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Where the Streets Have No Flame · That Car Show

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But I don't know why the double D's.
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I feel like there's a joke in there somewhere.
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They write them down. Right now, this week on that car
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show, we go crazy for defenders in the desert.
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Lindsay teaches a Subaru Forest or Wilderness a thing or two.
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I go trail hunting in the Toyota 4 Runner, Trail Hunter and Dan
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goes where the streets have no name and the Joshua trees are
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cheap. All that plus more Mustang GTDS,
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some double DS, and even some Tesla news.
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It's that car show. Hey folks, welcome to this
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week's That Car show. The original car show and quote
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of the week is imitation is the best form of flattery and I
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won't say any more than that. But welcome to Lindsay and Ryan.
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We're back for another cruise show.
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Firstly, I wanted to give you guys a hat tip because of the
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scoop of getting the Masked Singer.
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Well, almost The Masked Singer. It was Los Angeles Death Highway
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Creator, which I don't think any of the podcasters have that
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gentleman. I'm assuming it's a gentleman
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who knows. According to the voice
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disguiser. But you know, AI is getting
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pretty good these days. So there was one other podcast
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that he was on probably in the last year called What's Up
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Player. And otherwise, we're the only
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ones. And that, that was a really fun,
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very unique recording experience, wouldn't you say,
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Ryan? It was it was, but really
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enjoyed that one. Have had a lot of great
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feedback. A lot of people know of the
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account other people didn't. Now do I mean, he's, he's kind
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of a kind of a genius, right? I know.
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Talking about back. Recognizing, you know, a need
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and filling the void. But I mean, and he was so nice
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like. He's great.
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He's. So nice to chat with such an
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interesting conversation. You you go back and you rewatch
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those and you see stuff you missed the first couple of
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times, right, right. And it is the details.
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It's the name of the place on the sign.
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It's the, you know, just the way, you know, I don't know the,
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the, the shoes someone has on. I mean it's just it's, it's so
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good. It's so.
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Good. So many Easter eggs on there.
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If you've not seen his account, it's Los Angeles Death Highway.
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Just Angeles. Angeles Death Highway.
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Angeles Death Highway and he uses AI to basically bring car
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culture to life in in California and also car culture that's not
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afraid to take the piss out of each other.
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So it's really, really good. And our episode was great.
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So if you, if you haven't listened to that one, recommend
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you listen to it and the feedback we've had from last
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week's episode, where do we start?
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What a guy. Yeah, it was the common theme
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was like the posts on Instagram was he's such a nice guy, he's
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such a nice guy. You've got a great guy there.
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So yeah, it's. We thank him again for joining
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us last week. That's right, got to have him
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back in time too. Yeah, that wasn't that was an
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interesting conversation. I mean, what a unique
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collection. Like there's he's the one of one
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really well, and I have to say the Last Post or I think Johnny
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posted a screenshot from one of the Angela's Death Highway
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videos. I think the Malibu 1 and I
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looked at the screenshot and I'm like, I have that picture in
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real life of like Spike and Jerry and Johnny and Matt and
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everybody just milling around talking like right in front of
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the porch at Malibu Kitchen. I was like Yep I have a version
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of that picture but mine is real.
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Have we ever seen you and ADH in the same room, Lindsay?
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I don't know. We have not.
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And if they were both on the podcast?
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I. Know again AI is getting really
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good. Really good.
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It was interesting. The latest one with starts with
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Leno driving through. There's a bit of a hat tip to
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the old place and it's basically if you're not going to buy food,
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have sex. Really.
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And. I'll say I was up there a couple
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of weeks ago and whilst I appreciate that there were
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probably a lot of people that were going to that location,
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it's a location up in the hills above Malibu and probably not
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buying food and drink and it's, it's a business.
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We went there and the Maitre-d' was very unfriendly and
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unwelcoming and we just wanted to buy a drink but we wanted to
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give them business so. Right.
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Yeah, they they got it spot on. They got it spot on.
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Now I want to talk about Lindsay.
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Lindsay, you represented both yourself and the podcast at an
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industry event, I think it was last week.
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What was that? On Thursday.
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So Avance has done. This is the second year in a row
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now during women's Month, they do a women's panel at the it's
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called the One Drivers Club. It's a car storage and social
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club in Seattle. And you, Dan and I have been
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there and they put together a panel of women in the industry
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last year. I knew a couple of the people
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and I offhandedly said to Chrissy, who was the Avant
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Seattle director and is now the national director.
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I said, all right, this is my motivation.
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I'm going to work really hard. So I get invited to be on the
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panel this year. And lo and behold, I was asked
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to be one of the panelists. So it was a really diverse group
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of women. I was there, you know, like you
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said, Dan, representing us, the show and myself and just they
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wanted women to come and share their stories of their path
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through the Automotive World. And the gal next to me owns two
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of the well known Porsche shops here.
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And she's actually from Ukraine and left during the war, came
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here, bought one shop, has built that up and then bought a second
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shop. And then the gal on the other
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side of me was kind of trying to figure out what her next move
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was. She'd had a baby and wanted to
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be an automotive. She went through the
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certification process for Steck and she's now like a master PPF
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rap technician. And then the gal on the other
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side of her is a she's an instructor at Performance, which
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is the high performance driving school and race school that I
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started driving at. So that was really cool.
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And then our last but not least panelist was the gal that owns
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the Pacific Raceway is where Performance is.
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It's a good company. It was.
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Sounds like we don't have some future guests.
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Exactly. Can we find this recording
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somewhere? It was not recorded, but I have
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some videos that I will probably share.
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And I have a lot of still pictures.
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And Tori managed to catch a lot of like Blueberry, very funny
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shots of all of us. It was a really cool group of
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panelists. Shabby, who's now the Seattle
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director. She succeeded Chrissy and she
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and Chrissy Co hosted and there were probably 50 people and
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there were a lot more like men were there too this year in the
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audience, which was cool to see. So it was really great group.
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We had an interesting discussion.
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Everybody has a really unique story and totally different
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paths, but a lot of good advice. Yeah, Excellent, excellent.
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I should probably explain. I didn't explain in the
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beginning. Ryan is currently on location in
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Santa Fe, is that right Ryan? That's right.
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That's right. Santa Fe, as they say, it's
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like, you know, 1, you know. The emphasis is on.
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Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, you know. And the reason that he's in
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Santa Fe is potentially because he's on vacation, but the real
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reason was that he begged Toyota to borrow a car and they said
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only if you give it a proper Rd. test.
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So you have more than 7 hours, Is that right?
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Yes, after that glowing GR Corolla review that I did, you
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know, I, I, I feel like I'm probably good for a while and
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and this is a very different car.
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So this is the top of the line 4 runner, current 4 runner.
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It's called the trail hunter and I had driven the Tacoma, the
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Taco version at an event about a year ago and really kind of fell
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in love with it. It's really unique in that it is
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a forerunner that needs nothing out the door to to go over
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landing to go off roading. And it's unique in that it's got
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aftermarket parts from the factory right.
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So it's got ARB rack. It's got a steel bumper in the
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back. It's got old man emu suspension
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parts. It's got rigid lighting in the
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front. The wheels are probably it's got
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these beautiful bronze wheels, which are probably aftermarket
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as well. And it it has the I guess the
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standard on the trail hunter optional and a couple of the
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lesser trims. I don't know what the the name
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is, but it's basically this mild hybrid with a with a turbo.
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It's a 4 cylinder and it makes about 330 out of horsepower and
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I think 450 some pound feet of torque.
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And the most amazing things, it's got a snorkel from the
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factory that makes all the pops whistles and you know, whatever
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sounds you want going down the road.
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It's kind of a love it or hate it proposition.
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I love it because I'm just a big child and I've got the windows
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down and you know, my wife, not a big fan daughter, somewhere in
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between. Great capable car.
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We tried to find some trails today down here in Santa Fe.
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That would be a challenge. Couldn't find any.
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It is just it's so capable. It just rolls through or rolls
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over everything. And people love this thing.
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It's this sort of blue-green with these bronze or gold
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accents. I've had more people come up to
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me to ask me about it, to say, hey, cool car, you know, waves
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from other forerunners. I heard from a couple people
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it's their dream car. So it's not my dream car.
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Wow. And I wouldn't want to it.
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It's a thing. It's it's a vibe.
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I wouldn't want to drive the thing every day.
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But I could see someone who had a daily driver, much like we
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have Porsches for the weekend, right?
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This would be their weekend car. It's maybe not so practical
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day-to-day, but hell of a thing. Lots of little Easter eggs,
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little, you know, little hidden things like a Bluetooth speaker
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that pops out of the dash, a JBL speaker that's always charged.
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You've got stereo controls in the back.
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There's an air compressor on board.
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It's a hell of a thing. I feel very at home in it here
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in Santa Fe. I feel like, you know, I, I
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belong, right? You're.
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You're properly kitted out. Yeah, yeah, So I'm, I'm it's
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growing on me for sure. Much like other Toyota products,
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right? You get in sometimes things with
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old school whatever, but like the GR Corolla, by the time I
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had to give it up, I wanted one. And I have a feeling it's going
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to be the same thing with this thing.
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So interesting. People who have not been to
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Santa Fe, what is the terrain and what is the Is it a desert?
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Is it mountain? Yeah, it's interesting.
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I think it's at about 65 or 6800 feet where we are.
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So it's quite a bit higher than even say, Denver, right?
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It's it's unseasonably warm here, much like Denver.
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I think it was in the low 80s today.
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And they also, much like Colorado, didn't get a lot of
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snow this winter. And so, you know, creeks and
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rivers are a little low, things are a little brown, but yeah,
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like the trees are flowering and all this.
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So I would say it's high desert, I think is what they call it.
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It is not as severe a terrain as say, like the Rockies in
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Colorado for the most part. But it's really beautiful.
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You know, you've got talpine forests and this and that.
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It's kind of rolling where we are.
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And it's. Yeah, I'm I'm sure there are
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some trails here that could give the 4 runner a run for its
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money, but we have. We've got a few more days to
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find your report back. That's right.
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That's right. So what does the car parks?
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What do the car parks look like there?
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Is it? Are they full of off road SU VS
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OR? It's interesting.
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I've seen some interesting Porsches here.
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I've seen some air cooled stuff. There's a great Porsche scene
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down here. I know we have a lot of
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listeners down here. I've seen a lot of Gondevagans,
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old and new, you know, Europa, who used to import Jew wagons
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before they were, you know, legal.
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You could buy one through the dealerships.
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They were in Santa Fe for many, many years.
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If you, you know, could read those old road and track
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magazines to see the ads in the back for Europa and Santa Fe.
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Lots of old Saabs for some reason, presser types who come
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down here to retire and stuff, which would explain that.
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But the the biggest thing that has has really shocked me is I
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have seen, I bet two dozen late model defenders.
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I have seen more defenders here than I've probably seen, you
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know, anywhere else, including LA.
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The, the, the defender per capita is crazy. 2 doors, 4
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doors, every trim level. They're everywhere.
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And I suppose it would be pretty pretty ideal car for here.
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Yeah, I could see that. Well, especially if you like
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going off roading, which it sounds.
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Like it's. Easy to do.
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I have a feeling most of these probably, but they look good in
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the valet, you know? Look like they could just, you
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know, turn left and head out on the trail.
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But our buddy from Defender, Sam Allen, you know, I'd love to
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talk with him. Is this, you know, kind of a hot
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spot? I mean, it must be.
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There's a car scene down here for sure a couple of my box
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which kind of threw me newer my box.
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So there's definitely a money to set here a little bit of
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everyone. But yeah, it's it's the
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defenders that really that really that struck me so.
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It's so interesting. Well, especially seeing the
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90's, the 2 doors, those always catch my attention because
12:53
they're, there are, you know, a number of defenders in Seattle,
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especially on the east side. But the two doors are much more
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rare. Like I saw a blue 90 the other
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day and I was like, what? Never seen that.
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So good. I was at a bagel shop before we
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left Denver to come down here and there was a white 90 white
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with black wheels and all this. And I got caught by the owner
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taking pictures of the thing. And she was a young woman.
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She was home from college. It belonged to her parents.
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She went on and on and on. And you know about how it's her
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parents favorite car. And I remember talking to Sam
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Allen about, well, who buys these cars and he he said, well,
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it's like this or a Porsche, right?
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And I definitely got that vibe from her as as well.
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And yeah, it's I, I think I need one.
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I, I really, I really do. But I want an idea.
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I want a tutor. They're just so rare and they're
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just, you know, that much cooler in my, my eyes.
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So. Anyway, well, it is a
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conversation piece, you know, and I think for sure, I think
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that's one of the things I love about the Defender is that
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because there are the three variants, there really is
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something for every family or person or situation or use case
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without sacrificing, you know, where you're like, well, I'll
14:04
just make this work. I'll make this extra long one
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work, or I'll make the short one work.
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You don't have to make it work. You can just pick the one that
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works perfectly for you. And it's one of the few cars
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that looks great in appliance white.
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Yes, I think that's my favorite color.
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I always there's, you know, they have that beautiful dark
14:21
burgundy metallic, which I love, but I always go like, OK, but
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the white, yeah. But the white one, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. If you ever want to drive a
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Raisin, that's the color for you.
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But I know the one. It actually looks very, very
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nice. It looks like there's something
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about the lines of the current defender and that color.
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Yes, yes. Is absolute perfection.
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Yeah, yeah, Works well in British cars across the.
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Board, it does, yes. And I think, Lindsay, you talked
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about this a little bit last week, but you've also had a
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press car recently. I'm anyone who's not had a press
14:53
car for about 3 weeks. Four weeks because you're busy
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working that's. Right.
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Something's very strange if you haven't had a press car in a few
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weeks. That's right.
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And the one who's been, you know, press cars coming out your
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ears. So right.
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And actually we had to balance the scales a little bit.
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So they say timing is everything you picked up a Subaru just in
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time for. For Seattle, yeah.
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For Seattle to actually have winter, I mean, people had
15:16
started saying to each other like, gosh, we didn't get any
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snow. It was really mild, you know,
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this winter and be careful what you wish for because we got,
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depending on where you were, we got between a foot and two feet
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of snow did. You really?
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It was crazy. But like you said, Dan, timing
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was absolutely perfect because I got a 2026 Subaru Forester
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Wilderness Thursday morning and Friday we woke up to snow.
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So I was very, very well outfitted and immediately took
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it and went in search of more snow because we were getting
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some accumulation where I am. But I headed inland and again,
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the timing was really funny because I got it Thursday.
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Friday it started snowing. Saturday was the Avant's Women's
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Off Road day, which was the other event that they do for
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Women's month. And I took the car and went in
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the, you know, vague direction of Dirt Fish, but ended up at
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Dirt Fish ultimately. And I was like, Oh well, without
16:14
meaning to, we kind of went and did some recce, which is like
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the day before the rallies, they go and check the route.
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So we went and checked out where we were going to be and the
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car's so fantastic, like and Ryan, you've had one too.
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Not that. Long a few weeks ago, yeah.
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Yeah, we just had different colors, but same car.
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They're so fantastic. Like I just, and it did so well
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in the snow. Like never had a minute's
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hesitation. Like I felt completely
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confident, you know, because we kind of went exploring.
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I'm like it's got these amazing all terrain tires again, like
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you said, stock from the factory with the Forerunner as an
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overlander. This is their off road trim.
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The wilderness is for Subaru. So I was like, well, let's see
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how it does and it has. I don't know if you got to try
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the different Dr. modes, the X mode and it's got, you know,
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regular and then snow, which. Is I could without snow, Yeah.
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Right. Like and then it's got deep snow
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and mud which I really used on Saturday for the off road day.
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Yeah, tell us about. That the top one or is that do
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they do one that's more luxurious at the top end?
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They do they have a touring and a limited, which those are the
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more luxurious ones. And so I had the Forrester last
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year, 2025 for the women's off road event.
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And the one I had was actually the Touring, which is like the,
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the, you know, more creature comfort, luxury trim level.
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The wilderness is the like, take this off roading.
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And it comes from the it's got rubber mats, it's got all train
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tires, a little more ground clearance.
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You know, you can see the car is raised up a little bit and it's
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it was ready to go. You, you had some great photos
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of like just, you know, kicking up rooster tails of mud and
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snow. And I think I saw the car off
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the ground at times. Oh.
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Yes, you really put it through spaces.
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Oh yeah, I was like, I asked for a car to take off roading and
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they give it to me. So we did.
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And yeah, it was up on three wheels multiple times.
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And because of the snow, the water was much deeper than it
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was last year, so the course was much more aggressive.
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And so X mode has one option called deep snow and mud and I
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was in that mode all day. Excellent.
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The water like in this car does not have a snorkel and it's
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obviously lower than a forerunner.
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So there was 1 area and luckily they have like basically corner
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workers on the course spotters and they kept telling us they're
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like OK, at the end it's too deep, it's too deep, it's too
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deep. Finally I'm like are we going to
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be able to finish the course? Like what are we talking about?
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But we just had to go over on the side because they had the
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corner or the spotter had a Raptor and they're like it was
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about up to the top of the Raptor tire, which would have
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been, you know, mid window on the worser with no snorkel.
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But it again, it just chewed up the course.
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Like the water was up to the top of the hood in some places, but.
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It was you want to get another one in time, so you know you
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want to return it look after. It right Oh yeah, I mean I, I,
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you know, off roaded responsibly, but it was we had
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the best time the whole rest of the week talking about how much
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fun we had. The car did amazingly.
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I had the same experience last year when I took the Forester
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last year. People kept coming up to me and
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going like, you're in the Subaru.
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Wait, like, tell, tell me about this.
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They're like, I'm having so much fun watching you.
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You're tearing up the course. It's so capable.
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And yeah, like people were waving us over or running over
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when I'd finish a lap. They're like, this is so cool.
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I got the best video of you. I got the best pictures.
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I have to send them to you. So between the people that were
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out there driving with us and then the photographers that
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Avance provides. We got some pretty amazing Oh,
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that's a video. So Lindsay, you mentioned that
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there may be some changes at a certain airport in California
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and that may have a big implication on car storage in
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LA. Yes, they have announced after
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many years of people being afraid that this was going to
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happen or you know, rumblings about it, they have announced
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officially the Santa Monica Airport will be closing I think
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in 2028. So they have a couple years of
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runway obviously to figure out solutions.
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But you know, we all listen to, right?
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Thank you. I'll be here all week.
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You know, we all listen to Spike's car radio and they talk
20:42
about that's where they keep parts of their collections.
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That's where Jerry keeps his collection in.
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Lai know you and McGregor used to keep his collection there.
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So there are a lot of car collections there because it's a
20:54
fantastic location. It's completely secure because
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it's an active airport, so everybody feels comfortable
21:00
leaving their cars there, you know, And I think they say
21:05
they're going to turn it into a park.
21:06
And my gut reaction was like, well, parks in California have
21:10
unfortunately become a lot of places.
21:13
They've just become campgrounds. And so it's disheartening
21:17
because obviously that's going to cost taxpayer dollars and to
21:21
go, like, wait. But there's so many people that
21:23
the airport is actively serving in a positive way, and that's
21:28
going to go away. And it's been there for decades.
21:33
It's a historic landmark. I don't know if it's officially
21:36
a landmark, but yeah, it's too bad to see it go away.
21:40
Any chance they'd keep the hangers and the storage and all
21:43
that or it's? It doesn't sound.
21:45
Like dunzies? OK.
21:46
They said they're gonna put in a park and sports courts and.
21:51
Some developer will make some money off the deal.
21:53
Don't. It's going to be pickleball
21:55
side, right? And then they'll close it
21:57
because the neighbors will complain about the New Orleans.
21:59
And we know this. We've seen this before, Yeah.
22:01
Yeah, I was like, we all know how this goes.
22:03
Can we just leave it as an airport, please?
22:05
And then our you know. Because Matt Farah obviously has
22:09
got West Side, yeah, he took a number of years to build that.
22:12
So you know there aren't many choices are there locally for
22:15
car storage, so. Right.
22:17
And he's falling. I mean, even with his, he's got
22:20
two locations now and he's, you know, I think has a wait list.
22:24
So it's the that's, I mean, that's a constant conversation
22:28
in Southern California is like, what do you, where do you keep
22:31
your cars? Because, you know, a lot of
22:33
people are lucky enough they outgrow their own garages very
22:36
quickly. There are the the the, the 1% of
22:41
the 1% who end up just buying the houses around them to use
22:44
the garages for storage, which is more common than you'd
22:48
expect. Yeah, they're just like us.
22:52
Exactly. Yeah, but interesting, yeah.
22:57
I can find a second space of my apartment if anyone wants to
23:01
park. A Ferrari who's called me made
23:03
that happen. As long as I get usage rights.
23:07
Right. It's free, you just need the
23:10
extra set of keys, right? That's right, absolutely.
23:12
Great location it's. Funny.
23:13
Gassed up. Do you know what my apartment
23:15
block was on? I watch TV show called the
23:17
Rookie. Have you guys seen the rookie?
23:19
Oh. I've heard of it, I haven't
23:20
watched it yet. It's a TV show with Nathan
23:21
Fillion. And when I went off to, I think
23:24
I was, I went off to Phoenix car week, Scottsdale car week.
23:28
Yeah, yeah. And the week before I got a note
23:30
in the in the in the post to say the road's going to be closed
23:35
for filming. So unfortunately I was away when
23:38
they were filming, but there was a big car scene that I watched
23:41
tonight on this show called The Rookie and it featured my
23:45
apartment block. So, oh, that's wild.
23:47
Even my apartment you could see, but that's.
23:49
Cool, no one in. So watch the Rookie and near the
23:52
end there's a. Car.
23:53
It's a cop show, yeah. Yeah.
23:55
Yeah, yeah. So we're in Santa Fe here and
23:58
we're driving down the highway and I see three New Mexico State
24:03
Police cars all in a row and, you know, green and white and,
24:06
you know, red lights. And then it was, oh, these are
24:08
like cars from like the 70s. They were filming a movie and
24:12
they were sort of, it must be a cop movie.
24:14
But muscle memory being what it is, I immediately slammed down
24:18
the brakes. I mean, I would wasn't driving
24:20
in the 70s obviously, but that just that police car, you know,
24:24
they it was. Pavlovian.
24:27
Response. That's exactly it.
24:28
It's pretty wild. Anyway, they almost got me but.
24:32
Yeah, time. Speaking of time travel, yeah.
24:35
The ticket would be $8, right? It would have been.
24:37
It would have been OK. Stern warning.
24:40
Right. Yeah.
24:41
We keep getting the rivet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
24:44
right. Stopwatches and yeah, flying
24:48
machines. Very good, very good.
24:52
I saw that the US Postal Service has just released a new stamp
24:56
collection. Yeah, and it's honouring low
24:59
riders. So I thought, well, what if we
25:03
had the ability to do our own stamps?
25:04
What would we put? What would your theme be?
25:07
What cars and what would it look like?
25:11
Brian, why don't you go? Well, I can think think of a
25:13
couple off the top can. You steal any of my ideas?
25:18
I think you know all Porsches are all nine Elevens is probably
25:21
too easy. Show me all the M cars, right?
25:24
Wouldn't that be a fun series you?
25:25
Know that'd. Be cool, the E 28 and the E30
25:28
and and all that, but that's my vote.
25:30
I think those are my. What's that?
25:32
Idea. Yeah, because you want something
25:34
that has a range where you can have enough of a variety that
25:36
keeps it interesting. Right, 9 elevens all look the
25:39
same. No one would know the
25:40
difference. No, that's a great choice.
25:43
Thanks. Thanks.
25:44
How about you? Well, I mean, I have to go with
25:47
Broncos. So although you could also do
25:54
OK, so two options. You could either do Bronco
25:57
because the body styles have been varied enough, you could
26:00
keep it interesting and there is a current 1, you know, so a lot
26:04
of different generations would like connect to it, right?
26:09
I think you could also do a Shelby collection because you
26:12
could do the 2 Cobras, you could do the GT40, you could do the
26:17
Mustangs. You know you.
26:20
Could do, Carol. Right, exactly.
26:22
You know, there's a good again, you could do you have a lot of
26:25
options to keep like keep it interesting.
26:29
And, and I think with Ford versus Ferrari, like, you know,
26:33
introducing a new generation to those cars, that might be more,
26:36
even more appeal than there would have been.
26:39
Yeah, you guys are way more academic than I am.
26:43
So what did you mean I'm going TV movie cars?
26:46
Oh, and I'm. Going well, that's I'm going
26:49
Knight Rider. You know, Dukes and razors.
26:52
I just think that would be an amazing set of stamps.
26:55
Yeah, that. Would be it would and I think
26:58
even people that are not stamp collectors would collect them
27:00
and they would never get used, but that would be that'd be
27:03
fantastic. It's.
27:05
Genius because it's crossover into popular culture, right?
27:07
I mean, everyone could appreciate a, you know, an E46,
27:11
but you can't. You know who doesn't love, you
27:13
know, the Doloran from Back to the Future or whatever, right?
27:15
Right. Yeah, even if not all the Bond
27:17
cars and I guess. That's cool.
27:19
That's another one, right? Yeah, British and German a
27:22
little bit, and the Bond cars could be a good set of stamps.
27:27
Well, and I thought that I had seen one of the stamps, one of
27:30
the cars that's on the low rider stamps is called Pocket change.
27:34
It's the green and yellow. I think it's the Cutlass.
27:37
And when I was at the Louvre in 2011, there was a low rider
27:41
displayed under the pyramid in the Louvre, and it was also
27:45
green and yellow and blue. And I'm like, wait, that's the
27:47
car that was at the Louvre. So I asked our research
27:50
assistant. It turns out that that was not
27:52
correct. But they do have the same color
27:55
scheme of green and yellow and blue.
27:57
But the one that was at the Louvre is called Orguio
28:00
Mexicano, which was a Chevy Monte Carlo.
28:02
I thought you say it was called walking around money.
28:04
Yeah. But it was the weirdest, like
28:08
yeah, the most. Position.
28:10
Yeah, because I walked into the Louvre and I'm like, OK, so it
28:13
was like all the expressions of like, no matter where you go,
28:16
you're always home. Or like, I can't leave, you
28:18
know, I'm still in LA even though I'm in France.
28:21
Yeah, it was. So funny.
28:23
And then you had a hamburger and called it a day.
28:25
Right, right. Went to McDonald's and I was
28:26
like, I'm very home in France. No reason I'm.
28:29
Trying to imagine the tour, it's like, ladies and gentlemen, on
28:32
your left is the Mona Lisa, right?
28:36
Oguio Mexicano. I love it.
28:39
That's some tool, isn't? It Yeah, I thought I was seeing
28:42
something when we first walked in inside I'm like this Kim be
28:45
OK yeah, but that's what it was. Very funny.
28:49
Well, when the USPS does these, they'll have us to to credit,
28:53
right? That's right.
28:54
I know, right? Maybe we can get that car show
28:57
as a logo on one of them as well.
28:58
Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's what we need.
29:00
We need that car show stamps with our logo and then we each
29:04
get to pick one car. Yeah, there we.
29:07
Go. That's goals, right guys?
29:09
Sold life goals. It sounds like there is an
29:13
announcement coming in April about the Tesla Roadster.
29:17
So this is one of these cars that was teased.
29:22
There was a working model that Elon took Jay Leno in, but it's
29:27
never people have put deposits down and it's never come to
29:30
fruition, right. So I don't know whether the
29:33
announcement is coming on the 1st of April.
29:35
If it is, I think it's a completely different now.
29:39
That tells us everything we need to know.
29:40
Well, even this people that put down the deposits for cyber
29:42
trucks years and years ago finally got their their cyber
29:45
trucks right, right. So, you know, I have faith, I
29:47
vote. But.
29:48
Yeah. So in that sense, you can't.
29:49
We know how that worked out. Right.
29:54
So we'll see. But I think also Elon has said
29:56
that potentially that car will be the last people focused car.
30:01
So what he means by that is everything else is going to be
30:04
more automated. Interesting.
30:07
Tesla's obviously moving away from cars to robots, but so
30:11
maybe it's the swan song they're.
30:14
Like we have to deliver at least one before we just cancel all
30:18
the cars. Yeah, stay tuned, Right I?
30:22
Think everyone listening to us how we feel about that but.
30:25
Yes. Well, we will see in April, see
30:26
what the announcement is, if it actually becomes announcement
30:29
and see whether it's one of those 1st of April announcements
30:32
or later in the year. Yeah.
30:34
Well, do we? So do we know?
30:36
Because I feel like at this point, it's been like a decade
30:39
since the Roadster was teased and people were able to put
30:42
their deposits down. I mean, it's been a long time.
30:45
Think of the interest on those deposits, right?
30:48
How do you? Think they're funding everything
30:49
else? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:51
Paying for those rocket ships with That's right, yeah, from
30:55
the Tesla, right. So we will see.
30:57
But if you've actually put a deposit down on a Tesla
31:00
Roadster, please send us a comment.
31:02
I guess we would love to know if you've had any advanced
31:05
communication. Yeah, tell us why.
31:08
Yeah, we have lots. Of we are a judgment free.
31:11
Zone. I'll show is judgment free, but
31:13
if you have put a deposit down, let us know.
31:15
And we, we promise not to quiz you and we're just just curious.
31:21
Good news if you're a Mercedes-Benz fan, because
31:25
they're bringing back the Black Series.
31:28
The Black Series was always the unobtained.
31:31
I can't talk this evening. What's the word I'm looking for?
31:34
Unobtainium. Yeah, there we go.
31:36
I'm the periodic table available.
31:38
Yeah. Yeah, and and they're bringing a
31:41
new one back. So I thought I would ask you
31:43
guys and let's see if we've all got the same answer.
31:45
What is the greatest AMG Black series of history?
31:50
So I am very partial to the C63 Black Series because I feel like
31:55
it was such a sleeper in the sense that if you didn't know
31:58
what you were looking at, you'd go like, OK, Mercedes sedan and
32:02
then you drive it. Nice, nice.
32:06
Ryan, what did you have? Well, kind of related, the CLK63
32:12
like that is the one for me. I think they were only made in
32:15
2008. I've actually known a handful of
32:17
people that have owned them supposedly wonderful cars, 507 I
32:21
think horsepower. They just look the business.
32:24
They have these beautiful forged wheels.
32:26
I can go on and on. Let down a little bit, I think
32:28
by the seven speed automatic, although I think people have
32:30
done some conversions. But I think when you look at it
32:33
and it's sort of the, you know, through the lens of it being a
32:36
like a German muscle car, I think the automatic is OK.
32:40
And damn, we all should have just bought 1 when they were
32:43
cheap because they have really, really come up.
32:47
They're just cool. I mean, and I, I think silver is
32:49
the colour on those. But yeah, that's that's that's
32:53
my favorite AMG black car, no question.
32:57
What about you, I? Understand, the good news is
32:59
we've all got different cars. OK, good, good.
33:02
Which is great. We're really good at all
33:04
choosing different things, so it keeps it.
33:06
Interesting. Yeah.
33:07
So I went for the SL65 AMG. Which is it?
33:11
They it was always a hardtop car, right?
33:14
The the SL traditionally was a hardtop convertible.
33:17
Yeah, it was. You couldn't get it in a
33:19
convertible. I just think the stance on it, I
33:22
just think it looks. Yeah, it's cool.
33:25
I forgot that that wasn't that. That was a hardtop and I I think
33:28
that was the car where it had so much power and torque.
33:31
They had to dial down the power and the first couple of gears,
33:34
right, as to not explode the transmission.
33:39
That was a cool thing for sure. I'm looking.
33:40
At it now towards to HWA who are the guys who are resting modding
33:44
the old one 90s? OK.
33:47
They did a lot of work on different AMG cars and one of
33:51
the owners of HWA was a founder of AMG OK when he sold the
33:55
company's cameras with attitude. Do you know what the rarest
33:58
black Mercedes Black Series car is?
34:03
I do not, so I would love for you to tell us.
34:06
Is it lame, Dan? Is it something really terrible?
34:09
I. Wouldn't say it's.
34:11
C Class wagon or something. But it's not one that I don't, I
34:14
don't think I would want to buy it.
34:15
But it's the it's the SLK. They did an SLK Black series.
34:19
That's right. Not in the states though, if I
34:21
recall. I don't know, but had only 400
34:25
horsepower I think. Yeah.
34:27
But it was weird because it was, you know, you wouldn't expect it
34:30
in that smaller car. Yeah.
34:31
Do you know what then? That was the worst SLK ever made
34:34
in my eyes. That was the one that sort of
34:35
aped the SLR look, but it just, it was that era of like
34:39
Chrysler, Mercedes-Benz where the interior was just not to
34:43
snuff. And yeah, that's an unfortunate
34:46
looking thing. I'm looking at it now.
34:47
So I mean, it's still badass, don't get me wrong, but I think
34:50
you can only put so much lipstick on a pig, huh?
34:52
It's. Like the ginger stepchild, isn't
34:54
it? You said it.
34:57
All things. I like redheads so.
35:03
So I think it's coming out very soon in the new Black series.
35:06
So yeah, cool. Yeah, it's.
35:07
Great. I think continuing that
35:08
tradition. Any sense of price?
35:10
Let me see if our research department is.
35:12
Speaking of unobtainium A. Lot you have to.
35:16
Ask while you do while you do that it's so good to see like
35:19
the pre merger. AM GS finally coming into their
35:22
own? Took a little time but but I'm
35:25
guessing this is at least $200,000 so it's.
35:28
Oh, I would imagine it'd be 3, half a million, I would guess
35:31
because. Multiples.
35:33
Well, I'm still living in the 70s, so that's right.
35:36
I'm still slamming on the brakes for In Riot.
35:39
Timeline, it's affordable, so yeah, yeah, we're gonna go with
35:42
that. That's right.
35:43
That's right. Very good.
35:46
Lindsay, you had a story about a dealer being accused of selling
35:50
a Jeep to a person with dementia.
35:52
Yes. So apparently so it was in
35:55
Carrollton, GA which I'm like, oh, there's all, you know,
35:58
there's like a Carol tie in, of course.
36:02
But yeah, so apparently this man that was living in a senior
36:05
living facility responded to an ad that the dealer had placed,
36:09
and the dealership ended up sending a salesman to the senior
36:12
living facility. Oh boy.
36:15
But unfortunately, the man that had contacted them has dementia.
36:18
So he ended up somehow, I think they took him, like picked him
36:23
up and took him back to the dealership.
36:26
So there's a contract and the man has since passed away.
36:30
Before he passed away, neither he nor his wife had any memory
36:34
of like, signing the contract or buying the car.
36:37
And the dealer is refusing to unwind the deal, no.
36:40
No, no, no. I which is why, I mean, it's
36:43
crazy. It should be a no brainer, but I
36:46
made it got me thinking. And so I'm curious what you guys
36:50
like, what you may have had, what stories you may have,
36:53
because I was thinking like, OK, what was the craziest car
36:56
dealership experience I had over the years?
37:00
And before I got the X3, I was also looking at manual
37:04
forerunners And I, cuz I think they made them like mid 90s, you
37:07
could get a manual forerunner and they're rare.
37:11
And so when they came up, you had to jump on it.
37:13
And I had been stocking, you know, all the dealers and
37:17
Craigslist and classified ads, all that up here.
37:20
And one came up at a dealer in downtown Seattle.
37:23
And so I went right after work and I talked to a sales guy and
37:27
he did not know that they had taken this car in.
37:29
So I knew before he did so that, you know, I was like, OK, it's
37:34
fine. It's a new car.
37:36
He couldn't find it on the lot. And I kept, I was like, all
37:39
right, maybe this is not to be. And then he said, oh, no, no, I
37:43
figured it out. It's in our, I don't know what
37:45
you'd call it because it wasn't a repair shop, but it's like
37:47
where they take the cars to refurbish them before they put
37:50
them out on the lot after they take them in on trade because
37:53
this car needed some body work apparently too.
37:56
So he ended up taking me back into this shop, which I don't
37:59
think customers are supposed to have access to.
38:03
And because I don't think customers are supposed to go
38:07
there, I didn't have like the correct shoes and I ended up
38:09
falling in the shop. Really.
38:12
And I was like, you know what? This is not, this is not meant
38:16
to be. I gotta.
38:17
Go, ladies and gentlemen, Josh Toyota, right?
38:23
And yeah, and the rest is history.
38:25
Yeah. Wow.
38:27
Yeah, wow. What's your worst experience,
38:30
Dan? I'm just trying to think.
38:32
I mean, I, I, when I bought the Corolla, it was, I signed all
38:36
the forms, but they didn't take any money and the cars were in
38:38
high demand at the time. So I ended up like chasing them,
38:42
chasing them, chasing them. And the car was in LA and the I
38:45
was up in Seattle at the time. And I ended up having to talk to
38:49
the dealer principal and say, look, you've done all the forms.
38:52
You've not taken any money, but I don't want you to sell this
38:56
car to someone else. And he gave me his word.
38:58
But that was a lot of chasing just to make sure that that car
39:01
was mine, even though I signed the forms.
39:03
Yeah, and you removed your your hands from his neck and his
39:08
history. Yeah.
39:09
Yeah, what about you, Ryan and he?
39:10
Yeah. You know, I'm thinking back,
39:12
I've generally had good experiences, but as a younger
39:14
person or my credit wasn't quite, you know, where it is.
39:17
Maybe today's an old man. I do remember going into it was
39:21
a, it was a high end sort of used lot, right?
39:25
And being offered a 14.99% interest rate, which I think
39:32
talked him down to 1299 or 1199 and thought I'd really, you
39:35
know, correct. Negotiator.
39:37
Yes, yes, yes. And, you know, and then, of
39:40
course, realizing very quickly, you know, that that was not a
39:44
good deal. Yeah.
39:44
I've always argued that, you know, in high school people
39:47
should be taught, like, practical math, you know, and
39:50
compound interest in this kind of thing in a way that I don't
39:52
think I ever was. Not to make excuses, but, you
39:57
know, I was happy to get a car, I guess.
39:59
Didn't keep the car very long, got better credit scores as I,
40:02
you know, got a real job and this kind of stuff.
40:04
But in retrospect, I sort of feel like they took advantage of
40:07
me. I guess I was happy.
40:10
But you know, this, this, this dealership, do we know the name
40:13
of this dealership with the dementia couple?
40:15
Because we should call them out. And, you know, at least now we
40:19
know who's buying these Jeeps in 2027.
40:22
Let's see. OK, I can.
40:23
Find well, it's Scott Evans, Chrysler Dodge.
40:27
I allegedly did this. Let's let's not break ourselves
40:31
into jail. Or if you are, you need to sue
40:33
Ryan Barkey. That's Ryan.
40:35
Barkey, good luck. You bring that credit score
40:39
right back down it. Does seem to be this theme right
40:42
now of at least in the press, a few sketchy dealerships.
40:45
Because also I think 2 weeks ago there was the story about the
40:48
guy who bought the GT3 and then he found out that the car was
40:52
actually a training car for training and stuff.
40:56
So there's a, you know, there's a lawsuit going on there as
40:59
well. Yeah, yeah, there's that.
41:02
Is it the the Lion Green or or the Birch Green or whatever GT3
41:06
there? I think Vin Wiki did a piece on
41:07
it. I've seen some stories online
41:09
where this car just keeps getting passed around and sort
41:11
of getting washed right, the title and all this.
41:14
But they have now traced this car back to some basically drug
41:17
addict who bought this thing new with cash and ran it into the
41:20
ground. And you can hide A lot right
41:23
with the process of of of typing the car.
41:25
Yeah, if you know what you're doing.
41:27
This kind of stuff. Tidal washing, Yeah, for sure.
41:30
Don't let us don't get us started on that, that whole the
41:33
the bring the trailer thing, right with the, with the cars
41:35
that are are bought and sold by like 6 of the same people,
41:40
right? Specifically late model GT
41:42
Threes. Did you?
41:43
No. Buddy DM McGuinness brought this
41:45
to our attention. But basically, someone actually
41:48
looked at Bring A Trailer. And we, we love Bring a Trailer.
41:50
I had to laugh. We're in an Airbnb.
41:52
And I kept thinking as I walked in the door, all the parallels
41:54
between like, Airbnb and Bring a Trailer.
41:56
Like, everything looks much better in photos, right?
42:02
Yeah. And.
42:04
There's like an online. Smoker's car there's.
42:06
Like an online dating parallel in there.
42:08
I digress. Yeah, especially with filters
42:10
and all. No, it's this place is, is is
42:12
perfectly nice, but but yeah, I think in a nutshell, what was
42:16
happening is someone actually ran the data on late model GT
42:19
threes and specifically tourings.
42:21
And they realized that of all the 15, you know, 992 tourings
42:25
that have been bought and sold on, on Bring a Trailer.
42:28
All transactions except for maybe one or between the same 5
42:31
or 6 individuals. And often cases, often cases,
42:34
cars were, were sold by a dealership to a friend of the
42:38
dealer and then the car would show up with, you know, three
42:41
extra miles at another dealer. And what's happening is they're
42:44
artificially setting the market at about $100,000 more than
42:47
sticker. And it's, it's, it's really
42:49
discouraging. You know, you know, it's like
42:54
anything, right? You know, you have something and
42:56
people are going to take advantage of it.
42:58
And, and I think that's what's what's happening, but it's too
43:00
bad because, you know, I remember the day of days of
43:03
being able to go in and just, you know, you bought what you
43:05
want, right? Yeah.
43:07
And it's, it's, you know, it's, it's tomfoolery like this,
43:11
right? That is has really changed,
43:13
changed that, you know, changed the experience, you know, and
43:16
it's it's unfortunate, but. Foolishness and nonsense all
43:20
around. Yeah.
43:21
But a car you can buy is that Ford have just announced they're
43:24
opening the books again for the GTD.
43:27
That's right. So my question to you guys is
43:30
actually, is it less appealing now that you can potentially buy
43:35
it again? When it first sold out, it was
43:38
almost like an exclusive car. And we know that when exclusive
43:41
cars come out, they generally go up in value.
43:43
You know they get appreciated, but you know, now that you could
43:47
potentially buy it, is it less appealing?
43:50
Were those sold as a limited series?
43:52
Yeah, they were. I don't have the numbers, but it
43:56
was a limited number. We're going to be built and you
43:59
had to apply. And what I thought was
44:02
interesting in the article that I read about this next round of,
44:06
of like applications is that they said the people that
44:10
applied in the initial round were told that their application
44:14
would be kept on file. So I'm like, oh, I wonder if you
44:18
want to reapply. You just go back in and you're
44:20
like, please consider me again. Yeah.
44:24
Yeah, I, I don't know. I kind of never really did it
44:27
for me, you know, I, I think they're cool, but I don't know.
44:32
It was, I never got quite as excited as maybe some other
44:34
people did, like me. You've driven 1 Dan.
44:37
I haven't you tell, but. I haven't.
44:39
Oh, I've driven the dark horse. I've not driven.
44:41
The JT That's right, that's right.
44:43
I've been in the presence of a few, we, we've had a few
44:46
different car shows and stuff, but it's 325,000 right?
44:51
And and that's where it. Starts.
44:52
That's what they start. Yeah, yeah.
44:54
Well, and I think I heard people were saying that that was what
44:59
they had announced the starting price was going to be.
45:01
And then before they even came out, I think there were some
45:03
delays and people were saying the price had gone up like the
45:07
base price before they were even out.
45:10
Because I think a lot of the cars built in Canada and
45:13
presumably if they're then that would have taken effect.
45:20
Yeah. There's a really good video of
45:22
Chris Harris and Max Verstappen taking taking one around the
45:26
track. So if you get the chance, have a
45:28
look at that video. It's it's very, very good.
45:31
Yeah. But yeah, I just, it's not for
45:32
me. Yeah, I'm sure it's wonderful,
45:35
but yeah, at the end of the day, it's just not where my.
45:37
OK, well I will take one for the team for that car show and I
45:42
will apply for me. Yeah.
45:44
I just, I love the story behind how it was created.
45:50
It was very lucky to be at one of the unveiling events when
45:53
they debuted it in at Monterey. It was at Spanish Bay.
45:58
They introduced the car and Jim Farley spoke and talked about
46:01
the story behind it and their goals for it.
46:03
And I love that they looked at the GT3RS and they're like, we
46:06
want to build a competitor to that, which is not something
46:09
that Ford had done. And like that's an incredible
46:12
goal because people don't typically compare Ford and
46:15
Porsche, right? When you look at this car, it's
46:18
like you can see the engineering and like for multi Matic to have
46:22
created it with Ford, they're the ones that created the new
46:25
GT. So I really love it.
46:28
Yeah, might be too capable for someone like me to, you know,
46:31
it's. Right.
46:33
I think multi matic, let's say their name correctly, I think
46:37
they actually provide parts of a Ferrari.
46:39
So I think they do. That's right, yeah.
46:41
It's a it's a high end, you know, sure this isn't your Ford
46:44
Mustang that's gonna be at the cars and coffee leaving in a
46:47
really, you know disrespectful way, but it's a lot of money for
46:53
a blue Oval I. Know it is.
46:55
They're Multimatic is the one. They're the company that
46:58
developed the GT that won Lamar in 2017, which was the 50th
47:03
anniversary. So they know what they're doing.
47:04
Yeah, It's got all the right parts.
47:06
It checks off all the right boxes.
47:08
You know, it is a great story. And, you know, it's just, there
47:13
are a lot of options for, you know.
47:15
There are plus, absolutely. Maybe maybe Ford need to create
47:20
a new brand that is. Like.
47:22
A racing brand and it's it's separated to because when you
47:26
say Mustang GTD right, the Mustang thing.
47:29
But if they had some sort of RSGTD then maybe it would be
47:33
more interesting. I don't know I I can't get away
47:36
D in my mind with cars means a diesel, right.
47:40
And I think of all the BMWs, other things that have used DD
47:42
in the, you know, in the naming, you know, nomenclature, you
47:45
know, Mercedes and it's just so I can't get past that.
47:48
It's not a sexy name. I you know, if you could have
47:51
not a sexy name in that ring. Inspector Toyota.
47:52
Real quick, not to hijack the conversation, but there is a new
47:57
a Toyota truck. It's the TRD Hammer and I have a
48:01
couple problems with that one. It sounds like a made-up like
48:06
superhero. Yeah, yeah.
48:08
Yeah, I have. To use the hammer.
48:13
Something you use so you can, right?
48:15
Yeah. And in my again, my mind, you
48:17
know my hammer is AMG, right? Like an AMG hammer.
48:21
And that's all that will ever mean in the car truck rolling
48:24
list for that. Naming is more important than I
48:27
think we give it credit for. It's like you look at Acura and
48:30
when they stopped using names and they went to TL and you
48:33
know, TSX and RL and all this sales went down.
48:36
And I think there's probably a correlation, right?
48:39
It's just, I think, you know, other than maybe Mercedes-Benz
48:41
and BMW, it's just, you know, we want names, but those names mean
48:44
something. You have to be very, very
48:46
careful what you name things. So you know the whole Chevy Nova
48:49
story and, and all that, right from the 70s.
48:53
Again, I think Ryan when he went to Santa Fe, he didn't realize
48:58
he entered A wormhole to the. 70 I may be the youngest person
49:02
here. There's that.
49:03
Yeah, right. Yeah.
49:05
Well, it's like being me. Ever hot?
49:09
Tub very, like you said, naming. It's like when you go to name a
49:14
child, you realize how many associations you have with
49:18
different names that you didn't know until you start throwing on
49:20
and you're like, well, no, that was that person in junior high
49:22
that I didn't like or was no, you know, mean to me or
49:25
whatever. But we talked about this.
49:26
My daughter's name is Elsa. I don't think that's any secret.
49:29
You know, she was born before the movie Frozen, right?
49:33
And a couple three years later, you know, there was Elsa close
49:37
enough if you're three years old, you know, and fortunately,
49:39
Elsa was like the, you know, the beautiful queen or whatever.
49:41
But what if she had been the Wicked witch?
49:43
Can you imagine how difficult it's if you want to be unique?
49:46
Come on, Disney. Yeah.
49:48
Yeah. Anyway, sorry, that's the cars.
49:51
I was just thinking there's going to be a whole lot of kids
49:53
that are named after the Wicked movies.
49:57
Yeah, yeah, you can tell. You know, you, Yeah.
50:01
When you look generationally, you're like, what movies were
50:03
popular when you were younger? And then people end up naming
50:06
their kids those names. Well, I think Lindsay, Dan and
50:09
Ryan were sort of of their era, right?
50:11
Yeah. Were there a lot of Ryan's?
50:13
I mean, I know there were a lot of Ryan's when I was in school.
50:17
Yeah, there were, surprisingly. Not the MO, sorry.
50:26
There was one other Lindsay, which actually both sets of
50:29
parents were shocked about because it's not very common,
50:31
but yeah, Dan, were there? Were you one of many Daniels in
50:35
school, or Dan one, or? 2 But I was named after an Elton
50:39
John song. Really.
50:41
Oh. Yes, sorry, which song is that?
50:45
I'm trying to think. Annual.
50:46
Oh God, actually. I'm just going to go if.
50:50
You. Were shooting in highbrow
50:53
conversation. This is the wrong podcast.
50:55
I'm. Thinking candle in the wind
51:00
like. Don't shoot me, I'm the piano
51:02
player. From the 70s.
51:04
You think I know this, right? That's so funny.
51:07
Just TuneIn to the radio, see what's playing at the minute,
51:10
Right? That's funny, Ryan.
51:12
Were you named up for a famous Ryan?
51:14
No, I was not. And it's of course an Irish name
51:16
and we're not Irish at all, so I'm not sure.
51:19
My sister's name is Aaron. So 22 you know 2 Lovely.
51:24
Irish names. Yeah, you know.
51:27
Maybe your parents are so I. Could have been named something.
51:31
Right. Well, people say like, what's
51:34
the Irish word for the Irish equivalent for like if you're an
51:37
Irish enthusiast. Potato file.
51:43
I think it's funny that some folks over here call it some
51:45
Patty's Day. That hit a nerve with some folks
51:49
this year, didn't it? Yeah.
51:50
Because where did that come from?
51:52
It's not TTY, it's DDY. Right, DUDY?
51:55
Yeah, Well, because that here it's a nickname for Patrick.
51:59
Yeah. But I don't know why the double
52:01
DS feel like there's a joke in there somewhere.
52:04
They write themselves right now. Write themselves.
52:10
What have you guys got coming up over the next couple of weeks?
52:13
Much. How much?
52:15
I mean, this morning it was brilliantly sunny, so hopefully.
52:17
You're always up to something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
52:20
Stay tuned. But you get that GT4 out if
52:22
nothing else. Yeah, yeah.
52:24
I do want to give a shout out to the Reset Hotel.
52:29
So a couple of weeks ago I stayed and it was beyond Joshua
52:32
Tree. So you head W from LA and keep
52:35
going, keep going. Eventually get to Joshua Tree
52:37
and just the other side was this place called the the Reset
52:40
Hotel. Is that where the streets have
52:41
no name? Almost, but apparently.
52:45
Wait, you can check in, but you can never leave.
52:48
Oh my God. You too.
52:50
But no, no, Led Zeppelin wrote a song about the I think it's
52:54
called 29 Palms, which. Is why I was saying yeah.
52:56
OK, Led Zeppelin wrote a song about it, but this hotel was all
53:00
shipping containers so. You started in the shipping,
53:04
Yeah. In the middle of the desert.
53:06
But I, I drove, I took the Audi out there and stopped at one of
53:09
the rest stops to pick up some firewood because each container
53:13
had a, you know, had a, a fire pit.
53:16
And I'm so anyway, I say to the guy, you know, can I take any of
53:20
the firewood? And he, yeah, just take the
53:22
biggest pile, take the biggest pile.
53:23
None of the fuckers told me that there was a wind advisory and no
53:26
one was allowed fires. They're like, take the biggest.
53:33
Pile because. I'm not going to sell anymore.
53:35
That's amazing sort. Of logs in the car that couldn't
53:37
get used. But the hotel was wonderful.
53:40
It was a great place for a reset.
53:41
So the Reset hotel 29 Palms highly recommend it.
53:46
And what what, what a shame, because nothing burns like
53:49
Joshua Tree wood. True, right?
53:52
Wait, so you're on a shipping container in the middle of the
53:55
desert? Like your unclaimed cargo or
53:57
something? Was it air conditioning?
53:59
Was it? Was it pleasant?
54:00
Was it it? Was very pleasant.
54:02
They had air conditioning, they had a like a pool.
54:05
They had AI didn't use it, but they had like one of those
54:08
plunge pools. OK, also in a shipping
54:10
container. That wasn't, that was just like
54:13
outside, but an infrared sauna. Oh, what does that mean?
54:18
Red light. It's a red light sauna, so it's
54:21
it's different to like. The heated stone heat.
54:25
Lamp, yeah. I consider myself a bit of a
54:27
sauna, A fisty or. Not OK.
54:29
OK. No, they have, you know, you'll
54:31
have like the heat lamp with the the stones is the traditional
54:35
one. OK, but an infrared 1 is red
54:38
light and that's how it generates the sauna effect.
54:40
So you go in and hang out, and then you go jump in the plunge
54:43
pool. OK, did did you get a reset?
54:46
Would you feel it was? It was.
54:47
Yeah, I mean, obviously you then reset as soon as you get back to
54:50
the office. Yeah, it's gone.
54:52
But no, it was a great, a great place.
54:55
And I, I'm not a fan of the traffic getting out there.
54:57
So coming back, I like left at 6:00 AM and there was nothing
55:02
better than leaving the desert. And the sun coming up behind you
55:04
is you're, you know, is you're slowly making your way back to
55:07
LA. Do you drive through Riverside
55:08
on the way out there? I think you get to buzz San
55:11
Bernardino. San Bernardino, I'm sorry,
55:15
Riverside County, I think San. Bernardino Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:18
Yeah, keep going. Do not.
55:20
Yeah, but Dan, you took your drone with you, right?
55:23
I did, yeah. I got myself a new drone and I
55:25
got some good shots. You got some cool footage, I
55:27
think you posted a little clip maybe and it looked amazing.
55:32
Yeah, at that location. I would highly recommend it if
55:35
you if you're looking for somewhere to go and just kind of
55:37
chill out for a while. It's funny that my hairdresser,
55:41
I said to my hairdresser, Oh yeah, I went out to 29 Palms.
55:43
He's like, did you do shrooms? I'm like, well anyway, did you
55:46
do shrooms? And I'm like, no, I didn't do
55:48
shrooms. Everyone does shrooms out there.
55:49
I'm like no I didn't do shrooms. Well, that car show the.
55:52
Real way to do it is to. Do about it, OK, Yeah, OK.
55:55
If you want the full reset, you got to do something.
56:00
Yeah, I just have logs. Yeah.
56:03
Unused. Sweet.
56:04
Do you still have this wood? What did you do in there?
56:06
Is this OK? I was gonna say because I think
56:08
probably that's their their scam, right?
56:10
You leave it behind and they go collect it and then they go sell
56:12
it for the next guy, right? Yeah, Dan's like not on my
56:15
watch. It's going back to LA with me
56:17
where I also can use it complete.
56:19
A little bit, a little bit. So yeah.
56:23
Your next visit. Yeah, yeah.
56:25
When are you driving back, Ryan? We are driving back on on
56:28
Saturday morning, so by the time you listen to this, I'll still
56:31
be in Santa Fe. If you happen to be down in
56:32
Santa Fe and I know there are a couple of you, let's grab a beer
56:35
or something. We can.
56:37
We can marvel at all the Land Rover defense.
56:42
Exactly the land of the defender.
56:44
I mean, I think, I think I need to make a pilgrimage there now.
56:49
Do you remember those old T-shirts, like from the 60s,
56:51
seventies? Defend Brooklyn, You know there
56:52
should be Defend Santa Fe and then there's a picture of a of a
56:55
defender. That's like a Winky fan, all
56:57
right? You're right, Sam, are you
56:58
listening? Yeah, that's so funny.
57:01
Love it. Nice.
57:03
Anything else anyone wanted to talk about tonight?
57:06
Man, that was damn near an hour. I know that we've, I mean, I
57:10
feel like that was jam packed. We've all been doing so many
57:13
different car related things. Yeah, yeah.
57:16
I just want to say again, if you haven't go back, listen to the
57:18
Angela's Death Highway episode and also listen to the Myron
57:22
Vernus episode. I think those were those are in
57:26
the pantheon or should be of of that car show.
57:29
Great episode. I'm proud of so.
57:32
Well, it's always nice because I think we all go back and listen
57:36
just to sort of check our work. And it's always nice when you're
57:40
listening and you find yourself laughing organically and you're
57:44
like, I was there and I'm still finding it funny.
57:46
Or I think, like you said, Ryan, you because when you're
57:49
recording your eye, you know, you're kind of thinking like
57:52
ahead and paying attention to the conversation.
57:54
But then when you listen, you get to just enjoy the
57:56
conversation. And particularly the Angela's
58:00
death Hwy. 1, we covered so many topics that there were a couple
58:03
moments where I was like, oh, I forgot we even talked about
58:06
that. And that's, you know, so it was
58:09
brand new for me, too. Yeah, you.
58:11
Get lost in the conversation. That's a good one.
58:13
Yeah, you know, it's a good time.
58:14
Yeah, Highly recommend. Well, I think we're at a show,
58:17
so he's going to give us the phrase.
58:19
I'm happy to send us off with an exhortation to remember always
58:24
be driving. Thank you so much for joining us
58:26
and we will see you next week.