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Ari Temkin on the preseason AP Poll, Jayden Daniels, Ryan Day moving OSU's senior day to week 1 + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome, How are you, sir?
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Speaker 3: I'm great O. Anybody doing all right?
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you jumping back on.
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Speaker 1: As we march closer to the college football season. Just
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Speaker 1: a couple thursdays from now, we'll have Utah back in
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Speaker 1: action and they will have players wearing number.
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Speaker 2: Five on both sides of the ball.
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Speaker 1: I love the way that this whole dispute between Jane
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Speaker 1: Daniels and LSU was mimified by other sports organizations over
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Speaker 1: the weekend.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, we'll start there with a little laugh.
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on this whole situation where a Heisman Trophy
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Speaker 1: winner wants his number to be protected, not worn by
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Speaker 1: this corner picket, and now there's cease and desist, there's
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Speaker 1: legal letters being thrown around, there's hey, give me the
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Speaker 1: school's copy of the Heisman trophy.
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Speaker 2: It feels kind of petty. What are your thoughts?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, extremely, And this has got to be one of
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Speaker 3: the first cases in which somebody that is trying to
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Speaker 3: actually protect their NIL actually has done more damage to
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Speaker 3: their name, image and likeness in terms of their image,
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Speaker 3: which is exactly the case here. In order to protect
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Speaker 3: your NIL, you've really hurt your Q rating, which is
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Speaker 3: not going to help long term in terms of, you know,
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Speaker 3: your ability to market yourself and leverage that name, image
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Speaker 3: and likeness and look, I mean, I think this is
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Speaker 3: a big year for Jaden Daniels, and so for this
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Speaker 3: to sort of be priority number one, I mean, I'm
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Speaker 3: sure it's not completely but it certainly seems like it is.
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Speaker 3: And perception is reality, whether it's his mom behind the
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Speaker 3: scenes calling the shots or whatever it is. It's just
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Speaker 3: a really bad look. And I think like all joking
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Speaker 3: aside o. See, in some ways this is very much
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Speaker 3: indicative of why a lot of people are sort of
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Speaker 3: ticked off with the nil era from a standpoint of
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Speaker 3: you didn't invent football. You didn't invent the number five.
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Speaker 3: That's the joke here, right, Like you did not invent
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Speaker 3: the number five. You're not the greatest player in the
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Speaker 3: history of LSU. LSU's had far better ambassadors. LSU's had
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Speaker 3: far better players. You had a magical season to not
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Speaker 3: win a national championship, one, a Heisman Trophy or a
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Speaker 3: top five pick, Like, you've done very well for yourself.
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Speaker 3: But I just think a lot of people and fans
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Speaker 3: in particular, are set up with this idea of like,
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Speaker 3: you know, these athletes believe themselves to be the greatest
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Speaker 3: gift to football and that they're basically the only people
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Speaker 3: that matter, and you know, and it's like there's this
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Speaker 3: whole historical context for LSU, and I'm sure number five
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Speaker 3: has a historical context. It's just a joke of you know, hey,
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Speaker 3: this sport existed well before you. It doesn't survive based
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Speaker 3: on you, and it'll be long, it'll be gone here,
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Speaker 3: and it'll be live far beyond your life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a really I mean, it's an
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Speaker 1: important sort of zoom out and see a different perspective lesson,
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Speaker 1: probably for other players around the country, because I get it,
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Speaker 1: you're nineteen, you're twenty years old.
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Speaker 2: The world revolves around.
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Speaker 1: You, especially when you're one of these, you know, blue
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Speaker 1: chip type athletes, and you're like, I need to wear
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Speaker 1: this number.
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Speaker 2: All right, cool, Well.
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Speaker 1: Now your predecessor who wore that number, who's you know whatever,
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Speaker 1: three years older than you, has a problem with that.
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Speaker 2: You feel justified in wanting to wear it.
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Speaker 1: He feels justified, and hey, why should you.
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Speaker 2: Get to wear it?
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Speaker 1: And really, like all parties have to examine, like wait,
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Speaker 1: what is by level of importance to LSU football, like
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Speaker 1: you said, to the game at large, etc. It's a
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Speaker 1: very very odd thing. I understand why numbers mean something
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Speaker 1: to people, Right, you're sentimental about it. Your dad wore
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Speaker 1: the number, your grandpa wore the number. You've only ever
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Speaker 1: had a good game wearing that number. Whatever, superstition, all
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Speaker 1: that stuff. At the end of the day, especially for
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Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels, like you just mentioned.
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Speaker 2: This feels like the biggest disaster.
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Speaker 1: It's a lose lose fight now because even if the
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Speaker 1: kid doesn't wear it, everyone's going to be making fun
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Speaker 1: of you. And if he does, not only did you
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Speaker 1: lose on that front, but everyone knows that you were
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Speaker 1: at it.
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean you are. You're now the brunt of
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Speaker 3: all these jokes. And you know, look, I mean I
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Speaker 3: get you've done a lot in your career and you
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Speaker 3: know you're hoping to hit together a long NFL career
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Speaker 3: that ends up with a gold jacket. But you've got
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Speaker 3: a lot to prove, you know, in this in this
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Speaker 3: career in order to do that. And you know, again,
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Speaker 3: I just go back to like this idea of entitlement
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Speaker 3: and like you know, LSU football in particular, and much
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Speaker 3: in the same way of Utah football. But I mean,
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Speaker 3: there is a long history. There's major historical context here.
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Speaker 3: There are plenty of players and and and teams and coaches.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's I just think there are probably a
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Speaker 3: lot of fans fatigued with the Nil era, but maybe
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Speaker 3: not as much as they're fatigued with this part of
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Speaker 3: the Nile era. Just this idea of I'm bigger than
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Speaker 3: the game. I'm bigger than LSU. I mean, we just
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Speaker 3: got through it this in many ways with Darren Peterson
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Speaker 3: at Kansas, where it's like you're just you're not as
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Speaker 3: big as the program as you think you are. And
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Speaker 3: that's just in many ways the element that we live
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Speaker 3: in right now. We have an era of extreme entitlement,
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Speaker 3: and that's what this is a product of. I'm entitled
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Speaker 3: to forever have the number five associated with me. Dude,
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Speaker 3: you were at LSU for two years. How many lettermen
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Speaker 3: they've had, how many you know, elite four year starters
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Speaker 3: they've had that have gone on to be in the
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Speaker 3: College Football Hall of Fame and some and some of
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Speaker 3: them have gone on to have the Hall of Fame
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Speaker 3: NFL careers, like there just seems to be all that
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Speaker 3: lost on current players, and it is I think very much,
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Speaker 3: you know, upsetting too many of the long term fans
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Speaker 3: of the sport. Like if you're a long time LSU fan,
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Speaker 3: if you live in Baton, Rouge or Shreveport or New
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Speaker 3: Orleans and you've been a long time LSU fan, like
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Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels hit a good run, but like Joe Burrow
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Speaker 3: is a bigger deal. LSU ed Orgeron is a bigger deal.
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Speaker 3: I mean, just go back and go through the great
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks and play is a national Nick Sabin, I mean,
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Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels thinks way high, more highly of himself, I
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Speaker 3: think than many of the LSU fans do. And I'm
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Speaker 3: sure again LSU fans you know like his time, and
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Speaker 3: he was a really good player. I was at the
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Speaker 3: LSU Alabama game where he had through a touchdown pass
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Speaker 3: you overtime to win the game. It was it was iconic,
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Speaker 3: but like you know, there's been many iconic moments of
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Speaker 3: that football program. And that's sort of the point here
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Speaker 3: is you're just a caretaker, you know, of this amazing program.
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Speaker 3: You're not the centerpiece of that program. And it feels
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Speaker 3: like this makes you look like you are the centerpiece.
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Speaker 1: All right, Tim can our guest here on the Sean
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Speaker 1: O'Connell show, talking all things college football. The AP poll
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Speaker 1: came out and same team's same order, slightly different placement
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Speaker 1: for a couple of them from the Big twelve. Texas
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Speaker 1: Tech is your highest ranked Big twelve team. Then BYU
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Speaker 1: you taught number twenty one, Houston sneaking inside the top
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Speaker 1: twenty five. So no real surprises there. That's what we
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Speaker 1: saw from the Coach's Poll. In a lot of public
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Speaker 1: are kind of putting out the same thing. You've gone through,
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Speaker 1: and you've looked at the rosters of these teams, You've
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Speaker 1: looked at the schedules for these teams. The greatest upward
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Speaker 1: mobility in the greatest risk for falling down of those
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Speaker 1: preseason ranked teams.
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Speaker 2: Who do you think it is?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, as much as you know, we want
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Speaker 3: to make this seem like more of a joke, or
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Speaker 3: not a joke, but more of a talking point, Like
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Speaker 3: I don't think we can underplay the importance of the
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Speaker 3: AP Top twenty five, the preseason one in terms of
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Speaker 3: you know, the college football playoff poll. I mean, it
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Speaker 3: is a usually influential poll just in terms of the
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Speaker 3: regular season. Should it be No? Is it absolutely? And look,
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Speaker 3: I'll say this, I think it's important for the Big
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Speaker 3: twelve to have the teams that are on the AP
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Speaker 3: Top twenty five right now stay there and you know,
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Speaker 3: and push up and not find themselves with early losses.
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Speaker 3: I Mean, the biggest issue right now with the Big
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Speaker 3: twelve is per second and at this point, perception is
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Speaker 3: the Big twelve is just not very good. It's a bunch,
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Speaker 3: you know, the average teams, and then there's Texas Tech,
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Speaker 3: who you know, I think most people would observe aren't
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Speaker 3: exactly a player on the national stage because of what
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Speaker 3: happened last year. And you know, it's funny. I've been
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Speaker 3: We've been talking a lot on the countdown to Kickoff
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Speaker 3: about what's happening lately, and I've only become more and
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Speaker 3: more enamored with Utah, with Devin dan Pier, with what
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Speaker 3: they've done and lead up to Camp. I mean the
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Speaker 3: story with the scrimmage recently, where you know, they basically
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Speaker 3: caught an audible that worked successfully but was not a
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Speaker 3: play that Kevin mcgibbn had installed or even their their
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Speaker 3: their quarterbacks coach. And basically the I think was Steve
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Speaker 3: Bartle who wrote about this Fortical Sports, basically saying like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: this was a group that got together in Arizona independently
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Speaker 3: and put this together. I think that says a lot
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Speaker 3: about Devin damp Pierre. I think it says a lot
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Speaker 3: about their potential this year, and it says a lot
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Speaker 3: about I think where they are minus the offensive lineman
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Speaker 3: they lost so it's a long way sean to say
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Speaker 3: like I think the right right pieces or in this
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Speaker 3: ap top for twenty five, I certainly think of the
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Speaker 3: four best teams of the Big Twelve being those four.
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Speaker 3: And so now it's about living up to the expectations,
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Speaker 3: because if there's a bad loss, you know, with one
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Speaker 3: of these teams early on, that will have a major
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Speaker 3: stain on the conference. Should it know? Will it? Absolutely?
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Speaker 3: The conference just has very few games for which it's judged,
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Speaker 3: and so as long as they kind of hold serve
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Speaker 3: and the teams that are expected to be good stay good,
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Speaker 3: I think the perception of the Big Twelve will continue
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Speaker 3: to grow. But I mean Houston Texas Tech Week three
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Speaker 3: as one of the starting points for conference play is
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Speaker 3: a big one, you know byu in Arizona Week two
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Speaker 3: is a really good one early on. So there's some
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Speaker 3: really good early games that could have an indication on
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Speaker 3: how this could go.
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Speaker 1: The other polls, there's like the also receiving votes and
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Speaker 1: Arizona is in that category, right, Houston sneaking into the
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Speaker 1: top twenty five Arizona and that like, hey maybe kind
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Speaker 1: of position, is there anyone else for you? I mean
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Speaker 1: Arizona is on everyone's mind. We've talked about them before,
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Speaker 1: but if all things go well for the Big Twelve
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Speaker 1: Conference and you get a couple of surprise teams, then
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Speaker 1: you know, if it's Arizona or could it be Arizona State,
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Speaker 1: is there somebody else that As we've done more study
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Speaker 1: and gotten more ready for this season, you're like, all right,
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Speaker 1: I'm convinced they're going to be a top twenty five
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Speaker 1: team at least.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, I'm actually kind
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Speaker 3: of surprised that Oklahoma State wasn't the others receiving vote
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Speaker 3: category because they've definitely been an off season Darling from
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Speaker 3: you know, a national perspective, I'm still curious about Oklahoma
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Speaker 3: State's defense and you know, will it be able to
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Speaker 3: carry them towards the top of the Big Twelve. And remember,
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Speaker 3: I mean this is a team that has not won
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Speaker 3: a game against an FCS opponent in two years and
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Speaker 3: has lost eighteen straight Big Twelve games. So you know,
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Speaker 3: they probably need to walk a little bit before they
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Speaker 3: before they can run. In terms of the crawl walk
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Speaker 3: run situation that they're in right now, I'm losing two
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Speaker 3: games that they're winning zero Big twelve games in two
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Speaker 3: seasons is more of a crawl before he could walk
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Speaker 3: type situation Baylor to me, and you know, look, maybe
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Speaker 3: I'm the boy who cried wolf with Baylor because I
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Speaker 3: picked him to win the Big Twelve last year and
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Speaker 3: that was an absolute disaster. But I'm really high on
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Speaker 3: Baylor as being one of those teams simply because I
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Speaker 3: think this defense is going to be very good. Osiah Wheeler,
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Speaker 3: who spent the last three years at Indiana then obviously
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Speaker 3: win a national championship in the middle of that defense.
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Speaker 3: He was cleared and is now eligible to play for
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Speaker 3: at least the first three months of the season, and
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Speaker 3: we'll see what ends up happening with that. I think
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Speaker 3: their defensive line, led by Wheeler, is going to be
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Speaker 3: really good. And I really like Joe Klanderman, who longtime
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Speaker 3: defensive cordator Kansas State, who at his time in Kansas
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Speaker 3: State like his worst defenses were average. At this point,
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Speaker 3: Baylor fans, I think would take an average defense. And
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Speaker 3: then the last one I'll mention is TCU the biggest
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Speaker 3: thing holding TCU back, and I would say the same
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Speaker 3: case for Arizona. Here is their schedule. Arizona and TCU
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Speaker 3: have brutal schedules. Arizona has to play all three of
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Speaker 3: the top teams from the Big twelve last year, Texas, Tech, UYU,
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Speaker 3: and Utah. They also start off the season, you know,
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Speaker 3: playing BUYU League two, which is really tough. But TCU,
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Speaker 3: to me is another one of these teams that they play.
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Speaker 3: You know, they play next week. So next week is
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Speaker 3: a game week for them as they play a week
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Speaker 3: from Saturday, the twenty ninth in Dublin against North Carolina
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Speaker 3: And it starts with that game because expectations are you're
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Speaker 3: going to beat UNC like you beat him last year. Well,
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Speaker 3: I think North Carolina should be improved. By God, they
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Speaker 3: can't be any worse, so that'll be a tough one.
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Speaker 3: But they have I think a total shift in terms
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Speaker 3: of their offensive philosophy. You know, they hired Gordon Samus,
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Speaker 3: who comes in from Yukon. They've had a really ground
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Speaker 3: and pound offense at Yukon that was very successful. And
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Speaker 3: then Jaden Craig comes in from Harvard is another guy
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Speaker 3: that you know, was a guy that didn't turn the
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Speaker 3: ball over a lot. They wanted to be more consistent
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Speaker 3: on the ground and they wanted to have an offense
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Speaker 3: that didn't turn the ball over because they feel like
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Speaker 3: they've got a really good defense, especially starting with their
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Speaker 3: defensive line. And I see one of the things I'm
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Speaker 3: always looking for in terms of preseason expectations are how
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Speaker 3: good are you upfront on both lines? Suscrimmagion. I think
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Speaker 3: there's few teams that are as good upfront on both
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Speaker 3: sides the ball as TCU. So TC's not one of
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Speaker 3: those teams to watch out for.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day is moving Senior Day to Week one, so
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Speaker 1: it's not the same week as Michigan. This feels like
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Speaker 1: a terrible move. The reaction to it has been pretty terrible.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is nearly the same level of prs
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Speaker 1: we just talked about with the Jade and Daniels situation.
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Speaker 1: What is Ryan Day doing He's already won a national championship.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to reinvent a wheel here. He's not
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Speaker 1: like a first year head coach who's I don't know
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Speaker 1: how we're gonna manage this Michigan hype.
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Speaker 2: Why is he doing this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a great question. I mean, Senior Day
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Speaker 3: is inherently the last opportunity for seniors to play on
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Speaker 3: their home field, right yeah, I mean, this hasn't changed
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Speaker 3: in definition yet, has it. So he's completely changed what
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Speaker 3: it is, taken everything about it out, and like, the
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Speaker 3: reality is you're only punishing the guys who have benefited
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Speaker 3: the program the most, because in this transient time, the
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Speaker 3: idea of having four or five year guys at the
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Speaker 3: same place is unheard of, and the majority of guys
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Speaker 3: that participate in Senior Day across the country are guys
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Speaker 3: that have spent one, you know, maybe two, perhaps three years,
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Speaker 3: but for the most part, just that one season with them.
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Speaker 3: And so you know, you're really most stringently punishing the
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Speaker 3: guys who absolutely benefit the program the most. So, yeah,
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Speaker 3: this is foolish, This is insane. This makes absolutely no sense.
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Speaker 3: And again you're like actually taking away from the folks
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Speaker 3: that have helped you the most in terms of your
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Speaker 3: program by sticking around, by being around there the most,
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Speaker 3: by setting the example, or by sending the tone this
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Speaker 3: is supposed to be what you know, their celebration. I
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Speaker 3: mean it it's just FUNNYOC. Like, the further along we get,
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Speaker 3: the less this is going to resemble college sports, and
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Speaker 3: some of the things that we love the most about
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Speaker 3: college sports are now being sucked away for what? So
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Speaker 3: what availble because it's a Michigan game, Like, come on,
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Speaker 3: this is as long as I mean you talk about
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Speaker 3: high school football and college football. Nobody has to be
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Speaker 3: explained in America what senior Night is and what it means.
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Speaker 3: If you ever participated in one of those as an
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Speaker 3: athlete yourself, you know what it means. And you know
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Speaker 3: that in many ways, as a freshman or sophomore, junior,
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Speaker 3: you get to watch as some of your teammates and
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Speaker 3: friends and family do the exact same thing. It is
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Speaker 3: very much, you know, I mean, it's I hate to
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Speaker 3: be like to play to these cliches and stuff like.
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Speaker 3: This is what makes college football different. This is what
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Speaker 3: makes college sports different. And by doing this, you're sort
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Speaker 3: of playing into the idea that it's not any different
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Speaker 3: that it is the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: Do you think after this backlash that they stick with
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Speaker 1: this plan or can he can he say, I mean
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Speaker 1: he's by coach in Ohio State. Can he say, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's actually a bad idea. We'll do it against Michigan,
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Speaker 1: not against ball freaking State.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I would hope so, I would you know,
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Speaker 3: if there's one thing that is I suppose the positive
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Speaker 3: about the current world we live in it is that
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Speaker 3: there is a lot of public pressure on this kind
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Speaker 3: of stuff, especially when this stuff can be foolish. And
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Speaker 3: this is one of those foolish instances. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: would hope, so I would hope there'd be somebody with
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Speaker 3: a rational brain that's like, what are we doing here?
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Speaker 3: Do we not recognize like what this is all about?
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Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, I know,
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Speaker 3: this is a business and there's tons of money at stake,
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Speaker 3: and this is Ohio State. It's a big deal. But
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Speaker 3: like you know, I mean, we're not going to have
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Speaker 3: caligates before games? Are we not going to have a
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Speaker 3: band anymore? You know? Like these these are all the
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Speaker 3: parts that we have to really protect, quite frankly, if
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Speaker 3: we're going to be stewards of the things that make
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Speaker 3: college football great. This is one of them. This is
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Speaker 3: one of them. This is like think about the guys
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Speaker 3: that didn't play a ton, didn't see a ton of
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Speaker 3: snaps stuck around, I mean, went through two a days
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Speaker 3: when through grueling practices, difficult lifts like all of that
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Speaker 3: just to be recognized on senior night and the last day,
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Speaker 3: like what are we doing?
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Speaker 2: So what are we doing? Ryan Day? Figure it out, Pal.
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Speaker 3: Jerior, My Smith. It's for everybody else, you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean? Like that, that's that's what's being missed here,
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Speaker 3: and that's what makes college sports so great. It's the
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Speaker 3: rooty aspect of it, you know, Like I hate to
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Speaker 3: be cliche, but that's what it is, and that's what
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Speaker 3: makes support great.
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Speaker 1: Well, I hadn't even thought about that aspect of it,
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Speaker 1: as like, we need to. I'm totally with you. We
18:33
Speaker 1: need to do anything we can. I've been on this
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Speaker 1: with rivalries primarily. You need to do anything we can
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Speaker 1: to preserve the things that make college football unique from
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Speaker 1: everything else, right, make college football separate and distinct from
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Whatever those things are, and you just pointed
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Speaker 1: out correctly Senior Night is one of them. We need
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Speaker 1: to preserve those things, desperately need to. Otherwise, like you said,
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Speaker 1: it's just pro football, we're going to get jaded to
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Speaker 1: it and we're going to de emphasize all the pageantry,
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Speaker 1: the tradition, the stuff that has been part of the
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Speaker 1: fabric for one hundred plus years.
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Speaker 3: And you might sit there and be like, oh, this
19:17
Speaker 3: is just one little thing, but like slowly as you
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Speaker 3: see the fabric being peeled away, all of a sudden
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Speaker 3: you'll look up and be like, oh, this isn't the
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Speaker 3: sport that I fall in love with. This is not
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Speaker 3: what I wanted, This is not what I love.
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Speaker 1: And there's honestly, you and I, we have a long
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Speaker 1: way to go before that happens to us. I talk
19:34
Speaker 1: to people every day and day they're already there with
19:37
Speaker 1: the transfer stuff and the NL stuff. Like there's some
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Speaker 1: people that can't get on board with even that.
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Speaker 2: So right, all right, no.
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Speaker 3: And like you could, you could say we're gonna move
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Speaker 3: senior Night, but like effectively you're saying, is Senior Night
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Speaker 3: doesn't happen anymore because, right, you know, moving it to
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Speaker 3: the beginning of the season, it's not Senior Knight. That's
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Speaker 3: just a recognition of seniors at the beginnie of the season.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I could just open the game program and see
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Speaker 1: who's play there last year? Come on, Ryan, all right, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: all right, you're the man. I always appreciate you hopping on, sir.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, I'll see you. Take care of brother you well.
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Speaker 1: Ari Tempkin you can find him on Big twelve Radio.
20:14
Speaker 1: That's on the tune and app at the Big twelve
20:16
Speaker 1: studios and he's doing star Time now for the Haymaker Network.
20:21
Speaker 1: Star Time is Dallas for abab you Dallas Cowboys fans
20:25
Speaker 1: out there. I am not one of you, all right,
20:27
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't go that far and supporting my
20:30
Speaker 1: guy Ari Tempkin, but he's the best. I do love
20:33
Speaker 1: him so big. Thanks to Ari for hopping on. Okay,
20:38
Speaker 1: tailgates are happening very very soon summer months, these last
20:45
Speaker 1: few days before your kids go back to school.
20:48
Speaker 2: But we got you know, we got good weather remaining
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Speaker 2: for at least another month or so, at least, I hope.
20:53
Speaker 1: Knock on wood, you got to get out there in grill.
20:56
Speaker 1: You gotta get out there and use that smoker. Maybe
20:59
Speaker 1: you got the blacktone. You're doing the flat top thing. Well,
21:03
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