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Saints To Hire Eagles OC Kellen Moore? | When Will New Orleans Make A Hire? · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: search of their next head coach, Ross Jackson joins us
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  Speaker 1: from Mobile, where he'll be all week for the Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Ross anchoring our coverage for Louisiana Sports dot
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  Speaker 2: How are you, dude, hey man? Doing great? Glad to
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  Speaker 2: be here with you, Appreciate having well.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. Okay, let's go with the President
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll kind of work our way back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's the absolute latest on Saints coaching? Starts here today Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So latest thing right now is that after having
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  Speaker 2: done their in person interviews with Anthony Weaver, Darren Rizzi
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  Speaker 2: as well as Mike Kafka, and next interview is expected
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  Speaker 2: to be the Saints flying to Philadelphia to hold their
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  Speaker 2: in person interview with Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore.
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  Speaker 2: The expectation is that after that, the Saints would potentially
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  Speaker 2: go forth with an interview with Michael McCarthy, a guy
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  Speaker 2: that was immediately considered a front runner in the conversation
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  Speaker 2: but has not had any interview with New Orleans. And
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  Speaker 2: apparently a part of that comes from and this was
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  Speaker 2: Nick Underhill of what New Orleans that football. Apparently a
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  Speaker 2: big part of that is that they wanted to wrap
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  Speaker 2: up their interview with Kellen Moore and then kind of
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  Speaker 2: see where everythings go. Makes sense prioritize the guys that
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  Speaker 2: have been a part of your process from the very beginning,
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  Speaker 2: and then add new names after you've already spoken with them.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think that that's also indicative of how
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  Speaker 2: serious the interest may be for New Orleans when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to Kellen Moore, if they do fine that he's
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  Speaker 2: a good fit. So that interview is expected to take
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  Speaker 2: place early this week, So that could be happening as
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  Speaker 2: we speak, could be happening tomorrow. We'll see. But that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be the next big interview for New Orleans
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  Speaker 2: is a pretty outstanding offensive mind Kellen Moore, but you
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  Speaker 2: just got to learn a little bit more about what
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  Speaker 2: he would be like as a head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Russ am I wrong to say, like it didn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like we were talking much about Kellen Moore until after
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles went and put up fifty five in the
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  Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game. Is this a sort of a prisoner
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  Speaker 1: of the moment thing for the Saints?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of it could be a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a what have you done for me lately kind
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  Speaker 2: of a situation, But like the Saints have had, them
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  Speaker 2: have had Kellen Moore on the list for a while.
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  Speaker 2: He did a virtual interview with him weeks ago, as
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  Speaker 2: well as did Joe Brady before he eventually ended up
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  Speaker 2: withdrawing from the search. But I think when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to Kellen Moore, a big part of it in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the timing, really just comes down to when is
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  Speaker 2: he available to do the in person interview. Because of
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  Speaker 2: how long Philadelphia season has become with them going to
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, this was the earliest possible moment where
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  Speaker 2: they could do an in person interview with him, And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that a loss to the Washington commanders
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  Speaker 2: would have changed their interests. So I think some of
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  Speaker 2: it is timeline. I think that's some of the excitement
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  Speaker 2: that you're seeing around. It could be very much prison
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  Speaker 2: for them.
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  Speaker 1: Is again, look at odds and like Mike McCarthy's at
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  Speaker 1: the top of them. Now, like a do you believe
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  Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy is the number one target like we
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  Speaker 1: all believe Aaron Glenn at one point was I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know if I can really say that, if I'm
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  Speaker 2: being honest, like, I don't think that I could say
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  Speaker 2: that he's the number one target because if he was
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  Speaker 2: the number one target, he's been available since the moment
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  Speaker 2: that he walked away from the Dallas Cowboys on what
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  Speaker 2: was at the fourteenth or whatever, when his contract expired,
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  Speaker 2: and so the Dallas Cowboys didn't make that hard for him.
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  Speaker 2: They sat on their hands for eight days and before
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  Speaker 2: they eventually started having conversations with him, and then before
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  Speaker 2: they even got to negotiations, apparently Mike McCarthy and Jerry
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  Speaker 2: Jones had decided that it was best for them to
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  Speaker 2: part ways, which is pretty indicative of Mike McCarthy saying,
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  Speaker 2: dah fam, I'm good and then maybe decided that he's
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  Speaker 2: going to go and see what else is out there.
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  Speaker 2: He had the interviews very quickly with the Chicago Bears,
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  Speaker 2: and I thinks didn't really push on any of that.
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  Speaker 2: And they have prioritized the guys had been a part
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  Speaker 2: of their since from the very beginning. Anthony Weaver, Mike Copka,
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  Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, all that before they've even gone down the
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  Speaker 2: road with Mike McCarty. So he could be a front
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  Speaker 2: runner in terms of the guy that makes the most sense.
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  Speaker 2: He's the safest, higher, impacts your floor without necessarily shooting
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  Speaker 2: you through the ceiling. By the impacts your floor quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit. But the things don't seem to be in
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  Speaker 2: a rush there, And the way that they've waited for
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  Speaker 2: Kellen Moore seems to indicate that the actual waiting for
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  Speaker 2: Kellen Moore is more indicative of interest than maybe what
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  Speaker 2: the pursuit of Mike McCarthy might say at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Ross Jackson on Twitter at Ross Jackson, Nola, Joe Brady
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  Speaker 1: deciding to remain at Buffalo. I look at this, there's
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  Speaker 1: like one of three things going on. I'm curious what
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  Speaker 1: you think it is. One he's not interested in the
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  Speaker 1: Saints job. Two he's really just genuinely interested in staying
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo in that really good situation, or you know, three,
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  Speaker 1: it could also be a situation where I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like maybe he wasn't going to get the Saints job,
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  Speaker 1: and so sometimes guys have an opportunity if they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to get the job, that they say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm withdrawing from consideration sort of for the optics of it.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about what happened here with or
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  Speaker 1: what do you know about what happened here with the
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  Speaker 1: Brady situation?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you hear a lot of the conversation
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  Speaker 2: being that he stayed in or we're hearing a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the conversation that he stayed in Buffalo more because
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  Speaker 2: of Buffalo than anything having to do with the New
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  Speaker 2: Orleans Saints. That his decision wasn't about New Orleans, but
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  Speaker 2: was about his situation and the comfort that he has
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  Speaker 2: in Buffalo. There's probably truth to that, But look, I
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  Speaker 2: think that that still says the same thing. It still
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  Speaker 2: says that those staying in Buffalo was a better opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for him than taking the head coaching job in New Orleans. Right,
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  Speaker 2: It says it says the same thing. It's just it's
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  Speaker 2: the difference between saying that shirt doesn't look good on
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  Speaker 2: you versus you don't look good in that shirt, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like they say it's the same thing, but he's just
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  Speaker 2: saying it a little nicer, you know. So I think
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  Speaker 2: like the reality is the reality. Like the Saints have
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  Speaker 2: to sell their situation, and if you can't adequately sell
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  Speaker 2: that situation, then the situation that somebody is coming from
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  Speaker 2: the originating situation is going to be more appealing. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's all that happened in this show Brady situation,
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  Speaker 2: and the sting for New Orleans has to be around
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  Speaker 2: the idea that, like, this is a guy that used
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  Speaker 2: to be in your building and that has been a
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  Speaker 2: part of your culture, that's been a part of your organization,
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  Speaker 2: and didn't give you the in person interview. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of the thing. Now. The third option that
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned is interesting and could be the taste where
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  Speaker 2: maybe he felt that, hey, I know that kelln Lare
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  Speaker 2: maybe is actually a favorite in this conversation or Mike
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  Speaker 2: McCarthy's lingering or whatever, I might not get this job.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be the hottest name next season. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to ruin that by being the guy that
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  Speaker 2: got passed on, So let me protect my stock, and
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  Speaker 2: that could very well be a way that it goes
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  Speaker 2: or that that win as well. Raw.
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  Speaker 1: So there are other names we should be talking about
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  Speaker 1: right now? The answer might be no, But is there
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  Speaker 1: anybody else worth noting?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that anybody's going to enter the conversation
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  Speaker 2: late at this point. Right The thinks are kind of
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  Speaker 2: there's still a ticking clock here with building the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the staff around New Orleans that you've already seen.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to need a new offensive coordator where he
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  Speaker 2: knew they were going to need a new defensive coordator.
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  Speaker 2: If Anthony Rizzy isn't the high issue me, if Darren
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  Speaker 2: Rizzy isn't the higher, then they're going to need a
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  Speaker 2: new special teams coordator because it's not like he's going
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  Speaker 2: to stick around and take a demotion to stay in
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  Speaker 2: New Orleans and all those things. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: that's that's maybe a little bit of the rush. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that there's really an opportunity to add
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  Speaker 2: new names. Should we be talking about more names? I
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  Speaker 2: would say yes to that because you would imagine that
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  Speaker 2: this search would have been a little bit more widespread,
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  Speaker 2: Guys like Cod Monkin, guys like Brian Flores and some
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  Speaker 2: of these others out there that would have been good
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  Speaker 2: candidates that weren't seemingly a part of the search. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's where we can say, like, yeah, there should
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  Speaker 2: be more names, But at this point, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you're going to see new names added. The one and
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  Speaker 2: only name that could potentially be added now is Cliff Kingsbury,
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  Speaker 2: who said he was going to wait till the Washingt
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  Speaker 2: commanders are no longer competing to kind of weigh his
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  Speaker 2: options for his future. And so we'll see if he
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  Speaker 2: ends up doing that, but I think he's primed to
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  Speaker 2: go right back to Washington. Why would you leave that situation?
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  Speaker 2: And so I think that's that might be the one
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  Speaker 2: name that we could add to the list, or see
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  Speaker 2: the Saints add to the list, But at this point
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  Speaker 2: I don't expect that.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a timeline that the Saints would follow
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  Speaker 1: to make this higher.
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  Speaker 2: I think the timeline that makes sense right now would
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  Speaker 2: be at some point late this week, and now it's
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  Speaker 2: going to depend on who they're hiring. Right, if they're
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  Speaker 2: hiring Kellen Moore, then late in the week you could
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  Speaker 2: potentially get a report that says the Saints are expected
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  Speaker 2: to hire Kellen Moore after the super Bowl, because he
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  Speaker 2: can't actually make it official until after the super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: has concluded. So I think the thing that I look
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  Speaker 2: at here is a potential indicator of interest in Kellen
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  Speaker 2: Moore is how far this pushes towards the end of
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  Speaker 2: the week before any kind of announcement is made. In
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, the later that this goes, the more likely
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  Speaker 2: it's Kellen Moore. But otherwise, right after this interview is
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  Speaker 2: done with Kellen Moore, and then if an interview happens
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  Speaker 2: with Mike McCarthy, once that's done, the Saints would be
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  Speaker 2: free to hire any of those other four candidates, Rizzy Weaver, Kafka, McCarthy.
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  Speaker 2: So I would expect something later on this week, but
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  Speaker 2: I will say that the later it goes, the more
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  Speaker 2: likely it is that it might be Kellen Moore.
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  Speaker 1: A couple more for you you mentioned obviously point Kubiak leaving.
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  Speaker 1: Is Michael Hodges, the linebacker's coach today head of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: as well. I mean Ross, I'll look at that, and
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  Speaker 1: I go, makes sense. These guys aren't gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: job in New Orleans, are going to take other jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Should we make anything of these guys leaving to take
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  Speaker 1: other jobs right now before a new coach is hired
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  Speaker 1: in New Orleans?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that those guys were
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  Speaker 2: going to be I think I'm with you. I think
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  Speaker 2: those guys had no guarantees in New Orleans at this point.
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  Speaker 2: New head coach that could potentially be an offensive mind
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  Speaker 2: in Kunging, new defensive coordinator incoming, those guys maybe didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a future in New Orleans anyway. Thanks for Kin Kubiak,
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  Speaker 2: who again is a one and done, but at least
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  Speaker 2: he's leaving for another offensive coordinator situation over in Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: in a good situation over there. So I think that
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  Speaker 2: the indicator for me when it comes to Kubiak is
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  Speaker 2: that he was given the opportunity to go and do
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  Speaker 2: that Cleveland Brown's interview when he was considered the favorite there.
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  Speaker 2: He was given the opportunity to go and do two
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  Speaker 2: interviews with the Seattle Seahawks. I think that kind of
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  Speaker 2: says where this was heading from the very beginning, and
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  Speaker 2: those interviews are granted to him. Well before things kind
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  Speaker 2: of progressed in the New Orleans stakes head coach and search,
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  Speaker 2: so I think he was probably already on those way out.
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  Speaker 2: And then Michael Hodges was a really sootherid linebackers coach
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  Speaker 2: under Dennis Allen, but his only pro experience has been
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  Speaker 2: under Dinna Sallen. Dennis Allen's not in the building anymore,
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  Speaker 2: and so Michael Hodges now gets the opportunity to go
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  Speaker 2: somewhere where somebody where he knows, somebody who wants them
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  Speaker 2: now gets to go and work over there with the
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  Speaker 2: biggest former former Notre Dame thee Yeah, Al Golden, thank you,
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  Speaker 2: and he gets the show like, hey, he's the guy
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  Speaker 2: that's gotten looks as a defensive coordinator. He gets to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: here's what I could do, not under Dennis Allen, not
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  Speaker 2: with the New Land Saints organization, which could help to
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  Speaker 2: push that stock back for him in terms of being
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  Speaker 2: a potential defensive coordinator in this future.
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  Speaker 1: Ross Jackson Rust Louisiana Sports on net and the Lockdown
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  Speaker 1: Saints podcast inmobile for the Senior Bowl sixty seconds or last,
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  Speaker 1: what are the top of the funnel storylines for the
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  Speaker 1: Saints Inmobile this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're watching edge rusher positions. I think
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  Speaker 2: you're watching wide receiver positions. I think quarterback can be
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  Speaker 2: very interesting because the Saints in the last three three
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  Speaker 2: of their last four drafts have taken a quarterback that
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  Speaker 2: performed in this Senior Bowl. So that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a big one to watch as well. And then outside
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  Speaker 2: of that, like remember, the Senior Bowl is an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for you to also kind of rub shoulders and everything
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  Speaker 2: like that and kind of get some of this conversation
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  Speaker 2: with some of these other coaches and things like that too,
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  Speaker 2: So I would expect that to be a big part
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  Speaker 2: of it. But I was like Prince Llamonniellen out of
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  Speaker 2: all miss big names to watch this weekend and looking
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  Speaker 2: for your typical kind of Saints draft picks as they
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  Speaker 2: love their Senior Bowl prospect.
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  Speaker 1: Please make sure t Bob doesn't get arrested.
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  Speaker 2: I will do my best. Now, I can't make that promise.
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  Speaker 2: I'll make the promise that I'll try.
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  Speaker 1: Between you and Rivers, I can do it. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: and and Jake there as well. Yeah, but really, you
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  Speaker 1: and Rivers being the adults in the room, really really
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  Speaker 1: really need help, just to.
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  Speaker 2: Make sure I'm more I'm more confident in rivers than
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  Speaker 2: I am and myself. But the combination of rivers and
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  Speaker 2: I think we can do it all right.
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  Speaker 1: Ross Jackson on Twitter at Ross Jackson, Nolan fangs.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Thanks buddy, appreciate it. Jously say I have taltee
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  Speaker 2: Sai