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Brownell Landrum · Postcards to the Universe

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do
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  Speaker 1: you believe in magic? What if you were told that
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  Speaker 1: all you had to do was get a little creative
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  Speaker 1: and work a magic spell to bring anything you can
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  Speaker 1: imagine into your life. Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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  Speaker 1: we will share manifesting tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Melissa Capria.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa
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  Speaker 2: creating the life you crave. How are you guys doing
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  Speaker 2: on this Wednesday, February eighteenth, If you're joining me live,
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  Speaker 2: I hope everybody is doing well. And I know today
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  Speaker 2: is ash Wednesday, the start of Lents, So if you
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  Speaker 2: are practicing Catholic, I hope that this is a beautiful
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  Speaker 2: time for you today. I have Brown now Landrum and
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  Speaker 2: she is the founder of the Cosmic Wish Experiment and
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  Speaker 2: she's going to join me in just a few minutes.
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  Speaker 2: To my regulars, thank you so much for joining me
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  Speaker 2: each week. If you're new to my show, welcome. I
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  Speaker 2: hope you keep coming back each week. I try to well.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm not each week anymore. I was each week
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  Speaker 2: when I was radio only, but now video too. So
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  Speaker 2: I went down to the first and third Wednesday of
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  Speaker 2: every month, and I always have really really cool and
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  Speaker 2: interesting guests. I love to have these kind of conversations.
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  Speaker 2: They feed my soul. I just I love to see
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  Speaker 2: what other people are doing. And Brown now is doing
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  Speaker 2: some really cool things because she is doing things with wishes.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what Postcards is about, right, manifesting wishes in
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  Speaker 2: mine in a visual way with the postcards. Okay, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things. I'm really pushing my YouTube channel. If
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  Speaker 2: you're here, you're either watching me on Live on Times
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  Speaker 2: TV or you're watching on Postcards to the Universe on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: I have been doing short videos. I realized six days
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  Speaker 2: a week, three videos a day was non sustainable. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm going down to maybe one video a day for
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  Speaker 2: maybe four times a week because I just can't do
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  Speaker 2: anything else right, And so it's been but I love
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  Speaker 2: doing it. So I'm reading to row. I am creating
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  Speaker 2: my own Oracle deck. You can find all those videos
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  Speaker 2: over there. I do short videos. I try to keep
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  Speaker 2: them around ten minutes long because I know people are
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  Speaker 2: super busy. And then of course you can see all
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  Speaker 2: of my shows on there they'll be under the playlist,
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  Speaker 2: under the lives, you can see all the shows and
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  Speaker 2: see my guests and just for these this is for
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  Speaker 2: the people in South Florida. I am having a big
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  Speaker 2: opening of Friday, February twentieth, six to ten pm. If
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  Speaker 2: you're in the South Florida area, the show is Encore.
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  Speaker 2: There's twenty one artists. We're having an opening event and
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be so much fun. There's going to
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  Speaker 2: be your performance. So if you're an artist or you're
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  Speaker 2: interested in art and you live in the area, you
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  Speaker 2: can find all of that information out on my Instagram
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  Speaker 2: and my Facebook, and it's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fun. We did one last year that was the
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  Speaker 2: first one. This is the second one, and let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you something. We had like almost three hundred people
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  Speaker 2: come through. So it was a really really nice event.
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  Speaker 2: And the artists work, it's just amazing. And like I say,
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  Speaker 2: watch what the artists are doing. Artists, they're on the
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  Speaker 2: forefront of all of what's happening. So go and see
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  Speaker 2: what your local artists are doing. If you're not in
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  Speaker 2: the area, Okay, so let me get to my guest.
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  Speaker 2: Let me bring her on branew Landrum. She is the
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  Speaker 2: author of over a dozen books and screenplays, including the
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  Speaker 2: Art and Science of Wishing, The Hero's Playbook, and A
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  Speaker 2: Love Story to the Universe, which gives me chills when
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  Speaker 2: I hear that. She is also the founder of the
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  Speaker 2: Cosmic Wish Experiment, a global glap grassroots effort to elevate
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  Speaker 2: our collective conscious energy by using a simple, fun and
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  Speaker 2: free process to change the world based on solid science. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and you can find out more about her if you
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  Speaker 2: go to her website, which you'll find in the description
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  Speaker 2: Brunell Lanthrum dot com. Hello Brenell, thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got to start with your origin story,
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  Speaker 2: of course, right because what so you started in fiction, correct,
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  Speaker 2: So you like you were always an author? Were you
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  Speaker 2: always an author?
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  Speaker 3: Not really always? I read my first book actually was nonfiction,
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  Speaker 3: and that was almost twenty years ago, Okay, but I
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  Speaker 3: also had before that, I had like a career in
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  Speaker 3: corporate marketing for Coca Cola and Kodak and some you
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  Speaker 3: know companies.
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  Speaker 2: Kodak. Yeah, I still have film. I still have film
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  Speaker 2: in my refrigerator.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so yeah, so I but I wrote my
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  Speaker 3: first book is nonfiction. It's called Five Reasons Why Bad
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  Speaker 3: Things Happen. So when people say everything happens for a reason,
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  Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I wrote the book on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then I went into writing fiction, and then I
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  Speaker 3: got writing screenplays, and then I was writing a love
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  Speaker 3: story of the universe that you just mentioned, which is
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  Speaker 3: semi autobiographical.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, And that led me to where this.
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  Speaker 3: World that I'm in now, which is this world of
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  Speaker 3: wishing in my new book, I'm Wishing, so all kind
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  Speaker 3: of missing together. No.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. So because it is based in science
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  Speaker 2: a lot, I think science is kind of catching up
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  Speaker 2: with spirituality now I'm noticing that more and more, right,
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  Speaker 2: So I always say that, like, we're conscious co creators
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  Speaker 2: with the universe, and my way of doing it is
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  Speaker 2: through a visual component because I'm a fit, that's my background.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an artist, right of a visual artist, a photographer.
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  Speaker 2: So I wanted to use well, how can I use
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  Speaker 2: photography to help facilitate that in a fun and creative way.
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  Speaker 2: So I have people make a manifesting postcard, they send
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  Speaker 2: me their postcard, I photograph it, and so I kind
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  Speaker 2: of like help bring out that energy. And when their
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  Speaker 2: story whatever shows up and that they put in their
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  Speaker 2: postcard shows up in their reality, I share. I like
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  Speaker 2: to share the story, and that's what's in the book.
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  Speaker 2: So I have my book here and we'll.
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  Speaker 3: Show Yeah, which is amazing work. Yeah, I mean it
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  Speaker 3: pulls a lot of things together. And you know, as
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  Speaker 3: I started doing this research on the science, and I
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  Speaker 3: make it clear like I'm a storyteller, not a scientist, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so, but I started getting going down this
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  Speaker 3: rabbit hole, which I'll explain in a little bit, But
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  Speaker 3: what I was going to say as far as your
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  Speaker 3: work is there is probably a lot more science it's
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  Speaker 3: in it then you have even explored, and you probably
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  Speaker 3: support some of it. But it's some really interesting science
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  Speaker 3: that's connected to all of that. And and that's what
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  Speaker 3: got me really curious about this because I was writing
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  Speaker 3: this semi autobiographical novel, and you know, when you're writing
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  Speaker 3: a kind of a whimsical story, and it was kind
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  Speaker 3: of a magical realism world about wishes and wishing ands
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  Speaker 3: and how all that happens. And then one day I'm
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  Speaker 3: listening to a lecture on neuroplasticity and I'm like, is
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  Speaker 3: there science here? And that's what led me down this
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  Speaker 3: you know, huge rabbit hole of all these sciences. And
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize when I was starting out with this.
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  Speaker 3: You know, every time you make a wish, you engage
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  Speaker 3: over a dozen sciences.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, you share what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: There's probably a lot of scientific explanation that you that
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  Speaker 3: that you know that you may not have explored. So
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  Speaker 3: it's really fun to kind of consider all of that.
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  Speaker 3: I did not see how it all works together, like
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  Speaker 3: like what your connecting too in this outward world you know,
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  Speaker 3: and and look and from an insightful from a you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you know what the default mode
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  Speaker 3: network is, but when you're in a creative space, you're
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  Speaker 3: actually kind of ignoring reality and getting into this you know,
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  Speaker 3: very creative place, and that's kind of opening up that portal.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a scientific explanation for what we have often
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  Speaker 3: called spirituality. And like you said, science is all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden kind of catching up and going, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 3: let's do some research on this. There's some really interesting
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  Speaker 3: stuff there. So so yeah, I think what you're doing
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  Speaker 3: as I'm looking at it, just there's so much possibility
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  Speaker 3: of scientific explanations and science trying to explain, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to explain that and to define what that energy is.
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  Speaker 3: If that makes any sense at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, it does. And what's so interesting is I've
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  Speaker 2: had people who have put things on their postcards that
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  Speaker 2: have been an exact match to an image that they
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  Speaker 2: chose for what it was like a place a friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine who sent me many postcards, there was a
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  Speaker 2: place she wanted to go, a very very small town
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  Speaker 2: in Spain, and she had a picture of it and
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  Speaker 2: she ended up going there to do her dancing because
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  Speaker 2: she's a dancer, and it was it was just so wild.
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  Speaker 2: And I know somebody else who was manifesting a love
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  Speaker 2: interest and she put a photograph of her adult son
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  Speaker 2: at the time by her bed in her bedroom but
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  Speaker 2: it was in the little love area of her room
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  Speaker 2: and not realizing it, and then the man she attracted
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  Speaker 2: looked so much like the older version of her son
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  Speaker 2: who she ended up marrying. And it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're projecting these things into the ethers, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: ethereal realm, and it's being heard, it's being like I
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  Speaker 2: always look at it. I mean, I think Louise had said.
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  Speaker 2: Louise Hay said this. Think of it as like when
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  Speaker 2: you go to a restaurant, right, you place your order
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  Speaker 2: for dinner or lunch. You don't think about how it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna come at your table, right, It's just gonna come.
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  Speaker 2: You're not back there in the kitchen telling them what
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  Speaker 2: to do. You know, you have an expectation, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that's where we lose our way.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and what one of the things that I think
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  Speaker 3: you'll love and that I get to talk about in
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  Speaker 3: the book is and it's called The Art and Science
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  Speaker 3: of Wishing.
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  Speaker 2: Just a little yeah, show, yeah, show, Now hold it
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  Speaker 2: up a little bit for a second. Yeah, so people
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  Speaker 2: can see it the Art and Science of Wishing, which
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  Speaker 2: I love because I love and so.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a phenomena in there I call the that
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  Speaker 3: I coined this phrase, but I call it the blue
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  Speaker 3: balloon phenomen The blue balloon.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what is that?
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  Speaker 3: And that's like you're driving home and all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden you get this image of a blue balloon in
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  Speaker 3: your driveway. Yeah right, and then you come home and
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  Speaker 3: there's a blue balloon in your driveway. Yeah right. Well,
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  Speaker 3: what's the question is did you manifest that blue balloon, right.
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  Speaker 3: Were you precognitive that that blue balloon was going to
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  Speaker 3: be there? Was there? They call it retrocausality. Did there
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  Speaker 3: some way you looked in the past to be able
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  Speaker 3: to do that or was it your subconscious that already
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  Speaker 3: knew it was there, like it might have been nearby,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, and you just couldn't register that consciously.
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  Speaker 3: So there's there's four or five explanations for that blue balloon.
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  Speaker 2: M I love that.
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  Speaker 3: So you're looking at what you're talking about and you
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  Speaker 3: see a picture and you see that connection to something.
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  Speaker 3: Is that okay, that was part of your destiny to
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  Speaker 3: see that to you know, this is your I call
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  Speaker 3: it cosmic collaboration when it's like us working with this force.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And and so is it that it was part of
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  Speaker 3: your soul plan or your destiny to have to you know,
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  Speaker 3: have whatever that is, or is it you're getting help
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  Speaker 3: from some other source, or is it like your own
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  Speaker 3: psychology that tapping into stuff that you just weren't connected
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  Speaker 3: to before. So there's so many fun ways to look
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  Speaker 3: at it like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting. And I'm glad you said destiny because I
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  Speaker 2: think about that like Let's say there's something that you
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  Speaker 2: really want, right, you really wish for, But does that
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  Speaker 2: mean that it does align somewhere in your destiny line
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  Speaker 2: that it is going to the possibility of it being
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  Speaker 2: accessible is so great? And of course our free will
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  Speaker 2: is what dictates which way we go, right, that's what
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  Speaker 2: it is? Or or does that mean that it's not
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  Speaker 2: destined for you if it doesn't show up? And say
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  Speaker 2: this lifetime?
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  Speaker 3: You know you know what I mean? Yeah, I totally
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  Speaker 3: know what you mean, because you know there is the
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  Speaker 3: the fate versus free will right, right, And then there's
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  Speaker 3: also the question of the assistance from somewhere else right,
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  Speaker 3: so that you can And the way I look at it,
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  Speaker 3: and I talk about this in my first book and
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  Speaker 3: the Five Reasons Why book, is you know, we have
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  Speaker 3: the soul, the soul chooses the body come up right, right,
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  Speaker 3: and before we're born, we set up some kind of
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  Speaker 3: I look at it like a roadmap. Yeah, right, So
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  Speaker 3: it's not all completely laid out, but certain key intersections
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  Speaker 3: and certain key decisions are laid out. And then we
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  Speaker 3: come here and then we decide we're turning right or left?
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  Speaker 3: We're going straight? Are we sitting in an intersection of
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  Speaker 3: our whole life, right or are we And sometimes we
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  Speaker 3: can go high road or low road, right, and we
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  Speaker 3: can you know, make some not some good decisions and
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  Speaker 3: some other decisions. They're all going to lead us to
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  Speaker 3: a lesson and and and learning and then maybe we
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  Speaker 3: go off road. And also where is the role of
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  Speaker 3: I call it, you know, the traffic angels. I talk
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  Speaker 3: about that in my book as far as like how
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  Speaker 3: do you get an American woman in Colorado to meet
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  Speaker 3: a British man in Tunisia? Like there's some logistics involved, right,
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  Speaker 3: and so that that's all that that kind of dynamic up.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that wasn't destined before this lifetime, but maybe that
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  Speaker 3: was like, Okay, she needs this right now, we're going
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  Speaker 3: to intervene and add a road to that map that
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  Speaker 3: wasn't there right right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm a big believer in that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's fascinating to look at it that way.
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  Speaker 3: And then to answer your question about wishes and wishing,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to pull back a second and then come
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  Speaker 3: back to what you're talking about. Is I talk about
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  Speaker 3: the difference between a wish of prayer and a goal? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about that. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: d're you're coming with that? Okay? Yeah, tell us you.
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  Speaker 3: Keep that foundation, like, okay, what is right? And do
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  Speaker 3: you want to answer what you think? Or do you
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  Speaker 3: want me to? No? I want you to Okay. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to put you on the spot, but I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to see if you go, well, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's this because I would think that a
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  Speaker 2: wish and of prayer is sort of similar. I think
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  Speaker 2: a prayer kind of takes you responsible out of it
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, like you think God has all the
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  Speaker 2: contry or your angels or whoever you're praying to, and
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  Speaker 2: it's like you're asking almost for permission. I wish. I
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  Speaker 2: feel it's more about you. Imagine what it would be
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  Speaker 2: like you wish that this could be your life, your love,
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  Speaker 2: your house, whatever it is, and you don't really have
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  Speaker 2: as much of your outside. And then a goal is
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  Speaker 2: obviously to me more practical, right Like goals, we usually
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  Speaker 2: take the action steps to make whatever it is we
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  Speaker 2: want come into our life. So how how that close?
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  Speaker 2: Am I?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're very close. I think we're exactly on track.
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  Speaker 3: I'll just use a little bit different language. A goal
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  Speaker 3: is generally something in your control, got it, right, So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: say I'm going to lose ten pounds, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: take this trip, I'm going to get this job. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's not one hundred percent everything, but but
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  Speaker 3: it is something that you can set a plan and
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  Speaker 3: make it happen, right, right, Whereas a prayer is for
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  Speaker 3: something way out of your control, like I can't do
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  Speaker 3: anything about this thing happening. I'm just going to to
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  Speaker 3: release it to whatever that higher power energy, whatever that is.
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  Speaker 3: And the beauty of a wish is that it's somewhere
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  Speaker 3: in between. And so what the kind of learning that
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  Speaker 3: I found, Like I said, I wasn't a scientist and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not one when I wrote this, but is when
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  Speaker 3: you start learning about the science of wishing, you start
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  Speaker 3: turning your wish into what I call a cosmic wish.
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  Speaker 3: And the if you look at Merriam Webster at the
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  Speaker 3: definition of cosmic, right, the first word, the first part
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  Speaker 3: of the definition is universe and universal. Right. The second
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  Speaker 3: part is it gets into the spiritual or metaphysical right, right,
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  Speaker 3: that's the part outside of yourself.
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  Speaker 2: That's the right outside.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the last part is that it's comprehensive.
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  Speaker 3: So The premise is that the more you understand the science,
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  Speaker 3: the more you can bring your wishes in your control.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so you.
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  Speaker 3: Can start learning. For example, one of the things that
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  Speaker 3: just from a new science standpoint, it's called the reticular
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  Speaker 3: activating system. I don't know if you're familiar.
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  Speaker 2: No I'm not. I'm not, actually not, so to film
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  Speaker 2: me in. I love learning new things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's well, it's fascinating because what happens when you
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  Speaker 3: set a wish your brain, and especially if you repeat
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  Speaker 3: a wish and when you look at neuroplasticity, you have
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  Speaker 3: to repeat the wish, right yeah, yeah, And if you're
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  Speaker 3: looking at it from the point of view of like
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  Speaker 3: the upstairs and then somebody's making a different wish every
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  Speaker 3: five minutes and it change it every day, they're not
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  Speaker 3: sure what the focus.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, That's why that's why I mean the oracle
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  Speaker 2: cards are affirmations because you are saying it over and
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  Speaker 2: over and over. It's something that you are repeating. It's
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  Speaker 2: a repetitive so that you are getting in alignment with
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  Speaker 2: that which you want to be or have or whatever.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: And so what you're doing is activating the reticular activating system.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: And so what that is that's the part of your
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: brain that says, Okay, I'm going to solve that problem. Okay,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I'm going to find the answer to that. Yeah. So
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: you know, so, I know you. I saw your post
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: other day about about women and children and some of
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: the things that are happening. And without going down that
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: rabbit hole unless you want to, that is like somebody
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: could make a wish, I wish for a safer world
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: for women and children in this country or in this world. Right.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: And so once you do that, and especially that's what
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I want to do with this collective thing, is get
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: more people and more people to wish the same thing,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: you're going to start looking for ways you can do.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: That, right, right, I know exactly what you're talking about, right.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: And that's where your brain is going to be looking
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: for that and looking for those answers. I love the
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Mark Manson book. I don't know if you know his
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: book about the Subtle Heart of Not Giving a you
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: know what.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've heard of the title, okay, but I wasn't
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: aware of the author's name. Okay, Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Well, one of the quotes from that book I love
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: is that happiness is solving problems.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: You know, I have to agree in a way. Yeah,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: because I'm working out a challenge. I find that my energy,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I feel higher, my frequency is higher. I'm working something out.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You're right, you're exactly in your brain.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: It's because your brain is like, I'm gonna do this.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I'm going to solve this. I'm going to find solutions.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: So we said, yeah, I wish for world peace, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: we got a thousand people. Maybe the thousand people would write,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: or maybe peace in Ukraine write a letter to Putin
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: saying please, you know, give me their peace back, right,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: or whatever it is. You're going to start looking for
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: answers to that. You're going to look for ways to
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: get people to engage or for your brain engage if
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: you're talking about just an individual wish. So that's an example,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: right of how you can use the science behind it,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: which says the repetition is neuroplasticity. Your brain needs to
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: see it repetitively. And if you want to say the
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: spiritual component, they need to know that's what you want,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: so that they cosmic collaboratory, they.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Can like co they can help bring it for Well, well,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: that's funny that you say that I didn't know that's
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: what it was called because I was I haven't done
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: workshop in a while, but there is a workshop I
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: was doing where I have people take their phones, their
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: camera phones. Let's say you want to man manifest a relationship,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: a new romantic relationship. So what you do is on
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: you're out and about in your day, you just start
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: noticing anything that has to do with romance. So maybe
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: you pass a romantic restaurant, maybe you see a card
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: with hearts, and you photograph those things, right, people maybe
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: you know, without invading their space, maybe walking holding hands.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: You know, you start looking and what happens is is
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: because that's where you're wanting to be, you start noticing
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: all the love that you start to see around you.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Right, and you start feeling that energy, and you.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Start feeling that energy. Yeah, absolutely, that incredible.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: And then like when you another science anthropology, right, this
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: is what happens when you're making wish. Is that collective
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: wishing rituals have been a key driver of survival since
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the Donna humanity. I mean, people got together, they wished together,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: they made the right. Yes, I like to say that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: You know, Joan of Arc had a vision, Gandhi had
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: a Mantra and Martin Luther King had a dream, right,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: and that's all the same kind of like, let's set
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: this vision of this beautiful thing. This is what we're
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: going towards. So it's not about protesting against it's about looking.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Forward to something too, right.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And but and the anthropology of it is that
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: there's a ritual usually and that's what you're kind of
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: tapping into there is like I've got a wish circle starting,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: for example, in a couple of weeks. And the way
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: that there their ritual is going to be every time
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: you see a mirror, you're going to make your wish.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that isn't that beautiful?
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And it's about collective love, about more love in the world, right.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: That's kind of yeah really, and I love that you're
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: doing that because there is a few people that I've
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: been seeing that are having like at the same time
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: around the world. You just get quiet for five minutes,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: you collectively come together, no video, you don't have, you
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: could be anywhere, and you you send into the world.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: You're sending that energy. So as people, more and more
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: people are doing it, right, it's growing that what like
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you said, that what we want to see, we want
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: to see a more loving world. We want to see
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: people safe and happy and you know, and protected. So
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: if we start imagining it on a collective way, that
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: it makes it so much more powerful. That's why they
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: say if people who are parts of churches who have
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: said that someone when the congregation prays for somebody, like
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: they're all praying for one person and the power in that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: That's right, And so that collective intention. There's a lot
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: of interesting science. You know, some of it's frontier science,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: some of it is pretty solid stuff, right right, So yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: So that's the anthropology of it, is that there's a
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: history in it. And whether that's in our DNA and
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: makes it turns it into biology, I can't necessarily tell you,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: but there's some theory and there's some science that's being
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: studied just in terms of is it in our DNA,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: like is that part of who we are as physical
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: parts of our being? Right?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me because I know when the field
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: of epigenetics are starting to show that trauma people whose
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: grandparents maybe were in World War two, were in concentration camps,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: or you know, that there is something in the DNA
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that generations later there it's in their DNA even though
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: they never actually went through the experience, which is interesting.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it totally is. And I think one of the
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: things that like that you were talking about in your
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: in your talks recently is are you familiar with the
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: David Hawkins research.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: A little bit, A little bit, not a lot.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: But basically it's power versus force, And he says that
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: there's lower level energy and higher level energy. Yes, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: this is the force energy and this is the power energy.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: And so it goes from you know, the darkest stuff
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: all the way to the light. Well, what's happening a
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: lot in the world is we're being forced out into
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: this anger, despair, anger to spare. Yeah, right, we need
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: to go up here. We need to just transcend that
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and feel that love that you're talking about or whatever.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: That positive energy is, that that vision, that that dream,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: that wish, and that'll elevate us up here and we're
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: much more powerful up here.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: We're much more powerful.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: That's where the science also comes in. Right. So one
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: of the things I love about the whole idea of
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: wishes and wishing is that you can be super spiritual
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: or super religious, or you can be total skeptic and
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: just into science, and this pulls it all together. It
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: allows everybody to get right all the same thing.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Right out right right. Well, yeah, I mean, think about
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: all the ways we wish. You wish upon a shooting star,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: you wish when you blot out the candles on your
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: birthday cake, you throw a penny into a fountain, you're
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: throwing a wish. And that has nothing to do with spirituality.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That's just sort of ingrained in us, right, Like we
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: all have our imagination of the things that we wish
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: we had, or wish we could do, or you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: wish for others. So it's just I think human nature
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to have that right and and bringing it forward and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: showing people, well, you can do something with your wishes,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: you know, if you really want to, which is really cool.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: If you want to add some science to it, you're
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: going to improve your chances of getting you know, your wish.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: So it's to me, it's just really really fun. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: even like as you're saying the word where it wish,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: there's an energy to it. Yeah, it's not goal or
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: force or even prayer, right, It's yeah, it's true, which
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you know, it's just like and we say that word
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: so often, but we don't really think about the energy
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: of the word even fanatically, right itself, is a really
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: beautiful word, so.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: It to me.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: It just I started getting really really excited about it
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: as I started looking at the scientists and sciences and
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: you know, in the in my book, you know, I
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: cite over seventy different scientists. Wow, you know, so from
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: every possible discipline, you know, psychology, sociology, quantum physics, you know,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: all the realms.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: And well, I definitely think we should we should talk
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: about some of the science that you've that you have found.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: So let's do that. But before we do, I'm looking
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: at the clock. We're right at the time. We're about
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: to take our break. So let's take our break here,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and then when we come back, we'll get into the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: science and what you've discovered.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Four responses to the wish we'll do that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I would love to do that. All right,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: everybody's stay tuned and we will be back in just
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 2: we are talking about her the cosmic Wish Experiment. And
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: hold up your book one more time so people can see, Yes,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the art and science of wishing. Let's get into the science.
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  Speaker 2: So you have referenced over forty scientists. I love that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, seventy scientists.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Oh seventy I'm sorry, and it's right in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's actually seventy eight. I think I have, Yeah,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I have the nose right in front of me. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what I'm seeing. Forty yes, seventy eight. So
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: let's talk about So what did you like? Who did
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you start with?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: That's kind of an interesting thing. Actually, it was really
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: funny because, as I said, it started writing and when
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I was writing a novel, and you have to do
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: world building when you're writing, Yeah, sure, sure you know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: And then I'm like, and then sometimes when I can't sleep,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I listen to science lectures. There's this science channel on
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: YouTube that I listened to at night. I love that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: And so, and it's great because it's kind of so
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: complicated sometimes that my brain turns off, right, and that
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: helps me sleep.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: And who knows what you're absorbing in your subconscious right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to figure it out, you're just letting
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: it go, right.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. So, and so I was thinking,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: and then I'm thinking, like, is there science in this wishing?
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: So it just I got really really curious, and then
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I did. I was also learning AI at the time,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: so you know, full disclosure, I couldn't have done this
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: research without help from AI. Yeah, and I'm very clear
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: about that, like, yeah, I.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Have I believe that AI has place. I definitely do.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: And it's it kind of when film first came out,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: the painters went bersark and they said it was going
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to ruin painting, and AI is saying it's going to
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: ruin you know. I do think there will be some
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: regulations that have to come in, but I do think
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it has it has its place in us moving forward. Yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Right, And I you know, if you talked to me
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: a year ago, I've been like, oh no, no, no, no,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: And now I'm like, okay, yes, I mean I make
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: it very clear. I don't want it to write for me,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: right right, Okay, But the research and some of the
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: insights I mean, like I said, I would have taken
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: a team of dozens of researchers.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because imagine all the scientific books that are in
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: you know, and in the records of all that information
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: has already been scanned into AI. So I mean, obviously
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: you have got a broubble and triple check, but you
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: have a starting point, right right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: You definitely have to do a lot of checking. It's
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: not like point and click and it's done right.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of like, wait a minute.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: You just gave me an article about rat feces. What
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: does that have to do with me? Yeah?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Right, yes, of course.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Literally did that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, now you needed to know about rat f.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I can't believe we've done that anyway, And so I thought, well,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: let me this would be fun. And so I said, okay,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: a I do a round table discussion with some of
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: the like leaders that we know of, like in manifesting,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: whether it's you know, people from Brene Brown to Tony
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Robbins to deep Job.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, deepak Is we don't know about that.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: But the point at this point I was just like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: let me do a round table discussion and ask each
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: of them what they would say about wishing and a
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I came back with this really really clever dialogue between
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: these these experts different perspectives, right, One was a Buddhist teacher,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: one was a you know, very much into the science.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: And so that kind of led me to go, wait
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: a minute, let me start doing more research on it. Yeah,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: and I did. It is a framework that I set up, right,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: So I set up the wish prayer goal framework, right.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: It didn't. The research didn't come back and say, here's
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: what the answer is, here's what I how. I had
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: to define it right so I could get clear on
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: what a wish is and what a wish isn't. And
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: then I I also in my first book, I talk
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: about the three selves. You and I've touched on this.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Whether you want to call it conscious, subconscious, super conscious
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: or mind body spirit or you know, I use inner self,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: out her self, higher self, that that those are the
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: same things, right, those entities and that. But the psychology
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: part of that. I wanted to bring that in because
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: when you're asking me before about like, okay, are you
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: does that mean you're going to get this thing just
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: because you wished for it? Right? And that's kind of
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: this ultimate question. I remember Richard Bock was one of
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: the foundational writers for me in my spiritual exploration. And
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I do write this is very scientific. I do write
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: metaphysical novels, and so, yes.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I saw your I saw your metaphysical novels. They look
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: super interesting.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got one incarnation mystery and love story, you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: so I do get into that, and I'm I'm very clear,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: like you don't have to believe any of that stuff.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I love writing about it. I even say, it's like,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: you don't have to believe in time travel to like
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: back to the future.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Right, No, you don't have to believe in any of
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that too write to.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Still enjoy the story. Right, It's still great storytelling, and
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: so it it's It was really important though, to get
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: these kinds of frameworks and and then build around that,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: and so it was kind of like all these things
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I've ever studied in my whole life came together to
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: write this. So there is a part in the science
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: of the psychology of the subconscious and is the subconscious
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: in alignment with that wish?
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting thing to think about, is the subconscious
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and alignment with that wish. And I can think of
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: just off the top of my head where I can
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: say no for myself personally, and I can think of
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: other people that I know who tell me things that
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: they wish, but I speak to them enough and know
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: them well enough to know, no, youub conscious is not
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: in alignment with your wish.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: And that is a really important thing. So I go
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: through some activities in the book too, and the best
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: analogy I have for it is, you know, imagine you
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: see your neighbor walking their dog, right, and the dog
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: runs off. What do they usually do?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Well, they yell for the dog, scream and chase after
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the dog.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Right, that's right. But if instead of they go, hey,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: it's fun over here, the dog's gonna go, yes, we're here.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like you do the opposite of it, like
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: you know, oh, let's go get a treat. And then
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you get the dog stops and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: turns around you.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: And that's the dog is like our body, right, Our
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: body is our subconscious right.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Thinking of it like that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: That's what I first realized the body was the subconscious.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Like, but that's very helpful to think of it just
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: using your example of the dog, because you know what
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, Yeah, I like that.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: It's like that. That's how we want to work with
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: our body. We make it fun and there's science and fun.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: There's some really, oh for sure for sure, because I
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: know from the postcards that I have when I would
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: have the in house workshops and people would come and
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: do them, like everybody's real serious. And then once I
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: bring out all my stuff and I have all my
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: like the the you know, the glue and the glitter
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: and the pens and the magazines and the things and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the fun. It's like a whole bunch of kids all
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: of a sudden have just shown up right like they left.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: The adults are no longer in the room, and it's
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and you're in play. You're in and play and that
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: has a whole different energy and a.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Whole different energy, and it's science.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: And that it's science explained that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I know, you're using so much science
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: and what you're doing. Yeah, fun to have like a
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: little time where you go down and go, okay, let's
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: look at all the sciences.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be we should we should conn act
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: outside of hearing because we're doing very similar things just
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: in different ways.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I would love to I would love to have fun
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: with that. I think that's really really beautiful working and
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: it's just fun to look at it that way, right
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: and so so, and that's what it's true with our body.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: So if we want to have we're doing something, we
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: want to make it fun. And let's say, you know,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: let's say we have a big project and we've got
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to get it done. But are we're getting distracted? You know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: all these different things. But if we say to our body.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Look if you are, and I'm a big believer in
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: naming your.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Body that yeah, I have things that give names too,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: so I'm a big believer. And that also that's interesting.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Once you know her and he can talk to her
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: as a separate thing and go, what do you want
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: to do today? What do you want to eat? Then
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: they're gonna she or he depending it's going to cooperate,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: right and so and so you could say, look, okay,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: if we hunker down and get this thing done by noon,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: then I'll take you to play this afternoon. And the body, okay,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I'm focused on rights. True, it's the dog in the running,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: you know, it's the dog thing.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: So I do that with myself all the time. I'm like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: all right, if we just do this, then you can
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: have this later. Right, Like every time I go to
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: the dentist, because I have PTSD about the dentist, I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: get junk food after as a treat.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Right, And that's where your body is, like, okay, I'm
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: looking forward to this. And again, yes, the science of
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: the looking forward that you can put yourself into this place.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: And that was one of the things that was also interesting,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: and it's still really complicated in terms of science. But
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: is you need to be able to visualize your wish happening,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: but you also need to release it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, releasing that That that's very interesting because I
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: think releasing is the problem most people have that I
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: have found because I get the well, I you know,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I did this six months ago and it hasn't shown
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: up yet, like when is it going to show up?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: And how is it going to show up? And then
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: sometimes it shows up but not in the package you
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: imagined it to show up, and you shut that door, right,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you know, that's exactly right.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: So that's why the four responses are so important.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go into the four responses.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also have a really interesting activity that
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: gets into motivation and also wants versus needs. So there's
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of perspective on that
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: because you know, for example, I'll just get into the
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: wants versus needs a little bit. And you know, if
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: you know Star Wars, most people know Star Wars right
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: at begintting what did Luke want?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: You know, I haven't seen it since I was a kid.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I can't remember finding his father, knowing who his father was,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: or no.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Well, at the beginning, he just wanted to go on
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: adventure with his friends.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's so long and I only saw the first one,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: so I am not Okay.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Well, do you know the movie Legally Blonde? Yes? Okay,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: So what did she want at the beginning of that movie?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Well, she wanted to you know, go to college and
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: have fun, right.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: And she wanted to marry the boyfriend, right.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: And she wanted to marry the lawyer boyfriend who was
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: going to take care of her so she could live
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: the life she wanted right right. She found her so, but.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: What she needed was to find how she could stand
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: on her own and find her exactly right. What needed
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: is he needed to find his purpose. So we have
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: to also understand when our wishes may not be our
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: highest purpose. Right.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Mm, that's interesting. Our wishes may not be our highest purpose.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and maybe what we want but not necessarily.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: What we need, Okay, right?
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Interesting?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, because I.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Don't tell her it's fine.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think most people would realize that because they
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: would think, well, I do need that, and I want that,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: and I do need that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Right. But there all of a sudden, when you realize
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: you go pull back and especially from a storytelling standpoint.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: From a movie. If you look at almost any movie,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: you know, it starts out with the hero wanting something
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: that isn't what they end up wanting at the.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: End exactly exactly right, Yeah, and.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean obviously there are they call them
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: negative character arcs where they bad and you know, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: the endings are when they like they thought they wanted this,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: but they ended up wanting something else, right, and they
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: really needed that other thing that got them, you.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Know, rolling stones.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: You can't always get what you want, and so that's
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: an important aspect, right when you're looking at what you want.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: And I also have this thing I call the motivation matrix,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: and you can kind of imagine probably open up the
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: page to it, but it's if you can imagine four
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: square grid, right, and so there's two rows and two columns. Okay, want,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: don't want, half don't have. Okay, so you've got one
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: quadrant want and have. Okay, we don't spend enough time
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: on appreciating the things we want that we have, right,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: That's definitely true, right, and the universe needs to know that,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: right needs absolutely. I treasure this. I'm this is something
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I want to nurture and appreciate, right. And then there's
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: don't want and have, and those are the things we
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: need to start looking at eliminating right right. And then
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: below that is want don't have, and that's where we
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: spend all our time focusing on all the things we
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: want that we don't have, and that takes us out
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: of our enjoyment of the now a lot of time. Yeah, right, So,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: and then the last quadrant is something we never look at,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: which is the don't want, don't have. But that's where
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: the subconscious kind of comes in and goes if you
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: want to let's say you want some you're wishing for
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: a particular job, and you're not even taken into account
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: that might make you move, or that might make you
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: so busy you can't go to your kids ballgames or right,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: whatever that is. And so there's some want don't have
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: that you're that you don't even think about that you
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: might be picking up and your subconscious might know, yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: or you really want that because that's going to cause
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: these other things that you.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Don't Yeah, that's a good. Yeah, I see how you're
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: looking at. I always think of it as like I
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: always say to people, will it's not the divine timing.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I always say it's divine timing because if you got
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: this now, it would affect all these other things in
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: your life. And I don't know if you're ready to
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: put that aside. So that doesn't mean it's not coming.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: It just isn't coming yet. So like you know, well,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I always call it divine time.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Responses, right, So it's yes, you get your wish, and
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: sometimes getting your wish isn't isn't Oh? Oh I know happy?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I know. I have been there, believe me,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: asking for something and then getting it and going, whoa,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I was not clear on this at.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: All, that's right, you know, And just so you or
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: or it's like, okay, you wish for that maserati in
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: your front driveway and then all of a sudden you're like,
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: but the neighbor gets the newer one the following week,
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: and and it doesn't have that panash anymore, Like why
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: did you really want that?
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Did you want it for the right reasons? Or you
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: get a speeding ticket the next day? Right, yeah, exactly
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: and so so so but yes, so sometimes yes it's good.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: So you know, it's not always not good, but sometimes
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: it's not good, and sometimes it's good. No. Sometimes no
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: is just more information.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: It's just like and these are the foreign responses, right
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: respond to these are so the yes is the direct fulfillment.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: No is sometimes because they intell the greater intelligence knows
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: more then we know.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: You know. That's right, that's right, that's right. And it
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: might just mean we need more information before we can
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: get this thing, or it's it's you know, it's not
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: an ending, it's just it's just a guidance right to
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: getting a player on what we do want. Wait is
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: kind of what you're talking about. As far as the timing,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: it might be like this isn't the time, and sometimes
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: that's you're not ready. You need to do some things before.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's a big one. Yes, Yes, that's a big one.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: And I see that a lot with people who are
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: asking for relationships. And I think you need to be
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: alone for a bit. You you don't want to attract
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: that right now, Like, but I'm not you, so I can't,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Like I have to be careful how I say it,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: But it's so obvious to you when you're outside of it.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: To the person who's like, no, you need to do
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: some work here before, who you say you want, can
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: you can meet them? Because that's the other thing. You're
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: not at that level about who you're asking.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: For, right, that's exactly right. So maybe it's your readiness, like, Okay,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: there are ten things you have to do and you've
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: only done two and until you go to ten, it's
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: not going to happen exactly right. And or it can
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: be the universe or if it's manifesting a particular person,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: that person isn't ready, right, Yeah, like I did. I
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: did an LBL a few weeks ago, a life between
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Lives regression where somebody took me to the between.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Oh I don't think I'm familiar with lb LS A
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: life between lives. Oh that sounds very cool.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: It is very cool. So I got to the other
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: side and I'm having a conversation with somebody's higher self
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: and there and the answer was be patient and have grace,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: and so that was really an interesting kind of response.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: So sometimes it's not you know, if it's wishing for
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: a specific person, then they've got timing to deal with.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: If it's the universe isn't ready, Like I know you
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: talked about that in in your post from yesterday. In
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: terms of you know all these changes that were happening,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: the things that were going on. Some of that is
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: maybe part of a big plan, but some of it
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: is waiting to see if we're ready for.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: That world too, right, right, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah yeah.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And then the last one is something better.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Something better? Right, something better. I'm so glad you said that,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: because I think I say that to people too, like, Okay,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: so you had this, it didn't work out. That's what
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: you thought it was going to be, But that's because
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: there's something better that is coming that's meant for you.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: That's why this didn't work out, right, Can you can
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: you try to look at it like that? And then
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: when you're in something I know it's harder, but to
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: kind of try to take yourself out of it and
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: look at it from that perspective, right.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Well, right, And one of the concepts that I propose,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: and again this is me stealing from myself from previous
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: things that I written, but is and then it was
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: fun kind of doing some science study on like, okay,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: is this concept helped me find the science behind it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: So some of the writing of the book was that.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: But I call it reverse optimism, And that's when you
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: can look back and go, ah, now I know why
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: that didn't happen that way. Oh, this had to happen,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: This had to happen. This is like you know, the
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Garth Brooks. Thanks, thanks, thank God for unanswered prayers.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Right yes, right, yeah.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Thank god this didn't happen. That this so much And
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: now I realized maybe I was being protected from something.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: That was exactly exactly And.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Then God, in sad reverse optimism, then you can have
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: and you have enough experience with that in your own world,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: then when you're wishing, you can go, okay, I feel
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: strong enough. Albert Bandura, who's one of my favorite person
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: people to research, he was a psychologist at Stanford and
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: he talks about self effica see, and then when you
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: realize this, it's like and part of the research on
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: it was believing that you have the believing things happen
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: for a reason and empower you with self eficcy and
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: therefore you have more strength to handle what happens. Yeah,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: if that makes sense, right.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: It does. I'm a big proponent of things happen for
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: a reason.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so and so it's and then when you
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: look back, you can go okay, now I get that
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: when you're dealing with the next quote crisis, you can go, Okay,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: maybe this is guiding me somewhere, you know, like the
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: five reasons why bad things happen. The thing that they
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: all have in common is to get you to change something. Right,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: So if your wish isn't is in the way of
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the change that you need, then maybe something better is
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: the thing once you get to that change. So anyway,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: that's that's no.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I love it. So tell people now in the book,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: how do you break it down? Do you have exercises
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: at the end of your chapter, like how did how
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: do will people look at the How do you have
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the book laid out?
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I have it. I have a few different things.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: First of all, I have I have the book and
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: it it gives there are some activities. I'm working on
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: another one that has more activities. So you can go, okay,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: here's how to apply this, here's how to apply this.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: There are also a lot of great discussion questions. If
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: somebody's doing a book club, you know, like okay, like
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: you and I could probably have you know, a year's
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: worth of content just to asking the questions.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Right, just asking questions exactly.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like okay, wait, a minute, what about this? And so,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: so there's that, and then there's the Cosmic Wish Experiment,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: which is where people start wish circles what I call
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: a wish circle.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you're starting one soon. Where are you
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: going to be doing that? Is it on Facebook? Are
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: you doing it remotely? How can people join it?
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: How does that work?
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah? If you go to Cosmic Wish Experiment dot com
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: and you'll see there's a place to join a wish circle.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: So there's that have been they've been started by other people.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: So i'm I'm, I'm. My big thing is that I'm
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: screening the wishes to make sure they're peaceful, positive, and purposeful.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: I call those three piece and there's science behind the
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: three piece, right and so and so anybody can start one,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: and then you invite people. They all have a Facebook
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: group just in case there's questions. And then when you
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: join that, it's all free, like I said, and it's
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: really fun and there's little fun activity. So you and
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: it's because of neuroplasticity. It's an eight week process. So
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: basically you're saying the same wish one minute a day
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: for eight weeks. Wow. Right, And then there's a weekly
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: activity that takes about twenty minutes and it's really fun.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, so you're inviting, just so I'm clear, people
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  Speaker 2: to facilitate their own wish circles, and now you are
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: just checking in, overseeing, but you aren't the facilitator. You
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: want your asking for us as a community and a
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: collect like, Hey, let's do you want to do a
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: wish circle? I'll oversee make sure you know all the
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: r rules are rules are, rules are applied, but it's
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: your wish circle that's right, and then I'm here to
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: support you. Oh okay, that's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: And so like your post about the women and children
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: like I wish for a safer world for women children,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: that could be a beautiful wish circle that people could
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: get to and then we could see, can we invite
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: some of these high level people to maybe join that
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: wish circle and invite their communities to do it, and
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: think of the power we could have to elevate that
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: energy like I said up here. Wow, So yeah, I've
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: got one that's doing it about basically about love energy,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: and another one doing for animals and I wish for
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: a happier place for animals. So and so it's but
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: you download a plate of what I call the playbook,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Cosmic Wish playbook that's free for everybody, okay, and that's
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: got a lot of other activities that help you, like
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: the want versus need and that matrix thing I mentioned.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Those little activities are thrown in there as well of that.
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  Speaker 3: And then I've got like, you know, somebody starts when
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: they said, browniell we want you on there. Can we
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: do a video explaining great? I also have other videos
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  Speaker 3: I've done explaining the activities I designed them for that
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: part of ourselves that likes it to be fun. And
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: like there's Teddy Bears and Merchin you.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, of course, and everything the merch.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Isn't free, and my book isn't free, but everything else
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: is free, and everything else is and everything that's not
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: free is optional. Right, you don't have and you can program.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: I think I lost you. I don't know if you're
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: still with No.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: That was weird.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: That was weird.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Anyway, we're wrapping up pretty soon.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Go up.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: But you can find a whole all of your books
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: are on your website.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: There on my website and also of course on Amazon
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: and other.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all your fiction stories, so if you want to
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: go down that magical I love magical, you know all
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: that magical stuff, so it is totally up my alley.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: So you can find all that out. But you know
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: what I was thinking right now, we should do something
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: together with in the postcards. We really should because with
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: their wish circles and having people can create postcards and stuff.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I would love it too because I'm like, I'm feeling
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I've already started feeling this new fire horse energy and
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to kind of go again.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Like you can share on your lessons within this, right,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: because yeah, giving the framework to make your wish stronger,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: the lesson of what your wishes is yours?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and then you know you get to tap
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: into your creative side about it, right, Like you get
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: to be creative too, so.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: That that would be really incredible.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll talk offline and we'll get well, well
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: we'll come up with something. But it has been such
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: a pleasure. I think we have like a minute and
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: so we're I don't know, we got cut off. So
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: it threw me off. That was so weird. It's just
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: like we just like and we which sides I know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: But you can find out more about Brown Now if
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: you go to her website brown Now, Landrum L A
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  Speaker 2: N D R U M dot com and all of
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: her information is on there. And yeah, if anybody has
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: any questions, they can reach out to you. And I
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: know they can find you on your socials too, So
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: if anybody wants to to reach out and be a
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: part of a wish circle and create a wish circle,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: now we need it, we really really really That's why.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I did it.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: That's why it's been anything you want to leave us with,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: just a little just.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: That, I wish you everyone define their wishes and and
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: and elevate me too.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Me too, right, let's wish. Let's wish a better world
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: than to exist this wish that? Yes, yeah, okay, everybody,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening to Postcards to the
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Universe with Melissa creating the life you crave. And I'm
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: wishing everyone a wonderful week filled with joy, abundance and love.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Peace.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Bye b