Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Floyd du Plessis: Corrections Association President on the lack of capacity in the face of the Government's sentencing law reforms
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Tougher sentences on the way for the courts forty percent
- 0:02Speaker 1: sentence reduction cap New aggravating factors that will increase sentences
- 0:06Speaker 1: potentially includes offenses against people working alone, that's your dairies,
- 0:10Speaker 1: those whose home and businesses are attached. Change is set
- 0:13Speaker 1: to increase. They think the prison population by somewhere between
- 0:16Speaker 1: about fourteen hundred ish to seventeen hundred ish annually for
- 0:20Speaker 1: the next ten years. Corrections Association President Floyd Duplas's backward
- 0:23Speaker 1: Floyd morning, Good morning. Are you looking to be inundated
- 0:27Speaker 1: with new prisoners do you think? Or we just don't know.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We definitely expect a increase. Will it be as large
- 0:36Speaker 2: as that?
- 0:36Speaker 1: We just don't know unless they build new spaces. Are
- 0:39Speaker 1: you full?
- 0:42Speaker 2: We are currently full with what's open. So there is
- 0:46Speaker 2: ran another two thousand beds in theory available, but we're
- 0:51Speaker 2: not staffed for it as yet.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Okay. And staffing and recruitment, I think Mark Mitchell was
- 0:55Speaker 1: in front of somebody last week in the Scrutiny Week thing.
- 0:57Speaker 1: He said there's a lot of applications. Recruitment's going reasonably well.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Is that true or not?
- 1:04Speaker 2: There are a lot of applications. One of the concerns
- 1:07Speaker 2: we still have is while having a lot of applications
- 1:12Speaker 2: sounds good, how many of those applications of viable candidates
- 1:15Speaker 2: and actually go through to employment? And that number has improved,
- 1:20Speaker 2: but it's definitely not as high as it needs to be.
- 1:22Speaker 1: So that campaign seems to on the surface anyway, to
- 1:25Speaker 1: have worked. The big ag campaign that's run about being
- 1:27Speaker 1: a corrections officer.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Yeah, so the recent campaign, they definitely did improve things.
- 1:33Speaker 2: It gave a slightly more honest opinion on the fact
- 1:36Speaker 2: that staff do do things. So it has helped and
- 1:42Speaker 2: has improved. What we do need though, is we need
- 1:44Speaker 2: a bit more of a focus on getting real people
- 1:47Speaker 2: in through the door and into employment.
- 1:50Speaker 1: What interesting me about the debate we're having at the moment.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I mean, you get more prisoners, what are we doing
- 1:53Speaker 1: in this country? Are we doing that to put them
- 1:56Speaker 1: away to rehab them so they don't go back again,
- 1:58Speaker 1: or are we just simply putting them away to sober
- 2:00Speaker 1: problem for now? What's your view?
- 2:03Speaker 2: Unfortunately historically we just put them away to solve the problem.
- 2:07Speaker 2: It's something that does need a massive overhall. I know
- 2:11Speaker 2: the Minister has stated that he's got a big focus
- 2:14Speaker 2: on that and to improve the access two programs and
- 2:17Speaker 2: meaningful change. So that is something that they have committed
- 2:21Speaker 2: to work on, but it is a piece of work
- 2:23Speaker 2: that absolutely is needed. We have a history of putting
- 2:27Speaker 2: people in, pretending to rehab them and then sending them
- 2:30Speaker 2: out and it's a ritis cycle. And so yes, it
- 2:32Speaker 2: is something needs a massive focus.
- 2:34Speaker 1: If you stuck me in prison today and I want
- 2:36Speaker 1: to be rehabbed, can I be and successfully and will? No?
- 2:41Speaker 2: There is only a very small portion of the population
- 2:44Speaker 2: that does get meaningful rehab and a change. But it
- 2:48Speaker 2: is a very small portion and that's the problem. It
- 2:50Speaker 2: needs to be a far more widespread and it needs
- 2:53Speaker 2: to be more targeted to the reality of what jobs
- 2:56Speaker 2: are out there. So giving some of our program it
- 2:59Speaker 2: says how you need to be you're nicer person. It's
- 3:01Speaker 2: all going well, but we need to give them skills
- 3:04Speaker 2: and training and areas where they will get employment and
- 3:07Speaker 2: that's the big change that is needed.
- 3:09Speaker 1: All right, Bloyd, appreciate your INSIGHTE Floyd douplus Ce Corrections Association,
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