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Ian Furness 9/21 H2: Annnnd we Mollywhop plus the Daily Power Play! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star-Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKR-FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: news coming out of Chicago with Caleb Williams and his hamstring.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday, and that means one thing. It's time to mollywop. Uncensored, unscripted,
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  Speaker 1: best Mariners gear. Now with the mollywop boys, Nathan Bishop
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  Speaker 1: and Chris Crawford. With my O-Y, here's Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 2: Mile wide, look who's in studio. Chris Crawford is here.
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  Speaker 2: He's just popped by to say hello. I know he's
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  Speaker 2: running around doing some stuff in the town, so he
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  Speaker 2: came by to say hello. Nathan Bishop, you never came
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  Speaker 2: to come say hi. Yeah, what's up with that, Nathan?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for the invite, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Well, you know, we got some things.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be like next week at T-Mobile
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  Speaker 2: Park after that last game. If you're not invited, that's
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  Speaker 2: probably a... It's probably a bad thing. We're probably just
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  Speaker 2: going to do one segment today. We're going to get
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  Speaker 2: to that next week. I'm guessing, Chris, a week from now,
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  Speaker 2: we should probably have some clarity on who's here, who's not, right?
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  Speaker 4: You have to think so. It would be weird if
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  Speaker 4: they strung it out. And if they strung it out,
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  Speaker 4: it just leads to more, why is this taking so long?
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  Speaker 4: If you haven't figured out whether or not these guys
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  Speaker 4: should be here or not, you probably shouldn't be here.
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  Speaker 4: Like this should be something, right. Whether they've decided that, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: this was just an injury riddled year and we want
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  Speaker 4: to give him another chance or the opposite. They need
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  Speaker 4: to make that decision, and it needs to happen. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they have the Black Monday for coaches. I think we
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  Speaker 4: need to have kind of a Black Monday. Well, and
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  Speaker 4: I think when it's all said and done, it's going
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  Speaker 4: to happen. So I go to MLB.com today. They've got
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  Speaker 4: the tab, you know, the story, playoffs, scenarios, all this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Sales not even mentioned. They're mathematically eliminated from the wild card.
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  Speaker 2: Right. That's over. So they're not mathematically eliminated from the
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  Speaker 2: AL West, so we're good. Nathan, do you want me
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  Speaker 2: to give you the glass half full? This is Ashley's
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  Speaker 2: influence on me. Oh, please, yeah, set me up with it.
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  Speaker 3: You know I love it, Ian, so let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: So we're all kind of looking to say, okay, when
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  Speaker 2: they sweep Houston and da-da-da, Texas is what matters. Texas
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  Speaker 2: is really all that matters right now for Seattle. So
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  Speaker 2: for Seattle to catch Texas, the Rangers would either have
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  Speaker 2: to go 0-6 or 1-5. But even if they go 1-5,
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  Speaker 2: Seattle's kind of in trouble. They'd be tied with them
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  Speaker 2: if Seattle wins out. Because at that point in time,
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  Speaker 2: Seattle goes 5-1. They get 78. Texas loses out. The
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  Speaker 2: math doesn't work. The math almost doesn't work at all
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  Speaker 2: because the tragic number with Texas is 1. Here's how
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  Speaker 2: it can work, though. If Seattle, Houston, and Texas all
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  Speaker 2: finish at 79-83... Or I guess 78-83 could happen as well.
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  Speaker 2: If they all finish tied at 79-83 or 78-84, well,
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners would win the division because they have the
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  Speaker 2: best combined record against each other out of the three.
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  Speaker 5: So you're saying there's a chance.
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  Speaker 2: There's a chance. There's a chance. That snowball is getting
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  Speaker 2: wetter and wetter. Nathan, what do you say about that, fella?
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  Speaker 2: They're still in it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, so I can't decide what we talked already that
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  Speaker 6: the only way that I'm okay with this team going
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  Speaker 6: to the playoffs is if they do it with a
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  Speaker 6: below 500 record. And God, it would just be a
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  Speaker 6: magical thing for this team's first ever World Series appearance
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  Speaker 6: to be after one of the most disappointing regular seasons
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  Speaker 6: in franchise history. But it also would be super funny
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  Speaker 6: to have a team like the Astros or the Rangers.
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  Speaker 6: win the division with 79-80 wins and have them go
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  Speaker 6: on and win the World Series and have the Mariners
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  Speaker 6: have to sit there and think about how if they
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  Speaker 6: had just bothered to be a semi-adequate and competent functioning team,
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  Speaker 6: that could have been them. So either scenario is very
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  Speaker 6: funny to me. I am firmly in the Joker makeup
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  Speaker 6: and just sitting around hanging out here rooting for the
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  Speaker 6: funniest possible outcome because this team doesn't deserve good things.
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  Speaker 6: The people that root for them do, but the team
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  Speaker 6: itself doesn't. They just deserve to kind of sit in
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  Speaker 6: this a little bit, I think. So if something funny
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  Speaker 6: wants to happen in the middle of that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm all for it. The Mets and the Twins are
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  Speaker 2: the final six, three and three for the Rangers. So
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  Speaker 2: as soon as the Rangers win, too, it's over. Or
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  Speaker 2: Seattle loses one. But I just wanted to paint the scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Class half full.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, class half full.
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  Speaker 6: I do think they need to beat the Astros tomorrow
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  Speaker 6: and Wednesday just to put the final stamp on an
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  Speaker 6: absolute year-long ass-kicking of that cursed franchise.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. All right. Nathan, I know you want
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  Speaker 2: to get something off your chest. Before I do that,
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  Speaker 2: I'll give Chris opening comments. I mean, they stink. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's just crazy how they tried.
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  Speaker 4: To hand this vision to them on a platter, and
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  Speaker 4: what they did with that platter was– They stole it
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  Speaker 4: from the Butler and threw it.
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  Speaker 2: Like a ninja star and said, no, thanks. I don't
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  Speaker 2: really want this.
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  Speaker 4: Because everything was here. Like all you had to be
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  Speaker 4: was an average baseball team to win this division and
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  Speaker 4: average baseball team. 81 wins is going to get it done.
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  Speaker 4: That's all you had to do. And 81 wins to
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  Speaker 4: me is not really an average baseball team. That's a
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  Speaker 4: slightly below average team. By definition, it's 500 to have
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  Speaker 4: this golden opportunity to, And to just completely blow it
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  Speaker 4: is one of the funniest and saddest and most Seattle
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  Speaker 4: sports things I've seen in a while. I will admit
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  Speaker 4: I've had fun watching Lazaro Montes. I've had fun watching
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  Speaker 4: Michael Arroyo. I've had a lot of fun re-watching Kate
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  Speaker 4: Anderson on Sunday because, you know, there was a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more important game going on at the same time
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  Speaker 4: as that. But re-watching that start this morning and just
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  Speaker 4: seeing how dominant he was in that start, even against
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  Speaker 4: a Rockies team that is just, Anders, I hope you're listening.
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  Speaker 4: Ten pounds of crap in a five-pound bag.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go.
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  Speaker 7: Ding, ding, ding.
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  Speaker 2: It is just– it's just sad.
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  Speaker 4: It's really sad, and I think that this is going
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  Speaker 4: to be a year we look back on for a
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  Speaker 4: long time for a lot of wrong reasons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I think that's the one– and
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  Speaker 2: we'll get again. We'll do a recap more than likely
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  Speaker 2: depending on– unless we get a three-way– if we get
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  Speaker 2: a three-way tie, then we're doing a playoff preview next Monday.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll kind of– Oh, heck yeah. We'll do that.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's what Joe Sheehan said, and it's the
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  Speaker 2: most disappointing baseball team in this century.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Since 2000, just based on talent expectations. But what should
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  Speaker 2: not be lost is that there are some fun things
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  Speaker 2: to look ahead to. Montez Arroyo, Kate Anderson, Ryan Sloan
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  Speaker 2: at some point coming up next year, hopefully.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: As well, those things can happen. But Nathan, I'll let
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  Speaker 2: you fire away. You want to just go right now?
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  Speaker 2: You want to just get this off your chest? I
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  Speaker 2: know you're pissed off at something. I like a pissed off.
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  Speaker 2: I do, too. We like that a lot. Fire away, fella.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to do this in a way that
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  Speaker 6: gets anybody in trouble, but I just, I had to
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  Speaker 6: say something because we've kind of touched on this a
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  Speaker 6: few points over the year. And, you know, I want
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  Speaker 6: to start by saying that I recognize that there, I
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  Speaker 6: want to talk about the way that this team gets
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  Speaker 6: talked about, which is kind of a meta topic. It
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  Speaker 6: involves a lot of what we think about and how
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  Speaker 6: the messages we want to convey through media. And I
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  Speaker 6: guess Because you guys let me on this show every week.
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  Speaker 6: That technically includes me. And I just think about the
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  Speaker 6: way that I see this team being discussed and the
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  Speaker 6: way that I saw this team being discussed in the
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  Speaker 6: offseason and during this year as it's kind of played
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  Speaker 6: out with all of the hype and the kind of
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  Speaker 6: incredulous nature of the things. And it all kind of
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  Speaker 6: came to head to me this past week. when I
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  Speaker 6: saw a couple of things come up that was, I
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  Speaker 6: saw somebody make a case that the front office shouldn't
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  Speaker 6: be torn apart because it took them five years to
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  Speaker 6: get rid of Jack's forensic stuff. And I saw another
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  Speaker 6: conversation talking about how Randy Orozarena was playing for Randy
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  Speaker 6: Orozarena this year in the middle of having, for the record,
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  Speaker 6: the best left field season both in Mariners history and
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  Speaker 6: and of any left fielder in 2026. And I was
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  Speaker 6: thinking about the way that that happens and where your
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  Speaker 6: brain has to go with that. And Ian, I'm not
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  Speaker 6: talking about the people who cover this team whose bread
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  Speaker 6: gets buttered by having the Mariners be on their side.
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  Speaker 6: I recognize that there are people who need to maintain
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  Speaker 6: channels of connection with the Mariners and can't go out
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  Speaker 6: like me and burn bridges and do all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Those people exist. We've all got to earn our bread.
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  Speaker 6: We have to make a living in order to do that.
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  Speaker 6: But there is, and from my perspective, I've never really
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  Speaker 6: talked about this. I used to cover this team from
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  Speaker 6: what's called outsider media, the blog, the internet. That kind
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  Speaker 6: of thing where we came to it. And when I
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  Speaker 6: did it, we couldn't get media credentials. We couldn't get
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  Speaker 6: press passes to the team. And because of that, we
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  Speaker 6: had to figure out different ways to talk about this
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  Speaker 6: team and a different way to look at this team.
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  Speaker 3: And because we didn't have that access, we had nothing
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  Speaker 3: to lose.
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  Speaker 6: And we were able to cultivate an audience that really
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  Speaker 6: thrived on trusting us to be honest with them, which
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  Speaker 6: is something that I've tried to carry on into this show.
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  Speaker 6: And when I see people saying things like this, that
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  Speaker 6: it took five years to get rid of Jax and
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  Speaker 6: Renzick's guys before Jerry could really do something, as though
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  Speaker 6: Jerry didn't get the job by sitting down with ownership
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  Speaker 6: and saying he could win right away with Jax's guys,
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  Speaker 6: which he could not do. Or I see people trying
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  Speaker 6: to badmouth Randy Orozarena, very conveniently a guy who doesn't
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  Speaker 6: speak English very much, so he's not talking to media
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  Speaker 6: before games, and a guy who's not going to be
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  Speaker 6: here next year, so there's no ramification if you crap
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  Speaker 6: on him.
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  Speaker 3: On him on your way out the door. I just
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  Speaker 3: can't help but wonder.
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  Speaker 6: Was it really worth it to get that access? If
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  Speaker 6: in order to get that access, you have to stop
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  Speaker 6: being honest and true about the reality of what this
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  Speaker 6: franchise is. And again, there are people out there who
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  Speaker 6: need to do that in order to live and to
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  Speaker 6: breathe and to have their bread buttered and supplied for
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  Speaker 6: their family and God bless them.
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  Speaker 3: But if that's not you.
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  Speaker 6: And you cover this team, and you want people to
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  Speaker 6: think about or respect anything that you're saying, maybe take
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  Speaker 6: a long look in the mirror and think about that access.
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  Speaker 6: And if that's really something that's worth it for you,
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  Speaker 6: if it's really making you compromise and say things that
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  Speaker 6: are so demonstrably wrong and false and foolish and kind
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  Speaker 6: of a little bit dog whistling and getting really mildly
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  Speaker 6: offensive in the case of Randy Rosarena, that's all I
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  Speaker 6: really wanted to say, man. We have to have a
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  Speaker 6: real conversation about how this team is covered, the way
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  Speaker 6: we talk about it, and the level of honesty we're
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  Speaker 6: willing to have with ourselves and what access means to
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  Speaker 6: us and how we use that access in order to
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  Speaker 6: convey what's actually going on with this franchise to the
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  Speaker 6: fan base.
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  Speaker 2: I saw one of the clips that you're talking about, too,
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  Speaker 2: on I think it's The King Show, The Ultimate Sports Show,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is, and that particular blogger woman website, what
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  Speaker 2: have you, I thought it was very condescending to any
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  Speaker 2: other fan.
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  Speaker 7: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, I think the one thing we do, like,
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  Speaker 2: and Ashley, you're new to this, I'll ask it. I
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  Speaker 2: think with this show, with Chris and Nate and me,
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  Speaker 2: but like with the two of these guys, I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, critical but fair has always been kind of
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  Speaker 2: our goal. And also understanding that everyone has their own opinion.
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  Speaker 2: There's fans that may agree or disagree. You may be
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  Speaker 2: on the side of the majority or the minority, but.
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  Speaker 2: Don't be– like if people have– I don't know. You've
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  Speaker 2: been listening to it long enough, Ash. Is that accurate?
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  Speaker 2: Is that fair?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's fair.
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  Speaker 7: I mean I don't think that anybody should expect people
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  Speaker 7: to sugarcoat things. But also you can't expect that if
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  Speaker 7: somebody has a more positive opinion that they're a shill
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  Speaker 7: for the organization, right?
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  Speaker 5: It's just kind of– it's got to go both ways.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to go both ways and at the same
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  Speaker 2: time I think it's okay to have discourse and go
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  Speaker 2: back and forth. You know, and you guys don't always agree,
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  Speaker 2: Nathan and Chris, about things. And I think the service–
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  Speaker 2: or the depoto conversation is one we're going to have
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  Speaker 2: next week. And I think it's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: good conversation because I think there's a lot of different
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  Speaker 2: ways to look at where he's at. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: in any way, shape, or form, putting anything towards Randy
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  Speaker 2: Orozarena as blame is ridiculous in my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed.
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  Speaker 2: Like, okay, he didn't hustle for one ball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or he's not the best defensive left fielder.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 2: He's a 5.3 war player right now. Isn't he far
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  Speaker 2: and away your best player?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, blaming him is like, it's just a silly
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  Speaker 4: thing to do. And just want to say, I agree
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  Speaker 4: with everything Nathan said. I've said it multiple times that
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  Speaker 4: the Mariners are as close to state run media as
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  Speaker 4: we have, and that's just not acceptable. And it's some
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  Speaker 4: of it is, you know, we got a little unlucky
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  Speaker 4: that we don't have an athletic person covering the team
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  Speaker 4: from the athletic.
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  Speaker 2: And some of it has to do.
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  Speaker 4: With, I think the fact that, The Mariners are very
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  Speaker 4: comfortable with putting people in position who make them comfortable.
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  Speaker 4: And we have seen those people get more access to
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  Speaker 4: things than others. And I'm not even criticizing anyone individually.
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  Speaker 4: I will say, though, those comments that we were just
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  Speaker 4: talking about were incredibly condescending. The idea that we need
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  Speaker 4: to have patience with the Seattle Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's a stupid thing to say. It's a
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  Speaker 2: stupid thing to say. It's been a decade.
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  Speaker 4: How many franchises have we seen become good, bad, good,
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  Speaker 4: and bad in 10 years?
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  Speaker 2: Like, how many of them, right?
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  Speaker 3: So the idea.
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  Speaker 4: That we should be waiting 10 years and to be patient,
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  Speaker 4: and the idea that a rebuild half of a decade
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  Speaker 4: is what it takes to get, then you're not paying
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  Speaker 4: attention to what other baseball teams have done.
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  Speaker 2: So I am not somebody who's even.
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  Speaker 4: Saying that Jerry DiPoto and Justin Hollander or anybody deserves
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  Speaker 4: to lose their job. Anybody who thinks that they don't
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  Speaker 4: deserve their job is not someone who should be accused
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  Speaker 4: of being reactionary. That's a silly, archaic word to use
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  Speaker 4: for this. You're 11 years into playoff appearances. But there's
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  Speaker 4: a part of me that will look at Michael Arroyo
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  Speaker 4: and Laz Montez, that pitching staff, you know. I don't
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  Speaker 4: give Jerry any credit for Julio because I know who
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  Speaker 4: signed him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The guy got fired later.
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  Speaker 7: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: But I do, you know, the trade for Rosarena was
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  Speaker 2: a great one. Taylor Ward, not so much. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think you can find a lot more good than
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  Speaker 2: bad with the POTO and his regime, but then you
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  Speaker 2: have to ask yourself about results.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a results-based industry. I mean, the process matters,
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  Speaker 4: and the process in some cases have been great. The
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  Speaker 4: processes in some areas have been absolutely unacceptable. So, again,
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  Speaker 4: the whole thing for me is Whether you think Jerry
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  Speaker 4: DiPoto and Justin Hollander deserve more time or not is fine.
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  Speaker 4: Calling anybody who thinks that they don't reactionary is misinformed
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: at best.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: And, Nathan, I mean, if you look through there, like,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: I wasn't going to go down this road, but I
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: guess we will now for a second. So, service, Wilson,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: and then another manager. Three managers in 12 years. Is
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: that the problem?
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: The manager?
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's part of it, right?
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: No.
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, so the thing with Scott Service, and this is,
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: we could talk about this. We should talk about this
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: next week. What's fascinating is Scott Service was hired because
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: he was good friends with Jerry DePoto.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Going back from their days working in the industry.
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: And the idea was that there would be a frictionless
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: relationship between front office and manager. And Scott would just
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: basically be, you know, a conduit for all of this
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: information from the front office. Well, that didn't end up
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: working out over a long enough period of time. Scott
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: developed his own personality, his own whims. He learned how
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: to manage on the fly and kind of figured it
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: all out. But you had this guy that was supposed
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: to be Jerry's guy. And now you've got the polar opposite.
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: We don't know who hired Dan Wilson, but we're fairly
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: certain that it was not Jerry DePoto. Dan is as
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: unprepared to deal with Jerry DePoto in the front office
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: as any manager could be.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: So we've seen both things happen.
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: We've seen Jerry get to pick his guy, and we've
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: seen a guy foisted upon Jerry.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: And so what's the plan with this third guy?
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: Are we just going to go back and let Jerry
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: pick another manager at this point?
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a really– I want to say
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: that if we're going to.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: Do a DePoto conversation next week, there is absolutely a
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: nuanced conversation.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: To have here. He is arguably the greatest manager.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: Major GM slash Pobo, whatever you want to say in
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: franchise history, you can make that case. But I would
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: be happy to do the opposite for you guys next week.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: We will get into all that next week. Chris, let's
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: just talk about something positive before we wrap up today
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: and then next week. I just have a feeling next
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: week we're going to have a lot. I think we're
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: going to have a lot next week. Let's start with
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Kate Anderson. You went back and watched. What did you see?
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, the command was just as close to immaculate
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: as I've seen. 61 of 84 pitches for strikes, but
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: it wasn't just Command and control, not the same thing.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Command is the ability to locate strikes. Control is just
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: the ability to throw them. I mean, he was locating
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: those pitches, and the secondary stuff is so good. He
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: generates so much extension, too. Like, that Merton Hanks neck
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: goes into his build as well, and he just gets
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: on top of hitters so quickly. I mean, the metrics
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: suggest that he's been a lot better than the numbers
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: say they are, but this was kind of the culmination.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: And I know it's the Rockies. I know it's a
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: lineup that is not going to impress too many people,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: but there's good hitters on that team. And he flat
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: out dominated. It was probably the best start I've seen
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: this year. And it gives me so much of all
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: the guys in this rotation who have a chance to
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: be near the top of the rotation.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: This is the first one I feel like actually has
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a chance to be an ace, an.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Actual true bona fide ace, even without the the dominant
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: fastball usually.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's why, cause I talked about this with,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: you know, Sarah's on Thursday. It's like, okay, like this,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the stuff and the stuff, plus all those metrics, like
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have a lot of that, but what you
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: just said is command and everything else puts him in a,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: like kind of makes up for that overcompensates for that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: And I think that his.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Stuff's a little better than maybe the metrics suggest to like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: that's a double plus change. It's a 70 on the 20,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: 80 scouting scale, a very good slider. The fastball is
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: probably 50, but because he commands it so well, it
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: plays up to closer to a 60. And for those unfamiliar,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: the 20, 80 scouting scale, 50 average, 60 plus 70,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: double plus 80 elite.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And there's no 80 there. So that's the one reason
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: why I'm not positive. He'll be in a picture that
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: has an 80. I don't think so. I don't think so.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Um, maybe George Kirby's control at one point was an 80,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: but not anymore. Not anymore. So, uh, I think that
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: he's got enough 70s here that he has a chance
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: to be that guy.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: What do we know about Munoz? Is he done for
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: the year? I don't know. I will tell you this.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I was surprised they used him two times in Colorado
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: because that's a guy who's had issues with dizziness in
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: the past.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: And, That elevation, and I know I can already see
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: the text line saying you're making excuses.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: No.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: There's no excuses for that. I lived in Salt Lake.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: It's a thing. It's a big thing. And Colorado, there's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: a reason why it's the mile-high city. I mean, you
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: can get. So hopefully everything's okay.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I know it hasn't been the year that we wanted
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: from Andres Munoz, but there's really no reason to pitch him.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Again if he's not feeling well. Three-way tie.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Three-way tie, fella. What are you
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Got to get it.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Three-way tie. Nathan, we're wrapping up with this. Just a
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: final thought from you. Final six before we reconvene next week.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: And what are you looking for? What do you want
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to see? Or do you care? Or is it just
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: about Rick Reyes?
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, absolutely. Let's give Rick Rizzo's flowers. What a
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: phenomenal career. What an amazing human being.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: As good of an announcer as he is and has
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: been for so long, you talk to anybody, literally to
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: a person, they will say Rick is a better man
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: than he is a broadcaster, which is a high standard
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: to bear. So well done, sir. You have deserved your retirement.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: As far as what I'm looking for, Chris already alluded
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: to it. I've stopped caring whether this team wins or
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: loses baseball games weeks ago, but I.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Am having a good time watching these young guys do stuff.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: And not just because they're young and not just because
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: they could develop into future things, but because as we've
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: talked ad nauseum, this group.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Hasn't been fun to watch. Well, guess what's really fun to.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Watch is fun to watch when arguably quadruple a slash
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: major league pitcher from Colorado or Los Angeles or Sacramento
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: or whatever is Middle, middle is a fastball to Las
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Montes and he hits it 8,000 feet into space.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Like that's really, really fun.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: And that's what I've been enjoying watching for the last
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: six weeks, uh, for the last couple of weeks and
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: what I'll be looking for for the next six games.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I don't care about the future stuff.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I've seen all these prospects come up and flash before
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: and then fizzle out the next year.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: I'm not looking to 2027, uh, I'm just looking to
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: watch fun guys do fun stuff for a few more
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: days before we say goodbye to baseball.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Totally fair. 25-34 second half of the season, this baseball team.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And if you want to look at where it's been lost,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of different ways. Defensively, metrics there are
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: awful and everything else. What are you looking for in
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the final six? Ah, the sweet release of death. It
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: is just, I'm sorry, man. This just has not been
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: a fun year. And I, I, I pray.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I really, really would love for that three-way scenario or
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Texas to completely STB. And somehow the Mariners are hosting
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: whoever that six seat is. Hell, maybe it would be
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: the Rangers somehow getting that succeed. But like, I just, I'm,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I'm ready for, I'm ready for change. I'm ready for that.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: That fire. I'm ready for that cleansing rebirth that I
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: think comes with 2027, and I'm really.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Hoping it comes. I'm hoping we have a 2027. Oh,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that's a good point, too. See, that's the other thing.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: The Mets, by the way, taking on the Rangers. The
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Mets are eliminated from everything in the National League. They're 71-85.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: So to think that the Rangers won't win at least one,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: maybe two in that series and finish it off is,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine that would be the case. You never know.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You never know. I gave you the scenario. You gave
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: me the scenario.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: I listened to your guys' whole thing, and all I
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: took from it is that we're going to the playoffs.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: Hell yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: We're going to the playoffs.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's what I got.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I got. Can you imagine our show next Monday?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: It'd be so funny. What the hell just happened?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: It'd be so funny.
• 21:50
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• 21:51
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  Speaker 2: want to get on here real quick in the next
• 22:42
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• 22:44
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• 22:46
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• 23:05
  Speaker 2: All right, we're back. Shorter Molly Wap. We're going to
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: spend Molly Wap next week. We'll be the end of this. Well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: maybe not. We'll be talking about the playoffs. The playoffs.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Three-way tie.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Playoffs?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Playoffs.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to happen.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Can't wait.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really?
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: No, it's probably not. But you know what?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: It's not over yet.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Stay on this wagon until the wheels fall off.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: It's not over yet, but it. And by the way,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: those teams don't play tonight, so I should point that out.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: So it'll extend at least until tomorrow. Astros and Houston, well,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Houston obviously here. Astros start their series of the Mets tomorrow.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: So we'll get to that then.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: The disappointment of this season goes without saying, but we
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: have the football team. And that's a good thing. That's
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: a really good thing. And it's the opposite of the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: way people feel about the football team compared to other
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: teams in town is so different. But I think one
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: of the things I thought of this weekend, Ashley, is
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: that as we watch what Seattle's doing in the NFL
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and Schneider and company, and we throw bouquets their way
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and flowers and yes, hey, they're great and they're doing
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: all these things. And why can't the other teams do that?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that the other teams aren't trying. It's
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: not lack of trying. It's just you have the right
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: people in place. And what the Seahawks have shown is, man,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the person at the top is everything. And I'm not
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: talking ownership. I'm talking about the GM. John Schneider, they
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: made this incredibly difficult decision three years ago, three and
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a half years ago now, to make a change. And
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: they chose Schneider over Pete Carroll.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Imagine if they hadn't done that. Imagine if they went
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the other way.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, I honestly can't.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I think we'd be having a really difficult discussion about
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: where the football team is right now.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: I think, yeah, we wouldn't have been celebrating the Super
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: Bowl last year.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: No, no. And that brings you to Jerry. I think,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm just so torn on this, I could make
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: an argument either way. I always thought with the Seahawks,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and I think even when Pete was here, covering all
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the drafts, being around those guys week to week, here
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: and there, everywhere across the country, I always really felt
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: like And none of us were behind the scenes. We
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: saw during hard knocks how different things are behind the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: closed doors where none of the media can go. But
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I always kind of felt like, hey, Pete is, yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: ultimately in charge and makes the final decisions. And he's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: probably the guy pushing for a Jamal Adams trade or
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: what have you. But John Schneider made all the decisions
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: that built the football team. And not all were perfect.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: His drafts from 2015 through 2020 or so, not very good.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: But that brings me to Jerry. And this is where
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I'm really torn. Some really good, really good stuff there.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: But two playoff appearances in 11 years, it's still about
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the results.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And the results aren't there.
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: I do think, and as much as we were talking
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: about what some people are saying and how there needs
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: to be, you know, the absurd things that some media people.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Were saying, there was, I mean, I will say the
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: one thing, yes, you can look at Jerry's tenure as
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: a whole and that he's been here 11 years and
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: we only have two playoff appearances, but We've got two
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: playoff appearances in the.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: 20s, right?
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: So it's in the last five years?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: And none in the first half. So there has been
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: an improvement, I will say. I don't think Jerry's off
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: the hook for.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: What's going on.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: I don't think that it was just Jerry's decision to
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: hire Dan Wilson. I definitely think that came from a collaborative.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Group.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I don't think Jerry was like, no, I want Dan,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: and that's it, and everyone just said okay.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I would agree, and I think when they do make
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the changes, which... Listen, I mean, the manager and the
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: coaching staff is going to be out. I don't think
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: there's any doubt about that. I don't think there's any
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: way you can run it back and sell that to
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: this market and this fan base.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: People will lose their ever-loving minds.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: You just can't. So whatever changes, significant changes are made
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: next Sunday night, Monday morning, whenever it is, I believe
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and I hope that we hear not just from Jerry
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and Justin– this is where John Stanton or Chris Larson
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: or whoever, but John Stanton is the face of the
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: ownership group. He's got to sit in front of the media.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: He's got to sit in front. He's got to answer.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: He's got to answer some questions. I mean, he's got
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: to answer some questions.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: But do you think he really will?
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't, I like, you know what
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I'm really now softy. And I kind of, we're talking
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: about this off the air and disagreeing a little bit. What,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: what I hope does not happen. I hope they don't
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: do the, Hey, last minute on a weekend afternoon when
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: there's like four media people there and everyone else has covered.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just, The way the media works right now,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: everyone's thin-staffed, whether it be TV, newspapers, what have you.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: But certainly TV and radio and others that aren't on
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: a beat. There's only one beat writer, and that's whoever
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the time sends that one day, and that would be
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Jude or Ryan. And a couple people that they like blog-wise,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I hope it's not, hey, Jerry's going to have a
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: little meeting here in the dugout in 10 minutes for
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: end of the season. Because that's not being accountable to
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: your fan base. I think John Stanton needs to answer
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: some questions. I think the big question is who hired
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, right?
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: No, I would agree.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: And who's hiring the next.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Manager who hired him.
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: And why was it that we decided that that was
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: the route to go all season long.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: And, and, and in the next step is who's on
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Cause if it's, Oh, we're going through the same process again.
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: And actually we've already figured it out. Cal's going to
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: be our new manager because we're not looking outside the organization.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Big dumper is catching tonight, making all the pitching changes.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: He'll really enjoy the DH games. At least he can
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: do more than.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Player coach. God, player coach Dan Wilson. I love it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Or Dan, or Cal Raleigh. Well, I think, yeah, all
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that stuff is true. And I think when you look at,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you know, I want to know who's hiring the next manager. No,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I agree. Because we all believe that this one was
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: hired by ownership and not by Jerry.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Now, we may not get the right answer. We may
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: not get the honest answer because I'll go back to
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: when Ryan Grubb was hired. And then when Ryan Grubb
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: was fired and the news conference, I was sitting out
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: there with Greg and those guys, and I think it
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: was Greg asked Mike McDonald, he goes, well, are you
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: going to hire the OC? Because everyone knows Schneider hired
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Ryan Grubb. Right, obviously, because he liked him even before that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: He liked him before that, and he hired Ryan Grubb,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: who then hired Scott Huff. the offensive line coach. And
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: it was a disaster. And Mike, like a great teammate
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and a great employee, took the bullet. Oh, no, that
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: was me. 100%. I got kind of agitated when the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: insinuation was he didn't have the– no, but he didn't. Right.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: But then he got to hire a guy. He hired Kubiak.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: That turned out okay. Oh, by the way, how are
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the Raiders doing? Not bad.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're pretty decent. Who knew?
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: So I want to know that. I think we want
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to know that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: I think that's a fair thing for us to be
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: given an answer to and how that process went about
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: and how the process will go this time.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Not just who's doing it, but how's the process.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: We'll send Bento down there to ask the hard questions.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Bento to the box.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Actually, what I hope it is, I hope it's at
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: a time where my friend Dave Mahler can go down.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: That won't go well. Let him and Levine start firing
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: questions off.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Benton would be like, Hey, guys. Mike Benton over here.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: KJR.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: KJR Radio. Kraken Hockey Network.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Just, you know, great job. Great job. But there are
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: some concerns.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Because he's just so nice. He's so nice.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: So nice.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: God, he's so good. He's got two games under his
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: belt already this year with the Kraken. Speaking of which,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: we'll do a quick little daily PowerPoint. We'll get back
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: to football. Mike Sandoz is going to join us at
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: 1 o'clock. God, the NFL, man. Never, ever, ever stops
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: or ceases to entertain, right? I mean, you're looking around
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: this league right now. There are some bad football teams.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: There are some surprising football teams. There are teams that
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: if you look at it, you're like, how did that just–
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: the Chargers at 0-2? Houston 0-2?
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: There are some teams that I can't figure out if
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: they're bad or not, and it was really ugly watching
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: some of those games, but boy, was it entertaining.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Houston 0-2 is nuts. That's like, like that.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: It was like, they're going to have the best defense
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: in the league. They're going to be there.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: Somebody had them picked to go to the Super Bowl.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: I wonder how many 0-2 teams have gone to the
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: That's probably an AI thing. You could probably find that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I probably could.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: By the way, Tampa Bay 0-2 as well.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: To the Browns.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: They lost to the Browns.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Survivor. Didn't survive week one.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Well, you didn't know there was going to be a
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: mini-hurricane coming through mid-game.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think that mattered.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: No, really.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: They were already losing. They were already down. They were
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: already losing. We'll take a break, come back, and check
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: in with Sando at the top of the hour. Here
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: come the Kraken. Down a.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Shot.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: He scores!
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: He scores!
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: He scores!
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: 3-1 Seattle.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: He scores! This is the Daily Power Play.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: The Power Play.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Kraken hockey, baby. Montour off the bench.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: Score!
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: On your home to the Kraken, Sports Radio 93.3, KJR-FM. Hey, hey,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: what do you say?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: The Seattle Kraken.
• 32:20
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• 32:23
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• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Now, your daily look at.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: The National Hockey League and the Seattle Kraken with Ian Furness.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: All right, Daily Power Play. Just a quick one day.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I know it's Football Monday. Just a real quick note.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Kraken made a whole bunch of roster moves today. Literally 90%
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: of the guys that played the two preseason games Saturday
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: and Sunday sent down in some way, shape, or form
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: to Coachella. It's kind of like baseball. Some guys have
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: to go through waivers to get to the minors. Some
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: guys don't. Some guys are released and then re-signed. As
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it stands right now, though, this is the only additions
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to the team. Mackie Samuskiewicz, a right winger we got
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: from Florida in the offseason for a first-round pick, by
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the way. And perhaps Oscar Fisker-Mulgaugh, but he was here
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: last year. Curtis Douglas, big fella as well, like More
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: than likely, only two players that didn't play here last
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: year at some point will be on the roster when
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: they open things up a week from Thursday. So there are– yeah,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: and they didn't make the playoffs. I know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: They didn't come close to making the playoffs.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: They did, and then they fell off.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: They were close for a little while.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: They were close for– yeah. Then it went south. The
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: final month went south.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it really did.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Anyway, yes, it did. I'm reliving that all of a
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: sudden through my mind. Now, they're kind of the opposite
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: of the baseball team. Not a lot of expectations, unfortunately.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Not a lot of excitement, unfortunately. Maybe they'll be the
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: opposite of the baseball team and surprise everybody.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: I would love that.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: In a positive way. I would love that. As opposed
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: to what we just saw. But yeah, they sent most
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: of their young guys down. Jake O'Brien's still here. First
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: round pick from a year ago. He'll probably get some
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: time on Thursday. The coaches are kind of like... I
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: think there's only 25 guys left on the roster right now.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: They keep 23. The coaches here are kind of like
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: when the NFL went from four to three games in
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the preseason.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: These guys went from six to four. They're trying to
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: figure out how do you navigate it. Well, the way
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: they did this weekend, they just played young guys. That's
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: all they did.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: They played all young guys. Mahura a little bit, Fleury
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but for the most part, they just
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: played Ron Winterton, who established himself last season. But by
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: and large, it was young guys. Yeah. And kids are
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: now on their way back to Coachella or a major junior,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: wherever it might be. So. We'll see what they got.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: They have one more preseason game at home. That's Thursday.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Then they go to Vancouver on Saturday. And then, again,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: a week from Thursday, the season begins. And we'll have
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: hockey here as well. So there you go. 49451 is
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the Tacoma Dodge text line.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: 49451.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: How great is it to be a Seahawks fan right now?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: That's pretty great. That was muttered to me more than
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: one time yesterday. And I should stick it back to
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the time. you know, the glory years of the early
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll era, you know, you're basically year three on,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: because it took him, remember it took him three years. Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Like it took Pete, like year one, they, they pulled
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: an AL West and snuck in with a seven to
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: nine record beast quake game against the saints before getting
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: beat up on in Chicago the next week, they missed
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the playoffs the next year with the same record. And
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: then they get there in 2012 and kind of off
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: and running. So year three was big. Year two was
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: big for Mike McDonald. This one feels more sustainable than,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And maybe it's just the personality of the team, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: it feels more sustainable.
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: It doesn't feel like we have all the egos that
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: we had at that time, which was a big problem.
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: Not a problem, but that was something that wasn't going
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: to be able to last forever.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: And guys were going to get paid.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Right now, it feels like they've really done a hell
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: of a job navigating the salary cap and getting themselves
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: in line for things. Witherspoon under contract, Leo under contract,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: JSN under contract.
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, Derek Hall under contract and not even for
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: as much as he could have gotten.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: As he could have gotten. You made the decision on
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Moffay and Hall to call. You made the decision on
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: draft a running back or go get Ken Walker. And
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I know that's the only thing haunting this team right
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: now is watching that son of a gun go crazy.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Just go nuts. And, I mean, we're only two games in,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: but healthy. He's very healthy.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: 24 carries again yesterday. 117, almost five yards a carry.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: He looks spectacular, but you know what? Good for him.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Good for him. I'm glad he's doing well. You can't
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: keep everybody in the NFL. But this one feels sustainable.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: This one feels sustainable. So we'll get your thoughts on
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: what happened this weekend. 49451 coming up as well. That's
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: at 2.30.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: 2.35.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: You've got this.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: You've got this.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I loved Ashley's text to me on Friday. Factor Fiction
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: hates you. Yes, it does.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: It did seem like it because I was like, wow,
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: that one seems exceptionally mean.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I had a 21-point first half lead. In one game.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: With a 24-point spread.
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: Hey, you got two right, or we got two right
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: as a show.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: You did, and thank you for that.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: So you got one and I got one.
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: So you got one right.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: And it was a good one.
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: Ole Miss plus the three versus LSU.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: And I put my money where my mouth was on Friday, too,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: by the way. Or on Saturday. I was at the
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma Casino. I was sicko live betting that thing all
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: over the place. All right, we'll take a break. Come back.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Mike Sando, what's going on in the NFL? He's got
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: some Hall of Fame stuff, too. Interesting notes, but we'll
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: go around and take a tour of the National Football
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: League Week 2 with Mike Sando coming up next.