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- 0:12Speaker 1: And on we go. Welcome in everyone. It's time for
- 0:16Speaker 1: three Guys before the game. This is our preview episode
- 0:20Speaker 1: West Virginia and the Cougars of BYU in provo for
- 0:26Speaker 1: the very first time in Big twelve Conference Loop Action.
- 0:33Speaker 1: And this is three Guys before the game with the
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- 1:42Speaker 1: coming up. All right, So here's the reason why we're
- 1:47Speaker 1: heavily caffeinated. Today. We come to you, ladies and gentlemen
- 1:51Speaker 1: of the congregation with a heavy dose of cafe. And
- 1:55Speaker 1: because it's International Coffee Day, it's Internet National Coffee Day.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Two days ago was National Coffee Day. We don't even
- 2:05Speaker 1: we don't even acknowledge.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Now this is Wednesday, in case you're listening to this
- 2:08Speaker 2: podcast a day later. So this Wednesday, National.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Coffee Monday was national We didn't even we didn't even
- 2:13Speaker 1: give it an eyebrow ray. Why because we're global. So
- 2:17Speaker 1: we're so we're International Coffee Day celebrators. And so we
- 2:21Speaker 1: went over to our bastion of coffee this morning early
- 2:26Speaker 1: to serve there it is. We went to Mountaineer Roasting.
- 2:29Speaker 1: They had our own caraffe or jug of coffee that's
- 2:34Speaker 1: the game day grind, and we just had a bunch
- 2:35Speaker 1: of cups there and we just like people walked in
- 2:37Speaker 1: and go, hey, you want to try this? And we
- 2:39Speaker 1: served coffee to some folks and uh.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Hung out with Rusty Rusty Mountaineer roasting.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Rusty Isaac's Mountaineer Roasting. But we also had another another
- 2:47Speaker 1: guy who's in there every almost every day getting his coffee.
- 2:50Speaker 1: He just stands in line like everybody else there. He
- 2:52Speaker 1: is ladies and gentlemen. Charles Wesley Godwin. He was in
- 2:57Speaker 1: and he was just having a coffee. People just having
- 2:59Speaker 1: a coff He was going up there to go into
- 3:01Speaker 1: a studio and start recording some songs later in the day.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I liked when he was talking to us about them.
- 3:07Speaker 1: They just made some I like when they go like, well,
- 3:09Speaker 1: I got these demos done, I'm gonna track this. I'm
- 3:12Speaker 1: gonna put the lead like the vocals. Put the vocals.
- 3:14Speaker 1: I like like when they talk about all that music.
- 3:16Speaker 4: So he had a couple of good stories, didn't he.
- 3:18Speaker 1: He did because I'd asked him before he went on
- 3:23Speaker 1: tour on the Outlaws tour with Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I said, dude, you gotta give me something on give
- 3:29Speaker 1: me something on Dylan, like after you do this thing.
- 3:32Speaker 1: So today was the first day I remembered to ask him.
- 3:34Speaker 1: I said, Okay, give me the Dylan story, and uh,
- 3:39Speaker 1: Dylan's story is man, Dylan doesn't deal.
- 3:43Speaker 4: Dylan does he wants he want he is? You think
- 3:47Speaker 4: I'm a loof and distance.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Yeah. He has a closed stage, which means no one,
- 3:51Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who. The only people are a sound
- 3:53Speaker 1: people and the other musicians. These only people who get.
- 3:56Speaker 3: To said he sounds great, though, sounds fine, Yeah, sounds great.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Loves Willie Nelson. He loves Willy Nelson.
- 4:02Speaker 4: So, uh isn't that something? Think about that for a second.
- 4:05Speaker 3: What a fun run.
- 4:06Speaker 2: He's on so Stadium tour with Luke Combs. Then he
- 4:08Speaker 2: does the Outlaw Tour here with Dylan and Willie Nelson,
- 4:10Speaker 2: which is just wild. We talked about last show. Just
- 4:13Speaker 2: announced stage Coach. He's going to be on there on
- 4:14Speaker 2: his day with Lady Wilson Riley Green, so pretty cool.
- 4:18Speaker 1: And his next show October fifteen, Red Rocks. Yeah he's
- 4:21Speaker 1: he's headlining Red Rocks.
- 4:22Speaker 4: Oh that's that's supposed to be never been there, supposed
- 4:26Speaker 4: to be a fantastic venue in.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Front of the show going. Remember that was an auction item.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's the three guys listener or snowell. Oh
- 4:33Speaker 1: you weren't there, were you? No? I wasn't you were, Yeah,
- 4:37Speaker 1: Doug riding the bike, but he's going to be there.
- 4:39Speaker 1: When Charles was there most recently, I think it was
- 4:43Speaker 1: the last time he was at Red Rocks, absolute massive
- 4:47Speaker 1: snow store. While he was out there, it was it
- 4:49Speaker 1: looked like it was like a postcard.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was so big. He said, ninety
- 4:52Speaker 2: five hundred seats in their seats. You can get ninety
- 4:55Speaker 2: five people in there.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, cool, all right, let's jump in, uh West
- 5:01Speaker 1: Virginia and by you, you know, we guys always talk
- 5:05Speaker 1: about the situation.
- 5:08Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my first observation.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get in Hoppy's obvious observations. Hoppy,
- 5:14Speaker 1: obviously you have something to.
- 5:15Speaker 4: Say situationally, Tony, you were about to say bad spot
- 5:19Speaker 4: for West Virginia coming off a terrible loss at home
- 5:21Speaker 4: going on a long road trip. Provo's your second longest
- 5:24Speaker 4: road trip in.
- 5:25Speaker 3: This league, which is also crazy to say that.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't you mean that you be based on
- 5:32Speaker 1: this season's schedule. No, I mean, well, you can go
- 5:35Speaker 1: to Arizona twice. You got the Arizona Arizona state.
- 5:38Speaker 4: I understand that the farthest west is is Phoenix, right
- 5:44Speaker 4: next farthest west is Provo and then Tucson.
- 5:47Speaker 1: First I've heard of that did not do hoarding.
- 5:49Speaker 4: I did my own research, did not go on my
- 5:50Speaker 4: research anyway. It's a long way to go, all right,
- 5:53Speaker 4: So you got a long road trip going to be
- 5:55Speaker 4: a tough environment. You know, sixty thousand fans there byu
- 6:02Speaker 4: IS favored by nineteen and a half eighteen and a
- 6:05Speaker 4: half depending on you tom of day. And they're brad
- 6:07Speaker 4: they are favored right now. They're favored in every game
- 6:11Speaker 4: byu IS except Texas Tech going forward.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Yeah, good start for the Kugs.
- 6:14Speaker 4: Good start for the Coogs. They were before the season began,
- 6:17Speaker 4: they were projected eight and a half no other up
- 6:18Speaker 4: to nine and a half wins for this season. West Virginia,
- 6:22Speaker 4: you know Injuri has been well documented. Still unsettled at quarterback.
- 6:26Speaker 4: Jalen Henderson is questionable. Nico Markill Tony, what is the
- 6:32Speaker 4: story you talked to the coach this week? It didn't
- 6:34Speaker 4: come up at his news conference for some reason. What
- 6:36Speaker 4: is the story on Nico Markhill? He's listed us out
- 6:38Speaker 4: for this week, But what insight do you and brand
- 6:40Speaker 4: have about Nico?
- 6:41Speaker 1: Well? I would say this first off, a couple things,
- 6:43Speaker 1: several different insights. One, this is kind of a mind
- 6:47Speaker 1: blower to me after I thought about it. So the
- 6:49Speaker 1: Tuesday press conference happens, and the whole thing with a
- 6:54Speaker 1: twenty twenty five minutes, however long those last, and I
- 6:57Speaker 1: didn't realize until afterward that there was not one single
- 7:01Speaker 1: question about Nico markiall, And I thought to myself, you
- 7:07Speaker 1: talk about what a difference three weeks makes you go
- 7:11Speaker 1: from coming off the bench in storybook fashion to beating
- 7:16Speaker 1: Pitt and one of the old time great dramatic victories
- 7:20Speaker 1: in that stadium's history, coming back from ten down overtime,
- 7:23Speaker 1: the whole thing, and three weeks later, basically there's not
- 7:27Speaker 1: one single question, which begs a bunch of different questions. Okay,
- 7:31Speaker 1: so the one question would be, well, why not he
- 7:35Speaker 1: had just been the starting quarterback? Like why isn't anyone asking?
- 7:41Speaker 4: Now?
- 7:41Speaker 2: Some of that may be he addressed on the Coaches Show.
- 7:44Speaker 2: So get into what was said on the Coaches Show,
- 7:46Speaker 2: because that I mean, he gave an update there, he did,
- 7:50Speaker 2: but you.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Would still think there would have been a question anyway.
- 7:52Speaker 1: So on the Coaches Show, to paraphrase, Rich said that
- 7:57Speaker 1: Nico is not in town that he had gone to
- 8:01Speaker 1: both Colorado and Arizona. So again for those that don't
- 8:04Speaker 1: follow it, real close native of Colorado or lived in Colorado,
- 8:08Speaker 1: main houses in Colorado, finished his high school career in Arizona,
- 8:12Speaker 1: so he has the Arizona connection. And Rich heard was
- 8:19Speaker 1: informed that he has a foot injury which will keep
- 8:24Speaker 1: him out for several weeks. Severals, you know, several could
- 8:30Speaker 1: be three, several could be more than that, right, and
- 8:34Speaker 1: so to this point that's the deal, and it just
- 8:37Speaker 1: kind of quietly has gone quiet.
- 8:41Speaker 4: Here's the follow up question. Sure, The following question is
- 8:44Speaker 4: how confident are you that Nico Marku will real return
- 8:50Speaker 4: to be a part of this team and play for
- 8:52Speaker 4: the Mountaineers this season. What is your level of conference?
- 8:55Speaker 4: And Rich I think would be pretty candid about that.
- 8:57Speaker 4: Somebody in the next press conference, or are you on
- 8:59Speaker 4: the coach the show needs to ask that.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Well, do math. Let's just do some simple math.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Yeah, you're already at the halfway play.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Friday night, your season's half over fifty percent, already six
- 9:08Speaker 1: games will be done. Then you have an off week
- 9:11Speaker 1: seven weeks and then you'll play again. So several weeks
- 9:15Speaker 1: now you're getting like, if you just add three, three,
- 9:19Speaker 1: four weeks, guess what nine to ten? You're done? Season's
- 9:22Speaker 1: over seasons?
- 9:24Speaker 4: So red, what are the odds Nico Markyoll returns to quarterback.
- 9:26Speaker 2: This Well, we'll have to see, but I think they
- 9:27Speaker 2: like as Tony Sam. They decrease every week here as
- 9:30Speaker 2: you get later into the season.
- 9:31Speaker 1: And do math hoppy. As I said on a couple
- 9:33Speaker 1: of episodes ago, I mean, the math number in this
- 9:36Speaker 1: world that we're in right now is four, right, right right,
- 9:40Speaker 1: And four is the number you've played in four games.
- 9:43Speaker 1: You haven't played in two, and you have two to
- 9:45Speaker 1: still play. You don't have three and have one to play.
- 9:47Speaker 1: You've played four games. You step back out on that
- 9:50Speaker 1: field and you've lost this season of eligibility, done, not
- 9:55Speaker 1: getting it back. You don't play again. And if you
- 9:59Speaker 1: have a medical issue, you could file at season's end
- 10:03Speaker 1: for a medical red shirt and then you would be
- 10:06Speaker 1: granted an additional year, plus the other year that he
- 10:08Speaker 1: had you could still have too. You play again, you'll
- 10:11Speaker 1: have next year and you're done.
- 10:12Speaker 4: So do you send? And I'm getting away from my
- 10:15Speaker 4: obvious observations, which I still have a few. I'm prepared so.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Do These are obvious questions?
- 10:20Speaker 4: Yeah, so brand, do you send Khalil Wilkins Wilkins? Do
- 10:25Speaker 4: you send Khalil Wilkins out before sixty thousand people Friday
- 10:29Speaker 4: night to start the game?
- 10:29Speaker 2: Well, that might be your best option. We talked about
- 10:31Speaker 2: this last show, and it would have seen that Jalen Henderson,
- 10:33Speaker 2: who got the start last game, would be the logical choice.
- 10:36Speaker 3: He's been in games before.
- 10:37Speaker 2: But if he's dinged, as it sounds like he is
- 10:40Speaker 2: some sort of injury in there, then it might be
- 10:42Speaker 2: Wilkins and get looks. Given the performance Wilkins put forth
- 10:46Speaker 2: last week in a game when not much was happening elsewhere,
- 10:49Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's his time throw them in there.
- 10:50Speaker 3: See what you got? See what you got?
- 10:52Speaker 4: Okay, obvious observations.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Let me also say this, Yeah, you asked me your
- 10:57Speaker 1: initial question of like or I asked my why isn't
- 11:01Speaker 1: there more of a what's going on? Because I think
- 11:05Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, the four games is
- 11:10Speaker 1: now accepted. People do the math. I mean every season
- 11:14Speaker 1: now we're seeing guys not play after four games. Well,
- 11:19Speaker 1: it's like a it's like an algebra question. If if
- 11:22Speaker 1: four plus x equals red shirt, then X is normally zero.
- 11:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand that. I just think it's weird that
- 11:33Speaker 4: he's sort of disappeared.
- 11:36Speaker 2: The other thing is two guys is I know he'd
- 11:38Speaker 2: take him the majority of the snaps, but it's not
- 11:41Speaker 2: as if you've seen not seen other quarterbacks play, So
- 11:44Speaker 2: this was a different He's your starting quarterback, which I
- 11:47Speaker 2: know gets so much more attention in a normal situation.
- 11:50Speaker 2: This is a group that was subbing guys in constantly anyway,
- 11:53Speaker 2: So I think a little easier to say, Okay, it's hurt,
- 11:55Speaker 2: it's been four games, all.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Right, move on, who's next? Now go to the next
- 11:58Speaker 3: part of that all right.
- 11:58Speaker 4: Rest of the obvious observation is that if there's one
- 12:02Speaker 4: and bread, you'll probably be able to build a some
- 12:04Speaker 4: case West Virginia. If there's any upside to playing Friday night,
- 12:08Speaker 4: it's that it gives you one extra day for the
- 12:11Speaker 4: week off to get ready to go to UCF where
- 12:16Speaker 4: you have a chance a better chance to win. Wow, Okay,
- 12:21Speaker 4: why are you looking at him like that?
- 12:23Speaker 3: Well that was I mean, he was going deep for
- 12:25Speaker 3: that one.
- 12:26Speaker 4: That was good.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Now, granted, it's a six day flight to get back
- 12:30Speaker 2: from where you're going, so I think you'll lose the
- 12:32Speaker 2: extra day because you're.
- 12:33Speaker 3: On a plane there. For it's like an international flight.
- 12:36Speaker 3: I think something like that.
- 12:37Speaker 4: You leave at midnight and you get back.
- 12:39Speaker 1: How do you know how many hours you're gaining? Do
- 12:41Speaker 1: you know how many hours you're gaming? You're gaining nine
- 12:44Speaker 1: and a half hours by playing on Friday instead of Saturday.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Here's why team's supposed to get back at six. Okay,
- 12:50Speaker 1: So hypothetically, if you played Saturday, yes, six more six
- 12:55Speaker 1: Saturday morning. So if you played a noon game at
- 12:57Speaker 1: home on a Saturday, you'd be done at three thirty.
- 12:59Speaker 1: You're only netting for nine and a half.
- 13:01Speaker 4: I'm just trying to find something. Okay, I'm trying.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Can I make an obvious observation? Yeah?
- 13:06Speaker 1: Wait a second, that's his thing he does, but.
- 13:08Speaker 2: It's we're in the segment, so I thought I could
- 13:10Speaker 2: jump in and help. Okay, this is bizarre, guys.
- 13:12Speaker 3: This is a conference game. I mean, I don't like.
- 13:16Speaker 2: Can I not normalize this for just a second of
- 13:18Speaker 2: what college foot balls become. It's a conference game that
- 13:21Speaker 2: is kicking at ten thirty Eastern. One of the teams
- 13:25Speaker 2: is based in a time zone that is watching its
- 13:27Speaker 2: team kickoff at tenth. This sitting in Phoenix for the
- 13:30Speaker 2: bowl game. This is int a one off where you
- 13:32Speaker 2: stay plate to watch team. This is a conference game.
- 13:35Speaker 2: This is weird stuff, guys, but.
- 13:36Speaker 1: You know what it is? Wild, but you know what
- 13:38Speaker 1: it is? What is it? It's seven thirty in the
- 13:41Speaker 1: West Coast. I get so all the West Coasters sit down,
- 13:44Speaker 1: they go, heck, we got a Friday night football game.
- 13:47Speaker 3: There's my point.
- 13:48Speaker 2: If we're going to understand, if we're going to have
- 13:50Speaker 2: these multiple time zones, can we not take that? Is
- 13:53Speaker 2: there not a time during the day that both the
- 13:56Speaker 2: East Coast and the West coast viewers can watch? Why
- 13:59Speaker 2: are we choosing of the two and it's not two
- 14:01Speaker 2: West Coast teams playing. Can't we get to a point?
- 14:04Speaker 2: Is there not enough TV slots where you can accommodate
- 14:07Speaker 2: both of the fan base or earlier in the day
- 14:10Speaker 2: it's in the eastern times. Michigan State had this, they
- 14:14Speaker 2: had to kick off like at eleven or eleven thirty.
- 14:17Speaker 2: That that's that's the bizarre part to me. If we're
- 14:19Speaker 2: going to have these these nationwide teams in the tournament
- 14:23Speaker 2: all the times, it's okay, fine, So be it. I
- 14:25Speaker 2: get the principle, the business principle of covering all these
- 14:29Speaker 2: windows where Big twelve play is available from early in
- 14:31Speaker 2: the morning until until early in the morning the next day.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Totally get it. But when the team is participating, one
- 14:37Speaker 2: of the teams participating, can we not have a mediation
- 14:40Speaker 2: there and have have a multiple discussion? May not get
- 14:45Speaker 2: the one times on where both teams can enjoy my question.
- 14:49Speaker 1: So my question to you, then, what you're saying is
- 14:50Speaker 1: if and that changes Friday night makes a difference. But like,
- 14:54Speaker 1: so on a Friday, what time do you think be
- 14:56Speaker 1: what what would be an adequate time?
- 14:58Speaker 2: Yeah, play it on a Saturday, first of all, so
- 15:00Speaker 2: it's not on a Friday night because I know you
- 15:02Speaker 2: got a game.
- 15:03Speaker 1: You can't play that game. You got to do it Friday.
- 15:05Speaker 1: When would you do it?
- 15:05Speaker 2: Great, I'd have two East Coast teams play on a Friday.
- 15:08Speaker 2: I'd have two West Coast teams play on a Friday
- 15:10Speaker 2: late in this window. Put a West Coast team in
- 15:12Speaker 2: against b What if you've got to give them a
- 15:14Speaker 2: Friday slot. Have two in the same time day then
- 15:18Speaker 2: played at ten thirty if you want, and then both
- 15:20Speaker 2: fan bases are in the same position. To eliminate one
- 15:23Speaker 2: team's fan base from a good part of the game,
- 15:26Speaker 2: I think just doesn't make a lot of sense from
- 15:28Speaker 2: a growing of the college football brand. You're making it
- 15:32Speaker 2: harder than.
- 15:32Speaker 3: What it has to do.
- 15:33Speaker 2: And listen, I don't want to I don't want to
- 15:34Speaker 2: be in charge of scheduling for any league.
- 15:35Speaker 3: That would be a nightmare of a job.
- 15:37Speaker 2: But just can we get together the amount of time
- 15:40Speaker 2: we spend talking time zones on.
- 15:42Speaker 3: This program, be it that. Can the Big twelve put
- 15:44Speaker 3: the right time zone?
- 15:45Speaker 1: Now?
- 15:45Speaker 3: Can we get two teams? We talk a lot of times.
- 15:47Speaker 1: All the time. Yeah, we spend a lot of time
- 15:48Speaker 1: talking all time. I mean to.
- 15:49Speaker 3: Hijack your saying no, it's go ahead.
- 15:52Speaker 4: And now it's kind of an awkward fit of my
- 15:54Speaker 4: next obvious observation saying that I like BYU in the
- 15:56Speaker 4: league because and I understand that this is screwed up
- 16:00Speaker 4: to lay Friday night at ten thirty, But BYU is
- 16:03Speaker 4: a national brand. That's a national brand. Okay. They have
- 16:08Speaker 4: alumni in.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Every state, all fifty of them. So does Jandel's attorneys
- 16:12Speaker 1: at law. They've got clients in all fifty states. So
- 16:15Speaker 1: that's she's got clients in Utah.
- 16:17Speaker 4: There are three hundred BYU graduates in West Virginia, three
- 16:20Speaker 4: hundred according to the BYU website. They have a national championship.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Eighty four Robbie Bosco of course holiday.
- 16:28Speaker 4: They have a Heisman Trophy winner, yeah, Ty Detmer. They
- 16:33Speaker 4: had the legendary coach Levelle Edwards, who the stadium is
- 16:36Speaker 4: named for and was a dear friend of Don Neils.
- 16:40Speaker 4: Sure so, I just like the fact that there's this
- 16:43Speaker 4: national brand. Again, the logistics are horrible, but I like
- 16:46Speaker 4: the fact it's a national, national brand.
- 16:48Speaker 3: You know what, I lost it. I don't know give
- 16:50Speaker 3: them what they're spent on their basketball roster.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I don't know that I like them in the league.
- 16:54Speaker 1: They I like the fact that Here's why I like
- 16:56Speaker 1: them in the league. They care. They I'm all about
- 17:00Speaker 1: you bring in people that are like passionate and care.
- 17:03Speaker 1: These buddies care. They're into it, which I like.
- 17:06Speaker 4: And they are and they are iconic. They're different. They
- 17:10Speaker 4: are not like everybody else. Okay, of course they're owned
- 17:15Speaker 4: by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
- 17:17Speaker 4: Fifty Six members of the current football team have served
- 17:21Speaker 4: an LDS Mission. Members of the team have served in
- 17:26Speaker 4: twenty two different countries. They speak more than ten languages,
- 17:31Speaker 4: have served on six of the seven continents around the globe.
- 17:34Speaker 4: BYU currently the several members of the team that are
- 17:37Speaker 4: currently serving on mission. According to Forbes and Brand, and
- 17:41Speaker 4: now we're talking about this, it's the most financially healthy
- 17:44Speaker 4: college in the country. And because that is, tuition is
- 17:48Speaker 4: manageable about thirty three hundred dollars a semester if you're
- 17:50Speaker 4: a member the LDS. That right, thirty three hundred if
- 17:53Speaker 4: you're a member of Member of the Latter Day Saints.
- 17:57Speaker 4: And of course we have this connection. Gordon went to
- 18:01Speaker 4: by Michael Benson is a graduate of BYU. So they
- 18:07Speaker 4: are different and they're apart, and they're a national brand.
- 18:10Speaker 1: And it's noteworthy. It's in historic, historic story. You know
- 18:14Speaker 1: why it's historic. This will be the largest crowd ever,
- 18:19Speaker 1: largest crowd ever that a West Virginia football team will
- 18:22Speaker 1: be playing in front of that's not intoxicated. It can't
- 18:26Speaker 1: be largest crowd ever of non intoxicated people.
- 18:29Speaker 4: Now alcohol at the stadium, new alcohol on campus.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Yeah, fane, no no, no, So you guys, you guys
- 18:35Speaker 1: right now, the way that you are just overly caffeinated.
- 18:39Speaker 1: They throw your ass out right now, wouldn't let you in.
- 18:41Speaker 4: One final thought, and I just want to scratch a
- 18:43Speaker 4: surface on what Brad's going to get into and.
- 18:46Speaker 1: To get in your territory now, just nothing new for you.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Were starting to get upset by this.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Just slightly. It'll be fine. They have not had the
- 18:53Speaker 4: toughest schedule so far. Okay, Portland State, Stanford, East Carolina.
- 18:59Speaker 4: They did played Colorado.
- 19:00Speaker 1: And he had to go to East Carolina. They had
- 19:03Speaker 1: to refuel mid air. Okay to get the Greenville.
- 19:06Speaker 4: North Carolina got behind against Colorado, came back won the game.
- 19:11Speaker 4: Great story of the true freshman quarterback Bear Bachmeyer correct, yeah,
- 19:15Speaker 4: correct back Meyer.
- 19:16Speaker 1: And he's named Bear his brother's tiger, the receiver receiver.
- 19:19Speaker 4: Yeah, And where's number forty seven?
- 19:23Speaker 1: Which I love love it? I love stupid, you know,
- 19:25Speaker 1: I love stupid stuff in sports. Yeah, like three two
- 19:28Speaker 1: final football game scores and like forty seven is your love?
- 19:32Speaker 4: Why is forty seven? Because when he was five years old,
- 19:34Speaker 4: his father gave him the number forty seven. He's warn
- 19:36Speaker 4: it ever since. He wants to play like a full back.
- 19:37Speaker 4: And he's six two two twenty work with it. So
- 19:40Speaker 4: there are those are my obvious observations. I'll defer to
- 19:43Speaker 4: Brad with more specifics because I think Brad maybe, just maybe,
- 19:47Speaker 4: even though West Virginia is a nineteen point dog in
- 19:50Speaker 4: this and an a team that's a nineteen point deficit
- 19:55Speaker 4: almost never wins. Okay, you think about Northern Illinois, notre
- 19:59Speaker 4: name last year, Vanderbilt and Alabama, but week to week
- 20:03Speaker 4: it doesn't happen.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Ye hard one to pull off. I'm interested in Brad's
- 20:08Speaker 1: insights into the game.
- 20:10Speaker 4: So that's what I got.
- 20:11Speaker 1: As a former resident Brad of the state of Utah.
- 20:16Speaker 2: I did feel like we were residents there for all
- 20:18Speaker 2: dual citizenship.
- 20:19Speaker 4: You guys were there and we were there apartment, you
- 20:22Speaker 4: know what it was exactly.
- 20:24Speaker 1: It was like it was like super long. I loved
- 20:26Speaker 1: every day. It's like I was on vacation. It was like,
- 20:29Speaker 1: this is.
- 20:29Speaker 3: Awesome, wonderful, taking our walks every day.
- 20:33Speaker 1: This is like, this is the greatest place ever. I
- 20:34Speaker 1: loved it. Three guys before the game, I don't think
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- 22:21Speaker 2: It's really really I'm working my way backwards to Saturday
- 22:24Speaker 2: to be ready. It was Tuesday this week. I was
- 22:26Speaker 2: on fumes. I barely got in there. You need a
- 22:28Speaker 2: go Mart calculator, like I had the door open as
- 22:30Speaker 2: I was pulling up with the pumps like a hop
- 22:31Speaker 2: out of it, and make sure this is supposed to plaset
- 22:34Speaker 2: goes downhill a little bit, which was good.
- 22:36Speaker 1: You laugh about it. I did it once light.
- 22:39Speaker 3: This is the least surprising thing that'll be said.
- 22:41Speaker 1: On today's show, the light the light at don Neeln
- 22:44Speaker 1: Drive on seven oh five. Yes, truck runs out, truck
- 22:48Speaker 1: runs out. I'm praying light goes green. Take my leg
- 22:54Speaker 1: take my seriously went neutral, put it in neutral.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Like Fred Flinstone's you reach outside the car and that
- 23:00Speaker 2: you're late. You're not a scooter.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Yes, got the push because there's a little bit of
- 23:04Speaker 1: a hill there. People don't know that. Got a little
- 23:06Speaker 1: bit of a hill there. Then there's that next light
- 23:09Speaker 1: app at right and so it's like prayer that no
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- 23:19Speaker 1: in there because.
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- 23:26Speaker 2: a month a lot of construction out there on one nineteen.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Get off the interstate, you come buy go mart as
- 23:30Speaker 2: your head of the stadium. There can slow you down
- 23:32Speaker 2: if you a little use some fuels sitting in the
- 23:34Speaker 2: traffic there. So anyway, my point is I'm getting closer
- 23:37Speaker 2: to Saturdays when I can get triple points. Are right
- 23:39Speaker 2: now on single points, working on efforting.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Let's do this now, let's go time for spreads on
- 23:45Speaker 1: stats numbers. I'll just go right to the numbers hit
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- 24:30Speaker 4: We say, here's a bunch of receipts.
- 24:31Speaker 1: Brad and I oftentime go, how come Hoppy makes that
- 24:33Speaker 1: much more right?
- 24:35Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 24:36Speaker 1: I mean all right, let's jump in. You got anything
- 24:41Speaker 1: positive over there?
- 24:43Speaker 2: Well, in a normal situation, yeah, I think there'd be
- 24:46Speaker 2: a couple of things you come at. You're right, hop
- 24:49Speaker 2: of course. On the on the situational spot, it's a
- 24:51Speaker 2: tough one in one of the most difficult places to
- 24:53Speaker 2: play on the short week with a team that's battered.
- 24:55Speaker 2: So just on its surface, that doesn't look great. So
- 24:58Speaker 2: we'll dive into some of these numbers. But the numbers,
- 25:00Speaker 2: as you would imagine for a team that started like
- 25:02Speaker 2: they have and a team that started like West the
- 25:04Speaker 2: number there's giant gaps here in the numbers, but a
- 25:07Speaker 2: couple things that you would look at if you're trying
- 25:09Speaker 2: to say, well, okay, here's why you play the game.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Go out and take your shots at it. To your point,
- 25:13Speaker 2: hop on the schedule for BYU, PFF has them as
- 25:16Speaker 2: the one hundred and eighteenth most difficult schedule so far
- 25:20Speaker 2: out of one thirty six, they have the thirty sixth
- 25:23Speaker 2: toughest moving forward, so it starts to talk to the
- 25:25Speaker 2: strength of the Big twelve in terms of balance. West
- 25:28Speaker 2: Virginia to this point is played the thirtieth most difficult schedule,
- 25:31Speaker 2: so strength the schedule is a huge gap. And so
- 25:33Speaker 2: if all things were being equal, you would point at
- 25:36Speaker 2: that and say, okay, you're on the road. I get it,
- 25:38Speaker 2: but take your swings when it gets to that. I'm
- 25:41Speaker 2: interested in this one, guys, just to see if West
- 25:43Speaker 2: Virginia can get itself up off the mat. Before you
- 25:45Speaker 2: start to get into matchup situations. This is two games
- 25:48Speaker 2: where you just really haven't been competitive for a lot
- 25:51Speaker 2: of the game. In Utah it was it was all
- 25:53Speaker 2: the games. So can this team get itself back together?
- 25:55Speaker 2: Can the defense step forth and get a BYU offense
- 25:59Speaker 2: that's right the ball pretty effectively with a true freshman
- 26:02Speaker 2: quarterback that hasn't turned it over. And I'll get to
- 26:04Speaker 2: that in a minute. Is the second point. If you're
- 26:06Speaker 2: looking for an area where maybe you can exploit or
- 26:09Speaker 2: catch a break, maybe it's in that do for a
- 26:12Speaker 2: turnover here at some point or maybe two. But that's
- 26:15Speaker 2: the first and foremost. When we can jump in here,
- 26:17Speaker 2: it's to me who's going to fight the rest of
- 26:20Speaker 2: the season for this West Virginia team. Who's going to
- 26:22Speaker 2: step forth in a role that maybe you haven't seen yet.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Is that Khalil Wilkins. Is it Di or Hubbard who
- 26:27Speaker 2: we talked about, Malik Agbo who we mentioned on this
- 26:30Speaker 2: show on Sunday that played pretty well on Saturday. Rich
- 26:33Speaker 2: address that yesterdays press conference haslam on the offensive line.
- 26:36Speaker 2: So there's a handful of guys on the offensive side
- 26:39Speaker 2: that you haven't called their names. A bunch tony, but
- 26:41Speaker 2: that stepped forth and showed you a little bit at
- 26:43Speaker 2: least in that second half. Correct, who steps up this weekend?
- 26:46Speaker 2: Does the defense? Is it able to rally itself and
- 26:49Speaker 2: give you a decent effort before we get to any numbers.
- 26:51Speaker 2: I think that's the first point of discussion.
- 26:53Speaker 1: There was a breathtaking stat that Zach Ally, the coordinator,
- 26:56Speaker 1: used during his press conference on Tuesday, and that was
- 27:00Speaker 1: to kind of give you the idea of where we
- 27:02Speaker 1: are with analytics nowadays. They have they do the research,
- 27:06Speaker 1: they have some service. So West Virginia in the country
- 27:11Speaker 1: third fastest, third fastest on defense to get to the
- 27:15Speaker 1: ball carrier below one ten and bringing that ball carrier
- 27:22Speaker 1: to the ground. That's there's the key. You know, PFF
- 27:24Speaker 1: had nineteen missed tackles, Brad twenty four. I think Zach
- 27:28Speaker 1: said over thirty.
- 27:29Speaker 3: Yeah, the grade probably one four twenty four.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, oh he had over thirty.
- 27:34Speaker 4: But Jinder Bread, to your point, while we're looking for
- 27:37Speaker 4: rays of sunshine, is that you're talking about getting up
- 27:41Speaker 4: off the mat. That if you get a decent start
- 27:45Speaker 4: and it's late second quarter and it's closed, you go okay,
- 27:49Speaker 4: then you forget about the other stuff.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Sure, right, It's just like plat play the game.
- 27:53Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And that's what you're looking for, and that's
- 27:55Speaker 2: what Rich will be looking for moving forward, is who's
- 27:57Speaker 2: willing to put your face back in the fan and
- 27:59Speaker 2: fight a little But here, when you've had two rough,
- 28:01Speaker 2: rough weeks, some numbers on BYU and we'll go through
- 28:04Speaker 2: this again. I don't know if there's much point in
- 28:06Speaker 2: just grinding the numbers to a halt here until you
- 28:08Speaker 2: see West Virginia's ability to bounce back a little bit.
- 28:11Speaker 2: But they're off to a great start. As you said,
- 28:13Speaker 2: hoppy better EPA per play defensively than Utah had. Slightly
- 28:19Speaker 2: better was Utah on the offensive EPA. We know how
- 28:22Speaker 2: much West Virginia struggled. This is the team overall and
- 28:25Speaker 2: BYU eleventh nationally and adjusted EPA expected points added per play,
- 28:30Speaker 2: a bunch of numbers to like, if you're them, they're
- 28:32Speaker 2: going to try and run it more than they throw it.
- 28:33Speaker 2: Run at fifty six percent of the time. So we
- 28:35Speaker 2: saw that rush defense for West Virginia be good early.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Can it find itself again against an offensive line that
- 28:41Speaker 2: has been good but maybe not at the level that
- 28:43Speaker 2: Utah's was. So can they bounce back there. You guys
- 28:45Speaker 2: mentioned freshman quarterback Bear Bachmeier, so that's normally one thing
- 28:49Speaker 2: you would draw your attention to immediately as a true
- 28:52Speaker 2: freshman quarterback. Again, he's at home, I get it, so
- 28:54Speaker 2: that should make him a little more comfortable. He's been
- 28:57Speaker 2: off to a great start, hasn't turned it over yet
- 28:59Speaker 2: this season through four games, nearly seventy percent completion percentages
- 29:03Speaker 2: do and they're doing a good job of asking him
- 29:06Speaker 2: to do what he can do as a freshman, managing
- 29:08Speaker 2: it very very well. A number against Colorado guys, he
- 29:12Speaker 2: had one hundred and eighty pass yards. One hundred and
- 29:14Speaker 2: twenty three of those came after the catch, So they're
- 29:17Speaker 2: doing a great job not throwing it a lot downfield,
- 29:19Speaker 2: keeping it in the middle of the field, getting it
- 29:21Speaker 2: to receivers and letting them do the work. In fact,
- 29:24Speaker 2: listen to these numbers across the middle of the field
- 29:27Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage strowing screens thirteen of sixteen
- 29:30Speaker 2: go to zero to ten yards in the middle of
- 29:33Speaker 2: the field, twelve of seventeen ninety six yards in one
- 29:36Speaker 2: of his touchdowns, ten to twenty yards middle of the
- 29:39Speaker 2: field eleven of sixteen two hundred and sixteen yards, So
- 29:42Speaker 2: attacking the middle with him not throwing it deep very often,
- 29:45Speaker 2: getting it underneath, and letting your playmakers go to work.
- 29:48Speaker 2: He's been really effective off play action slash RPO sixty
- 29:52Speaker 2: five percent completion percentage. Four of his six touchdown passes
- 29:55Speaker 2: have come in that format. Here's where I say, when
- 29:59Speaker 2: you go turnovers and four games, okay, you're due, right,
- 30:01Speaker 2: that's the positive spin from a West Virginia defense that
- 30:04Speaker 2: has been pretty good at creating turnovers this season. If
- 30:07Speaker 2: you go to the PFF stats that we talk about
- 30:09Speaker 2: a lot big time throws versus turnover worthy plays. So remember,
- 30:12Speaker 2: big time throws are great. Throws may not have turned
- 30:15Speaker 2: in or may not have been a touchdown, but greated
- 30:18Speaker 2: is a big time throw. Turnover worthy the same thing
- 30:20Speaker 2: may not have turned into a turnover but probably should
- 30:23Speaker 2: have been. So six touchdown passes, zero interceptions on the season,
- 30:27Speaker 2: raw counting stats, just two big time throws, two turnover
- 30:31Speaker 2: worthy plays.
- 30:32Speaker 3: When you look a little deeper.
- 30:33Speaker 2: At the next level, so maybe do for a pick here,
- 30:36Speaker 2: and you're probably gonna need a couple of those turnovers
- 30:38Speaker 2: to help yourself. While you look, you're looking like you're
- 30:40Speaker 2: gonna ask something there.
- 30:41Speaker 1: No, I want to say this about the crowd. Talk
- 30:45Speaker 1: to someone this week. It's been there for football and
- 30:49Speaker 1: to your point about how important it is to just
- 30:51Speaker 1: get your feet underneath you. At the start of the game,
- 30:54Speaker 1: they said, what it's like is unique. He said, it's
- 30:58Speaker 1: like a like you walk walked into a twilight zone,
- 31:02Speaker 1: like a white twilight zone. Like everything is just like
- 31:07Speaker 1: that's what it is, and you're in there for the
- 31:09Speaker 1: first time. It can be offsetting to you. And so
- 31:13Speaker 1: I think that is absolutely massive. You know, West Virginia
- 31:16Speaker 1: leant to score three points in the first half and
- 31:17Speaker 1: it's two league games so far, and this is not
- 31:21Speaker 1: one of those occasions where you want to get down
- 31:24Speaker 1: seven or ten because that that that what those what
- 31:29Speaker 1: are those mountains hoppy?
- 31:30Speaker 4: I'll look that up against Whytch a shot by shot.
- 31:33Speaker 4: It's that.
- 31:34Speaker 1: What I'm saying is big Rock comes down and the
- 31:36Speaker 1: bowlders rolling will run it over. You're going to run
- 31:38Speaker 1: right over your head if you get behind early. Yeah.
- 31:42Speaker 2: Defensively for the Cougars, they're off to a really good
- 31:45Speaker 2: start fourth nationally and EPA per play twelfth nationally and
- 31:49Speaker 2: success rate for this defense. So that's an area to
- 31:52Speaker 2: keep an eye on. And we know West Virginia has
- 31:54Speaker 2: struggled mightily on the offensive end. Here's a couple numbers
- 31:58Speaker 2: that may jump at you.
- 31:59Speaker 3: Wemember.
- 32:00Speaker 2: We went with that available yard stat for Utah last week.
- 32:03Speaker 2: It was eighty six percent, the most I could find
- 32:06Speaker 2: going back a number of years.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Remember that.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Well, this won't make you feel any better, but I
- 32:10Speaker 2: think it's something to keep an eye on. Flip it
- 32:13Speaker 2: around to West Virginia's offense against BYU's defense. BYU is
- 32:17Speaker 2: number one in the country nationally in available yards allowed
- 32:21Speaker 2: to its opponents. They're allowing opposing offenses to just pick
- 32:25Speaker 2: up twenty one percent of the available yards to it.
- 32:29Speaker 2: That's double trouble when you look at West Virginia's offense
- 32:32Speaker 2: is managing only to gain thirty nine percent of its
- 32:35Speaker 2: available yards, which is one eleventh nationally. So again, you
- 32:39Speaker 2: didn't need that number to know that. But that's a
- 32:42Speaker 2: match to keep an eye on in this game. I'll
- 32:44Speaker 2: give you another one. We talk a lot about field position.
- 32:49Speaker 2: BYU is number four in the country. This is net
- 32:54Speaker 2: field position offense defense number four nationally at plus eleven yards.
- 33:00Speaker 2: So we talk about that ten yard difference, you win
- 33:02Speaker 2: ninety plus percent of the time. They're averaging that through
- 33:05Speaker 2: four games. West Virginia Flip them around there on the
- 33:08Speaker 2: other end of the spectrum, one twenty seven out of
- 33:10Speaker 2: one thirty six a minus five point six yards in
- 33:14Speaker 2: field position. So ho for an offense that's struggling to
- 33:17Speaker 2: move it and move it in long drives without a
- 33:20Speaker 2: ton of explosives, you're getting a team that feasts off
- 33:23Speaker 2: that defensively. So that's something that's got to change obviously
- 33:26Speaker 2: in this game if you're going to have a chance
- 33:27Speaker 2: to hang into it.
- 33:30Speaker 1: You know what's not coming true? What you know how
- 33:33Speaker 1: Phil Steele always says the turnover margin bounces back and
- 33:37Speaker 1: forth in one year to the next. We're on a
- 33:39Speaker 1: two year low, aren't we here on turnover margin. We're
- 33:42Speaker 1: on the wrong side two second year in a row.
- 33:43Speaker 3: You've been better this year than.
- 33:45Speaker 1: You have been. Yeah, but you've been still not good,
- 33:48Speaker 1: but still not good. You need more. You're to struggling offense. Man,
- 33:53Speaker 1: then you're unable to convert.
- 33:55Speaker 4: Or convert their downs. Put you in up in long
- 34:00Speaker 4: third and long you get emotion penalty. You have a
- 34:06Speaker 4: lot of difficulty putting together long drives, right, I mean
- 34:10Speaker 4: how many how many ten play drives.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Have you had? Well, you can look it up ease
- 34:15Speaker 1: as you scored.
- 34:15Speaker 4: I mean it's not enough. So you know, Brad, you're
- 34:19Speaker 4: you're great with the numbers. It's just it's just hard
- 34:22Speaker 4: to find an avenue here. It really is not trying
- 34:25Speaker 4: to be just overly pessimistic. I'm trying to be realistic.
- 34:28Speaker 4: It is hard to find an avenue.
- 34:30Speaker 2: Yeah, we Western has really struggled on third down, guys,
- 34:33Speaker 2: one of the worst in the country, one twenty eight
- 34:34Speaker 2: out of one thirty six. But what's interesting if you
- 34:37Speaker 2: look down at all their offensive numbers, one of their
- 34:39Speaker 2: better numbers, it's not great, but it's one of their
- 34:42Speaker 2: better numbers is early down success. They haven't been awful,
- 34:45Speaker 2: but yet they're really struggling to convert that on third down.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Because again, if this offense is put in a in
- 34:51Speaker 2: a third and long where it has to go to
- 34:52Speaker 2: the air, that's really where it's been a struggle. This
- 34:55Speaker 2: offense is as we have seen, guys, it's not running
- 34:58Speaker 2: it at a great level that it wants to most
- 34:59Speaker 2: of the so it's really struggling when it passes just
- 35:02Speaker 2: a twenty nine grade, so scale of zero to one hundred,
- 35:06Speaker 2: a twenty nine grade win under pressure, a three percent
- 35:09Speaker 2: big time throw percentage rate, and a five percent turnover
- 35:13Speaker 2: worthy percentage when you go to the air. So just
- 35:16Speaker 2: struggling all the way around right here, and you're going
- 35:18Speaker 2: to have to find something in this game, and hopefully
- 35:20Speaker 2: that starts with the defense and some turnovers.
- 35:22Speaker 4: Tony. Also, this BYU team, as always every year, it's
- 35:27Speaker 4: a mature team.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Men.
- 35:30Speaker 4: Their average age is twenty two, and they have one
- 35:34Speaker 4: player who's twenty eight. Excuse me, they have one player
- 35:37Speaker 4: who's twenty eight.
- 35:39Speaker 1: Well, that's an old fellow right there, twenty eight years old.
- 35:41Speaker 4: And they have one of their starters I think had
- 35:43Speaker 4: already is married and already gone on mission and come back.
- 35:45Speaker 4: And there's something to that that maturity level.
- 35:48Speaker 1: Right. Oh, yeah, there's difference. I mean, there's no question. Yeah.
- 35:52Speaker 4: I mean they can play or some other places too.
- 35:54Speaker 4: They get guys from Utah State, but they have a
- 35:57Speaker 4: lot of guys too that have played a lot of
- 35:58Speaker 4: football at by mm HM.
- 36:01Speaker 1: Absolutely same in basketball.
- 36:04Speaker 2: One last number for you, I'll leave you with this.
- 36:06Speaker 2: If there's another glimmer of hope about this BYU offense
- 36:09Speaker 2: is they're averaging seven yards per third down as well.
- 36:13Speaker 2: So can you get a freshman quarterback in that position
- 36:17Speaker 2: and go ahead and get some pressure? Find that pressure
- 36:19Speaker 2: that existed against Pitt in particular. Colorado had a little
- 36:22Speaker 2: bit of success last week doing that. In the game
- 36:24Speaker 2: they kept really close to BYU. Put them in third
- 36:27Speaker 2: and long for a quarterback that hasn't turned it over yet,
- 36:29Speaker 2: can you turn up the pressure and get a break
- 36:31Speaker 2: or two either if it's not a turnover, can you
- 36:33Speaker 2: get off the field there on third down a little
- 36:35Speaker 2: bit and get the ball back?
- 36:36Speaker 4: Now, two years ago BYU came in here in West
- 36:39Speaker 4: Virginia beat him like they stole something.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Because they had no quarterback. They had to start first
- 36:43Speaker 1: ever start for Jake Rehetzloff, who's now the quarterback at Tulane.
- 36:47Speaker 1: He was supposed to be the starting quarterback for him
- 36:49Speaker 1: this year, had a situation and that's what opened up
- 36:52Speaker 1: the door for Bear Brockmeyer to become their starting quarterback.
- 36:55Speaker 1: He had been at Stanford and they made the move
- 36:58Speaker 1: over there. So other than yeah, but Rehetzlov is not ready.
- 37:00Speaker 1: On that night game here and West Virginia just dominated.
- 37:04Speaker 2: And so that's one things we're saying, right, that's why
- 37:05Speaker 2: we talk about situations so much. You got to be
- 37:07Speaker 2: yu team in here that could do some things, but
- 37:10Speaker 2: it had a quarterback starting for the first time. West
- 37:12Speaker 2: Virginia's defense was all over them and it just didn't work.
- 37:14Speaker 4: So wait a minute. Now you're talking about a team
- 37:16Speaker 4: that's going to our style environment and with a young
- 37:19Speaker 4: quarterback starting for the first time.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Ris Wilkins. Yeah, so that's that's the challenge that you
- 37:23Speaker 2: have to overcome this week.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Exactly right, very very similar, very similar, very similar.
- 37:27Speaker 2: The other thing is, guys, and this could have gone
- 37:30Speaker 2: under your obvious observations from just an X and O
- 37:32Speaker 2: standpoint on the field. Can you get some explosives here?
- 37:35Speaker 2: Can can Hubbard break one off? And we saw some
- 37:37Speaker 2: explosive last week. It was when the game was decided
- 37:40Speaker 2: and it was later and I get there were some
- 37:41Speaker 2: second string defensive guys in there, but you saw the
- 37:44Speaker 2: long run from Bowie, you saw Wilkins take off on
- 37:46Speaker 2: a couple Hubbard had the twenty nine yeard run. For
- 37:49Speaker 2: an offense that is struggling to put together sustained drives,
- 37:52Speaker 2: it's just critical. Can you get cam Vaughn loose somehow
- 37:55Speaker 2: on the back end and hit it. I know I've
- 37:57Speaker 2: said this every game so far, but this offense is
- 37:59Speaker 2: going to have to find some explosives because it's struggling
- 38:03Speaker 2: to drive all the way down the field.
- 38:04Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wonder if that is what it's going
- 38:07Speaker 1: to take a seminal moment where they have one or
- 38:10Speaker 1: two big plays on the same drive and all of
- 38:12Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, they just get a different feel
- 38:14Speaker 1: and sense about them. Hey, we can do this. I
- 38:17Speaker 1: think right now, there's just more doubt than there is
- 38:19Speaker 1: sure confidence that you can make plays consistently. Well.
- 38:22Speaker 2: If you can hit a couple big plays, then the
- 38:24Speaker 2: tempo maybe becomes an advantage. And I thought Rich's answer
- 38:26Speaker 2: earlier this week on tempo, He's asked the question, do
- 38:29Speaker 2: you consider slowing it down? Because, as we know, and
- 38:32Speaker 2: as he knows, if you're not producing first downs, man,
- 38:34Speaker 2: that's tough on your defense to keep throwing them out there.
- 38:36Speaker 2: And I thought his answer was very good. It wasn't
- 38:38Speaker 2: just a dismissive no, this is what we do. We're
- 38:40Speaker 2: going to run tempo. He did talk about yeah, that's
- 38:43Speaker 2: what they do, and their most success over the years
- 38:45Speaker 2: is come when they're able to do some form of tempo.
- 38:48Speaker 2: But he also said he doesn't feel there at a
- 38:50Speaker 2: position talent wise, and just strength us to line up
- 38:54Speaker 2: milk clock and try and just bang into you and
- 38:56Speaker 2: let the defense get itself set and see what you're running.
- 38:59Speaker 2: He's still feels the advantages to try and go fast
- 39:02Speaker 2: and hope you can pop some plays for.
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- 40:41Speaker 4: Tony, I would not be surprised if before the game,
- 40:45Speaker 4: I don't know this. I just wouldn't be surprised if
- 40:47Speaker 4: there was not an acknowledgment or a moment for Russell Nelson,
- 40:50Speaker 4: who was the longtime president of the Church of Jesus
- 40:54Speaker 4: Christ of Latter day Saints, A very popular figure in
- 40:57Speaker 4: LDS who passed away last weekend after there. It was
- 41:02Speaker 4: just after their win over Colorado, and he was there
- 41:06Speaker 4: are millions of people in the church in that church,
- 41:09Speaker 4: and he was ahead of that church for many, many,
- 41:11Speaker 4: many years and very well respected and beloved by a
- 41:14Speaker 4: lot of a lot of LDS folk.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll probably be the case, right because they were
- 41:18Speaker 1: on the road last week. So this is the first
- 41:20Speaker 1: home game since since that happened. Weather should be really nice.
- 41:24Speaker 2: Hey, there'll be some some Mountaineer fans going down to
- 41:26Speaker 2: the number, but there'll be some mountain air fans going.
- 41:28Speaker 2: What was that restaurant that's really good there in Salt Lake?
- 41:31Speaker 1: Mateos?
- 41:32Speaker 2: Yeah, Mateos, that was a good one. That'd be your
- 41:34Speaker 2: top recommendation for any fans out that.
- 41:36Speaker 1: You want, really, if you want really good Italian how
- 41:38Speaker 1: far Clarksburg to Morgantown. Okay, you can see big business
- 41:45Speaker 1: remember when we made I mean, you got big Silicon Valley.
- 41:49Speaker 1: Silicon Valley businesses have moved into Utah, and you can
- 41:52Speaker 1: see him on that stretch from Utah from who I mean,
- 41:56Speaker 1: it's a who's who, It's a who's who of all
- 41:58Speaker 1: the big boy companies. What is it, mateos m a
- 42:02Speaker 1: t e O right next to a Salt Lake City
- 42:05Speaker 1: Marriotte University Center in our center, city center Center, whatever
- 42:09Speaker 1: it might be.
- 42:09Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a not far from the Jazz's Arena.
- 42:12Speaker 1: Just down the street. We went to a couple of games,
- 42:14Speaker 1: or we went to a game.
- 42:16Speaker 4: You were there, you were there for a long time.
- 42:18Speaker 1: Saw Oscar, saw Oscar players. Saw Oscar player's third game
- 42:22Speaker 1: in two days.
- 42:22Speaker 2: He had He had a two a days that day
- 42:24Speaker 2: he played for the G League team, then came back
- 42:26Speaker 2: and played for the big team.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Yes, that's amazing.
- 42:29Speaker 4: Well, that would be. It would be. It would be
- 42:33Speaker 4: hard because of how far you have to go and
- 42:36Speaker 4: how expensive it would be, but save up your money.
- 42:39Speaker 4: That would be a good road trip at something.
- 42:41Speaker 1: A lot of mountain Your fans are doing it. I
- 42:42Speaker 1: mean I had talked to folks this week. I had
- 42:45Speaker 1: richest show and they said, we're going because it's a
- 42:47Speaker 1: new destination. Yeah, it's beautiful and you got yourself a
- 42:50Speaker 1: direct flight right out of there out of Pittsburgh International
- 42:53Speaker 1: does do with city, Yeah, right to Salt Lake City. Absolutely,
- 42:56Speaker 1: Delta flies out there, Pittsburgh to Salt Lake Real yeah,
- 43:01Speaker 1: still having a little I have to leave two days early,
- 43:03Speaker 1: but still having a little question in my mind about
- 43:05Speaker 1: the Utai s I D. When I questioned him on
- 43:08Speaker 1: how long it took to get here, some dispute on
- 43:11Speaker 1: the air travel, he got a little cantankerous on there
- 43:13Speaker 1: on that four hours. I said, it didn't take four hours,
- 43:15Speaker 1: he said, I was on the plane, fired back at you, huh.
- 43:21Speaker 3: Well put your watch on this one. You'll see. Oh.
- 43:22Speaker 1: I know they got it down for three thirty going out,
- 43:25Speaker 1: which is endo the wind, which means when we'll make
- 43:27Speaker 1: it home faster than three three.
- 43:28Speaker 2: I think it was three sub three on the way back,
- 43:31Speaker 2: or three five or six when we.
- 43:32Speaker 1: Came to Big deal. Ain't no big deal.
- 43:36Speaker 3: I look, it was a big dealer playing at ten thirty eastern.
- 43:38Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing that guy. Well, we won't
- 43:40Speaker 1: see that. We won't see him again, will we that
- 43:43Speaker 1: that Uti s I D. Because I want to go
- 43:45Speaker 1: up to him and say I might text him so, hey,
- 43:47Speaker 1: hey buddy, we just flew just flew back from Salt
- 43:50Speaker 1: Lake or on provo.
- 43:51Speaker 2: On maybe that you don't, I mean, he's right, you
- 43:53Speaker 2: weren't on their flight. Maybe taxied for a while, and
- 43:55Speaker 2: he's counting that time.
- 43:56Speaker 4: You don't know where they got they got an extra
- 43:59Speaker 4: you know, twenty thousand pounds on the plane.
- 44:01Speaker 1: Maybe it takes men. That's no, that is that is true.
- 44:03Speaker 1: How about the tractor trailer that carries the mountaineer gear.
- 44:06Speaker 1: What you ever think about that?
- 44:07Speaker 3: It's a nice looking truck.
- 44:09Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when did they leave the.
- 44:11Speaker 2: Central van in storage? I know that look nice.
- 44:13Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they That's why they had those other uniforms.
- 44:17Speaker 4: So they get with the regular uniform called the gear.
- 44:21Speaker 2: Not much different. I mean, that's about when you left
- 44:23Speaker 2: when you went to Rutgers or Syracuse.
- 44:27Speaker 1: You're talking about times change member. They used to rent.
- 44:30Speaker 1: They used to rent like a big box truck.
- 44:32Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, that's that's how.
- 44:33Speaker 1: They would carry the gear.
- 44:34Speaker 3: Branding's come a long way.
- 44:35Speaker 1: Yeah. Now you got these tractor trailers that have these
- 44:38Speaker 1: murals and movies on the side.
- 44:40Speaker 3: Oh yeah, great design.
- 44:41Speaker 1: It's a big business. Tiving out for text shoals textual
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- 45:12Speaker 4: We've had our share.
- 45:14Speaker 1: Yeah, we did our we made our commitment way too much.
- 45:16Speaker 1: Ill as well.
- 45:20Speaker 2: I'll be fine for the ten thirty Friday kickoff, starting
- 45:22Speaker 2: with the coffee I had today.
- 45:24Speaker 4: I think also, what we're gonna do? Are you just
- 45:26Speaker 4: see through? Are you're gonna nap?
- 45:29Speaker 3: You just go write that great question?
- 45:31Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna you know how much I'm gonna
- 45:33Speaker 2: get in before k I'm gonna do it, do an
- 45:34Speaker 2: entire radio show. Probably go over to the high school
- 45:37Speaker 2: game here, that's right across the street. Gonna walk over,
- 45:38Speaker 2: check that out, come home, and still have an hour
- 45:40Speaker 2: and a half before the game starts.
- 45:43Speaker 4: I hope you can stay away. It's twelve thirty. It's
- 45:49Speaker 4: going to be like two o'clock.
- 45:52Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it'll be it'll be late. That's one where
- 45:57Speaker 1: I put my I take my phone, I put it down.
- 45:59Speaker 1: I don't want to know what time it is. I
- 46:01Speaker 1: never look again until the game's.
- 46:02Speaker 4: Over, just like I don't body clock issues.
- 46:04Speaker 1: I don't want to know.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Here's we've kind of done the reverse of Utah banged
- 46:08Speaker 2: on Utah a week for coming out seven days early. Now,
- 46:10Speaker 2: I spent the whole podcast complaining about a ten thirty
- 46:13Speaker 2: eastern kick off.
- 46:15Speaker 3: I've done the exact thing we were losing our mind about. Yeah, well,
- 46:18Speaker 3: policies Utah.
- 46:19Speaker 1: Sorry. If you're not going to the game on Saturday
- 46:23Speaker 1: night here in Morgantown, I strongly encourage you to watch
- 46:26Speaker 1: the West Virginia men's soccer team in action, top ten
- 46:30Speaker 1: game in the world, both teams Top ten, West Virginia
- 46:34Speaker 1: and Gardner Webb. Is that right? Does that? Does that
- 46:37Speaker 1: make sense? It's Gardener Web I'll double check, man, I
- 46:40Speaker 1: hope it's Gardener Webs. That sound right.
- 46:41Speaker 4: I'm not sure that is, but let me double chick.
- 46:43Speaker 1: Why is it not garden a webbit? No, Georgia State,
- 46:46Speaker 1: Georgia State, Georgia State, Georgia Southern. It's not Gardner Webb.
- 46:51Speaker 1: Take that for the record. You know, if we ever
- 46:53Speaker 1: went back and edited the podcast, I'd remove that. Yeah,
- 46:56Speaker 1: what the heck, it's it's uh, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Georgia.
- 47:00Speaker 3: The attraction's West Virginia is what's your point is.
- 47:02Speaker 4: Georgia Southern both teams in the top ten on Georgia
- 47:05Speaker 4: three Southern, well he took three.
- 47:07Speaker 1: Yeah, glad, I didn't come at you with like emery.
- 47:11Speaker 1: But anyway, Georgia Southern seven o'clock, Hopy on Saturday night
- 47:16Speaker 1: at Dick de Lesque Soccer Stadium, a matchup, yes, seven
- 47:19Speaker 1: o'clock between two top ten teams on that beautiful new
- 47:23Speaker 1: field that they have over there, and Coach Stratford would
- 47:26Speaker 1: strongly appreciate your support there in that game because it
- 47:32Speaker 1: is a big one.
- 47:33Speaker 2: West Virginia and Georgia Southern should play it like an
- 47:37Speaker 2: eleven thirty Eastern time to get that West Coast audience in.
- 47:40Speaker 1: Georgia Southern just beat Marshall. So this is a big
- 47:43Speaker 1: game in league, in loop play, big game.
- 47:45Speaker 4: West Virginia three one and one at home, three zero
- 47:48Speaker 4: to one away.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Yeah, so check it out. I'll received this package and
- 47:54Speaker 1: we didn't see it until we got done taping on Sunday.
- 47:56Speaker 1: Dear Tony Brad Hoppy the hanky kerchieval. Thanks, thank you
- 48:00Speaker 1: guys for your efforts and entertaining mount in your fans.
- 48:02Speaker 1: I don't take it for granted. Wonderful show. I'm the
- 48:04Speaker 1: crazy guy who did a short interview series with Jay Jacobs. Anyway,
- 48:09Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Tony saved me and my
- 48:13Speaker 1: girlfriend from spending a horrible week in dreaded Naples, Italy. Instead,
- 48:19Speaker 1: we road trip through Tuscany to Amalfi. We owe you
- 48:24Speaker 1: a mountaineer connection. We took a trip to Iceland and yes,
- 48:30Speaker 1: narrow roads. Dear lord, help, I'm sorry, not Iceland, Ireland.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Ireland doesn't right, really, I mean it's not going to
- 48:36Speaker 1: win any handwriting words, but anyway.
- 48:39Speaker 3: It's hard to handwrite anymore.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Yeah, lost art. But we were with friends hiking on
- 48:42Speaker 1: the rim of the Cliffs of more overlooking the Atlantic
- 48:45Speaker 1: one thousand feet below, when lo and behold someone noticed
- 48:48Speaker 1: my girlfriend Katie's West Virginia sweatshirt and exclaimed, go ears.
- 48:54Speaker 1: We found out these people shouting, shouting were former WVU
- 48:57Speaker 1: students during the Final four era. Amazing, they're in the
- 49:00Speaker 1: cliff of Moores. Hoppy, they got mountaineer fangel and okay,
- 49:03Speaker 1: so here we go? Is it?
- 49:04Speaker 3: Anthony straw By chances No.
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- 50:00Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, just pumpkin spice. Things out of control, Texter.
- 50:06Speaker 1: On your last episode, Hoppy mentioned the fans must be patient.
- 50:10Speaker 1: While that is true for this season, it cannot be
- 50:12Speaker 1: true after this season. With the next round of re
- 50:15Speaker 1: alignment and or super conferences looming. Patients cannot be in
- 50:18Speaker 1: the Mountaineer vocabulary. With all due respect, fellas, it's been
- 50:22Speaker 1: a long time since our beloved WVU football program has
- 50:25Speaker 1: been nationally relevant on a consistent basis, and it will
- 50:28Speaker 1: be a short time until realignment after the season, patients
- 50:31Speaker 1: can no longer be in our DNA period respectfully, the
- 50:35Speaker 1: Greenbrier ghost, I want to say something to you before
- 50:37Speaker 1: you say something. Sure, I disagree with you on year zero.
- 50:42Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead.
- 50:43Speaker 1: I am buying year zero. Cheer one quicker to fix
- 50:48Speaker 1: not buying zero.
- 50:50Speaker 4: Not buying zero, okay, I'm I'm on zero for a
- 50:53Speaker 4: couple of reasons. One is that and I'll see obviously, Tony,
- 50:57Speaker 4: you don't so bread can settle. This is that since
- 51:02Speaker 4: it's now a year round sport in terms of recruiting
- 51:06Speaker 4: and training and preparation. And I think I think those
- 51:10Speaker 4: are reasonable observations, not excuses. Rich got a late start
- 51:16Speaker 4: mid December. That's actually pretty late when you think about it,
- 51:21Speaker 4: because you got to accumulate the staff. One of those
- 51:25Speaker 4: transfer periods was already over, okay, basically over high school
- 51:31Speaker 4: recruiting was already done, so he really got a late start.
- 51:37Speaker 4: Second of all, and this this is I think a
- 51:39Speaker 4: fastening part of the story, Brad, that that it that
- 51:41Speaker 4: we don't have all the numbers on because they're not
- 51:43Speaker 4: releasing the numbers. Is that several teams, as we know,
- 51:47Speaker 4: front loaded, like Texas Tech frontloaded right before July one
- 51:52Speaker 4: when the rev share kicked in, so they frontloaded. West
- 51:57Speaker 4: Virginia did not. They started July one with the assuming
- 52:01Speaker 4: they would have twenty one million dollars to spend on
- 52:04Speaker 4: the on their sports programs. They don't say how much,
- 52:08Speaker 4: but football got you know, more than half of that,
- 52:12Speaker 4: so I don't know, you know, thirteen fourteen for whatever
- 52:15Speaker 4: the number is, did not spend at all. They held back.
- 52:19Speaker 4: This has been known too, did not spend at all
- 52:22Speaker 4: how much I don't know, three four, five, six million
- 52:24Speaker 4: dollars they didn't spend. So going into the next season,
- 52:28Speaker 4: you're going to have whatever the Lion's share of twenty
- 52:33Speaker 4: one point five or twenty two million dollars is for
- 52:37Speaker 4: football as well as what you held back. So I
- 52:41Speaker 4: think going forward you're going to be in better shape
- 52:44Speaker 4: financially for the next season, much more than you were
- 52:48Speaker 4: this season. Also, when and this is going to I
- 52:51Speaker 4: gotta figure out a way to say this and not
- 52:53Speaker 4: sound terribly derogatory, is that a lot of the a
- 52:58Speaker 4: lot of the work to acquire transfers had already been
- 53:03Speaker 4: done in college football by the time Rich got rolling. MH.
- 53:08Speaker 4: So now he's I guarantee you, like every responsible program,
- 53:13Speaker 4: that they're not only preparing for the next game, but
- 53:17Speaker 4: they're looking around to look at players. So that's why
- 53:21Speaker 4: it's year zero. He hasn't had a full year. He
- 53:24Speaker 4: needs a full year. I do agree that you don't
- 53:29Speaker 4: have a lot of time. That two to three years
- 53:32Speaker 4: is the new five to six years. So to my mind,
- 53:37Speaker 4: he has two or three years to make this program
- 53:40Speaker 4: competitive again.
- 53:42Speaker 3: Right, there's a compelling argument there.
- 53:44Speaker 1: Well done by the jos.
- 53:45Speaker 3: That's that's a compelling case here for a year zero.
- 53:48Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 53:49Speaker 2: I'm starting again. I know a lot of a lot
- 53:51Speaker 2: of teams go through that. I get it, But I
- 53:53Speaker 2: mean I do understand the other side too, where you
- 53:55Speaker 2: do have money are paying guys. So people say there
- 53:57Speaker 2: is nobody has a year zero anymore. You got to
- 53:59Speaker 2: go right away. But that was a compelling argument there.
- 54:02Speaker 2: I think I could buy that, thank you.
- 54:04Speaker 1: The thing that will make this not year zero is
- 54:06Speaker 1: when they go to market this year. They're going to market.
- 54:10Speaker 1: They got they have large resources. They have large resources
- 54:16Speaker 1: right up to the top of the Big twelve conference.
- 54:18Speaker 3: I think, guys, the top five.
- 54:20Speaker 1: Of the Big twelve conference, they're going to market.
- 54:22Speaker 4: So they have more resources. So what so you buy
- 54:25Speaker 4: better players. So it's going to better players quick. So
- 54:27Speaker 4: it's going to be a different year than this year.
- 54:29Speaker 1: You're going to buy better players quicker, which I'm saying
- 54:32Speaker 1: will will expedite your improvement significantly.
- 54:35Speaker 4: Well, then that that's the argument for this being year zero.
- 54:38Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the I'm not looking at three years. Well
- 54:41Speaker 3: he didn't say that either.
- 54:42Speaker 1: He said two to three.
- 54:43Speaker 4: I said, I said two to three.
- 54:44Speaker 3: Four, you went the three. He did say two.
- 54:47Speaker 1: Yeah, he said two to three. I'm not looking at three.
- 54:49Speaker 3: Well he said two to three.
- 54:51Speaker 2: Here here's the other thing, guys, I think that maybe
- 54:53Speaker 2: as in the ballpark of as valuable as the dollars
- 54:56Speaker 2: so great that you've got more money, that that matters.
- 54:59Speaker 2: As we've you also have to your point, evaluation, right,
- 55:04Speaker 2: you have evaluation a longer time to evaluate what you need.
- 55:08Speaker 2: You've got to cut down on the misses in the portal.
- 55:10Speaker 2: You've got to go get guys that can play and
- 55:13Speaker 2: that you know can play. And I think that extra,
- 55:15Speaker 2: that full whatever that becomes at that point at least
- 55:18Speaker 2: another additional nine months of evaluation I think will be
- 55:20Speaker 2: a big benefit to this program heading into next year.
- 55:23Speaker 1: It's a combination the extra evaluation period and the extra dollars,
- 55:28Speaker 1: so they'll have a better idea of who's good enough
- 55:32Speaker 1: and they'll have more money to go spend to get them.
- 55:34Speaker 1: That's the equation that'll expedite it.
- 55:36Speaker 4: And you know, based on this year's experience that look,
- 55:40Speaker 4: you got guys presumable, You got guys you thought could
- 55:42Speaker 4: help you, and you now know with a year of evaluation,
- 55:46Speaker 4: like we got this guy thinking he could help, and
- 55:49Speaker 4: now we know how he matched up against Big twelve competition,
- 55:52Speaker 4: and we need we need to.
- 55:54Speaker 1: Do better correct, which is what Chuck and Fairmont saying
- 55:58Speaker 1: listening to your last show. I've got to disagree. This
- 56:01Speaker 1: feels more like roadwork on I seventy nine rather than
- 56:04Speaker 1: building a house. I think the mediocre, mediocrity of the
- 56:07Speaker 1: last several years has made people impatient. Despite this being
- 56:11Speaker 1: Rich's first year in his second tenure. My only worry
- 56:13Speaker 1: is if we go three, nine, four, eight, do we
- 56:15Speaker 1: have another sixty or seventy leave and are looking at
- 56:18Speaker 1: another year zero next year. I hope this isn't the
- 56:20Speaker 1: start of a really bad cycle. I don't think that's
- 56:23Speaker 1: going to be the case, but there will be a
- 56:26Speaker 1: large number of players again transitioning, whether that's leaving or
- 56:32Speaker 1: coming in. You're going to get that number again. But
- 56:35Speaker 1: that's okay if you're getting to right players.
- 56:38Speaker 4: And also there is don't don't lose sight of the
- 56:46Speaker 4: fact of high school recruiting. I know that seems antiquated now,
- 56:49Speaker 4: but you still do recruit high school players. That's what
- 56:51Speaker 4: he wants and you can get and you know, and
- 56:53Speaker 4: I think if you see what's going on nationwide, you
- 56:57Speaker 4: see guys. You see school are paying more for skill
- 57:02Speaker 4: guys or the key left tackle or the corner or something.
- 57:05Speaker 4: But you can still I think through high school, or
- 57:09Speaker 4: maybe trade through high school. Brad build some of the core,
- 57:14Speaker 4: can't you.
- 57:14Speaker 2: Well, yes, but not right away. I mean that's the
- 57:17Speaker 2: thing with the high school kids. And this program's always
- 57:20Speaker 2: been about development. It still has to find a way
- 57:23Speaker 2: to have some development pieces. But getting a freshman in
- 57:26Speaker 2: and asking them to play immediately, that's going to be hard.
- 57:29Speaker 2: So there does have to be Patience may not be
- 57:32Speaker 2: the right word, but it's going to take some time
- 57:34Speaker 2: to backfill with some high school kids and get them
- 57:37Speaker 2: ready to play. You're still going to have to try
- 57:39Speaker 2: and get for the next year or two heavy portal
- 57:42Speaker 2: guys that can play right away. I heard a basketball
- 57:43Speaker 2: coach talking today say he told his guys, this is basketball,
- 57:47Speaker 2: but he told his guys, treat this like a bar.
- 57:50Speaker 2: What got to be twenty one and we're not interested.
- 57:53Speaker 2: Got to be twenty one and we're not interested. Now
- 57:55Speaker 2: football is different because of the roster size, but the
- 57:59Speaker 2: development piece still I think needs to be important to
- 58:01Speaker 2: Westford any moving forward. I think Rich agrees with that.
- 58:04Speaker 2: He sees that as well.
- 58:05Speaker 1: Yes he does, he wants he His emphasis is going
- 58:08Speaker 1: to be on high school with using the portal as
- 58:11Speaker 1: salt rather than the entree.
- 58:13Speaker 2: And that's where that and to me, the offensive line
- 58:16Speaker 2: is the biggest example of that that there has got
- 58:18Speaker 2: to be some guys in the line that can grow
- 58:20Speaker 2: up over the next couple of years. It can't be
- 58:23Speaker 2: having to go buy twelve offensive linemen every year and
- 58:26Speaker 2: try and find five.
- 58:26Speaker 1: Whereas you probably gonna have to spend five hundred I've
- 58:29Speaker 1: told you this on Sunday. You're gonna have to go
- 58:30Speaker 1: out and spend majority You're gonna have to spend five
- 58:33Speaker 1: hundred on offensive linemen five hundred thousand dollars offensive.
- 58:37Speaker 2: But the hope is you've got two or three guys
- 58:39Speaker 2: that can return that you're comfortable a starter five at
- 58:42Speaker 2: five hundred.
- 58:42Speaker 1: Correct, And another thing along that line. I've asked Rich
- 58:47Speaker 1: twice in the last week or so, can you get
- 58:50Speaker 1: the right players here that do Absolutely? He doesn't even hesitate. Absolutely,
- 58:53Speaker 1: I can get the right guys here to win. And
- 58:55Speaker 1: it's not an issue. So he's not going like no,
- 58:58Speaker 1: He's going like, they're there. I can get these guys.
- 59:00Speaker 4: Well.
- 59:00Speaker 2: Again, it's yeah, that's not hypothetical for him, right, he
- 59:04Speaker 2: in particular he has done that.
- 59:06Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and he's and look, Rich is not out
- 59:08Speaker 4: there in terms of coaching. What is Rich now? Ho
- 59:12Speaker 4: old is he?
- 59:13Speaker 1: Sixty three?
- 59:13Speaker 4: Sixty three? You know, we've seen coaches who are of
- 59:18Speaker 4: that generation who really have had trouble adjusting to the changes.
- 59:24Speaker 4: But I think I don't want to speak for Rush.
- 59:26Speaker 4: I think the Rich is like, hey, here's a way
- 59:28Speaker 4: to go get players. I think that's how he's looking
- 59:30Speaker 4: at it, embracing that and not and not.
- 59:33Speaker 1: Pushing back against. Yeah, he's got no problem he just
- 59:35Speaker 1: wants guys. I think Mike gundhy Mike Gundy's demise. Mike
- 59:40Speaker 1: Gundy's demise was because he wanted to play old school,
- 59:43Speaker 1: and Rich is like, Eh, what's the rule? How do
- 59:46Speaker 1: I get it? Go get guys. Texter Chester from Winchester,
- 59:50Speaker 1: probably not his name, Brad yeah, probably not. Wants to
- 59:53Speaker 1: know if it's too late to schedule a home football
- 59:56Speaker 1: game against Oklahoma State. I think it might be the
- 59:59Speaker 1: help for this year. It is j d from the
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: Southern coal Fields. The throwbacks were nice, but can we
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: get the names on the jerseys next time? They could
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: even do them in Hoppy's new favorite color, bright sky blue.
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: Don't start, Don't start.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: Texter Hello. Just wanted to give a quick shout out
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: and congratulations to former Mountaineer and three Guys guests Dale
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: Blaney on winning at Sharon Speedway Saturday, becoming the oldest
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: person to win a World of Outlaws race. Areas Hoppy,
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: there you go see old Dale. That's Dale in the middle.
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: Now that he got they fired up there in his
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: next picture, he's all jacked up and finally won himself
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: a World's championship at the World of Outlaws.
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: So Dale.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: That's an amazing story. So for those that may be
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: on the younger side, Dale's a Mountaineer Basketball Hall of Famer,
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: one of the all time great Mountaineer basketball players, and
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: family involved in racing obviously brother Dave nephew. The blaming
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: family is becoming, you know, racing royalty. And I did
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: not know he was still running up there, Sharon Motor Speedway.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: They just trade and pain. He wins the World's championship.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: Good for him, graduations deal. He only stops by for
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: a hoop game or two. That's a season.
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: Ye, he's a good player.
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: Oh no, I hate playing good play. He was in
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: the I mean he was an NBA guy. The story,
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: Well know, hey, three guys midweek text here. Like you,
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: guys often say, it's never as good as you think
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: or as bad. After playing Utah, they were definitely better.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: But we still have guys who are working on building
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: the hard edged culture we need and rich we'll get
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: this fixed. One thing I've realized after listening to the
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: post Utah pod is that, unlike our team, our fans
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: are very soft. We have a lot more Karens than
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: we do Kerlavit's all due respect to Karen Kerchievell after
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Doctor Ed's text, Our fans are soft. We had a
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: great time in the blue lots sharing some Putnam County
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: moonshine with Utah fans, and we will continue to support
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: this team and the staff appreciate all you guys do.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: Here is to eight hundred more podcasts, signed by the
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Joker from Poka. Oh.
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: You know, I just want to reemphasize because I wrote
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: a column about this for tomorrow too, for the next day,
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: for Thursday, that.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: Try to quantify the day. It's it's a little difficult that.
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: This is not about I'm trying to have a realistic,
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: fact based observation of where things are and not make
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: excuses or be jingoistic, but look at it realistically. So
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: that's where I'm whether you agree, where.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: You're making your mistake, because this is all about emotion
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: and irrational tell you.
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: So whether you agree or disagree, that's fine. I just
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: want to clarify what my intent is with the kinds
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: of things I've said and the kinds of things I'm
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: writing this week.
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: Absolutely before we go, I'm not done yet.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let me get this in here, because as
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: everybody knows, this is a live program. In this breaking news,
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: so live program, breaking news, I'd like to go right
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: to the breaking. According to on three on three, Nico
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: Markiel redshirting this season.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: Well they just came out with that.
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: Huh really, who's they quoting?
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: Verified source?
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: Who they attribute that to? A source with on three sports.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: They're just going straight with it. So can we claim
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: as first reported?
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: No, because we did not first report it, but we were.
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: Talking about it right quick before we have reaction.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: We did we go with heavy indication? Did we go
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: with well, wait a second, do the math. I did it.
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: I did it the day after. I did it the
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: day after the Monday after the injury. He went to
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Rich on Sunday. I just like the simple thing is like,
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: you're just played four games, bang bang bang bang.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: Now, not to steal your thunder, but about seven hundred
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: thousand people, absolutely right.
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: Okay, absolutely so play that out. So answer this fill
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: in the blank.
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: Suddenly it's become a game show. Yes, go ahead with
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: Ellen Ludden.
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: Boy, you just dated yourself for the Allen Ludden reference.
- 1:04:10Speaker 4: The chances that Nico Markhill will be on the w
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: W football team next season are zero zero.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he just went in the transfer portal.
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: I thought he said just was.
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: A shirt transfer portal, but it's said if Markiel doesn't
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: return to WVU in twenty twenty six, an option could
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: be the transfer portal.
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll change by zero. All right? Two point
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: two probably.
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: Would surprise me. For probably would surprise me.
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: So we've probably we even all likelihood have seen the
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: last of Nico Markule in a Mountain neer uniform.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: I think that's a fair statement.
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: Uh, thank goodness. We do this show live, so we
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: could get that in no break that was.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: Really well done.
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: On your pay up notifire sports size. They got to
- 1:04:52Speaker 4: get that on out like now, yeah, I'll do it.
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, I'm looking because that'll they'll be on
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: that well that okay, hey send that?
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: Where is it?
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Three guys before the game?
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: No way, wait, let.
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- 1:06:07Speaker 1: any more tickets to this or not?
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: Of limited number? Conflicting reports, but I think there's a
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: few floating, Okay.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: The three of us will be a part of a
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: United Way fundwaight fundraiser at the Touchdown Terrace at Mylon
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: Pushcar Stadium for the United Way of Montingalia and Preston Counties.
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: We're going to have a big time. It's moving mountains
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: with the mountaineers and we'll be joined by a great
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: selection of coaches Mountaineer Men's Coach Ross Hodge women's coach
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: Mark Kellogg. We've got Steve Sabans, the baseball coach, and
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: our buddy Jan Greeney Mountaineer volleyball coach. Live and silent auctions.
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: Just a whole bunch of stuff. It's gonna be fun,
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: great night. Might have some music and a few other things.
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: Maybe some student athletes attending. They're gonna be around or
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: just coach.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: Yes, student athletes there as well. We're not bringing the
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: pig we bought. The pig is going to be donated
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: to a food bank. We bought a pig at the
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: Preston County Livestock auction and thanks very much to everyone
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: involved there. But we're going to donate the pig to
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: a food bank. Way takes care of that, because it's
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: not the last thing. Let me tell you, we're lucky
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: we get in the studio. Last thing we need to
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: do about organizing the processed pig. When you think about it,
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: we're not going to we're not getting involved where the
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: pig's going. We're just gonna let people take care of that.
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: Well, I know what you were saying, like the pig
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: is not going to be there, like we were going
- 1:07:34Speaker 4: to show up with the pig. Well, I think that,
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: I think.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: To me, we own the dog on thing. We want
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- 1:07:42Speaker 4: I think that. I think, with all due respect the pigs,
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- 1:07:47Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate take making the ultimate sacrifice to go
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- 1:07:54Speaker 1: It's like the pig at breakfast. You get that bake
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: and he's fully committed. Right, we shouldn't be laughing, No,
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- 1:08:07Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back release. We'll release our next
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