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The Phantom Gold Mine Fallout w/ Johnny Pemberton · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scal Come rob rue, scam, come rubs from Goddess.
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  Speaker 2: What's pop and Congregation, it's your girl, Lacey Mosley aka
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  Speaker 2: Scam Goddess, coming back to you with the podcast all
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  Speaker 2: about comedy, robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them.
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  Speaker 2: We will see in this show and if you are
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  Speaker 2: a long time listener, you already know I am.
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  Speaker 3: What Yes, excited, elated.
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  Speaker 2: Today we have an amazing actor, stand up comedian, and
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  Speaker 2: writer on the show. You've seen him as Thadeus, the
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  Speaker 2: Brotherhood's most Unlikely Squire on Amazon's critically acclaimed TV series Fallout.
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  Speaker 2: You've also seen him in Superstore twenty one Jump Street,
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  Speaker 2: and you've also heard his voice work in Adventure Time,
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  Speaker 2: Pickle and Peanut and y'all know my fave Bob's Burgers. Yes, Congregation,
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  Speaker 2: please welcome Johnny Pemberton to the show.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, hiey, welcome me. Great to be love being here,
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  Speaker 4: super great cough button. Yes, yes, I have to do
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  Speaker 4: do it at least once. You totally can do whatever you want, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'll do it again.
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  Speaker 3: Then it's your studio. You can do whatever you want.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, is it though?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there's pictures of me everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: But I do feel like I'm in your den. This
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  Speaker 4: is not I'm visiting. I'm visiting the uh this is
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  Speaker 4: your nest.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well in my nest. I always ask my guests,
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  Speaker 3: what's your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do
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  Speaker 3: you hate them?
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  Speaker 2: If something happened to you, as have you happened to someone,
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  Speaker 2: and it's past the statue of limitations and we could
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  Speaker 2: talk about it, it could be anything.
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  Speaker 4: I think I kind of obsessed with scams. Actually scams
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  Speaker 4: a good scam as you can park at any meeting
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  Speaker 4: if it's broken and they can't give you a ticket,
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  Speaker 4: it's a great scam. I'm doing it for years.
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  Speaker 3: That's been working for you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing it right now.
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  Speaker 3: I've been told twelve times.
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  Speaker 4: Toad, Oh yeah, I had a broken meter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, okay street when I first moved here. But
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood Toad knows my name. Like I would go in there,
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  Speaker 2: they would pull up my file, like I would go
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  Speaker 2: in they'd be like, hey, Leacy, oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: At the time, it was like two eighty three per.
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  Speaker 2: Toe Jesus twenty dollars a day if you leave it overnight.
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  Speaker 4: It's like five hundred bucks. Yeah, so expensive.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah it was horrible.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've only happened one time, and I was like convinced,
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  Speaker 4: I'll never ever let that happen again.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you like distinguish a broken parking meter?
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  Speaker 4: If you look at it and you're trying to pay,
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  Speaker 4: if there's something lodged in there where you can't put
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  Speaker 4: the card in, if it's like the screen is broken
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  Speaker 4: and you can't read it, it's broken, and you don't
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  Speaker 4: have to pay for it because it's not your fault
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  Speaker 4: that the meter's broken. But the spot is empty, you
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  Speaker 4: can park there.
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  Speaker 3: But I haven't ticketed that way. How are you getting
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  Speaker 3: up with this?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I took a picture of it just now
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  Speaker 4: so I can show it. If I do get a
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  Speaker 4: ticket because it's broken, I might be eating my words
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  Speaker 4: as we speak right now for parking there, But I've
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  Speaker 4: done it a bunch. That's a scam I used to
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  Speaker 4: do with parking. Another great one is if you drive
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  Speaker 4: like an old American built white truck and you have
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of like stuff in the back, like dirt
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  Speaker 4: or rakes or something like that, you can park wherever
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  Speaker 4: you want pretty much because they think you're like a
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  Speaker 4: city truck.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh, that's like a clipboard scam.
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  Speaker 2: Like were you walking away you got a clipboard or
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  Speaker 2: you got like a reflective vent, right, then people will they.
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  Speaker 4: Just think you're like they're to do like city landscaping.
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  Speaker 4: And as long as you as long as the truck
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  Speaker 4: is a certain age, it's American made, and it's white,
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  Speaker 4: and it's like the lowest trim model, and you have,
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  Speaker 4: like I means, a bunch of stuff you can do
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  Speaker 4: that make it more likely that it's a government truck.
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  Speaker 4: But for the most part, I think you won't get
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  Speaker 4: a ticket. You can park in like loading zones, You
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  Speaker 4: can park places where typically you would get ticketed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you do have to drive that truck though, Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: everything comes with you know, there's like everything comes.
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  Speaker 3: With a you got to pick them up in that truck.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but maybe you have the inside super nice. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, you could have it tricked out in the inside.
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  Speaker 2: That was a big scam. I've talked about that on
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  Speaker 2: this show Pinned My Ride.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's a huge scam, massive scam.
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  Speaker 2: They wouldn't even let you sell the cars after you
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  Speaker 2: did the show, Like there was like a whole contract.
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  Speaker 4: Everything they did back then, all all those whole makeover
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  Speaker 4: shows total scams. Same thing.
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  Speaker 3: A fish tank in your car, Yeah, hell, you.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta keep the fish alive. You have to pay like
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  Speaker 4: one hundred dollars a month for special car fish.
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  Speaker 3: Food and fish smell crazy.
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  Speaker 4: They smell the worst. That smell is smell. That's like
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  Speaker 4: the worst smell.
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  Speaker 2: I've said this a bunch of times on the show.
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  Speaker 2: If you've listened for six years, but you already know that.
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  Speaker 2: What people who own fish, I think they're murderers.
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  Speaker 4: Like murderers.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, why pet you can't touch? Why do you want
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  Speaker 2: to own a pet that you put in the little jar?
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  Speaker 2: And you'd be like, yeah, a little pet? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: give you food, like.
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  Speaker 3: What what so?
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  Speaker 4: How is it making my murderer? Though?
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  Speaker 3: Because they want control, like they don't.
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  Speaker 4: Want you don't want any control.
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  Speaker 2: I do, But I want reciprocation. I want the dog
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  Speaker 2: to my dog. Shelby saved my life one time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a dog named Shelby. Really yeah. My
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  Speaker 4: first dog growing up was named Shelby for really, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I was a kid.
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  Speaker 3: What was yours?
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  Speaker 4: She was a Springer Spaniel.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, cute dog.
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  Speaker 4: Break you scam? What's the scam? The dog?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I guess so. I mean they kind of are expensive.
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  Speaker 2: They're expensive, they have health needs they got you gotta
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  Speaker 2: take them to the bay, you gotta.
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  Speaker 3: Take them everywhere, like so expensive, but they're worth it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I love dogs. I love my dog. They help
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  Speaker 4: out immensely and they saved my life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, saves your life.
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  Speaker 4: My therapist is the dog. I feel like, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, because like the dogs are always there
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  Speaker 4: for you and you can kind of like, uh, they
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  Speaker 4: always know when you're feeling really different or bad or shitty.
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  Speaker 4: That always come up and like, hey, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 4: Hey remember this is Everything's fine, everything's chill.
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  Speaker 2: That's my hope is that in reincarnation that come back
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  Speaker 2: as a rich woman's dog.
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  Speaker 4: Oh really, you want to go down carnation? What's up
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  Speaker 4: past human Nothing? We're at the top. We're at the top.
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  Speaker 3: This is it apex predators.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're at the top. This is as good as
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  Speaker 4: it gets. Even like the worst human you've ever met
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  Speaker 4: is still technically an incarnations term, better than like the
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  Speaker 4: best animal, Like they did something better before.
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  Speaker 3: Why I'm not trying to come back as like a route. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: so some type shit like that, Like you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to like I want dog a rat.
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  Speaker 4: It be kind of fun to be a rat.
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  Speaker 3: You would be like a New York City rat, not
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  Speaker 3: a New York.
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  Speaker 4: City or I would be like a special rat that
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  Speaker 4: can live a long time.
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  Speaker 3: That.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I want to be rid of Towey. I could
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  Speaker 4: do that. But that's you know that, that's a downcarnation.
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  Speaker 3: Not enough, Johnny, I could see that for you. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. Rest don't have as much responsibilities as this.
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  Speaker 3: We could.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly what I want.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have to pin on bills.
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  Speaker 4: I want nothing, no responsibilities. I want nothing. That's what
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  Speaker 4: I want is just to not have to think about anything.
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  Speaker 3: Subway. I think I could. I could handle that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can live down there. All your friends are
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  Speaker 4: down there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my homies. It's a party every day.
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  Speaker 4: You don't mind being dirty. It's just awesome being dirty,
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  Speaker 4: like being dirty. But you don't like being dirty. But
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  Speaker 4: if you were a rat, maybe you would maybe be like,
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  Speaker 4: oh this is.
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  Speaker 3: Great, Okay, maybe it might be some freedom in there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like just like fuck it, I'm saying out here.
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  Speaker 4: It's not the best, but We don't know. We don't
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  Speaker 4: know if it's bad scarce.
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  Speaker 5: God.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going into historic hoodwings.
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  Speaker 2: This is where I will regale Johnny with a famous
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  Speaker 2: con caper group of criminals.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know yet.
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  Speaker 2: This was a little detailed, which I'm glad that you're
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  Speaker 2: such a great listener. So today we're talking about the
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  Speaker 2: gold Rush.
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  Speaker 3: The gold Rush didn't end with the Old West, and
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  Speaker 3: the largest mining scam in history actually happened.
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  Speaker 4: In the nineties.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the history expert.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And this is a place when like a prospector
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  Speaker 2: in the darkest jungles of Indonesia faked the existence of
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  Speaker 2: six billion dollars worth of like of a mine. So
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  Speaker 2: a six billion dollar mine.
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  Speaker 4: Six This man just like to find choose none.
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  Speaker 2: He pretended he had it, and who's gonna check him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to Indonesia, Like, if you come to me,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, hey, hey, buddy, Hey.
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  Speaker 4: Scott's Scott.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a white guy named right, he's forgot Hey, Brian, Brian, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: I got a new mine for you, Like we got
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  Speaker 2: money coming in.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be like, yeah, sure, I'm not gonna go. Look.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what they did. The gold rush ended.
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  Speaker 2: Almost like two hundred years ago, right, but new gold
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  Speaker 2: mines are still being found in some areas of the world.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a lot harder to do it, obviously than
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  Speaker 2: it used to.
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  Speaker 4: Be hard to get it. Got to dig.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they don't want to dig. They just want
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  Speaker 2: to steal land and get somebody else speak. So in
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  Speaker 2: the nineties and just seemed like a land of opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for prospectors. It might have had a lot of natural
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  Speaker 2: resources hiding in the jungles and hadn't been.
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  Speaker 3: Like exploited by the West.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know that's what we do? So obviously it's
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  Speaker 2: a place of dress. Yeah, like Venezuela. We're not over
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  Speaker 2: there for oil. We were trying to help stop in
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  Speaker 2: the drug trying.
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  Speaker 4: To stop people's hurt the drugs. Would you so terrible things? No,
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  Speaker 4: why would we do that? That would that would make.
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  Speaker 2: It so funny to watch the US government get frustrated
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  Speaker 2: with the old tactics that they used to use not
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  Speaker 2: working anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they are working on Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: We have TikTok. We know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: It's not some of us. Oh that's fake, that's a
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  Speaker 4: fake lie. That's not real. That's really that's a real thing.
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  Speaker 4: They really did that drug boat. It's drug boats.
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  Speaker 3: Also, like okay, if you sell the little drugs, that
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  Speaker 3: means you need to get exploded, Like can we have
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  Speaker 3: some due process, Like get them at the water and
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: talk to them. Yeah, what do you mean you get
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  Speaker 3: exploded for even even if they.
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: Were right, even if due process is gone, it's yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's done.
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  Speaker 3: No more. Yikes.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's just process. No more, do no more.
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  Speaker 5: It's just just straight up process.
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  Speaker 4: Just what we do. It's due process instead of due process.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not due anymore.
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  Speaker 4: This is the process we do.
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  Speaker 3: We're doing it to you. We're doing we do.
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  Speaker 4: We just blow them up.
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  Speaker 3: We decided this is the process that we're doing it.
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  Speaker 4: We first ask no questions at all, at all, at all.
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  Speaker 4: Bomb first, no questions.
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  Speaker 3: And don't ask me and don't repeat it. Forget everybody. Forget.
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  Speaker 2: So in nineteen ninety three, a Canadian pennystock mining company
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  Speaker 2: called bre X acquired the rights to a piece of
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  Speaker 2: land situated in the heart of the vast rugged island
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  Speaker 2: of Borneo. The Asian island is shared between three countries, Brunei, Malaysia,
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  Speaker 2: and Indonesia.
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  Speaker 3: So now we're looking at bre X.
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  Speaker 4: There it is.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great, very official building.
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  Speaker 4: BREX.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, brex is sometimes about an ex that fuck you elon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never call that website. I call it well,
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  Speaker 2: my mama named it. My mama named it twitter. It's Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: I'm never gonna call it X.
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  Speaker 4: But that's one of the dumbest things anyone's ever done.
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  Speaker 2: Is I mean, that's such a scammer tactic. You just
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  Speaker 2: throw an X on there and it's like, what dick.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like everything's that way. This isn't space, this is
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  Speaker 4: space X. This is like gen X. This is model
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  Speaker 4: x X sex about sex. It's just two lines that
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  Speaker 4: are crossed.
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  Speaker 3: It is very sexy.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the worst sex sex X.
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  Speaker 3: How your mouth forms and it's like six sex.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say that way sex sex sex. Y'all won't have sex.
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  Speaker 3: How what's the worst way we can say sex?
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  Speaker 4: Midwestern? Oh God, we're gonna have sex.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go Pittsburgh. We'll see. Oh we're going
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  Speaker 3: to Oh that's not it.
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  Speaker 4: I can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do pitt I can do pitt I came
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: from Pittsburgh, did Yeah, Well, not came from Pittsburgh. I'm
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: from Texas, but I went to college there.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's like the OL's a really hard, like
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  Speaker 3: the old.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to the old Kuysians sacks, sacks, sacks, sack.
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  Speaker 3: That's terrible.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like, how many sacks of it? Oh? No,
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  Speaker 4: sacks sacks bad?
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  Speaker 3: Sex sounds bad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the isolated site was positioned in rivers Head, where
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  Speaker 2: several large mining companies had previously subverted the area and concluded.
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  Speaker 3: It lacks valuable minerals.
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  Speaker 2: So basically they put the ship in the bum fuck
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  Speaker 2: up nowhere where everybody was like we should not be here,
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  Speaker 2: like this is not a good land.
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  Speaker 3: And they were like sacks Like they were like the
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  Speaker 3: X is enough.
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  Speaker 4: There's sacks of gold here, There's sacks of it. There's
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  Speaker 4: just tons of sacks of gold here, Come get it.
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  Speaker 3: I believe you, Johnny may believe you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're bumpkin enough, people believe you because they
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  Speaker 4: think you don't know how to lie. Yeah, that's an
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  Speaker 4: old tree. That's an old scam man.
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  Speaker 3: That's a scam that's working on us right now.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I technically been scamming the whole world for
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  Speaker 4: a long time pretending to be stupid.
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  Speaker 3: That's the ultimate scam.
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  Speaker 4: You just act stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Yo, It's one of my favorite scam.
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  Speaker 4: It's the ultimate.
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  Speaker 3: So overland, what's that? It's a place?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The journey to the site takes five hours and ends
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  Speaker 2: at a small village where the second leg starts by boat,
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  Speaker 2: so we ain't even air yet.
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  Speaker 4: Never never do that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like multiple locations, Like why are we Why
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  Speaker 2: do we have to get on different.
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  Speaker 4: Different modes of trans this plane to jeep to boat.
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  Speaker 4: When you get in the boat, that's when you're like
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  Speaker 4: club another.
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  Speaker 3: But no, I'm out.
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  Speaker 2: So then it takes another six hours up river and
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  Speaker 2: then two hour hike.
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  Speaker 3: To get to the potential mine.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, that's a great place to hide.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing honestly strategic, Like I'm kind of proud, but Breex
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  Speaker 2: Mineral CEO David Walsh at a break. He had declared
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  Speaker 2: personal bankruptcy in nineteen ninety two and his company was
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  Speaker 2: basically a shell, barely surviving. He looked up an acquaintance
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  Speaker 2: he'd met ten years earlier in Australia, a Dutch explorer
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  Speaker 2: who was known as the Indiana Jones of geologists, which.
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  Speaker 4: Sure he called himself that he did.
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  Speaker 3: It's spread it around. He spread it around, and this
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  Speaker 3: is this is the Indiana Jones of geologists. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: he don't even look like he ever been around o
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  Speaker 3: rocks and no dirt. Okay, this man looks.
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  Speaker 4: Like he looks like he sleeps in rocks and dirt.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. He looked like he's seeing something.
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  Speaker 4: He's smoking marb lights. He's got his shirt open.
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  Speaker 3: The rocks popped out and scared him like he's terrified.
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  Speaker 4: That's a crusty man right there.
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  Speaker 2: But look at his eyes and red underneath, like he's
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  Speaker 2: seen something.
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  Speaker 4: He's killed. He has killed, Oh for sure, he's buried
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  Speaker 4: someone who was still breathing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, he's definitely a murderer. But yeah, he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: see too much the my eyes ain't you can't you
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: can't hide.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: I love how this is the photo of film, Like
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: what is this picture? This is definitely taken from far away,
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: like the worst photo of it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: He looks like a private investigator took it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like like a woman was like, is my husband
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: cheating on me?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: And then they took that picture. Okay, he's just Mindy's
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: what he's posed for and he's still.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: The same guy on the right. Huh, A little younger,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: little more eyebrows.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Is he a redhead?
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: It's the guy in the right, though, it's a guy
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: on the right. Okay, got the bushy eyebrows. John felderolf Well.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Walsh reached out to John Feldroff and asked Feldroff if
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: he knew any potential mining projects.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: A month later, Walsh spent his last ten thousand dollars
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: on a trip to Indonesia to visit him.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: So there they are, this is Walsh's last ten k.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: And he was like, I gotta I gotta make a bid.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I gotta make a play, like I need money, Like
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: we gotta, we gotta go up. So I mean, Walsh
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: looks like he's trying to make something happen. He got
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: his tie on, he got his suit on. He like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: come on, like, let's let's get.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: A coin to trying to appear presentable.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So John believed the remote site was a gold mine
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: waiting to be exploited. He had already discovered a massive
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: gold and copper mine in Papua New Guinea, and prospectors
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: and developers like the Association of Canada.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Named him Prospector of the Year.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So they were like, you finding all the money, John,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: we gonna name you Prospector of the Year for finding
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: money and stealing resources from people.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: What a great award.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very American award, Prospector of the Year.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: You went and found stuff to steal from people.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Good for you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: So people in the mineral business assumed he knew like
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: what he was talking about. He said he made the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: same magic happen in Borneo. He just needed like some
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: startup funds. So now he's like, I need some coin.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the same thing I did at the
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: other place.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: That's the ultimate scam, right, is you need money to
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: help you get more money?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I needs I've got a bunch of money over here,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: but I need some money to get it.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Damn. That's a Nigerian scam.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like it's the original scam, right Johnny.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's one of the scam meccas.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: It's the dutchyst India Trading company.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, you spin well. Walsh agreed to have bree X.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: That's the company with the X fund. John's expedition by
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: selling the promise of the mind to potential investors.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: So now they're going to dinners. Now they have a steak,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: and they're like.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, heyte John, buddy, Okay, now that the wives are
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: in the bathroom, let's stalk.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about hawk to a coin. That's all this
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: is right, it's the same thing. It's the same as
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: howk to a coin it is.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that's so revelatory, joh god. And so he
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: sold Breex's North American mineral interest and they pulled together
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to pay for
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the acquisition of Borneo site. And they began to do
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: this like exploration work, right, So this is a news site.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: This is where they're setting up.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're getting the coins ready.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So in a newspaper interview, Walsh said, I'm looking for
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: the bucket of gold at the end of the rainbow.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Well, rainbows aren't real. So I mean they are real,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: but there are no lepracons gold or leprechan and there's no.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Leprechauns, just silly and Murphy.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So two months after the small operation began, drilling, project
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: manager and Filipino mining prospector Michael de Gusman reported that
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: they had hit the jack Pat Michael had been born
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: on Valentine's Day and definitely acted like it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: This is Michael.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: What does that mean to act like you're born on
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Valentine's Day?
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: He's a ah, this guy, Okay, he's a lady's mustache.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: That mustachio. You have a mustache?
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Deal? Yeah?
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Are you a casanova?
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I don't know if that
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: qualified said.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It feels like it might be.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I think it's for me to judge.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: How about that? I think it's self proclaimed casanova as
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: bad as it gets.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I feel like you've you've had.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Some some situations where they wanted to keep your car.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Haven't you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Oh maybe a long time ago, long time ago, yeah, Hans, yes,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: married so yeah yeah, long time ago.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: So okay, But casanova to your wife still sure?
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think she would agree with that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: She would you better go cast a hole like Casanovasova
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: right now?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: You better go Castanhova hurt tonight?
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will period well because I didn't say I'm
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: a casanova. Yeah, I don't know if that. I'm sorry
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: about it. We live in different worlds. I guess I
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: don't think that qualifies. I'm definitely not gonna say I'm
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: a casanova. That's like saying you're like, no.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't because this guy, this guy guy I feel.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Like he has on the Instagram.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: No, no, no no.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I think he has ultimate game, Like, ain't nothing about
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: him physically attracted, right, But I bet you if you
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: met him in person, the riz like might take you
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: over maybe, and the next thing you know, you land
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: up next to him in the morning, like how did
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I get here?
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know. I feel like he got that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I'm getting Bruno Mars energy from him.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know much about Bruno Marris, just up there.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I know he likes to gamble, Yeah he does. He does.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: So you got that Vegas residency and he's trying to
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: make it if you.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Got that Vegas residency as much as they're like, hey,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: you're doing a Vegas resident and see because we owe
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: us a lot of money. I say that as a joke,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: but I think that's true.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Do you think you a dancer?
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: For the.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Absolutely? I think he's in debt up to his eyeballs
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: and they're like, Okay, so you're gonna be here for
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: the next six years. Bitch, You're gonna be doing this
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: whether you like it or not, because you are in debt.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, he lost this plate was like, don't believe it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Just watch, Like, yeah, don't believe you. Just watch. He's like, oh,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: don't he bet on red? And it was black and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: he's like, Okay, well, I guess you don't believe me,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: And now it's to watch. This is what happens to
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: all those guys. It's like, as soon as you get
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: super rich, you just end up spending more than you
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: have because you don't know how much you have. And
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: next thing you know, you're like in debt in a
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: way you didn't know it's even possible. Yeah, especially if
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: you're like tangential to any mafia at all, you know,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: because they pick up on that and they know that
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: you've got money and they're gonna like befriend you and make.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: You and if you're reckless with it, because a lot
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: of times, like when you're really rich like that, the
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: money comes in.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Very quickly, very fast, and you understand no, Yeah, the
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: best way to stay rich is not making any money.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Also, to keep your money, keep money to.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Be anonymous, like I mean, it happened.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: To be like one of those like New Balance rich
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: people in like a five thousand dollars T shirt, and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: nobody knows who I am or what I do.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Like every billionaire, basically, no one knows who you are.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: It's like a billionaires people actually know.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: But if I become a billionaire, I have to kill
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: some people. That's like a part of it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I think you definitely do.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like even if people are.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, well, I didn't actually kill him, I'm like
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: they that on your watch, you you were involved.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: A little touch of blood on you.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want that, so maybe not. I don't
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: want to go to Congress.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I want to just be successful.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: And you're doing it right. Yeah, so you already did.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: It, but I didn't want to tell people about it
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: too late. You just I don't know is our secret?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Don't I don't know that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I know what you're going on Castanova with a wife
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and all your money.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: I got my money hidden really good.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Been snooping.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I I have my money. I had real good. I'm
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: under I don't even know if I want. It's the shore,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: it's in space.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, mercury money, a little run.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: We're getting back into this so to refresh, you'll, because
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: we have we've jumped. So remember we got this project going.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: John thinks it's a gold man, right. He hires these people.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: He's got the small operation. Michael de Guzman, the Filipino man.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: He thinks he hit the jackpie.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: He's running the mining operations.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: M hm, and Michael, you know, was more of Valentine's Day.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: We saw his Casanova.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: He had four wives, oh my god, nine children.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: At all the same time, across different countries who did
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: not know about each other. He was known for wearing
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: lots of gold, drinking beer, hanging out at strip clubs,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: doing karaoke, and as well for being an experienced geologist.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is the guy. The reason he's
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: experienced geologist because he has to make enough money to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: pay for all those kids. He was a philanderer first,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: then he became a geologist to pay for everything.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: He was like, how I a much support my four
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: wives and nine kids?
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: God, geology? That sounds like the worst life ever, Casanova,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: And also.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Like, how do you have time to be at this
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: strip club? Like they have excellent wings. They do have
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: great wings, like, well, magic City, some good wings down,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I said, where is that? One time I was at
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the Strip club in Houston and I was with a
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: football player.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Who was like playing for a professional team. I'm not
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: going to say beyond that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Tell me later. I gotta know.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Was like, Hey, I'm gonna get you out some ones
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the stripper who's coming over to our section. We went
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to high school together. See, I'll make sure you'll tipper well.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, like some people just be hanging out
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: in the strip.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the wings were real good and she was
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: shaking that ass and we was I was, I was
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: eating some flats and it was it was a time
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: dry rubber.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: We're talking about hair. What kind of wings?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm a.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Wing of Fishonado. I make my own wings. I make
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: the best wings you make wings. I make, like, I
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: think the best wings ever I've ever had.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Personal Okay, I want some of your wings because like
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I'm more.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Of an Asian style, Like I like a sweet and spicy,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: but this was like buffalo and lemon pepper, lemon pepper line,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: which is like lemon pepper.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I love cilantro so bad for the people who taste
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: it in it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: You know what was frous for us?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, more cilantro for I'll take it. Oh, it's so good.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I can eat so much cilantro can too.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I'll just be buying it by the bush.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I love it. Don't want to grow shit, you should grow.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: It's easy to grow a certain time of the year.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: It's easy to grow. Yeah, okay, just chop it down fresh.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Well this man, this man is not doing that. This
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: man is no, he doesn't.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Have time to grow cilantro because he's busy with four
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: wives and nine kids and wearing lots of gold and
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: also being at the strip club and do a.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Karaoke, which I think is whimsical. I like it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I love karaoke. Karaoke is the best.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: So I like.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I like this guy's vibe so far. Like Michael, you
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: on my team a little bit. So In nineteen ninety four,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Michael brought John. Remember John is the investor who wants
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to make the money and Reex businessman like some crushed
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: core samples basically like centrical samples of soil and rock
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: in the area and the river with enough little bits
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: of gold in them that indicated that bree X may
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: have just purchased one of the largest gold deposits ever discovered.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: So this man, I love.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Him for his whimsy because he literally brought them some dirt.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: He was like, here's some dirt, and look at some
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: shiny stuff in there.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: He ground up a bracelet and put some gold in there.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: But he was like, look at the dirt.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Though, I got this from the land, y'all, look at
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the dirt. First estimates, based on Michael's examples, said that
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: there might be over one hundred and thirty six thousand
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: pounds of gold buried deep in the JO hundred.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of gold.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of gold.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: That's a million dollars probably, Yeah, it's probably a million dollars.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: It might be.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: And depending on a million, gold fluctuates with the economy.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So so a year later, Michael's coarse sample estimates had
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: gone up to two million pounds.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Now you know the pound is stronger than the dollar.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And in ninety nine seven they more than doubled, reaching
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: almost five million pounds of rumored gold hiding just beneath
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the surface.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: This for nail mine.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: It's right there in Barney. Oh you can get it,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: go get it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: It's right come on.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And a final estimate given during a conference call with
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: investors from JP Morgan John Fetterhoff.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: He suggested that there could be over thirteen million pounds
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: of gold waiting to be dug up. So remember we
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: went from one hundred and thirty six thousand.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Pounds to thirteen million, million.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: To five million.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: My god, so thirteen and as of right now, a
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: pound of gold is worth like eighty thousand dollars. So
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: that's over a million dollars worth of gold. Oh wait, wait,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's more than a million. Yeah, way, I'm
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: just kidding. Yeah, it's proud, way, it's a million dollars.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: And then in three years since the gold had been discovered,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: a bustling mining town had even sprung up on the.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Site with its own church and school.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: You know, when you get a church and a school involved,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you really got a town because the children yearn for
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the mines.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Kids love working in mind, that's a that's a
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: scam too. Kids love working.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: In Mind's love working mind.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: They love it. It's so much fun.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Like what is a playground but a mine that we
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: created for children to remember how they love working in mine.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: It's just an above ground mine. It's a sandbox. It's
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: just a kind of a mine.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: It's a mine. We gotta get them back in the mines.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: That's where they want to be mine. And they're small.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: They're getting the cracks and the crevices like we need
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: them back in the mind.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: I love crevices, Kids love Kids Love Crevices. That's my
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: new nonprofit, Kids and Kids in Crevices, Kids for Crevices.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: We're sponsoring a Trump's third term.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing a fun walk.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: We're doing a fun Crevis walk for kids. That's a crawl.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: It's more of a Crevis crawl.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: It is a crevice crawl.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: So when bree X remember our company here, they first
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: purchased the Borneo land their stock, we're selling around thirty
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: cents apiece.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: But as the tales.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Of their Insane Discovery Group, their nearly worthless stock rose
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to around two hundred and fifty dollars a share. What
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: thanks to forty thousand new investors.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: That's a huge increase. D Yeah, time to.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Sell it and this brought the value of the company
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: to what would be six billion dollars in today's money
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: at the time. Lehman Brothers, my favorite of all the brothers.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love the lead favorite banks.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: It's definitely still around today, those Lehman brothers.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Well, isn't Lamen Brothers the reason we had the two
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: thousand and eight financial crisis?
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we love them for love them.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for making my record.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: The coolest guys.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Will never be able to own anything that's so cool.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Prime Subprime, theprime baby.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: So the Glow financial firm whose bankruptcy sped up the
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: mortgage of two thousand Johnny. Yes, they called They called
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it the gold discovery of the century. They strongly recommended
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: their investors by breax stock because.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta buy this, it's a hot property.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, get it, get it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: God and Michael the Guzman are Filipino and Casanova. With
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the four wives and the nine kids. He became a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: millionaire four times over having cashed in stock options. So
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: he knew when to get in and get out. And
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that. You got kids to take
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: care of, you got nine of you got nine, go
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: take care of the babies.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he did not.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Nick Cannon of the scamming gold mining world, like, you
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: gotta go take care of your keys.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Do you think those kids got taken care of? Though
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: they may not.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Get like like like physical parent love, but they at
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: least get.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Some money because they spent it all.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I think he gave something back to his babies because
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: he feels like a little arrogant enough that he's.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Like, want to take care of him.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Well, he needs the legacy to continue.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. That guy strikes me as a
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: real piece of ship.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Do you have kids?
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: No kids? Now?
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I don't have no kids either, yea, no kids, no kids.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Are you gonna get some I'm.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Gonna get some. I'm gonna once I get my gold
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: once I get you, once my gold mine goes online, Okay,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: then I can get some kids. Work worn have kids
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: to work there.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like it would be good with some unemployed roommates,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, there is gonna be sucking off your
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: resources and and then eventually they'll like get weird and
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: smelly and ugly, and then they'll get cute again, but
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: they'll be mean to you.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: This sounds like you have experience with this story. Sounds
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: like it's ripped from your life, not a not mine.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's called being the oldest sister.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm the oldest brother, so the same thing.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta stand in the gap. What are
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: you doing, bro?
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Or the experiment for your parents? Oh?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Fuck, absolutely the experiment.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So back to the Skuzma guy. He sells his stock,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: he makes your money.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Makes a bunch of money. David Walsh, Remember David Walsh.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: The ten k mm hmm. But now he's got a Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Now things are like going his way. So his personal
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: fortune reached two hundred and fifty million dollars. To David Wash,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: bri X was trading on the Alberta Stock Exchange more
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: than one hundred and fifty five dollars per share. It
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: was worth as little as twelve cents per share in
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, so they big up damn. Indonesian President
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Suaharto took an interest in the massive windfall that had
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: been discovered in his country. First, he revoked Briex's approval
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to exploit the land. He said the company was too
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: small to mine the area by itself. Honestly, I'm not
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: mad at that because like y'all coming to in my
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: country and look at him, he's standing on business. He
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm coming to my country, still all
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: my shit, Like what no, if this is if there's
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: some wealthier it's for.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Us, which but there there I mean.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Eventually, Sirharto and BREX worked out a deal for shares
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: of the mind to be split between bre X and
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the Government of Indonesia and a more established US mining company,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Freeport mclorin copper and gold. This meant that Freeport would
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: need to independently verify that there was gold at the site. Okay,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: so now they were like all right, Sir Haarto was like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: bro y'all can't come in here and just drill all
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: my shit. I own this land, like the fuck. And
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the US was like are you kidding me? Like we're
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the colonizer of the world. We go where the money
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: is and we take it. Like what do you mean
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: give it to us, don't make us through a war
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Like, we're the best at it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: We're the best at it. You want us to have
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: all of your themes?
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Let us help you.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Let us help you by taking everything that you have
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: of value. And he was like, I'm not playing a game.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: He was like, Okay, let's come to a dude. We're
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: gonna split this and let's get another company involved. So
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the company that they got involved Freeport mccoran and Copper
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and Gold. They're an independent contractor. Uh oh, because now
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: they go and they survey the land.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: There's nothing there. Yeah, just a bunch of monkey shit
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: like pandas and like there's like orangutanks right after I
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: rangutang sub borneo's a bunch of orangutangs. Those are pretty
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: cool though.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: And ship there nothing, nothing, no things. So Michael, are casanova?
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Right? Much like you sure married casanova.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I'll take it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: You better still be a casanova while you marry. You
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: got to keep it up. You gotta go on dates.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: You gotta keep the spark alive.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, I will, all right, jeez, I've been traveling a lot.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well do you better get you some some
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: outfits or something. And then they have a little candlelight dinners.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I know, I was out of town for a long time.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I was out of town working on a movie. I was.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I'm back, but okay, I'll make dinner tonight. I will.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: I'll make dinner.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Spaghetti is easy. You can make some spaghetti. And and
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: here's a trick spaghetti.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Here's a trick for me and get some Italian sausage
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: instead of the regular ground beef. Do Italian sausage sausage?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Like just like you know clearly, is she like some sausage?
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, some, for sure. It's not Italian. It's like
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: something else, American sausage, mixed American sausage.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Michael has been sprinkling his core examples with gold dust.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I know it, called.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: It yup and like, also, like, why would you just
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: be believing somebody who just came in and was like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: here's a cup of dirt. It's from that place.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Scale what be serious?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Everybody be serious.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: You never believe a guy who has currently more than
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: one wife. We cannot believe that guy.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: So Michael, you know, he had his gold dust and dirt,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: which honestly goal of mind to just show up with
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: some dirt and be like, hey, this is from where
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I said it's from y'all y'all going in VS believe.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I feel like I can make them believe me.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you do host a podcast called Scam Goddess.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that might sort of be worse than having
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: multiple wives in different countries as far as like you think,
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be they're gonna be like, Okay, more.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: People against scams though it's very out in the open.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what is it takes one to know one.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Damn, you're not wrong. You don't got to be so loud.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: So Michael, he got his dust gold. At first he
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: used shavings from his own wedding ring.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Well, I call it, he said, bracelet. But that's still
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: a cylindrical thing, goes on a hand.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Also, a wedding ring over here with me, come over
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: here with me, A wedding with me, you with me.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: I'm over here. Yeah, a wedding ring that's completely like
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: that's so that's such a thing for him to do too.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: What a bastard?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Right wedding is this ring?
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: He probably has one that he tells each of the
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: wives that's the only one he has.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Crazy And how much gold is all your wedding ring
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: that you can do this?
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: What?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Later he used sixty one thousand dollars worth of locally
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: plant like panned gold. He used it in realistic ratios
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: of gold to rock to not set off alarm bells.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: That's kind of smart, yeah, and to keep the project
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: going forward. Sprinkling value metals gemstones particularly like gold or
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: diamonds into the coarse samples from a mind to inflate
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the apparent value of the deposit.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: It's called salting. It's a good scam.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: It's fraud. I guess right. It's the biggest fraud you
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: can pull in mineral exploration.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: It sounds so cute.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Salting. I'm just salting.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just salty.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: You're just a little salting. A big deal.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Y'all want flavor, right, I'm not doing crime, just a loom,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: just salting.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: You gotta do like the.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Salt bay, just a little wow, a little salting. And
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: it's the biggest fraud you can pull in mineral exploration.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Other geologists have taken a look at the samples and
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: raised suspicions the gold flecks and the soil were rounded,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: which usually only happens to gold in an aquatic environment
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: where water current, like the water current.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Erodes the shape.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Interesting, yes, yeah, not in the soil right right, so
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: it should be more jagged.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like a rock like beach.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: What gold rock is.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: But their reservations didn't stop Brex from becoming a six
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: billion dollar company and from their executives becoming millionaires over nigh.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: That was beautiful.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we harmonize.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: The freeport partnership was finalized in February of nineteen ninety seven,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and shortly after that, the record keeping room where the
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: core samples were stored at the Breex headquarters in Borneo.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: It burned down in a mysterious fire. Oh that's weird.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: A mysterious fire. Weird, A mysterious fire. I've never heard
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: of that ever.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Happenings.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all fires are so mysterious, especially when they happen
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: in a convenient place.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And a convenient time. It was just a fire.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Well what they call Greek lightning. You heard that term,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: or Italian lightning. It's like what they'd say when like
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: the mob would burn down a business so they could
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: catch it on the insurance, called Greek lightning.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Greek lightning.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: That might be a derogatory term, but I just said it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's it's I'm sure we're looking at
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: it anthropologically.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Greeks can handle it. They've been run along
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: onough that can.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: That'll be fine. So they had their Greek lightning.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: And as the deal was finalized, Michael our sexy guy,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: John our desperate guy who put in the tin k
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: but then became a millionaire and other Breex executives attended
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: a mining conference in Toronto. The weeks leading up to
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the Canadian trip, Michael, our lover boy, called his mother
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: several times, saying evil spirits were invading him.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Oh suck.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: I hate when that happens. When evil spirits invade me,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: it's one of the worst It's one of the worst things.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Mom. Inconvenient. I need to get guessed evil spirits. Why
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: y'all invaded me right now?
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Like evil spirits forgot they forgot to pay the child
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: support the evil spirits.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I'm on a date evil spirits, y'all gonna invade me
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh, I have have diarrhea. What's what's evil spirits again?
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Now that's when they're leaving you?
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, or could be you know, I have spirits,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: go all all. I get invaded by spirits in many
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: different ways.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I'm tired of getting invaded by evil spirits.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm with Michael on this, like this makes total
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: sense to me. So his mother later told investigators, look
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: at my body.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: They're using black magic on me.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Oh cool, Yeah, the investigators will pray for.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Me, mom. They want to kill me.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: This guy's all got busted. Right.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: So, while contemplating, Now, remember Michael the lover boy, calls
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: his MoMA and he says, I'm in danger.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Girl.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like they're trying to kill me. They're trying
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: to kill your favorite bitch.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: That's desperation right there.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: So, while contemplating death, probably because.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: He knew his scheme would be soon to be found out,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: he was living it up in Toronto. Almost every night
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: he went to a local strip club. You know he
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: loved a strip club. You know he a lover boy.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: He went to the strip club called for Your Eyes Only. Now,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: let's look at this. It's a brick and mortar build.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: It don't look like nobody need to be naked up
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: in there, like I'm sorry. This is not an establishment
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: where I'm gonna take my clothes off.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Does not look like a very fun place.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Sex work is work. I'm not saying wings snow wings. Yeah, No,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting booty naked up in there.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Like something is off.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: So Michael is drowning his sorrows in this strip club,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: brick and mortar, for your eyes only, And he made
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: a friendship with an exotic dancer.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's interesting.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he took.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Her flowers and proposed, unsuccessfully trying to make her his
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: fifth wife.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: He got four wives already, and he was like, I
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: need another wife.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like this man has an existential crisis and
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: gets a wife.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, oh God, everything's going bad. I need
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: a wife. I need to go get another wife.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: But someone else buys a bunch of donuts. This guy
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: gets a wife.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, someone cuts in front of him in line and
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: he's like, I need i wife. I can't I can't
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: live like this. God, that's definitely what he's doing.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: He's stacking his problems. He's like exponentially creating problems for himself.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Any of the wife. I got nine kids, four wives,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I need a fifth wife. So we have a content
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: warning here.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Oh I love a content warning.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: As we reached the conclusion. So a month later, on
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: March nineteenth, it gets a little dark.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, I like dark.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Michael fell Or was pushed right, we don't know from
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: a helicopter.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, people always fall to helicopters all the time.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: It's at trip and fall out a helicopter.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the most common.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Actually, So he while flying over borneo thank you.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Craig got pulled out by an orangutank.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Flying over the strong the Borneo Jungle on the way
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: to a due diligence meeting with the freeport officials. To
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the mineral people, his body was reported identified by a molar.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: A molar, A tooth, Oh, a tooth. I thought it
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: was a guy like I'm a molar, you.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Know, I know a molar A tooth?
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, by a tooth. Cheez.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: It was like this ham and it was a tooth.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: The last gold one he had.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I love humans in that way, because how did
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: we figure out that we could just have one tooth
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and be like.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know what it is. It's Michael. This one
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: tooth is Michael. We know what he is. No, this
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: is tooth. Remember when he had that tooth in his mouth?
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: So I gotta take the teeth out and cut the
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: hands off before you disposed of a body.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Period.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: That's what I always do say.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, I can never kill anybody. That's so
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: much work.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Well, you have someone else do the work, you kill
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: them and then you have like a no, the there's.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: A liability because somebody know you was in cahoots. Yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: you can't be in kahoots.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: I hate being in cahoots.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I hate being inots. This is ghetto.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Like that's a good barnet cahoots.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Hmmm, maybe like a lesbian bar cahoots.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, could be cute, ironic.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: This guy died and they found a thumbprint after wild
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: animals had ravaged the rest of his buddy.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: They mind him. They mind him for his gold, because
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: that's what animals do you know? Flash is gold?
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: My jungle crazy? Why would you say that?
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, content warning. Oh, I gotta take it and
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: use it. Use the content warning for Altsworth.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: In the back of the helicopter, police found a plastic
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: shopping bag containing two sets of handwritten notes, one addressed
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: to Bernard Leod, a Breex accountant, whom Guzman barely knew.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: It's giving lover. Did you got four wives? He wanted five? Sir?
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Are you gear? Are you gay?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: It's giving gey. I know when you're a part of
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the community. I know that's why you ain't want the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: autumn wives.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: You wanted a husband. Maybe he needed one.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: So Michael indicated that he killed himself to escape the
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: suffering of hepatitis B, even though he had just contracted
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: the virus, and medical documents suggested it was serious. Indonesian
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: police ruled is that the suicide, but many questioned that conclusion,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: and some questioned whether he was actually did.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Oh so maybe he dropped that molar in the jungle,
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: the Tupac situation.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, I heard it on the islands. Don't ask me.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Which Okay, will he still be with Jada though?
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Before all, we know they might be keeping them from us.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: We don't know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I think they're definitely keeping stuff from us.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, so maybe Michael is still alive. He don't know.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Days after Michael's suicide, Freeport reported that they had discovered
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: no gold at the site, taking samples just over a
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: meter from where Brix had drilled.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: The jig was it was.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Up no gold, none gold.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: And I think Michael was like he knew it. He
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: was the one who bought the cup of dirt.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was like, damn, y'all gonna go look
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: at the dirt that I made the cup of dirt with,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: and now you'all gonna know the dirt, and then you're
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: gonna know the dirt on the dirt. He couldn't take
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: it here, honestly, one moler and nobody is giving you
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: took a two thousand, and you took your money and
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: you ran.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Might be alive. That's a hard thing to do to
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: stay stay hidden. That's like super difficult, especially if you
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: like strip clubs that much. That's hard to stay low key.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: But you probably like last like two weeks and just
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: like sweating in the corner, Oh copped immediately.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: The strip club might be his demise.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: It's hard to be in the run. It's like the
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: hardest in dig I.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Mean, I think it can be pretty easy, but you're
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: the strip club allure of it all, Like no, because
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: you need wings and booty.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: This kind of needs wrings booty, and uh yeah, you.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Can't do it.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: So the aftermath we're wrapping up here, Brex collapsed duh
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: surprised and it Shares became worthless in one of the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: biggest doock scandals in Canadian history and the biggest mining scandal.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Of all time.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: David Walsh, former president of BRIX, died of a brain
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: aneurysm in the Lamas in nineteen ninety eight.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're stressed out.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all these guys end up dying of stress because
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: they're just so, what does it.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Feel like to wonder every day if it's going to
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: fall apart?
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that's probably so stressful.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: To wake up every day and wonder if people are
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: going to catch you.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they want to kill you because you lost
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: them tons and tons of money. He lost their lives,
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: say murders. People care more about money than anything else. Yeah,
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: It's like Bernie Madeoff. People want to hang him. You know,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: He's just like, oh, that's right. He died. He died
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: in prison, all right. Yeah, but when he was alive,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: people were so angry at him. And all he did
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: was like scam people who knew they were being scammed,
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he like misinvested people's fortunes, misinvested by keeping it.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, they wanted his head. Financial crimes
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: get some of the harshest sentencings because it's pretty sad.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Everyone's so connected in the government, so they're like the
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: book at him, to the library at them.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because they want to draw a focus from the
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: financial crimes that are ongoing. It's like, you know, with
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Martha Stewart, I feel like that's why they put her
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: away it's like she can't do.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: That after that, Yeah, And they were like insider trading,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, we're not going to talk about
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the insider trading that happens constantly all the beginning of
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: January of twenty twe when COVID was found out by
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: the American government and then y'all sold off a bunch
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: of fucking stocks and bought stocks and then told us
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: about COVID.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Like, y'all, y'all don't want to know.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mess, but we're here. We're breathing it
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: in and living it. So Brex finally folded in two
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: thousand and two. John Felderhoff he sold over eighty million.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Dollars wow with the shares yeah.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Of his stock, just months before the reveal of the scam.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: He was the only b Rex executive ever prosecuted for
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: the fraud, but he was acquitted of insider trading in
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: two thousand and seven.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: How lucky, How lucky John Convenience.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, Canadian courts ruled that five point two
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: million dollars dispersed to an untold number of shareholders from
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: a class action lawsuit in Canada, and the US is
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: far less than the five billion investors had sought from
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: the bankrupt company and its key executives, and lawsuits filed
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: back as like as far as nineteen ninety seven, they've
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: been suing these people.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Five how much? How many billions? Five billion dollars?
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the money. Yeah.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: The true story was loosely adapted into the twenty sixteen
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: movie Gold, in which Matthew McConaughey plays a character based
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: on David Walsh.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen that. Have you seen that?
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: No, they haven't heard of that, neither have I.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's not very good. Maybe we didn't see it
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: because it's maybe it's a stinker.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: It might be I love Matthew McConaughey though, Oh yeah,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: he saw that one car that the Lincoln.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Lincoln gotta come out and trauma.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Now you know why this man looks like this? All right,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: all right, all right in a town car.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, we can go back to this guy and
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: we see that this guy is stressed out because they
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: were all stressed out like for me. And I'll ask you, Johnny,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: what ear moral of this story is? Obviously it's the truth,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: just not a story, but this kind of greed this
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: kind of theft. It's so complicated, and you know that
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: your life is gonna end if you're ever found out. Yeah,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: and it sucks the life out of you.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: These people look empty and sad.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: They're just full of gold. There's got a bunch of
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: metal in their in their bodies.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Is that your conclusion?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: What do you think about this scam? Do you think
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: they at least were they smart scammers?
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: I think no, because they the best scams. It's like
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: the best lie has almost of truth. And this this
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: uh mining operation there was no gold at all.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, but come on the dirt, the far away country,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Michael the gay with four wives trying to get five
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: jumping out a helicopter.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: I think they did some things.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: They did some things, but the smart thing to do
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: will be to find an actual claim that has something
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: and extrapolate that inflated like hawk to a coin or
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: some shit like that. You know, you just you blow up.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: How much do you own have hawk to a coin?
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I don't, thankfully zero. Gosh, that's such. That's one of
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: the greatest scams of all time. I feel like in
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: terms of like just sheer brilliance to dummy ratio, I
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: mean you.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Gotta capitalize if you got a moment, and you know
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of people they want a moment. Yeah, and
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: so she got her moment, and she she she got
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: her moment.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: But she she she's literally committing a crime, though it's
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: actually a little.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Cross her fault. She didn't know.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's she said. She's a pat scene.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah she is. I hope that she doesn't get in
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: trouble because.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: I think it's I don't know.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I think she was just like, oh, I'm an influencer
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: now I signed the deal on the line.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think she she knew. They'll never know, will
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: never know, We will never know.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I kind of hope that she didn't know and
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: that she's an evil genius.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Cool, she's just playing us all funny, All right, Johnny.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I always ask at the end of this podcast, where
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: can I find you?
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: What do you want people to watch? Where do you
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: want people to follow you online? Where do you want
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: people to find you?
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll be in Borneo for a couple of weeks.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: I'm working on this gold mine. You can find me.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: I am online. I have a website that I sell
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: tickets to shows on. It's Johnny Pemberton. Dot dog that's
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: actually what it is. Because someone stole my web address
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: when it lapsed, and I'm not paying them the money
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: they want to get it back. They're holding it ransom.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: So I'm dot dog is better than dot com.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: So dog is cool. I didn't know there was a dog.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: But you could die.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: You can get dot cat, you can get dot anything.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: Three layers. Yeah, dot dot dog. So that's my website. Otherwise,
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm just like you can watch me on Fallout.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Fallout and have a movie coming out in March called Mermaid.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: We have a bunch of dates for the premiere. It's
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: a movie about a mermaid. I Find a Mermaid, You
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Find a Mermaid. Yeah, it's like a creature mermaid. It's
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: not like a pretty uh water cure.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: It looks like all like.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Like creature, like a scary creature. And it takes place
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: in Florida. Oh and there's lots of drugs and you
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: know things in Florida, criminals and all that kind of crap. Yeah,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: it's because it's Florida. It's Florida. It's a very Florida movie,
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: very much.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, Mermaid in March. I'll get into it.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Johnny's got some projects coming to fall out, y'all watch everything,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Watch it all right now, going dun to streaming on
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Fox so you can watch me there. You can watch
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: this scam. I got a television show on Hulu. You
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: can get my book wherever books are sold, or the
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: audio book if you want that too.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I'm going on a little mini tour with Live Nation.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: The pre sale code is Goddess for y'all, and I'll
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: be in Chicago in March.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: I'll be in Irving. I'll do the Punchline Theater in
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: graand Mercy in New York City and what's the last one, Oh,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: in the San Francisco Cops Theater.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: So pull up if you're in those cities, pull up,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: show your ass, don't embarrass me. Okay, congregation, I want
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: you guys to get out there and I want you
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: to stay.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Oh why is Cassanova and good? That's true club get
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: just wings. Dam Goddess.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Scam got his stars and it's hosted by me Lacy
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Our producer is.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Jessica sis Neros, and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle, stay
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: skamming