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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Friday, December thirteenth.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, tol Moore. The Tennessee game is in
- 0:05Speaker 1: eight days. The game against Michigan in three hundred and
- 0:08Speaker 1: fifty one days. The transfer portal has been opened since Monday.
- 0:12Speaker 1: A bunch of very talented players have gone in there.
- 0:16Speaker 1: One of the big guys, one of the big names
- 0:18Speaker 1: we want to talk about today is Dylan Theeneman. He's
- 0:21Speaker 1: a safety out of Purdue, someone who during the course
- 0:25Speaker 1: of last season, we did a preview show for the
- 0:29Speaker 1: Ohio State Perdue game and Kevin Noon and I were
- 0:31Speaker 1: talking about on the pre preview show, Hey, Dylan Thineman
- 0:34Speaker 1: might be a name to watch for Ohio State in
- 0:36Speaker 1: the transfer portal. Ryan Walter Suprew coach was fired at
- 0:39Speaker 1: the end of the season. Pretty Much the entire Purdue
- 0:42Speaker 1: team is in the portal now. Dylan Thinaman definitely the
- 0:45Speaker 1: most the most intriguing of the Purdue possibilities in the portal,
- 0:50Speaker 1: someone who's visiting Ohio State in the next week or so.
- 0:52Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to Tony Gerderman of Buck a
- 0:54Speaker 1: huddle about Theeneman. The likelihood of Theeneman ending up a
- 0:58Speaker 1: Buckeye next season where he might fit and much more.
- 1:01Speaker 1: But Tony, I think the first thing to start with
- 1:02Speaker 1: on this one is this might be something that's only
- 1:05Speaker 1: happening because of a coaching change, because Damon was is
- 1:09Speaker 1: a Purdue legacy and once once Ryan Malts was fired,
- 1:14Speaker 1: then it was like, Okay, now he's going into portal. Yeah.
- 1:17Speaker 2: I believe He's got two brothers that have also been
- 1:19Speaker 2: safeties at Purdue, and it's it's like a long family
- 1:23Speaker 2: lineage of players there. And I was, I think I've
- 1:27Speaker 2: told this story before talking with PJ. Fleck about players,
- 1:31Speaker 2: and he had talked he was this is a big
- 1:33Speaker 2: tim media days and somebody asked him about Dylan Theneman
- 1:36Speaker 2: and he's like, we were recruiting him, and I had
- 1:39Speaker 2: to like I knew he was a of a Purdue legacy,
- 1:41Speaker 2: and I was like, I said, Dylan, do we have
- 1:44Speaker 2: a shot, Like if I'm going to recruit you, I
- 1:46Speaker 2: need to know I have a shot. And you know,
- 1:48Speaker 2: he said he had a shot. So they recruited him.
- 1:50Speaker 2: They fell short, and he ended up where everybody expected
- 1:53Speaker 2: him to go. And you know, those who follow Ohio
- 1:57Speaker 2: State and who cover Ohio State nobody knew who Dylan
- 2:00Speaker 2: Thiinaman was, never on our radar until he opens up
- 2:03Speaker 2: as a true freshman and goes out there and posts
- 2:05Speaker 2: one hundred and six tackles as the Big Ten Freshman
- 2:08Speaker 2: of the year as a freshman All American is like
- 2:10Speaker 2: a third team All American and you're like, oh, oh.
- 2:15Speaker 2: And then a couple of weeks ago on the Buck,
- 2:18Speaker 2: I had a message board I posted like a Black
- 2:20Speaker 2: Friday thread and like, all right, Black Friday's coming, who
- 2:23Speaker 2: would you like to see in the portal? Who would
- 2:24Speaker 2: you go shopping for? And Dylan Thiinaman was one of
- 2:28Speaker 2: the two names I put in there. So am I responsible?
- 2:31Speaker 2: Who's to say? Do you say it's Ryan Walters?
- 2:35Speaker 1: We'll see, Well, lots of credit potentially to go around
- 2:39Speaker 1: here if the Buckeyes can end up adding diald Thinum
- 2:42Speaker 1: into their twenty twenty five class. You mentioned his stats
- 2:44Speaker 1: as a true freshman in twenty twenty three. He came
- 2:47Speaker 1: back no sophomore slump this year, over one hundred tackles
- 2:50Speaker 1: again this year for Purdue, a really really solid second season.
- 2:54Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes you have the guy who's a
- 2:56Speaker 1: true freshman phenom and then Oakes takes a little bit
- 2:59Speaker 1: of a step back. We've seen that with some Buckeyes
- 3:01Speaker 1: over the JK. Dobbins, for example, He's had a fantastic
- 3:03Speaker 1: freshman season, took a little bit of a step back,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and then had an enormous third season. Dylan Deneman no problem,
- 3:10Speaker 1: No no freshman season, no problem, just another solid twenty
- 3:14Speaker 1: twenty four. And I think the next question we got
- 3:17Speaker 1: to get to is where would he fit on the
- 3:19Speaker 1: Ohio State defense because you've potentially got Caleb Downs coming back,
- 3:22Speaker 1: presumably have Caleb Downs coming back. Dylan Deenaman kind of
- 3:26Speaker 1: plays that same free safety type spot. Where would you
- 3:30Speaker 1: see Jim Knowles potentially if the Buckeyes can add Denemon,
- 3:34Speaker 1: where would you see Jim Knowles maybe slotting the different
- 3:36Speaker 1: safeties in together.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting question because the type of safety
- 3:41Speaker 2: that Dylan Deenaman plays. If you ever if you guys
- 3:43Speaker 2: have ever watched him, there are times he's lined up
- 3:45Speaker 2: he's a single high safety and he's lined up twenty
- 3:48Speaker 2: five yards beyond you know, deep, and their times he's
- 3:52Speaker 2: not even in the picture, depending on how wide the
- 3:54Speaker 2: camera is, and then he'll come crashing down or he'll
- 3:57Speaker 2: you know, go defend the pass. So that's not Ohio
- 4:00Speaker 2: State's defense, or at least it isn't right now, And
- 4:03Speaker 2: I wouldn't expect that it would be next year either,
- 4:05Speaker 2: because it's just that's a Ryan Walters thing, and so
- 4:09Speaker 2: I wouldn't even think Dylan Tenaman is gonna if he
- 4:11Speaker 2: returned it to Purdue, would be doing that same thing.
- 4:14Speaker 2: But I think they can do either. And Caleb Downs
- 4:16Speaker 2: is great in the box, and Dylan Tiinaman is used
- 4:19Speaker 2: to being outside of the box and then coming, you know,
- 4:22Speaker 2: wherever else he needs to be, he can get there.
- 4:23Speaker 2: So maybe that's one where you have Dylan Thiinaman as
- 4:27Speaker 2: your free safety and you move Caleb Downs to strong safety.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Either way, you've got to replace Layton Ransom. We know
- 4:33Speaker 2: how they feel about Jalen McLain EMILYE. Cartford, but if
- 4:38Speaker 2: they're already planning visits, then that also tells you how
- 4:40Speaker 2: they feel about Dylan Thineman and really anybody in the
- 4:43Speaker 2: Big ten who has seen him, and he's being recruited
- 4:46Speaker 2: by everybody. And right now, I think the two visits
- 4:49Speaker 2: are Oregon and Ohio State and tom Once you say Oregon,
- 4:53Speaker 2: then you have Ohio State fans are like you, you
- 4:57Speaker 2: could have just told me that at the outset.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Well, the good news is Oregon has to be pretty
- 5:01Speaker 1: much full with safeties, with all the other safeties they
- 5:04Speaker 1: got took away from Ohio State in recruiting this cycle.
- 5:07Speaker 1: So presumably that room you may have to knock out
- 5:09Speaker 1: a wall to add and you know, add more space
- 5:11Speaker 1: for all the safeties they're going after. But you know,
- 5:14Speaker 1: you mentioned Leek Hartford, you mentioned Jalen McLain. I think
- 5:17Speaker 1: that tells me a lot about if they're really pursuing
- 5:20Speaker 1: themeem in very aggressively. That tells me a lot about
- 5:23Speaker 1: what they think about him, because we've heard them talk
- 5:25Speaker 1: about Jayalen McLain. We've seen Malik Hartford played as a
- 5:28Speaker 1: true freshman. Some he didn't play a whole heck of
- 5:30Speaker 1: a lot this year because he was behind Lathan Ransom
- 5:33Speaker 1: and Calea Downs, who were two pretty darn good safeties
- 5:35Speaker 1: on their own. But you know, they have other guys
- 5:37Speaker 1: in this room. This is not like they're desperate to
- 5:40Speaker 1: fill a spot and they just need a body. The
- 5:42Speaker 1: fact that if you're potentially going after someone like theenem
- 5:45Speaker 1: and with all the other guys in that room, and
- 5:46Speaker 1: with Downs presumably coming back next year, that tells me
- 5:49Speaker 1: where they think he ranks among safeties and puts him
- 5:52Speaker 1: probably pretty close to the top of the list.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's also to the point where
- 5:57Speaker 2: the numbers aren't great in terms of the overall numbers
- 5:59Speaker 2: in the room. You're going to need to continue to
- 6:01Speaker 2: improve those, and you'd rather improve them with starter level
- 6:05Speaker 2: players that will raise everybody up. And you know, if
- 6:08Speaker 2: they were able to land him, they've shown they will
- 6:11Speaker 2: play multiple players, and if anybody is capable of playing,
- 6:16Speaker 2: they'll try to get them out there when they can.
- 6:18Speaker 2: But the fact that they're going after them after him
- 6:21Speaker 2: is interesting, and it gives you some insight into the
- 6:24Speaker 2: maybe the aggression that we're going to see with the
- 6:27Speaker 2: portal this year, because they do want to just go
- 6:30Speaker 2: with their recruits as much as possible, and they use
- 6:32Speaker 2: the portal to offset things. Sometimes there are guys that
- 6:36Speaker 2: are just too good to pass up, and maybe this
- 6:38Speaker 2: is one of those instances. And it is much more
- 6:42Speaker 2: a business than it has ever been before, So the
- 6:44Speaker 2: players kind of have to understand that, and they have
- 6:47Speaker 2: the freedom to move if they don't like it, and
- 6:51Speaker 2: you can't just assume everybody is going to be okay
- 6:55Speaker 2: next year in terms of we'll all develop. If you've
- 6:58Speaker 2: got an opportunity to make your room better, you do it,
- 7:01Speaker 2: and with the understanding of how does this impact the
- 7:04Speaker 2: locker room, Because the guys they brought in in this
- 7:09Speaker 2: class the twenty twenty four have all been locker room editions,
- 7:13Speaker 2: and I've never heard anything bad about Dylan Theeneman in
- 7:18Speaker 2: that way, So you know, I would wouldn't think he's
- 7:20Speaker 2: some sort of a locker room poison either.
- 7:24Speaker 1: And you know, I think the guys in the locker
- 7:26Speaker 1: room know how good people are, and they win against
- 7:29Speaker 1: theenom in this year, they spend a whole week watching film,
- 7:31Speaker 1: I'm sure, so you know this is it's not a
- 7:33Speaker 1: mystery that he is a good player. If we were
- 7:35Speaker 1: talking about it before the game, I would assume that
- 7:37Speaker 1: that's something that came up in the locker room as well.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Buckey's added three safeties in the twenty twenty five recruiting
- 7:43Speaker 1: class for him Delayne, who is like a top sixty
- 7:46Speaker 1: kind of player nationally, plus de Sean Stewart and Cody
- 7:49Speaker 1: had had so they kind of reloaded that room to
- 7:51Speaker 1: a certain degree, those are not guys who you're necessarily
- 7:54Speaker 1: expecting to contribute this year, and theeneman could potentially be
- 7:57Speaker 1: a one year and out guy if he heads it
- 8:00Speaker 1: to the NFL. The other piece of this is you
- 8:03Speaker 1: don't talk about this really yet. We haven't really talked
- 8:06Speaker 1: about any of this yet. But everyone is on basically
- 8:09Speaker 1: a one year deal in the college football world right now.
- 8:12Speaker 1: You know, there's no guarantee that any individual player, no
- 8:15Speaker 1: matter how good a season he had at Ohio State
- 8:17Speaker 1: this year, is guaranteed to come back. Everyone is on
- 8:20Speaker 1: basically an expiring contract, and there's just you know, I'm
- 8:25Speaker 1: sure that drives a lot of people kind of nuts
- 8:27Speaker 1: in the personnel world. But you saw Dylan Stewart, for example,
- 8:31Speaker 1: the defensive end from South Carolina, who is another name
- 8:33Speaker 1: that we've kind of talked about as someone who had
- 8:35Speaker 1: been in an Ohio States wish list. There was a
- 8:38Speaker 1: big post on social media a few days ago that
- 8:41Speaker 1: you know, he's coming back to South Carolina for one
- 8:43Speaker 1: point five million dollars, and it's like, okay, well he
- 8:45Speaker 1: got a new one year deal. But that's kind of
- 8:48Speaker 1: the new reality of college football where yeah, you've got him. Now,
- 8:52Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're back next year, no matter who
- 8:54Speaker 1: they are or what year they are.
- 8:56Speaker 2: And that's why you have to keep saying, presumably Caleb
- 8:58Speaker 2: Downs will be back. We're saying he's going anywhere. But
- 9:01Speaker 2: anybody can leave, and so you can't assume everybody's coming back,
- 9:05Speaker 2: whether you'd like to have them or not. So you
- 9:07Speaker 2: also have to operate that way, not just on podcasts, Tom,
- 9:11Speaker 2: but putting a team together.
- 9:12Speaker 1: As well, not just on podcasts, but also in less
- 9:16Speaker 1: important places such as inside major college football facilities. So
- 9:21Speaker 1: that's a name to know, certainly for Buckeye fans, something
- 9:23Speaker 1: to watch. Dylan Dingeman has a visit coming up in
- 9:25Speaker 1: the next week or so, probably something you know. If
- 9:28Speaker 1: the list stays at two schools, you would assume the
- 9:30Speaker 1: decision would come down relatively quickly after that. But we'll
- 9:34Speaker 1: be following that, We're gonna have many more shows looking
- 9:37Speaker 1: at some other areas of interest. Donny. My understanding is
- 9:40Speaker 1: that there's some interest in Ohio State adding a couple
- 9:42Speaker 1: of players on the offensive lines. We'll have a show
- 9:44Speaker 1: coming up about that as well. Lots to talk about
- 9:47Speaker 1: all this week at Buckeyehuddle Dot com as we talk
- 9:50Speaker 1: about the transfer portal, talk, a little bit of recruiting talk.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Oh yes, by the way, Ohio State has a college
- 9:55Speaker 1: football plaoff game coming up at Ohio Stadium next Saturday,
- 9:59Speaker 1: December twenty, first hit eight pm. Will be there for that.
- 10:01Speaker 1: We'll have full coverage all of that at bucke huddle
- 10:03Speaker 1: dot com and of course at YouTube dot com slash
- 10:06Speaker 1: Buckey Huddle. That'll do it for today. Thank you guys
- 10:08Speaker 1: all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk
- 10:10Speaker 1: to you tomorrow.