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- 0:27Speaker 2: How are you man doing good?
- 0:30Speaker 1: Are you better than Derek Carr and Alvin Kamara?
- 0:34Speaker 3: Apparently?
- 0:35Speaker 1: So let's delve into all this get I guess let's
- 0:38Speaker 1: start with Carr.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Yeah, all these reports are.
- 0:41Speaker 1: That he's going to be shut down for the year,
- 0:43Speaker 1: but that he won't play again this year. Darren Rizzy
- 0:46Speaker 1: continues to be defiant. Where do you fall on this
- 0:49Speaker 1: with Derek Carr?
- 0:51Speaker 2: I think it's semantics over the timetable. I mean, I
- 0:54Speaker 2: think everything we've reported, and almost everything everyone reported has
- 0:58Speaker 2: been pretty accurate. I mean there's significant fractures in his
- 1:02Speaker 2: non throwing hand. Ideally, you know that would be a
- 1:06Speaker 2: timetable of whatever four to six weeks, three to four weeks,
- 1:09Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. We constantly see people
- 1:13Speaker 2: who try to beat the timetable and play as soon
- 1:16Speaker 2: as they're cleared to wrap it up and function. Pete
- 1:19Speaker 2: Werner came back in a week, Alvin Kameric came back
- 1:21Speaker 2: in a week. They didn't miss any games, Josh Allen,
- 1:25Speaker 2: They've referenced justin Herbert, they played with injuries on their hands.
- 1:28Speaker 2: It's somewhere in that in that group, you know, And
- 1:32Speaker 2: three to four weeks means the season, So that's how
- 1:35Speaker 2: it kind of got reported. A couple of times he
- 1:37Speaker 2: could miss multiple weeks, and with only four weeks left
- 1:39Speaker 2: in the season, that means he could miss the whole seasons.
- 1:41Speaker 2: But Carr has been hoping to come back and play
- 1:46Speaker 2: sooner than three or four weeks. The Saints are going
- 1:49Speaker 2: to allow him to try and come back, and if
- 1:52Speaker 2: he's cleared to play, they're going to play him again. So,
- 1:56Speaker 2: you know, and the Saints clearly are not in the
- 1:58Speaker 2: moat of hey this season. This season is a lost cause.
- 2:02Speaker 2: We just want to play the young guy, which is
- 2:04Speaker 2: I think where the fan discourse is. The fan discourse
- 2:07Speaker 2: wants to see put him on, ir come on, I
- 2:09Speaker 2: want to see Rattler, you know, But as Rizzie said today,
- 2:13Speaker 2: he's like he took a common sense approach. He said,
- 2:16Speaker 2: Derek Carr's been ever since I took over his interim coach.
- 2:20Speaker 2: I gave everyone to queen slate. Derek Carr started four
- 2:22Speaker 2: games for me. He's three and one with a passer
- 2:25Speaker 2: rating of one o three. Of course I want him
- 2:27Speaker 2: back if he cleared the play. So obviously the Saints
- 2:30Speaker 2: and fans who are ready to move on to twenty
- 2:32Speaker 2: twenty five have been singing a different tune on that
- 2:36Speaker 2: this entire time.
- 2:38Speaker 1: So what will we learn potentially about Spencer Rattler if
- 2:42Speaker 1: he does start one, two, three remaining games.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think he can only increase our
- 2:49Speaker 2: optimism for him, as he did during the second half
- 2:52Speaker 2: against Washington. I mean, if he struggles, I think we'll
- 2:55Speaker 2: be like, yeah, he's a rookie fifth round pick, and
- 2:58Speaker 2: we're going to see highs and low. If he comes
- 3:01Speaker 2: out and he tears it up and wins at Green
- 3:03Speaker 2: Bay and London Night, or or plays great in really
- 3:07Speaker 2: adverse circumstances against a really tough opponent, then it's going
- 3:12Speaker 2: to be eye opening and it's gonna be really impressive.
- 3:14Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe they'd have to revisit. If he goes
- 3:17Speaker 2: and wins in Green Bay and he looks great, you know,
- 3:19Speaker 2: maybe they have a decision to make. But for now,
- 3:22Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to put all that on Rizzy.
- 3:25Speaker 2: I think our expectations on Rattler. I think all of
- 3:28Speaker 2: our expectations were probably too high for him the first
- 3:32Speaker 2: time he started. I don't think he's as bad as
- 3:35Speaker 2: those first three games looked when he didn't have much
- 3:37Speaker 2: of an offensive line in front of him. He's probably
- 3:40Speaker 2: not as good as this last game looked. We should
- 3:43Speaker 2: probably expect some inconsistency, but obviously there's a lot to
- 3:46Speaker 2: get excited about with him.
- 3:48Speaker 1: It will be tough either way if you don't have
- 3:49Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara and it looks like he might be shut
- 3:52Speaker 1: down for the year. Before we talk about the impact that,
- 3:55Speaker 1: what do we know about Kamara's injury the extent all.
- 3:59Speaker 2: That's yeah, I mean, it's a significant growing injury. They
- 4:05Speaker 2: already pretty much have ruled him out for this week's game.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Barring barring a big surprise, Kamara is going he is
- 4:13Speaker 2: going to try to play. If he can before the
- 4:16Speaker 2: season is over, not just because he wants fifty more
- 4:19Speaker 2: yards to get to a thousand. But I mean we've
- 4:21Speaker 2: seen him as I said, I mean he broke his
- 4:23Speaker 2: hand earlier this season and didn't even take a week off.
- 4:26Speaker 2: I mean that's he played through a hit pointer earlier
- 4:28Speaker 2: this season. That's just kind of his normal pride too,
- 4:31Speaker 2: So he doesn't want to rule it out. But the
- 4:34Speaker 2: injury is I mean, it's kind of a similar story
- 4:37Speaker 2: with the two guys, Like the injury is one that
- 4:39Speaker 2: if you were giving it the proper time to heal,
- 4:42Speaker 2: he wouldn't be back this season. But he's going to
- 4:45Speaker 2: keep working at it until until that clearance doesn't come.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Well, they signed an insurance policy, I would assume with
- 4:54Speaker 1: Clyde Edward z Layer, he was.
- 4:57Speaker 3: At practice today. Did you all get a look at it?
- 5:00Speaker 3: I mean.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Too much? No, I mean they were doing special teams
- 5:05Speaker 2: and uh began some individual position drills when when we
- 5:10Speaker 2: were out there, So nothing that you can like, Hey,
- 5:13Speaker 2: that guy looks great out there, you know. But you know,
- 5:17Speaker 2: obviously even though he hasn't been playing, he's been staying
- 5:21Speaker 2: in game shape and and and you know, on the
- 5:23Speaker 2: roster capable of playing all year, so I don't think
- 5:26Speaker 2: it would take him a lot physically to get up speed.
- 5:28Speaker 2: He would have to learn a playbooks and things like that.
- 5:30Speaker 2: I don't think that's the intention. I don't think that's one.
- 5:33Speaker 2: For one, I mean to have Kendred Miller, who I
- 5:35Speaker 2: would expect to play a lot. If you haven't picked
- 5:38Speaker 2: him up on your fantasy teams yet this year, go check.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Jamal Williams is obviously a veteran who's familiar with playing
- 5:46Speaker 2: in Green Bay. He would be the next part of
- 5:48Speaker 2: that committee. Jordan Mens has been on the team this year.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I don't I don't think it would be like turn
- 5:54Speaker 2: turned to Edwards. Hilaires would be his first game played
- 5:57Speaker 2: of the season and his first week the new team.
- 6:00Speaker 2: It would be hard to expect him to play a significant.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Role in this game, So maybe just like a practice
- 6:06Speaker 1: body this week.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Is jan Rizvy even said it was coincidental that it
- 6:13Speaker 2: happened at the same time as Kamara's injury because he
- 6:15Speaker 2: just got released by Kansas City this week, and he
- 6:18Speaker 2: actually said, he's a guy we've always liked, always had
- 6:21Speaker 2: our eye on, and we wanted to get in the building.
- 6:23Speaker 2: He made it sound like they would have done this
- 6:25Speaker 2: even if Alan was healthy, and sort of, hey, let's see,
- 6:29Speaker 2: let's take a look at this guy for the next
- 6:30Speaker 2: few weeks, so that that feels more like long term,
- 6:34Speaker 2: let's take a look at this guy than then expecting
- 6:37Speaker 2: to see him playing at any point before the season.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Is over, to be honest, So maybe a possibility for
- 6:42Speaker 1: next year.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Maybe. Yeah, I mean a young player became available. Last
- 6:47Speaker 2: time they did that with a former Chiefs player, he
- 6:49Speaker 2: turned into their number one receiver.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Yeah, who missed Marcos Valez Scaley who missed practice today
- 6:56Speaker 1: as well?
- 6:57Speaker 2: Yeah, what a means mission?
- 6:59Speaker 3: Yeah? How about that? Sometimes it just works out.
- 7:01Speaker 1: But what I mean, all right, so who's Spencer Rot
- 7:05Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball to?
- 7:07Speaker 2: Uh? Well, NBS is gonna play? Uhar. Darren Rizzy made
- 7:13Speaker 2: that team. Darren Rizzy made that seem like it was
- 7:18Speaker 2: just precautionary today and he said he even could have
- 7:23Speaker 2: popped probably practiced today, but we just wanted to give
- 7:25Speaker 2: him extra day. And I expect him back out there tomorrow,
- 7:27Speaker 2: So I do think he will be playing in this game.
- 7:31Speaker 2: And then yeah, all the other usual uh playing the suspects.
- 7:36Speaker 2: I don't think we haven't gotten to chrys O Love yet.
- 7:38Speaker 2: I'm sure that'll be the next transition.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Yep.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Uh he he will not be playing yet in this game,
- 7:43Speaker 2: he said, pretty doubtful, probably doubtful, but almost assuredly he
- 7:49Speaker 2: will not be playing yet in this game. So it'll
- 7:51Speaker 2: be n BS Foster Morrow and Jawan Johnson, Kendre Miller
- 7:56Speaker 2: and uh Jamal Williams H Wilson. Uh who am I
- 8:02Speaker 2: forgetting but means forgiving at least? No, probably not Pettis
- 8:08Speaker 2: Uh Tennis Pettison, Kevin Austin.
- 8:11Speaker 3: There we go, there they are there.
- 8:13Speaker 1: You remember remember years ago when Tony Kornheiser made a
- 8:16Speaker 1: joke on Monday Night Football about Sean Payton final receivers
- 8:18Speaker 1: on Bourbon Street, and a lot of people got got
- 8:21Speaker 1: offended by that.
- 8:22Speaker 3: Like that's what this feels like. It's like, who who's
- 8:24Speaker 3: playing receiver?
- 8:24Speaker 2: Drew Brees? Drew Brees. I remember on Thanksgiving Night that
- 8:28Speaker 2: they became the first player in NFL history to throw
- 8:31Speaker 2: four different touchdown passes to four different undrafted players. It's
- 8:35Speaker 2: a tradition around here.
- 8:37Speaker 3: I just God, God blessed they tried to.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I mean, look, they drafted Chris Lave in round one,
- 8:43Speaker 1: they drafted Brandon Cooks. In round one they drafted Michael Thomas,
- 8:46Speaker 1: and round two, I mean they have invested in the position,
- 8:48Speaker 1: but my goodness, uh yeah, it seems more like a
- 8:51Speaker 1: Mark Marcus Colston seventh round tight end from Hostra come
- 8:54Speaker 1: on down, be the ultime leading receiver. All right, So
- 8:56Speaker 1: let's talk about a Lave then? Might we assume he
- 8:59Speaker 1: plays again at some boy this year?
- 9:01Speaker 2: Boy, it sounds like it. You know, again, we like
- 9:06Speaker 2: to this is the story with every one of these guys.
- 9:10Speaker 2: We like to be like, well, you're five and nine
- 9:11Speaker 2: and there's only three ways up. Just shut it down.
- 9:14Speaker 2: But there's you know, there's individuals that stake here. If Alave,
- 9:19Speaker 2: you know, Rizzy said he was really he called a
- 9:22Speaker 2: great news. He said he was really happy for him.
- 9:24Speaker 2: He said Chris Olave was smiling. Chris Olave wanted to
- 9:27Speaker 2: get cleared. He got cleared. He wants to play. So
- 9:30Speaker 2: while while obviously there, you know, we want to say
- 9:34Speaker 2: these games don't mean anything, it sounds like a Lave
- 9:37Speaker 2: wants to get back on the field, play another game,
- 9:39Speaker 2: maybe kick his off season off the right way. I
- 9:41Speaker 2: don't know, but you know, for what for for whatever
- 9:44Speaker 2: purposes that he wants to play. These guys are all competitors.
- 9:47Speaker 2: They want to play. He wants to even though they're
- 9:50Speaker 2: you know, by the time he gets back on the field,
- 9:52Speaker 2: that obviously will be mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. So
- 9:55Speaker 2: I would almost be sure of that within a few
- 9:58Speaker 2: days from now they'll be me it's medically eliminated from
- 10:01Speaker 2: the playoffs. But it sounds like the efforts are going
- 10:04Speaker 2: to be for him to play a game or two
- 10:06Speaker 2: before it's all done.
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- 10:26Speaker 1: play Green Bay on Monday Night football. They are too
- 10:28Speaker 1: touchdown underdog. Any reason to believe this might go?
- 10:31Speaker 3: Well?
- 10:34Speaker 2: I mean, who was I just talking to where I said?
- 10:36Speaker 2: I mean, the reason is because sometimes the NFL NFL
- 10:40Speaker 2: is but unlikely. I mean, look, they have their whole
- 10:46Speaker 2: offensive line together. You know, they put up a fight
- 10:51Speaker 2: against the playoff team in Washington, they put up a
- 10:53Speaker 2: fight against the playoff team in Los Angeles. But no,
- 10:56Speaker 2: I mean there's just too much missing. I mean, not
- 10:59Speaker 2: only not only are you expecting Spencer Rattler to have
- 11:03Speaker 2: to go in there and have a good game, but
- 11:06Speaker 2: without Alvin Kamara would be the ultimate security blanket for him.
- 11:10Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna need turnovers. This team doesn't turn
- 11:13Speaker 2: the ball over much. They're gonna need sacked. Jordan Love
- 11:16Speaker 2: doesn't get sacked. But you're gonna need to stop the run.
- 11:18Speaker 2: The things don't stop the run well, and they have
- 11:20Speaker 2: one of the top running backs in the league. Like
- 11:23Speaker 2: it's it's hard to paint that picture except for weird
- 11:26Speaker 2: things happen sometimes.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Right, three games to go, the Saints finish. I think
- 11:32Speaker 1: they get one more Mike, I mean, I think they'll
- 11:34Speaker 1: be the Raiders. Where's that gonna put him ninth tenth
- 11:39Speaker 1: somewhere around there in the draft?
- 11:41Speaker 2: Yeah, one more win. There's there's not a lot of
- 11:44Speaker 2: teams they can pass up. Realistically, there at five. There's
- 11:49Speaker 2: only one team at four, and that's the Jets. Well,
- 11:52Speaker 2: that the Jets and the Bears are both at four,
- 11:55Speaker 2: hoping they win more than the Saints. I don't think
- 11:57Speaker 2: that the three win teams will win enough game games,
- 12:00Speaker 2: you know. In the Saints, I'll lose enough games. So
- 12:03Speaker 2: really don't don't see a path for them getting much
- 12:05Speaker 2: higher than ninth or eight. And if they pull off
- 12:08Speaker 2: a surprise win, uh, you know, then then they end
- 12:12Speaker 2: up back in that same team, lower teams that we've
- 12:15Speaker 2: seen them per years. But but yeah, maybe around tent
- 12:17Speaker 2: with one more win.
- 12:19Speaker 1: All right, uh snowy Lambeau. We'll see it on Monday
- 12:22Speaker 1: Night Football. And now obviously Spencer Rattler can go get
- 12:25Speaker 1: something done. Mike Triplett read about it there at New
- 12:27Speaker 1: Orleans dot Football. He's on Twitter at Mike triplet Our
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- 12:35Speaker 3: Okay, man, we appreciate it. Thank you.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Yeah, Merry Christmas. We'll talk to you after Christmas.
- 12:40Speaker 3: We'll look forward to it.