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NFL Week 1 Cash Show | September 6, 2024 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Them spermbers.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? Everyone? Welcome to the Ship at
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  Speaker 2: Nation Cash Game Show for Week one of the NFL season.
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  Speaker 2: We are back. I guess, as a kids say nowadays,
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  Speaker 2: we are so back. You have to add in this
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  Speaker 2: soa to to fit in with the younger crowd. We
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  Speaker 2: are so back. Feels so good. First game obviously last
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  Speaker 2: night was Man, it's gonna be hard to top this
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  Speaker 2: NFL season because that was a really really good game
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  Speaker 2: from an entertainment standpoint. If you watch that video in
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  Speaker 2: the opening, very successful showdown slate for Team ship at Nation.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of big wins right out of the gate,
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  Speaker 2: which is good to see. Community was on point last night,
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  Speaker 2: and the show that we did yesterday covering the show
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  Speaker 2: down slate, I think was pretty solid in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the path and potential plays and whatnot. But yeah, we're
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  Speaker 2: here to talking cash. It's not like any other cash show.
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  Speaker 2: We have a guy in the show that is grinding
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  Speaker 2: cash every single slate, not only NFL, but he's in
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  Speaker 2: the cash streets all the time. It's my guy title.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll be here every Friday at this time, one
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  Speaker 2: pm Eastern, same guys, same time. And we did a
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  Speaker 2: little less year right at this time slot as well.
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  Speaker 2: So Brennavant straight back and like I said, joined by title,
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  Speaker 2: we'll be here all season talking cash games each and
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  Speaker 2: every week. Title. What's going on? I know you're very
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  Speaker 2: excited about NFL. We're back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're back.
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  Speaker 4: That feels weird, Like I don't know what the kids
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  Speaker 4: do anymore. I'm out of that. You teach me with
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  Speaker 4: your own kids what the kids actually say. So we're
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  Speaker 4: so back. I don't know if I'm would be saying
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  Speaker 4: that much. My man John here, we're so so back.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I'm seeing. They're so so so back, And
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  Speaker 2: maybe that'll be our thing. We'll go, we'll add in
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  Speaker 2: the extra so we'll say so. The kids nowadays have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of different things. And my daughter is now
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  Speaker 2: middle school, so she's coming home with, you know, all
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  Speaker 2: this lingo and all these terms that they're using. But
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  Speaker 2: the funniest one, it just reminded me. She came home
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  Speaker 2: it might have been last year when she was in
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  Speaker 2: sixth grade, and everyone says bro. Like the boys say bro,
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  Speaker 2: the girls call each other bro. So if she's talking
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  Speaker 2: to her her girlfriends, they say bro. So I started
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  Speaker 2: calling her bro and She's like, she's like, you say bro.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that word, that term and how you're
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  Speaker 2: using it has been around since when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 2: We were saying bro. She's like, you don't know what
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  Speaker 2: bro means. I was like, yeah, I know what bro means,
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  Speaker 2: but it is kind of funny. But yeah, it's we
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  Speaker 2: are so back. So if you're looking for the term,
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  Speaker 2: we are so back and according to it to our
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  Speaker 2: guy Johnny and here, we're so so back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you passing the lingo I here as wild.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad I'm out of that space a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: but hey, we are back for sure. Spree money Sunday,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of sleeps away. We got content today though,
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  Speaker 4: Packers as you see go collect. I gotta rep my team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it turned into a Jersey week for me because it
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  Speaker 4: had to be McKenny yesterday with the cheese playing, I
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  Speaker 4: could not wear Packers not I think Sunday. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: gonna keep the tradition. So week one Jerseys after that. Nothing,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm excited to talk some cash. I mean
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  Speaker 4: ninety six percent of my action I'll just say maybe
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  Speaker 4: even more. Isn't cash games every week on multiple sites,
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  Speaker 4: so there's still an edge.
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  Speaker 3: It's a grind, no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 4: I will say Week one pricing has went out for
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  Speaker 4: a while pretty concentrated. I think it's fairly straightforward at
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  Speaker 4: multiple positions, which means one D one's, two V two's,
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  Speaker 4: three v threes, which.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't the most fun.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe it is a little better week to go,
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  Speaker 4: a little more tournaments, a little less cash. Again, I'll
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  Speaker 4: still be in there and definitely want to mention FanDuel.
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  Speaker 4: We'll talk Fandel and DraftKings. FANDLE does include Sunday night
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  Speaker 4: football and no better week to start it off. Your
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  Speaker 4: line's taken on the RAMS biggest total the week at
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  Speaker 4: fifty two. That is going to be important. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: as you see right up there too, definitely read that
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  Speaker 4: yellow MMA. As you guys know, MMA, Saturdays, I'm in
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  Speaker 4: there always, so if it's a late card, I'm doing
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  Speaker 4: NFL work while doing that, so it'll be up Saturday
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  Speaker 4: night then otherwise, regardless of an early card, I'll have
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  Speaker 4: it up sometimes Saturday afternoon night, but always subject to
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  Speaker 4: change Sunday morning and all that will be in yellow.
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  Speaker 3: If it's within the last hour, I'll take the NFL
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  Speaker 3: Chat yep.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And so how this works in terms of our content,
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  Speaker 2: this is the show we do every week. Later said,
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  Speaker 2: and the goal for this show, I would say, would
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  Speaker 2: be to start to develop that cash player pool, like
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  Speaker 2: potential guys at each position, And that's kind of how
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  Speaker 2: the show will go. We're gonna go position by position.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk quarterbacks on DK, We'll talk quarterbacks on FanDuel,
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  Speaker 2: running backs on DK, running backs on FanDuel, go back
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  Speaker 2: and forth, cover it all, start to develop that player pool,
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  Speaker 2: and then you come back Saturday night Sunday morning, and
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  Speaker 2: this is what you get as a paid subscriber. It
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  Speaker 2: would be four cores on DK, four cores on on
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  Speaker 2: fan Duel, and then obviously if you follow the rest
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  Speaker 2: of our content, you'll be able to fill out the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the team this week a little bit. And
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  Speaker 2: that's how I would always is for for week one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's usually a pretty clear path in terms
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  Speaker 2: of what you're gonna do. The one thing that that
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  Speaker 2: definitely stands out to me in terms of cash games
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  Speaker 2: this week is a lot of the high priced studs.
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  Speaker 2: We have some wide receivers but are off the main slip.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you have these primetime games. You got the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: the Ravens, the Packers, the Eagles tonight and we take it. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So there's just a lot fewer paths. There's you know
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  Speaker 2: a couple of clear spends obviously, but man, it's and
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  Speaker 2: then you're throw in soft pricing too. It's always soft
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  Speaker 2: pricing week one of the NFL season to get those
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  Speaker 2: GPPs filled up and you get a pretty clear path.
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  Speaker 2: But any like initial thoughts outside of that, I know
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  Speaker 2: you said it is, it is pretty clear, But anything
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  Speaker 2: else stand out to you? For one or just cash
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  Speaker 2: games in general throughout the entire NFL season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, each week is kind of different in cash games.
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  Speaker 4: One thing that we were way ahead of the curve on.
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  Speaker 4: I've been talking cash with you for years now. Receivers
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  Speaker 4: in the flax, everyone just automatically put running backs. Especially
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  Speaker 4: this is more so on DraftKings full point PPR. Fandals
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  Speaker 4: still have point, which leans more to touchdowns, which usually
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  Speaker 4: more touchdown equity at running backs.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean the league has changed.
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  Speaker 4: When we started talking cash years ago, I mean there
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  Speaker 4: was workhorse backs still.
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  Speaker 3: People were against twenty five touches a game.
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  Speaker 4: Nowadays, as we saw yesterday with the Ravens and z Flowers.
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  Speaker 3: Like a run play is a.
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  Speaker 4: Screen right away, get it screen pass two linemen go
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  Speaker 4: out with a wide receiver screen like, that's a full
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  Speaker 4: point right there. That's ten yards it takes to run.
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  Speaker 4: So receivers have been more king. Sometimes double tight end
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  Speaker 4: works too, because the lowest price that tight end can
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  Speaker 4: be is twenty five hundred, whereas receivers, whereas running backs
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  Speaker 4: is four K, receivers is three K. So you sometimes
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  Speaker 4: do get like a double punt tight end. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think that's the that's the route this week, but when
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  Speaker 4: you want to jam in like stunts are just underpriced.
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  Speaker 3: Tyreeks shouldn't be under nine k. But when you get the.
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  Speaker 4: Jefferson's of the world, tyer reeks to the world, CDs
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  Speaker 4: of the world, cemac on the slates, and you want
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  Speaker 4: to go stars and scrubs, sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Double tight end is viable.
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  Speaker 4: But I'd say I play the most wide receiver in
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  Speaker 4: the flex nowadays Undraftkings.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yes, over you're definitely one of the first
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  Speaker 2: doing it. I mean a lot of it was always
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  Speaker 2: you know, three running backs, no matter what you know
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  Speaker 2: able to to see, you know, for two main reasons.
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  Speaker 2: You know why wide receivers and tight ends are a
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  Speaker 2: little more viable in the flex. A lot of teams
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  Speaker 2: going into multiple running backs. It's very easy to see.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you probably see more of it, honestly, Uh
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  Speaker 2: this this season. That's you know, probably the biggest differential
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  Speaker 2: is you just don't have the workhorse backs and then
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  Speaker 2: yeah you have those those those slates where you know
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  Speaker 2: you want the studs, you can go to the tight end,
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  Speaker 2: but you know so many teams going to running back
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  Speaker 2: by committee. Mixing in multi edisad. Even last night, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Justice Hill had a legitimate role and we talked about
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  Speaker 2: it on the show. I mean it wasn't gonna be
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  Speaker 2: Justice Hill just kind of you know, coming in there
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  Speaker 2: for third doubts. I think it's in like the second
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  Speaker 2: play of the game. I mean they let Henry get
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  Speaker 2: the first run play, then Justice Hill was right in there.
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  Speaker 2: So even guys that you think are going to be workhorsebacks,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's majority of teams there's someone right there, look
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  Speaker 2: and that's going to get some of that work. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're definitely out of the curve on you know, not
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  Speaker 2: automatically just jamming three running backs in there, especially on DK,
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  Speaker 2: but it's becoming more viable a little more viable on
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  Speaker 2: FanDuel as well. And then teams are obviously going to
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  Speaker 2: to passing more like go Kluck said, those those little
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  Speaker 2: what I call the screen passes or not screen passes,
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  Speaker 2: but the you know where they just tossed it out
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  Speaker 2: them real quick and the guys are instantly blocking.
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  Speaker 3: I call it a wide receiver screen.
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  Speaker 4: Just the number of games rogers play sometimes to just
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  Speaker 4: get it out beat one man.
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  Speaker 2: hard on this one throughout the off season. So NFL
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  Speaker 2: we'll start here. We're going to start at quarterbacks. I
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  Speaker 2: have it sorted by just projected points. I mean a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times we're looking for when you're playing cash games,
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  Speaker 2: you're looking for who's the best value with the soft
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  Speaker 2: pricing this week, and not many guys, you know, not
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  Speaker 2: many studs on the slate. I think we can kind
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: of look at just raw projection fantasy points and also
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  Speaker 2: value as well. But if you just look at the
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  Speaker 2: raw projected fantasy points, Josh Allen at Ak is at
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  Speaker 2: the top. CJ. Stroud seventy five hundred is the second.
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  Speaker 2: We have Burrow Richardson at at sixty three. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of cheap options that you can go to, you got
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  Speaker 2: to spend somewhere. So at quarterback, if you do sort
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  Speaker 2: by value, Jaden Daniels is the top option. Has obviously
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  Speaker 2: looked really, really good in the preseason. He's cheap fifty
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred. He can get there on the ground. Baker
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  Speaker 2: Mayfield at fifty six, Gino Smith at fifty five, Anthony Richardson.
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  Speaker 2: These guys are showing up as the best values. Who
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  Speaker 2: are some guys that we can look at for cash games?
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  Speaker 2: Quarterback position on DraftKings.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it easy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm playing Richardson unless something pretty dramatic changes. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the dudes was an absolute baller last year when he
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  Speaker 4: wasn't when he was healthy. The problem with him is
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  Speaker 4: like it's more season long best ball because he loves
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  Speaker 4: using his legs so much, big frame, doesn't always slide.
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  Speaker 4: Concussions knocked him out ex But I mean, man, he's
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  Speaker 4: a DFS monster. Second highest team total or second highest
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  Speaker 4: total on this late Excuse.
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  Speaker 3: Me for him in a dome at home.
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  Speaker 4: I mean Texans will be driving, Colts will be driving
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  Speaker 4: plus three, Like everything lines up for Richardson. Look at
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  Speaker 4: the difference, like, yeah, pricing is we have a lot
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  Speaker 4: of pricing soft, so you can spend up elsewhere. But
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  Speaker 4: seventeen hundred difference between Josh and Allen and Richardson, I
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  Speaker 4: just think there's I'd rather use that seventeen hundred to
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  Speaker 4: upgrade another wide receiver or running back or something like that,
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  Speaker 4: going down a little more in his range, Like I
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  Speaker 4: prefer Richardson to Kyler way higher team total, little better
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  Speaker 4: game environments in a dome, going down a little bit
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  Speaker 4: like Jayden Daniels.
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  Speaker 3: I just the risk reward isn't enough.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's someone I'll be looking at tournaments the same thing,
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  Speaker 4: rushing upside. But this is his day, this is his
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  Speaker 4: first NFL game, Dogs isn't playing in a dome like
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  Speaker 4: all these guys. I'm not going to talk about too
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  Speaker 4: many because I know I'm playing Richardson, but he just
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  Speaker 4: seems like a slam dunk play on both sites. I
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  Speaker 4: think there is a little more options on FANDLE than DK,
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  Speaker 4: But sixty three hundred is too cheap for his four
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  Speaker 4: ceiling combo.
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  Speaker 2: So if you needed to save some you needed five
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  Speaker 2: hundred more dollars or four hundred more dollars, who would
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  Speaker 2: be the guy that would you would go to. Would
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  Speaker 2: it be Jaden Daniels or would be somebody else?
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  Speaker 3: It'd probably be Cale Williams.
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  Speaker 4: And again then at five to nine, that's four hundred
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  Speaker 4: if I needed a little more av Daniels. But I
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  Speaker 4: feel better with Cale Williams just he has more talent
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  Speaker 4: around him, all the hype coming with him. Daniels has
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  Speaker 4: a lot of rushing upside, but it's not the easiest matchup.
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  Speaker 4: And obviously the lost Dotson are not lost. They traded Dotson,
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  Speaker 4: so it's really just scary Terry. There's just guys like him.
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  Speaker 4: It's more of a wait and see cash games. You
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  Speaker 4: don't want to get it wrong in cash games. If
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  Speaker 4: I tried and find the two hundred to kill Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I totally get this point. Houston defense is
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  Speaker 2: going to be much better this year. They added Hunter
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  Speaker 2: and Anderson year two, Ryan's defense. Yeah, I get all that,
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  Speaker 2: but we're still playing a fantasy game, and in good
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  Speaker 2: fantasy quarterbacks can get there against good or improved defenses
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  Speaker 2: floor is just so high on a guy like Richardson.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if at his price.
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  Speaker 3: Plus plus one twenty to score, that means on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: As soon as soon as he finds an end zone
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  Speaker 2: on the ground. If he does, let's say he does
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  Speaker 2: your free roll in the rest of the way, whatever
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  Speaker 2: else he does, you're good to go because you're assuming
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  Speaker 2: you got seven, eight, nine Fantasy points. He's gonna throw
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  Speaker 2: from some yards like it's these running quarterbacks like man,
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  Speaker 2: once they get there on the ground, everything else is
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  Speaker 2: a bonus.
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  Speaker 3: So I get the defense argument.
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  Speaker 4: I hope people didn't forget, like just go back and
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  Speaker 4: wants the first couple of weeks of Richardson when he
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  Speaker 4: was healthy, before he was out for the year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean that dude was putting up numbers in the
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  Speaker 4: game he got hurt. He had like eighteen where it's
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  Speaker 4: like quarter.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to us that he was cruising so
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  Speaker 2: over on FanDuel. There's a big group of guys in
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  Speaker 2: this same price range. Richardson's a little more expensive at
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  Speaker 2: eighty three hundred sort by value here, which I do have,
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  Speaker 2: sort of by value, there's a big group you have
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  Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels seven K, Caleb Williams seventy one. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: playing bon nixt so he does rank well, but I
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  Speaker 2: would never consider him in cash games. You have Baker,
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  Speaker 2: you have Gino Tua. I mean, the Dolphins are projected
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  Speaker 2: to score a lot. He's seventy seven hundred. What are
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts over here on FanDuel where Richardson the gap
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  Speaker 2: is a little bigger between him and some of these
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  Speaker 2: other guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the GAP's a little smaller with Josh Allen
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  Speaker 4: and Richardson and Fandals usually has pot where I tend
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  Speaker 4: to pay up at quarterback. Usually it's a little softer
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  Speaker 4: some of those wide receiver pricing. But I think Josh
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  Speaker 4: Nell is definitely way more in play and Mike Lean
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  Speaker 4: right now as I'm playing Josh Allen or then I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to Richardson. If you need to save there is
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  Speaker 4: a big enough gap, like Caile Williams has seventy one hundred.
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  Speaker 3: If that's twelve hundred does go a long enough way.
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  Speaker 4: The thing is we're gonna get to some of these positions,
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  Speaker 4: like there's enough value that I don't think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: be going below Richardson. My plan right now is Alan Richardson.
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  Speaker 4: But again, if it was a different slate like see
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  Speaker 4: Act was on the slate, let's say, or something like that,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: then I would be totally fine playing kill Williams is
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: under price at seven to one, Daniels is under price
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: at seven k. Again, I feel a little more safe
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: would be the kill Williams route. Even Trevor Lawrence, I mean,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: talk about one of the highest tolls on the slate
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: as well. Three point underdogs should be slinging it. Got
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Dave Davis in town, got Brian Thomas in town.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I bought a lot of Jacksonville over the Jacksonville passing
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: game in basketball this year, But I still like Richardson's
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: rushing upside in such a good game environment at home
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: feels so good. And Josh Allen, I mean I used
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: to play that dude every single week regardless of the matchup,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: so we know.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: What he know you to the ground too, Yeah, yeah,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: so I think a little more open. I mean, you
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: got you got Josh Allen ninety two. If you have
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: the salary, which we're gonna get to the other positions,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you're probably gonna have a shit ton of salary on FanDuel,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: you got Watson or not watching, you have CJ. Stroud
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: and Richardson, you know, a little bit cheaper. I like
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Stroud as well, and then you can go down and
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you have a bunch of these guys seven K. I
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: don't even hate to us. I do agree to you.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little more wide open over here
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: on fan duel. You know, you can probably fill off
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: the rest of your spots and come back and you
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: build to grab one of these guys at quarterback. Just
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of different ways. And the one thing that
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier, but I'm not seeing them on here.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: What's the price on? I don't know why they're not here.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: You're talking Gibbs Montgomeryes of the World.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Williams, Well.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Well shoot, I already moved already.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where are the the players from that game. I
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: don't think they're listening there.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Let's see, we got golf is seventy five hundred.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And yeah, that's not bad. I mean golf is.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: The problem is, like I just seventy three and seventy
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: five right in that range as te Law and kill Williams.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I just think there's a little more rushing upside on
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: both of them and pocket passers on FanDuel. It's just
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I've kind of gone away from it just because that's
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: six points. When you do rush in a touchdown means
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: a ton. All those rushing yards add up a lot.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: But with that all being said, now them adding the
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: three hundred yard bonus on FanDuel again one hundred yard
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: bonus for receiving rushing does make those guys a little
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: more in play, But I don't think I'm going to
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: get there with the quarterbacks. Some other skill positions we
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: will talk about that. I've mainly receiver. I have some
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: more interest in that game though.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for some reason, those players aren't populating here in
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: that game. But we get that. Yeah, we'll get it fixed,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: and we can. We can definitely just still talk about
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: them on the show. All right, we'll stick on Fandel,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: We'll go to the running back position. Have it sorted
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: by just raw fantasy points right now, Jon Robinson eighty
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: eight hundred, ETM seventy five, James Cook seventy six, Alvin
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Kamara right and around is he seventy on one hundred.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: But they're all pretty darn close in terms of projected
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: fantasy points within one If you sort by value. Let's
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: see what we have. Taji Spears at fifty four hundred,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara seventy one, Kamara home favorites what they're favorite by,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: like four? I think against the Panthers, that definitely makes sense.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: James Cook, I think makes sense. You know. No, Stefan Diggs.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I have to imagine they run it a little more
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and he had a good, really strong finish to the season,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: But seems like a pretty wide open position and nothing
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: really standing out. I think if anything stands out to
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: me right now, would probably be Alvin Kamara seventy one hundred.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts here?
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would go with both the running backs in
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: that same game, Kamara and Chuba Hubbard. No, Jonathan Brooks,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be out the first four games for the
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Carolina so he was the rookie that they planned on.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Implementing as the starter.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Is probably going to be a running back by committee
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: with him not starting off. You have fifty six hundred
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Cuba as the starting running backs, So there's value right there,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: and kamaraw he's plus one hundred to score seventy one hundred,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: that's definitely value.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, we know good Kamara Is and.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Some of these other running backs RB Ones on this
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: like Jon's eighty eight hundred, Jonathan Taylor's eighty six, gibbs
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: A K. Kyrin Williams seventy eights, Rashad White seventy seven,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Like you're getting six hundred one, fourteen hundred discounts with
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: a very good running back, like you said in the
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Dome as a favorite, and even money to score touchdowns,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: so that screams a lot of value.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Those two would be my favorites. But again mainly more
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: on FanDuel.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I'm almost always playing three running backs in the flex
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: because of the half point PPR touchdowns meaning more and
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: after that, I do think there's plenty of ways you
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: can go. I mean some of the names. Yeah, let's
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: sort at by yeah is by value right there. I
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: don't think we need Taji because I prefer Cuba Tens
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: in play at seventy five Again, good game environment there.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I think James Cookson play more so I prefer him
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: if I would not play Josh Allen. Samir Whites is
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: most definitely in placed. Darn your running back sixty four hundred.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Stevenson is not someone I want to mess with. With
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Gibson this this year. I'm nervous early in the year
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Gibson might even overtake him. James Connor, I think in
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: play right there, Yeah, very cheap price tag, and then
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: like we can overspend on some positions just because if
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: you're playing Richardson, we'll get to some of these receivers.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Tight end usually isn't too much of a spend. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: wouldn't mind if you wanted to get up and play
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Racad White at seventy seven.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have him projected I think probably lower than
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the industry. But I'm definitely interested in Rashad White, and
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about him a little bit more when we
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: get over to DraftKings, since the price is cheaper and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: his game fits DK scoring a little bit better. But
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I'd be interested.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: In Walker to him and Kenneth Walker, I think would
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: be the guys right there.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, yep, yeah, yeah, so a lot of different ways. Ago.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I think Kamorrow is probably the one that it's the
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: most ownership in cash games. But after that, if you're playing,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you know, three running backs playing one in a flex,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty wide open and no one's really
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: going to break the bank for you unless you end
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: up playing like John Robinson. He's the only one that
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: really has a big boy pricing. But like you said,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: this late forces you to overspend a little bit. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: don't think it's necessarily the worst worst play, to be
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: honest with you. Over on DraftKings, pulling it up here,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: sorting by let's just sort by value. Right out of
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the gate, James Cook is showing up very nicely, sixty
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: nine hundred. Then you got Taji Spears, Zamir White, Kamara's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: sixty seven hundred come down a little bit more Kindeth Walker.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: We talked about Jon rob in Chubba Hubbards at fifty three.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Talk about White, Yeah, we have them projected probably a
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: little bit lower than the industry, but I think he's
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: definitely in the cash game. Can conversation on on DraftKings. So,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: how does the Draft Kings running back position differ from FanDuel.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: It's pretty similar, maybe even a little harder. Like the
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: sort of my value right there, I'll just go down
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: the list. James Cook most definitely in play. Taji's in
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: play for the price, but I still think I prefer Cuba,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: which is right in the same price and the reason
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I'm saying that is just less competition. There's Tony Pollard there,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to ride the hot hand more
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: times than not. So in cash games, I feel better
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: with the floor a higher floor with Tuba because of
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: his touch equity.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: But if Pollard's hand hand is as hot as it
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: was last year, it could end up being a lot
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: of Tazi spears.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not abandoning Pollard quite yet, though I
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: believe the town.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: But you're You're definitely right, just not something not an
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: unknown I.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Really want to do in cash I think with Tuba
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: right there as an RB one without competition, and Ford
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: you see Ford right there for a little more expensive
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: obviously no Nick Chubb in the beginning of the year.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I feel better with those two. Zin We're white good
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: price tag RB one.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I like it. Kamara, I like it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Etm I like it, Ray Ray Davis like again, I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: not playing a backup running back in cash games this week.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: You don't need it. Kenneth Walker, I like it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Joe Mixon, I don't know if I'm gonna have to
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: get all the way up, like looking at Kamara's price tag,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: looking at Kenneth Walker's price tag. I'm fine with Mixon.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I guess the nature of this though, is it's harder
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: on DK. But I will say we do have Rashad
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: White are projected a lot lower than the industry. He's
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: always a better DraftKings player than FanDuel because his receiving upside.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: He catches a lot off the backfield.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: But with that being said, I do not think this
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: is gonna be the same Rashon White's gonna get the
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: same volume as last year. They drafted a guy named
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Bucky Irving, very good, explosive. I think when he steps
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: on the field, he's gonna make plays. And Rashad White,
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it wasn't really efficient
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: last year when he did get yeah, all yeah, there
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: was no backup running back.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: They have one now that I think is actually good.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: So the more he gets on the field he actually
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: makes plays, I think the less Rashad White might even get.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying like he's gonna overtake Hims the starter,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: but we played White last year because he got ninety
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: percent of the work. I'm not quite certain that's gonna
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: be the case this year. Again, it is Week one
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: but yeah, that's again running backs. Running back's pretty tough.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Is there a any competition for Kenneth Walker Charbone?
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: But it's this feels like this feels like a real
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: good Kenneth Walker minus one to hide the score Home
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Denver nine. Yeah, I like I like me some kind
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: of Walkers Sharbonate is solid too, though.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty one, but I mean when Walker was healthy,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I mean he was the clear dude last year. You know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: there's not much competition, so yeah, I'm good with that
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: one too at sixty one. So yeah, there's definitely some
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: guys in play here. Running back position will flip over
• 27:21
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• 27:24
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• 27:31
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• 27:32
  Speaker 4: But last thing to note, I don't see myself really
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: spending up for the JT's the be Shones of this
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: World at either site in cash because the mid tier,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: like those Walkers White James Coach of the World I
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: look pretty similar and offered a good amount of savings
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: from them.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of cheap plays so far. A
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: lot of guys that we can save salary on. We're
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: gonna need some spends, and you know, the top spend
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: on the slate in terms of you know, projected ownership,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: projected Fantasy points and just where people are going to
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: go is most likely Tyreek Hill eighty seven hundred at home.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Dolphins are projected to score a lot of points. He
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: is an elite Fantasy wide receiver. The matchup is good
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: against Jacksonville. I'd imagine that he's probably a pretty popular
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: cash game play this week for for all the right reasons.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Do have other spends on the slate, have CD here,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: you have Jamar Chase, who it's not a lot to play.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm assuming he's in but
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: T Higgins.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: But Higgins went to he didn't practice today, Yeah, yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: and Chase.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I think Chase will play. Burrow said he's gonna play.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: And this Higgins stuff, I mean that could really put
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: a wrinkle on the slate exactly.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: So I mean Chase could end up getting a pretty
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: substantial boost. Like if Higgins is out, like you know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase would would move up quite a bit. So
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: that's something really the only there's not much injury news
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: that were waiting for on the slate and that could
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: kind of impact what we do. Got justin Jefferson up here.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: So those are the studs. You have the studs. This
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: is really the only position where kind of all the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: studs are on this on this main slate, or majority
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: of the studs. But if you do sort by value
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: our projections like McMillan for Tampa Bay, JSN for Seattle
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: at forty nine hundred, Shakir is Shakira the number one
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: in Buffalo? Is that really what's going on there? Coleman
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: and d Okay, I mean, they're all kind of the
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: same though, I mean, and well, I guess, yeah, King
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Kaid's probably the top opades Kans too, But yeah, good
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: price for DK Metcalf. He's popping up as a solid
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: value at sixty two. We have Josh Palmer fifty two.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: That situation kind of scares me a little bit. Christian
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Walker where they could be Christian Kirk, where they could
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: kind of be playing from behind fifty five hundred. Jalen Moddels,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: good price take on him at sixty three. Maybe if
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: you're not playing Tyreek, maybe you could look him up
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: at at sixty three, god Win fifty eight. A lot
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: of guys here, but you're probably spending on at least
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: one spot potentially too. I mean, this is the one
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: position where we do have the studs. So that's my
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: initial thoughts at the wide receiver here on DraftKings. What
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: are you thinking?
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, it looks like play Tyreek up top
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: eighty seven hundred in a great game environment is just
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: way too cheap. Like it's just a way better spot
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: than CD right now, going against a better Cleveland team.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: It's a game environment you want to target. I love
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: that man, Jefferson. You know, I'm playing some of GPPs,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: but it's like, how do you click Jefferson with Sam
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Darnold back there over Tyreek Hill to start the year
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: in a really, really really good spot.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: So it would be Jamar Chase.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't see this, So this is definitely something
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: worth no monitoring. Like if T Higgins was not really yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't either. So if T Higgins is out, if
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: that is something too to monitor, and I guess we're
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: gonna go. I'm gonna flip, I'm gonna bar ballots. If
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: T Higgins is out, it is Jamar Chase who's in
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: play but a punt andre Yoshi bass Min Price at
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: three K a lot of hype in preseason best ball.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: He overtook the three spot from Burton who whether rookie
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: was who was expected to make it out And this.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Kid was good.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I mean last year later in the year when there
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: was a they were rolling what was the dude's.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Name, Yeah, Chase Browning or something like that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yoshi was, he was good Princeton products.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: So if Higgins is out, Yoshi gets a big bump
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: for me at min Price all the way at three K,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I will say we don't necessarily need it because two
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: other guys that are down there at four k that
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: are pretty good.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Adonsay for Chicago.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Really good rookie out of Washington should have a good
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: connection with Kile Williams was balling in the preseason right away,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: way way too cheap. And then all the way up
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: we had JSN forty one hundred, another guy that's gonna
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: be very good or take a big step in his
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: second year.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he had a good rapport there. So yeah,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: those are the three values.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, another Price that just absolutely sticks out a
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: couple of them, Drake London six k. Now, if you've
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: lost a show, you've not master plenty of times.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: That dude's cost me so much cheese, so much.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: But man, he finally has a quarterback, Donkey Arthur Smith
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: is out and he's six k. Like Drake London's should
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: have a smash smash year in the Dome this year.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: So that price is way too cheap. Christian Kirk fifty
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: five hundred, way too cheap in the best game environments.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: And then Chris Godwin fifty eight hundred, too cheap. Another guy,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Elite Neighbors fifty nine hundred, again bad offense.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Talk about a.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Guy that's got all yeah, all the buzz through kids
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: haskay good as they like to say, way too cheap there,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: So I gave you all the ranges.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I think it's Tyreek up top. You have the money.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: And then the mid tiers lowed London Kirk Neighbors, they
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: should not be that cheap. I don't see my waddle
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: is a good price too. I don't see myself going
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: double stacking.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: And that thing.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And like, if for some reason you don't go to Tyreek,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: like I think Wattle is definitely more viable. But I
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: wouldn't play both of them in the same cashing life.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: But for some reason, if you have a bill you
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: like and it doesn't include Tyreek, which I think probably
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: is a mistake. I think you probably should just be
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: playing Tyreek and cash games, but for some reason you don't.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Wattle at sixty three definitely stands out to me as
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: a solid value.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's receivers miss price. There's plenty of
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: miss priced receivers this week, no doubt about that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: All right, let's check out fan Duel and I'm just
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: going to sort it by value because there's one, Yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: so one name that I definitely want to talk about.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Someone touched on it in the Yeah. Yeah, Like fifty
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: six hundred. That's just an insane price tag for Chris Goblin.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense. And I get his
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: game fits DraftKings scoring much better than it does on
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Fan will totally get that. We're talking fifty six hundred.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Like the cheap price for wide receiver is usually like
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: five k. Like, obviously you can have there's some guys
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: in the four K range, but five k's the floor.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Unplayable dudes. For the most part, Chris Godwin is a
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: legitimate wide receiver, fifty six hundred dollars insane price tag,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I probably would will be playing him this
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: week in terms of some spends. Kind of the same
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: story here. I want Tyreek over all these other dudes,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: and the gap is much smaller than over on DraftKings.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Tyreek is ninety six. CD, Lambs ninety three. I'll pass
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: on CD made us a lot of cheese last year,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: and there's gonna be spots that we're going to be
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: on CD in Dak But I think this is like
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: one of the worst spots ever for them on the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: road in Cleveland to start the season. Jamar Chase, we
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: have some uncertainty around him, their big favorites, uncertainty around
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson with Sam Darnold throwing the ball. So I
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: think you're just playing Tyreek here. We talked about all
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: the cheap running backs you can play. We talked about
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: cheap quarterbacks, so you can play. It's gonna be easy
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: to play Tyreek. I think the Tyreek and Chris Godwin
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: pairing at wide receiver is going to be very popular
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: for cash games. Probably just looking for one more spot.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Give me, give me some other potential names. Here wide
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: receiver on FanDuel.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you a couple more because I'm not.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I don't look at Tyreek as much of a lock
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: on FanDuel as I do DK, mainly for the reason
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: of the Sunday night football game. I'm in Ross, Saint Brown,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup, Hooka, Nakua. All those guys are cheaper and
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: good options in the highest total of slate at fifty two.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean Chris Godwin will be one of
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: my core plays on the site.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: You're watching this for free.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: We don't like to beat around the bush lie say
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: names that we're not playing.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Watch the show. You get a guy right there, he
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: will be there.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: But I don't see myself putt Tyreek because ninety six
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Pooka at eighty four, that's a solid price tag. I'm
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: gon Rost Saint Brown at eighty nine hundred, seven hundred
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Saint things that can go a long way.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Right there.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Again, going down a little bits, Cooper Cup. What was
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: this price tag? It was way too cheap seven K
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: for Cooper Cup. I mean yeah, there's been a lot
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: of back and forth as Cooper Cup washed all these
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: injuries getting up there in age. Pooka now taking it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be buying Cooper Cup at seven k. These
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: shows are wrong for sure. In fifty two total, right there,
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Michael Pittman sixty five hundred, and again you don't need
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: to stack by any means.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: In cash teams one hundred.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: People fifty to fifty take fiftieth, you get paid the
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: same as you take first place. But sixty five hundred
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: for wide receiver one in a dome in a high
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: total is way too cheap for Michael Pittman right there.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: So I'll be looking at him. Drake London again, better
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: price on DK than Fandle, but he's gonna be good.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Like he's someone I'm buying, Garrett Wilson, someone I'm buying
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: like these this spot at sixty seven hundred. Kirk Cousins
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: throwing the ball in the dome, I'm in on him.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Last name, I don't even really know if I needed
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: another name.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a lot of names I think we can be.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think you're going on.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: You're playing Godwin and then after that you're mainly spending
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: up like that mid tier Pittman feels like it should be.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: If it comes down to let's say it comes down
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to like Tyree kill and another punt slash value play
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: or getting two wide receivers and that didn't take the
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: two in the Detroit Rams game. I think that might
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: make sense too. And our guy Brandon's in here, just man,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: he's got takes for every single player, every single team.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Uh love, love the the activity in the Chapman. We
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Though some of the takes are bad, but
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you know, we still we still do appreciate it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Just I will say, Godwin's moving back to the slot
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: more this year like he was a couple of years back.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: So yeah, at fifty six, he doesn't need to find
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the en zone. That's the whole point. Like at fifty six.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: In cash games, if he goes out there and gets
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: eight catches for seventy yards, you take it. You move
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: on and they give him some end around stuff and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: whatnot as well. So I mean, at the.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: End of the day, if a guy's eighty percent like
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: he gets you one, you're not dead in cast games.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: That in tournaments, that's why you played differently. And last
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: thing on this they already said it's gonna be Russell
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Wilson's starting, So you don't gotta you don't kind a
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: plan for that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, which sucks for the Steelers fans because Russell Wilson
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: absolutely sucks at playing quarterback in the NFL. But that'll
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: be for some other shows. All Right, we'll go to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: tight end on on fan duel. I'm gonna sort it
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: by just projected fantasy points.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: You got Laporte up there as prime Kelsey oh.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, so Laporto. Again, we don't have the Detroit
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: M's game Detroit Los Angeles game in here. We are
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: working to get it added. But laport is what ak right? Ak?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the big boy price tag on the Porta.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was phenomenal last season, but a K
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: does seem a little bit much, and it probably good
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: for GPPs because people will look to just save some money.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: But in GPPs, eight k for Laporta I think is
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: very interesting. Kin Kid, I like a lot at sixty
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: eight hundred. If you have the said you have to imagine,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I mean you look at the wide receivers. Who are
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the you mentioned the wide receivers for the Bills? Can
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: you write off those names? Again?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: It's shakir Kean Coleman, and I.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Don't know about Jay's Claypool for that one guy. But
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: this is going to be a lot of too tight
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: a Dawston.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Knocks, Yes, King Kid's the best.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel too.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: That's the other one, Curtsey so kin Ki's their best receiver.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Are you guys doing a video for tonight's single game?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: We are, and we're recording it right after this myself
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: title Tambo. I think it's gonna be two fifteen Eastern
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: start time. Give us a little break in between them.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: We'll fire it up. Man. My favorite show is to do,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, the showdown shows we're doing
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: all season long. For every single showdown you know Island game.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Myself titled Tamba. It's a good time. Come check it
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: out right after this same channel, So that's two fifteen
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Eastern time. Kinkaid I like, I mean, if I if
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I have the money to play Kincaid at sixty eight,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: that's probably the route I would personally look to go.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: You got McBride, they're probably trailing in that same game. Ferguson,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I don't love all that much. I think Pitts is
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: a fine option. Obviously gets the quarterback upgrade. Ingram I
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: believe it's solid. I think, yeah, I'm probably gonna be
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: in the six K range, most likely in cash. What
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts here?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I agree kin Kid's fine.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: The four hundred savings probably looks good with trade McBride though,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: and I'm just a big trade McBride guy should be
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: a good game script throwing it.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I want to think it sucks for is Kyler Murray's
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: toss from the football and Murray's yeah, shitty freaking quarterback.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but just say they're down fourteen or twenty one.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: If you think he's that bad that they gotta.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Throw the ball. Yeah, I just six ' four.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the it should be way closer Laporta KKs
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: McBride the pricing than twelve hundred and sixteen. But if
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: you have the money KK, especially if you're playing Allen,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I'll give a little boost there.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: McBride for four hundred though, fine, fine saving that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Nevin Ingram, I mean, great spot for Evan Ingram, Like,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: that's just one of the best games you want to
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: target on the slates.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: So they met six to two.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't want to go below if you needed
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: to the Djoku three hundred, but to be honest, I
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: think i'd want to prioritize ev An Ingram McBride or
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: KK just Is.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Fran Millionaire asked about Bauers, like I just don't think
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you need any more savings, Like you're gonna have the
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: money to get a legitimate tight end without question marks.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's Bowers could have a great year, no
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: doubt about it, could do well week one, but there's
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: some risks there.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: And like on a slate that we're talking where we
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: have a lot of value. We know Evan Maker's wide
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: receiver tight end one, but very very part of that
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: offense McBride wide receiver one serve too. Whatever heart Harrison's there,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: kin Kate the number one guy hours in a bad offense.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: There's just more unknown, so there's more risks, Like he's
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: very highly talented, but it's not the week I want.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: To embrace risk and cash games when you don't need to.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: With the sailor perfect perfect GP people.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Yep over on DraftKings, you can always make the case
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: go cheap at tight end. The pricing floor for tight
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: ends is pretty low. I mean sometimes we can find
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: guys in the upper two k range, lower threes. I
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: have it sorted here by value based on our projections.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts is showing up as the top option. Twelve
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars break between Pitts and Kinkaid. Kinkaid's fifty eight,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: who we both kind of like, but twelve hundred dollars
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: could potentially go a long way, could get you that
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: second stud wide receiver in your lineup. So Pitts at
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: forty six, I think is appealing. We have Josh Oliver.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean makes sense at forty six, I
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: mean six.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: In the dome, but doesn't like I know, people a
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: little rumor with the hamstring or something. But assuming it
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: all goes and like the projections mean a lot, Like
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: look at the value two point six, The next is
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: two point three six.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, forty six hundred is way too cheap.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: So it's a good spot, good spot to go. I mean,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you're not breaking the bank. Forty six hundred. A guy
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: that has upside got the quarterback upgrade in the dome.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I think a lot makes sense there, and you know
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: the price makes so it's forty six hundred is a
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: good one. We don't talk a ton of defense here,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: just go through and see what stands out. I imagine
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: you probably have some some money. Again, I haven't built
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: out teams or whatnot for cash games. I imagine probably
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: have some money. But man, usually at defense, it's like
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: give me whatever I can can get and let's get
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: the hell out of here. Anything standing out defensively here
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Not on DK on FanDuel, the Falcons at thirty six
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: hundred look pretty appealing against your favorite Russell Wilson.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good spot, but I mean just too cheap, like
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: six hundred.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it shows up as our best value play thirty
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: six hundred at home against Russell.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: But again, with all that being said, if I need
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: to upgrade somewhere and I need to get off Falcons defense,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: I will get OFFUL because it's such a high Areian sport.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: But DraftKings, nothing stood out. That'll be my last position
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I fill out for sure, Van Duel, if you can
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: make Falcons work, it feels a little nice, but yeah,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: that's defense.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The variance at the defense position is through the roof.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Were rarely looking to pay top salary, trying to get
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: out of there as cheap as possible. In most cases.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: In some weeks we have the flexibility where we can
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe spend a little bit more, but for
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: the most part, you're trying to get out of the
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: position as cheap as possible. Thirty six hundred falcons, a
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: lot of people will be going there. Yeah, so that's
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: going to kind of do it. This format is the
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: format we're going to roll with all season long for
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the most part. And like I said, this is to
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: just kind of develop the player pool, get some initial thoughts,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: and then obviously you come out over to ship at
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: nation dot com, where we're going to lock in four
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: cores on DraftKings, four cores on FanDuel to get you
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: started with the teams. Those are plays that you should
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: be starting your teams with, and then kind of, you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: fill in the rest. But you know, weak ones always
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: a little different, just because the pricing is always softer.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: The pricing came out very early, so some of these
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: situations weren't as certain when the pricing came out. So
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: we do have some standout values. But there's always donkeys
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: out there looking in the cash streets, as title will
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: tell you, so there's opportunity. It takes work. It's not
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: as fun, it's not as sexy to play cash games,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and you know, head to heads and fifty to fifties
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: where you're doubling your money and you don't have the
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: chance for the big million, but if you grind it
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: hard all NFL season, you can certainly certainly have an edge.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think this is the right starting
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: point for the cash game conversation because again, titles in
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: the streets not only for NFL, but every single sport
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: essentially grinding, grinding, grinding, and you know, other sites and
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: other shows they're just talking about the cash plays. They're
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: not actually about them. Here, we're about them. So title.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Any final thoughts before we get on out here.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I've been cashians pretty much my whole Is
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: it the most sexy? Are you going to get the
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: screenshots as much? Know how I approach it in my
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: head as I hate losing money. If you play GPPs,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: you have to expect to lose almost every single day,
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: that is the expectation. It's a lot more fun in
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: my opinion, doubling up your money or one point seven
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: your money than losing eighty percent of your buying.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: So that's how I look at it. There's a lot
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: of fish out there, for sure.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: We will again, Fan duel and get sorted out with
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: the Sunday night game Lions Rams. All that will be
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: in the Shipdemiser. That'll be good to go. Do not
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: forget about that. That is a very important piece. Hopefully
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: some of the casuals out there do no better. Time
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: fifty two total. Mainly those wide receivers are who I'm
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: looking at. But yeah, I mean, just have fun with it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: And like I saw a couple of people in Discord
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: where like they watched the education video with you at
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Tambeau and you help them transition more their bankroll too.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Cash games you can go seventy to thirty, no, fifty
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: to fifty, whatever it may be. It can help your
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: losses sometimes. And you should play cash games different than tournaments.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: So Chalk tyreek Hill goes out, how could I ever,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Donkey Chalk, how could I ever play them in tournaments? Well,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: at least you got them in cash games and some
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: of your bank roll there, so I'll be in the
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: GPP streets all that, of course, But you play it differently,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: helps diversify your portfolio.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: We're talking. I'm excited to talk some cash with you.
• 47:55
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• 47:55
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• 48:43
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• 48:50
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