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Dr Marty Makary Joins Preston To Talk About Your Kids And Smart Phones · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: Hi, Good morning, ruminators. Welcome to the third hour of
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  Speaker 1: show five thousand, two hundred and thirty three. Now, but
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  Speaker 1: who's counting, that's Hose, I'm Preston. It's the Morning Show
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  Speaker 1: with Preston Scott. Great to be with you this morning,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, thank you for sharing time with us.
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  Speaker 1: Keep in mind, we've got a lot of weather watches,
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  Speaker 1: tornado warnings in the region. We've got tornado watches to
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  Speaker 1: our west all throughout the listening area, and so just
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  Speaker 1: keep listening to the radio. It'll interrupt us if need be,
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  Speaker 1: with very significant weather updates as needed. But I'm really
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  Speaker 1: pleased to have with us. I've been a longtime admirer,
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  Speaker 1: especially through COVID, because he was one of the few
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  Speaker 1: rational voices speaking. Doctor Marty mcarey is a Johns Hopkins Professor,
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  Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author. He's got a new book,
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  Speaker 1: we'll maybe touch on that in a few minutes as well,
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  Speaker 1: visiting professor over twenty five medical school and has published
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  Speaker 1: over two hundred and fifty scientific peer reviewed articles. And
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  Speaker 1: he's our guest this morning. And that's going right on
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  Speaker 1: top of the bio, isn't it. Doctor McCarey how are you, sir,
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  Speaker 1: great to.
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  Speaker 2: Be with Depresson, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: You have panned a recent op ed in the New
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  Speaker 1: York Post, and it's so ironic because it's been a
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  Speaker 1: topic on the Show of late, the importance of trying
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  Speaker 1: to get cell phones out of public schools and out
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  Speaker 1: of kids' hands as much as possible. What is your
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  Speaker 1: kind of motivation for pushing this so hard?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the average teenager gets two hundred and seventy three
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  Speaker 2: text messages or notifications in a day, and when they're
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  Speaker 2: in the classroom, they are saying in these studies that
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  Speaker 2: have just come out that they're being distracted by their
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  Speaker 2: phones and their notifications. And remember, these big tech companies
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  Speaker 2: have made these apps and phones by design to be
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  Speaker 2: a to grab the tension of a kid and hold
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  Speaker 2: on to it as long as possible when the kid
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to be learning. So we've done tremendous damage
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  Speaker 2: to children during COVID prolonged school closures, all those COVID
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  Speaker 2: restrictions that resulted in massive learning loss. Brown University study
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  Speaker 2: just came out. It found that on average, IQ has
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  Speaker 2: gone down twelve points. We're doing a tremendous disservice to
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  Speaker 2: children with these traconian policies, and so one thing we
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  Speaker 2: can do, it's not a sober bullet, but one thing
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  Speaker 2: we can do is to get rid of these distractions
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  Speaker 2: during class.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that's interesting is there are a
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  Speaker 1: couple of districts inside the state of Florida, doctor McCarry,
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  Speaker 1: that have gone this route. They have banned them and
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  Speaker 1: not just banned them in class time. They can't take
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  Speaker 1: them out in between classes, they can't take them out
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  Speaker 1: in the lunch room. And the reports are overwhelmingly positive.
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  Speaker 1: Re engagement of the student in just talking to each other,
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  Speaker 1: and better behavior and less bullying because they're not setting
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  Speaker 1: kids up to get videotape of a fight and posting
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  Speaker 1: it online.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's right. We're seeing the human connection restored in
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  Speaker 2: school districts that are banning cell phones. We're seeing kids
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  Speaker 2: now grow up with less impulsive behavior. You know, there
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  Speaker 2: is a group of parents out there, and God bless them,
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  Speaker 2: they are doing the right thing. And they are saying,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to give my kid a phone when
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  Speaker 2: they turn ten, I don't have to give my kid
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  Speaker 2: a smartphone. I don't have to give my kid an
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  Speaker 2: account on Instagram or snapchats, and these parents are doing
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  Speaker 2: a great service to the future. My sister is one
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  Speaker 2: of them. She's got her two young teenagers raised beautifully,
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  Speaker 2: no cell phones, no added sugar, at least in the
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  Speaker 2: first four or six years of life, in the formative
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  Speaker 2: years when their gut is developing. And these kids can
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  Speaker 2: shake your hand and look at you and talk to you,
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  Speaker 2: and so I think kids are hungry for a human connection.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Preston Show with Morning Scott what he's busy,
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  Speaker 1: but he's fit us in doctor Marty McCarey with us
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  Speaker 1: JOHNS Hopkins University's professor there and a highly respected man
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  Speaker 1: in the profession, doctor McCarry I'm just curious, is there
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  Speaker 1: any level of consensus when this kind of technology ought
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  Speaker 1: to be in the hands of kids. I know it
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  Speaker 1: might be there is no one size fits all, its
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  Speaker 1: maturity levels and those kinds of things. But from a
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  Speaker 1: scientific perspective, is there a spot where you kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's safer for young people to have this stuff?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we have good evidence data on that
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  Speaker 2: particular question. Parents ask it all the time. Sure, I
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  Speaker 2: tend to think once a kid has a real enjoyment
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  Speaker 2: of hobbies and other activities. You want the kid to
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  Speaker 2: be addicted to something good, right, You want them to
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  Speaker 2: be addicted to sports and family time and healthy foods
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  Speaker 2: and spending time with others and community service. So everyone
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  Speaker 2: has their thing that gives them a dopamine rush. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: essentially has an addiction, but you want it to be
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  Speaker 2: the good things, to exercise, to positive things. You know.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing about banning cell phones in school which
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  Speaker 2: has been positive, is it's addressing this mental health crisis.
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  Speaker 2: One study found at two thirds of kids in America
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  Speaker 2: today report being addicted to their phones during class, and
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  Speaker 2: forty four percent said that their phones make them anxious.
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  Speaker 2: We've got the most medicated potion in the history of
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  Speaker 2: the world. We've got epidemic levels of anxiety and depression.
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  Speaker 2: So why are we giving them actively giving them the
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  Speaker 2: cocaine for their addiction and ignoring the fact that this
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  Speaker 2: is something that we can control when they're in a
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  Speaker 2: public school on task payer dollars with the purpose of
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  Speaker 2: paying attention to a teacher.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I hate saying this stuff as the old guy,
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  Speaker 1: But how do we do it right? I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: did we manage to not talk to mom or dad
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  Speaker 1: fifteen times a day, or get text messages or phone
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  Speaker 1: calls or look at stuff. How do we manage.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean people are saying, well, they might
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  Speaker 2: need their cell phone for safety. Well, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: of any example where a cell phone in the classroom
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  Speaker 2: has saved the kid's life. Maybe it's possible, But what's
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  Speaker 2: killing kids is the mental health epidemic. We've got escalating
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  Speaker 2: rates of suicide, depression, anxiety, and so we can't ignore
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  Speaker 2: that fact. If you look at the data, it's pretty compelling.
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  Speaker 2: Kids are basically crying out for help. They've had terrible
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  Speaker 2: learning loss. Not really as much in Florida because they
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  Speaker 2: didn't fall for the prolonged school closure a gimmick, but nationwide,
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  Speaker 2: this is something we're starting to see states do in
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  Speaker 2: school districts implement, and it's working. The results have been
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  Speaker 2: very positive.
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  Speaker 1: We got a couple minutes left, and I would be
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  Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't tee up and ask you about
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  Speaker 1: the book Blind Spots. Doctor McCarey, you came on my
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  Speaker 1: radar during COVID. I believe COVID really damaged the credibility
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  Speaker 1: of the medical profession, and I don't know if it
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  Speaker 1: can be repaired without an admission by the medical profession
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  Speaker 1: that it was wrong and how it conducted most everything
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  Speaker 1: and advised during that period. But what was your purpose
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  Speaker 1: in writing the book and what's it about?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I agree with you. We have
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  Speaker 2: not seen any humility from our medical establishment nationally, and
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you it was a doctor. Humility is
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  Speaker 2: the most important thing in being a doctor. But COVID
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  Speaker 2: was a snapshot. It was actually a peek into how
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  Speaker 2: a broader, arrogant medical community functions. You saw the same
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  Speaker 2: hubris and arrogance that resulted in them getting the low
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  Speaker 2: fat diet and food pyramid wrong for sixty years. They
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  Speaker 2: ignited the opioid epidemic with the dogma that opioids were
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  Speaker 2: not addictive. They ignited the modern day peanut allergy epidemic
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  Speaker 2: with the dogma they should avoid peanut butter for young infants.
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  Speaker 2: They have created some of our modern day health crises,
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  Speaker 2: and right now we're dealing with a chronic disease epidemic.
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  Speaker 2: Half of our nation's children are abuse or overweight, a
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  Speaker 2: quarter have diabetes or pre diabetes, and autism goes up
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  Speaker 2: fourteen percent a year every year. I mean, who is
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  Speaker 2: stopping to say, what's going on? What's what are the
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  Speaker 2: root causes? We've poisoned our food, supply engineered highly addictive
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  Speaker 2: food ingredients. We liberally go out mental health diagnoses. We've
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  Speaker 2: got the most over medicated population in the history of
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  Speaker 2: the world. We're converting America's children into a generation of patients,
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  Speaker 2: and then we blame them sometimes for being sick. We
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  Speaker 2: have got to get rid of this hammer lock that
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  Speaker 2: pharma and big food and big agg have on health.
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  Speaker 2: We've done a terrible thing to doctors in this country.
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  Speaker 2: We've told them diagnose in medicaid, diagnose and medicaid, And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to give you a coding book, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to ask you to write notes, and you need
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  Speaker 2: to be busy billing and coding. And we're going to
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  Speaker 2: measure you as doctors by your throughput. Well, guess what,
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  Speaker 2: a third of them are burn out. We have the
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  Speaker 2: highest suicide rate of any profession. People hate this system.
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  Speaker 2: Patients hated, doctors hated. The most over medicated population in
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  Speaker 2: the world and the thickest population in the world. What
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  Speaker 2: are we doing? We have got to take a step
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  Speaker 2: back and ask the big questions, talk about the root causes.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the NIH needs to study food is medicine instead
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  Speaker 2: of back coronaviruses in Wuhan, China. Maybe we need to
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  Speaker 2: talk about school lunch programs instead of just putting every
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  Speaker 2: young kid on ozepic when they're overweight. Maybe we need
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  Speaker 2: to talk about treating diabetes with cooking classes. So we
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  Speaker 2: have a movement now in medicine to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: underlying gut health and environmental exposures, and the role of
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  Speaker 2: pesticides and healthy foods and avoiding seed oil. All of
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  Speaker 2: these new areas of scientific research around health, not sickness,
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  Speaker 2: but around being healthy that people need to hear about.
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  Speaker 2: They have been in the blind spots of modern medicine,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why I wrote this book, Blind Spot, so
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  Speaker 2: I want people to know the truth about health and
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  Speaker 2: when medicine gets it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Can't wait to see your Christmas card list. Doctor McCarry,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for the time. You are welcome back anytime
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  Speaker 1: you let Brendan know that and I'm going to do
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  Speaker 1: the same. But thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Great to be with you.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Preston, Doctor Marty McCarey with us this morning on
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  Speaker 1: the Morning Show with Preston Scott,