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O'Brien & Doug S6:E11 [July 21, 2022 Sinatra in Die Hard?] · O'Brien & Doug

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  SPEAKER_07: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by MosureMultimedia.com, KMH Music in Prescotty, Maine, the Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine, and Doug's cousin, Larry.
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  SPEAKER_07: Now do it like you mean it.
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  SPEAKER_09: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_07: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_05: I am O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_07: I am Doug.
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  SPEAKER_05: Copycat.
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  SPEAKER_05: Cobbie Cat.
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  SPEAKER_05: Your laugh was different.
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  SPEAKER_05: Your laugh was different.
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  SPEAKER_05: All right, stop.
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  SPEAKER_05: All right, stop.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna hit stop right now.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna hit stop right now.
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  SPEAKER_05: Jerk.
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  SPEAKER_05: Jerk.
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  SPEAKER_07: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_07: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_07: You walk in the room and we are 12 years old.
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  SPEAKER_07: Maybe even younger.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know you are, but what am I?
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  SPEAKER_07: Uh season six, episode 11.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um let's let's talk about the weekend first.
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  SPEAKER_07: Amazing, amazing weekend.
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  SPEAKER_07: What a weekend, man.
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  SPEAKER_07: Amazing weekend.
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  SPEAKER_07: I'm still tired.
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  SPEAKER_07: Uh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, me too.
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  SPEAKER_07: So we kicked it off on Friday.
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  SPEAKER_07: We had uh um you and I did an acoustic show at a rehearsal dinner for uh a couple of young kids getting married.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um the daughter of one of our great friends, one of our big supporters actually, uh Wade McGrum.
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  SPEAKER_07: And yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: And so we played that.
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  SPEAKER_07: Uh it was an outdoor, uh it was an outdoor gig, and a lot of fun was had by all.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_07: And they got married on Saturday.
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  SPEAKER_07: So congratulations to Akira and Ben.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_07: And um we had a lot of fun there.
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  SPEAKER_07: And that was just the the tip of the iceberg.
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  SPEAKER_07: That was just the beginning.
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  SPEAKER_07: So the syndicate played a big show at the um the n nationally famous Maine Potato Blossom Festival.
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  SPEAKER_07: It's nationally famous?
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  SPEAKER_07: I think so.
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  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_07: The potato industry it is.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um and um we had a uh massive crowd, great crowd.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it was it was a really good crowd.
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  SPEAKER_07: And I don't know what it was.
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  SPEAKER_07: So Chris uh Morton had asked me to to uh take a s uh shot at making the set list.
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  SPEAKER_07: So, and I told him, I said, you know when I make the set list, it's usually I you know, you you probably just throw songs together.
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  SPEAKER_07: When I make the set list, I like group songs into like decades.
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  SPEAKER_07: And I say, okay, so we need to we need two, we got three sixties songs, so we need a seventies song, and then we need an eighties song, you know, just to show the diversity of the band, right?
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  SPEAKER_07: Right.
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  SPEAKER_07: And so I said, Sometimes, Chris, I even put them in keys.
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  SPEAKER_07: You know, like arrange them in the right keys so that one song goes into the next and it's a good you know, seamless.
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  SPEAKER_07: You know, not that we ever, you know, not that we ever go from song to song that quickly, but still.
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  SPEAKER_07: Sometimes we do.
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  SPEAKER_07: Sometimes we do.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um But he's you know, so he said, Can I take a crack at it?
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  SPEAKER_07: And I wanted to try and do it just haphazard.
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  SPEAKER_07: I wanted to try and I wanted to just kind of throw it together like like he does.
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  SPEAKER_07: He just kind of picks songs, you know, that he likes and kind of puts them in a certain order.
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  SPEAKER_07: So I started with a song that everybody knows, uh Sugar Pie Honey Bunch.
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  SPEAKER_07: I can't help myself by four four tops, right?
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  SPEAKER_07: Great opening opening song, and then boom, freeze frame from Jay Gal's band, and then boom, and it was another, and then it just seemed like the first five songs got the energy of the band up, man.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: And that was by accident.
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  SPEAKER_05: And plus, and plus uh there were songs we hadn't done in a while, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: So it was kind of nice.
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  SPEAKER_07: And it was like a nervous energy, like, how does this song go again?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: You know, but everybody was the whole band was spot on.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, it was nice that we were we could hear each other.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and boy could we hear each other.
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  SPEAKER_07: We were under a tent, so the sound was captured and was kind of thrown back at us.
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  SPEAKER_07: So we were super loud in the tent.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um, but we brought extra speakers and so that the crowd could hear us out outside as well.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I just think it was one of our I was I know after the game, I was like, hey, let's gonna see everybody! Well, Doug, why are you yelling?
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  SPEAKER_05: I can't even realize I'm yelling.
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  SPEAKER_05: I I really I had to yell everything because I just couldn't.
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  SPEAKER_07: I was talking to Joel because I went to see Joel's Joel's band played the next night, Joel and Missy, and John played with them uh too far north.
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  SPEAKER_07: And so I went there to see their band and we watched the fireworks as well.
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  SPEAKER_07: And I was talking to Joel, and we both agreed our ears were ringing all the way home after that uh Saturday night performance.
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  SPEAKER_07: But I would dare say that was one of, if not the best performance we've put on.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, I would agree.
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  SPEAKER_05: That was just the songs were banging and we sounded good.
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  SPEAKER_05: And the crowd was into it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, the crowd loved it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Johnny B.
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  SPEAKER_05: and Hillary's kids.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Holy crap.
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  SPEAKER_07: The Star City Syndicate dancers.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes, they're so funny to watch.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, they're hilarious.
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  SPEAKER_07: And then a cool thing happened.
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  SPEAKER_07: So I'm playing, we're like two or three songs in, and I notice my former band director, my former former music teacher from high school, is in the beer t beer uh uh garden.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_07: And I I kind of made a joke that you know I've been playing music for so long and I I've never been this self-conscious.
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  SPEAKER_07: My music my band director is here from high school 30 plus years ago, and we waved, you know, hey, hey John, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_07: We play a song.
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  SPEAKER_07: Next thing I know, he's gotten his horn out of his car.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh, is that where he got it?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think I thought he got one of the like either Kevin or maybe he did.
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  SPEAKER_05: Maybe he did.
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  SPEAKER_07: I don't know where he got it.
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  SPEAKER_07: Uh, I will say that.
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  SPEAKER_07: I don't know where he got it, but he got a horn.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: And he got back up and joined the trumpets, and it was like he was been in the group the whole time.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: I mean, he he read the same charts.
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  SPEAKER_05: I didn't even know he was there until I happened to look back at one point and went, Who's that guy?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: And Small World, John Simonoff, it was it was that night that we realized uh John Reeves, who was my band director, yeah, was also John Simonoff's band director.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's so cool.
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  SPEAKER_07: Because he had moved from from Prescott down to the Scowhegan area and was a was a music uh teacher down there.
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  SPEAKER_07: So just kind of full circle thing, you know?
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  SPEAKER_07: Definitely, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: And so as as he he played the first set with us, or the rest of the first set, and then uh he was leaving and he shook my hand and he's like, This was this was great fun, you know, great charts, great energy, great songs.
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  SPEAKER_07: Uh you guys are awesome.
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  SPEAKER_07: And and I said, Are you gonna play the the rest of the this the show with us?
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  SPEAKER_07: He says, No, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go visit.
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  SPEAKER_07: And he says, but I I've I told John, he says, because he's he teaches um the lore uh motorcycle education class.
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  SPEAKER_07: The traveling so he comes up every couple weeks, I guess, with that.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and he says, I told John, I said, Um, I'm I'm gonna bring my horn and I'm gonna follow you guys.
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  SPEAKER_07: And wherever you're playing again, I'll just I'll just come sit in.
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  SPEAKER_07: I'm like, please do.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that'd be great.
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  SPEAKER_07: That'd be fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: So that was kind of fun.
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  SPEAKER_07: John Reeves, uh, former uh band teacher for uh Prescott High School.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's great, man.
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  SPEAKER_05: So that was pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I busted uh some blood vessels in my hand.
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  SPEAKER_05: You did?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: From the tambourine?
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  SPEAKER_05: No, from the uh congas.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, from the congas?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: I don't remember you playing too much conga.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but one of them I I must have hit the edge of it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hit it hit it wrong or something, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: And it hurt.
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  SPEAKER_05: I was like, I didn't think anything of it the rest of the night.
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  SPEAKER_05: And then next morning I got up and I looked at my hand, it was it was all purple right through here.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh my goodness.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I was like, oh, that's not good.
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  SPEAKER_07: I had a friend of mine come up to me and uh at halftime between sets, and he said, uh, I don't know, that guy's with the tambourine.
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  SPEAKER_07: I mean, I don't know, is he mic in that or something?
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  SPEAKER_07: I'm like, uh no.
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  SPEAKER_07: He said, I can hear it.
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  SPEAKER_07: I'm way over there.
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  SPEAKER_07: I can hear his tambourine.
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  SPEAKER_07: I said, Well, he hits it pretty hard.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I do.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know, I don't need I don't we don't need no stinking mic.
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  SPEAKER_07: I see I said, I think his his vocal mic is probably picking it up.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh, probably you know, something like that.
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  SPEAKER_07: But anyway.
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  SPEAKER_05: That good old SM58.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Something like that.
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  SPEAKER_07: Does it does it do it good?
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  SPEAKER_07: It does it do it good, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: It doesn't do it.
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  SPEAKER_07: Well, a great weekend.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it'll be fun.
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  SPEAKER_07: Really, really cool.
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  SPEAKER_07: Uh great show.
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  SPEAKER_07: Next, next up, I guess, is Sweden Street and uh not this Thursday, but next Thursday.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_07: So and then we're on the road.
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  SPEAKER_07: No, no, and then we play the fair.
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  SPEAKER_07: And then we're on the road.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's the fair and then we're up in the valley.
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  SPEAKER_07: Right.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so it's so it's Sweden Street, the fair, and then we're up in the valley.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: So that'll be fun.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm looking forward to the valley show.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um, okay, so let's talk about Well, the first thing we want to talk about was this whole David Crosby thing.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Because I was listening, I was uh it was yesterday.
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  SPEAKER_07: Was it yesterday?
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it might had to be yesterday.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, that's when I heard about it.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I was listening to uh feedback on Sirius XM.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um a show I once I listened to because you know, you that's where it's on volume on Sirius XM.
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  SPEAKER_07: Where it's it's like the talk the talk radio, but for for music lovers.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: And uh I can't remember the host's name, but uh they were they brought this this up.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um David Crosby.
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  SPEAKER_07: Apparently, somebody had made you know actually, you want to you want to tell it?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh apparently one a fan had made some sort of art.
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  SPEAKER_05: I saw it a portrait, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I saw it too.
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  SPEAKER_07: It was it was good.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean it wasn't bad.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh, you know, I mean it well, not I mean, it's no, you know, Da Vinci or anything like that.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, but it was good.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it was better than anything I could do.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh the guy got on, he's like, hey, you know, at the David Crosby, hope you're doing well.
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  SPEAKER_05: Did a picture of you, thanks for the music, and uh um, you know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Just an homage.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was nice.
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  SPEAKER_05: And then so David Crosby comes back and says, That is the weirdest painting of me I have ever seen.
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  SPEAKER_05: Don't quit your day job.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, what a douchebag.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: And he but he's been uh they put it uh the way they put it on uh feedback was you know, he's eighty something years old, and sixty of those years he's been a crotchety old man.
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  SPEAKER_07: Well, I'm sure yeah, but you know, still but and if they but they said they didn't think it was mean.
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  SPEAKER_07: They said if you know David Crosby, that's almost like a compliment.
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  SPEAKER_05: Really?
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  SPEAKER_07: Like a Don Rickles thing.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh maybe, but still I I thought it was a dick thing to say.
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  SPEAKER_07: I thought it was a dick thing.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: But somebody else got on and said they they drew like a like a you know like a character, you know, like a like a stick drawing of them.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, how's this one, Dave?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_07: You know, said it to him.
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  SPEAKER_07: So I guess um I guess Linda Carter, uh who was Wonder Woman.
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  SPEAKER_07: Wonder Woman Um called him out on it.
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  SPEAKER_07: Did she use her lasso of truth?
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  SPEAKER_07: No, no.
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  SPEAKER_07: But she did say, you know, why don't you go hug some trees or something like that?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_05: Hug some trees.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, she said go out.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh no, she said she said, Go outside and look at the trees.
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  SPEAKER_07: You know, like get over yourself, go outside and look at the trees.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: She put him in his place.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_07: That was good.
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  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, I mean I just thought that was but he's always been, you know.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_05: That's probably why I've never liked him.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_07: He's just been negative Nelly for a long, long time.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know why.
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  SPEAKER_05: I just you know.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_07: I don't either.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_02: Only have seven million dollars to sleep on.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: My gold shoes are too tight, and my w wallet's too full of money, and I can't sit properly.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_07: Speaking of crying, we talked about this a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um we mentioned on the podcast not too long ago, uh, I think it was last week.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_07: Must have been last week.
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  SPEAKER_07: Um, Nita Strauss left uh Alice Cooper's band.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_07: Well, uh, we found out where Nita Strauss went.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_07: She went to Demi Lovato's touring band.
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  SPEAKER_07: No.
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  SPEAKER_07: But she did, though.
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  SPEAKER_07: I know.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's why I'm saying, no.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and and I suppose, I mean, maybe it's a good move for her.
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  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: But I don't know why.
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  SPEAKER_07: I don't either.
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  SPEAKER_07: I don't understand it, but but Demi Lovato is is more current than Alice Cooper.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, Alice Cooper's in his 70s, right?
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: At least.
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  SPEAKER_07: At least 70s.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_07: Um but still going strong.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_07: But I suppose it's a good career move for her, right you think?
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_07: I mean I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_07: I mean I don't either.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_07: Maybe because she's but she's been on Alice Cooper's tour with a bunch of men.
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  unknown: Yeah.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_07: Maybe she just wanted to be around some chicks.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I I don't understand the move.
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  SPEAKER_07: I don't you know, but maybe she just wanted uh change of change of scenery and change of venue and she actually um after she made that announcement, she said she was on the plane to the next gig, which turned out to be um this performance on Jimmy Kimmel, um which featured Nita Strauss.
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  SPEAKER_07: So I don't know, maybe Demi Lovato was going hard.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_07: Nope, I'm wrong.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_07: That was a nice thought.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_07: But she's got a girl drummer, she's got a girl bass player.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_07: This had to be perfectly like it's an all-girl band, I think.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_05: No, which is which is great.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, if you want the best female guitar player in the world, right?
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_05: You get needed trust.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_07: Actually, wait, I think that's a girl.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_07: No, maybe the bass board's not a girl.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_07: No, never mind.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_07: I don't I don't see Nita's trust yet.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_07: I haven't seen Nita yet.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_07: Supposedly she played with her on this is on Jimmy Kimmel.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_07: Mm-hmm.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_07: And I'm looking for her.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, there she is.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_07: Yep, she's there.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_07: And it's a different kind of music for her because she's a shredder.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, she's a shredder.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_07: Anyway, uh you know, I don't question it because I mean everybody has their own, you know, their own reasons for doing things, and and I wish her the best.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, that's I'm still a fan of her.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_07: I am too, big time.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_07: Um and this was just released uh when was the 13th?
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_07: I guess it was Thursday.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_07: Uh Wednesday.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_07: Wednesday.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_07: Kane Roberts, who was Alice Cooper's guitar player a long time ago.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, he's coming back.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_07: He's coming back.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_07: He was Alice Cooper's guitar player on the Constrictor album, which is back in 86 and 87's Raise Your Fist and Yell albums.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_07: Uh he's been largely out of the music business since.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_07: Um anyway, and in a in a group of like the greatest Alice Cooper albums, Constrictor and Raise Your Fists are the last two good like or the worst two albums.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_05: I don't even know those albums.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_07: No, but uh but Kane Roberts is back, so that's good.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_07: Have you seen that guy?
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_07: Freaking Jack.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, he's muscle.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, all muscles.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_05: How do you even play the guitar?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_05: How do you bend your arms to play the guitar?
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_07: I wanted to talk about this, and I I I'm surprised you haven't brought it up, but maybe you haven't heard about it.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_05: Um It depends on what I hear.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_05: Sometimes I hear it hit or I'm hit or miss on the news.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_05: Um Pantera's going on tour?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Rex Brown's coming back, and they got Zach Wilde and Charlie Bonatti Bonatti from Anthropocreen.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_05: Which I think is awesome.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_07: You do?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, good.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, I wasn't sure what you would think.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_07: Um because they're billing it um as like Rex Brown and Phil Anzelmo are billing it as uh Pantera.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_07: Like a Pantera tour.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_07: Zach Wilde says something like he's considering it like like a Led Zeppelin reunion tour.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, sure, yeah.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_05: Like he's just not gonna be Pantera to it.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_05: It's a tribute.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_05: A tribute, yeah.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_07: And that's cool.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think it's gonna be awesome.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's gonna be great.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um uh speaking of Anthrax, they just came out with their fortieth uh this is their fortieth year in existence.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_05: So they came out with a uh with a double double album of remasters, yeah.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_05: All their like classic.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_05: And I saw I posted this on my Facebook.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um them with Chuck D doing bring the uh Bring the Noise, yeah.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_07: So good.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_05: Because you know, you know how I feel about Chuck D.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_05: I love Chuck D so much, and I love anthrax.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_05: And I was saying that I said that I saw them back in '93, back when uh what's his face, uh John Bush was playing from Armored Saint was the singer.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_05: And Danny Spitz was still in the band.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_05: And I saw them, and then they uh I remember during the show, Danny Spitz's gear went out.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I remember you telling me about this.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_05: And so so they started doing all the rap songs they did like on the man and bring the bring the noise and stuff like that, and they were just like joking with a crowd.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they're just the coolest guys.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they're just like, you know, like I remember Scott Ian sitting on the edge of the stage, you know, just kicking his legs, you know, he has a guitar, and he's just you know, they're all like elms.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, they're all like two feet tall.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_05: It was so great, man.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_05: But it was one of the best shows I've ever seen.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_05: And uh so I just I was when I saw that uh, you know, they had this like double album, I was like, oh, Doug, Doug must have this.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_05: Did you get it?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_05: Of course I did.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_05: Of course I did, man.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_05: And it's got a lot of great songs on it.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_05: So um I'm I'm you know, I'm digging it, man.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_05: So it was just so cool to see Chuck D with the anthrax again uh doing bring the noise.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_05: And there was no uh and uh Frank Bello was doing all of um uh Flavor Flaves parts.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_07: Oh wow.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so it was pretty great.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_07: We kind of do well, I I we don't do it uh you know, we don't do it any justice, but when we play when Common Crossing plays, we do a little We do we do bring the noise a little bit of bring the noise, yeah.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_07: Not in it kind of in our own way.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we put our own spin on it.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_07: Tame laid back way.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_07: But yeah.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_07: Um The other thing I wanted to do was I got a couple extra things here, but um um cousin Larry had mentioned a while back that because we were talking about new albums.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_07: We're talking about Journey and we're talking about Death Leopard, he had brought up uh Chicago's new album.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I remember that.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_07: And I hadn't heard much about Chicago's new album.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_07: Well, it's out now.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_07: And what made me think of it was I g well actually didn't make me think of it.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_07: Shane jokingly in our c in our Comic Crossing thread uh said he learned the um the music for WKRP in Cincinnati.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah and thought we should add it to the set.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_07: And I laughed at it, and he's like, Well, I was only half kidding.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_07: He kind of wants to add it to the set.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_07: And I'm not sure I'm not sure that's a great idea.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_07: Well, uh maybe it is.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_07: Maybe it'll be fine it'll be fun.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_05: It might be a nice novelty though.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it might be a nice novelty thing.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_07: Well, uh I was reading a review of Chicago's new album, Born for This Moment, and then I went and I listened to some of the songs, and it made me think of WKRP and Cincinnati.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_07: Um when you think of Chicago, see when I think of Chicago, I think of two eras.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_07: There's the 70s era.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_05: Well, the t I I look at it as the Terry Kath, yeah.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_05: And the Peter Sotera.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_05: Post Peter Sotera, post Peter Peter Sotera.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but because they had well, I I look at it as as Terry Kath, you know, the early stuff with Terry Kath and David Foster.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_07: Oh the David.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_07: Because when David Foster came in, he made them a different band.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he made them pop.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_07: He made them pop, really.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_07: Like from Chicago 16, maybe, to like Chicago nineteen?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_07: Nineteen twenty, somewhere around there, yeah.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_07: Something like that.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_07: Um, they were a completely different band.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_07: They call those the hornless years.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_07: Uh the band does.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_07: Um, because there was horns, but you wouldn't know it.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, there's videos where you know the horn players are playing like keyboards and guitars and like what's well they're pop stars, yeah.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: Wait a minute, what?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_07: Who are these guys?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_07: And I like both eras.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah I mean for f you know, the the the the um glistening eighties era um I like, but I also like the seventies era.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_07: I love to because I love Terry Kath.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_07: Um so I'm listening to this new album, and they've gone back to 70s era.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_07: Good.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_07: Which I think is good because what do they have to prove?
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_07: Nothing.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_07: And they're they don't have David Foster around anymore.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_07: They're just doing what they want to do.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_07: So I thought we would uh sample some of the new Chicago album.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_07: Good, let's do that.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_07: Um here is the title cut uh Born for This Moment.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_07: That does sound like electric bass, though.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_07: Like a like a keyboard.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's that.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: You can tell that Chicago sound.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_07: This is their new lead singer.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_07: I wish I could tell you his name.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say I don't know his name either.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_07: Got a great voice.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_07: He almost sounds like Jason Chef, who was a terrorist replacement.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, so good.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_11: So good.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, if you like 70s era Chicago, I mean it there's some modern sounds there.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_07: But uh But it's a nice throwback.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_07: This one almost is too close to early Chicago.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_05: That sounds like uh beginnings.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_05: Beginnings, yeah.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's so right.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: That's so beginning.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's almost too close.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_06: Still great.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_06: I like it.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_06: This one's called Our New York Times.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_06: Doesn't it sound seventies?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_03: It does.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: Doesn't it sound like WKRB?
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, yep, right.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's right out of like seventy seven, man.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_10: Back in my hometown again.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_10: I'm so used to standing here.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_10: Come with introduced ourselves, don't force the moment.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm never right.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, dude.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's so smooth, man.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_07: That's a good word.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_07: Smooth is smooth, it is smooth.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_05: Um those d those guys, I mean, they have not lost a step.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_07: This is called for the love.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_12: Long ago, far away.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_12: I recall every day at the time every thought was for the love.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_12: Might have been stay like great melodies though.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_12: Three o'clock, day or night.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_12: Didn't sleep, couldn't sleep, and everything was for the love.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_12: I would care I would buy this.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm totally getting this, dude.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: You getting me?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: I would buy this.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_12: With the love, go to bed.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_12: Once again, we're gonna clap.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_12: Stay a friend, have a dead.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_03: I wanna see it.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_03: I wanna see if it builds.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm waiting for that.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_11: All the years go that shit back.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_11: All the hosts are still the stay.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_11: Oh yeah.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I like that one.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_07: That's great.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna do one more.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_07: Um let's see.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_07: How about this one?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_07: Firecracker.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_14: Oh look.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_14: It's all happy.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_16: Sweet music, hot ha, everybody happy.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_16: It's just one look, just be now.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_14: It's just one of the two baby Foxy little heart attacker.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: I like it though.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: I do.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: I dig this thing.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I dig it.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_07: Um the album is called Born for This Moment.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_07: Um and I will probably pick that up.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_07: I am totally in it.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_07: Um good stuff.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_05: I I wanted to segue nicely into um Well, they got you know what it kind of reminds me of is like that, you know, Steely Dan jazz fusion he feels like.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_05: A little bit, you know.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a little bit to it, yeah.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, a little bit.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_07: Um so we mentioned Jason Chef.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_07: Jason Chef was Peter Sotera's replacement on both.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_07: And he's got a new band.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_07: On bass guitar and vocals.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_07: Um uh um Bill Champlin was also in Chicago.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_07: He was the gruff voice.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_07: He left also.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_07: So this new guy, I wish I could you know say his name.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_07: I I don't I have to look it up, but I think it's a great fit.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's kind of good.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_07: He sounds like Jason Chef, and it sounds like he can sound bluesy like Bill Champlin as well.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_07: Um you did mention Jason Chef's new band, and I happen to have that.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_07: Uh what was it called?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_05: It was something weird too.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_07: Generation Radio.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_05: Generation Radio, yeah.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_07: And I have their first single.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_07: Um so Jason Chef left Chicago because if I remember right, uh, because I remember when he did leave Chicago, uh, he put out a thing.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_07: Um it's just been in doing the same thing for such a long time.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_07: So he wanted to change.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_07: Sure.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_07: It was not there was no bad blood or anything like that.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_07: So he left and did his own thing for a little while.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_07: Um Jay DeMarcus from Rascal Flats.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_07: Uh he produced a Chicago album um a couple, you know, probably maybe eight years ago.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_07: Something like that.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_07: Um and so he knew all the guys in Chicago.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_07: So he and Jason Chef were friends.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_07: So Jay DeMarcus of Rascal Flats, Jason Chef, uh Dean Castronovo, yeah, uh, from Journey and Revolution Saints, he's on drums.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_07: Uh guitar players Chris Rodriguez, who's a Nashville session player.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_07: Uh I think he I think he was Trisha Yearwood's guitar player for such a long time.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_07: And Tom Yankton, who I've never heard of.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_07: Um but they've put out an album called Generation Radio, and and they're It's a Frontiers Records.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_07: It is a Front Frontiers Records uh thing, and they're trying to go back to a sound which is right up our alley.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_07: Um I don't know.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_07: Have you heard the first single?
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_07: I thought we played it.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think we we didn't play the whole thing.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_05: I think we Yeah, we played a piece of it, didn't we?
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_05: I thought we did.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know, but I'm gonna play I'm gonna play a piece of it with all the way up to the chorus because and I listened to it before you got here.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_07: And I will forewarn you, some of the lyrics are like like you'd hear back in the day.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_07: Pretty cliche.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but the feeling that's that's the thing with you.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_05: You're gonna listen to lyrics.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna listen to the vibe.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, the vibe is awesome.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: The vibe is awesome.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_05: But I know you're all you were always focused on lyrics because that's your thing.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah, I'm a I'm a vibe guy as well.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_05: Because a lot of things, because with my hearing, all I hear is sometimes, so I don't catch all the words right away.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_05: You know, unless they're really pronounced.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_07: Well, these I think these are pr pretty pronounced.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_07: You'll you'll you'll hear so.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_07: So this is Generation Radio.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_07: Um, and the song is Why Are You Calling Me Now?
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_07: But I mean, I'm gonna get that one too.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_05: I I you know, I I think I will get this one too.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_05: I I was I was on the fence about it, but I was, you know, now that I've heard this, I'm kinda like, hey, this is actually pretty good.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_07: I'm just it I'm just curious if um they have any other song sound bites.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_07: But speaking of people that are a million little waves! Okay, let me let me go to this one first.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_07: Speaking of people, what?
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_05: Uh uh Perry Richardson and Robert Sweet of Striper, they have a project called Clean Break.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_07: Clean Break, yeah.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_07: They just came out with a name.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_07: And that's I've heard songs from that too, and that's amazing.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_07: Here's another one from uh this is called Lights Go Out in Paradise.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_06: Very retro 80s.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean for people our age.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is just like a walk down memory lane.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: This is Dean singing.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_04: Ah yeah, yeah.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_16: Making love in the tall blue grass with diesel eyes.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_16: You had moved up in your head.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_16: Nothing matters in the twelve, it was just I can still close my eyes, all the way, yo.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_07: I think it's the keyboards that make it it's the it's the the keyboards, it's the harmony vocals, it's the melodies.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you know, it's just a sound.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_05: It's you know what you know what it reminds me of?
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_05: Remember when Jason Bonham came out with Bonham back in the 80s?
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_05: Remember that album?
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_05: And I don't remember anybody that was in the band other than Jason Bonham.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_05: But this music reminds me of that album.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_07: Really?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_07: I I for some reason.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_07: I thought that Jason Bon, it was very Led Zeppelin.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it was very Led Zeppelin, but some there's elements of doubt in this.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_07: Sure.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_07: So you know, funny thing, by the way, this is the first time I've seen this video.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because I just uh why are you calling me now the song we just played?
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_07: I watched that video.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_07: You can't see it from over there.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_07: So I watched that video, and then I played this one.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_07: Frontiers must do the must this must be their way of saving money.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, is it background?
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_07: It's the same set.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_07: Just this one's this one's in black and white.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_07: And they're different shots, but it's the same.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_07: It's like we're gonna shoot two today.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_07: This is gonna be this is gonna be the set for both of them.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_07: One's gonna be in color, one's gonna be black and white.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_07: Uh and they'll never see it coming.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_07: Interesting.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_07: If you go to um if you go to YouTube and type in Generation Radio, it's got them in concert.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_07: Uh, and they're doing like, well, I mean.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_07: This is Generation Radio with Dean on vocals.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_04: Oh well, that makes sense.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_07: Which is obviously a journey song.
• 34:29
  unknown: Oh, that's the one.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_07: See, now he sounds more like Steve Perry than Arnell does.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_07: But then you've got them doing um a Chicago song.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my word.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, Chicago E team.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: Because I mean you've got Jason Sheff.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, as well.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_07: Yep, there it is.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_07: What should happen in my Well great they obviously a great live band.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_07: Uh they do uh they do Hard to Say I'm sorry from Chicago into Don't Stop Believin.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, that's interesting.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_07: And they do it any way you want it.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_07: You know, I mean I I I I get that they're doing covers.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_07: I I like the original stuff too.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_07: You know.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_05: It's actually pretty good.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_07: Generation Radio is the name of it, so if you're looking for that um that type of thing.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_07: So the other thing I want to talk about, which was very interesting to me, um, Ultimate Classic Rock had this story on um the fact that Bruce Willis this is non non-musical.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_07: The fact that Bruce Willis was not the first choice for diehard.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_07: Did you know that?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_05: I I think I remember reading this some time ago.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_05: But I can't remember who they wanted.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_07: Well, a lot of people.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_07: There's like a long list of people that were on the list before Bruce Willis.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_07: Really?
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_07: Which surprised me.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but I guess before Diehard, and the only reason anybody knew Bruce Willis was for Moonlighting.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_07: For Moonlighting, and they couldn't see him as an action star.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_07: Um so that's why that's why he was low on the list.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_07: And they didn't want to take a chance on on on him.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_07: But l can you guess you won't be able to guess who the very first person uh approached to play John McClain was.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_07: No, he was on the list, but he was not the first.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_07: He wasn't the first.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_07: Who was the first one?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_07: Frank Sinatra.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_08: What?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_07: I'm serious.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_07: Old Blue Eyes, uh, the first approached for the role of John McClain, but it was a requirement more than a genuine offer.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_07: Frank Sinatra starred in the which I didn't know any of this either.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_07: The 1968 film The Detective, based on Roderick Thorpe's novel of the same name.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_07: Its sequel, Nothing Lasts Forever, was the basis for Die Hard.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_07: A contractual obligation with the studio Met Sinatra had the first right of refusal for the part.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_07: The legendary singer was 73 at the time.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_05: I was supposed to say he was must have been in the 60s, 70s by then.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and understandably uh turned down the part.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_07: Still, it's fun to imagine.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_05: You see him tying that fire hose to his waist and jumping off the.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_07: The only thing I could see him doing is saying, Yippie Kaye.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_07: That I want to say that I would love to hear.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_07: Um according to die hard screenwriter Jeb Stewart, Clint Eastwood also turned the film down.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_07: They went to Clint first.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_07: Ironically, his response to the producers was I don't get the humor.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_05: Um, which was a shock to this uh Well, he's not exactly known for comedy.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_05: I mean he does say some funny things at times, but Yep, it's true.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_07: So um Paul Newman was approached.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_07: Again, he he could have seen that.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_07: He could have but he But he was pretty old at the time.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_07: He was pretty old at the time too, I'm not sure.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_07: Uh but this was interesting uh about Paul Newman.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_07: Uh according to Stuart, once Eastwood passed on the role, it was offered to Paul Newman, who also said no.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_07: Incidentally, a different Newman film helped inspire Die Hard in 1975.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_07: Can you guess?
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_07: Uh about a burning building.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, the Towering Inferno.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_07: Towering Inferno, uh, which was a blockbuster that Paul Newman was in, but that was about a uh skyscraper that was on fire.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_07: And and he the guy, the the screenwriter had imagined a similar scenario, only the hero was evading heavily armed men.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, little tangent here.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_05: Have you ever noticed you know, Steve McQueen was also in that movie.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_05: Did you know that there was like a they were butting heads about who was going to be the lead?
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_07: Like the top building?
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_07: No, I did not.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: There was there was there was like conflict there between Paul Newman and Steve McQueen.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_05: So if you look at the movie poster, they're both on the same line, but Steve McQueen is slightly higher than Paul Newman.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_05: Seriously.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, if you look at it.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_07: Um next in line was Arnold Schwarzenegger.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_07: Um he was approached early in the project.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_05: Uh there was But that would that would have been terrible.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_07: I think so too.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_07: There was an unfinished script.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_07: Uh someone said, Would you want to play this?
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_07: I was working with Joel Silver on Predator, and Die Hard was his next movie, so we talked about it, but then he hired Bruce Willis.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_05: Well, both had choppas in them.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_07: Schwarzenegger! Schwarzenegger was also reportedly getting burnt out on action roles at the time and was looking to do more comedy.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_07: Of course, he ended up with two Danny DeVito and twins.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_07: That actually was a pretty funny.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_07: It was.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_07: Sylvester Stallone was one of the biggest action stars on the planet.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_05: Um I'm just thinking about kindergarten cop.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_05: It's not a tuma!
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_07: Which was funny.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_07: It was funny.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_07: Um he turned down the part of John McClain because it was too similar to his John Rambo character.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_07: I'm talking about Sly.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_07: Uh which is probably, you know, pretty true.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_05: Did you know in the origin I've read the original First Blood book.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_05: Did you know the John Rambo character in the end of that book that kills himself?
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_05: In First Blood?
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_05: I did not know that.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_05: He does commit suicide.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_05: He did and dude.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_05: He kills everybody in that town.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_05: In that town.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_05: Women, children.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_05: Doesn't matter.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_05: Really?
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's it's a violent, violent book.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_05: So that's why they changed They actually did film Stallone killing himself uh in first blood.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_05: But they didn't they it when they test screened it, it just completely just turned audiences off.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_05: So they went with the you know right.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_07: Plus, I mean the ending now the ending opened up for sequels.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_05: But I thought the ending for the movie, the one they went with, was much, much better.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_07: I would agree.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_07: So yeah, I would agree.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_07: Uh next in line, um Richard Gere.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_05: I can't I can't even see Richard Gere as a action star.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_07: According to this book, casting might have been, uh Richard Gere was one of the first choices to play John McClain.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_07: He turned it down saying he had no interest in the project.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_07: Uh he won uh the producer wanted Gere so much that he added another million dollars to his proposed salary in order to get him to sign on, but they added it w wasn't enough, apparently.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_07: Mel Gibson.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_07: Uh he didn't want to do it because it felt too similar to leave the weapon.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I can see that.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yep, I can too.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_07: Kurt Russell.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_07: Um that would have been an interesting choice.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_07: He'd proven himself as Snake Pliskin.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_07: I remember those Escape from New York and Escape from LA.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_07: Uh he passed, but later offered a unique suggestion.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_07: As the 80s action boom continued late into the decade, Russell proposed a crossover flick where he and Schwarzenegger, Stallone and Willis, each played their famous characters.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_07: Snake, T 800, Rambo, and McLean, respectively, in the same film.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_07: He said, I thought it would be fun to put those guys together.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_07: That would have been a realistic version of what Marvel did with the MCU, he explained in 2017.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_07: But pitching it was like talking to a wall.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_07: It was ahead of its time, I guess.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_07: But now you got wha what's that uh um what's what's that s series of movies with Dolph Lundgren and Sly and Arnold Schwarzenegger?
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, the expendables.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_05: The expendables.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's that's actually that's actually it's kind of like exactly what he's talking about.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_07: It's kind of the same idea.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_07: Um Al Pacino.
• 42:41
  unknown: No.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_05: Um I mean, I love Al Pacino, man.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_05: He turned he turned it down.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_05: He he yells everything.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's true.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_05: You know, it would just it would just be the worst.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_07: Apparently, in an in an interview, he said, I'm not a very good judge of what's good.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_07: Uh he he joked that he gave that boy a career in reference to Bruce Willis.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_05: Um But one of my favorite movies of all time is Heat.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_05: With De Niro and the Pacino man.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_07: No, no, not only that.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_07: Uh what's her name?
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_07: The red-headed Irish.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_07: The red-headed Irish girl.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_07: In Heat?
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_07: Am I thinking of actually judging that?
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_07: And am I am I thinking of a different uh De Niro movie?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_07: Probably.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_07: What's the you know, now you're gonna make me look this up because it's really important to me.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_07: I forgot her name.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know the the the the gunfight outside the bank?
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know they actually they actually use that as a reference to show uh people how to do reloads under fire?
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_05: No, I didn't.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_05: They use it as a training tool.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_07: No, I had no idea.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_05: I thought that was pretty interesting.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_07: Uh hold on, I'm looking now.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_07: I'm looking up now I'm looking oh it was Ronin.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Ronan is a great idea.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't it?
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_07: And and now you know who I'm talking about.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, I know exactly you're talking about she was a redheaded Natasha.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_07: Hold on, hold on.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_07: Natasha McElhorn.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_07: Mikkelhorn.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_07: That's it.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_07: She was a redhead in that movie, wasn't she?
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_07: She wasn't?
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_07: I think she was blonde.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, you know what?
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna look her up.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_07: Hold on.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_07: I bet I bet I know what I'm getting mixed up with.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_07: She was in Patriot Games.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_07: And she was redheaded in that movie.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_07: She was redheaded in there.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_07: Hold on.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_05: That's all about the IRA in that.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_07: Uh Ronan was she in Patriot Games?
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_07: Maybe she wasn't in Patriot Games.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_07: That would have been in the 90s as well.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_07: No, according to this, she wasn't in Patriot Games.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_07: She was in the devil's own.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah, that's another IRA movie.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_07: It is, yeah.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_07: Anyway, uh Pacino.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_07: Did you know that Pacino also turned down Han Solo?
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_07: I did not know.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_07: They had asked Han Al Pacino to play Han Solo.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_07: Joy! Go to LightSpace, Joey!
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_06: That would have been hilarious.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_06: Say hello to my little friend.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_06: Say hello to my little friend.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_06: No, I can't see Pacino is not so well there.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_07: Me either.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_06: Um Burt Reynolds.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_07: What?
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_07: Turned down the lead role in Die Hard, not that he recalled doing it.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_07: I don't remember passing on it.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_07: Uh I think they thought I did, but sometimes people can't understand me because I've been in hit so many times.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_07: Robert De Niro.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_07: And that would have been Actually.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_07: Because it was what, 84, 85?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, somewhere around there.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_07: When Die Hard came out.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_07: So he would have been he would have been okay.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_05: And he's from New York.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't even know it would actually work.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_05: You know, so I could have seen that.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_07: Harrison Ford.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_07: Um James Conn, the late great who just passed.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that actually I could probably see that.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think he would have been.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_05: He was BA, man.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he was.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_07: And I think he would have been.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_07: Because he's he's had a long, illustrious career.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_07: James Conn.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_07: But he was always playing, like, he didn't do a lot of lead roles.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_07: Not really.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_07: He had a lot of supporting roles, but he was great in them.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_07: Um and I bet you if he'd done Die Hard, I bet he he would have been huge.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think so.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_07: Um Nick Nolte.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know that I could see him doing it.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_07: Don Johnson.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_07: This is right in Miami Vice.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_07: Right right in Miami Vice.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_07: He probably could have done it.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_07: And then Richard Dean Anderson, MacGyver.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_05: Ooh, that would have been interesting.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know that I don't know.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know if it worked out.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_07: He would have been typecast as MacGyver.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_07: But then you would thought that Bruce Willis was typecast as as uh the guy for Moonlighting.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_07: But anyway, they went with Bruce Willis and I think they just didn't look back because he killed it.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_05: Definitely killed it, man.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_07: I just thought that was an interesting article.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_07: That is interesting.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_07: I didn't realize to see see people that you said Sinatra, I was like, what?
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_07: Right?
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_05: Let's put Sinatra in there.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_05: Let's put a 70-year-old man in that movie.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_05: That'll be great.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_07: Let's see.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_05: But I mean, Stallone is still making Rambos up until a couple years ago.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean, you know, anything's possible, I suppose.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and he's like a hundred now.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's like a million years old.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_07: I know that wasn't music related, but I just thought that was an interesting article, so I thought.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but we're the ADHD of podcasts.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_07: We are, because we went from we went from anthrax to Chicago.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_05: We're good, man.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_05: We know what we're doing.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_05: All right.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_05: Sorta.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_05: Let's do uh Oh, is that Tacana?
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_10: Letter of the day.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_07: Uh what is the letter of the day?
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_05: It is uh uh Oh whatever is after N.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_05: Oh where am I?
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_05: No, that's K.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_05: I think I still got a little ways to go.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_07: This is an interesting choice.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_05: S is too far.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_07: I was also reading this other article, not to go get off subject here, but uh uh there is such a thing as a heavy metal knitting championship.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_07: Have you heard about this?
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_07: Heavy metal knitting?
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_07: Heavy metal knitting.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_07: I have not heard about this.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_07: Um there's a uh an hour and a half video dedicated to it.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_07: Um this is them playing metal music.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: And while they're playing coming from Australia, the first contestant is called Titans featuring Dexter the Dropbear.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: And here's the application video before the show.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_07: We'll get back to the letter of the day here.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_07: I just see.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_07: You can't see this.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_07: But there's actually a woman knitting to this music.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, that may be the weirdest thing ever.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_07: It was on uh rockpasta.com.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_05: Rockpasta.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_07: Um Heavy Metal Knitting Championship.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_07: I bet you if you Googled that, you'd find it.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I'm sure I would.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_05: I just I don't think I don't think I want to either.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_05: I just want to let that one go.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_07: But I was that was one of the things I was gonna talk about, and I just thought I'd throw that in there because I don't want to talk about it any more than that.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_03: It is a thing.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_07: It is a thing.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_07: We're done.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_07: We're reading from the guitar legends alphabet and the drum legends alphabet, both by Beck Feiners.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_07: Uh and the letter of the day is O.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_07: So in the Guitar Legends alphabet, the O is for any guesses.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_07: Um performed relatively young.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, F- Uh, F- Oh, oh, oh, Ortharn Ortharnia, whatever her name is.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_07: That's a good shot.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_07: Good shot.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_07: Uh Orionthe.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_05: Orionthi.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_05: Orionthe, yes.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_07: I was impressed though that you thought of her.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_05: Well.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_05: I knew what I was talking about.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_05: I just can't say her name.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_07: Before this Australian Phenom was 19, she'd already jammed with Steve Vai and Carlos Santana.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_07: After playing lead crystal studded guitar for Michael Jackson prior to his final epic concert, she became the go-to guitarist for artists, including Alice Cooper and Carrie Underwood, and is one of the best players in the world.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_07: Put her and Nita Strauss in a band.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_07: That'd be awesome.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_07: Dude, that would kill.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_07: Wouldn't it?
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 50:37
  unknown: Anyway.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_07: Because Nita Strauss was in the Iron Maidens.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, she was.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_07: She was also in uh one called Femme Fatale.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_07: Uh Orionti dated uh Richie Sambora.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_07: I was about to say Richie Sambora for a while.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, for a number of years.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_07: And they put out a couple of albums together, I thought.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I I don't I don't think they were very good.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_07: I well, you know, they were good, but I don't I think I don't think they were what Richie fans were expecting.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_07: Sure.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_07: Um I I think they were it was good music.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_07: I heard what I heard was good anyway.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_07: Um but yeah, and now she's I don't know if there's I don't think they're still together, but I'm not sure.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_05: It's hard to say.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you know, those celebrity marriages.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_05: Come and go.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_05: Come and go.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_05: So Orionte and Ah, O and the Drum Legends.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, is for Omar Hakeem.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_05: He's actually one of my favorite drummers.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, yeah, go ahead, read it.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_05: Uh a session drummer with A-list rock and pop musicians, Hakeem's Clean and Crisp.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_05: Funky Beats have filled dance floors for Madonna, David Bowie, and Daft Punk.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_05: And back jazz cats like Miles Davis and Roy Ayers.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_05: Playing since he was just five years old, Hakeem proves you're never too old.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_05: Well, wait, wait, I read that wrong.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_05: Hakeem proves you're never too young for the drums.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_07: Now I could see him and Orionthe.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, heck yeah, dude.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_07: Omar can play with anybody, dude.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_07: That guy is awesome.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_07: Compare those two, everything, you know.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_07: I could see that.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_05: I have a I have a big poster of him in my uh drum studio.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_05: Do you?
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_05: I got it from um um the one in May Mirror in the music shop.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_05: Ezes.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_05: When they shut down.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_05: Well, that was a long time ago.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I've had that for a long time.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_07: So well, there you have it.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_07: Omar Hakeem and Orionthi.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_07: The um Guitar Legends and Drum Legends.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_07: Their album will be coming out shortly.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_07: No, it won't, but you know.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_04: No, well, maybe someday.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_04: You never know.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_07: Stranger things have happened.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_07: Stranger Things.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, I'm on uh season three.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_07: Already.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_07: Uh I have two more two more episodes to go, and I'm done season three.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_07: And they were right.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_07: It does get a little more gory.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I'm sure, yeah.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_07: Uh, but it's not bad, bad.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, it's just um but I still love it.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_07: I just I can't wait to watch another episode.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_07: You're totally hooked.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_07: I am hooked, man.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_07: I think it's really well written.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_07: Well, good.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_07: I'm glad um uh season four.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_05: I hope I'm not disappointed, but um they're currently on season five, right?
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_07: Well, no, the season four just came out.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_07: So but season four might be almost done.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_07: Well, actually, are they on season five?
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_07: I think the latest that's out is season four.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_07: They may be working on season five.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_07: I'm sure.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I I think something like that.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know, but I'm gonna watch them all.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_07: You're gonna watch every single one of them.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_07: Every single one of them.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_07: I might even buy the DVD collection when it comes out.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_07: No, probably not.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_05: We'll have it forever.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_05: Ever and ever and ever and ever.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_05: Probably not.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_07: But it's a it's a good show.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_07: I love it.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_07: Um, okay, so uh we're gonna do we're gonna climb the wall of tunes.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, should I do this?
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_07: Uh Wall of Tunes is coming up next.
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• 55:10
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• 55:16
  SPEAKER_07: It's time to climb the Wall of Tunes.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_02: Wall of Tunes.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_02: Wall of Tones.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_05: You all liked it.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_05: You won't like Wall of Tones.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_05: Wall of Tones.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_05: Wall of Tones.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_05: Wall of Tunes.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_05: How many times can we say Wall of Tones?
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: Wall of Tones.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_05: Wall of Tones.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_02: Wall of Tones.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_02: Wall of Tunes.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_07: Alright.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_07: So I'm gonna pick a CD off this uh Wall of Tones over here.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_02: Wall of Tunes.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_02: Wall of Tones.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_05: So are we gonna do the Wall of Tunes?
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna do the Wall of Tunes.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_05: Wall of Tunes.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_05: Uh are you looking away?
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_05: I'm looking over here.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_05: Are you sure?
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_05: I'm looking at your electrical box.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_05: My electrical box?
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know your fuse box.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_05: Why?
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_05: Because that's the only thing I can see right now.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_07: Alright.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna take off my headphones.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_07: Here I go.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_05: Should it be smoking like that?
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_07: That's not funny.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_05: Major look! Did we already do this one?
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what it is yet.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_05: You always do that.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_07: I remember talking about it.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know if we've done the album, but I remember talking about it recently.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_07: Let's talk about it.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_07: We'll try it.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_07: And maybe if we've talked about it, then we've talked about it.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_07: Then we'll talk about it again.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_04: We'll just keep going.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_04: I have one.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_04: I have a CD.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_04: Let the guessing begin.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_05: Is it a solo artist or is it a band?
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_04: It is a band.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_05: It is a band.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_05: What genre of bands?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_05: Rock.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_05: It's a rock band.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_07: I almost think we've done it.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_05: But maybe not.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_05: Uh what uh what was our height of popularity?
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_05: Um I'm gonna say late 80s.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_05: Late 80s.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_05: Hmm.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_05: Any, let's see.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_05: Any virtuosos that we have?
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_05: No?
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_05: Uh any iconic songs.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yes, lots of them.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_05: Lots of iconic songs.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_05: In the late 80s.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_07: Well, their their height of popularity was the late 80s.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_07: Is it poison?
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_05: Am I close?
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_07: No, not really.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_07: It's not a hairband.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_07: Not a hairband.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_07: I don't I I don't consider them hairband.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_05: Let me put my glasses on so I can think about it.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't realize that helped.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_05: What is wrong with this?
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, there we go.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, we're good.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_05: I can't even put on my own glasses on anymore.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_05: Um shoot.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_05: Uh how many how many members in the band?
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_05: Five?
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_05: Is it Bon Jovi?
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_07: I think it's five.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_07: Hold on.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, fine.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_05: Is it Tesla?
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_05: Is there a keyboard player?
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_07: Well like there's a member of the band that plays keyboards every once in a while.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_05: So there's five people.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_05: Is it Pink Floyd?
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_07: They have uh I will say they have two guitar players, a lead singer, a bass player, and drummer.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_07: Oh.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_07: I do think we've done this band before.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_07: It's not coming to me.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_04: So I need some more hints.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_07: Um the lead singer and one of the guitarists are known as the Toxic Twins.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_07: Oh.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_07: It's Rolling Stones.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_07: No?
• 59:14
  unknown: No.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, it's Aerosmith.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_07: Aerosmith, yes.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, Rolling Stones.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, is it the Glitter Twins?
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_07: Glimmer Twins, yes, yes.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_07: Uh so this is the album.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, we haven't talked about this?
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_05: No, we haven't.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_05: I don't even think we talked about Aerosmith.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_07: Really?
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think so.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_07: I almost think that we we talked about well, the album is just push play.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_07: Um, which came out in 2001.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_07: Oh wow.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_07: Which is hard to believe, actually.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_07: Um, because this was so obviously everybody knows about their quote unquote comeback.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_07: They did Dumb with Mirrors, and then they did Permanent Vacation.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_07: Um and Pump.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_07: Pump and Get a Grip.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, get a grip.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_07: There's like a trilogy there.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_07: Permanent Vacation, Pump, and Get a Grip.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_07: That they were like their their like their comeback hours.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_07: Um and that's why I said late 80s or early 90s.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_07: That was their height of popularity, right?
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_07: Because the videos and and run DMC and the walk this way.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_05: But that was that was kind of like the precursor to them.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_07: It was.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_07: It was.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_07: Right around the same era.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_05: You kind of brought them back and those like brought them back into the zeitgeist.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_05: It was like, oh, right.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_05: Girlsmith.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_05: They're still they're not dead.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_05: Right, exactly.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_07: And and and so I don't even remember uh if when did um just push play, what like what was the sequence?
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let me just uh Honestly, I don't even have that album.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_05: Um so I really couldn't tell you what's on it.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_07: Well, there's one song um that was very popular, but it was also very polarizing.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_07: Um because they well Okay, so so they put out so permanent vacation.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_07: Like I said, Done with Mirrors was kind of their um the comeback before the comeback.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_07: Because they did Done with Mirrors and then they went away, I think.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_07: And then Joe Perry and and Steven Tyler put away put aside their differences and they got together because Run DMC wanted to do Walk This Way.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_07: So they got together and they did that and mended fences and they were like, oh we could do this again.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_05: And I think they got clean-ish.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_07: They did get clean, yes.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_07: And um that's when permanent vacation came came out.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_07: And they uh used outside riders for the first time.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_07: Desmond Child, you know, with was dude looks like a lady and a bunch of bunch of stuff like that.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_07: Uh and then Pump, which had um which had uh Janie's Got a Gun and uh Love in an Elevator.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_05: Well I thought Lovin' an Elevator was on Permanent Vacation.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_07: Um hold on a second.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_07: I want to see if it was on 'cause Get A Grip had uh Shut Up and Dance on it.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Get A Grip had Living on the Edge, Loving on the Edge Shut Up and Dance, Crying, Crazy, Amazing, all those, you know, Silverstone videos.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, of course.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_05: Liv Tyler also was in the city.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_07: And then they put out an album which I really liked called Nine Lives, which had um Falling in Love is Hard on the Knees, uh Hole in My Soul, Pink.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_07: Do you remember that song, Pink?
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_07: I do remember that.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_07: You know, and that that had a pretty good uh pretty good run.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_07: But then they repl released uh just push play in 2001.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_07: And it was it was very what's the word I can use?
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_07: Mediocre?
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_07: No, it was very you think of like permanent vacation, you think of pump, and just straightforward rock and roll.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_07: You know?
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_07: Very um it was contemporary, but it was still classic-based.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_07: You know, I mean it's like like Rolling Stones-based.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:03:02
  SPEAKER_07: You know, they're they're kind of known as the Rolling Stones of America.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_07: Sure.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_07: Um and then this one was very modern, like production-wise.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_07: Oh.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_07: Let me just play a couple of things and you'll see what I mean here.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, somebody calling?
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's part of the song.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_05: But we're getting a dial tone.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_07: But you'll know what I mean when you hear when you hear this is called Beyond Beautiful.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's a little bit different guitar style for Joe Perry.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_06: It's and it's very slick.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_06: Very processed.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_07: And actually, the title track is even worse.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_07: It's called Just Push Play.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_05: I think I heard this though.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know I bet you have.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_07: Just push play, they're gonna bleep it anyway.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_07: Or they're gonna uh Yeah.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_03: See that sounds like a goal.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_03: What do I mean like the productive?
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds like a drummer, it is a good thing.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_05: I like it.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean I I do, but it doesn't sound it's not Aerosmith.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_05: Right, and I think that's it's like uh, you know, uh, it's uh Aerosmith hybrid.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_07: I think it that's what bothers a lot of Aerosmith fans.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it could have been, yeah.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_07: Uh a lot of people, a lot of people like compare this to Van Halen 3.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_07: It's like very polarizing.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_05: No, that no, no, that's that's just cruel and unusual.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_03: But like, okay, so here's one.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_07: Uh see now that sounds like somebody this is called trip hopping.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_06: Not my favorite, but not terrible.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_15: I followed Alice into Wonderland.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_15: I ate the mushroom and I dance with the queen.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah, we danced in between all the light.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_15: I followed daylight right into the dark.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_07: But but you know, I I like it.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_07: Um I don't know why.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_07: I just I like Steven Tyler's writing sometimes, his his vocal or his uh lyrics.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_07: They're just very I don't know.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_07: This was the ballad.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_07: Have to have one of those.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_07: Truck.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_13: Gotta find a way.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_07: Fly away from here.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_13: I can't wait another day.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_13: Ain't nothing gonna change.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_13: If we stay around here, gotta do what it takes.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_07: So I was gonna look and see who wrote these.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_14: Goes out in our hands, we all made mistakes.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_14: Yeah, but never too late.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_14: Start again.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_07: Still pretty good.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's kind of terrible.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_07: Um, and then this was the big hit.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, jaded.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_07: Which I like actually.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_05: I actually I like the song a lot.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_07: So I was just looking at the liner notes.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_07: And I don't know if this is common thread around that era.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_07: Uh, but Bon Jovi came out with Crush in 2000, which was the year before this.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_07: And they worked with a uh Swedish guy named Marty Frederickson.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_07: Frederickson's name is all over this album.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_07: And Frederickson was behind the Backstreet Boys.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_04: Ah making sense, all making sense.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_04: All coming together.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_06: Sorry, but I dig this song.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_03: I like this song a lot actually.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_07: But then after.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_07: So after this album, they did the blues album.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_07: Remember that hop honkin on bobo, which is like back to their blues roots?
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_07: And then they did music from another dimension, which was universally panned.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_07: Uh was awful, according to wells from another dimension, so we we're not ready for it yet.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_07: That's true.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_07: And that was in 2012.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_07: Ah.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_07: And that is the last album they put out.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_05: Well, they've been busy since then.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_05: They have been busy.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_05: You know.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_05: Steven Tyler's become somebody's grandmother.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you know, come on.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_05: Dude's busy, man.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_05: Come on.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_05: That's true.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_06: And I uh somebody I have seen that, yeah.
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_05: It's like it's like somebody's grandma was trying to be cool.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_05: You know, it just it just looks that way.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_05: But I did see him in that uh Dave Grohl documentary, What Drives Us.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_05: He's sitting in the old the the first Aerosmith van.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, which is pretty pretty trippy.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_05: You know, so you know, but they're just a band from Boston.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, not Boston, Boston.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_07: I think he's from New Hampshire or something.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, they are, yeah.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_07: He's from New Hampshire, yeah.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_07: Steven Tyler is.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_07: Um where did I watch that?
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_07: Was it a documentary on Aerosmith?
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_07: Where did I watch that?
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_07: Was it was it behind the music?
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_07: Or because Steven Tyler took you back to to New Hampshire.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_07: Oh right.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_07: And uh was walking you through, and then they were talking about the Yardbirds, how they were an inspiration.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_07: Uh what was that in?
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_07: I'll have to find that because that'd be interesting.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_05: Because I like Aerosmith.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_05: I do too.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_05: I have Toys in the Attic on vinyl.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_05: And uh I think I do too, actually.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_05: I love that.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_05: I like that album.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_05: I like early Aerosmith.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, me too.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_05: You know.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_05: You know, I just like the story of Dream On, you know, they're writing a song in F minor.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_05: And uh who writes songs in F minor?
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_05: Who writes songs in F?
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_07: And uh I like the riffs that Joe Perry comes up with.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, a lot of the things You know Joe Perry's a very underrated guitar player.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_07: He is he is also, you know, that Brad Whitford is also underrated because a lot of people don't know this, but a lot of the lead work on the uh early Aerosmith stuff, and actually some of the newer Aerosmith stuff, they think is Joe Perry.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but it's Brad Whitford.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, is it really?
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, absolutely.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_07: Like the like one of the um solos in Dream On, like one of the big solos in Dream On.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_07: I don't remember was it Dream On or Walk This Way?
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_07: But it's Brad Whitford, it's not it's not Joe Perry.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_07: Really?
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, interesting.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_07: So I and I can't remember which one it was, uh, but you know, you would think it was Joe Perry because of his you know status in the band and everything.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_07: But but yeah, it's Brad Whitford.
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_07: Awesome.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_07: Anytime you hear something that's that's um straight up rock and rollish, you know, like um it's it's usually Brad Whitford.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_07: Joe Perry ha has kind of a unique, weird way of playing guitar.
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he has an interesting, he has a signature style.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, he does.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_07: But he writes great riffs.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_07: You know, and one of my favorites is draw the line.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_07: Um good stuff.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_07: Oh absolutely.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_07: The album of the or the CD, I should say, of the week is Aerosmith's Just Push Play.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_07: I have no idea what the cover is all about.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_07: Uh it looks like a robot girl.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_07: It's a robot girl in a in a yellow dress.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, she's doing a Marilyn uh Monroe.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_07: She is.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_07: So I don't know why she has to be a robot.
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_07: I don't either.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_07: It's just uh I don't know, smoking too much.
• 1:12:19
  SPEAKER_07: Something.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_02: Uh word is clean and there you go.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_07: That's uh the uh CD of the week from the Wall of Tunes.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_07: Aerosmith just pushed.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I don't believe we've talked about Aerosmith.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_07: I thought we did the other day.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_07: I think uh because I just pushed play, I mentioned it on something.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_07: We must not have must not have been a wall of tunes, but we were talking about it or something.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't even remember talking about it, but maybe it just came up and because that's what we do.
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_05: We just kind of go random, you know.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_05: We're off on a tangent, we go down the rabbit hole, we meet Alice, we shake hands with the the queen of sp you know hearts or whatever, and I just got that from an Aerosmith song.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_05: Did I?
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_07: You didn't you don't remember that?
• 1:13:00
  unknown: No.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_05: Which Henry Smith song is that?
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_07: Well I just played.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_07: It was uh I think it was Oh yeah, it was.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that was a subconscious thing.
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_05: It was.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_07: That kind of sat in the back of your mind there.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_07: That's weird.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it was weird.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_07: Unless you did it on purpose and you're trying to play it on the city.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_05: No, because I was thinking, because we tend to go off on tangents.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_07: We do.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_05: And then I thought, oh, we went down the rabbit hole, and then I thought Alice and Wonderland, and then we just I just realized that when you brought it up, we there was yeah, okay, I get it.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_05: It's all connected.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_05: It's time to end the podcast.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm starting to ramble.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_05: It's probably time to go.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_07: Season six, episode eleven.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_05: We must end the show before Doug loses in complete control of his facilities.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_05: I'm O'Brien! I'm still Doug.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_05: I'm still sane.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_05: Adios, all of one, I beat it.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_05: Good night, doot handy turn on the bubble machine.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_09: Good night, until we meet again.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Adios, all of one, I'll be mistaken to men.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_00: And though it's always sweet sorrow to heart.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_06: You know you'll always remain in my heart.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_09: Good night, sleep tight, and that's a dreams to you.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_09: Here's a wish.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's gonna win.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_02: Good night.
• 1:15:19
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• 1:15:23
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• 1:15:34
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