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Indiana-Ohio State Preview with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (The IU Report, 3.79) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to a special edition of the IU Report with Grant Shows and Mike Hutsl, Air Preview of the Hoosiers Big Game in Bloomington on Saturday against your Ohio State Buck Guys, and it's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_02]: IU Report, I'm Grant Shows with Mike Hutsl and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, Mike, the date we've circled for Indiana football since the National Championship game is finally upon us the big showdown with Ohio State coming up on Saturday the re-batch of the big 10 championship preseason, big 10 game of the year, one of the main focuses of the college football schedule this year and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana puts their 22 game wins streak on the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We put the podcast wins streak on the line Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If anyone can beat the Cindy and a team, it's Ohio State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll have to see what happens on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately, I don't know how much I really enjoy Indiana's chances going into this game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to be honest right off the bat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I start off with the no-highest state eight week story?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just got back from a grocery run in Charles Town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a Ohio State fan wandering the parking lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly doesn't know where he's parked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's doing the key fob thing, trying to sound his horn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time he hit his horn, I was hitting mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was getting,
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[SPEAKER_01]: like his horn was his horn would go mine would go so and they weren't close together so he I he may have eventually found his car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care but it can be one can be wandering in Indiana and Ohio State gear right now so you cannot I the game itself is look it's Ohio State man I don't know if you've heard or not but they've kind of had our number through the years
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had heard something about that, I believe, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also don't know if you've heard or not, the last time they played, I think you need in a might of one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember the reaction podcast to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's the number 14 in the country, against the number five team in the country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a college game day game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hilariously not a college game day game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the whole, everything that we talked about all season was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can get through Nebraska, this is your season as effectively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all been set up to get to this moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Personally, I think it's a pretty evenly matched match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that may just be guarded optimism, because I'll say it's really freaking good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing we've learned
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the Ryan Day era is if you can get them into a game in the fourth quarter where they're not on cruise control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can typically figure out a way to beat them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw it last year in Indianapolis, Michigan has done it to them previously last year in the game and the playoff, my amy jumped out on them early while they're trying to come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Texas got him on their back feet a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looked like Ohio State was going to roll.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're match up earlier this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Texas got him on their back feet a little bit and started swinging back in Ohio State just absolutely urinated down their leg in that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if as long as they don't let Jeremiah Smith come in and absolutely posterize them, run wild, get four TDs in a game against them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with Indiana's ability to pressure the quarterback, they can force and mistake and make this a, make this again, they could potentially win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a famous picture of Randy Boss on TV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You may have seen it where it's the picture of him on the sideline and it shows his stat line from the game he was playing in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It said three catches for 363 yards and three touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That seems like Jeremiah Smith every time he steps on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we said it last week after the Nebraska game and my opinion, and probably, I don't know, 12 to 13 years of really watching college football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe a little less, maybe more like 10 to 11.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's probably the best wide receiver I've seen with my own two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know there's been probably a couple others out there that have been better, but he is by far one of
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[SPEAKER_02]: to ever play college football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's one, you, you kind of enjoy watching him play when he's not playing against your team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think one, honestly, one of the big keys on Saturday is limit his involvement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to be able to shut him down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't think Indiana has this band in their secondary that can shut him down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you can try to slow him down,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, you know, you can't shut them down, but we can slow them down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what I think that's what it is here for Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can slow them down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You slow them down and you limit their explosive plays with other guys that they have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're other good-why receivers, Devon the QN branded NS.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They literally have a running back name, Bo Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you limit their explosive plays and also limit Jeremiah Smith's explosive plays, Indiana's got a chance to win this game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm confident they can do those two things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really think they can win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, you look at what Ohio State does offensively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They really get their wide receivers involved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Julian Sane isn't like Calandria there in Nebraska.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not really like Chiles at Northwestern where he likes to scramble out of the pocket and run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's capable, but I don't think that's what they kind of base their game around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Ohio State's good enough of a team and has a good enough of a staff to see that that's kind of been Indiana's kryptonite here this year is the scrambling quarterback out of the pocket that you really have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: got a key in on defensively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Ohio State sees that, and I was like, well, maybe we can design some runs you're for saying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Indiana just has to come to play defensively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the good things is that it is that home, it is a sellout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is probably going to be the largest crowd in the history of that stadium.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And some are calling it the biggest on campus sporting event ever in the history of Indiana University Athletics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In my lifetime, I can only think of one bigger that probably being the watch shot game with Kentucky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this kind of carries a similar weight going into the matchup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to rewind to one thing that you said because I love when Grant talks and says things that make me feel like I'm belong in the Smithsonian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The famous Randy Moss photo that you alluded to, three catches for like 140 some yards and three touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not a famous photo to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a game that I sat and watched live Grant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Thanksgiving day game, the Viking set at Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, cool, makes me feel wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, you're absolutely right though, like Indiana's defense, and I feel like, and maybe it's just wishful thinking, and I know they're not as talented defensively as they were a year ago, but I kind of feel like they've been just a little vanilla
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[SPEAKER_01]: and some of the stuff that they've done this year until the fourth quarter of the number asking game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When it looked like, okay, we got to actually do something and they kind of changed the way that they were keeping Calandria in the pocket and getting more after him and you saw some sex and after his touchdown, I think he was like five for 13 with,
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[SPEAKER_01]: no touchdowns, 43 yards, his statline after he had that big run was was pretty, um, pretty pedestrian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And last year, we talked about, you know, I went back as, as we're as it is to say, I remember the big 10 championship game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember the feeling of winning the big 10
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't remember a great deal about just like the individual process of the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there was a few things that I went back and I completely forgotten Omar Cooper went out on the first play of the game, or one of the first plays of the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Nina did not have him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also forgot that they tried to decapitate for an Anna Mendoza.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't forget that because Caden Curry can rotten.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he is rotting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a cult now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got what you deserve, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in that game, eight catches about a hundred and a buck 43.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That looks like a good, you know, that looks like a good performance by him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great, great player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, 46 came on the last play of the game, which was a Hail Mary from like the 20 yard line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in essence, Indiana had held him to seven catches,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did I call him just and I'm at Jeremiah seven catches and for like 98 yards prior to that now there's no deangel of ponds in this game unfortunately yeah we you know but
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can scheme something, just to make sure he's not just running free like I had this recurring nightmare of him just like catching a ball like ball pressed and Zachman is 17 yards behind him and coverage, but I can see that happen, but if you can I just as long as he's not out going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 8 for 240 and 4 touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I feel like Indiana can keep this thing close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I talked about how I like Signetti and a tight match up against Ryan Day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The epitome of born on third base, Ryan Day, I like Indiana's chances if this is a close game in the fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant and Michael be back with much more here in just a second, including their game predictions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just want to let you know that we have an IE report talking about basketball on the way sometimes this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was different growing up, but in terms of Indiana, it was the first game of my lifetime where after the game I literally was in tears because they won.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen them win some great games over the years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember the Penn State game in 2020, Michael Penex at the reach at the pile on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember some other great ones over the years, not really though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're talking, when you're talking about great wins, it's Michael Pinnick's and a season opener in an empty stadium, a win at Missouri, I remember that one vaguely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They beat Wisconsin the COVID year at Wisconsin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the types of wins that like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ohio State doesn't even like their fans don't recall anything about a game like that because that's just like human that's like nature for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, you won't at Penn State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I can put the Nebraska game the other day in that category.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When it looked apparent that they were going to win due to just the emotions, like I couldn't believe that they were going to win that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now when I thought they were going to lose that game, I was in tears of frustration, like, like, you know when you're a kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've worked with them and treat kids as a sub.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to know a lot of great kids and everything, but sometimes you see them get mad and they just, they huff and puff and they cry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was literally me during that Nebraska game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going in with no expectations on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think I'm going down there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm just going to watch it at home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I have a lot of FOMO.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I can go, I'm going to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be honest with you, I'll lie to you at home and hopefully they win and you know, hopefully it doesn't mess up my throat because since that Nebraska game on that Tobias and Tommy sat to basically clinch it, I screamed something loud and screamed something fierce and my throat has heard ever since and I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope I get something similar on Saturday that this one would be sweet for a lot of reasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The victim championship was great last year, don't get me wrong, but this one I think would mean a lot more, especially with the stigma around, oh, well, you guys still don't play anybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys aren't the same team as last year, this I think would shut a lot of people up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately, if they do lose, if they do lose, it's going to be the same thing
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could make that argument about 2024.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know you can make that argument about 2026.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is still think this is a good football team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think Ohio State's going to be able to just walk in and blow this Indiana team out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how you feel about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that there that I don't think they're that kind of team against this Indiana team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's to make this building in Bloomington.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And me, this feels like a game where if Indiana wins, it's just a matter of where they are going to be placed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the college football playoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the world comes crashing down and they lose two games after this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Potentially you could have that discussion, you know, with somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like if Indiana wins this game with what's ahead, it seems like they should be favored in their remaining schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty comfortably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if Indiana wins this, even if they come out with a loss to USC, say, and mid-November, I think they're still in the college football playoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if Indiana loses this game and then stumbles again to Michigan or USC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At that point, you're going to have to start defending them as to whether or not they're even going to be deserved to be in the playoff, which is crazy to say, but this is almost a lock yourself into the College of Public Law of Scenario for SIG and Indiana if they can pull out this win on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: looking at the stat here real quick it's just passing yardage wise for Ohio State 2020 seven yards to Indiana's 1,448 that is I think the biggest difference to me here average passing yards for for Ohio State 337 to 241 for Indiana 20 passing touchdowns for Ohio state to Indiana's 19th
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[SPEAKER_02]: Three over 3,000 yards of total often through Ohio State Indiana, 2007, 181, Indiana does average more yards for place 7.8 to Ohio State 7.3.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So penalties are another big one here, Indiana, one of least penalized teams in the nation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 24 20 penalties for 173 yards to Iowa State's 40 penalties for three other in 14 yards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that could be another big one at time at possession.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If ending Anakin control the football and have a good time at possession, I like their chances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think more teams are going to try to blueprint what Nebraska did and make Indian a throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to let.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Indiana they're going to try to limit that that run game as much as they can and and the way Nebraska did it pretty much provided, you know, kind of, you know, okay, here's how here's how you do it because Indiana just could not get anything going on the ground in that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So who's I feel like he's been one of the more underappreciated guys in the country this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still get the sense that people think
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[SPEAKER_01]: is not nearly as good at quarterback this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Josh Hoover is a liability under center for Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not Fernando Mendoza.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We understand that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's missing throws this year that maybe Mendoza would have hit, but he's done the one knock on him coming into this year was, oh, he's going to turn the ball over all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, to this to date, he still hasn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he does that again against that Ohio State defense on Saturday, he's putting his team in a pretty damn good position to win because Ohio State has one of the best defensive coordinators in the country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just turn out, you know, five star after five star on that defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost all that NFL talent from their defense a year ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they seem like they're just as good this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sunny styles gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Arvel Rees gone, Caleb Downs gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All these guys are in the NFL right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, guess what, they're still just as good defensively as they have then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Matt Patricia gets a lot of credit for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mike, you got a score prediction for Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You go first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to lean multiple ways here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can play first if you want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Greg Giga first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I owe you wins on a late touchdown 27-21.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Boy, that sounds great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's a close game, I want to take Indiana, but a part of me, so I want to take Ohio State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Ohio State wins in Bloomington 35-24.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, I'm going to stick with my gut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, the podcast is undefeated till it isn't, and I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to ride that streak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go Indiana, 28, 20, and a big, big game from Nick Marsh and this one, another big game from Nick Marsh and this one.
19:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I really, really hope you guys are right and I'm wrong.
19:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never wanted to be more wrong.
19:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in my entire lives.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We did not pick Indiana when the Big Ten Championship.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we were open about that immediately after the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we were pretty open last year about that Big Ten Championship game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're putting the podcast streak on the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope we can get together about 330 on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: be somebody happiest men in the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm really looking forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been thinking about this for a long, long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's the joke going around on Twitter where just Indiana fans keep tweeting and have been for months, October 17th, October 17th, October 17th, and October 17th is finally here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope Indiana gets it done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you guys know, I'm no IU fan, but I hope they kick their ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, me too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the Ohio State fans who said you can't name your quarterback from 2023.
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[SPEAKER_01]: India is going to do this for Danny Cameron for Jabran Hamden for Matt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Vekio for Richard Lega, this is for Dave Schnell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is for John Itson Barrier, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John, John, Pacy, Chris Ditto, Chris Ditto, Dwingers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do it first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do it for all those guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's for James Hardy, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kellen Lewis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's for hat too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bill Lourry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dintene enthusiast Bill Lens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bill Mallory started it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cam Cameron.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cam Cameron.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John Pond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dave Chandley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, Dave Chandley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my cuttle and Grant Shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do it for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad Shows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do it for Brad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do it for Avery Hetzel, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big one on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much, Grant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mike.
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