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New Sarge Edition Tested + The Recall Nobody's Talking About · Jeep Talk Show

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(upbeat music)
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All right, we're back
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and just to prove to you
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that Josh is back, here he is again.
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Now this is definitely
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not AI, I promise you.
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No, I'd be using AI of you if I could,
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because it's too much fun.
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I was gonna say I'd look
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a lot better if it was AI,
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trust me.
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Yeah, people would work,
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a little sweaty and stuff,
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trying to get rushed and get this done.
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People would know it was
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fake if I could get a word in.
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(laughing)
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He's definitely using AI.
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All right, so we're gonna be talking
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about a few headlines
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in the Jeep stuff you've heard before,
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but maybe a little bit different.
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It'll be a little different
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with Josh's responses here,
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but the new June's 12 for 12 drop,
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it's actually drop eight.
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We'll talk a little bit
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about the massive recall
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over one million
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wranglers and gladiators.
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And Josh, I always mess it up.
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And you have another,
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(beeping)
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(beeping)
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You know who you are.
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(laughing)
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So we're here to shame you.
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We're here to make you feel
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bad about your life choices.
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I think it's only a small percentage,
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otherwise we're doomed.
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All right, so let's get started on this.
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Well, first off,
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and I warned you I was gonna
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embarrass you a little bit,
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people are excited.
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A lot of them are past viewers and
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listeners to the show.
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They're really excited
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about you being back Josh.
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They miss you.
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Well, that's cool.
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Well, I'm glad some people stuck around.
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I figured once I left,
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everybody else was gonna leave too.
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Yeah.
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Well, honestly, that's always a fear
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when you make a change with the show.
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Now the show did
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really good after I left.
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You made a lot of improvements
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and we kind of joked
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around behind the scenes
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that it took me leaving
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for the Jeep talk show
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to get some wind in it.
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So I had to do something different.
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It was so much easier when you were here,
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you were doing all the
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talking and doing all the work,
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getting the stories and stuff.
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I could just sit here and be a
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(beep)
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which I love to do.
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But yeah, you remember Dusty Yell Dunn
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that second twisted back
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(beep)
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Oh, is he still around?
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He is still around.
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He was happy to hear that you're back.
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I think it was Mike on
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our Discord server today,
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made comment about,
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he was glad to see that you were back.
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So, and I told you that the last
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(beep)
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(beep)
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that you did,
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that a guy with a PhD
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at the end of his name
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on get this, the
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social media site LinkedIn,
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that's business type stuff, liked,
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and he actually, I
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think he shared that post,
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that clip that I made of
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you doing the anti-duck rat.
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And he says, finally, somebody says it.
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So, I mean, if you can
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stand out on a professional site
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with a
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(beep)
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I'm not gonna try.
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I think it's great.
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Anyway, let's get busy
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because I know people
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want to get that new segment
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that you're doing.
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All right, so let's start
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with something nice and easy
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and not things that catch
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on fire, or at least not yet.
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June's 12th for 12th is drop eight.
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It is the Sarge edition.
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It was revealed on June 12th.
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It's a Jeep drop, or I'd rather Jeep drop
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the military inspired
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2026 Jeep Rengar Sarge
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and Gladiator variant
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with olive drab green paint,
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41 insignia, or the
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little hash or quote mark,
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41 insignia, tactical styling,
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and a heritage nods to
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the World War II era Jeeps.
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Limited quantities, arriving late summer,
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strong action star military vibe.
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Action star!
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So that means if it's
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a Schwarzenegger thing,
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it must come with a 50 cal
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Desert Eagle in the glove box.
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Yeah, because it still
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has a chrome grill surround.
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I don't know.
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So you don't like chrome.
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We've long since pointed out
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that Jeep is no
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stranger to special editions.
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They love the special editions.
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I love the special editions.
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I don't know that I would buy one,
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but like the Laura Croft Tomb Raider one.
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That was neat.
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There's been a couple
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that have stood out, granted.
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There's been a couple
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of flops too, absolutely.
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So this I would think
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kind of goes somewhere
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maybe in the middle to middle high.
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There's a couple of things I think
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that they could have done better on this.
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Imaging, I love the white star.
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I love the color.
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I love the military-esque wheels as well
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that also match the body color paint.
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The one thing that I'm not a big fan of
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is at least in some of the
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demo pictures that I've seen
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is it's got a white top in the back.
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So the back quarter of the top is white.
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That haulers back to like the old YJ era.
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I'm thinking of some of the old YJs
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that had tops and stuff.
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And it's like, okay,
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there's some heritage there
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in the sense that they came
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from the factory that way,
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or it was an option, whatever.
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We saw them out on the road.
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There was a thing.
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It doesn't work here.
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I think it should have
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been black if nothing else,
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body color as well.
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Well, I mean, it's military inspired.
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Is there a military
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vehicle gonna be out there
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with something that's
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really easy to target,
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like a white top?
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Right, yeah, yeah.
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I like to see the Gladiator
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version of this, honestly.
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I think that that would
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be a little bit more on par
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with what they were trying to shoot for.
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I would have liked to have seen
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a little bit more ruggedness.
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Yes, I like the stencil
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styling paint aesthetics on it.
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I think there could have been some
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additional accoutrements.
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I would love to have
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seen like a roof rack
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or maybe even some jugs on the side or
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something like that,
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maybe some A-pillar
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lighting, some auxiliary lighting,
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some stuff to make it
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look a little bit more,
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not just like a plain
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Jeep with a color job.
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Yeah, well, this reminds me of the
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Jurassic Park thing.
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There's people out there
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that just love taking the Jeeps
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and Jurassic parking it up.
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And I always have a
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problem with the round headlights
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on a Jurassic Park Jeep,
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because that's not what they was.
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That was a YJ that they had in the movie.
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But the Jurassic Park
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theme that came out from Jeep,
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they actually came out
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with a decal package.
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So it wasn't even a
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Jeep, it was a decal package.
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It was like 500 bucks.
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So you can-
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And this is akin to that so much.
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I mean, literally, what
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do you get out of this
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that you couldn't get on a Rubicon trim?
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I mean, honestly, I
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think the Rubicon trim
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would probably get
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you a little bit better
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of a Jeep than this.
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Anyways, you get a
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limited edition paint job.
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Okay, you get some maybe
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the limited edition wheels
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or something like that.
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I really don't see anything.
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Ooh, wow, I gotta go out and get this.
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This is limited time.
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Only on these models can
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you get this type of thing.
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And outside of a paint
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job, I'm not seeing it.
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To me, this is a cop-out for
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Jeep sort of, I don't know,
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not really hitting
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the ball out of the park
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when it comes to like the Easter Jeep
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Safari concept vehicles
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that have really, really been
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showstoppers in years past.
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They've just sort of gotten lazy
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and it's showing here in the 12 for 12.
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Yeah, I think, but I'll still maintain
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that it's nice that Jeep is giving the
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Jeep owners attention.
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That has been missing back whenever we
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had a former president
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of Stellantis that was
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going the luxury vehicle route.
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And I do appreciate the normal,
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I don't say extra, I don't
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know what I'm trying to say,
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not participation, the looking at
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actually doing things
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for the Jeep owners and
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coming back to the Jeep people
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that buy Jeeps.
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And I think that, I
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mean, even the decal package
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I was talking about is still something
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that Jeep owners like and
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want and isn't $60,000 to get it.
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It was 500 bucks for a decal package.
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So it's nice that they're
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giving us that attention
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like they used to.
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Well, and the Jeep performance parts,
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I would say that entire
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line is really hitting the nail
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on the head under that regard.
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They paid attention to
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what Jeep owners want,
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what the enthusiasts want,
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what people are using their Jeeps for.
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They said, okay, to keep your warranty
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and to give you what you want
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without us having to
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completely retool our factories,
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here you go.
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Here's a whole line of
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quote unquote aftermarket parts
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that can get you where you need to go
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as far as your build goes,
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get you the capability
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and the look that you want,
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not void your warranty and
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still be able to go out and play.
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Well, and thanks to Chris,
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our guest acquisition person,
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and he living there in the Michigan area
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and around a lot of the Jeep people,
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I've found out a lot more information
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about Jeep performance parts.
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And what a group.
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I mean, I'm really impressed with them.
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And also too, I now
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know at least three people
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that their business
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is associated with GPP.
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So you can actually order their stuff
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when you buy your Jeep.
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Okay, here's what I need you to do, Tony,
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right here and right now,
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you need to put a pin in this,
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you got some homework to do,
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you need to get in
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touch with these people
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and find out if one of their mad
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scientists over there
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has an inline six in the closet that
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they're tweaking with
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and doing some GPP funky stuff with.
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Now, are you talking
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about a 4.0 or the hurricane?
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Hey, I'd settle for either.
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I just wanna know
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what's cooking under the--
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You know, they're putting the hurricanes
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in the grand wagon ears.
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Well, I know that's an
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twin turbo version of it
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in the grand wagon ear to get you that,
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I think it was a 505
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horsepower or something like that
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and around 500 pound feet of torque.
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I mean, yeah, it's impressive numbers.
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Don't get me wrong.
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That's why I'm like, I'm
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really not saying anything bad
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about the new generation of inline six.
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I've definitely got a soft spot for the
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venerable four liter
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but this inline six and
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what they've been doing with it
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so far is relatively impressive.
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I wanna see what else they're cooking.
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What do they got going
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on with that inline six
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as far as some other performance tuning
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and some other things
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perhaps we might see
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a 700 horsepower inline six.
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I'm just not out of the question.
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I mean, I'm sure that somebody out there
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has got something to cook
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in that might get those kind
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of numbers out of the new--
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What they need to do is
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they need to get the engineers
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busy working on the hurricane engine
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to make it sound just like a 392.
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Because if you got the high
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horsepower and performance
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and the sound, nobody's gonna care.
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Nobody's gonna pop the
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hood and show them that 392.
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I'm kind of glad you brought up the 392
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because in the news
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recently, not exactly Jeep related
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but GM has announced
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that they're gonna retire
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the 5.3 liter V8, their
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venerable engine that they've had
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as far as their small block big performer
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and has worked and has got really good
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reputation and stuff.
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So it's like this end of a V8 era.
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And I'm thinking, okay, well,
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Mopar has been playing around
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with the end of the V8s for a while.
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We've heard that Dodge is
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like canceling their V8 program.
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Maybe it's coming back, maybe it's not,
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who knows, whatever.
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But I think the 392 is
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gonna start increasing in value
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here in the upcoming years as
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we see more and more automakers
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ditching the V8
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platforms across the board
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and going for more
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inline six and hybrid options.
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Did you know that the
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Ford Bronco Raptor version,
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would you expect that to have a V8 in it?
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Because I was surprised
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to find out it's a V6.
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Well, they only have so
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much room in those things.
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I mean, they're not exactly a--
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I don't talk to me about the
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(beep)
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way it won't fit type thing.
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Men will make it fit.
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I'm not gonna pick from a
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392 into a Wrangler, so.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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There's room, get on it and shove it in.
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That's right.
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Grab that butter,
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it's right there by the,
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good Lord, I'm having a problem.
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What is it used to say?
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Tony, are you having a stroke?
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The bedside table, it's
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right there next to the lamp
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on the bedside table.
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On the nightstand, yeah.
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Nightstand, thank you.
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All right, so let's move
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on to the massive recall.
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So I think everybody knows,
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especially those that
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have put out the fire,
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the massive recall issued
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over one million Wranglers
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and Gladiators, Stellantis
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announced a fire risk recall,
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affecting 1.077 million
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2021 through 2025 models.
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Owners urged to park
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outside or at your ex's house.
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Unless your kids are there.
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I just thought about that.
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So now I think the thing here is,
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Jeep owners are used to fire recalls.
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I just don't think
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they're used to the fire recalls
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on the Wranglers and the Gladiators.
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If it was a Wrangler 4xe, sure.
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Or a Grand Cherokee, sure.
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But unfortunately, no, this
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is affecting the Gladiators
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and the Wranglers, and
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this is the nasty one.
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And we talked about
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this the last time I was on
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and how dangerous this really is.
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And how if you do own
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one of the Wranglers
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or Gladiator within this year range,
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please do not park it in
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the garage or in your carport
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or right up next to the house.
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I know you wanna keep it safe.
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You wanna keep it out of
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the weather and all that,
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but man, it just ain't worth
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it until you get this fixed.
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Yeah, and this reminds
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you that this is something
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that happened on the line.
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It's the robots that were
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putting things together.
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Somebody didn't set something up right.
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You get about shoving it in.
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Yeah, I know, they put
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that terminal into the block
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a little too hard.
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They need to add a robot
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there that could spit on it
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before they're shoving it in there.
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I'm just repeating what you said.
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Please pass that.
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But yeah, no, exactly.
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As they're building the wire harness,
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different plug ends and whatnot,
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get all the wires terminated
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and shoved into their homes
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into that plug.
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And something happened
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in one of those wires
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and it created an
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intermittent connection.
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It created some kind of a short,
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created something to where
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it's gonna cause some heat
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and it's gonna cause some fire
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and it's gonna cause some danger.
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You don't want this
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to happen to your rig,
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especially if it's inside the house.
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You know, I just realized that.
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Why the hell isn't this fused?
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If it was fused?
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Well, think about it.
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I mean, all of the, I'm
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kind of dating myself here,
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going back to the OBD2
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program, the five volt program,
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you've got constant
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voltage going through all of this
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entire sensor network, okay?
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So none of it's fused, essentially.
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You've got a fuse line going into,
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main line going into the ECU.
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But as far as the actual
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communication between everything,
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all the CAN bus system is the same thing.
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These are running on
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that kind of a system.
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It's just multiplex
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signals going through wires.
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It's hardly any of it's fused.
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It's all frequencies and voltages.
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Yeah, well, I'm still
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anxious to find out.
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I wanna see
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something, some of the damage.
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I wanna see somebody finding something.
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I wanna know what it is.
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We've discussed, we disagreed on it.
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I think it'll be a
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visual inspection primary
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and then a repair of some sort secondary
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so that they can speed up
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the process and save money.
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But we're not there yet.
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I wanna see the smoking gun too.
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I wanna find out what
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exactly is the problem.
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Okay, we know that
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essentially what's causing the fires,
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but why is this exactly happening?
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Is it terminal 16 on
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this plug, on this harness?
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Who knows?
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But eventually I think
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we'll get those answers.
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In the meantime, all we
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can do is put the word out
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and have you guys tell your friends--
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Yeah, that's the most important thing
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is make sure people are aware of it.
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Public service announcement.
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We're doing our part, look at us.
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And if this is new to you
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or this is just a reminder,
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just go over to Jeep.
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You can put in your VIN number
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and see if yours is on the recall list.
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They have not started
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accepting Jeeps for repair yet.
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I did check on that.
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I don't think that they've
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quite got things figured out
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as far as what they're going to do yet.
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Oh no, I don't think so either.
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Cause this is June 9th
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when the thing came out.
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Right, right.
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So I think this is one
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of those things where,
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cause I think they're
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having the same discussion
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that you and I were last week.
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And that was that, how
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far do we go with this?
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They've got probably board
16:52
executives that are saying,
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let's just do the visual inspection.
16:55
They probably got
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engineers that are saying,
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no, we need to tear this apart.
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So there's probably two different teams
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that are going at this and
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they're going to have to figure
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out what's the best way,
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what's the most cost effective way?
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What's the most efficient
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way to handle this problem
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and not only take
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care of the Jeep owners,
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but also make sure that we
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don't lose our shorts in this.
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Well, you don't want
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anybody to lose their life.
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You don't want anybody,
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their house or lean to
17:19
or whatever the Jeep's
17:20
parked in to catch on fire
17:22
and burn down.
17:23
But at the same time, you
17:24
don't want to get too aggressive
17:26
in fixing the issue
17:27
because you may not fix it.
17:29
You really have to
17:30
understand the problem fully
17:32
and make sure that the
17:33
first time that you do it,
17:35
it's fixed, it's not going to happen.
17:37
So, and you know that
17:39
just because of this,
17:40
any fire that occurs in
17:43
a Wrangler or Gladiator
17:45
for the next 10 years is going to be,
17:48
go back to this recall that
17:50
they're going to have to fight.
17:51
So.
17:52
Well, and look, that's
17:53
just a word of caution to then
17:55
people buying used Jeeps moving forward
17:58
is you really got to do
18:00
those VIN checks at that point
18:01
to make sure that this Jeep
18:03
has it had all of its recalls
18:05
taken care of because you
18:06
don't want to be the guy
18:07
who buys that one Jeep
18:09
that the dude never heard
18:10
the Jeep talk show or
18:11
never got the recall notice
18:12
cause he's moving around too much.
18:13
And lo and behold, you buy the one Jeep
18:16
that didn't get fixed
18:17
and it burns down in your garage.
18:19
So let's not do that.
18:20
I can see this in three or four years,
18:22
somebody's buying a used Jeep
18:24
and they're using this tactic
18:26
to lower the price.
18:28
Oh, nope, checking your VIN.
18:29
Yeah, I don't see that.
18:30
It's never been taken care of.
18:31
This is a fire risk.
18:33
That's good for another $5,000 off.
18:34
Lower the price about 10K.
18:36
Yeah.
18:37
And it's only 5,000
18:39
cause this thing is
18:39
worthless if it burns.
18:41
So I'm taking the risk here.
18:42
Yeah, really.
18:43
I'm doing you a favor.
18:44
That's right, exactly.
18:47
All right, Josh, what
18:48
do you got for us tonight
18:49
for your
18:50
(beep)
18:50
(upbeat music)
18:58
Well, in tonight's installment of
19:00
(beep)
19:00
you, you
19:01
(beep)
19:02
look, this is all about
19:04
driving technique, okay?
19:05
I'm not talking about
19:06
off the road, on the trail,
19:08
which line you take
19:09
or anything like that.
19:10
And honestly, it doesn't even matter
19:12
if you own a Jeep or not,
19:13
because honestly, in the recent past,
19:16
Jeepers have been guilty of this.
19:19
And what I'm talking about is
19:20
something that I alluded to,
19:21
I think briefly a couple
19:23
of weeks ago or whatnot.
19:24
And that is the merging on the freeway.
19:26
And
19:26
(beep)
19:26
almighty, does it get under my skin
19:28
is when somebody is trying
19:30
to merge onto the freeway
19:31
at like 35, 40 miles an hour.
19:32
Look, I don't know
19:33
what you do in your state,
19:35
but around here, we do
19:36
about 65, 75 miles an hour
19:38
on the highway.
19:40
On the interstate, we're
19:41
doing about 75, 85 miles an hour
19:43
or better, especially
19:44
when you get out past the,
19:45
you know, the cities and whatnot,
19:46
get out in the
19:47
countryside, people are doing 90,
19:48
100 miles an hour on the freeway.
19:50
That's just how we roll out here.
19:52
I don't care if you're visiting,
19:54
I don't care where you're from.
19:55
Look at the flow of traffic.
19:57
Use your two eyes, use two
19:59
brain cells to rub together
20:00
and put together at least a
20:01
half ounce of common sense
20:02
and realize that, oh,
20:04
(beep)
20:04
I'm coming up to a whole
20:05
bunch of fast moving traffic.
20:07
Maybe I need to push the skinny pedal
20:08
just a little bit more
20:09
because, oh, God forbid,
20:12
somebody has to slow down for me.
20:14
No, move your
20:16
(beep)
20:16
I don't care if you own a Jeep.
20:19
I don't care if you're running on three
20:21
cylinders out of six.
20:22
I don't care.
20:23
Move the thing off to the side,
20:25
clap it out, just get the
20:26
(beep)
20:27
out of the way.
20:28
Move, you
20:29
(beep)
20:30
trying to merge onto the
20:32
freeway at 35 miles an hour.
20:34
I don't care if you're Asian, I don't
20:36
care if you're white,
20:37
I don't care what color you are,
20:38
what vehicle you're running,
20:39
you need to follow the flow of traffic.
20:42
And this applies on arterial roads
20:44
or in the neighborhoods.
20:46
I don't give a
20:46
(beep)
20:47
you're driving along
20:49
and the flow of traffic,
20:50
everybody's doing 45,
20:51
I don't care if the
20:51
speed limits posted 35,
20:52
everybody's doing 45, do 45.
20:55
Don't sit there and do 27 miles an hour
20:57
and wonder why
20:57
everybody's honking at you.
20:59
This is just insane.
21:00
It probably happens in
21:01
your neighborhood too.
21:03
If this is happening,
21:04
there needs to be more shaming,
21:05
there needs to be more honking,
21:06
there needs to be more train horns,
21:08
honestly, because these
21:09
people need to be woken the F up
21:11
because nothing is going
21:13
to crack their brain open
21:15
like the cracking sound of about 175 PSI
21:19
being blasted through
21:20
a four foot train horn
21:21
and 190 decibels slapping
21:23
upside the back of their dome,
21:24
like, "Oh,
21:25
(beep)
21:25
"what am I doing?
21:26
"Crap, I'm going to
21:27
get run over by a train."
21:28
And they're either
21:29
going to move out the way
21:30
and let traffic freely flow
21:32
or they're going to speed up
21:34
or they're going to have a coronary
21:35
and things are going to
21:35
take care of themselves.
21:36
One or the other, either way,
21:38
(beep)
21:39
you, you
21:39
(beep)
21:40
start accelerating.
21:42
I listened to the Jeep
21:43
talk show on my long drives
21:45
to off-road
21:46
destinations, to and from work,
21:48
makes the trip go by
21:49
quicker and makes me laugh.
21:50
Listen or watch on YouTube, Spotify.
21:53
You know, this reminds me,
21:54
you remember me talking about
21:56
my 83 Chevy four-wheel drive.
21:59
Oh, yeah.
22:00
Yeah, I see a couple
22:01
of the old body style,
22:02
original body style Chevy's.
22:03
Yeah, square body, absolutely.
22:04
Yeah, man.
22:05
So I was getting on I-10,
22:09
and this is shortly after I got the
22:10
37-inch tires on there
22:12
and the four-inch lift,
22:14
and it was leaf
22:15
spring lifts on that thing.
22:17
And I'm on the
22:18
acceleration lane, getting on I-10,
22:22
and the woman in front
22:24
of me in a car stops.
22:28
Oh, for fuck's sake.
22:29
I'm watching the
22:30
traffic, because like you say,
22:32
you need to get at the
22:33
speed of the traffic.
22:35
So I'm watching, I'm
22:36
looking at my side, watching-
22:37
You're in the rear view mirror,
22:37
yeah, you're looking on the side mirror.
22:39
I'm looking at the side to see,
22:40
making sure where I'm going to merge in.
22:42
I glance ahead of me,
22:44
and there is a stopped vehicle.
22:47
As you're getting into the accelerator.
22:49
1983 braking system.
22:52
I'm sure it wasn't-
22:53
Drums, a lot. I'm sure it wasn't drums
22:55
on the front, but it was
22:55
definitely drums on the back.
22:58
(car whooshing)
22:58
With full-size pickup, it was a short
23:00
wheelbase, thank God,
23:01
and those 37-inch tires,
23:03
I was able to stop it
23:05
before running into her.
23:07
I was so pissed off.
23:10
Oh, yeah.
23:11
Oh, no, I can imagine, because somebody-
23:13
She did not stop. Red light fuel sign
23:14
is a stop sign, and it's like,
23:16
what are you doing, you broad?
23:17
Come on, move!
23:19
Well, she was concerned
23:20
because she was scared.
23:21
She was timid because
23:23
she didn't want to get
23:24
in front of somebody and get hit.
23:26
She didn't get this.
23:27
I'm sure she didn't want to get hit
23:29
by merging incorrectly,
23:31
and she almost got hit
23:32
because she couldn't
23:33
(beep)
23:34
think.
23:34
Yeah, no, there's too
23:36
many people out there
23:37
that absolutely
23:38
should not be on the road.
23:39
Honestly, I think rush hour is caused
23:41
by these kinds of people.
23:42
They don't know how to
23:45
move through traffic.
23:46
They don't know how to merge.
23:47
They don't know how to change lanes.
23:50
There's all kinds of people out there
23:51
that just absolutely do
23:53
not know how to drive.
23:54
And I said it years ago
23:56
when they started adopting
23:57
all this driver-assistant technology,
23:59
it's just making things worse, honestly.
24:01
Oh, yeah, why is it doing this?
24:02
Why is it keeping me from changing lanes?
24:07
(laughs)
24:07
No, when it goes full self-driving,
24:09
the state needs to identify
24:12
those people that can't drive
24:14
and mandate full self-driving
24:16
unsupervised for them
24:18
if they wanna go someplace.
24:19
I heard this in the
24:20
news here just this week.
24:21
The people are using doll heads
24:23
to confuse the Tesla self-driving.
24:26
I saw something about that.
24:28
It has to see somebody eyes
24:30
open and paying attention.
24:31
And so they just put
24:32
this little doll head
24:32
in front of the camera that's looking
24:33
that direction at you.
24:35
And problem solved, they're
24:37
over there in the passenger sheet
24:39
playing Jenga for all,
24:40
whatever they're doing.
24:42
But nonetheless, there's
24:45
ways to get around stuff, but-
24:48
Yeah, there always will be.
24:49
That's hilarious.
24:50
I saw that on one of
24:52
the social media things,
24:53
and I started making all
24:54
these little head jokes,
24:55
like everybody likes
24:56
getting a little head.
24:57
And I didn't look at the story.
24:59
Oh, that's great.
25:00
I didn't look at the story.
25:02
I was deep inside my own twisted mind.
25:05
(laughs)
25:08
From the mind of Nicky G.
25:12
(crowd cheers)
25:13
Hey, this is Nicky G,
25:14
and I'm here in
25:15
Stonecliff, West Virginia,
25:17
on the banks of the New River,
25:19
which happens to be
25:20
one of the oldest rivers.
25:22
Yeah, did I mention I'm in West Virginia,
25:25
where they invented the toothbrush?
25:28
Because if they
25:29
invented it in any other place,
25:30
it would be called the teethbrush.
25:32
(toy gun fires)
25:35
What does a West Virginia divorce
25:39
and a tornado have in common?
25:42
No matter which one happens,
25:43
someone's losing a trailer.
25:45
(toy gun plays)
25:48
All right, boys and
25:48
girls, I'll catch you later,
25:49
and you have a good one, bye.
25:52
(upbeat music)
25:53
All right, so I just
25:55
wanna mention something here
25:56
real quick.
25:57
If you're one of the
25:58
people that used to watch Josh,
26:01
and I go back and forth,
26:02
we definitely have good
26:03
chemistry, and it's fun.
26:05
It's just fun us talking.
26:07
We have a good time
26:08
just talking to each other,
26:09
because Josh is always surprised
26:11
with some of the
26:12
(beep)
26:12
I come up with.
26:13
You see it in his face.
26:16
Josh does such a
26:17
wonderful job here as a co-host,
26:20
but I wanna mention something to you.
26:22
I hate doing this to you,
26:24
because I don't like
26:24
making the audience feel bad.
26:26
Josh left the show because
26:29
he couldn't afford to live.
26:32
He had to find another job,
26:34
and if you cheap
26:35
(beep)
26:37
would actually through,
26:39
what is it, Patreon?
26:43
Patreon, I was like, what's the money?
26:46
Yeah, through Patreon.
26:49
I hear pretty soon,
26:50
YouTube is going to be,
26:52
able to watch the commercials on YouTube,
26:56
and watching those commercials.
26:58
Our original channel.
26:59
We don't need, Josh is cheap.
27:02
We don't need a lot of
27:03
money to have Josh here.
27:05
Anybody wanna have a miser contest?
27:08
Definitely chime in.
27:09
But I'm just saying, you
27:11
guys love Josh so much.
27:12
I mean, I know you
27:13
love the Jeep Talk Show,
27:14
but you especially love it.
27:15
When Josh is here, if you cheap
27:17
(beep)
27:19
a Patreon doesn't cost that much.
27:23
Go over there,
27:24
jeeptalkshow.com slash contact,
27:26
and find out how to stop being a cheap
27:29
(beep)
27:30
Oh yeah.
27:31
I'm gonna continue to,
27:32
I'm gonna continue doing the show.
27:34
It's just fun.
27:36
But if you, I mean,
27:39
we always trying to make the show better.
27:41
Here's where you can help make it better.
27:44
Yeah, and imagine our
27:46
long time dream coming true
27:48
of being able to send the likes of me
27:50
out to all the different shows,
27:52
out to like Easter Jeep Safari,
27:54
out to Moab for an event,
27:57
out to what some of the big iconic
28:00
wheeling destinations
28:01
around the United States,
28:02
maybe even around the world,
28:03
and doing interviews and getting
28:06
firsthand information
28:07
from the
28:07
manufacturers and from the people
28:09
who are using the end
28:11
users of the products
28:11
and stuff like that,
28:12
and bring this information to you
28:14
from outside of our studios.
28:16
We can talk about stuff all day long.
28:19
And believe me, Tony and I like to talk,
28:21
but it's different when we
28:22
can bring the experience to you.
28:24
And that's the goal
28:26
that we've always been trying to reach.
28:28
And the thing I just thought about this,
28:29
because we're always
28:30
thinking about marketing things,
28:32
but definitely not
28:33
appropriate marketing things,
28:34
but we still come up with stuff.
28:36
So I'm thinking this Tesla deal,
28:38
where they're making the computer think
28:41
that you're in front of the camera,
28:43
we could get a bag of those heads,
28:46
meet Josh and get a little head.
28:48
You could just hand them out.
28:49
Oh, get a little head from Josh.
28:53
It's worth five bucks, right?
28:55
You suck.
28:58
(laughing) Look, okay, so,
29:01
(laughing)
29:01
as a farewell gift, parting
29:03
gift from my former employer
29:06
back in 2021,
29:08
COVID forced me to change
29:09
careers and stuff like that.
29:11
Some of my beautiful
29:12
coworkers slapped this on my car
29:14
without me knowing it.
29:15
Of course I didn't find
29:15
it until I got home, but.
29:18
(laughing)
29:19
I'm not gay, but $20, $6, $20.
29:21
We had a bumper sticker that says,
29:22
"I'm not gay, but $20 is $20."
29:25
So true.
29:26
Got a little full of
29:26
cash and stuff like that.
29:28
So get a little head
29:29
from Josh, I suppose.
29:30
Why not?
29:31
All right, well, I'm sorry
29:32
to make you guys feel bad,
29:33
but sometimes you
29:33
just gotta say the thing.
29:35
I mean, it's not like we're
29:38
trying to get Joe Rogan money.
29:40
That would be nice, but no,
29:43
I mean, Tony and I never expected that.
29:45
And I'll often think about this,
29:46
and I know we've
29:47
talked about this before.
29:48
You come up with some
29:49
really good commercial stuff
29:51
and with AI capabilities that I have now,
29:54
I could see you sitting there,
29:56
not doing a damn thing all day,
29:58
except working on promos
30:00
and talking to people about the show.
30:02
All the production stuff.
30:03
You know, I loved all
30:04
the production stuff
30:05
when we were deep in this and whatnot,
30:07
doing all the saving.
30:07
When you had the time to do it
30:09
because you were only working one job.
30:10
Exactly, yeah.
30:12
It was great, but no,
30:14
I do miss grinding here in the studio
30:17
and churning out some really good content
30:21
and just hyping up the show
30:22
and adding all that stuff.
30:24
It's just fun.
30:24
That's just a part, it really is fun.
30:27
Yeah, and we've done very well.
30:29
I mean, people really
30:31
know who we are now.
30:32
Yeah, all the people behind the work,
30:34
all the girls at the Chick Chat,
30:35
I mean, Chris behind the scenes as well,
30:37
doing his stuff,
30:37
and I mean, plus what he's
30:39
doing in front of the camera
30:40
as well, just amazing work from him.
30:43
So I'm kind of living vicariously
30:45
through Chris a little bit as well,
30:46
because he's out there pressing the flesh
30:49
and going to these events and stuff,
30:50
and I think that's just cool as hell.
30:52
Yeah, yep, no, we could always do more.
30:54
That's the way money is,
30:55
but even if we don't get
30:56
any money from you guys,
30:58
we'll still work it out
30:58
because we enjoy doing the show.
31:01
It's not gonna go away.
31:04
We just try to change
31:05
it to make it better,
31:06
and hopefully you guys
31:07
notice that and appreciate it,
31:09
if you're a cheap
31:10
(beep)
31:10
and you won't send any
31:11
money, but I digress.
31:13
All right, so have you been keeping up
31:16
with the 2026 Cherokee momentum?
31:20
I mean, I almost kind
31:21
of have to not laugh
31:23
when I hear about the
31:24
momentum of a Cherokee,
31:25
especially a hybrid.
31:26
I was gonna say,
31:28
as far as like
31:28
performance numbers and stuff,
31:29
no, I actually haven't
31:30
seen any of the raw data yet,
31:32
but as far as the styling and stuff goes,
31:34
I just, look, when Jeep made the move
31:39
when Stellantis picked up
31:40
Jeep or when it was sold,
31:42
whenever Jeep went to Italian designers,
31:45
things just went a direction
31:47
that I never have really
31:50
been fond of personally.
31:53
And I've mentioned they
31:54
look like tennis shoes.
31:55
I've mentioned they look like a Kia.
31:57
There's a lot of similarities
31:59
between other automotive designers.
32:02
It's like, you all went to
32:03
the same school, didn't you?
32:05
You all went to the same classroom.
32:06
You all had the same teacher.
32:07
You all got the same
32:08
influences, the same inspirations.
32:11
There's no originality.
32:13
It's just like, I don't know.
32:15
I'm not, it just
32:16
seems to be a lot of meh.
32:19
Well, we're seeing a lot of copying
32:20
and out of Hollywood as well.
32:22
Nobody makes an original movie.
32:24
Nothing's original anymore.
32:25
Everything's a copy of something else.
32:27
It's like, and we're seeing this
32:28
in the automotive world too.
32:29
So it's like, I'm waiting
32:30
for something original and new,
32:32
and it's gonna be at the showstopper.
32:35
Holy crap, did you
32:36
see what Jeep just did?
32:38
That's what I'm waiting for.
32:39
Come on, Jeep.
32:40
Well, like the original
32:42
Willys, that was original
32:44
and it really stood out.
32:46
I mean, I think a lot of it had to do
32:47
with its performance
32:48
and helping our soldiers in World War II.
32:51
But like when the XJ,
32:53
the Cherokee XJ came out,
32:54
there was so many
32:55
companies that copied that.
32:57
I mean, Ford Explorer, for example.
32:59
So they did something that,
33:01
like you say, was different.
33:04
And I mean, close to 3 million Jeep
33:08
Cherokees were sold.
33:09
So it's a risk.
33:11
And that's the reason
33:11
why we're seeing copies,
33:13
because nobody wants
33:14
to risk losing money.
33:16
Yeah, and unfortunately,
33:18
automakers are working on a relatively
33:20
thin margin as it is.
33:22
But from what I understand,
33:23
it's generally somewhere
33:23
between 3% and 5% at best.
33:27
And so it's all about
33:28
the volume and stuff.
33:29
When you're selling a
33:29
million units of this,
33:30
three million units of that,
33:32
obviously that 3% is billions of dollars.
33:37
But I digress, we get into the weeds
33:40
when we get into the
33:40
numbers of this sort of stuff.
33:42
But that's really what
33:44
it comes down to though,
33:45
is how many units can they sell
33:48
and what's it gonna
33:49
take to produce that unit
33:50
as far as the R&D behind it.
33:52
So if we can get into an age where,
33:57
and I think we're gonna
33:58
be starting there with AI
34:00
sort of on the forefront of this,
34:02
getting into the design aspect,
34:05
we're gonna start seeing some alien cars
34:08
coming out of here pretty soon.
34:09
So in the next three to five years,
34:11
I think we're actually gonna see the
34:12
fruits of the labor of AI
34:14
and its influence in the
34:15
automotive design world.
34:16
Yeah, and you know what?
34:17
I think some of the
34:18
executives are gonna be swayed by AI,
34:20
which this is sad,
34:22
because there's a lot of
34:23
really good designers at Jeep.
34:25
And I think that if they put
34:26
the buzzword or letters AI,
34:29
the executive is gonna perk up and say,
34:31
"Yeah, I think we should try that."
34:33
But if the engineer came
34:35
up with this wonderful idea,
34:36
because it's not a buzz
34:38
term, you know what I'm saying?
34:40
Let me ask you about this.
34:41
I don't think we've talked about this,
34:42
but even if we had, we
34:44
can talk about it again.
34:45
I have a theory.
34:47
I've mentioned this
34:48
several times on the show.
34:49
I'm a Tesla stockholder,
34:52
and I'm following Tesla closely
34:53
because I want a bunch
34:55
of money from the stock.
34:59
I suppose we made a
35:00
bunch of millionaires,
35:01
so I mean, or, you know, SpaceX.
35:03
SpaceX, yeah.
35:03
So the thing I think
35:06
all car manufacturers,
35:08
with the possible exception of some of
35:09
the high-end Ferrari,
35:11
those top specialty cars,
35:14
all automakers are going to have to have
35:17
full self-driving unsupervised.
35:21
All the vehicles, all the vehicles.
35:24
But I mean, how long do you wait?
35:28
I mean, if, because Tesla has
35:30
full self-driving unsupervised now.
35:33
Yeah, it's gotta be a slow roller
35:35
because each company's
35:36
gotta have its own system,
35:38
its own proprietary
35:39
software, cameras, et cetera,
35:41
but it all has to follow
35:42
NHTSA standards and inspections
35:45
and all that kind of stuff.
35:46
There's a much faster way.
35:48
They can buy or get the
35:51
technology from Tesla.
35:52
Tesla is more than
35:54
willing to sell this technology
35:57
so that the current automobiles,
35:59
now they would have to be drive-by wire,
36:02
basically fly-by wire,
36:04
brake system of the whole nine yards.
36:06
So some of that stuff may have to change
36:08
to accomplish this,
36:10
but I think that Jeep
36:12
is in terrible danger
36:14
and sort of the others,
36:15
but I'm really concerned about Jeep
36:16
because I like Jeeps.
36:17
You do not have to
36:18
have an electric vehicle
36:20
to have full self-driving unsupervised.
36:23
No, and Jeep was
36:24
toying around with concepts
36:27
back, I think around
36:29
2016, 2018 or something
36:33
with self-driving technology.
36:35
They had been working on a system.
36:38
So whether or not that
36:41
got further development
36:43
from back then, I don't know,
36:45
because I think something,
36:47
there was a few things in the news
36:49
where there was some MIT
36:50
company or something like that
36:52
that was trying to develop
36:53
a self-driving technology
36:55
and the car hit somebody
36:57
or something like that.
36:58
Or it was one of the first generation
37:00
of self-driving
37:01
vehicles from somebody else,
37:02
Toyota, Tesla, somebody
37:03
was trying the technology
37:06
and their prototype had
37:08
ran somebody into a wall
37:09
or something like that.
37:10
And so I think that
37:12
maybe Jeep had gotten scared
37:14
if that was the case and decided,
37:16
well, we're not gonna
37:17
throw a bunch of money
37:18
into the self-driving
37:18
technology quite yet.
37:20
We still have this program over here.
37:22
We still have the software.
37:23
We still have the systems
37:24
and everything like that,
37:25
but let's not do this yet
37:27
because there's a lot of
37:28
negativity in the news.
37:29
Let's put our money over
37:30
here into hybrid technology
37:32
and see where that goes.
37:34
And we'll just keep
37:34
this on the back burner.
37:36
But I think you're right.
37:37
So I'm gonna agree with you in one aspect
37:39
that they did their self-disservice
37:41
because had they
37:42
pursued that a lot further
37:45
and a lot more aggressively,
37:46
they could have set themselves way ahead.
37:49
And that car company that produced that,
37:53
have you seen what Jeep just did
37:55
with the self-driving thing?
37:56
And now your Wrangler can
37:57
drive up the mountain for you
37:59
or vice versa?
38:00
Oh, I've taken the wheel
38:01
when I'm going off-road.
38:02
But the 19 hours to Moab?
38:07
Right, I'm sleeping in the back.
38:09
(laughs) Having the vehicle, I
38:11
mean, that's wonderful.
38:12
I mean, and we save you
38:13
the cost of a tow rig.
38:15
Jeep's we're going reeling.
38:17
Yes, sir.
38:18
But the robotaxes, the
38:23
ones with no steering wheel,
38:24
no pedals, they are about to hit.
38:29
And perhaps that's a bad term.
38:33
They're about to...
38:34
You're right, because
38:35
it was Waymo or Waze-mo
38:37
or something like that.
38:38
They've got the, yeah,
38:39
they're starting to pop up here
38:40
in the PDX area.
38:42
So I mean, if they're in Portland,
38:44
then yeah, they'll be
38:45
in your town soon enough.
38:46
Oh yeah, I think there's
38:48
currently about 100 or so
38:50
robotaxes in a
38:50
parking lot here in Houston,
38:52
waiting for them to turn everything on.
38:55
Now there's a few robotaxes in Houston,
38:58
but they're getting ready to start
38:59
dumping these things.
39:00
They're gonna be making these robotaxes,
39:02
one every five seconds.
39:05
Well, here's what this is gonna do,
39:07
is it's gonna put all the taxi drivers,
39:10
it's going to put all of the
39:12
Ubers and the Lyft drivers,
39:14
all those guys pretty
39:16
much out of business.
39:17
Absolutely, because it's cheaper.
39:19
And what we're gonna see
39:20
next is a massive increase
39:23
to the grub hub and the
39:28
shopping kind of things,
39:31
where it's like, well, I
39:32
need a bottle of super glue
39:33
at 2 a.m.
39:35
And I can find an app
39:36
that will have a driver,
39:37
go get it for me and
39:38
bring it to my house.
39:40
We'll see a big
39:41
increase in that sort of thing.
39:42
But even then, that will be short lived,
39:45
because that will be a
39:45
bubble that will burst
39:46
and will be conquered by
39:48
artificial intelligence.
39:49
The robotaxes, I mean, not
39:51
the robotaxes, the robots.
39:52
The robots and drones
39:53
and things like that
39:54
will be doing it.
39:55
Well, I said, I don't
39:56
know who I was saying it to,
39:57
is you or somebody
39:58
else may be off the air,
39:59
but we are just years
40:01
away from Will Smith's movie,
40:04
"I, Robot."
40:05
There are companies now
40:07
that are mass producing
40:08
humanoid robots.
40:10
So that's a thing.
40:11
That's happening, that's going on.
40:14
As that becomes more normal,
40:17
we're gonna start seeing that implemented
40:19
in almost every
40:20
aspect of our daily lives.
40:21
Oh, absolutely.
40:22
And coming back to the whole,
40:24
the other manufacturers, including Jeep,
40:26
need to get full
40:26
self-driving unsupervised.
40:28
If you can take a robotaxy,
40:30
and it only cost you five bucks
40:33
to have this thing take you someplace,
40:36
and you get over your fear of the vehicle
40:39
having sole control,
40:41
people are gonna say,
40:43
"I need a Tesla so I can
40:46
use full self-driving."
40:49
And that means all the
40:50
other car manufacturers
40:52
are gonna be sucking high in
40:53
(beep)
40:53
and they're at least 10 years away
40:56
from where Tesla is and the technology.
40:58
They're gonna go out of business.
41:01
So-
41:01
I could see a massive,
41:03
massive automotive shift,
41:04
but I could see them going back down
41:07
to being like the big
41:08
three type of thing.
41:10
There's only gonna be a few
41:11
big players in the market,
41:13
and maybe some ancillary
41:14
people out here on the fringes
41:15
that are doing some things here and there
41:17
that are supplementing that
41:19
or are supporting that
41:21
in some way or fashion.
41:22
But yeah, it's interesting times.
41:25
We are-
41:26
I think Jeep needs to call,
41:28
and I'm not saying they haven't,
41:30
Jeep needs to call Tesla
41:32
and do whatever they need to do-
41:35
To get that technology.
41:36
To get that technology
41:38
and start putting it
41:39
into Jeeps immediately,
41:40
especially like the Grand Wagoneer.
41:42
I mean, you want a fancy luxury vehicle,
41:46
it needs to be self-driving.
41:48
I do not want Jeep to go out of business.
41:50
Retooling and systems integrations
41:53
is a very, very costly maneuver.
41:56
So whether or not-
41:56
But what's it cost to
41:57
not to have a company?
41:59
Well, true, but look at this.
42:02
How many times has Jeep been sold?
42:04
How many parent companies has Jeep had?
42:06
It's ridiculous at this point
42:08
because there's nobody
42:10
else in the automotive field
42:11
that has gone through the
42:12
rigmarole that Jeep has.
42:14
And so at this point,
42:16
it may come down to,
42:17
well, maybe it's time for
42:19
Jeep to be a standalone company
42:22
or something like that.
42:23
Jeep or Ram, we've
42:24
talked about this in the past.
42:25
Exactly, exactly.
42:27
Ram is on the cusp of doing it.
42:29
I think Jeep is as well.
42:32
We're gonna see some of
42:33
these ancillary companies
42:35
fade into the mist.
42:36
I think it's gonna happen
42:38
really big time over in Europe.
42:40
We're gonna see it here in
42:41
the US, I believe, first,
42:43
but it's gonna be at a lot
42:45
larger scale over in Europe.
42:46
But yeah, it's, what do you think, Tony?
42:50
Three years, five years?
42:52
It's gonna happen in less than 10.
42:53
Well, I think the problem that I have is,
42:55
I think it would be quicker.
42:56
But the thing I can't remember,
42:58
that I have a hard time dealing with
43:00
because I don't have billions of dollars.
43:02
If you have billions of dollars,
43:03
you can make a bad decision
43:05
and have that bad
43:07
decision go on for years,
43:09
depending on how many-
43:09
Yeah, look, how many kids Elon Musk has.
43:11
How you spend your money.
43:13
So I think that that's
43:14
probably what's gonna happen is
43:15
that we're gonna see declining sales.
43:17
People are gonna say it
43:18
doesn't have full self-driving.
43:21
Right now, people are scared of it.
43:23
My wife is scared of it.
43:24
She doesn't like the idea.
43:26
And I remind her, if
43:27
you could go back in time,
43:29
pluck somebody from
43:30
going across the country,
43:32
moving from the East
43:33
Coast to the West Coast,
43:34
back in like the 1700s.
43:36
And then whether we're on wagons,
43:38
being drawn by horses,
43:39
and you put them in a modern,
43:41
or even a car from 20 years ago.
43:44
It's a great ship to them.
43:45
I mean, come on.
43:45
And you're traveling at over
43:47
a hundred mile closure rate
43:49
and being less than five or six feet away
43:51
from the other vehicle.
43:53
That would scare the literal,
43:54
literally the
43:55
(beep)
43:55
out of those people.
43:57
So I think the fear of
43:58
the self-driving thing
43:59
is going to predominantly be a
44:02
generational thing as well.
44:03
Cause we come from the generation of
44:06
having all the control.
44:07
And as generations come that
44:11
are going to see self-driving
44:14
as this thing that's been out there,
44:15
since they can remember,
44:17
well, it's not gonna
44:18
be a big deal to them.
44:19
Or that they grew up with this technology
44:23
coming up as they have.
44:26
It's just as old as they are.
44:28
And so it's new
44:29
technology and they're new drivers.
44:31
And so, well, they
44:32
don't see the big deal.
44:33
So we'll figure it out.
44:36
It's very much gonna
44:37
be a generational thing.
44:38
So as we see younger
44:39
drivers coming into the market,
44:42
so to speak,
44:43
I think we're gonna see
44:44
a lot more of their money
44:46
going into the market as income to these,
44:52
you know, these self-driving taxi
44:55
companies and stuff.
44:56
It's going, they
44:57
don't want their licenses.
44:58
We've seen it since the millennials,
45:02
that they're in droves.
45:04
That was really surprised by this.
45:06
The freedom that you get
45:07
whenever you get your license.
45:08
It's just amazing.
45:09
And it's just not an interest to the
45:11
younger generations.
45:12
And I think a lot of that comes to,
45:13
well, there's all
45:14
these services out there
45:15
that can get me anywhere I need to go.
45:18
So why do I need to do that myself?
45:19
That's what's gonna
45:19
happen with the robotaxes.
45:21
First, it's going to be people saying,
45:23
we don't need two vehicles.
45:25
We can get by with one vehicle
45:27
and we'll call the
45:28
robotaxi depending on, you know,
45:30
how long you have to wait and
45:31
how much it costs and stuff.
45:32
But I think it's gonna be cheaper.
45:34
They do the lift or
45:38
the Uber all the time.
45:40
Yeah, and then it's gonna be,
45:42
why do I need a vehicle?
45:43
Why do I have to do oil changes?
45:45
Why do I have to do, it's like renting
45:46
instead of owning your house.
45:48
And then the government
45:48
will be able to control
45:49
all of our movements anywhere we go.
45:52
No freedom whatsoever.
45:54
You will go where you're told
45:55
and where the vehicle takes you.
45:56
Yeah, no, there's a
45:58
dystopian nature of this,
45:59
but I love the idea of just
46:01
being able to call a vehicle
46:03
and go someplace,
46:04
especially on those times
46:05
where you're working on the Jeep,
46:07
you're trying to get it going again,
46:08
trying to get that water pump changed
46:10
so you can make it to work.
46:14
And well, I guess I'm going
46:16
to the park store on the bike
46:17
to go get the water pump, you know,
46:18
yeah, so I get it, I get
46:21
it to a certain extent.
46:21
Well, you guys, you know,
46:23
let me know if I'm
46:23
whining too much about this.
46:24
I am scared for Jeep.
46:26
I think Jeep is going
46:27
to go out of business
46:28
or suffer immensely if
46:30
they don't get in with Tesla.
46:32
And I'm not talking about them coming up
46:34
with their own stuff.
46:35
They need to get with Tesla
46:36
because the stuff that I've been reading
46:38
and watching on the Tesla,
46:40
this isn't something you
46:41
can write a program for.
46:42
This is something AI has to figure out
46:44
and you have to have
46:45
billions of driven miles,
46:47
video from billions of vehicles,
46:50
which is what Tesla has.
46:51
And that's why their AI
46:52
is doing so good at it.
46:54
And nobody else has that
46:55
because they don't
46:56
have cameras on the cars.
46:58
So here we go.
46:59
So Tesla is going to be
47:00
the new owner of Jeep.
47:02
You know, that crossed my mind
47:04
when we were talking about it.
47:05
There could be worse parent companies, right?
47:06
I mean, Stellantis hasn't
47:07
exactly done Jeep any favors.
47:09
So yeah, why not?
47:12
Why not, right?
47:14
Yeah, absolutely.
47:16
All right, well, good.
47:17
And you guys let me know
47:18
if I'm bit too much about this
47:19
or you're tired of hearing
47:20
about the electric vehicle
47:22
and the, and of course,
47:23
I'm not talking about electric vehicle.
47:24
I'm really talking about
47:25
stuff that can drive you around
47:27
like you're driving this daisy.
47:30
Having the chauffeur,
47:32
oh, this is so funny.
47:33
I saw somebody was talking,
47:34
they have Grock in these Teslas now.
47:38
So he was talking to Grock and he says,
47:41
"Grock, what's my name?"
47:43
And it said, like Ted, blah,
47:45
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
47:46
He goes, "Great, I would
47:47
like for you to address me
47:49
as my Lord."
47:52
And Grock had a British,
47:54
woman's British accent.
47:56
So he says, "What's
47:57
the weather like Grock?"
47:59
And she says, "It's 95
48:01
degrees and blah, blah, blah, blah,
48:02
blah, blah, brain,
48:03
blah, blah, blah, my Lord."
48:06
So it was hilarious.
48:09
That is great.
48:10
All right, man, well, look,
48:11
it was a lot of fun talking to you today.
48:13
I hope you listeners and
48:15
viewers keep chiming in.
48:17
Give me some more accolades for Josh.
48:19
We got to keep him around.
48:21
So Josh, what you got
48:24
coming up for our next episode?
48:26
Well, I've got a new,
48:28
(beep)
48:28
you, you,
48:28
(beep)
48:29
you can stay tuned for
48:30
one of those, absolutely.
48:31
I've got a bunch of those chambered up.
48:33
So we'll be having some
48:34
fun with those as well.
48:36
And some potential movement on the XJ.
48:40
So we've got a new friend, a new pal,
48:46
who is willing to help out
48:48
and get some traction going.
48:49
So there might be some stuff
48:51
happening here pretty soon.
48:52
So yeah, we'll see
48:54
what's up, go on with that.
48:55
And I've got some other news I'll be
48:57
sharing here personally
48:59
as well the next time we speak.
49:00
So all that coming up the
49:02
next time you guys see me
49:03
on the Jeep Talk Show.
49:05
All right, well, we really
49:06
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49:19
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49:20
We'll see you again, hopefully next week.
49:24
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49:25
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49:34
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49:40
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