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Mississippi State vs Florida · Johnny's World

• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: All right, welcome back to a brand new edition of the Johnny's World Podcast.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's Johnny here with my colleague BW.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: How are you doing today, BW?
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Hey Johnny, I'm doing pretty good.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited about heading out to Starkle this weekend.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh not the game we thought it was gonna be, but I'm still excited to go down there and check it out.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be good to get down here, but hey, look, we got some breaking news.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: I hear that you donated eight million dollars to Mississippi State Football, BW.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I was trying to man.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: I was trying to be anonymous, but you know.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Word got out.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: Word got out.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's BW, eight million dollars.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all are gonna be studying in the the BW study hall at the Davis Wade Stadium or something like that.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, you know, after getting absolutely embarrassed on our home field by a Mac team in Toledo, we sign a four-star linebacker today and get eight million dollar donation in that.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then we got a running back on Sunday.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: How's that happen?
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't I don't get it, but uh and the people were saying anonymously, man.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I've heard a lot of people say it's Dak, but you know, he's getting paid uh what like I think it's like three million dollars per game, so he's making 60 million a year.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: So man, eight million to him, it's like what is that like two and a half games?
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I mean, if it is if it is him, man, there's more we need more Dak.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: We need more.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a start, it's a great start.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: Don't get me wrong.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: But if we want to keep up with these guys and that's see, we need multi-millions, you know, coming in.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's getting paid 60 million.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: So Chris Jones, man, it could be we it's not just Dak.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: We got all these NFL players, so this is a not knocking by any means.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's a huge start.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: Eight million bucks is awesome.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, if we can get some more guys, if it it might not even be Dak, you know, but if it is Dak or or if it's not, we need Dak, we need Chris Jones, we need Montez.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, there are all these NFL guys, they're making millions.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what we need, you know.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: Every all all the podcasts you heard about this week talking about how oh, yeah, we're just getting beat in NIL, we're never gonna be able to compete.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, man, if if people don't if people say, Man, I'm what I'm watching that crap the other night, I'm not donating anything, it's just gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: So, this is actually a step in the positive direction with people donating money, and obviously we're getting some players out of it, which is really good.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: So that's uh that's promising because I I swear, man, I think we're sitting at one and eleven this year after watching last weekend.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how we're gonna beat anybody, including you, Matt.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: So um this is a uh this is much needed, uh eight million dollars for sure.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: But uh look, you what we need though is is we need some kind of uh mentorship uh of some offensive and defensive linemans.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh right.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: We we need instead of throwing cowbells, Gabe Jackson needs to come back and and host a camp.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we need to get Chris Jones in town to host a camp and tell some of these kids how great Mississippi State is and and offer to, you know, they don't have to do a whole lot, but maybe say, hey, you can text me if you need me, or just just kind of generally be available just slightly to the program.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, maybe have a day or two, like I said, a camp where they just teach the kids some stuff and make them feel like, hey, this NFL guy showed me some something and he went here.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I feel like that goes a long way too, and then just the money, give us some time.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think these NFL guys are the key to success for Mississippi State football moving forward.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you got you got guys on the national stage.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Dak Prescott, the face of the Americas team, the Dallas Cowboys, every Sunday he's out there playing, representing Mississippi State.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: So these guys, if if you're gonna if we're gonna want to improve in NIL and all that sort of stuff, like you just said, we're gonna have to have these guys.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Not only money, money is huge, huge, huge part of it, but also uh giving back in some way of letting people know, hey, uh, I'm proud to be from Mississippi State.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_01: None of these guys are coming on here and say, hey, I went to uh so-and-so high school, you know, not even saying it.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, it just uh it starts from from there up.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that's our our number way, number one way of uh getting the ball rolling is getting these NFL guys involved and and getting money in, but also um just acknowledgement and players.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: And these guys obviously it's a track record, kind of like our basketball team with uh our previous coach Ben Howley coached all those NBA players.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: That I felt like that was his key to get players to come to Mr.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: State.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, look, I coach uh Kevin Love, Russell, Westbrook, uh, and look where they are.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: So now, I mean, Levy obviously didn't coach him, but he can obviously look at all these guys that are on Sundays from Mississippi State.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: So that's a that's a big point.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we need we need it because it was I can't remember a game that was that rough last weekend.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I, you know, I don't want to sit here and beat a dead horse about it, but it was it was pretty tough to watch.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we were there for the for the main game in in 2004, and uh, you know, uh people were talking about comparing the games and everything, and some people said that the main main game was worse because it was a uh uh lower division opponent.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: But man, I I've I was there at both of them.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: I think the Saturday was the worst loss I've ever seen.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh matter of fact, reason why is because we got embarrassed by Mac.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they were just dumb.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: It looked like Alabama out there beating us here.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they didn't just beat us, they embarrassed us.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, on both sides of the ball.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: Couldn't do anything.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: It was just comical, actually.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's insane that a team could do something like that.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: So that was the worst loss I've ever seen.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: And that's all my years going to Mississippi State games.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: So uh just real embarrassing.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't see uh improvements this year at all, man.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: I hate to be a W.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't see it.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: And the um Florida coming into town this weekend, you know, they're in the same deal.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, only hope for is if we can somehow beat them, that they'll they'll do like we did.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: And this game's starting to remind me of the 04 uh Florida game.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: Florida comes in with uh Ron Zook as the coach and um cream, and this is the year that we lost to Maine, same sort of deal.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then we shot the world uh with Jarius Norwood and uh uh beating Florida, and Ron Zook got fired the next day.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: So I look I looked for uh Billy Napier to get fired on uh Monday or Sunday if we somehow pull the upset, but I don't see us pulling the upset.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't either.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know I listened to uh our good friend and host Steve's podcast.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: I guess it was the one from yesterday, the Wednesday podcast.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I did feel a little bit better about it.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you've listened to it yet, but he was talking about how um, you know, we've had three coaches in three years, right?
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: And we've had the most turnover in the transfer portal.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: We've lost something like basically 20 players from each class in the past three years.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so, I mean, it's just it's just coming back to bite us.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: And and like what somebody was saying, I think maybe the hey dad said this, but had had we just known that we were in this bad of shape at the beginning of the year, may have been easier to accept it, but because they had closed practices, nobody really had any idea, so we just assumed we were gonna be pretty good.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: But maybe maybe we just were bad all along and we just they were kind of playing tricks on us to make it seem like we were better than we were.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I'm hoping that you know we can get out of the dungeon here after this year.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: But um, and and it seems that, you know, like we talked about before with Arizona State, what they were they'd only had three wins last year, and now they're three and oh um, beating us.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, you can see how things can turn around quickly in a year with the transfer portal, good and bad.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: So there's hope, but it's it's not gonna be great the rest of this year.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for all the people saying uh saying fire levy, man, this that's just insane.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like that'd be the worst thing to do because we're like you just said, Steve said we're on we're on our third coach in three years, and and in order to get somewhere, you gotta have consistency with and stability within the program.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: You can't keep changing.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: And if that's the case, I mean we we couldn't, and as bad as I was about hiring Levy because I didn't like him because he wasn't a head coach.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: He was uh I feel like we swapped uh what we did last year, unproven coordinator to hire unproven coordinator off defense last year, offense this year.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: But that's all that we could get, man.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: No one's wanting to come here uh with the shape that we're in.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: So what are you gonna do if you fire Levy?
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: Who are you gonna get?
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: No one's gonna want to come here.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have to deal with what we got and uh and hit and give them a few years and see what happens, and then maybe in three or four years, if it's not turned around and move direction, but you can't keep just firing coaches and hiring coaches, and especially uh with what you got, no one's gonna want to come to begin with.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: So uh we got to give this guy time and uh and get work the transfer portal, money coming in like like today, the 8 million, that'll help out a lot, and just getting getting his players in.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: And because right now we have no talent on either side of the ball.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we're just gonna get, I mean, I can't imagine next week in Austin what it's gonna be like, but uh but yeah, it's it's it's just gonna take a while.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: Rebuilding stinks, man.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like we say all the time, it wouldn't be like this.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I told someone the other day when Mike Leach died, Mississippi State football died.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's the truth.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: So we're having to be risen from the dead all the way from the bottom ground all the way up, and it's gonna take a long time.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're right about that.
• 9:48
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• 9:52
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• 9:54
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• 9:58
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• 10:05
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• 10:16
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• 10:27
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• 10:34
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• 10:35
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• 10:39
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• 10:46
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• 10:50
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• 10:55
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• 10:58
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• 11:02
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• 11:12
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• 11:14
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• 11:18
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• 11:19
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• 11:22
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• 11:25
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• 11:34
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• 11:36
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• 11:43
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• 11:44
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• 11:45
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• 11:46
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• 11:47
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• 11:50
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• 11:56
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• 12:05
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• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: And thanks for all your support.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh BW, I know got the Florida Gators well in town.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: I know we talked about last week about reliving uh some Florida games at Mississippi State.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh matter of fact, my I have to say this my very first game at Mississippi State, I've said this before, um, was October 1st, 1992.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: First game to go as a season ticket holder.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'll never forget it.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Best night of my life, man.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Got checked out of school, three o'clock.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: My grandparents took me up there.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: Went to the game.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: We stopped and got some barbecue, which is at a place called Big Al's, it was no longer there.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's right there next to where uh Petty's was, and uh stopped and we tailgated by Dorman, went to the game.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: It was a Thursday night, ESBM.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: We played Steve Spurrier's Florida Gators, Shane Matthews was the quarterback at Florida, and this was Jackie's second year.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Sleepy Robinson was our quarterback, got hurt in that game, and we ended up beating Florida Gators that night on primetime, NASA TV, 30 to 6.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I got home at 2 a.m.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: the next that morning, and then I made an A plus on my spelling and math test the next day.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: I still remember that to this day.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: It was just a great day in general.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: That I guess that was when my fandom of Mississippi State started that night, and then uh and then and then uh I guess that was in '92.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: So eight years later, me and you were coming into Mississippi State as a freshman in college, and our very first it's it's odd that year we played some road games to start off the season.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: So it was September 30th, was the first home game.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: September 30th, and we played uh Florida, and they were uh in '92, they were they were ranked pretty high, but they were top five when we played.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: They were number three.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Number three at it.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: Number three in the nation, uh, when we played them on uh at Davis Wade on September 30th, 2000.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: And man, that game was one of the best ones ever.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: We had uh, I mean, Wayne Mackin, Disinzo Miller, Dante Walker, they just ran all over Spur, got his visor, threw it down.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, there you can look at the clips on YouTube.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: There's one one situation where uh Florida got backed up to like, I mean, I think they took a safety because they were so far back.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh man, we just dominated them.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think they scored a touchdown at the end to make the score look a little bit decent.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, we just absolutely just ran all over them, tore down the goalposts.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: That was the first game we saw them turn down the goalpost as a college student, and uh, and then we ended up coming the next week.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: We had it back.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: That was a CBS uh 230 game, that game.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then the next week we had hosted Auburn, it was a CBS 230 game.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: We won that one back-to-back weekends against top 10 teams, and that was uh that was really the last year Mississippi State football was good until uh till Dan Mullen came around years later.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: But um the 2000 game, what do you remember about that?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember were you on the field when they tore down the goalpost?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Man, Johnny, so the crazy thing is, is um, you know, my dad was a Southern Miss fan growing up, so I had never been to a Mississippi State game.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that was my first Mississippi State game in my whole life that I've ever been to.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so that was that was a good one to go to.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny because I'd been to a couple old Miss games, Southern Miss games.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: I've been to I've actually been to Auburn Games, uh LSU, uh, but never had been to a game at Mississippi State because I actually wasn't planning to go to Mississippi State until pretty late, uh it closer to the summertime of our senior year.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so the the main thing I remember is that game and Spurrier throwing that visor, and you you always hear about that visor getting thrown down, and then when you actually see it in person, it's like, oh man, this is it's just like this shocking moment.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's like this is like on TV, it's like a huge thing, and you're and you're there.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember rushing the field and they had those bushes.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so you had to climb through the bushes, yeah.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: And then um some guys in our fraternity had gotten uh hold of one of the pieces of gold post, um, and there was like 10 of them, and they were carrying it.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember I was like holding it with them, and we carried it all the way back to the fraternity house, and they were like sawing it up and and giving it giving it away.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, I was a freshman and I didn't get any of it.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: The guys still had it, you know, up in the room and everything from bringing those goalposts down.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I just remember thinking, man, this is this is college football, this is what it's like to be at college.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and this is this is awesome.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I'd always liked college football, but I was more of an NFL fan up until that moment.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was a good day.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I it's crazy.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: I was I was looking at it, I didn't realize we had lost the week before to South Carolina.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're we were supposed to have uh we were supposed to have game day.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that was supposed to be the first game day at Mississippi State was that Florida game because uh the week before we we had beat South Carolina that week, we've been undefeated and we've been a big time matchup.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I always remember that because when we finally hosted game day in 2014 for the first time ever, everyone talked about that.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: They were like, well, we were supposed to have in 2000 if we did not lose on the road the week before the South Carolina.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: So pretty crazy how that happened.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it was uh it was still a it was still a big time game.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then I I I was just looking at the year, so we lost to LSU in Baton Rouge in overtime.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: So should I have that one?
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then I remember this game.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we lost to Arkansas, yeah.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: Bad weather.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: We beat Alabama the week before, uh, and then lost to Arkansas.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was horrible.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I remember it was like yeah, it seems like it was right before Thanksgiving break.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: And President Bush, the HW Bush, was uh was there halftime.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: It was be an honor.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but but that game that we lost, we had a home winning streak dating back to 1997 or 98, somewhere around there.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: So we went like three or four years without losing a home game, and that's the game that we lost at home that to break the streak.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: So that was a that was a horrible game.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: It was freezing, raining, freezing, cold, and 17 to 10 in overtime.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I guess it was 10 to 10 at the end of the game, and so just you know, and then I I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure you and I went to the the egg bowl together that year in Oxford.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: But was it the would have been two years after that?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we went we went in 04, I believe, to the egg bowl.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: In 04, it rained.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't go to that one until we lost.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: It rained at that one as well.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: It rained.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't only reason I remember we went in 04 was because I saw Coach Cheryl in the bathroom.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and so that was right after he left uh he was there at the game, but he was in the bathroom.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh crew wasn't coached then.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, but yeah, and then like I said, then so we played Florida at home in '92.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Then we played him at home in 2000.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Then the one I talked about earlier, 2004, they came in to 10.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: They weren't ranked, and we weren't ranked, and it was kind of like this matchup now, uh, and we beat them.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then 2009, Dan Mullen's first year at Mississippi State.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, that was when Florida was ranked number one in the country.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: They came in with uh Tim Tebow.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: And the highlight of that game everyone remembers is that Jonathan Banks picked six off Tebow right in the half, runs at 100 yards all the way downfield.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: And at that moment, I was like, man, we're gonna freaking beat number one team in the country with Dan Mullen.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, everyone was riding high with Mullen first year, and and uh in that moment happened, and then obviously Florida just turned it on a second half.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: But it was Tebow to this day said that that was the loudest environment he'd ever been in as a college football player, especially at that moment.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh, and then obviously uh that it was in 09, and then they came back again in 18.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that game was Mullins' first game as a coach at Florida.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: We had more in.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I watched a video, I watched a clip of this last night I saw on Twitter.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know if you might remember this, Nick Fitzgerald threw this just perfect pass down the field.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: We had a receiver named uh Osiris Mitchell.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Is that it?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Osiris Mitchell, I believe.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: Wide open.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he had it right there in his hands and and dropped it, and we lost the game.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was like 10 to 10 to 6, low score in a fair.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that would have been the difference in the game.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: And everyone was like, that was the moment uh Mississippi St.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: Football died post-Dan Mullen.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, because that team was just stacked that we had coming back in 18.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: Mullen, we say that all the time.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Mullen had been here, we would have won the SEC.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, and it was just stacked, and so we lost to them then.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: So uh um it's crazy.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: They've only been here six times in uh 32 years, I guess.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: So uh and we've won, we won in like I said, '92, uh 2000, 2004.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's three, and then we lost in 09, 18, and probably Saturday more than likely, unless something happens.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, it's always fun to look back on the games, especially the good ones you'll remember.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: I remember uh I was actually working the press box in that 04 game with Kroom and I got down on the field after right before it was over with.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: And you can see me if you watch the video of Jerry's Norwood running the punt back uh to to seal the game for Mississippi State, he runs into the end zone, and I'm right below the uh goal post, jumping up and down.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: You can see me on the on the clip.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: So uh that was uh that was that was a cool moment.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I remember that was the game that Jack Crystal said on the radio uh at the end of the game on that particular play when Norwood ran it back, uh they threw a flag and and Jack Crystal said something like, if the flag's on us, I'm gonna come down there and shoot them, shoot the rest.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and it wasn't on us, thank God.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, he was because we we that was a rough year, and and to get a big win like that was was big time.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I'm not expecting to win this weekend.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: Matter of fact, if I had to pick the score, uh I would say uh Florida's gonna beat us 34-13.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I decided on.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think the score is gonna be 13's lucky that we're gonna get that many.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: Give I mean that we're gonna score that many.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but I don't think it's gonna be close.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: What about you?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm with you on that.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um I like something like 34-7, 34-10.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll go 34-10.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think we score at some point.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um I just don't see us doing it unless I don't know, I haven't seen the injury report if we get some guys back.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh because we've had some D-linemen out and right, so maybe that gives us a little.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they're coming back or not.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody really knows.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um so maybe that gives us a little bit, but I just I don't see how we can do it.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Unless Toledo is is better than Florida.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's gonna be like that, just in the country.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we made them look like.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: We definitely did.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: So but either way, I'm looking forward to it.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go on on the pick'em thing.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Don't forget to uh everybody who's listening, he's in our pick'em make your picks.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at the thing right now.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it looks like Bulldog 450 is uh in first place.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Then we got mud bugs in second, and dim dirty dogs in third, and I'll ready Juan Valdez is in fourth.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: Looks like I'm in seventh.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: PWU are in 23rd, but yeah, like we say all the time, you know, it's it's somebody can miss some picks, not put in their picks.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: You can you can jump up really high on this thing, and you can fall really fast too.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: So uh main thing is put your picks in, and and uh I guess next month, well, I guess next week will be the last Saturday of September, and then the next one we'll we'll uh announce the winner and he'll get the coffee.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm looking forward, Johnny, to to come down and be on campus.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna try to get together tomorrow night and um record somewhere downtown.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: Somewhere on in town and uh and have that for y'all uh next week.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: That'd be pretty cool to kind of uh talk about, you know, we'll we'll be in town and talk about what's going on and in Startville uh on a game though.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm not expecting it.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: We're also scheduled to be on Steve Azar's podcast Monday.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, this upcoming Monday.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: So look for us on that too.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: We're looking to get uh get the coffee products and be the uh ambassador coffee products of the state of Mississippi.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: He will help us out in there and get the governor involved, and that's uh pretty cool.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then we got a great get great uh guest that y'all are all gonna know and love on the podcast next week previewing uh our game against Texas.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: All right, all right, all right.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: No hints there.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: But all right, y'all.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, everybody have a good weekend.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Be safe traveling to the game.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: Looking forward to seeing some of y'all down there, and we will talk to y'all next week.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, indeed.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: See y'all.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: All right, bye y'all.