Speaker 7: that for her.
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: But Angela Oakley.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Well, no, Angela said I can throw a rock and
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: hit ten people that.
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: You owe that alone. She won, She won. After that,
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: It was it was, it was, it was.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: That was it for me, I can't throw a rock
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: and hit ten people that you owe and then and then.
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: Claudia for you real quick.
- 1:01:35Speaker 9: Not with the way that your teeth colt mingle those
- 1:01:38Speaker 9: incestuous teeth. You got incestuous teeth, and this is the
- 1:01:41Speaker 9: face she had. I'm sorry, but incestuous teeth deserves to
- 1:01:45Speaker 9: be in the hall.
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: We've never heard that before. So anything that's unique material
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: we've never heard.
- 1:01:51Speaker 7: Anyone can say, Poe slet everyone ran through you.
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: You're this year that you broke.
- 1:01:55Speaker 7: But when you say something in a word combination that
- 1:01:58Speaker 7: we have not heard, I've never.
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: Commingo teeth.
- 1:02:05Speaker 9: Your teeth, commingo those incestuous teeth you got.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: Dustin You have a comedy show coming up as a comedian.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on this verbal jousting between Angela
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: Goatley and Pinky.
- 1:02:21Speaker 6: It was over the minute Porscha said Angela, why are
- 1:02:24Speaker 6: you looking like that? And we seen Angela's hand like
- 1:02:26Speaker 6: this when she started talking. If you watched The Real
- 1:02:29Speaker 6: Housewives of Atlanta Season sixteen and seventeen, you know, and
- 1:02:32Speaker 6: I'm keeping my hands steady for a reason. You know
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: that once Angela Oakley starts doing like this, when she's
- 1:02:38Speaker 6: talking to somebody.
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: You know what's coming next.
- 1:02:41Speaker 6: And unfortunately Pinky was on the end of this right
- 1:02:44Speaker 6: here at his finger, right here, Pinky was on the
- 1:02:47Speaker 6: pointer that time. Really just feel like from Friday Friday,
- 1:02:55Speaker 6: I really just feel like, yeah, that was a Friday
- 1:03:00Speaker 6: for all that that was.
- 1:03:01Speaker 5: That was funny.
- 1:03:01Speaker 7: Now Williams was getna hit on by I'm a boy, damon, like, leave.
- 1:03:09Speaker 6: Me alone, off me, That's what that came from. But
- 1:03:12Speaker 6: I and I and Pinky was having trouble with the timing,
- 1:03:18Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, landing certain things or whatever.
- 1:03:20Speaker 6: But what Pinky did do, Pinky ain't scared, and Pinky
- 1:03:23Speaker 6: showed herself ready to get in the paint. Yes, she
- 1:03:26Speaker 6: arrived at that table with a chip on her shoulder,
- 1:03:29Speaker 6: and I wish that she did not assume the need
- 1:03:32Speaker 6: to defend her friends when there was nothing to defend
- 1:03:36Speaker 6: him against. Because it looked like Pinky was being unnecessarily
- 1:03:40Speaker 6: confrontational with Cynthia.
- 1:03:42Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. She wasn't.
- 1:03:44Speaker 6: Really, nobody was really disrespecting Cynthia flat out, but they
- 1:03:47Speaker 6: were picking and priding, you know what I'm saying, And
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: it was unnecessary and unfortunately for Pinky, Angela, who was
- 1:03:55Speaker 6: one hundred percent present in the scene, picked up on it.
- 1:03:58Speaker 6: She sniffed the trail and literally leaned into it, and
- 1:04:02Speaker 6: it didn't work out well for Pinky because Angela won.
- 1:04:04Speaker 5: She took the w for sure.
- 1:04:06Speaker 6: She was composed, she was poised, She never broke character.
- 1:04:11Speaker 6: She was doing real time insults because she was using
- 1:04:14Speaker 6: the things that Pinky said as callbacks. So that's something
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: that you can't fake or script. And it showed her
- 1:04:22Speaker 6: prowess in a space where your value can be measured
- 1:04:25Speaker 6: by your performance in situations like that. So shout out
- 1:04:30Speaker 6: to Angela Oakley, like once again proven all of us
- 1:04:32Speaker 6: dry who knew she was a star last season, that
- 1:04:35Speaker 6: what she showed herself to have the capability to do
- 1:04:38Speaker 6: in that scene is not something that everyone can do,
- 1:04:42Speaker 6: and it is something that adds to her value in
- 1:04:45Speaker 6: the space. So I watch it over and over and
- 1:04:47Speaker 6: over and over and over again. And she looked the
- 1:04:49Speaker 6: fuck good while she did it too. Did you see
- 1:04:51Speaker 6: her on the walk up? Have you seen Angela's body
- 1:04:54Speaker 6: this season?
- 1:04:55Speaker 5: They all real quick, they all been.
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: Looking good because Drew looked, oh my gosh, so right.
- 1:05:06Speaker 8: She got the proportions of the outfits right.
- 1:05:09Speaker 5: Be during that shout out to them.
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: I never canceled chrisms from my employees. How can you
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: host the giveaway but you old.
- 1:05:18Speaker 5: People and playing with her for real?
- 1:05:25Speaker 7: Like Pinky got mad and was like bitch, and then
- 1:05:29Speaker 7: again when your pony gets emotional, you have won the match.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: Talking so Blue, Blue, what were your thoughts on the match?
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: What were your favorite moments that was said? And who
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: do you think won?
- 1:05:45Speaker 9: When Pinky tried to attack Angela's appearance, I felt bad.
- 1:05:48Speaker 8: I was like, oh, you're having an off day, Like.
- 1:05:51Speaker 9: You're the one that I have been defending for not
- 1:05:53Speaker 9: having the lace front, not having the things that. So
- 1:05:55Speaker 9: for Pinky to attack, to attack Angela for her appearance,
- 1:05:58Speaker 9: and Angela's like, I look great. What do you want
- 1:06:01Speaker 9: to pick at? Like which part of me that's amazing
- 1:06:02Speaker 9: that you want to talk about? Because I look great?
- 1:06:04Speaker 9: I said, I already knew that she was about to lose,
- 1:06:07Speaker 9: because when you go after a woman's appearance and she's
- 1:06:09Speaker 9: clear that she's that bitch and she's just waiting for
- 1:06:11Speaker 9: you to catch up, it's.
- 1:06:13Speaker 8: Pretty much a rap.
- 1:06:13Speaker 9: At that point, I haven't missing somebody stand up, the
- 1:06:16Speaker 9: storm off and sit back down immediately.
- 1:06:18Speaker 8: That already already is an l for me again. Picky.
- 1:06:20Speaker 8: You know, you guys know I love Pinky. She had
- 1:06:22Speaker 8: an off day.
- 1:06:22Speaker 9: My thing about Angela and Pinky that I love and
- 1:06:24Speaker 9: why I think they're both such great hires. But in
- 1:06:26Speaker 9: my opinion, and Angel's probably the best new hire since
- 1:06:29Speaker 9: the original cast, I would die on this hill. I
- 1:06:32Speaker 9: think had we seen her with the knie knees and
- 1:06:35Speaker 9: the Porscha's in the old days, she would have fit
- 1:06:38Speaker 9: right in. She's vintage Housewives of Atlanta, right, Carlos, you
- 1:06:41Speaker 9: should have been producing her to be perfectly honest. And
- 1:06:44Speaker 9: when they had that back and forth and Pinky was like, oh,
- 1:06:47Speaker 9: I'm not about to wear this lady out, and they
- 1:06:49Speaker 9: both kind of smirked at each other like we're good.
- 1:06:51Speaker 8: Were good, Yeah, bitch, we good, and they went back
- 1:06:53Speaker 8: to laughing. I love that. That is two professionals who
- 1:06:58Speaker 8: came to do their job.
- 1:06:59Speaker 9: I love I love the resolutions, the fact that they
- 1:07:03Speaker 9: were able to go there and give one of the
- 1:07:05Speaker 9: best reasons, the best read we've seen this season, to
- 1:07:07Speaker 9: the point where.
- 1:07:08Speaker 8: Even was like, oh my god, I love this.
- 1:07:10Speaker 9: They're the same person both bankrupt, right, litle licking in
- 1:07:13Speaker 9: the confessionals because she's a confessional gangster. But to go
- 1:07:16Speaker 9: toe to toe, do your job, clock in, and then
- 1:07:19Speaker 9: clock back out and go back to eating your charcooterie plate,
- 1:07:21Speaker 9: that is a true professional. I think that Angela, Pinky,
- 1:07:25Speaker 9: and Porsche are impressing me in ways that I was
- 1:07:28Speaker 9: not expecting. Porscha, who used to fight everybody, now knows
- 1:07:32Speaker 9: how to stay composed and ignore bage and just clock in.
- 1:07:35Speaker 9: Angelo has been gold since day one. Pinky my favorite
- 1:07:38Speaker 9: MVP newbie. I think those women are single handedly saving
- 1:07:42Speaker 9: this season.
- 1:07:43Speaker 6: And Pinky is an entrepreneur, so she can't quit. That's
- 1:07:46Speaker 6: why she wouldn't give up in that argument A little bit.
- 1:07:51Speaker 6: That was Pinky's entrepreneurial spirit that was making her hold on.
- 1:07:54Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:07:56Speaker 8: I like that she can lose dustin.
- 1:07:58Speaker 9: I love somebody who can take an l and it
- 1:08:01Speaker 9: off and continue.
- 1:08:03Speaker 4: And she hasn't listened.
- 1:08:04Speaker 7: Not to take away from Pinky, Pinky has some good reads.
- 1:08:06Speaker 7: She said I should buy your fore closed properties, and
- 1:08:09Speaker 7: I did like that angel kept her composion. She could
- 1:08:11Speaker 7: have like tookn it, taken it bad when she's She's like, yeah.
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: I foreclosure and it did not affect her.
- 1:08:19Speaker 7: But they both I'm in the confessionals with their bracelet
- 1:08:23Speaker 7: falling off was the perfect touch.
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: It was good.
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: My favorite line was when Pinky said, your husband don't
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: gonna like you, and then Angela goes, what about the
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: woman living in your basement?
- 1:08:36Speaker 4: Who's the basement? What is that about?
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: Oh, they're listen, we'll see what happens.
- 1:08:41Speaker 8: But who's in the basement. Carlos tell us, I.
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: Don't know who's in the basement.
- 1:08:49Speaker 6: Mama went her mama over there to helping them with
- 1:08:51Speaker 6: the kids in the house.
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: Yeah, so listen.
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: Because I don't want to spoil because I have to
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: make sure that I was gonna say nothing that I
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: know when the streets, I know the Atlanta streets, and
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: there are rumors about Pinky.
- 1:09:10Speaker 3: Oh Scott, the woman in the basement. Lot of rumors
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: is going to come out based on.
- 1:09:20Speaker 4: You know, some like what room's like, lesbian, like a
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: sex nothing.
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: Like like the.
- 1:09:26Speaker 6: Lord Jesus not that they better not be trying to
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: say that Pinky's husband is cheating on her, because based
- 1:09:33Speaker 6: on what I spend in that last episode, Pinky got
- 1:09:36Speaker 6: a good ass, motherfucking husband. The way that he sprung
- 1:09:39Speaker 6: right in the action when she started talking about that
- 1:09:41Speaker 6: bankruptcy shit and he and I'm not talking about offering
- 1:09:45Speaker 6: the financial help with the five million dollars, which was remarkable.
- 1:09:49Speaker 6: I'm talking about the way that he hugged her and
- 1:09:51Speaker 6: he was he immediately just dialed into her emotional needs
- 1:09:55Speaker 6: in that moment and had the other layer of the money.
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: That's a good.
- 1:10:01Speaker 4: Not a baby you want.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: You miss to cow Peaky has a slutty that you
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: actually want.
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: All I'll say is watch the rest of the season.
- 1:10:16Speaker 8: But it will it.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: Will, it will, it will, you'll put two and two together.
- 1:10:20Speaker 4: Can I stay there?
- 1:10:21Speaker 7: But give the other girls like y'all better do y'all jobs,
- 1:10:25Speaker 7: because this is they bringing it. Pinky Angel brought it
- 1:10:29Speaker 7: and some of the let who am I gonna say
- 1:10:32Speaker 7: you name?
- 1:10:32Speaker 4: Because you're gonna say I'm Hayen step up?
- 1:10:36Speaker 7: Because the newbies are bringing it and giving us something
- 1:10:39Speaker 7: to talk about.
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: You they're both in dead, they're both bri.
- 1:10:45Speaker 8: Girl.
- 1:10:46Speaker 4: But if I stayed I'm a hater.
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:10:49Speaker 8: Happy single to Mario, to everybody who celebrates.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: Tomorrow, Tomorrow and rain drops enjoy y'all week, Love you guys,
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: See you next Monday.
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: Love y'all by Cardi and Blue Load