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Ambition & Personal Wellness w/ Blake Baynham from The Fountain | Ep 55 · The Driven Athlete

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Speaker 1: If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach and pursue a higher quality life with some ambition, then guess what this podcast is for you.
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Speaker 1: This is the Driven Athlete Podcast.
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Speaker 1: What's up?
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Speaker 1: Y'all?
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Speaker 1: It's your man, dr Kyle.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, driven Athlete Podcast.
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Speaker 1: We got the guy Blake Bynum back with us from the fountain.
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Speaker 1: What's up, man?
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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back, of course.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back.
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Speaker 1: I know you're a busy dude.
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Speaker 1: You're involved with Hugh and West Palm, the fountain, west Palm beach family kids All going nuts, so yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say how's that going?
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Speaker 2: It's it's been incredibly challenging, to say the least.
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Speaker 2: Um, you know it's just per usual, put too much on my plate, but we're working to kind of get that worked out and get into a a a calm phase of our life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's similar man, like I find myself like I could do that.
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Speaker 1: Yep, I got it.
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Speaker 1: Like I'm a yes man, like let's get it, you know we can do that.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like why did I do all this?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's funny.
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Speaker 2: I saw a post this morning.
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Speaker 2: It was like what's what it says?
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Speaker 2: It says something along the lines of if, if you don't have a, if you're not on target, you don't have a mission like opportune, or distractions present themselves as opportunities and I'm like for me that's been a big shift, I think, in the last um, last 18 months.
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Speaker 2: For me is like stuff's popped up and I've recognized it as being.
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Speaker 2: This is a distraction I need.
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Speaker 2: It's shiny object syndrome.
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Speaker 2: Sounds great, it looks awesome, I need to stay.
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Speaker 1: The woman in the red dress, for sure, and what I've heard from people and mentors and stuff, they're like, as you get more involved in building network and you're getting um, helping a lot of people, the and successful right, it's like things are working.
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Speaker 1: I says cool, the shiny object or the woman in the red dress gets more attractive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this skies is itself is like a great opportunity, but it's still like a distraction and like it just becomes more tempting, unfortunately, to like dive into that and you hurt the thing that you should be saying yeah because you're saying no to something else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you follow Ryan Holidaying with stoic like author and stoicism and stuff.
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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan, but he was like.
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Speaker 1: He was like I have no written on my whiteboard on my desk and then next to that, no, I have my kids' photos.
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Speaker 1: So if I say yes to something, that's what I'm saying no to is my kids and my family the things that are important, and I'm like yo.
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Speaker 1: That makes total sense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've made that mistake man, and I've talked about it with my wife a bunch and, uh, you know, had a lot of like demons I had to face and regret for decisions I made because it was, you know, in the in the moment you don't, you're not like consciously making decisions like I can't wait to make a bad decision?
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Speaker 2: yeah, I'm.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna, you know, sacrifice my, my family for this.
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Speaker 2: It's just like you think you're doing what the best thing is at the moment and come to find out when you're neck deep in it.
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Speaker 2: You're like, wow, this was uh, this is not.
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Speaker 2: It not?
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Speaker 2: A deal yeah yeah, you know it's, we do our best and we uh continue to to make you know adjustments and tweak and make the steps in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: Totally, that's all we can do.
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Speaker 1: And with the fountain, right, um, tell everybody and remind people.
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Speaker 1: The fountain in West Palm, it's, it's 95 in Okeechobee, and that orange theory and Bolle Plaza, right, yep, but yeah, tell, tell everybody what it is and what y'all do, yeah, so we're an anti-aging clinic.
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Speaker 2: Um, you mark, we're really getting ready to shift gears.
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Speaker 2: So originally it was very it's always been focused very much hormone therapy, medical weight loss has kind of been the foundation of what we do, but we're really getting ready to add a whole new component to it which we'll we'll dive in later.
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Speaker 2: So we're going to start doing a lot, of, a lot of testing, a lot of diagnostics, because that seems to be from a business side, like what people are interested in, right, like what gets people in the door.
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Speaker 2: They want to know what's going on with their body.
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Speaker 2: They want to know from a imaging standpoint, from a DNA standpoint, from blood work standpoint.
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Speaker 2: So up until this point we've really only offered the blood work, a really comprehensive blood work panel which tells us a lot.
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Speaker 2: But we realized we were missing out on the opportunity to give people a lot more information and equip them with the tools to really make some profound changes with their lives.
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Speaker 2: Like, um, you know, when I got into this, I kind of thought of HRT as like all right, this is kind of the end game, this is like what we're going to provide with people is really going to help, and it really does, but after being in it for a year and seeing the other stuff that's out there, I'm like wait, we're, we're, we're scratching the surface yeah.
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Speaker 2: A hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: Like there's so much more opportunity out there, like there's so much more opportunity out there.
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Speaker 1: So, um, so, with more dive and that and part of that.
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Speaker 1: Like you're saying, the comprehensive approach is the imaging, the full body MRI opportunities, and then it gives more information so that you can take purposeful, direct action of what to do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and, and so the goal is to again provide people with the information, but then also provide them with a plan Like you can go to a lot of different diagnostic centers for anything.
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Speaker 2: The plan Like you can go to a lot of different diagnostic centers for anything, and a lot of times they'll deliver you the results and they're like good luck, you know, go find, go find somebody to help you with this.
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Speaker 2: Like we're working on.
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Speaker 2: We already have a protocol in place for the hardcore competencies to provide people with solutions in the areas that we'll talk about today, um, but the areas that maybe are on our specialty right, like cardiovascular issues, like we're not.
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Speaker 2: We don't have a heart, you know, heart doctor, cardiovascular doctor on staff, so we're going to refer it up.
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Speaker 2: We have a great network of people that we're going to work with, and so it's like it's a very handhold process for our clients, not just hey, can we get this test and get a report in your you know email a week later and good luck figuring out what's going on.
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, totally so.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, what are some of the other course of action that y'all recommend and provide?
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Speaker 2: So the things that we're gonna really be looking at?
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Speaker 2: I guess it's.
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Speaker 2: Can we start with the diagnostics?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, because that'll kind of segue into how we're gonna do it.
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Speaker 2: So the diagnostics my partner's in imaging and MRI traditionally has done just traditional orthopedic, you know, you hurt your knee, go see a doctor like, hey, you need an MRI, go get the MRI done.
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Speaker 2: There is new technology that's come out that allows us to perform a full body MRI.
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Speaker 2: It's going to scan for, of course, orthopedic issues top to bottom, looking at cancer screening as well.
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Speaker 2: So it can detect any growth up to, or sorry, larger than half a centimeter Cardiovascular health, neurological health as well, brain scan.
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Speaker 2: So it's going to give you a real comprehensive look at all your organs and tell you like, hey, from an imaging standpoint you're in good shape, or hey, there's this issue we got to deal with, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: Um, so that's one big component.
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Speaker 2: The second component is going to be the genetic testing.
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Speaker 2: So two pieces of genetic testing are the are genes, they are what they are.
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Speaker 2: It's this report and we'll dive into it in more detail.
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Speaker 2: But this report tells us, you know how many all the different areas that were genetically predisposed to certain conditions.
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Speaker 2: So there's different neurological conditions, different, you know, food and nutrition, or different types of exercise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of different types of information we're getting there.
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Speaker 2: The other component of the DNA testing is epigenetic.
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Speaker 2: So that refers to our biological age.
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Speaker 2: How old are you today?
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Speaker 2: Like, how old does your body think it is?
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Speaker 2: Or how is your body acting?
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Speaker 2: So, like I'm 38, if I go in and my biological age comes back as 50, 12 years closer to the grave than I should be, that's something we need to take a look at.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 2: So that's the two areas.
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Speaker 2: And then we're already doing the blood work and so, again, blood work's really looking at hormones, vitamin deficiencies, where can we supplement.
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Speaker 2: But that's a great snapshot of today.
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Speaker 2: So in all of this we have imaging of how we look today.
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Speaker 2: What's going on with our body.
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Speaker 2: We have blood work looking internally, how we're looking today.
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Speaker 2: We have the epigenetic testing, which tells us our biological age, and that's not a day-to-day thing, but it's like hey, where are we at?
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Speaker 2: How fast are we aging?
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Speaker 2: Like that's another part of the report.
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Speaker 2: It gives back.
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Speaker 2: It's like what's your pace of aging?
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Speaker 2: And so that literally tells you like, on average, we should be aging one year per year.
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Speaker 2: I'm aging 1.3 years per year.
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Speaker 1: I.
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Speaker 2: Aging at a faster pace, and so that test is cool because you can do that every.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you're taking steps to try to remedy it every six, 12 months, retake it and you will see it adjust.
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Speaker 2: And they have like, um, god, what is it?
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Speaker 2: They have like these anti-aging Olympics, where people like literally in contest to try to see how low they can get it.
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Speaker 2: And there's some guy I can't forget, I can't remember his name.
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Speaker 2: Uh, he spends like $2 million a year on all this regenerative medicine and like anti-aging stuff.
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Speaker 2: It's obviously got buku bucks, um, but he got it down to like 0.65.
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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, so he's aging, like I think it was one year or sorry.
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Speaker 2: Every 19 months he ages a year, which is pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's a good thing to spend it on, Right?
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Speaker 1: So and he's just doing all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's doing a bunch of regenerative medicine, I'm sure, a ton of supplementation IVs.
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Speaker 2: I mean there's a thousand different routes you can take, but I imagine it's mostly regenerative medicine-based.
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Speaker 2: So stem cells, exosomes, that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: So from a diagnostic standpoint, people can come in if they're like I just want to look at this area.
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Speaker 2: They can come in to check out one area, but we'll offer great packages and stuff where people can come in and really get just the most comprehensive look they can at all these areas.
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Speaker 2: There's no other facility definitely not in Florida, we don't think in the country that does full-body MRI, genetic testing, blood work all on the same roof.
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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, give their patients solutions and how to how to move forward action plans yeah, exactly and y'all building that out right now, the, the imaging uh, areas of your, of your facility eyeball deep in construction.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.
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Speaker 2: Uh, it's been a challenge, I'd say mackery right, he's doing your thing so he did our original construction.
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Speaker 2: Um, but we're doing because the mri requires a lot of specialty uh trades like wall, like lead, right, yeah, lead wall.
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Speaker 2: So there's actually the x-ray room is right next to me.
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Speaker 2: So I was like you see, a little extra lead, check the plans we got.
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Speaker 2: We got some lead there, right, like I'm literally gonna have to have a?
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Speaker 2: Uh, what's the radiation monitor there?
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Speaker 2: To like make sure I'm not getting blasted?
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Speaker 2: You know it should be fine with the lead wall, but for safety precaution, like, yeah, I'm gonna leave this here on my desk.
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Speaker 1: See what we're getting turned into like marie curie from the 1800s and get dive radiation.
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Speaker 1: You're a scientist, marie curie yeah yeah, yeah, we're trying to avoid that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like why are you like glowing green?
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Speaker 2: you're like glowing in the dark, not worth it um, yeah, so between that and then the mri itself requires, um, you know, special wall as well.
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Speaker 2: So it's, it's just a um.
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Speaker 2: Chris did fantastic with our space, love him.
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Speaker 2: Um, but yeah, we brought in my partner, brought in their team that does it.
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Speaker 2: They've done a hundred of them and they can bang them out pretty quick, so cool so, and how many?
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Speaker 1: so what's that look like?
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Speaker 1: How many x-ray machine?
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Speaker 2: one machines for mri so we completely like gutted the back half of our space.
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Speaker 2: So we previously had, you know, three offices, three treatment rooms, bathroom break room in the back of our space.
10:24
Speaker 2: So we previously had you know, three offices, three treatment rooms, bathroom break room in the back of our space.
10:27
Speaker 2: The three treatment rooms, bathroom and break room are gone.
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Speaker 2: We took over the space next door.
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Speaker 2: Um, so knocking down like the wall in the back there, that's all.
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Speaker 2: The back area is all going to be MRI, cause that machine's huge, it's like I didn't realize it's 16,000 pounds, that thing, wow.
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Speaker 2: So they have to cut a big you know probably the size of that entire wall behind you like cut out of the uh, the back wall to bring it in, cause they can't assemble it on site.
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Speaker 2: Um, they had to pour like three feet of of a slab underneath it, cut through the existing slab or sorry, it was 18 inches, cause it's currently six inches that had cut through it.
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Speaker 2: You know, kind of, uh, dig down rebar, dump three feet of or another 18 inches of slab underneath it just to hold the machine and make sure it's not vibrating.
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Speaker 2: And stuff.
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Speaker 1: So it's a big project.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot going on.
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Speaker 2: They're cutting through our wall next week to make access from the front, so it's a disrupting business a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Wow, wow.
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Speaker 1: So where are we at?
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Speaker 1: What's the status then?
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Speaker 1: Right now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the genetic testing we're starting October 1st, so we got all our kits in.
11:28
Speaker 2: We're getting ready to start rolling that out.
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Speaker 2: I started marketing a little bit on Instagram, got some people signed up ready to go, and then the build out it's really dependent on the machine.
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Speaker 2: The machines take forever, so the machine should get there early November.
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Speaker 2: So they got to set it up Aka inspections, all that fun stuff, Of course.
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Speaker 2: So we're hoping that after um, after Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhere before the holidays, yeah.
11:52
Speaker 2: December yeah, get, get going kind of before season really gets nuts.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, get our feet underneath this and then uh, yeah, that's great, that's awesome, that's really cool, um, especially with like.
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Speaker 1: I mean because orthopedic stuff, um, and the stuff that we see, like getting more information is always gonna be helpful and it helps bring a little closure of, like, what's going on, like, why is this hurting?
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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and it's super interesting.
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Speaker 1: We get a lot of people that like back pain, neck pain, shoulder, hip, like all that stuff, and they get mri and they're like look at this report, like it's only like this, this is all it is.
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Speaker 1: Like it's just saying this like what the heck?
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Speaker 1: And I'm like like there's not.
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Speaker 1: Like this, this is all it is.
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Speaker 1: Like it's just saying this like what the heck?
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Speaker 1: And I'm like there's not really much remarkable shown here.
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Speaker 1: It's like I'm like hey, high five.
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Speaker 1: Like this is great, actually, because it means like nothing super abnormal is going on, not like an anomaly, just some mild tendinosis of your supraspinatus or, like you know, mild degenerative changes in your knee, right, great, that means we can take action versus like changes in your knee, right, great, that means we can take action versus like would you want to have a bunch of abnormalities found in MRI?
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Speaker 1: Of course not, right, no, but anyway.
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Speaker 1: So like it's just really cool.
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Speaker 1: Getting more information can help bring closure and for the people we see like they usually appreciate that it's funny.
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Speaker 2: I get that kind of that reaction from people when we tell them what we're doing.
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Speaker 2: They're like either oh I want to know, like I'm not sure I want to know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they got it.
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Speaker 2: What about?
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Speaker 2: What do I do?
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Speaker 2: Like well, it's there regardless if you know or not.
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Speaker 1: So it's better to know and have an action plan, you know yeah, I just want to know what's going on, I want to see it right.
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Speaker 1: It's like tight, totally, you know.
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Speaker 1: And then definitely some people like I mean one, no, let's just, let's just take action here and I'm gonna progress and get better.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take that, you know, but anyway I'm sure we'll be sending some people get some imaging at some point.
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Speaker 1: Oh, thanks, yeah, um, so then all right, so we got a comprehensive preventative wellness check and it's kind of a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 2: You were just so that really is everything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that's kind of how we're brand.
13:36
Speaker 2: I mean we haven't branded it yet, but that's that's what we're talking about.
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Speaker 2: It's literally the visual right, the, the MRI, genetic testing, blood work, it's like you have.
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Speaker 2: Just I'm not sure what else there is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some other testing you can do, like pharmacological um, to see like how you interact with uh, with drugs.
13:51
Speaker 2: There's uh gut microbiome testing you can do as well.
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Speaker 2: Nutritional sensitivities, methylation, um, cancer you know, I forget the um, the exact name of the testing for can't for like cancer predispositions, but that stuff's a little bit more specific.
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Speaker 2: But from a broad general health, what am I predisposed to?
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Speaker 2: Where am I good?
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Speaker 2: Where can I improve?
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Speaker 2: That's going to cover Biological age.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to cover a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 1: What blood work stuff do you all find abnormalities, most often.
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Speaker 2: The usual stuff, right, like thyroid function.
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Speaker 2: A lot of times we'll find vitamin deficiencies, um, and again we're not.
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Speaker 2: We're not acting as a primary care physician, so usually they've been in and done blood work and if there's a pre-existing issue like thyroid, you know they're, they're managing it.
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Speaker 2: Like myself, I have thyroid issues.
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Speaker 2: So same thing, um.
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Speaker 2: But we're looking at hormones.
14:38
Speaker 2: That's kind of our specialty, right.
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Speaker 2: So looking at hormone panel, um, seeing males and females, how everything looks if they're out of balance, taking into consideration, you know, how old are they planning on having kids?
14:48
Speaker 2: What's the best treatment course from there?
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Speaker 2: And you know, usually people come in.
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Speaker 2: They're like I don't feel the way I did, you know, mid-30s, late-30s, 40s, 50s, I don't feel the way I did in my late-20s.
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 1: Like, why do I feel like crap?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, why do I feel like crap?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Bloodwork's the first place we look we have.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked to a lot of people within our networks and stuff that say the same thing, that they get people that approach them and they're like I'm mid-30s, I'm early 40s and all my imaging seems to be somewhat normalized.
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Speaker 1: But why do I feel so crappy?
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Speaker 1: Right, like, why do I feel so not healthy, right, not vibrant?
15:23
Speaker 1: I'm low in energy, like WTF, like what's going on, right?
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Speaker 1: So it's just a really common thing that I've heard from a lot of the other practitioners that I've networked with that say that with their patients and I imagine, like I mean, it was taking action, right, you were saying and, with that being said, you mentioned supplements, right, what kind of supplements do y'all usually recommend to people?
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Speaker 2: supplements, right.
15:44
Speaker 2: What kind of supplements do y'all usually recommend to people?
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Speaker 2: So, usually kind of the basics, right, and we're going to.
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Speaker 2: We're going to.
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Speaker 2: That's a area that right now we're just kind of sending them out like, hey, you can get this stuff over the counter.
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Speaker 2: Eventually we'll have our own brand of supplements and things that we're going to offer, but, um, for now it's, you know, kind of the basics the multivitamins, different vitamins that they're, they're missing out on usually liver support, things to help with metabolism.
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Speaker 2: So if there's just certain markers that are showing up that are contributing to them not being able to lose weight, we're going back in and saying, hey, this could help.
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Speaker 2: And I think the big thing when people come in and it's important for us, it's important for them to understand, important for us to communicate, is it's not a one size fits all.
16:24
Speaker 2: And so while this may work for Kyle, this may, this I present the same issue this may not work for Blake, and so it's a refinement process, and so the people that come in and aren't looking for a quick fix that are looking for.
16:37
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of times we hit, we nail it, or pretty close to nail it right out of the gate.
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Speaker 2: But it's like the people that come in with a long-term approach of like I want to, I want to change my lifestyle and manage my health better long-term, those are the people we can really help, because they don't do it for two months Like I didn't have results and give up.
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Speaker 2: It's like, well, you gotta, you gotta refine it, like I've been doing you know HRT and peptides for seven years now and I'm every, every you, you know three to six months.
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like refining it.
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Speaker 2: I kind of look and see like, hey, what have I?
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Speaker 2: How's my blood work looking, where can I improve?
17:10
Speaker 2: What can I do?
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Speaker 2: And that's that's the best way to approach it.
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Speaker 2: So if you go and try to do 15 things at once right out of the gate, like one, you're not gonna stick with all of it right, so you don't know what's working either.
17:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, but um, everybody wants that, that quick fix, unfortunately.
17:23
Speaker 1: It's like fitness, because we've definitely seen this a lot too in our practice.
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Speaker 1: People that well, they get hurt.
17:29
Speaker 1: They just do too much, too quickly.
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Speaker 1: There's this big flash of intensity for two to six weeks and then they were like my shoulder's messed up in my back or whatever, and they just hit the ground.
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Speaker 1: Hit it hard.
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Speaker 1: I'm like let's take the slow route, a little more progressed and purposeful.
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Speaker 1: Hit the ground.
17:45
Speaker 1: Hit it hard.
17:45
Speaker 1: You know I'm like let's take the slow route, you know, a little more progressed progressed and purposeful.
17:51
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just, uh, I totally agree.
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Speaker 1: You know like there's with uh, altering nutrition, um, taking, you know, advantage of all these comprehensive treatments y'all can do or diagnostics that y'all can do, taking action on that stuff, fitness, um, and mental health, totally Like it's just it's a process for like a long, long time and hitting it too hard at the beginning is very often like not a great recipe because you get burnt out and if you don't see the results quick, like you want to, it's it just creates more, um, it's not, it's not reinforcing the longterm benefits you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's.
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Speaker 2: That's something cool.
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Speaker 2: Though, with hormone therapy specifically and I'm I'm bringing it up because I have this conversation with almost everybody I talk to I'm like that's the one thing that I think makes it super not not just effective, but people like stick with it is that they see results pretty quickly.
18:40
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
18:41
Speaker 2: And the things that they're, you know, whether it's sleep, energy levels, their physical fitness, like within the first month, like they're seeing a change, and so, again, as much as I don't want to buy into, like the instant, you know, gratification, lifestyle, like it's a nice thing that, hey, this is something that we provide, that you do see results pretty quick, see results quick.
18:58
Speaker 2: And so people are usually like, okay, this is working.
19:00
Speaker 2: I'm I'll stick it out.
19:01
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:01
Speaker 1: What else do they usually say?
19:02
Speaker 1: What are they like?
19:03
Speaker 2: I just feel better, more energy, yeah, getting better sleep better sleep quality, um, ton of energy, um, good motivation to see results in the gym.
19:12
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure you remember right, I think I've got a few years on you but um, early to mid twenties like you go to the gym for two weeks and it's like, oh, I see a difference.
19:20
Speaker 2: And now it you know I'm, I'm creeping on 40.
19:23
Speaker 2: It's like without HRT and then a ton of people coming in, like they go for three, four months.
19:28
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a difference.
19:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, yeah, I'm like, it's your arms are out of whack, man.
19:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally I.
19:32
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm 30, 35, so I'm not quite not too far behind over the midway.
19:38
Speaker 1: I'm not quite yet over the midway of the 30s, but um, no, I get, like I get soreness.
19:43
Speaker 1: Um, like I'm when I was in college, high school, like working out right like my doms, my muscle soreness.
19:49
Speaker 1: If I did a bunch of squats or bench like whatever, I would get sore by that night and next morning super sore.
19:55
Speaker 1: And now I don't get sore till like 48 hours later.
19:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super delayed.
20:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like this is weird.
20:01
Speaker 1: I did a huge workout yesterday and I'm like I really don't feel that sore like this.
20:05
Speaker 2: That's weird you know, do you know from like like?
20:07
Speaker 2: What mechanism is that like?
20:08
Speaker 2: Why does that happen as we age?
20:10
Speaker 2: I don't I would.
20:11
Speaker 1: So that's a good thought.
20:12
Speaker 1: Like number one, I I guess a little bit on Dom's delayed onset muscle soreness is what Dom's is for people that aren't familiar.
20:19
Speaker 1: But it's just like when you do a really hard workout, your muscles get sore and you're like, oh my gosh, like I'm super tight and sore.
20:24
Speaker 1: And they've done tons of studies on like, uh, what, why does it come about and what's happening?
20:30
Speaker 1: And then how can you minimize or mitigate the amount of soreness or speed up the soreness recovery?
20:35
Speaker 1: Because imagine, like an athlete who works out a bunch and they're like I got practice tomorrow but I'm like super sore and I can't get after it.
20:40
Speaker 1: Like when I practice as much as I want to, how can I like speed up this soreness process?
20:44
Speaker 1: Because I still need to work out, but I don't want to be super sore and affect my performance.
20:49
Speaker 1: So, anyway, there's a bunch of studies on that and the thought of being like what is, what is the actual mechanism?
20:54
Speaker 1: Before they were considering like it's breakdown, micro tearing of your muscle tissue, which has been found to not necessarily be the case.
21:01
Speaker 1: Okay, what they're finding is like it's definitely stressful for your muscles, totally right, um, but what the finding is like maybe, uh, just a lot of metabolites that get um affected within your muscle tissue and there's a bit because it's very stressful on you, not used to uh, stress, that's not being that they're not used to yeah, so there's a big influx and flood of immune cells and blood cells and healing, repairing cells, and those metabolites are in there doing work um after like an event of, like a super intense bout of exercise.
21:32
Speaker 2: So does that mean, because it's taking longer, our body's just moving slower.
21:35
Speaker 1: Exactly, I think there's like a slower turnover rate and metabolic rate in general Interesting.
21:40
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what my understanding is.
21:42
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense.
21:42
Speaker 1: Well, that'd be my hypothesis.
21:44
Speaker 1: If that's where the root is, then that's what my thoughts would be.
21:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, checks out.
21:48
Speaker 1: So then it's like okay, beat up this soreness process.
21:51
Speaker 1: Do I foam roll?
21:52
Speaker 1: Do I let cross ball?
21:52
Speaker 1: Do some self soft tissue?
21:54
Speaker 1: Do I stretch?
21:54
Speaker 1: Do I do dynamic stretching or static prolonged stretching?
21:57
Speaker 1: Do I just rest?
21:58
Speaker 1: And if it's like a buildup of metabolites, as is what they're thinking, then blood flow might just be the general best answer, which would be like non impact, low load, cyclical movements to create blood flow, which would be like a bike or like elliptical or swimming or something like that, to flush out all of the metabolites and reinvigorate the blood flow throughout the muscle tissue.
22:22
Speaker 2: So that would make sense then with the peptides, because that's like one of the major benefits is like reduced muscle soreness, reduced joint inflammation.
22:27
Speaker 2: Of course, inflammation is part of the process.
22:32
Speaker 1: Delayed onset muscle soreness, right, which we need, which we need, like I don't hate inflammation, we just got to keep keep it in check, you know in general, but anyway, yeah so the uh, but then the peptides.
22:42
Speaker 2: You know, it seems like it's it's maybe speeding up that process or alleviating a portion of that, which is, you know, if we're healing faster maybe.
22:49
Speaker 2: The thing I've noticed is like I still get sore sometimes, but it's's just not not ever as intense.
22:55
Speaker 2: Like have that intense leg day.
22:56
Speaker 2: It's always legs, right Legs always get us Um and I'm like, oh man, that was, that was rough.
23:02
Speaker 2: I'm going to, I'm gonna be hurt tomorrow.
23:03
Speaker 1: And I'm like well, I'm not too bad, Not bad, yeah, Do it Okay.
23:06
Speaker 1: And then the next day it's like oh, okay.
23:08
Speaker 1: Now I feel like yeah, no, but with the peptides man it's been.
23:18
Speaker 1: it's been cool, wild, like it really just kind of like next day I feel a little bit and then I'm good to go.
23:21
Speaker 1: Joint joints feel better, it's all good.
23:21
Speaker 1: The uh, the other one that.
23:22
Speaker 1: Well, there's this nutritionist I had been collaborating with for a little bit on like what's the best supplements to take for performance athletes, which is usually I want to get stronger, bigger muscles, I want to have better, more increased power.
23:33
Speaker 1: I want to have better, more increased power.
23:36
Speaker 1: I want to level up my strength, sure, get lean body mass and drop body fat percentage.
23:39
Speaker 1: Right, it's like, how do you do that?
23:41
Speaker 1: What's the best recipe and what she was suggesting for the supplements?
23:45
Speaker 1: Based on the research, the best recipe of supplements is uh, creatine monohydrate okay which is um like a fuel injector.
23:53
Speaker 1: Creatine kinase is the enzyme that's like.
23:55
Speaker 1: It stimulates energy within your muscle tissue and it's like a fuel injector.
23:59
Speaker 1: So more bioavailability of creatine is going to allow more muscle energy to be available.
24:04
Speaker 1: Cool and you can push through things when you're fatigued and not feeling it or you're random, as an example, because even in the Jimbo Bunch there's days where you're like I'm feel good, yeah, minute of the Jimbo bunch.
24:14
Speaker 1: There's days where you're like I'm feel good, I'm going to do an extra set.
24:15
Speaker 1: You can facilitate that on purpose Manufacture, like every day is like the good day.
24:19
Speaker 1: You know, um so creatine monohydrate, um beta alanine, which is supposed to be like a buffer to help decrease the amount of muscle burn when you're at the end range of your reps, like 15 reps, and you're you burning yeah beta alan is supposed to buffer that a little bit so you can continue at a high level even though you're reaching fatigue, and it's also been found to help with muscle soreness.
24:41
Speaker 1: Nice, so when I was taking that, I definitely felt a difference.
24:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, where I'm like I'm doing my work and I'm like fatiguing out, I'm like I can't finish, but I'm like I'm not burning.
24:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird yeah, there's like I can just do more sets.
24:52
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm good, but I'm like super fatigued and I'm like really pumped, like I'm.
24:56
Speaker 1: You know I'm, I'm burnt out, but I'm like not burning.
24:59
Speaker 1: It was weird.
25:00
Speaker 2: Well, there's a reason that both of those are in.
25:02
Speaker 2: Uh, all the pre-workouts, right, exactly, yeah, like that's and I'll get that in a second too.
25:06
Speaker 1: And then the other one was um, it's the building blocks of muscle tissue, and there's been plenty of studies on like crushing protein, like triple the amount of, like a high protein diet, yeah, which is two grams per kilogram of body weight, which would be like a high protein diet.
25:25
Speaker 1: You're saying tripling that, so like double, you know, like maybe adding a third on top of that I'm trying to calculate the 600 grams so it'd be like it's like two and a half or three grams per gram, which is very hard to do.
25:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when I was in college playing football, I was always like I need to get bigger, I need more mass, I need to get stronger, right, like I need to get bigger.
25:44
Speaker 1: You know, that was always.
25:45
Speaker 1: I need to gain weight.
25:46
Speaker 1: That was always the thing, right, because I'm a slender, tall dude.
25:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like you play football, you know.
25:50
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, yes, I do, I'm stronger than you think, I promise, but I was like a good player, but anyway, um, so crushing protein what they're suggesting in the research is like, um, if you, if you, crush a lots of protein and if you're like that's 220 pounds, there's 100 kilograms.
26:08
Speaker 1: Um, two grams per kilogram, right, that's a lot of protein, right?
26:14
Speaker 1: So, um, I mean, imagine trying to get 200 grams of protein a day, where 40 grams of protein is like a heavy protein shake.
26:24
Speaker 1: Right, that's only 40.
26:26
Speaker 1: Let's, let's round up, just for using numbers.
26:27
Speaker 1: Let's say, 50 grams of protein and one protein shake, or each meal, 50 grams.
26:32
Speaker 1: Five meals, you need five.
26:33
Speaker 1: That's not a small piece of protein of solid amount, like a lot of protein, yeah.
26:37
Speaker 1: So when I was like crushing work, trying to gain weight and stuff, I would be like have you ever, just always, you know, when you're really full it's, it doesn't feel good, oh, the hardest thing, so imagine being full all the time I had this conversation.
26:49
Speaker 1: I have to have another protein shake, the worst.
26:51
Speaker 2: I had this conversation with clients all the time, like gym clients, and I was really skinny in high school.
26:57
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm six, four, I was, I'm two, 45, right now I was.
27:01
Speaker 2: When I hit six, four, I was like one, 78.
27:04
Speaker 1: So we were very similar high school.
27:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so take, you know, whatever 60, 70 pounds off my frame now and that's what I looked like.
27:10
Speaker 2: Um and so, getting into college, like the summer between my freshman and sophomore year, I was like I'm gaining weight.
27:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:16
Speaker 2: This is it.
27:16
Speaker 2: I'm doing it.
27:17
Speaker 2: I had enough.
27:18
Speaker 2: I had gotten up to, like you know, maybe close to 200 pounds by that point.
27:21
Speaker 2: But I was eating.
27:23
Speaker 2: I saw, like some bodybuilder forum, it was like nine eggs and a sweet potato every morning for breakfast.
27:29
Speaker 2: Everybody.
27:39
Speaker 1: I talked to, I'm like it's harder to gain weight than it is to like if you're trying to force it and healthy weight.
27:42
Speaker 1: I'm like it's it's hard, it sucks, it's way harder than dieting, but yeah, it's it's.
27:44
Speaker 1: It's it's hard, but especially like in that and I just did a podcast on like youth athlete development and training, like emphasis and things to focus on Cause, like there's a comes to a point, like as especially as dudes, like we're not ready to put on muscle mass until our bodies are ready.
27:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we hit a maturation process where we have enough hormones and we're there yet to actually put on mass, which is like it's earlier and later for certain individuals, of course.
28:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, like jadavia and clowny in high school do was a grown man.
28:10
Speaker 1: I was a man among boys he was.
28:11
Speaker 2: I mean some of the people like us maybe, like it just takes longer you know, especially if you're tall, like you're, just you're you're probably more so than me because you got, you got some inches on me, but it's like I was just everybody's like, oh, jiv, gross.
28:23
Speaker 2: But it's like, no, I was just two inches a year from the time I was like 10 until I graduated high school just bump, bump, bump, so your body can't catch up.
28:31
Speaker 2: No, your body's putting all its resources to your you know, bones.
28:34
Speaker 2: And yeah, exactly, I'm like how do you, how do you keep up with weight there, you know?
28:37
Speaker 1: but anyway.
28:38
Speaker 1: So anybody listening to summarize that real quick like of youth athletes, like if you're not ready to put that on, I used to be in the same boat where I was like I'm gonna crush these proteins, I'm gonna eat pb and j I'm gonna eat all this chicken.
28:48
Speaker 1: Like I'm just gonna like gorge myself which I'm not even ready to put it on yet, anyway.
28:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, so skip that Eat.
28:56
Speaker 1: Appropriate, like you need to eat enough, totally.
28:57
Speaker 1: But main thing to focus on as a youth athlete, before you're ready to grow in size, is just crush movement control, coordination and your skills, skill development, movement coordination and movement control Absolutely those are the things that are the highest risk of injury for youth athletes, cause it's usually moving poorly and not coordinated fashion and then repetitively over a long, long period of time of thousands of reps, leads to like I don't know what my elbow hurt or my shoulder hurts, I don't know what my knee hurts, like what the heck's going on.
29:27
Speaker 1: So that's the things to focus on.
29:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was fortunate, um, in high school and growing up that I was.
29:33
Speaker 2: I was active year round.
29:34
Speaker 2: So all of the you know supporting muscle structures, that I wasn't training cause I was not training properly.
29:39
Speaker 2: I were strong enough that I wasn't injured.
29:41
Speaker 2: But like, looking back on it same thing I was like I was always so obsessed with in my mind you see, professional athletes, grown men, football players that have all these muscles You're like, all right, muscles equals athleticism, and so you know, I didn't have the education and nobody was coaching me on on how to train properly.
29:57
Speaker 2: So I equated bodybuilding with athletic performance and wishing I had had somebody to tell me like, like you said, one, um, you're not going to gain the muscle you want to gain because you're 16 years old.
30:08
Speaker 2: It's just not going to happen.
30:08
Speaker 2: Um and two, you should be focusing on strength and performance and that's ultimately what's going to translate.
30:16
Speaker 1: You're going to play.
30:16
Speaker 1: If you're a good player, you're going to play more.
30:19
Speaker 1: You get your skills down first.
30:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's been fun.
30:23
Speaker 2: Now that your kids are getting to that age, too where they're getting into sports oh, I can't wait, dude, it's the best.
30:29
Speaker 1: It's going to be tough.
30:30
Speaker 1: I'm like what kind of a dad am I going to be?
30:32
Speaker 1: Am I going to be the one that brings like med balls and kettlebells to the field and bands and be like, all right, here we go, we're going to get after it?
30:39
Speaker 1: Or, but even more chill, and, like you, lead the way and you tell me if you're interested.
30:49
Speaker 2: I don't know.
30:50
Speaker 2: I try to.
30:50
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer.
30:51
Speaker 2: I try to mix up the bit of both, but it's, it's nice with my son that I I recognize like I'm already planning to see this head like hey, like muscles, don't?
30:58
Speaker 2: He's into soccer.
30:59
Speaker 2: So the star soccer players, they're not like super huge guys, they're, they're all ripped, but um, like muscles don't equate to necessarily athleticism.
31:07
Speaker 2: There are some guys that look, you know, not in great shape, that are still fantastic at soccer and and ultimately it comes down to how you train totally um to further that point.
31:17
Speaker 1: I think I said this in my other podcast too.
31:18
Speaker 1: But like they were in college, on my college team football, there were weight room heroes, like they were beasts.
31:25
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they looked good, the best.
31:26
Speaker 1: They looked good, they were solid, they were you know, they were strong, yeah, but they didn't play yeah they weren't good players.
31:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're like that.
31:35
Speaker 1: People on the layman's like gp general population weren't athletes.
31:39
Speaker 1: They would be like why isn't that kid playing like he?
31:40
Speaker 1: Look up, look at the monster, look at this monster.
31:42
Speaker 1: I was like dude because he sucks he's just not a good player.
31:45
Speaker 1: You know like.
31:45
Speaker 1: So it doesn't equate, you know.
31:46
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm like.
31:48
Speaker 1: If you have the skills to begin with and you're a good player and you, you got the iq, you get the game.
31:52
Speaker 1: You know like.
31:52
Speaker 1: What's the goal of this game?
31:54
Speaker 1: Like my position and how can I bring value to the team and make myself more valuable?
31:59
Speaker 1: Movement control, movement coordination I'm a skilled player and then develop that and then, when you're ready, if you layer muscle on top of that, that's when you become like a you know, an a player you know, but vice versa, it's not gonna.
32:12
Speaker 1: It's not the equation.
32:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all my efforts in high school to put on muscle were in vain.
32:17
Speaker 2: You know, it's just like I was wasting my time.
32:18
Speaker 2: I should have been traded elsewhere and would have been, would have benefited a lot more from it.
32:21
Speaker 1: So how does your son Maddox right, how does he uh respond to the training and some insights that you have?
32:28
Speaker 1: He's super receptive.
32:29
Speaker 2: He's honestly fantastic.
32:30
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't ask for a better kid.
32:31
Speaker 2: Um, he, just he, he makes my life really easy as a dad.
32:34
Speaker 2: Like he, he looks up to me a lot and we have a really good relationship and, um, you know, it's a lot of pressure, though it's like I feel, like, you know, I know that I have to always uphold this, uphold this standard that he has of me.
32:44
Speaker 2: That's that in and of itself is a is a lot, but it's um, no, you know, anytime we're working on stuff, whether it's sports or just life stuff he's always like okay, yeah, I get that.
33:03
Speaker 1: I understand that.
33:04
Speaker 2: It's great.
33:04
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, that's.
33:06
Speaker 2: That would a lot easier than I thought it was going to be.
33:08
Speaker 1: That's okay, good, cool, let's move on there.
33:10
Speaker 1: There is some mentors and stuff for entrepreneurship and also like health and fitness and all that stuff that they're like the two things that are the biggest indicators for success and whatever goals someone wants to do.
33:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, level up, ascend.
33:24
Speaker 1: Whatever they're at is humility and then delayed gratification, yeah.
33:28
Speaker 1: So it sounds like he's got a little bit of a good sense of both of that humility.
33:31
Speaker 1: Be like I don't know everything and I want to.
33:33
Speaker 1: I want to learn, man, I'm here to absorb, yeah, and heed advice from you, know, um, and then put in the work and I know I'm not going to be great at whatever I'm trying right now, but it's going to pay off because I'm, if I don't be unreasonable to think if I didn't practice this I wouldn't be better weeks down the road.
33:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he, uh, it's some work on right.
33:52
Speaker 2: It's like you know it's a bit what, what, what?
33:54
Speaker 2: Nine year old kid, yeah, he, he wants to.
33:56
Speaker 2: He wants to be like, he wants to win every game.
33:58
Speaker 2: He wants to, you know, to score the winning goal.
34:01
Speaker 1: He wants to be the guy, it's great as in like.
34:03
Speaker 1: It's a different delayed gratification problem versus like.
34:06
Speaker 1: I want it now.
34:07
Speaker 1: We're like entitlement.
34:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely different.
34:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's, he's great, but that's tough.
34:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you do?
34:16
Speaker 1: What do you do for that?
34:16
Speaker 1: Like I want to be really good.
34:18
Speaker 1: I'm not really like I've had a bad game or like I don't see the results today from my practice session like WTF, right, what do you?
34:25
Speaker 1: What have you heard?
34:26
Speaker 2: I have kiddos.
34:26
Speaker 2: What's been great for me is pointing to his icons.
34:32
Speaker 2: Right, so he's big into soccer, so it's the messis and the um.
34:35
Speaker 2: What's the other guy?
34:37
Speaker 2: Ronaldo?
34:37
Speaker 2: It's not ronaldo, he's like his friends.
34:39
Speaker 2: All are like oh, ronaldo, if they like, if you like messy, you can't like ronaldo, so it's so, he likes messy I'm not I hate to say I'm not really a soccer guy.
34:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's, it's.
34:48
Speaker 1: Uh, I really played.
34:49
Speaker 2: I played a little bit of soccer growing up, but, um, my wife, she played d1, she played soccer um oh nice she's a soccer person, for sure, yeah, but anyway, sorry no, it's good, yeah, but I'll just point to them right, I'm like, look, do you think, like messy is so good and all these other guys that you, you know, admire, that play the professional level, are so good because they practice and they practice, and they practice and they practice and it's just non-stop.
35:12
Speaker 2: It's like all they think about they've made it this singular focus of their life, like that is the priority and everything else kind of around, that is, is secondary and you can still honor and take care of those other things, but they're, it's literally like you know, the, the girls and the, their generation's weird.
35:30
Speaker 2: They're like none of them care about girlfriends at all, which is great.
35:33
Speaker 2: It's all of his friends.
35:35
Speaker 2: They're all like, oh yeah, I'm always like messing with me.
35:38
Speaker 2: Who's your girlfriend?
35:39
Speaker 2: He got a crush on whatever, whatever, nobody.
35:41
Speaker 2: So, um, but long story short, like sorry, got sidetracked there.
35:45
Speaker 2: Long story short.
35:47
Speaker 2: Um, yeah, just pointing to like the people that he, he aspires to be like, like you understand how he got there, how that person got to where they are and that's, and that that seems to keep them, keep them engaged.
35:57
Speaker 1: That's good.
35:58
Speaker 1: What it's interesting?
35:59
Speaker 2: So girls aren't a distraction yet, yeah, okay cool, I'm sure you know the hormones get going.
36:04
Speaker 2: You know it started in teenage years.
36:05
Speaker 2: They will.
36:05
Speaker 2: But it's funny.
36:06
Speaker 2: We were talking with our friends about it and they're like, yeah, like none of the, none of the boys you know eight, nine, ten, eleven years old, it's literally like none of them have a girlfriend, none of them care about girls and all the girls I guess are boy crazy, which?
36:20
Speaker 2: is interesting, yeah, and the dynamic, yeah.
36:22
Speaker 2: Different from when I was growing up, that's for sure.
36:23
Speaker 2: It was the other way around.
36:25
Speaker 2: We were chasing the girls yeah, totally.
36:27
Speaker 1: It's like what, what am I doing wrong here?
36:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, um, well, that's yeah, and we'll bring it back to like health stuff, the well, just in general.
36:35
Speaker 1: Um, because the people we see right and I'm very similar to you guys Um, like, people are paying out of pocket to come see us, so they have to have an open mindset that they wouldn't be there unless they wanted to absorb and, like, take action.
36:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
36:49
Speaker 1: And and and, with some zeal, you know, like some enthusiasm of like what do I need to do?
36:53
Speaker 1: You know, um?
36:54
Speaker 1: Versus coming in and being like I know exactly what's going on and I know what I need to do, and it's like well then, why are you still hurt?
37:02
Speaker 1: Right, with the lack of humility.
37:04
Speaker 1: I really don't see it that often anymore, like in this facility, but I'd saw all the time on the previous clinic.
37:09
Speaker 2: You still see it every.
37:10
Speaker 1: yeah, a little bit, but anyway, just the open-mindedness and the humility to be like let me hear what you have to say, like I'm open to doing this and like, cool, I'm on board, like, let's, let's do it some of that I've realized, too, comes from um it's, it's almost a defense mechanism, right.
37:25
Speaker 2: Like they come in and they they're worried about being maybe like it's always the fear of like making the wrong decision, so they're worried about being talked into something that maybe is like they spend all this money on and it's not beneficial work.
37:36
Speaker 2: And I see all the time in our practice as well, it's like, oh well, I've, I've, I've done HRT in the past.
37:41
Speaker 2: Like I know this is exactly my protocol and like this is what I pay and this is what I want to do.
37:44
Speaker 2: Like okay, like I understand that.
37:47
Speaker 2: But if you want us to help know, kind of get down in the dirt and relate to those people you know what I mean Like get down, get to get on there and get down dirty with them, like talk person to person instead of keeping it this super like transactional conversation, you can kind of work through some of that.
38:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
38:05
Speaker 2: But that that's, a good point.
38:09
Speaker 1: The defensiveness, I guess, or just the, the, the barrier of getting more vulnerable, just like having legitimate conversations.
38:16
Speaker 1: I have some other thoughts on that too, One being like the people that I've worked with that were apprehensive to dive into a plan of care and they were like, well, how do I know it's not gonna, I'm not just gonna do all this stuff and spend all this time, money and not work.
38:30
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, we wouldn't have all of these five-star review, high five moments and all these people that are advocating for what we've been doing to help people, and you guys the same, if what we're doing was illegitimate.
38:42
Speaker 1: So then my question would be if we're very confident that what you have going on is X, y and Z right, like it's a rotator cuff pathology.
38:49
Speaker 1: You just have rotator cuff irritation.
38:50
Speaker 1: We got to fix your scapula, we got to fix these exercises.
38:53
Speaker 1: Don't F it up in the meantime and don't sleep on it and I'm very confident, as a healthy individual like you, that you will get better, your body will heal itself right.
39:02
Speaker 1: Like this is the, this is the protocol right.
39:04
Speaker 1: We have all this evidence and also research and past case scenarios that have been successful.
39:08
Speaker 1: The exact same thing.
39:09
Speaker 1: We're super confident it's going to work right, and they still don't really seem to dive into that.
39:14
Speaker 1: It seems to be a lack of confidence on their end that they're going to keep themselves accountable.
39:21
Speaker 1: So I'm like so this is an accountability issue, right Of like you're not.
39:27
Speaker 1: This is a support issue.
39:29
Speaker 1: This is not like the interventions won't work for you and you're an anomaly.
39:34
Speaker 1: This is a support issue, right?
39:36
Speaker 1: It sounds like you need support.
39:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
39:38
Speaker 1: Which is what we do Like we're going to hold your hand.
39:40
Speaker 1: I'm going to email you tomorrow.
39:42
Speaker 1: I'm going to email you next week.
39:43
Speaker 1: After I see you, I'm going to like we're going to follow up.
39:45
Speaker 1: It's great to make it fail proof, because it's not like this isn't going to work for you.
39:49
Speaker 1: You're not an anomaly.
39:51
Speaker 1: It sounds like you just need support, which is like almost a lack of belief in yourself that you're going to be like you're not going to follow through on.
39:58
Speaker 2: We'd see it in the gym all the time too, with with clients coming in that just you know, you could tell from day one they're like, they're not fully committed themselves to being there and being accountable.
40:08
Speaker 2: They don't trust themselves.
40:09
Speaker 2: They don't trust themselves and like and that and that instance.
40:12
Speaker 2: I understand where their reservation is, but it's like you gotta, at some point, you gotta make the decision to do it Just do it, just do it, and then we'll hold your hand.
40:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to follow up with you.
40:21
Speaker 1: Is that cool if I do that?
40:22
Speaker 1: Is it cool if I follow up with you tomorrow?
40:23
Speaker 1: Get permission, yep, I'm going to make sure.
40:25
Speaker 1: It's cool.
40:25
Speaker 1: I'm going to check in to see if you're okay and then you did your exercises and whatever you're doing, you know.
40:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just, yeah know, it's like I, I it's unfortunate because there are in every field right, your field, my field there are places that don't do a great job and so people don't have a good experience and they have reservations and it could.
40:54
Speaker 2: Actually it could be a completely different field.
40:55
Speaker 2: They could have never done physical therapy before, they could have never done hormone therapy before any of the diagnostics, and they're just weary of people, because there are people that don't do a great job and so it's like it carries over into every interaction percent.
41:07
Speaker 1: You know it's like one interaction they had in the same field yeah that correlates and like you're going to be the same, yeah, um, which is what totally understandable, you know.
41:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, um, the different, and I'm sure y'all are the same and I'm like if we just just try hard, like mentally, put some effort from us as practitioners, right, like if we just put some mental effort and critically think and try hard, we're going to be a breath of fresh air for a lot of individuals that we can actually get results for them.
41:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then number two like what if we actually had good attitudes and weren't like on the phone right Short and not helping people and then we were quick to leave and not having, you know, not being helpful?
41:48
Speaker 1: Just put an honest effort, put an honest effort in and try hard, yeah, and then it's going to be like we're going to be a breath of fresh air and people are like this is, this is like way different.
41:55
Speaker 1: You know, like what the heck you know yeah and so to.
41:58
Speaker 2: So, to take it a step further, the thing I found, as well as you have to, the other component of that is finding the people that appreciate that.
42:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, not everybody does, it's true.
42:06
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've had, you've had patients that just you do all the right things, you check all the boxes and you give them all the love and all the effort and they're just like oh, see you later.
42:15
Speaker 2: Cool, like yeah, what, like well, I thought we were good, yeah.
42:19
Speaker 1: I thought we just became best friends.
42:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, because this is definitely not the same.
42:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's cool.
42:23
Speaker 1: So I'm sure y'all do the same thing.
42:25
Speaker 1: I do, like investing and like, because I had, dude, I had a conversation with this guy recently.
42:31
Speaker 1: He was a patient and he didn't want to come back and I was asking him, like you know what was the problem?
42:37
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, what was the problem, you know.
42:39
Speaker 1: And I was like, do you feel better?
42:40
Speaker 1: Like, are you hurting worse?
42:41
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I feel great, like, actually, I feel better than when I came in.
42:47
Speaker 1: Like the treatment I think was spot on.
42:48
Speaker 1: I got a lot of value and information and stuff, um, but he just wasn't ready, um, to dive into a plan of care yet, you know, uh, because he was traveling and stuff.
42:56
Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, I was trying to convey to him like our reputation and the results we get for people is literally what we live and die off of.
43:07
Speaker 2: Yeah.
43:07
Speaker 1: Like that's the only thing we have.
43:08
Speaker 1: Like reputation is everything.
43:10
Speaker 1: It develops trust with everybody else.
43:11
Speaker 1: We're going to send word of mouth referrals and you're not going to send your family and your mom and dad to come see us unless you yourself had a great experience and you trust us, you know?
43:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was like our reputation and the results we get people is literally the number one thing that we live and die off of.
43:25
Speaker 1: So like if that that's what we focus, like that is our main success or failure, you know.
43:31
Speaker 2: It has to be and that's ultimately what it comes down to.
43:33
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you can have, you know, the latest technology and the you know the gadgets and all this stuff, but you gotta, you gotta have the people skills to make people feel seen and make them feel important and, uh, you know, make make them.
43:46
Speaker 2: Know you care.
43:46
Speaker 2: It's amazing how far that goes A hundred percent.
43:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, Um, so what?
43:50
Speaker 1: What?
43:50
Speaker 1: Wrapping this up, what would you want to convey to people in a summarized thing about the fountain and what y'all are going to do and what y'all do?
43:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we talked about the diagnostics a little bit.
44:01
Speaker 2: Right, getting this um, well, I guess we'd really dive into the individual components how much time we got.
44:06
Speaker 2: We're like five minutes, okay, yeah, um.
44:09
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we just, if we talk about the diagnostics a little bit, like the, the scan, I kind of told you what it's going to do.
44:14
Speaker 2: The um, the epigenetic testing is really cool, right, it's going to give you a snapshot of how fast you're aging today.
44:28
Speaker 1: Right?
44:28
Speaker 1: So are you aging at one year per year, 1.3 years per year 0.6 at that crazy guy.
44:30
Speaker 2: Hopefully 0.6, right, I don't know if any of us are there yet, but, um, and then what can you do to fix it?
44:36
Speaker 2: So, from this test, um, we include a uh, an appointment with our regenerative medicine specialist, dr Carter Carter, and he's going to go through the test with you and he's going to make recommendations.
44:47
Speaker 2: And again, we're not you know, you've been to our facility we're not the type to like hard sell you.
44:51
Speaker 2: You got to do this, got to do that.
44:51
Speaker 2: It's just like here's the information, here's what we're recommending.
44:54
Speaker 2: This is why you're going to really benefit from this, and if you want to move forward with us, here's how you do it.
44:59
Speaker 2: If you want to go check out somewhere else, you can go do that too.
45:03
Speaker 2: But that's that component.
45:06
Speaker 2: Then we have the genetic testing, which is I'm literally having to do seven days of posts to get all the information onto our story and create a highlight from it.
45:14
Speaker 2: I brought my phone just so I could tell you this.
45:17
Speaker 2: So the DNA test is going to look at mood and behavior.
45:22
Speaker 2: It's going to give you reports on mood and behavior, diet and nutrition, sleep hormones, fitness and body type, your inflammatory profile, your cardiovascular predispositions and your genetic longevity.
45:33
Speaker 2: Each one of those sections has like 10 different little mini reports.
45:38
Speaker 2: It's giving you so the mood and behavior.
45:39
Speaker 2: For example, is looking at your pre, your genetic predisposition for addiction, adhd, anxiety, burnout, whether you're more prone to empathical versus logical behavior, how prone you are to irritation and frustration, procrastination, thinking patterns and your neurotic tendencies.
45:56
Speaker 2: That's insane.
45:57
Speaker 2: That's one seventh of the report and each one of those sections has its own little mini report.
46:02
Speaker 2: So it's like that's so cool, it's super comprehensive.
46:05
Speaker 2: So we'll have, um, you can come in and just buy the testing right and do a quick like here's a summary report, we're going to chat with you for a few minutes.
46:13
Speaker 2: Or, if you're like, hey, I really want to take a course of action into really managing my wellness, we'll have different program options where people can come in and enroll with that and part of that will be a monthly review again of one of those.
46:28
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's a total of like 60 something mini reports that we're going to.
46:33
Speaker 2: We're going to kind of dive into one or two of those every month, develop a little game plan whether it's lifestyle supplementation, ivs, hormones, exosomes, whatever Cool and just kind of continue to refine, because we try to deliver all that information right out of the gate.
46:48
Speaker 2: It's overloaded.
46:49
Speaker 2: I was when we first started researching all this.
46:51
Speaker 2: I'm looking through the reports.
46:52
Speaker 2: It took me like six days just to get through like understanding what's included in the reports.
46:57
Speaker 2: It's so much information that's really cool.
47:00
Speaker 2: So that's the genetic stuff and then we have the blood work, which we're already doing.
47:04
Speaker 2: But I think the goal is like here's all the diagnostics, right MRI, epigenetic genetic blood work and it's going to give us a really clear look at either a specific area or your comprehensive system and then from there you can choose how aggressive or conservative you want to be in your treatment.
47:24
Speaker 2: We're going to be able to provide a lot of the solutions, especially on the hormone and longevity side, and if there's certain things that we don't provide a solution for, we're going to have a great resource for you to go out and start really attacking that area of your health.
47:37
Speaker 1: Cool.
47:37
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.
47:37
Speaker 1: That's really awesome.
47:38
Speaker 1: We'll have to dive in all in the genetic, genetic stuff about, like all the tests and stuff.
47:43
Speaker 1: Have you in again.
47:46
Speaker 2: We should get Dr Carter on here.
47:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally If you'd love to.
47:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a really cool guy.
47:49
Speaker 2: So he wrote a book on regenerative medicine.
47:52
Speaker 2: He's fellowship trained and just every time I talk to him it's like I love picking his brain and like he geekseks out about it.
48:00
Speaker 2: So he just dumps like all this information.
48:03
Speaker 2: I'm in five minutes and I'm just like my head's spinning.
48:05
Speaker 2: I need it.
48:05
Speaker 2: I need to go back to uh, you know, biology.
48:08
Speaker 1: Let me go back and process all this stuff.
48:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool, I'll definitely have it on.
48:11
Speaker 1: Have them on.
48:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll dive into all that stuff.
48:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be really cool.
48:14
Speaker 1: Well, thanks, man.
48:15
Speaker 1: What's the best way for people to reach out to you?
48:17
Speaker 2: uh, instagram at the fountain, wpb or they can.
48:21
Speaker 2: It's probably the best way message us directly.
48:22
Speaker 2: If they're not on there, call the direct line 561-320-3142.
48:28
Speaker 1: Cool, awesome, all right, well, we'll definitely dive in with Dr Carter next time and if you have any questions, definitely don't hesitate to reach out to Blake at the fountain or us if other physical therapy needs and stuff or other comments questions concerns conflicting opinions about the podcast, we're always open to.