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Irene King: Aviation Expert on Boeing pleading guilty to defrauding regulators · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Boeing have have pleaded, I should say, guilty to criminal
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  Speaker 1: fraud after the company violated a deal that was meant
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  Speaker 1: to reform it following two fatal seven three seven Max
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  Speaker 1: crashes that killed three hundred and forty six passengers in
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. You'll remember those. The company
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  Speaker 1: will have to pay nearly four hundred million New Zealand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: The families of the victims have criticized the decision, calling
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  Speaker 1: it a sweetheart deal that would allow Boeing to avoid
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  Speaker 1: responsibility for the deaths. Mark Lindquist is the lawyer for
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  Speaker 1: some of those families. Fo one hundred and forty six
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  Speaker 1: people died in those two crashes. Therefore, a pleader manslaughter
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  Speaker 1: would be more fitted. Joining me this morning is the
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  Speaker 1: aviation commentator Irene king Iron. Good morning. What is your
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  Speaker 1: reaction to this?
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  Speaker 2: Look, it's a very substantial Oh fine, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: right the actual maximum. But really, you know, you can
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  Speaker 2: find these companies. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: what we're more interested in is does it promote or
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  Speaker 2: does it improve the performance in aviation safety of the company,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think it goes anywhere near.
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  Speaker 1: That Well, it clearly doesn't, does it, because this follows
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one judgment, which where they agreed to
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  Speaker 1: again in lieu of going to court, pay a fine,
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  Speaker 1: pay a penalty, and then they were supposed to have this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, monitoring for three years. They've now breached that
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  Speaker 1: monitoring and here we are with another fine. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: why aren't they going after these guys in court?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the problems is the monitoring
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  Speaker 2: is the failure, and the monitoring is by the FAA
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  Speaker 2: is not actually bowing Now. I'm not excusing Boeing because
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, there are some big performance issues
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  Speaker 2: in Boweling, but you know, can the federal administration eshuygoers
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  Speaker 2: for itself because the are the ones that failed with
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  Speaker 2: the monitoring, And the answer very clearly is no. So
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  Speaker 2: the fine process in the United States is very significantly
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  Speaker 2: different from here. Now, if we put it into the
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand context, the management of this company would be
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  Speaker 2: in jail now, there's no question about that under our
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  Speaker 2: health and safety legislation. But you know, the FAA and
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  Speaker 2: the federal system is very different, and this is about
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  Speaker 2: a failure of a federal system. And so you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit pointless, really.
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  Speaker 1: I do we not inherit the safety features of aircraft
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  Speaker 1: that are developed in the United States? You know, should
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  Speaker 1: we be worried about right?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Absolutely? And the question should we be worried
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  Speaker 2: about the performance of Boeing? I think, Look, there's there's
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  Speaker 2: some big question marks, but it comes back to the
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  Speaker 2: leadership and who they put in there as the chief
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  Speaker 2: executive and how they lead and how they think about safety. Now,
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  Speaker 2: as I say in New Zealand, here, if this company
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  Speaker 2: was located here, on the one hand, we have accs,
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  Speaker 2: so you can't flee them. But on the other hand,
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  Speaker 2: we have health and safety and these people would be
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  Speaker 2: subject to an enormous fine and they would end up
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  Speaker 2: in jail. There is no question about that.
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  Speaker 1: Irene King, thank you very much every time this morning
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  Speaker 1: aviation commentator Irene King's saying that Boeing were they to
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  Speaker 1: be practicing here in the way that they were in
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